REACTING TO DAVID WOOD CURSING JESUS (2018-08-07) ​

0:00:12 as-salaam alaikum warahmatullahi what i
0:00:15 care to and welcome to another episode
0:00:16 of the booth where we unpack very
0:00:19 important topics and we talk about
0:00:21 things which you need to know i'm here
0:00:23 joined by Aladar how you doing hola
0:00:27 and we're gonna be reacting to a
0:00:29 particular individual who has been
0:00:34 trying to attack Islam who all of his
0:00:37 life his stated objective in his power
0:00:39 his life was Bread on his table
0:00:41 it puts bread on his table I know we're
0:00:44 not talking about the far right in EDL
0:00:46 we're talking about another person
0:00:47 called David Wood okay right so let's
0:00:55 watch this we came across a video I just
0:00:57 came across it recently in fact is very
0:00:59 interesting because I saw him fumbling
0:01:00 all over the place and I want to see the
0:01:02 video we wanna react to Joel oh yeah of
0:01:04 course here we are and once we just just
0:01:06 make it very close well yeah as long as
0:01:09 well like the Christians are not the
0:01:10 same yes anybody religion yeah so this
0:01:14 guy is specifically force into the
0:01:16 category of those extremist Christians
0:01:18 who that's why I specifically wrote in
0:01:20 wood is because the issue is these kind
0:01:33 if you really can censor if someone's
0:01:34 you click on enemy you can choose ignore
0:01:36 him but the least of the least you can
0:01:37 do is call it a rotten wood you know
0:01:39 that's the least I think we know justice
0:01:41 yeah with the stuff that is done mocking
0:01:43 the religion all these kind of lies and
0:01:45 fabrications etc and also he is known to
0:01:48 some from Slovenia yeah and he's tried
0:01:51 to attempt if I'm not mistaken attempt
0:01:53 to kill his dad or his friend or
0:01:54 something I heard something so from what
0:01:56 I know and I'm not just saying this and
0:01:58 by the way I we're not saying that
0:01:59 there's anything wrong with yeah yes so
0:02:04 the thing is he suffers from that so the
0:02:05 issue is though when you suffer for
0:02:07 something like that and you have a
0:02:07 violent past and compress that cuz he
0:02:10 says okay Christian he changed his life
0:02:12 the thing is if
0:02:13 have a vile nature you're going to try
0:02:16 to distort it in different way so now is
0:02:18 done it shows Islam and folk I'm gonna
0:02:20 take all this anger out on Islam and
0:02:22 that's how I think what's going on here
0:02:23 pure hatred and whatever this what a
0:02:26 video that's actually quite profound if
0:02:28 you actually wore top right yeah yes
0:02:30 where do you okay Jesus peace be upon
0:02:37 him was crucified on a cross tree or
0:02:39 Paul in light of Deuteronomy chapter 21
0:02:42 verses 22 and 23 in Galatians chapter 3
0:02:45 verse 13 which states that whoever is
0:02:48 hung on a tree or pole or cross is
0:02:50 cursed thank you well I'd say you're
0:02:54 about that close to understanding the
0:02:56 gospel right because we know we know
0:03:00 Jesus is is righteous according to both
0:03:03 the Bible and the Quran Muhammad in the
0:03:07 hadith said that Satan touches everyone
0:03:10 who comes into the world that he
0:03:11 couldn't touch Jesus or his mother
0:03:12 everyone else Muhammad everyone Satan
0:03:15 could touch him but not Jesus and so
0:03:17 you're right how do how do we reconcile
0:03:20 our belief that Jesus was righteous with
0:03:23 the Old Testament claim that anyone
0:03:25 who's hung on a tree is cursed and it
0:03:29 seems that we would have to say that
0:03:31 Jesus was cursed in spite of being
0:03:34 righteous and that's exactly what that
0:03:37 what the gospel says right the one who
0:03:39 is without sin and became for us so yeah
0:03:45 if you if you if we if we left those
0:03:47 things out and you would wonder oh it
0:03:49 was Jesus cursed well Jesus was
0:03:51 righteous and yet he was cursed and
0:03:53 noticed he was hung on a tree
0:03:55 according to shibir as well so he's
0:03:58 under a curse according to both views on
0:04:02 the stage tonight
0:04:03 and so and so if Jesus was under a curse
0:04:08 well what do we do there in in
0:04:11 Christianity he's under a curse for a
0:04:13 reason right he's under a curse for a
0:04:14 reason because he's becoming a curse for
0:04:17 us right so that we can be forgiven as
0:04:20 far as other interpretations I guess
0:04:23 he's a he's under a curse because he was
0:04:25 hung on a tree but
0:04:27 I join watch all the way through this is
0:04:29 actually mad stuffy I'm nervous keep
0:04:31 watching I think this is really
0:04:32 important I don't know she beers about
0:04:34 to answer so he can explain what what he
0:04:36 would think about Jesus being hung on
0:04:40 the tree I agree that Jesus was
0:04:43 righteous bro he sounded this is how he
0:04:47 sounded to me yeah it sounded like going
0:04:49 to a drunk guy and just asking him about
0:04:52 this he sounds like he's either imagine
0:04:54 you got a jungle meetup explained to me
0:04:56 for example how does the universe of
0:05:00 friends on some question and he starts
0:05:01 saying oh you know apples and bananas
0:05:03 and I went home in the microwave
0:05:04 exploded anything what they talking and
0:05:06 then and I was walking I fell down and
0:05:08 there was a blue dog what the hell are
0:05:10 you talking about
0:05:11 he seems that he's all over the place
0:05:12 simply does not have an answer and how
0:05:14 many times he was a man doesn't have an
0:05:16 answer for the question completely
0:05:21 written this guy is an intelligent guy
0:05:22 why not yeah he's not he's an
0:05:24 intelligent guy is not do you know you
0:05:28 can reason yeah you can really concern
0:05:30 Teresa it's not
0:05:31 oh he's not ignoramus in that yeah you
0:05:34 know I think the PhD as well I've done
0:05:36 research so he's either it's a living
0:05:38 guy okay so he's gone to that level of
0:05:40 academia so obviously you can reason
0:05:41 yeah if that's the case I mean this is
0:05:45 not a matter of his intelligence Joe
0:05:47 this is a Meryl
0:05:47 trying to square a circle yes I'm a
0:05:50 square a circle look it's gonna happen
0:05:51 you can't have your cake and eat it yeah
0:05:54 so here at the same time you've got
0:05:56 Jesus Christ yeah who on one part of the
0:06:00 Gospels that says that like a Galatians
0:06:02 extend you draw me that someone who's on
0:06:04 a cross is cursed Jesus Christ is meant
0:06:06 to have been a not cross therefore Jesus
0:06:08 Christ is cursed but also Jesus Christ
0:06:10 is known as God so God is cursed
0:06:15 you see the problem with this in DC one
0:06:17 thing we see about wrong would here yes
0:06:19 is that he always a Texas nun yes so now
0:06:22 one thing that does it feels to me that
0:06:23 and on his channel you I've hardly seen
0:06:26 him and not that I watch it but talking
0:06:29 about Christianity like he doesn't it's
0:06:31 always main focus is attacking Islam
0:06:33 yeah but one thing he fails to realize
0:06:35 and I'm talking about Christians like
0:06:36 him because Christians are good people
0:06:38 so that's why when I'm talking this
0:06:39 business when I say rotten wood I'm
0:06:40 talking about him
0:06:41 specifically as you know I believe he's
0:06:43 an evil Christian yeah yeah sadly he
0:06:46 fails to realize that this doctrine
0:06:50 Christianity with Islam it's all about
0:06:53 subjective okay the Prophet did this
0:06:55 maybe okay but this is all subjective
0:06:58 because right now our main objective of
0:07:00 sanam is to be constructed suppose ideas
0:07:03 why do we do that because everybody that
0:07:05 comes and these people who are using
0:07:06 these arguments they use it on the basis
0:07:08 of cloud judgment or some mess no no
0:07:10 you're onto something because what
0:07:11 you're saying is this is you're saying
0:07:13 that Christianity or what we mean by
0:07:15 Christianity is to be complete specific
0:07:16 is important I see in Christianity all
0:07:18 the Nicene Creed the Trinitarian
0:07:20 Christianity the ones which you know are
0:07:22 formulated in the seven ecumenical
0:07:23 councils this Christian getting it's
0:07:26 particularly contradictory as it comes
0:07:28 as it relates to theology yes sir the
0:07:31 fact that the father is God the Son is
0:07:33 God the Holy Spirit is God yet they're
0:07:35 all one God
0:07:36 yeah the old independent body of the
0:07:37 same time is in contradiction isn't as a
0:07:40 problem from the root so that's a root
0:07:43 problem and those final issue and the
0:07:45 only way Christians because they're
0:07:46 losing the audience let's be completely
0:07:47 fine yes all studies have shown yeah
0:07:49 most studies have shown and even like
0:07:51 peer research look at the senses in this
0:07:53 country the you techniques in 2001
0:07:55 yeah okay there's 75 percent Christians
0:07:57 in 2011 yeah 54 percent on 50 something
0:07:59 percent so it was a 20% decrease in the
0:08:02 apostasy and Christianity is Bram pant
0:08:05 yes
0:08:05 so the strategy has to be as follows I
0:08:08 mean they know that if they try and
0:08:09 promote
0:08:10 trinitarianism yeah that has been the
0:08:12 worst strategy in terms of proselytizing
0:08:14 and sighs is completely the worst right
0:08:17 so hey they've had to do another
0:08:19 strategy which is let's attack another
0:08:20 religion which is the main competitor in
0:08:22 this case let's attack Islam because we
0:08:24 can't promote our own religion let's try
0:08:27 and attack the main competitor therefore
0:08:29 and yeah we'll get the customers through
0:08:31 that way exactly this is what exactly
0:08:32 Shaitaan fell into because the matter is
0:08:34 that hmm he was doing to help and he
0:08:36 said look I'm going down yes I'm gonna
0:08:38 take as much people down with me and
0:08:39 this is exactly what's happening because
0:08:40 they're thinking okay control do we have
0:08:42 a root problem yet yeah this is a
0:08:45 problem right so they think okay this is
0:08:48 a big problem we kind of become and this
0:08:49 F&E we're just sorry for him Sophia no
0:08:51 it's not you can tell Elijah saw what
0:08:54 you were saying is the root
0:08:55 because if you consider it like
0:08:56 analogous to a tree right you have the
0:08:58 roots of a tree in the branch of Leeds
0:08:59 all he's doing is you'll never I don't
0:09:01 know you'll never see him really
0:09:03 spending time yes I've not seen once
0:09:06 again but you'll never see him yeah
0:09:08 spending time trying to dismiss the idea
0:09:11 of one tell hate the main the
0:09:13 centerpiece of the cells of your mother
0:09:15 because why was it makes more sense than
0:09:18 his alternately of course that's the
0:09:20 reason why when it comes to Islam he's
0:09:22 looking at the movies and thinking it's
0:09:23 solid there's no point me banging my
0:09:25 head on it if it's not gonna move yeah
0:09:26 I'll bow to beliefs yeah yeah even
0:09:28 though I said before because I said it's
0:09:31 a cultural issue yes it's a quotation
0:09:33 and I'm so in understanding of
0:09:35 subjective understanding of certain
0:09:37 things so when they look every thinking
0:09:38 oh that's wrong it's wrong to your
0:09:40 subjective reasoning that's being cloudy
0:09:42 today with liberalism and feminism and
0:09:43 communism and all these kind of isn't
0:09:45 absolute so that's the reason why when
0:09:47 you look at for example the perfect
0:09:48 peace of mind marine I say oh excuse me
0:09:51 this is a new phenomena this did not
0:09:54 happen or interested in you these
0:09:55 arguments before this is something new
0:09:57 what does that show you it shows you
0:09:58 mister common problem that's why he goes
0:10:01 in a taxi what does he do he goes
0:10:02 missing on the theology he wouldn't
0:10:04 because our theology is um not to sound
0:10:06 arrogant this is the truth you can't
0:10:08 that's the reason why people accept this
0:10:10 thumb and that's why he goes and tries
0:10:12 to mock the Prophet do and doing that
0:10:14 absolutely
0:10:15 the main reason people leave
0:10:16 Christianity and join Islam which is
0:10:18 which and which happens by the reason is
0:10:20 because of this idea
0:10:21 I mean of not understanding the Trinity
0:10:24 understanding is a contradiction in
0:10:25 terms
0:10:25 it breaks the local tradition and then
0:10:27 realizing that the tawheed
0:10:29 top here which the idea of one God here
0:10:31 all these things is actually much more
0:10:33 secure and clear and there's no
0:10:35 contradiction so guys now it's time to
0:10:39 get serious because this man here has
0:10:40 dedicated his life to attack me Aslam
0:10:42 and in a sense we've dedicated our life
0:10:45 for the opposite reason and so I only
0:10:47 makes sense that we cross cross paths
0:10:49 I've already debated J Smith in the park
0:10:51 every debate is you know his friend and
0:10:54 his colleague Ian and I came with no
0:10:57 preparation I came with a pink vest yeah
0:10:59 terrible the point I'm making to you is
0:11:03 now I think the challenge has to be put
0:11:05 on the table since you've dedicated your
0:11:08 life for this
0:11:09 let's debate either you come to me or I
0:11:12 will come to you we should set a date to
0:11:16 debate because frankly it has to be done
0:11:19 now you could decide that okay this is
0:11:22 something I don't want to do well then
0:11:25 you'll be accused of the very thing you
0:11:26 accused others like zakir naik of doing
0:11:28 which is running away Rob rotten hood so
0:11:32 you're gonna have to take this challenge
0:11:34 and you can't escape the fact that we do
0:11:36 have a social media following
0:11:38 we do have Muslims watching and tuning
0:11:41 in to what we have to say there is no
0:11:43 reason for you to decline this challenge
0:11:46 and there's every reason for you to
0:11:48 accept it so here this is a formal
0:11:52 invitation to the way get your gloves
0:11:56 get your mouth guard yeah I'm not
0:11:59 talking about physical ones in
0:12:02 proverbially get your intellectual
0:12:05 gloves and get your intellectual mouth
0:12:06 guard because let us really discuss one
0:12:10 of the foundational issues because this
0:12:13 is what we're accusing you're running
0:12:14 away from let's not talk about
0:12:16 peripheral tertiary matters yeah if you
0:12:19 really are not fearful and you are
0:12:21 completely honest to yourself and others
0:12:23 you believe Christianity is the truth
0:12:25 and you believe that the idea of that
0:12:27 three and one and one and three is a
0:12:29 true concept and you're willing to put
0:12:30 your life on the line for that let's
0:12:33 debate the Trinity or alternatively you
0:12:38 can debate the Bible and its
0:12:40 preservation comparative to the chronic
0:12:42 preservation whatever the debate we're
0:12:45 ready for you David look or absolutely
0:12:47 be ready because we're absolutely sure
0:12:49 that when truth is held against
0:12:53 falsehood how false with perishes
0:12:56 because falsehood is by its nature bound
0:12:58 to perish Ali yeah anything you want to
0:13:01 know this is amazing also just to keep
0:13:03 in mind that also I'm sorry sure these
0:13:06 misconceptions
0:13:06 yes regular basis so if you can keep an
0:13:08 eye on that it's called it's going to be
0:13:10 called the white piles okay it's going
0:13:11 to be actually the ywh why so that will
0:13:14 deal with all the things all the things
0:13:15 that is kind of person his friend
0:13:19 are going up online user misconceptions
0:13:21 of the problems so we'll deal with the
0:13:22 tertiary from our sources Alice or Tom
0:13:25 Dick Harry or rotten wood so you're
0:13:28 saying that with those two issues with
0:13:30 those peripheral issues yes we'll deal
0:13:32 with those as well
0:13:32 one by one one by one by one but what
0:13:35 you're saying is what I'm saying is
0:13:38 let's debate on fundamental issues if he
0:13:43 says no then no you know for sure that
0:13:46 this man is I don't know yes after what
0:13:49 I've seen there yeah it's been
0:13:50 humiliated on that note make sure you
0:13:56 guys obviously tune in for the next
0:13:57 episode of the booth we're going to be
0:13:59 taking these guys out one by one as we
0:14:02 are alhamdulillah put the flag there
0:14:04 let's take over come by joking but celeb
0:14:07 Ollie can want to layer again
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