0:00:00 Music
0:00:50 Music
0:00:57 but as for those from among them who are
0:00:59 deeply rooted in knowledge the believers
0:01:02 who are who believe in that which has
0:01:03 been bestowed upon thee from on high as
0:01:06 well as that which was disper disposed
0:01:09 bestowed up from on high before thee and
0:01:11 those who are especially constant in
0:01:13 black prayer and spend in charity and
0:01:15 all who believe in god in the last day
0:01:18 these it is unto whom we shall grant a
0:01:20 mighty reward next translation as for
0:01:23 those among them who are deeply rooted
0:01:25 in knowledge and the believers who
0:01:26 believe in what has been revealed to you
0:01:28 and in what was revealed before you and
0:01:31 those who are especially constant in
0:01:33 prayer and give the purifying arms and
0:01:35 all who believe in god in the last day
0:01:37 to them we will give a great reward yeah
0:01:40 that's nothing to commit except that
0:01:42 that the stressful though is especially
0:01:44 a constant in prayer because in arabic
0:01:47 uh some people some idiots obviously
0:01:52 orientalism and some some arab
0:01:54 christians and claimed that because
0:01:56 all all of that is is
0:01:59 like it is like uh accusative in in
0:02:03 german
0:02:05 and latin
0:02:06 which is like the one who acts
0:02:08 like for example those who fame and
0:02:10 knowledge or the
0:02:12 the what they call the denominative in
0:02:15 in english all of them are negative the
0:02:16 one from knowledge those who believe in
0:02:18 that what you bestowed upon you from
0:02:20 upon high and really restored previously
0:02:22 or previously
0:02:24 and then it says
0:02:26 that's not that's in the uh that's not
0:02:28 in the nominative this is the accusative
0:02:30 as if it is uh it is out of line
0:02:33 grammatically you know it's not out of
0:02:34 line because it is there is a hidden
0:02:37 verb saying i specially mentioned
0:02:41 i especially mentioned so you can change
0:02:43 the the
0:02:44 uh what they call it is that called
0:02:46 conjugation let's call it the
0:02:47 declination
0:02:49 you change the declination by by having
0:02:52 an uh a hidden verb which means
0:02:54 specifically i mentioned those are
0:02:56 constant in prayer and then it continues
0:02:58 and those who
0:03:00 give the charity and those who believe
0:03:01 analyzer so in that case those
0:03:03 constantly prayer are given the special
0:03:05 mention by changing that uh what their
0:03:08 qualities that's called
0:03:09 conjugation or declaring i think it's
0:03:11 declination
0:03:15 yeah it's a declination from from from
0:03:17 uh
0:03:18 from nominative to accusative
0:03:20 in english this is not possible except
0:03:22 by use especially
0:03:24 in german you could do that because in
0:03:25 german you have a difference
0:03:28 you could do that and you could reveal
0:03:30 the verb hidden and then people will and
0:03:32 most likely they have to be instructed
0:03:33 about that because this is not common in
0:03:35 german language that by that by changing
0:03:37 the declination you have certain but i
0:03:39 think some literally specialists in
0:03:41 german they do that sometimes using the
0:03:44 facility which are given by the german
0:03:45 language
0:03:47 although
0:03:48 because they do
0:03:49 establish there will be d
0:03:51 and d is both
0:03:53 negative so you have to use the word
0:03:54 special again but then arabic is clear
0:03:57 by instead of instead of saying well
0:04:00 he said
0:04:02 and they said the wow it is they are so
0:04:04 it is the one acted upon me i especially
0:04:07 mentioned
0:04:09 that just as a small
0:04:11 linguistic for the translation is not
0:04:13 very much relevant but and interestingly
0:04:15 also some some
0:04:17 i don't think or interested that maybe
0:04:18 there is some idiots in in egypt and so
0:04:21 on bring me through the they say oh
0:04:23 there's this there's wrong in the quran
0:04:26 you cannot be more idiotic than that
0:04:28 because
0:04:30 such obvious or wrong grammar
0:04:32 as they claim would not have been passed
0:04:35 even even if muhammad is the verdict of
0:04:36 the quran it will not be so stupid to
0:04:38 make such a wrong
0:04:40 stock
0:04:41 such kind of arguments like that we
0:04:43 reveal that thicker is not a majestic we
0:04:46 sometimes things are brought forward
0:04:48 which shows that the one who is bringing
0:04:49 forward is
0:04:50 has
0:04:51 has disgraced himself actually by such
0:04:53 an argument you have to get something
0:04:55 much better than that
0:04:57 to be respected really
0:05:00 and there are many good things they can
0:05:01 bring and situation which force you to
0:05:03 think deep and they try to synchronize
0:05:05 various eyes and go deeper into
0:05:07 philosophical aspects
0:05:09 but not in this way not divinity and
0:05:11 such trivial things
0:05:14 but
0:05:15 but
0:05:16 both everywhere in every nation and
0:05:18 every uh religion there will be donkeys
0:05:21 around so nothing can be done about that
0:05:22 we
0:05:49 ibrahim abraham and ismail
0:05:52 and isaac and jacob and their
0:05:54 descendants including jesus and job and
0:05:56 jonah and arun
0:05:58 and solomon and as we vouched on unto
0:06:02 david a book of divine wisdom next
0:06:04 translation we have sent a revelation to
0:06:06 you prophet just as we inspired noah and
0:06:09 all the prophets after him as we
0:06:11 inspired abraham and ismail and isaac
0:06:14 and jacob and their descendants
0:06:16 including jesus and job and jonah and
0:06:18 arun and solomon and to david we gave
0:06:21 the psalms
0:06:22 yeah so a few minutes are mentioned here
0:06:26 and um
0:06:28 the the the obvious you know i know and
0:06:30 the prophets after him in general and
0:06:32 then specifically ibrahim is mentioned
0:06:34 this is because the address here is to
0:06:36 the people of the book but generally
0:06:37 because this is the main line of
0:06:39 prophethood in the recent let's say 4
0:06:42 000 years before that we don't know and
0:06:44 maybe others maybe there's another
0:06:46 prophecy another line for example in in
0:06:48 in the native americans because
0:06:50 of the rest of the world maybe we don't
0:06:52 know maybe another line in china maybe
0:06:54 another line in india that's very well
0:06:56 possible there are very many good
0:06:58 reasons to believe that that buddha may
0:07:00 have been one of these what we don't
0:07:02 know because whatever narrative is the
0:07:03 remaining is legendary it's not reliable
0:07:06 you can't rely on it as such
0:07:10 so ibrahimovic
0:07:14 um of the book do not deny that
0:07:17 generally but from the other ones that
0:07:19 are controversial for example the first
0:07:21 one ahead of this because the jews deny
0:07:23 he said
0:07:28 foreign and are you you hope there's a
0:07:32 question mark in there in the old
0:07:33 testament if uh
0:07:36 or are you always a prophet he's a man
0:07:38 who has been severely tested but it
0:07:39 seems to be they don't classroom i don't
0:07:42 think he neglects that classify him as a
0:07:44 prophet
0:07:45 actually here what it says that let me
0:07:47 be more precise
0:07:48 and that
0:07:50 unless we understand all the one coming
0:07:52 afternoon and
0:07:54 and all of these are inspired prophets
0:07:56 but generally inspiration is not
0:07:57 necessary only for prophets some other
0:07:58 people may be inspired whether in
0:08:00 prophet meaning they will get revelation
0:08:03 has no sharia in junctions in them
0:08:04 whatsoever neither unusually or nor
0:08:06 approved obvious area but this is a
0:08:08 complex area i don't want to go actually
0:08:10 it's a good comment relating to because
0:08:12 this one of the points which many people
0:08:14 uh get stuck with with their ether
0:08:16 coming back at the end of time which we
0:08:17 discussed last time
0:08:19 is that they say
0:08:20 uh there's no prophet after holly
0:08:22 and there is a prophet but he doesn't
0:08:24 come with an active prophethood because
0:08:26 his prophethood is according to the
0:08:27 quran which is the most eloquent
0:08:29 expression what has muhammad is is the
0:08:31 seed of god prophets see meaning he's
0:08:33 the final one but also he sees the
0:08:35 previous prophets and they they are they
0:08:37 are like
0:08:39 close down
0:08:40 their prophethood is closed out so if
0:08:42 they come they come with the activated
0:08:44 prophet i give i give i would like to
0:08:46 give an
0:08:47 uh
0:08:48 a material example let's say a mosque is
0:08:50 closed down because
0:08:52 the minorities is becoming unstable and
0:08:54 it's the fear that it may fall in the
0:08:56 mosque and kill the people so it's close
0:08:58 down for that until it's repaid it is
0:09:00 still a must quite close down but you
0:09:02 cannot pray there it is functionality
0:09:04 suspended but you don't say it is not a
0:09:06 muslim but you're still there is waiting
0:09:08 for repair
0:09:09 still there tomorrow and the day after
0:09:10 tomorrow maybe a year until the
0:09:12 necessary funds are there for their
0:09:14 parents on that similarly
0:09:16 so that's that's
0:09:18 that's one point about this but another
0:09:20 point is that they think that everything
0:09:22 is called revelation is necessary
0:09:23 prophet would know
0:09:25 and i i given in some study rebutting
0:09:27 this point of view
0:09:29 we discussed it last time remember we
0:09:31 say about this very curious ayah and the
0:09:33 various interpretation about it but that
0:09:36 nobody of the people book will die until
0:09:38 he uh
0:09:40 believes in isa and what's the meaning
0:09:41 of that etc
0:09:43 that for example the quran speaks
0:09:45 clearly about revelation to the mother
0:09:46 of musa and clearly about revelation and
0:09:49 even the angels talking to maryam
0:09:51 and bringing him good news from allah is
0:09:54 is
0:09:55 can we say anyone who is a prophetess i
0:09:58 mean he hasn't said is the prophet is
0:09:59 because of that because he equated i
0:10:00 think a revelation or the angels
0:10:02 addressing someone as being your prophet
0:10:04 but
0:10:05 there are evidence in the quran who
0:10:06 shows it's impossible that they are
0:10:08 prophets
0:10:09 not that because they are female some
0:10:10 people say no no they're not female
0:10:11 prophets no that's that's not a correct
0:10:13 argument
0:10:15 the argument is another place
0:10:17 for especially for maryam and therefore
0:10:18 surely for the mother of musa et cetera
0:10:21 so
0:10:22 that they said say
0:10:24 but the the context here
0:10:27 indicates strongly that all of these are
0:10:28 really prophets
0:10:30 because
0:10:33 in this context indicates strongly that
0:10:35 only they're not just inspired like we
0:10:38 inspire you without being prophets or
0:10:40 people who ascertain
0:10:44 approved or something like that no
0:10:46 so are you i said in the people i'm not
0:10:48 sure if they regard him they got him as
0:10:50 a great man and so on uh
0:10:53 the little argument that he is an enemy
0:10:55 center
0:10:56 but harun
0:10:58 harun is
0:11:04 but they attribute to him making the
0:11:05 golden cup
0:11:07 she's catastrophic actually
0:11:11 maybe the reason hero is mentioned after
0:11:13 because they say suleiman is not a
0:11:15 prophet he was a king and he is actually
0:11:16 a muslim
0:11:18 and the magician you remember with this
0:11:19 catherine baqara
0:11:21 and also the word is controversial the
0:11:22 jew is a great king and so on but they
0:11:24 don't seem to be put him under the
0:11:25 prophets not a clear way but a christian
0:11:28 seems to be in the scripture and in the
0:11:30 early story regarding
0:11:32 the the word as a prophet
0:11:34 so
0:11:35 but but the context is clearly saying
0:11:38 these are definitely prophets
0:11:40 without any doubt yeah
0:11:43 or with little doubt which other places
0:11:45 clarify definitely in the quran
0:11:48 who i mention all of these alone or in
0:11:50 this context because we are listening to
0:11:52 people of the book and
0:11:54 there are certain reasons in the surah
0:11:56 most likely uh enforcing that one of
0:11:58 those or others be mentioned and that
0:12:01 order is not necessarily historic order
0:12:03 in the case
0:12:06 of historical order because
0:12:07 this made this first son
0:12:10 they don't deny that but they call him
0:12:12 the son of a slave so it doesn't it's
0:12:13 not worthy like his help according
0:12:15 because hacker the son of a free woman
0:12:17 according to their misconception
0:12:19 and whatever they think is irrelevant in
0:12:22 order and even other in ordinary virtues
0:12:24 my aide is ahead of his house
0:12:27 definitely
0:12:28 and there is no mention of the poor is
0:12:30 completely in the quran the second son
0:12:32 of
0:12:33 his heart etc
0:12:34 and the last part this is the
0:12:36 descendants
0:12:37 some people think they say that the
0:12:39 meaning of a spot meaning the children
0:12:41 we are called directly i am doubtful of
0:12:43 that there is no indication i don't know
0:12:44 all testament or that the children of
0:12:46 yahoo are really prophets actually the
0:12:48 behavior of yousef when we come to saul
0:12:50 whole abusive god does not indicate that
0:12:53 they have anything to do with prophecy
0:12:54 or if receiving revelation or something
0:12:56 like that is unlikely but as part of me
0:12:59 the descendants could be the
0:13:00 grandchildren and great-grandchildren
0:13:02 possibly the prophets who were in the
0:13:03 time of judges
0:13:05 by the time when islam was managed by
0:13:07 prophets until they require ask for
0:13:09 kingdom which we discuss in total just
0:13:11 casually and then which led to their
0:13:14 their demise and decline and destruction
0:13:16 of that
0:13:17 the establishment of the kingdom yes the
0:13:19 few few decades were high time
0:13:23 but
0:13:23 even that was not a good old high time
0:13:26 because there was conflict between
0:13:28 saul and
0:13:29 and
0:13:30 david that would for a long time then
0:13:34 david prevailed and then slammed him
0:13:36 after but this is descendant of tarut
0:13:38 insisted that they are out of the
0:13:40 kingdom and the spirit of the north
0:13:41 kingdom and the whole the whole nation
0:13:44 that justice integrated within time and
0:13:46 got destroyed because of that so
0:13:48 haridathi monarchy is a catastrophe but
0:13:50 they requested it and they demanded it
0:13:52 and they got it after the warning of the
0:13:54 prophets to them that this will be their
0:13:56 own demise of destruction that their
0:13:58 prayer will not be answered against
0:14:00 oppressive kings they insisted and they
0:14:02 got it and they got the destruction
0:14:04 through that but anyway we're not
0:14:05 discussing now israeli monarchy and
0:14:07 democracy
0:14:08 but
0:14:09 so maybe
0:14:10 and then the order of that is because
0:14:12 maybe the order of virtue
0:14:14 is ahead just to annoy the jews possibly
0:14:17 that the one you are denying is is in
0:14:19 virtue as high as any one of the afraid
0:14:21 be even higher and no muslim without
0:14:24 doubt that anything is superior to the
0:14:25 one after him without any exception
0:14:28 to a youth to newness to her own to
0:14:30 surrey man and possibly even
0:14:33 the general muslim point of view that is
0:14:34 even superior to what you have in his
0:14:36 heart and islam but maybe not to imply
0:14:39 because the other civility is usually
0:14:41 usually
0:14:42 deduced from very evidences is noah
0:14:45 i mean these five so called five
0:14:47 prophets muhammad ibrahim
0:14:52 without really
0:14:54 much argument who is more superior more
0:14:56 is more inferior they are very sahajit
0:14:58 and various aspects and the professor
0:14:59 advised not to not to make the
0:15:03 ranking of the prophets
0:15:05 because it will just invite
0:15:07 backlash and hostility
0:15:09 and
0:15:10 he gave example for example by himself
0:15:12 and ibrahimovic and musa
0:15:14 so that's that should be avoided but
0:15:17 usually most scholars say this that's
0:15:19 called five
0:15:21 prophets of firm will that's no ibrahim
0:15:24 that's in historical ibrahim
0:15:26 musa
0:15:27 israel muhammad the other top five oh i
0:15:30 i could care alice honestly i could care
0:15:33 that this
0:15:34 but in this last part of this definitely
0:15:36 is superior to these and
0:15:38 significantly higher development
0:15:42 so that's
0:15:43 so we have
0:15:45 our revelation to you muhammad is like
0:15:47 what we have revealed to this and also
0:15:49 obviously mentioning here in this
0:15:51 context specifically
0:15:52 and this ranking specifically is to
0:15:54 undermine the claim of the jews that is
0:15:56 imposter or we have a questionable
0:15:59 uh
0:16:00 genealogy or something like that that's
0:16:02 number one
0:16:03 and also undermine the christian claim
0:16:05 that he's a divine being he's just
0:16:07 human beings have been a simulation like
0:16:09 all other professional
0:16:11 and this
0:16:12 is nothing especially that he has
0:16:13 uniqueness another aspect but nothing
0:16:15 which make him divine or anything like
0:16:17 that
0:16:18 another quran
0:16:26 Music
0:16:43 and as we have inspired other apostles
0:16:45 whom we have mentioned to thee are this
0:16:48 as well as apostles as well as apostles
0:16:50 whom we have not mentioned to zee
0:16:53 and as god spoke his words unto moses
0:16:56 next translation
0:16:57 and uh and other messengers that we've
0:16:59 already mentioned to you as well as
0:17:01 messengers that we have not mentioned to
0:17:03 you and god spoke directly to moses yeah
0:17:06 as directly is important with
0:17:08 musa
0:17:09 and this seems to be a speciality for
0:17:10 moses maybe other prophets have been
0:17:12 directly addressed in in rare occasions
0:17:15 or relocated violence them in may
0:17:17 but not really on earth as usual so this
0:17:20 speciality of musa this reason he's not
0:17:22 mentioned the previous list his mission
0:17:24 now after that uh after this he had a
0:17:27 special
0:17:28 standing because he essentially having a
0:17:31 attribute of being killing allah the one
0:17:33 directly addressed or speaks spoken to
0:17:36 directly by allah so but there are other
0:17:39 other messages which we reported to you
0:17:41 before that there are another they will
0:17:43 come
0:17:44 and others who did not report to you
0:17:48 that's it
0:17:49 so if someone came uh
0:17:51 we don't have a chinese prophet or
0:17:52 message
0:17:53 how do you know
0:17:54 quran did not report about them yes
0:17:56 reported about the main line for the
0:17:58 central place of the earth about
0:18:00 civilization
0:18:02 that that's
0:18:03 the holy land arabia and so on and
0:18:05 around that's the central most prophet
0:18:08 in the last four thousand years
0:18:10 yes indeed but there are there have been
0:18:12 other prophets in africa others in india
0:18:15 others in china and
0:18:17 possibly others in in in
0:18:19 in
0:18:20 native americans and so on uh that
0:18:24 should be not surprising to anybody and
0:18:26 should it be uh doubted or questioned
0:18:29 uh but the possible candidates are
0:18:32 shrouded in mystery because their
0:18:33 history has not been recorded properly
0:18:35 and many things attributed to them which
0:18:36 we know from the example is not true for
0:18:39 example so it can be it's completely
0:18:41 just publication and their history has
0:18:44 become really legendary
0:18:45 but a part of part of it may be even
0:18:48 purely mythical
0:18:50 you know difference between legendary
0:18:51 legendary is something historical but
0:18:53 has been blown out of proportion to
0:18:55 become like he looks looking like a myth
0:18:57 but the chord is not a myth
0:18:59 myth is completely fabricated does not
0:19:02 exist whatsoever yeah
0:19:05 so
0:19:05 so the story is about about like people
0:19:07 like buddha and so on
0:19:10 could be it could be very well uh could
0:19:13 be very well uh
0:19:16 legendary of a prophet which
0:19:18 is
0:19:19 his his message has not been kept the
0:19:21 same with the with the with the with
0:19:25 uh the prophet of the uh
0:19:27 the one day the the jewish the persian
0:19:30 claim is the prophet what's his name
0:19:33 could be a prophet we don't know
0:19:35 what's it which was
0:19:37 does not does not persuade very much but
0:19:39 we know how how much how much mess has
0:19:42 been with these books even the old
0:19:44 testament is let me just mention quickly
0:19:46 with the old testament how to deal with
0:19:48 it matter of historically
0:19:52 fact number one it is it is
0:19:54 in the form we have which has become
0:19:56 like canonical from that three century
0:19:58 broad christ or something like that
0:19:59 collected by the scholars because we
0:20:01 have the uh the the la that the greek
0:20:04 translation it's called the septuagint
0:20:08 which is definitely it's proven with
0:20:09 certitude that it is at least two
0:20:11 centuries before christ
0:20:13 two and a half some people claim it is
0:20:14 from them alexander the macedonian
0:20:16 that's like a jewish claim
0:20:18 it may be true maybe not so three
0:20:20 centuries but
0:20:21 two to two centuries to uh 200 bc 250 bc
0:20:25 is almost certain
0:20:26 and many other corroborating evidences
0:20:30 so that that's
0:20:31 then we have the so-called mesolithic
0:20:32 version which has been uh
0:20:34 offered to the world after a long
0:20:36 process of recording and comparing
0:20:38 manuscripts and so on actually the most
0:20:40 ethic test text which is regarded now by
0:20:43 even by jews and christians as the more
0:20:44 more authentic and reliable than the
0:20:46 scriptures
0:20:47 in that form is available only the 10th
0:20:49 10th century just recently 1 000 years
0:20:52 ago
0:20:53 because the jews
0:20:54 they decided the the so many
0:20:57 scripts and so on delivered over
0:20:59 generations and they started a project
0:21:02 in the time of view uh uh my money this
0:21:05 user ben maymoon uh to to uh to
0:21:08 have like like uh like a master copy or
0:21:11 an or a canonical reference because
0:21:14 there's so many narratives and they
0:21:16 compared qualcomm various narratives
0:21:18 compared various things and and um they
0:21:20 have dismissed politic texts the
0:21:22 atmospheric test is essentially
0:21:25 recall
0:21:26 things copied from
0:21:28 even from 200 to 200 300 years before bc
0:21:32 but only that version which has been
0:21:33 available since origin and it almost
0:21:36 fits hundred percent with symptoms there
0:21:37 are variations
0:21:40 in some places consider a variation when
0:21:42 you show that at the time of the
0:21:43 septuagint though the books will have
0:21:45 not become stable yet
0:21:47 but it is it's probably really recorded
0:21:49 and then and transcribed by comparison
0:21:52 at the book of ashaya
0:21:54 with the complete copy found in the dead
0:21:56 sea scrolls there's a complete copy
0:21:58 found
0:21:59 and the fraction rather that complete
0:22:01 copy compares with the septuagint almost
0:22:03 to the letter with small variations
0:22:05 which essentially scriptural errors or
0:22:07 something like that possibly
0:22:09 which means that the scandal
0:22:11 transcription process
0:22:13 at least since the time for christ
0:22:14 hundred years before christ until
0:22:16 the year thousand
0:22:18 that's 11 centuries has been meticulous
0:22:21 so that's that should not be doubt
0:22:22 that's finished that's over that's
0:22:24 that's the fact that's the scientific
0:22:25 fact
0:22:26 but that these books in this form
0:22:29 septuagint and this essentially were
0:22:32 laid by the scholars after the babylonic
0:22:35 exile of the side they took one or two
0:22:37 centuries comparing notes collecting
0:22:39 books and so on and then allegedly they
0:22:41 have a conference and they reached that
0:22:43 maybe there's no conference or their
0:22:44 scholars met and adopted this fine okay
0:22:49 that
0:22:50 is
0:22:50 obviously copies from ancient scriptures
0:22:55 putting books together possibly
0:22:57 re-editing things
0:22:58 recombining things but even before the
0:23:01 biblionics side there's no compelling
0:23:03 evidence that did not have been
0:23:07 uh uh re-editing or recombination or
0:23:09 something like that and that there also
0:23:11 before the bible unique excited some
0:23:13 books are lost for forever and before
0:23:16 the villains have some major books
0:23:18 have been abridged and
0:23:20 like for example boy in the book of
0:23:21 kings of judah the book of cancer
0:23:23 there's a complete book there with all
0:23:24 details but only a summary is the book
0:23:27 of kings
0:23:28 the kings one and kings two kings one
0:23:30 buddha kings to israel
0:23:31 is only a summary and they say the
0:23:33 infinity and more details of this king
0:23:35 you find in the book of the kings of
0:23:37 israel so there was books it's not it's
0:23:39 not in our hands extent
0:23:41 and so on that's one secondly clearly
0:23:44 even in the first five books which they
0:23:47 call torah teaching
0:23:49 we have
0:23:50 we have the
0:23:52 the uh
0:23:54 we we have
0:23:56 let's start with the last two one that's
0:23:58 the that's the uh
0:24:00 the book of revised leviticus and the
0:24:02 the the deuteronomy these are
0:24:04 essentially law books more or less law
0:24:06 books
0:24:07 regulating morality the the issues of
0:24:10 priesthood and so on but other many
0:24:11 other things and
0:24:14 deuteronomy contains also a transcript
0:24:17 of what has been in the tablets
0:24:19 the commandments the commandments as in
0:24:21 that because you don't have the thoughts
0:24:23 but they are
0:24:24 they are quoted there
0:24:26 allegedly verbally okay
0:24:29 comparing these two books
0:24:31 it's clear that there have been some
0:24:32 editing and changes and so on between
0:24:34 the two they are not they are not from
0:24:36 the hand of moussa that's all clearly
0:24:39 which is nobody clear man it's written
0:24:41 later and they seem to the autonomy is
0:24:44 like an edited version of leviticus and
0:24:46 with certain addition and improvement
0:24:48 and things like that that's this is true
0:24:52 so there have been and it can be seen
0:24:54 also by
0:24:56 studying the language they call text
0:24:57 critics criticism they
0:25:03 so that's one
0:25:04 there are three other books that we have
0:25:06 the genesis and then uh
0:25:08 uh excellence and numbers
0:25:10 now excellence and numbers description
0:25:12 of the exodus one is five from egypt
0:25:14 essentially essentially historical there
0:25:16 will be some some errors some mistakes
0:25:18 some some omissions maybe but it's not
0:25:20 for great relevance and
0:25:22 and numbers the number one is in their
0:25:24 tribes and so on this thing them etc
0:25:31 although there's a question about
0:25:33 they're using the word thousand because
0:25:35 if you count that's how many thousands
0:25:37 in that many have been like in the
0:25:38 exodus time two and a half million which
0:25:41 most scholar have difficulty believing
0:25:43 that such a number could be accommodated
0:25:45 with such a process of exodus
0:25:47 and the supply of food and water and all
0:25:49 these problems seems to be
0:25:51 reactively unsurmountable
0:25:54 but
0:25:55 it may be a wrong translation of a word
0:25:57 which meant maybe 64 or 60. instead they
0:26:01 didn't have an ad i have a decimal
0:26:03 system so maybe the large number for
0:26:05 them was something like 60. so if we
0:26:07 reduce the thousand to a 60 then the
0:26:09 number will become total but this is a
0:26:11 secondary point
0:26:13 but it's more or less historical if we
0:26:15 go to genesis
0:26:16 genesis is essentially the story the
0:26:19 story before abraham
0:26:21 there is
0:26:22 essentially mythical or legendary i mean
0:26:26 legendary for example the story of
0:26:28 for example is legendary that the flood
0:26:32 covered all day and that one animal has
0:26:33 expired except the one in the ship is
0:26:35 obviously a legend in that form is not
0:26:38 it can't be the farm animals for them
0:26:41 they they did not take need to take
0:26:43 elephants off gun like it's in the
0:26:45 picture depicting
0:26:47 the ship the ship of noah with elephants
0:26:49 so he didn't he was having only the just
0:26:52 the farm animals
0:26:54 no mistake at animals that time that's
0:26:56 all a small ship like that can
0:26:58 accommodate it's just absurd to believe
0:26:59 that and the flood was only in a limited
0:27:01 area of the earth all over the imaginary
0:27:03 stories about all the air flooded is
0:27:05 absorbed and nonsense but the core story
0:27:08 there there was a flood there was a man
0:27:09 called noah and there was a message and
0:27:11 they went around the enemies were
0:27:12 drowned that's the cause but the rest is
0:27:14 legendary the previous one adam story
0:27:17 may be just that adam has been created
0:27:18 by allah that's it what the prophet told
0:27:20 them and they inspired this but the rest
0:27:22 of the story is also mythical or
0:27:24 legendary
0:27:25 so that's not historical cannot be
0:27:27 regarded if anyone take that historical
0:27:29 then he has to blame himself that he
0:27:30 ends in never-ending contradiction and
0:27:32 absorbencies from ibrahim onward it's
0:27:35 more or less historical although maybe
0:27:38 and between adam and noah is also all
0:27:40 these myths are elements all these long
0:27:42 ages all of them this is just mythical
0:27:44 does not exist and all these old
0:27:46 genealogies is just abstract
0:27:48 that the blacks are from yafith and uh
0:27:50 or from from ham and sam and all of this
0:27:54 just an imaginary attempt to order the
0:27:57 humanity as the jews know at that time
0:28:00 according to color and the general face
0:28:02 shape those with flat noses and so on
0:28:05 and white these are the sons of behavior
0:28:07 uh those with moderate colors or another
0:28:09 son of sam and those with dark color as
0:28:11 the son of hams and so on and the way
0:28:14 and the all acceleration of the colors
0:28:15 is just it's just uh
0:28:17 mythical and so on not even legendary
0:28:20 uh
0:28:21 there's something superior because he
0:28:23 covered his father well this is absurd
0:28:25 nonsense so that's it so so that's
0:28:28 concerning the old testament
0:28:31 essentially so even the first five books
0:28:33 which they regard as the core and the
0:28:35 teaching
0:28:36 the book of genesis is essentially is
0:28:39 non-historical it's essentially legendry
0:28:41 and metaphorical and a bit of history
0:28:43 toward the end story of musa story maybe
0:28:45 of yusuf and so on and more or less yeah
0:28:47 yeah
0:28:49 and the rest as i said and going down
0:28:52 the books of the prophets and so on and
0:28:53 the judges and so on is i would say
0:28:55 reasonable history but you cannot trust
0:28:57 hundred percent because there may have
0:28:59 been uh
0:29:01 changes editing adjustment and so on and
0:29:04 the quran survival that clearly it says
0:29:06 very clearly that
0:29:08 that
0:29:10 that
0:29:11 they hide some of the books
0:29:18 christian because christian declared
0:29:20 many books to be apocryphal and they are
0:29:23 hiding them and destroying them and
0:29:24 burning them a few have survived here
0:29:26 and there and they show that some of the
0:29:28 apocrypha contain things which are
0:29:30 embarrassing for them which seem to be
0:29:31 historical and so on so that's that's
0:29:34 that's one way to do it another way is
0:29:36 that they uh quran the laments against
0:29:38 those who write the book of the hundred
0:29:40 claims from allah so that they can gain
0:29:42 power or gain wealth or money also there
0:29:44 and condemn that strongly so these books
0:29:46 have this contamination but as a
0:29:48 mainstream line of history yes we can
0:29:50 say that
0:29:52 so uh why are mentioning that so that's
0:29:55 so if we hear that haroun is only the
0:29:58 golden calf
0:29:59 but the quran corrects that it's a man
0:30:01 called the summary and the summary is
0:30:02 the relation to
0:30:04 summer or summer that's south iraq so
0:30:06 he's an iraqi man from sumerian
0:30:09 and the the the correct pronunciation
0:30:11 and the quran teaches us the correct
0:30:13 mention for summer is actually should be
0:30:15 summer
0:30:16 or salmar and this is someone you can
0:30:19 you can either do summer or summer
0:30:32 written by his enemies and is quite
0:30:34 hostile and declaring to be a muslim
0:30:36 undercover or misunderstanding for
0:30:38 for these things because they have also
0:30:41 their own daesh and things like that
0:30:42 with things like pictures under these
0:30:44 idols and things like that
0:30:46 they have their own
0:30:48 like whether we have our own diet and
0:30:50 these some of these have access to the
0:30:51 scripture and they were able to write
0:30:53 that down there under some stories about
0:30:55 the wood and
0:30:57 shameful stories and so on may be
0:30:58 fabricated and things like that
0:31:01 and uh and they they uh
0:31:04 just completely completely nonsensical
0:31:06 misunderstanding of certain action and
0:31:08 so on so that's that's the way to deal
0:31:10 with these books
0:31:14 coming down it's more or less historical
0:31:17 but with
0:31:19 precaution like for example look at the
0:31:21 story of talut when talut
0:31:24 advanced with the army to meet the
0:31:27 uh
0:31:27 julia at bryant
0:31:30 they passed on a river and he prohibited
0:31:31 them from drinking it itself accepted
0:31:33 small amounts and to test their
0:31:35 obedience like their self-control and
0:31:37 most of them did not obey and they send
0:31:38 them back
0:31:39 that story is not there for the for for
0:31:42 talot for saud the story is attributed
0:31:44 to one of the the prophets in the time
0:31:46 of all of the judges called
0:31:49 judeon
0:31:50 now
0:31:54 it's very well possible that one has a
0:31:55 similar story and the one for tarou they
0:31:57 have cut it out that the hostile party
0:32:00 the anti-thyroid party
0:32:02 that's the video party or it is actually
0:32:05 only for talot and they transferred the
0:32:06 story for another prophet in time past
0:32:08 so
0:32:09 that miraculous brazil but attributed to
0:32:11 another person we cannot yet because all
0:32:13 these books have been edited they are
0:32:15 aged and so on so we cannot be trusting
0:32:16 really
0:32:17 to that extent but
0:32:21 but in general the prophets mentioned
0:32:23 there it's unlikely that they are not
0:32:25 prophets
0:32:27 it's unlikely
0:32:29 especially female prophetess that's the
0:32:31 the mention of issues that have been
0:32:33 female prophetess all haven't been
0:32:36 because
0:32:37 uh
0:32:38 the whole old testament is extremely
0:32:39 masculine
0:32:41 is definitely anti-feminist
0:32:42 women declare to be unfit even for
0:32:44 witnesses
0:32:46 yeah
0:32:47 because at least these are right so then
0:32:50 the witness can't be accepted and at at
0:32:52 least that's what what the
0:32:54 common
0:32:57 point of view in the talmud etc so it's
0:32:59 very unlikely and the talmud emerged and
0:33:01 obviously from scholars who were
0:33:03 involved in the initial writing of these
0:33:05 documents so it's unlikely that such a
0:33:07 creamy masculine tribal background
0:33:11 will have female prophet prophetess
0:33:13 there
0:33:14 so there must have been female
0:33:15 prophetess like rules and things like
0:33:17 that like in the time of the judges
0:33:18 another and also the
0:33:20 wife of elias elisha
0:33:23 is not mentioned by the name but really
0:33:24 has talked about all these as the
0:33:25 prophetess
0:33:27 always so there have been female
0:33:28 prophets okay we can say that's an
0:33:30 extremely unaccurate they have not been
0:33:32 so the point of view that they've that
0:33:34 familiar being a female exclusion to be
0:33:36 a prophet
0:33:37 is is is not really very persuasive
0:33:40 understand not mention the quran any of
0:33:41 them does not indicate anything so some
0:33:44 of the prophets
0:33:45 and the messengers who have not
0:33:46 mentioned to us may be female
0:33:48 and the quran did not mention and like i
0:33:50 did
0:34:17 the reason information is only not to
0:34:20 allah exactly
0:34:22 so but but it's good to go to the old
0:34:24 testament and look to it with a critical
0:34:26 eye but not discount to get completely
0:34:29 like some people do not accepting it at
0:34:31 face as if it is a revealed truth is
0:34:34 neither but it is as i said from
0:34:37 from the exodus down it's essentially
0:34:40 historical
0:34:42 with a bit of fabrications parties and
0:34:44 points of view uh
0:34:46 factions fighting against us are
0:34:48 fabricating like we haven't also in
0:34:50 sunnah that's happens when you say and
0:34:52 this
0:34:52 was over the centuries
0:34:54 rewritten recombined and then in the
0:34:57 form which we have which is two
0:34:58 centuries before christ essentially
0:35:00 became stable that's essentially what
0:35:02 they call canonical
0:35:04 like one one and a half century buffalo
0:35:06 150 before christ it's almost certainly
0:35:09 that most of these books are already
0:35:10 canonical and took essentially a fixed
0:35:13 shape
0:35:14 like the book daniel fragments of this
0:35:16 is found in the in the in the day six
0:35:19 cross and carbohydrates one showed that
0:35:21 150 years before before christ
0:35:24 so the prophecies mentioned there are
0:35:26 wealthy really of consideration because
0:35:28 they are
0:35:29 genuinely historically in the time
0:35:31 before christ and before muhammad so if
0:35:33 they contain any prophecy related to
0:35:35 christ and muhammad
0:35:36 it's relevant and it shows that it has
0:35:38 prophetic origin also so it corroborates
0:35:41 that that part of the book at least as
0:35:43 prophetic conversion and corroborate
0:35:45 also that this lisa and mohammed are
0:35:47 messages
0:35:48 were prophesied by by daniel for example
0:35:51 and other events and so on
0:35:54 so that's i just mentioned that just as
0:35:56 a i a
0:35:59 intermittent as they just said in a
0:36:01 certain
0:36:03 formation just how to deal with these
0:36:05 books record people do not know how they
0:36:07 did not do the homework recently at
0:36:09 least in time past abraham did some
0:36:12 homework and did criticize the the claim
0:36:14 that the five books are coming from musa
0:36:17 well just to the same background that
0:36:18 the fifth book you told me mention the
0:36:20 death of moses say how can mutha rise is
0:36:22 on that
0:36:24 and his own barrier that's absorbed it
0:36:25 doesn't it doesn't work there it must be
0:36:27 written by you his his students you
0:36:29 shall be known so the ptolemy is not
0:36:31 from the editor at least not all of it
0:36:32 written by musa that was enough for him
0:36:34 to say these these books are not
0:36:36 belonging to those who are
0:36:38 they attributed to that is nonsensical
0:36:41 and even maimonides say that and they
0:36:42 declared them to be a kafir the jews
0:36:44 because he's a jewish scholar and jewish
0:36:46 so
0:36:48 but i think in modern time the last two
0:36:50 or three centuries everyone has pastor
0:36:52 even even the jewish scholarship they
0:36:54 have recognized they cannot just put
0:36:56 their head there and be stubborn without
0:36:58 being getting their head broken because
0:37:00 it's impossible
0:37:01 but the other hand
0:37:03 taking it
0:37:04 sufficiently serious in historic aspect
0:37:06 has been a bit undermined by extreme uh
0:37:10 secular and atheist points of view which
0:37:12 should be confronted on on historic
0:37:14 grounds which a lot of confrontation is
0:37:16 ongoing by doing archaeology by doing
0:37:18 other things by shaking roman records
0:37:20 and other nation because that's what
0:37:22 we're getting several we're getting
0:37:23 there a bit
0:37:24 in metropolitan like uh bible
0:37:27 scholarship is getting there although
0:37:28 they will never get to the developed we
0:37:30 can't get an islamic scholarship of
0:37:32 sunnah and syria because they don't have
0:37:34 the islands and they don't have that
0:37:35 huge amount of information and
0:37:38 narratives in which you can go and stay
0:37:40 safe but cross reference and collaborate
0:37:43 yeah okay so
0:37:45 continue
0:37:46 about the messages
0:38:03 of these prophets all of them
0:38:06 translate please
0:38:08 we sent all these apostles of as heralds
0:38:11 of glad tidings and as warner's so that
0:38:13 men might have no excuse before god
0:38:16 after the coming of these apostles and
0:38:18 god is indeed almighty wise so next
0:38:21 translation
0:38:22 all of these were messengers bearing
0:38:24 good news and warning so that people
0:38:26 would not have any excuse before god
0:38:28 after these messengers were sent
0:38:31 it is almighty and once
0:38:33 yeah this indicates that
0:38:39 there's a for diamonds to see and made
0:38:41 that creation of the world
0:38:44 that
0:38:45 humans will emerge
0:38:48 and they have sufficient rationality
0:38:51 and sufficient free will
0:38:54 to be addressed with commandments
0:38:56 and allah decided there will be
0:38:58 additional commandments
0:38:59 but the way that this is not addressing
0:39:01 everyone israel he could be
0:39:03 chosen that possibly everyone can be
0:39:05 addressed directly and receive
0:39:06 revelation likely that's no problem
0:39:08 follow us to do that but the decision
0:39:09 was made because allah's wisdom and this
0:39:12 is his nature
0:39:13 nobody can argue with that or analyze
0:39:16 any deeper than that except going to
0:39:17 infinite regress
0:39:19 is that there will be shoes and
0:39:20 messengers
0:39:22 in such a way that if you receive a
0:39:24 messenger
0:39:26 he must bring sufficient evidence that
0:39:28 he's a messenger
0:39:30 so that he have no excuse and then
0:39:33 there will be a resurrection and you
0:39:34 will be questioned about his messengers
0:39:37 if he does not if he did not send
0:39:39 messengers and he resurrect you and ask
0:39:41 you what did you do with him
0:39:43 how come how can i know that i am coming
0:39:45 to you on the right question
0:39:47 no necessity of reasoning indicating
0:39:49 that we see people being born generation
0:39:52 go they die they disintegrate that's it
0:39:55 now suddenly you ask me why did not
0:39:57 prepare for the day of judgment i didn't
0:39:58 know and there's no compelling reason
0:40:00 yes you can many people will share lives
0:40:02 that the soul must be that this free
0:40:04 will and this this consciousness cannot
0:40:06 go at waste and think that one
0:40:07 philosophical ground but this is only
0:40:09 for very few philosophers
0:40:11 and the argument is not necessarily so
0:40:13 persuasive that it will
0:40:15 it's not like one plus one is equal to
0:40:17 so you could have an argument against
0:40:18 allah almighty but that's not possible
0:40:20 nobody can argue with allah and get away
0:40:23 in the sense that defeat allah and
0:40:24 argument because allah is of
0:40:25 comprehensive knowledge and absolutely
0:40:27 mindfulness and rationality so that's
0:40:29 not alteration so he has to send
0:40:31 messengers if he wants to restrict the
0:40:33 billionaire
0:40:35 and
0:40:36 then
0:40:38 and give them sufficient evidence for
0:40:40 the prophethood so that the people
0:40:42 normally they will fail enough there
0:40:44 would be community failure
0:40:46 which is where you conclude from that
0:40:47 that is only those will be accounted
0:40:50 that they deny the truth who received
0:40:52 that root with evidence in such a way
0:40:54 that allah knows that they were
0:40:56 persuaded internally but they rejected
0:40:59 who is that in reality in the physical
0:41:01 we don't know we just leave to allah
0:41:04 many times that we remember we have
0:41:06 discussed what happened to the people
0:41:07 who did not see a message under 72 with
0:41:09 amazon my answer to everyone asking this
0:41:11 question why do you bother
0:41:15 leave them to allah he will match them
0:41:17 better than you
0:41:18 maybe these people who did not see a
0:41:20 message is having better luck than you
0:41:21 don't care what they asked they wouldn't
0:41:23 miss it say okay
0:41:25 go go to
0:41:26 the plane level or the lower level of
0:41:28 their paradise
0:41:32 maybe it's better for them to receive it
0:41:35 and you'll never know
0:41:37 yeah and also the hesitating point of
0:41:39 view that it is it is
0:41:41 that human can manage their affair other
0:41:43 than they cannot manage this is a bad
0:41:44 argument that this is the need for
0:41:45 prophets there is no need for so the
0:41:48 prophet has an obligation
0:41:50 if you want to account you there's no
0:41:51 need for them you can manage your life
0:41:54 you can put your own laws they may be
0:41:56 not perfect but you manage you can't
0:41:58 survive you see many nations are
0:42:00 managing with their own
0:42:01 cultures and traditions and so on maybe
0:42:03 not perfect management but they must
0:42:06 spanish they're surviving they're eating
0:42:07 their drinking they're procreating
0:42:10 they're even building cities and
0:42:11 villages and so on
0:42:12 they're doing
0:42:14 basically fine
0:42:19 so these messengers is just to
0:42:22 establish allah's argument against the
0:42:24 creation of qiyama that means there is
0:42:26 resurrection and they will be
0:42:27 questioning
0:42:28 but only those who receive the
0:42:29 messengers will be afraid if they are
0:42:31 accountable
0:42:32 the simplest solution for these were
0:42:34 asking about amazon they were going to
0:42:35 paradise why do you want
0:42:37 are you buggered because that because
0:42:39 they are lucky they didn't get any
0:42:40 messenger you just shut them in your
0:42:42 business
0:42:43 so don't get involved in this question
0:42:45 if someone comes with such a question as
0:42:47 usual here someone is having problem in
0:42:49 his mind or trying to create a problem
0:42:51 which doesn't exist there's no problem
0:42:53 because he did not
0:42:55 read the quran
0:42:56 properly you read the quran probably you
0:42:58 don't even ask this question but you may
0:43:01 even say maybe it's better for someone
0:43:02 or for all nations not to receive a
0:43:04 messenger for a long time
0:43:07 why care why
0:43:09 waste your time
0:43:10 in these questions
0:43:32 if you receive guidance from me then who
0:43:34 follow my guidance
0:43:37 he will be
0:43:39 probably guided and he will not be
0:43:40 unhappy
0:43:42 and to turn away from my guidance
0:43:45 he will live a miserable life
0:43:49 a miserable life
0:43:51 they have no internal peace no
0:43:52 orientation life he's just going around
0:43:54 like an animal with no direction
0:43:59 was blind in the region they asked my
0:44:01 lord why do you respect me i used to be
0:44:03 seen say because you received our eyes
0:44:06 and you turned away
0:44:07 and you forgot it so today we'll forget
0:44:09 you in your blindness
0:44:11 uh-huh and then
0:44:12 if you receive guidance then follow the
0:44:14 guidance otherwise you will have
0:44:15 miserable if you don't receive
0:44:17 forgiveness nothing is there
0:44:18 simple but anyway this is philosophical
0:44:21 let's go back so all these messengers
0:44:22 have these characters they bring good
0:44:24 news
0:44:26 of great rewards and so on and
0:44:27 resurrection because otherwise you think
0:44:29 you will expire and become dust and gone
0:44:32 this very depressive indeed
0:44:34 very negative i remember one of those
0:44:35 atheists who is
0:44:37 who is uh i think a film producer
0:44:40 i forgot his name and he was discussing
0:44:42 with some people and so on and they say
0:44:45 actually this this this film you made
0:44:48 he does first class films i will get his
0:44:50 name maybe one day or maybe i'll
0:44:51 remember him
0:44:52 he's not very old i saw that recently in
0:44:54 this video
0:44:55 this has a great message it persuaded
0:44:58 people to certain action as a political
0:45:00 philosophical something i'll say and
0:45:02 it's good that you produce that say
0:45:03 actually didn't use that for that
0:45:05 purpose
0:45:06 i just
0:45:07 tried to find something to get my mind
0:45:09 off this of thinking about that i will
0:45:11 rot in the grave and disintegrate and be
0:45:13 gone
0:45:15 that's the reason he's producing films
0:45:17 to to be busy with something is so that
0:45:19 he's not continuously thinking about
0:45:20 what happened in the future i will be
0:45:22 gone
0:45:23 and i'm just integrating
0:45:26 and this really the situation which is
0:45:28 someone who does not believe in
0:45:29 destruction should be in but the people
0:45:31 they whether they can black and they can
0:45:33 they can numb themselves with drugs with
0:45:35 alcohol with like this man with
0:45:37 achieving nice movies first class
0:45:39 philosophically discourses and so on
0:45:42 in movie form
0:45:45 just not just to get his mind off that
0:45:47 just with busy with something else
0:45:49 otherwise he'll bug you make your life
0:45:51 miserable
0:45:53 when you get the news that is not true
0:45:55 you will not expire you will be for you
0:45:57 are created for it and here
0:46:00 but for that you have to do something
0:46:03 and you have to be warned from doing
0:46:05 something which will be this eternal
0:46:06 life become miserable become
0:46:08 almost an eternal misery
0:46:12 that's the job of the messages
0:46:14 not that
0:46:15 that
0:46:16 humans need to manage their life and
0:46:18 they are unable they need messenger to
0:46:21 tell them that
0:46:23 how to do inheritance laws and so on
0:46:26 not for that but they will get they will
0:46:28 give you best laws yeah
0:46:30 it is not needed for that it's needed
0:46:32 for this
0:46:34 to get you out of the misery of being
0:46:36 expiring worthless
0:46:38 and being disoriented and living like an
0:46:40 animal
0:46:41 no direction
0:46:47 so this is the function of the missile
0:46:48 really
0:46:50 and allah has exalted and
0:46:52 completely perfectionist and
0:46:54 comprehensive
0:46:59 those who are rejecting the messenger
0:47:01 and trying to declare him to be an
0:47:03 imposter and so on
0:47:06 mostly jews in medina but also
0:47:07 christians and people
0:47:22 however it however it be god himself
0:47:25 bears witness to the truth of what he
0:47:27 has
0:47:28 bestowed from on high on thee out of his
0:47:31 own wisdom has he bestowed it from on
0:47:33 high with the angels bearing witness
0:47:35 thereto
0:47:36 although none can bear witness as god
0:47:38 does next translation god himself bears
0:47:41 witness to what he has sent down to you
0:47:44 he sent it down from on high with with
0:47:46 his knowledge and with angels bearing
0:47:48 witness although god is a sufficient
0:47:50 witness
0:47:51 this seems to be strange because
0:47:53 muhammad claimed he has been sent by
0:47:55 allah and so allah is witnessing he is
0:47:57 witnessing for you we are claiming that
0:47:59 that's actually not addressed to those
0:48:01 those have been addressed by showing
0:48:03 historic facts which they have been
0:48:05 hidden under or the correct
0:48:06 clarification of historic situation like
0:48:08 the issue with risa etc
0:48:10 actually it's addressed besides the
0:48:12 republic as a general philosophical
0:48:14 statement this to those who believe that
0:48:17 from the philosophical
0:48:18 that prophets are actually
0:48:20 somehow in connection with the supreme
0:48:22 mind of the universe who is like removed
0:48:24 and not communicated with humans but
0:48:27 somehow radiates knowledge to them
0:48:29 without knowing there's a philosophical
0:48:31 point to you or for example brahman that
0:48:33 the gods radiates knowledge and you gain
0:48:35 the knowledge by exercising uh by a
0:48:37 harsh exercise like for standing on one
0:48:39 feet for a thousand years then you get
0:48:41 access to heaven and you can't visit
0:48:43 lord brahma folks
0:48:45 something like that
0:48:47 and this always comes by it flows from
0:48:49 the divine without his knowledge
0:48:53 for this category of viewer and
0:48:54 philosophy said actually the so-called
0:48:56 supreme reason is actually busy in while
0:48:58 admiring himself and he's not considered
0:49:00 anything else obviously these people
0:49:02 will deny prophets i'll say but but we
0:49:04 have the phenomenal prophethood ah the
0:49:06 supreme reason radiates this knowledge
0:49:08 and it comes in the prophet's mind and
0:49:10 they have they have certain brain
0:49:12 structure or whatever is it so that they
0:49:14 have as exceptional imagination and
0:49:16 perception power
0:49:18 and this
0:49:19 appears to them that they're seeing
0:49:20 angels appear for them they are
0:49:21 receiving not divine which is not a lie
0:49:24 but it is just a representation just
0:49:25 imagination they are deceived
0:49:28 not by subconscious but by supreme mind
0:49:31 in that sense but self subconscious
0:49:33 translate that into
0:49:35 like anthropomorphic
0:49:37 images but the divine is not aware about
0:49:39 that
0:49:40 for those specifically and on january
0:49:43 allah is witnessing
0:49:45 that he has revealed it to
0:49:46 consciously knowingly
0:49:48 he is completely his complete complete
0:49:52 of great knowledge and mindfulness of
0:49:53 his own action he is not just radiating
0:49:56 like the sandra dating without knowing
0:49:58 that she is radiating no that's not
0:50:00 that's not the way the divine being uh
0:50:03 the the proper divine being is is well
0:50:05 defined that that other entity is a
0:50:08 philosophical constructs of aristotle's
0:50:10 and others which is in generally
0:50:12 contradictory it can be improved i'm not
0:50:14 going to go into the details of the
0:50:15 proof but it's impossible because
0:50:18 the in that case it must be acting by
0:50:20 necessity but acting by city is not
0:50:22 possible it can't create this universe
0:50:24 so we have to have the being who is
0:50:25 acting by absolute
0:50:27 spontaneous suffering and this is
0:50:29 impossible that we being who knows what
0:50:31 he is doing and have complete knowledge
0:50:33 so he got stuck back to the divine being
0:50:36 of the scripture who reveals and knows
0:50:38 that he is revealing allah is witnessing
0:50:40 that he revealed that with his own
0:50:42 knowledge and
0:50:44 me
0:50:45 he revealed it with his own knowledge is
0:50:47 not
0:50:48 radiating from him like this this is
0:50:51 like the photons coming from the sun
0:50:52 that the sun is completely unaware of
0:50:54 that just process dynamically no no no
0:50:57 it is by his knowledge he is an
0:50:59 absolutely sovereign
0:51:01 well absolute sovereign will with
0:51:04 absolute comprehensive knowledge and
0:51:06 this revelation is with his own
0:51:08 knowledge and acted upon by his own will
0:51:11 it is not is not radiating is not by
0:51:13 demanding it is by action
0:51:16 and actions compare done by an absolute
0:51:18 civilian for spontaneous free will
0:51:21 and the engines are intermediary
0:51:22 witnessing but they're just a secondary
0:51:24 weapon it's just the channel of the
0:51:26 what are the engines we don't know don't
0:51:28 involve in the engines we depict them as
0:51:30 maybe sometimes like
0:51:33 good looking men with two angels wings
0:51:35 for directing whatever you want
0:51:37 something else
0:51:40 one time i made a joke with someone who
0:51:42 was discussing some princesses say uh
0:51:45 this dark matter and so on and say maybe
0:51:47 there's not much of these angels you
0:51:49 don't know
0:51:50 because you have the hadith that says
0:51:52 the heavens are up but
0:51:55 they have heavy loaded
0:51:57 and it is
0:51:58 deserved that they are having a table
0:52:00 because there's no hand span and no
0:52:02 finger breath except an angel is
0:52:05 standing there or praying or prostrating
0:52:08 so that these guys must be the dark
0:52:10 matter or the dark energy and i'm just
0:52:12 joking but that's it so don't don't
0:52:14 indulge yourself what the angels are
0:52:16 they are entities who bring the message
0:52:18 from allah to the creation and two
0:52:19 things in the investment alliance are
0:52:21 like the angel of death
0:52:23 when you die
0:52:24 the messenger of god
0:52:26 and jericho
0:52:27 receive your soul
0:52:29 oh no i see your soul is something
0:52:31 completely abstract that the angels must
0:52:33 be somebody some kind of abstract
0:52:34 entities who can take records anyway we
0:52:37 don't go into that because going into
0:52:39 that more than that
0:52:41 except in a special class for it will
0:52:43 just be confusing
0:52:44 don't speculate on the engine think it
0:52:46 is it's like radiation or something like
0:52:48 no it may be something deeper than that
0:52:50 something more complex than that we
0:52:51 don't know but these entities witness
0:52:54 that because they are the intermediary
0:52:55 of that act and it seems to be clearly
0:52:57 that they are capable of witnessing
0:52:58 because they take records and so on
0:53:00 but not necessarily capable of doing any
0:53:02 action and maybe not even
0:53:04 fully conscious being maybe partially
0:53:06 conscious we don't know
0:53:08 and even the
0:53:09 time of sermon there was an argument at
0:53:11 the end it's really responsible being
0:53:12 like us like humans because one one i
0:53:15 think one time you're also happy we say
0:53:17 humans are superior to engines and
0:53:18 someone who protects them say my my my
0:53:21 cousin
0:53:22 or my nephew that's usually an old man
0:53:24 in arabia my nephew be the son of my
0:53:26 brother listen a nice address
0:53:29 do you know what the angels are they
0:53:30 just had like this wind
0:53:33 it flies and that says that's it they
0:53:36 cannot be superior to humans
0:53:38 like the wind anyway that's his point of
0:53:40 view
0:53:42 but in any case whatever the angels may
0:53:44 be
0:53:45 most relevant and most important most
0:53:47 sufficient witness is the witness
0:53:48 follower
0:53:50 allah is sufficient witness
0:53:52 allah is a sufficient witness for that
0:53:55 so this is addressing to those who
0:53:56 believe allies is emanating knowledge is
0:53:58 something like
0:53:59 like like an entity which radiates
0:54:01 knowledge and radiates images and things
0:54:03 without being aware of what he's doing
0:54:05 no that's not that's that's an entity
0:54:07 which cannot exist i cannot create and
0:54:09 definitely cannot be the creator of this
0:54:11 universe for the creator of this
0:54:12 universe is definitely must be acting
0:54:14 but absolutely spontaneous sovereign
0:54:16 free will otherwise it's not possible
0:54:18 either they're not explain the creation
0:54:21 but this is the job obviously the
0:54:22 evidences of divine beings under and
0:54:25 that that it is acting by it a free will
0:54:27 etc
0:54:29 then our commenting of that thing is
0:54:31 after all of these this information
0:54:33 about prophets and what allah the
0:54:35 fundamental aspects of the meaning of
0:54:37 really where were prisons
0:54:39 and earth and so on
0:54:41 unless there is a resurrection and there
0:54:42 will be questioning and there will be
0:54:44 people arguing and can't align
0:54:46 after all that
0:54:47 what about those who have rejected that
0:54:50 and
0:54:50 prevented people from accepting uh
0:54:53 preventing themselves and others to go
0:54:54 to the correct way
0:54:56 what is their destiny what they deserve
0:54:58 of condemnation the next is that
0:55:03 one
0:55:10 behold those who are bent on denying the
0:55:12 truth and on turning others away from
0:55:14 the path of god have indeed gone far
0:55:16 astray in translation those who have
0:55:19 denied the truth and turned other ways
0:55:21 others away from god have gone far
0:55:23 astray yeah because based on that what
0:55:26 has happened
0:55:27 it has been discussed before there have
0:55:29 been messengers
0:55:30 and there will be resurrection they will
0:55:32 be questioning these have been sent
0:55:34 specifically to establish the argument
0:55:36 in an irrefutable way for your matayama
0:55:38 but also to bring the good news or that
0:55:40 there is a reaction you are not going to
0:55:41 rot away like this this director is
0:55:44 complaining about him he is lamenting
0:55:46 his own district it said oh no that's
0:55:48 not true
0:55:49 you have better a better future than
0:55:51 that but also there are there are
0:55:53 dangers along the way you have to be
0:55:54 aware and we have to deal with them
0:55:57 now yes you are more valuable than just
0:55:59 rotting away you know which much more
0:56:00 important value will be and not like
0:56:02 animals will just expire with this
0:56:04 unconsciousness no no no or limited
0:56:06 consciousness is sufficient not
0:56:08 sufficient for them to be disabled
0:56:09 vietnam
0:56:11 but those who deny the truth
0:56:14 of this fine messenger
0:56:17 all these uh all these fundamental
0:56:19 aspects
0:56:20 and they
0:56:21 diverted people away from that they have
0:56:23 been misguided far away because if
0:56:25 that's the truth then what they have
0:56:27 what the the road they they have struck
0:56:30 for themselves is definitely far away
0:56:32 from any government through guidance
0:56:34 and it's far away it's really follow
0:56:36 it's not just a small deviation which
0:56:38 you can easily it is radically different
0:56:41 this is like yes you want to go east and
0:56:43 then you make the mistake going west
0:56:46 never get there absolutely impossible
0:56:48 there's no way or even even worse you go
0:56:50 south because maybe if somebody goes
0:56:52 they go east and they come from the west
0:56:54 by because there is
0:56:58 a sphere that's fine but if you want to
0:57:00 go east washington we are certain
0:57:02 destination by going south you will
0:57:04 never get there ever because
0:57:06 at first you can come from north pole
0:57:08 and you're staying for all your times
0:57:09 you're not getting anywhere that's not
0:57:11 alright it's completely perpendicular to
0:57:13 the direction
0:57:15 does not get anywhere
0:57:17 and then another category
0:57:21 of this believer who committed in
0:57:23 addition engines is
0:57:24 Music
0:57:35 behold those who have been to deny the
0:57:36 truth and evil doing god will not
0:57:39 forgive them nor will he guide them onto
0:57:42 any
0:57:43 road i think yeah
0:57:44 yeah next translation god will not
0:57:46 forgive those who reject the truth and
0:57:48 are unjust nor will he guide them to any
0:57:51 past exactly
0:57:52 so
0:57:56 that he will not forgive them if they
0:57:58 die in that state if they repent and
0:57:59 come back that's still the possibility
0:58:01 is there for some people but
0:58:03 but doesn't doesn't get guide him any in
0:58:06 any way
0:58:07 he will not
0:58:08 he will not allow them
0:58:11 he will not allow uh
0:58:13 because they have the free will to
0:58:14 choose
0:58:15 and he allows them to choose whatever
0:58:17 they choose
0:58:18 he will not
0:58:19 he will
0:58:20 in the case of
0:58:21 the guidance allah is at liberty to to
0:58:24 be beneficial to to to human beings that
0:58:27 he gives them certain hints and guidance
0:58:30 like said and dreams certain things for
0:58:32 the guidance not from this guidance for
0:58:34 the guidance
0:58:35 so these even will not have the benefit
0:58:37 he will not even give them this benefit
0:58:39 of these because of their injustice and
0:58:41 transgression they will not you just let
0:58:43 them choose whatever without giving any
0:58:45 hint which will may guide to a good way
0:58:47 because sometimes you you get a dream
0:58:49 and you you are god because you are not
0:58:51 you didn't commit such injustice you may
0:58:53 and you did not deny the thoughts
0:58:56 so so violently and viciously
0:58:58 and maliciously and
0:59:01 at such a level then still you may get
0:59:03 from allah said and hence certain dreams
0:59:05 certain incidents which shock you and
0:59:07 ask you is that is that accidental or it
0:59:10 is some a divine handball and many
0:59:12 people report that you can ask many
0:59:14 people who
0:59:16 came back through that also the belief
0:59:18 and so on that they have certain
0:59:19 experiences which is quite odd and so on
0:59:21 that's all from allah
0:59:23 these expenses
0:59:24 are not granted to even this kind of
0:59:26 oppressive and viciously the malicious
0:59:29 catholic and they will not have
0:59:30 forgiveness
0:59:33 about which way he may guide or uh make
0:59:35 open for them
0:59:37 is the way which is obviously in front
0:59:39 of them which is they have chosen
0:59:44 a
0:59:52 but the road that leads to hell therein
0:59:53 to abide beyond the count of time and
0:59:56 this is indeed easy for god next
0:59:58 translation accept the past that leads
1:00:00 to hell where they will live eternally
1:00:03 this is easy for god yeah so
1:00:06 that's clear that's the way to hell and
1:00:08 there must be a living attention that's
1:00:10 a little discussion about that they'll
1:00:11 expire not expel we're not going to
1:00:13 discuss that nowaday maybe one day we
1:00:14 will have we'll have communication for
1:00:16 that with various arguments of
1:00:18 philosophical and scriptural arguments
1:00:20 about that but
1:00:22 we'll see him it is for a long time take
1:00:23 about that he has a long time not not a
1:00:25 mathematical
1:00:26 eternity which never expires
1:00:30 and this is easy for allah how can god
1:00:33 do like somewhere
1:00:34 how can god be so unkind to he creates
1:00:36 this creation and go through that much
1:00:38 trouble and tolerate all that is
1:00:40 happening and it certainly is not happy
1:00:43 what they are doing and then he just
1:00:45 cast them in hell
1:00:46 no don't worry it's easy for allah since
1:00:48 you have chosen that for you and you
1:00:50 stubbornly didn't have the truth and
1:00:51 ignored all possible signs you have
1:00:53 received after all of that
1:00:55 what you expect a lot to give you signs
1:00:57 on the way to to salvation no you have
1:00:59 shows that and you indulge into death
1:01:01 but allah has forsaken you and it's easy
1:01:04 for you
1:01:04 you see there are many other believers
1:01:06 who are sufficient like when the
1:01:08 challenge of religion said if you if you
1:01:09 give me life until the day
1:01:11 you'll find most of these
1:01:14 humans which you have given nobility and
1:01:16 made them preferable over me they will
1:01:18 not
1:01:19 they will not be
1:01:20 thankful for you for you for these
1:01:22 favors
1:01:23 and allah answered to him
1:01:25 my my sincere servants have saved the
1:01:27 ones who sincerely belong to me they
1:01:29 will not have power over them but who
1:01:31 follow you
1:01:33 bye go hellfire is waiting for you i
1:01:35 don't care about them i will not be
1:01:37 grieving about them so allah is not
1:01:38 going to grieve about this believer or
1:01:41 or feel pity for them that's that's
1:01:42 that's the imagination maybe you may
1:01:44 find that maybe in some christian
1:01:46 circles who who believes that allah
1:01:48 sacrifice his own son or part of his own
1:01:51 self for humanity this is all nonsense
1:01:53 he can know allah creation is different
1:01:55 yes he is kind to his creation he's
1:01:58 subtle to his creation but if the
1:01:59 creation shows to turn away from him and
1:02:02 indulge stubbornly
1:02:19 in
1:02:35 o mankind the apostle has now come unto
1:02:37 you with the truth from your sustainer
1:02:39 believe them for your own good and if
1:02:41 you deny the truth behold unto god
1:02:43 belongs all that is in the heavens and
1:02:45 all that is on earth and god is indeed
1:02:48 all knowing wise next translation people
1:02:51 the messenger has come to you with the
1:02:52 truth from your lord so believe in it
1:02:54 for your own well-being if you deny the
1:02:57 truth remember that to god belongs
1:02:59 everything that is in the heavens and on
1:03:01 earth god is honoring and all wise yeah
1:03:04 exactly so so don't think it's a if you
1:03:07 don't believe
1:03:08 that you are that that you are making a
1:03:10 dent in god's sovereignty or our kingdom
1:03:13 he owns everything in heaven so it will
1:03:15 not cause him any harm the only one harm
1:03:16 this way is yourself and he's all
1:03:19 pervasive and also the same like this
1:03:21 here and before easy for him that's the
1:03:23 same
1:03:24 you're not going to bother him you are
1:03:25 only going to
1:03:27 to bother yourself and damage yourself
1:03:29 but because you are missing than on the
1:03:31 great opportunity of eternal joy and
1:03:34 everything that's all ending in misery
1:03:36 and then
1:03:38 damnation that's all it is and this will
1:03:40 not reduce my liking there's anything
1:03:41 whatsoever
1:03:43 so nobody should come in and then and
1:03:45 and the idea or the thought that allah
1:03:48 would be would be losing or something
1:03:50 you know nothing like also he said
1:03:52 muhammad is mentioning that his god is
1:03:55 is punishing all these nations
1:03:56 previously and other nations by
1:03:58 destruction and so on is he not afraid
1:04:00 that after punishing all of these people
1:04:02 nobody is left to worship him
1:04:05 as if allah is needing of their worship
1:04:07 because that's what they think of the
1:04:08 pagan if you look through some some
1:04:10 indian movies
1:04:12 and some one of the hindus is stuck in
1:04:14 some calamity he goes to the island
1:04:16 threatening him if you don't solve me
1:04:17 that problem i will stop worshiping you
1:04:20 so that's the way they deal with the
1:04:22 gods and idols and i think the creator
1:04:24 winners of this category
1:04:26 these people are living in deepest
1:04:29 low level of rationality and they think
1:04:31 that's rational or acceptable
1:04:34 and then another address now to the
1:04:36 people of the book
1:04:38 Music
1:04:49 Music
1:04:52 rasulullah
1:05:11 oh followers of the gospel do not
1:05:13 overstep the bounds of truth in your
1:05:15 religious beliefs and do not say of god
1:05:17 anything but the truth
1:05:19 the christ jesus son of mary was about
1:05:21 god's apostle the fulfillment of his
1:05:24 promise which he had conveyed unto mary
1:05:26 and the soul created by him
1:05:28 believe then in god and his apostles and
1:05:31 do not say god is a trinity
1:05:34 desist from this assertion for your own
1:05:36 good god is but one god utterly remote
1:05:39 is he in his glory from having a son
1:05:43 unto him belongs all that is in the
1:05:45 heavens and all that is on earth and
1:05:47 none is as worthy of trust as god next
1:05:49 translation people of the book do not
1:05:52 exercise in your
1:05:54 do not be excessive in your beliefs and
1:05:56 do not say anything about god except the
1:05:58 truth
1:05:59 the messiah jesus son of mary is the
1:06:02 messenger of god
1:06:03 his word contain convey to mary and a
1:06:06 spirit from him
1:06:07 believe in god and his messengers and do
1:06:09 not say three
1:06:11 stop this for your own good god is only
1:06:13 one god so exalted is he in his glory
1:06:16 from abi from having a son
1:06:18 everything belongs to him that is in the
1:06:21 heavens and on earth none is as worthy
1:06:23 to trust as he
1:06:25 okay so just the first one says okay of
1:06:27 the gospel that's a mistake that's just
1:06:29 the twitter of the book
1:06:31 do not go extreme in your religion is
1:06:32 that just both for the jews and to the
1:06:35 and to the kisses for the jews because
1:06:36 they went extreme over there he said
1:06:38 that he is the son of x-ray so and so on
1:06:40 and he's an imposter that's extremely
1:06:41 religion that's extremism because this
1:06:44 is not the the proper address to someone
1:06:47 of isa and his what he has been doing
1:06:50 that's going to extreme and the other
1:06:52 one who accept him as a messenger
1:06:54 elevated him to the rank of divinity
1:06:56 which is again extremism in the other
1:06:58 side so one is extreme in the name
1:06:59 positive when you say both are extreme
1:07:01 so the second transition is better it's
1:07:03 the people of the book both are adjusted
1:07:05 so isa is not the son of a questionable
1:07:08 woman etc
1:07:09 nor he is a divine being
1:07:11 he is the messenger of god
1:07:27 inspired to maryam and spread it from
1:07:28 him
1:07:29 so believe in allah and his messengers
1:07:31 not only the issa but all miss angels
1:07:33 including this one bring you this
1:07:35 message
1:07:36 don't say three stop saying that three
1:07:38 three attribute
1:07:39 stop it is better for you so till that
1:07:42 moment it may be accepted by historic
1:07:44 mistakes
1:07:45 from now on it's not accepted
1:07:47 in
1:07:48 one deity
1:08:09 three and one same time which is
1:08:11 impossible we know but that's that's the
1:08:12 way they are formulated
1:08:17 so allah is not a trinity it's only one
1:08:19 god
1:08:22 exalted b is that he may have us of the
1:08:24 sun because it's impossible
1:08:26 to contradict
1:08:28 the meaning of being necessarily
1:08:29 existing
1:08:33 and this is the one under the this the
1:08:36 sun hood in the sense of the sense of
1:08:39 of the genuine
1:08:41 the genetic sun wood is the one denied
1:08:44 the adoption is just a special election
1:08:46 that's not an issue which is worth the
1:08:47 scatter oh it is prohibited in the
1:08:49 financial area to use it but it is not a
1:08:51 fundamental issue so they said that the
1:08:53 sun in the sense of a divine being a
1:08:55 divine
1:08:56 entity that's impossible that can't be
1:08:58 for the necessary existing meaning who
1:09:00 is singular with who is really allowed
1:09:03 to use mathematical is like a
1:09:05 mathematical point
1:09:07 like a geometric point completely
1:09:08 indivisible it cannot be having any any
1:09:11 structure or any details like that's
1:09:13 impossible
1:09:14 and his his belongs to everything in
1:09:16 heaven and earth
1:09:18 under marisa while he was living he was
1:09:20 in on earth in part of him so he belongs
1:09:23 to allah is owned by allah completely
1:09:25 no no way to to get away from this
1:09:28 and this is allah his vision to guard
1:09:30 the end of the truth and thought worthy
1:09:32 of trusting in his statement and his
1:09:34 advice and his commandments
1:09:39 and then another important point which
1:09:41 may the people
1:09:42 christian
1:09:43 may think that that
1:09:45 the messiah is a will would be upset
1:09:48 although it would be too arrogant to be
1:09:50 slave of allah and the servant no it's
1:09:53 not as a matter of actually the early
1:09:55 church especially
1:09:57 claimant of rome
1:09:59 he said in summary that jesus
1:10:02 is the servant of god and his messenger
1:10:04 that's what he said so this was known at
1:10:06 this at least until the end of the first
1:10:08 century that was the common view in
1:10:11 palestine and the complete roma at least
1:10:13 it was amazing to find such a statement
1:10:15 still at the end but later on does it
1:10:17 does have fallen oblivion and then the
1:10:20 the extremism took place and then he
1:10:22 become
1:10:24 put into the divine level so next time
1:10:26 he says thank you very much
1:10:36 never did that christ feel too proud to
1:10:38 be god's servant nor do the angels who
1:10:40 are near onto him and those who feel too
1:10:43 proud to serve him and glory in their
1:10:45 arrogance should know that on judgment
1:10:47 day he will gather them all unto himself
1:10:50 next translation the messiah was never
1:10:53 too proud to be god's servant nor were
1:10:55 the angels who are near to him he will
1:10:57 gather before him the arrogant and all
1:10:59 those who are too proud to worship him
1:11:02 so this is this is clearly why what
1:11:04 mistakes there that
1:11:05 even the messiah would never he has
1:11:07 always tested he the servant of god and
1:11:09 he's not equal to god and so on and he
1:11:11 will never be
1:11:12 really uh rejecting to be the servant
1:11:15 and as a slave of allah no way and not
1:11:18 neither the close angels meaning
1:11:19 especially the holy spirit because their
1:11:21 spirit is is supposed to be one of the
1:11:22 angels in the best construction they
1:11:24 have we know it is the holy spirit is
1:11:26 really another name of
1:11:28 jibril but for some reason
1:11:32 the
1:11:33 the
1:11:36 some modern christian they claim oh it
1:11:38 was the holy spirit appeared in time uh
1:11:40 yeah that holy spirit is maybe jibril
1:11:43 but
1:11:44 but the messiah himself the spirit of
1:11:46 israel before he came as a as
1:11:48 it was saint mike so michael became lisa
1:11:51 or something like that so
1:11:53 some kind of supreme or first-class
1:11:54 angels are somehow divine but even these
1:11:57 supreme angels they have a strong angels
1:12:00 jibril and mikhail are definitely not
1:12:03 too arrogant to be slave and accept to
1:12:05 be slave allah and worship him and
1:12:06 whoever dares to be
1:12:08 too arrogant to be servant to allah and
1:12:10 say submit to him he will connect all of
1:12:13 them
1:12:14 to him in the day of judgment
1:12:34 whereupon
1:12:36 where upon unto those who attain to
1:12:38 faith and did good deeds he will grant
1:12:41 their
1:12:42 just rewards and give them yet more out
1:12:44 of his bounty whereas those who felt too
1:12:47 proud and gloried in their in their
1:12:50 arrogance he will chastise with grievous
1:12:52 punishment his grievous suffering and
1:12:54 they shall find none to protect them
1:12:56 from god and none to bring them to kill
1:12:58 this translation to those who believe
1:13:00 and do good deeds he will give them
1:13:02 their just rewards and give them even
1:13:05 more out of his favor whereas to those
1:13:07 who felt too proud and arrogant you will
1:13:09 punish them with that painful punishment
1:13:11 they will find no one to protect them
1:13:13 from god
1:13:14 so you see he said allah says that those
1:13:17 who believe and do good deeds that is
1:13:19 essentially being a god servant
1:13:21 if you have got servant you you will
1:13:22 believe and you do good deeds that's
1:13:24 equivalent to be god's servant and vice
1:13:26 versa so it doesn't stay this who was
1:13:28 your but accepted to be servants no need
1:13:29 to say that's your belief and
1:13:32 make good deeds and you have accepted
1:13:34 the divine commandments under the
1:13:35 definition of good and evil and accepted
1:13:38 allah as your lord that's that's the
1:13:39 meaning so there's no other meaning for
1:13:41 that
1:13:42 they will get their reward and added in
1:13:45 additional
1:13:47 reward from allah from his body and from
1:13:49 his extra favors but those who were
1:13:51 arrogant
1:13:53 and rejected to to
1:13:55 to submit
1:13:56 to to him and is by decision by the
1:13:59 marriage action they were out of the
1:14:01 camp no none what they do can't be
1:14:02 declared as good deeds even if they
1:14:04 claim it's moral and so on it just has
1:14:06 no relevance it's disconnected from the
1:14:08 source of existence social morality in
1:14:10 the universe a lot of others
1:14:12 they can declare whatever they want we
1:14:14 are serving humanity or philanthropist
1:14:16 it doesn't count for us
1:14:17 because they have rejected god as their
1:14:19 lord
1:14:20 and all what they doing is in vain
1:14:22 doesn't it doesn't have any value or
1:14:23 disconnected from the real sort of
1:14:25 existence of this sort of rationality
1:14:27 and the insults of of morality
1:14:30 these will be
1:14:32 will be punished severely and they will
1:14:34 find more support and nobody giving them
1:14:36 victory or help in making
1:14:55 and we have sent down unto you a clear
1:14:57 light that's translation people
1:14:59 convincing truth has now come to you
1:15:01 from your lord and we have sent down to
1:15:03 you clear enlightenment
1:15:06 yeah so this is very clear so after all
1:15:07 my kind you have received evidences for
1:15:10 han
1:15:11 proofs from your lord
1:15:13 and we have sent down to you a guiding
1:15:16 light an evident guiding light
1:15:18 that's the quran and the message
1:15:20 is himself in the sense of guidance
1:15:24 all his life is a proper guidance and
1:15:25 this all of it
1:15:27 all these advances
1:15:28 and evidence that we just need to bond a
1:15:30 little bit and analyze it that's it and
1:15:33 to double
1:15:35 manage it from front to back back to
1:15:37 front not only one eye are not something
1:15:39 out of context all of it then the
1:15:41 evidence is very clear and compelling
1:15:45 so that you have received now
1:15:48 what will be a response depending upon
1:15:50 your response you will
1:16:00 my
1:16:06 and as for those who have attained to
1:16:07 faith in god and hold fast unto him he
1:16:10 will enfold them within his grace and
1:16:12 bounty and guide them unto himself by a
1:16:14 straight way in translation as for those
1:16:17 who believed in him and hold fast to him
1:16:20 god will admit them to his mercy and
1:16:21 grace and will guide them to themselves
1:16:23 on a straight path
1:16:25 so that's clear it does mention those
1:16:27 who do not
1:16:28 believe and
1:16:30 hold tight to allah because they
1:16:31 mentioned before then even not worthy
1:16:33 mentioning now what's now mentioning is
1:16:35 just the positive side because you have
1:16:36 the proof you have everything then get
1:16:39 get online
1:16:40 and get to get get the benefit of that
1:16:43 so these will believe in allah and hold
1:16:45 for tightroom they will will be entered
1:16:48 in the divine mercy and extern extra
1:16:51 rewards and extra their grace and
1:16:53 benefits which they cannot imagine
1:16:55 expect now
1:16:56 and they will be in this life guided to
1:16:59 him as a straight path they will not be
1:17:01 wavering and thinking about slotting in
1:17:02 the gravel so this will be gone all of
1:17:04 it
1:17:05 and the other ones is clear with
1:17:07 national policy it's no good to mention
1:17:08 them again because they have maybe
1:17:10 shelbury and they will be just spoil the
1:17:12 positive picture which is being
1:17:13 presented down that's the positive
1:17:15 picture negative picture has been
1:17:16 presented before
1:17:19 the last eye is the eye of kanala
1:17:21 we will do it insha'allah next time and
1:17:24 connect it to the previous io and see if
1:17:26 we can solve the problem of the of the
1:17:29 inheritance between ibn abbas and his
1:17:32 camp and uh
1:17:33 and
1:17:35 omar and his camp
1:17:36 and sure that the brahmas was right but
1:17:38 he needed a
1:17:39 further small correction
1:17:42 than it would be
1:17:54 um any questions from anyone
1:17:57 i will allow people i'm new
1:18:02 so
1:18:03 going once
1:18:05 going twice
1:18:08 thanks to we're straight in there hello
1:18:10 hello yeah
1:18:13 you know i'm starting to bro
1:18:16 um
1:18:19 well i was going to say just a quick uh
1:18:21 sort of follow-up just so you have some
1:18:22 information brother first approached me
1:18:29 forget about no no no questions relevant
1:18:31 to the uh uh
1:18:33 apart from one thing you mentioned
1:18:35 casually that there was a church father
1:18:37 who mentioned that the christ was the
1:18:39 slave of uh of allah
1:18:42 and and yeah this is a claimant of rome
1:18:46 second question
1:18:48 okay alhamdulillah you see the the
1:18:50 picture that the picture that is um
1:18:53 that's pointed out yeah this is a very
1:18:55 active field
1:18:56 of research and discussion for
1:18:58 patristics and alhamdulillah
1:19:00 just due to um
1:19:03 some local
1:19:04 uh in uh sort of connections there's a
1:19:07 priest who is one of a he's a top
1:19:08 historian basically father ellis to
1:19:09 stewart sykes good friend of mine is
1:19:11 historian so i've been down to the
1:19:12 um the justice conference in oxford
1:19:15 a few years ago
1:19:16 um
1:19:18 the thing is that they will accept
1:19:20 um that the development of their
1:19:22 theology occurred over several centuries
1:19:24 their their general point of course is
1:19:27 that this was the uh for the catholics
1:19:29 let's just take the catholic strait for
1:19:30 example right the catholics in eastern
1:19:32 orthodox will accept that okay there
1:19:33 were certain ideas this this was one of
1:19:35 those ideas
1:19:36 um
1:19:37 and the the body the jim hood kind of
1:19:39 gathered on this understanding of the
1:19:41 patriarchs
1:19:42 of uh of trinity or the godhead and you
1:19:45 know atonement and all this kind of
1:19:46 things coming later the the question i
1:19:49 find interesting is what's downplayed
1:19:52 maybe you want to comment on this right
1:19:54 is the role of the jerusalem church and
1:19:56 the early church fathers around isla
1:19:58 islam
1:19:59 and what they were doing and also for me
1:20:01 one of the most interesting bits of
1:20:02 christian early christian literature are
1:20:04 the desert fathers i don't know if
1:20:05 you've ever read the sayings of the
1:20:06 desert fathers it's powerful spiritual
1:20:08 literature i i don't know much about
1:20:10 their theology and i know they're later
1:20:11 there's several centuries later but this
1:20:13 is um
1:20:14 you know it's it's something that and
1:20:16 the point to uh the reason why i asked
1:20:19 this point the reason why i make this
1:20:20 point is look
1:20:22 often as muslims uh we're somewhat
1:20:24 dismissive over the fact that
1:20:26 christianity presents or may make a
1:20:28 rather grotesque analogy here i'll do it
1:20:30 anyway localism as an attractive thing
1:20:32 on the outside surface because it looks
1:20:34 attractive but the way they sell it is
1:20:36 that you know jesus loves you god loves
1:20:38 you so much loves you so much that he
1:20:40 you know he sacrificed for himself but
1:20:42 these these ideas are related
1:20:45 and have become i mean it's a big thing
1:20:47 you know it's it's it's a big thing and
1:20:48 you'll find you're emotionally very
1:20:50 appealing yeah
1:20:51 yeah because the problem is because you
1:20:52 don't have to do any work down right you
1:20:54 just believe that jesus died for you but
1:20:56 obviously
1:20:57 the catholics will be clearer they
1:20:59 actually i think they have a more
1:21:00 rational sense uh theology in the sense
1:21:02 well there's still purgatory or what we
1:21:03 would call hell you know there's
1:21:04 punishment for spin and such right and
1:21:06 there's abandonment and then obviously
1:21:07 it's linked to the church whereas the
1:21:09 other ones the the more popular the
1:21:10 evangelical baptist types will be saying
1:21:13 look if yours if your salvation is true
1:21:15 then your actions would indicate that
1:21:18 it's more
1:21:19 actually if you look at it it's kind of
1:21:20 some ways a bit more closer to
1:21:21 archaeology type thing if you iman is
1:21:23 poor pure then you wouldn't sin
1:21:25 so there must be something wrong with
1:21:26 your federal sort of thing right so i
1:21:28 just wanted you to comment a little bit
1:21:30 more and expand on it because this is is
1:21:31 a key point
1:21:33 um but it's confusing in some ways
1:21:35 because you'll go to most christians so
1:21:37 if we're dealing with
1:21:39 evangelicals for them the the the
1:21:41 godhead or the trinity the trinity of
1:21:43 the godhead is not the main thing not to
1:21:44 say they don't believe in it they do
1:21:46 but for them it's salvation or uh
1:21:49 dying on the cross
1:21:50 yeah
1:21:51 yeah yeah it's it's the um yeah it's the
1:21:53 whole the whole the whole um
1:21:56 uh yeah salvific theory of of god
1:21:58 becoming a man today pay for the wages
1:22:00 of sin and death and all that business
1:22:02 yeah others
1:22:04 actually that the
1:22:06 the the two the two comes that the
1:22:08 divinity already semi divinity of christ
1:22:10 is actually advocated by paul who seems
1:22:13 to be having a background from mithraism
1:22:15 and so on under the
1:22:17 sacrificial bull etc possibly but anyway
1:22:20 the the the interpretation of
1:22:22 crucifixion it was not always uh uh it
1:22:25 seems you paul was more inclined to the
1:22:27 gnostic point of view that it is to to
1:22:30 to gain the world again from from the
1:22:32 hand of the devil to defeat the devil
1:22:34 somehow was not that he was not really
1:22:37 stressing maybe i should read again his
1:22:40 epistle especially the seven well
1:22:41 established ones it seems to be the that
1:22:44 is just to defeat the devil and save
1:22:46 humanity from the devils and rather than
1:22:49 the any initial sin or something like
1:22:51 that but this
1:22:53 this this became so grotesque in the
1:22:55 hand of uh marcion or macleon when he
1:22:58 claimed that even even
1:23:01 that in the second century he died 130
1:23:04 roughly
1:23:05 he developed the theory that
1:23:07 consistently that means that even the
1:23:09 old testament god is the devil
1:23:11 and the old testament is the revelation
1:23:12 of the devil the only divine revelation
1:23:14 real one is christ himself but that was
1:23:17 too much for for the majority and they
1:23:19 declared him to be a cover
1:23:21 quite understandably yeah yeah that's
1:23:23 one the other one would because this one
1:23:25 could not
1:23:27 stand any scrutiny because this means
1:23:29 the devil is equal in power to allah and
1:23:32 they needed such a as a major sacrifice
1:23:34 to relieve anyone from his hand and
1:23:36 that's obviously not acceptable for any
1:23:38 one of these religions dualism so that
1:23:40 has been abolished so then the theory
1:23:42 was done because the crucifixion has
1:23:44 been taken so what's the sense of that
1:23:47 such a noble man at least is not yet
1:23:49 divine
1:23:50 uh with such high rank is is suffering
1:23:53 that terribly is just to atone for the
1:23:55 initiative then the theory of initial
1:23:57 sin has been developed and the claim
1:23:59 that the death came to the world because
1:24:00 of racial sin all of that and
1:24:03 relying on the mythical purely mythical
1:24:05 claims of the old testament so genesis
1:24:08 is guilty partly in that
1:24:11 and that that seems to be more
1:24:13 acceptable
1:24:14 and then
1:24:20 augustine was forced to develop a very
1:24:22 odd theory of divine justice that allah
1:24:25 is even unable to forgive such a sin
1:24:28 without
1:24:29 some sacrifice must be done so the only
1:24:31 way he found out is to sacrifice his own
1:24:34 son or his own messenger
1:24:36 of the dimension what was the name
1:24:38 of augustine
1:24:40 augustine okay one when the most vicious
1:24:42 and more
1:24:45 strong brains of history one of the
1:24:47 biggest philosophers history as big as
1:24:48 krant and so on but he could not find
1:24:50 any
1:24:51 and by the way he was a questionable
1:24:53 parenthetical because he they call him
1:24:55 monarchic
1:24:57 the the the first person affinity
1:24:59 absorbs almost everything the others are
1:25:01 like faces of him not really entities or
1:25:04 persona in independent persona so he is
1:25:06 not his theory of trending is not a
1:25:08 standard one
1:25:10 so so that's so but what the the only
1:25:13 way he could save it
1:25:14 uh save the day so all of it is coming i
1:25:17 think all is coming from that making
1:25:19 sense after the crucifixion and simply
1:25:21 not accepting what luca for example says
1:25:25 they could they crucified a great
1:25:26 prophet of god he's just a murderer just
1:25:29 make him a martyr that's that's simple
1:25:30 they want
1:25:31 they want to accept that so
1:25:34 getting him out of the ring of humanity
1:25:36 and making him so big
1:25:37 that it's very difficult to accept that
1:25:39 he is a murderer like anybody else
1:25:41 and then developed father in stages
1:25:44 and in various discussion
1:25:47 the party of divinity won the day
1:25:49 because because paul was successful in
1:25:51 the gentiles
1:25:53 and the jerusalem church allowed him to
1:25:55 work with the gentiles and prohibited
1:25:57 him to talk to the jews they
1:25:58 concentrated on the jews because they
1:26:00 believed that the christ is a messenger
1:26:02 to iba islam only which is true
1:26:04 and then they thought we get rid of that
1:26:06 troublesome guy and his odd ideas let
1:26:08 him deal with the gentiles okay
1:26:10 no problem and also he is allowed to eat
1:26:13 big and what sacrifice to the idols okay
1:26:15 and he doesn't regard circumcision as
1:26:17 necessary i was okay and he was
1:26:19 attacking them as a circumcision party
1:26:21 so
1:26:22 a careful reading of paul shows the
1:26:24 initial conflict and by the way the
1:26:26 cheshire of rome by the way
1:26:28 is
1:26:28 according to the most tradition there
1:26:30 they accept is established by by peter
1:26:33 simon peter who is
1:26:39 of christ
1:26:41 yeah but i mean the thing is what you're
1:26:42 fighting about peter but he's mentioning
1:26:44 he says you're the there's that famous
1:26:46 goal isn't it yeah the one after him or
1:26:48 the second of time
1:26:50 Music
1:26:54 not believing in the divinity of christ
1:26:56 while the church is in in asia and so on
1:26:59 in the greek
1:27:00 okay and there were genuinely pagan
1:27:02 areas they were more paulie direction
1:27:05 jerusalem was marginalized and it was
1:27:07 extinct through history
1:27:09 by the scattering of the jews and so on
1:27:11 lost its cohesion and so on but all its
1:27:14 stories and history and the brother of
1:27:16 christ what they call james the less but
1:27:18 actually he's the major he was the
1:27:19 leader of the church
1:27:21 and he's the one who was killed and even
1:27:22 reported about his killing by using
1:27:24 foots
1:27:27 his historic his historic existence is
1:27:31 is testified even independently by jesus
1:27:33 that he was told by the jews and so on
1:27:35 yeah
1:27:37 that was covered up in history that no
1:27:38 only
1:27:39 is bringing that out especially part of
1:27:41 the coverage because this this this
1:27:44 this attack against uh
1:27:46 jakub the brother of christ
1:27:49 uh this attack and killing him is it was
1:27:51 a result of the uh uh
1:27:54 and fitna happening by paul insisting to
1:27:56 take someone who is not circumcised in
1:27:58 the temple
1:28:00 and that they confirmed the commotion
1:28:01 around that resulted in in
1:28:05 in in james jacob being being stoned
1:28:09 many many histories being covered up so
1:28:12 so the says now claimed that's developed
1:28:14 by the community and they were guided by
1:28:15 this holy spirit in in the nike and
1:28:17 conference and they were there but this
1:28:19 is all
1:28:20 claims which have no irrational the
1:28:22 foundation you have to go to the
1:28:24 original sources and see and build from
1:28:25 there it has to be rebuilt again the
1:28:28 best way is obviously what the quran did
1:28:30 if it even if the quran is from muhammad
1:28:33 the fact that he denies the crucifixion
1:28:35 is a master strike
1:28:37 that is someone else was crucified and
1:28:39 all evidence is point that is really
1:28:41 someone else but i'm still working on
1:28:43 that
1:28:44 completing it and connecting it with
1:28:46 with previous miracles and previous ends
1:28:48 in the life of christ himself
1:28:50 go to luke and all other gospels have
1:28:52 that except except
1:28:54 except
1:28:55 john uh go to the the sub they usually
1:28:58 they have headings added by hand no not
1:29:00 from part of the gaza go to the
1:29:02 so-called uh transfiguration
1:29:04 check the transfiguration or do a search
1:29:07 by the way transfigured in the english
1:29:10 then read the story of transfiguration
1:29:12 you will see really a preparation for
1:29:14 everyone for the transfiguration which
1:29:16 has happened and put the shape of israel
1:29:18 on judas and the shepherd
1:29:21 temporarily and
1:29:22 the whole translation is just a
1:29:24 preparation for this and preparation for
1:29:26 the reappearance of christ after that
1:29:28 not for resurrection it's not that it's
1:29:30 not in there but that's need to be
1:29:31 worked out more thoroughly i'm working
1:29:33 on that now since years adding a bit
1:29:36 here try finding the finding analysis
1:29:38 here finding correlation here and so on
1:29:41 but this is a complex area it's a
1:29:42 complicity
1:29:43 but it's worth doing it's worth doing
1:29:45 some effort there
1:30:01 inheritance because they will have many
1:30:02 questions in decent time about how come
1:30:05 that that
1:30:06 you need to do owl until you really
1:30:09 does not know how to do fractions no he
1:30:10 does but but the people made a mistake
1:30:13 that's it but i i'll keep that for as a
1:30:16 sweetener for next time i'll keep it
1:30:17 like
1:30:18 like
1:30:19 like a secret until you meet next time
1:30:29 Music
1:30:36 Music
1:31:06 is
1:31:09 Music
1:31:17 so
1:31:29 Music
1:31:39 you