ST#67: Problematic Hadiths Case Study - Part 3 | Sh. Anwar Arafat (2022-09-11) ​

0:00:00 foreign
0:00:15 thoughts where we discuss the
0:00:18 philosophical issues we answer some of
0:00:20 the contentions that are brought against
0:00:21 Islam and we offer a robust case for the
0:00:24 veracity and beauty of Islam as a way of
0:00:26 life
0:00:27 my name is and today we are continuing
0:00:30 our problematic Hadith
0:00:34 and applying our toolkit and
0:00:36 understanding it inshallah we are on
0:00:38 tool number five with our problem like
0:00:40 Hadith remember the problematic Hadith
0:00:42 seems to indicate that women are
0:00:46 deficient in their intelligence
0:00:47 deficient in their minds and deficient
0:00:49 in their religion does it actually do
0:00:52 that this is what we're finding out
0:00:54 uh tool number five and Tool number five
0:00:56 is access to the books that actually
0:01:01 explain the Hadith right and we did this
0:01:04 I have a whole paper where you can
0:01:06 access it in shalatara online I
0:01:09 consulted over a dozen classical books
0:01:13 of shuru that actually go over this
0:01:15 because this Hadith appears in many
0:01:17 books of Hadith and so any will actually
0:01:19 explain it we'll go through it
0:01:22 and that's something that we did and it
0:01:24 helps obviously give that understanding
0:01:26 now that is a classical understanding
0:01:29 remember our sincerity to the religion
0:01:31 our sincerity of playing tool number one
0:01:33 is also realizing that classically what
0:01:37 was important to them isn't necessarily
0:01:39 what's important to us
0:01:41 some Scholars problematize this Hadith
0:01:43 classically some did not now a person
0:01:46 might say hey wait a second those who
0:01:47 did not does that mean that they're
0:01:49 biased against women does that mean that
0:01:50 they have an issue Etc no not
0:01:52 necessarily remember they had their own
0:01:54 issues that they were dealing with in
0:01:55 their own lens their own Paradigm the
0:01:57 world was very different we can apply
0:01:59 that by the way to almost any era to
0:02:02 almost any
0:02:04 um geographical place as well in the
0:02:05 west if I looked a thousand years ago
0:02:07 what were their comments on women I
0:02:09 would be shocked and surprised and yet
0:02:11 in some ways
0:02:12 there might be some wisdom to be taken
0:02:14 from some of their writings as well it's
0:02:16 not that I completely write them off
0:02:17 because they don't see the world as I do
0:02:20 I have to put them in their place and
0:02:22 understand that as well some of the
0:02:23 books of by the way the books that
0:02:25 explain the Hadith some of them don't
0:02:28 even come across the issue of the
0:02:30 deficiency they don't even address it
0:02:32 because they're not interested in it
0:02:34 from that perspective they're interested
0:02:35 in the rulings that apply for the Muslim
0:02:39 to apply in their life so for example in
0:02:43 bukhari itself this Hadith appears three
0:02:46 different times one time it appears in
0:02:49 the book of menstruation because of its
0:02:54 comment on Menses where it makes that
0:02:58 Proclamation that a woman if she's on
0:03:00 her menstrual cycle she does not pray
0:03:03 she does not fast perfect so that's why
0:03:05 he put it in that chapter so many of the
0:03:07 many of the explanations are going to
0:03:10 tackle the Hadith from that perspective
0:03:11 because they're already on that chapter
0:03:13 they're not going to address the whole
0:03:15 other theological issues that are in it
0:03:17 this is why a person might access some
0:03:19 of these books and be like hey wait a
0:03:20 second he's not even talking about this
0:03:21 and that's actually correct in the
0:03:24 second chapter that it appears it
0:03:26 appears in the book of zakah and it's
0:03:28 because there's an added section where
0:03:31 after the prophet because remember the
0:03:32 whole beginning of the Hadith is where
0:03:34 the prophetam is actually encouraging
0:03:35 them to donate to give and so a woman
0:03:37 comes to the prophet salallahu and she
0:03:40 says can I give my husband charity and
0:03:43 so
0:03:44 he says yes etc etc and so she because
0:03:47 of her question is asking about charity
0:03:49 the scholars will discuss that whole
0:03:51 issue of can a wife give her husband
0:03:54 charity if she's wealthier than he is
0:03:56 and that's a whole other subject for
0:03:58 another day inshallah right so depending
0:04:00 on where the scholar put it he obviously
0:04:03 has a point because he wants people to
0:04:05 understand something a ruling etc etc so
0:04:07 I have to realize that that not
0:04:08 everybody is going to have the same
0:04:09 problems that I have what we
0:04:11 problematize now is not what people
0:04:13 problematize a long time ago
0:04:15 that's not necessarily a bad thing we
0:04:18 don't automatically write them off
0:04:19 because they don't share the passions
0:04:21 that we do right everybody has their
0:04:24 historical place so that's number five
0:04:26 number six tool number six
0:04:29 is checking authenticity
0:04:32 and as we said If a person is paying you
0:04:34 know what I mean attention to this and
0:04:35 knows this since we said it's Muslim
0:04:38 both of these this is of the highest
0:04:41 degrees of authenticity outside of these
0:04:43 books it appears
0:04:47 it also a version of it appears
0:04:51 and in fact the version of the helps us
0:04:54 understand it even more even though the
0:04:56 version of the of Imam does not contain
0:05:00 this problematic phrase which is that
0:05:02 they are deficient in their intellect
0:05:04 deficient in religion it has the first
0:05:06 part where he's encouraging them to give
0:05:08 and that they can constituted a majority
0:05:11 of the people of the Hellfire meaning
0:05:12 women
0:05:12 five different companions have narrated
0:05:15 this Hadith so many unique Chains It's
0:05:18 almost impossible from a Hadith
0:05:19 perspective to put any flaw on this
0:05:22 Hadith so that we know that it's
0:05:23 completely authentic but this is a step
0:05:25 that a person can do if I come across a
0:05:27 problematic Hadith and I realize it's
0:05:28 weak and it goes against a lot of what I
0:05:30 don't understand about Islam that I can
0:05:32 write it off I know that this probably
0:05:34 isn't true but remember it's
0:05:35 probabilistic in nature when I look at
0:05:38 this and I see hey wait a second the
0:05:40 prophetam is saying this checking
0:05:41 authenticity is something that a person
0:05:43 should do however in this case it's
0:05:45 completely authentic now
0:05:47 there are people remember we said
0:05:50 that their bias might cause them to
0:05:53 write off Hadith in its entirety because
0:05:56 of one or two problematic how did they
0:05:58 come across because they don't like them
0:05:59 or doesn't agree with their own Paradigm
0:06:01 their own worldview
0:06:03 now while understanding that they have a
0:06:05 problem and I completely understand this
0:06:06 in fact this is why we're doing this to
0:06:08 just write off Hadith in its entirety
0:06:10 because I don't like it is incorrect and
0:06:13 it's not
0:06:15 a stable or sound method because writing
0:06:18 off Hadith in its entirety introduces a
0:06:21 hundred more problems thousands of more
0:06:24 problems
0:06:25 then we're solving I might solve like in
0:06:28 this case oh if I just say well I don't
0:06:30 believe in Hadith anyways so there's no
0:06:32 issue women are not deficient in their
0:06:33 intellect and intelligence yeah but now
0:06:35 I've introduced so many new problems
0:06:38 it's not even worth it it's not even
0:06:39 practical or pragmatic or wise and so
0:06:44 we have to realize that
0:06:46 it is authentic now we have to face it
0:06:48 we have to deal with it and these are
0:06:50 where some of the challenges come in for
0:06:52 some people
0:06:53 tool number seven
0:06:55 is understanding the makasud which is
0:06:58 there are goals of the Hadith there are
0:07:00 goals of legislation there's goals even
0:07:02 within the Quran itself
0:07:05 there's wisdom in everything is the
0:07:07 prophet saws trying to say something he
0:07:09 is
0:07:10 what is that so let's look into it and
0:07:13 we can do this by the way we can apply
0:07:15 it and inshallah we will when we do the
0:07:16 reread but I want to mention that tool
0:07:18 here that
0:07:19 if I know that even if I don't
0:07:22 understand the Hadith or
0:07:24 I can at least acknowledge okay this is
0:07:26 somewhat problematic I can at least say
0:07:28 you know I don't understand but I do
0:07:29 know that I trust the prophet saws
0:07:32 and I trust his wisdom maybe there's
0:07:35 something behind what he's saying
0:07:36 there's not a problem saying I don't
0:07:39 know there's not a problem in saying
0:07:40 this isn't clear there is a problem in
0:07:42 saying you know what I don't understand
0:07:43 this I'm just going to throw it out
0:07:45 we that's why we need patience right so
0:07:48 saying I don't know investigating
0:07:50 further I think this is one of the best
0:07:52 courses that a Muslim can actually apply
0:07:54 number eight and number nine are both
0:07:56 related meaning understanding the
0:07:58 historical context and the context
0:07:59 within the other narrations okay
0:08:01 historical context
0:08:04 tells us that most of the versions does
0:08:07 not mention that there was Aid or there
0:08:09 was a but in some of them the ones in
0:08:11 bukhari
0:08:14 mentioned that there was a the prophetam
0:08:17 gave a sermon and that there was a
0:08:19 congregation people gathered now the
0:08:21 version of bukhari the narrator says it
0:08:24 was either
0:08:25 he's not sure
0:08:27 the version in what thought he actually
0:08:29 says it was during the solar eclipse
0:08:34 now there's certainty he says it was
0:08:37 during the eclipse we had the prayer and
0:08:40 after the prayer he gave now you don't
0:08:42 have to give a after the eclipse prayer
0:08:44 but he did because people had gathered
0:08:46 and he wanted to encourage them to
0:08:48 actually give donate etc etc which is
0:08:50 what we should be doing during the
0:08:51 eclipse prayer this makes a lot of sense
0:08:53 now because if it's during AIDS Aid is
0:08:55 usually a joyous Affair Etc and he would
0:08:58 give the women their own sermon Etc but
0:09:00 he would encourage them to do good and
0:09:01 what not but in this one in this case he
0:09:04 seems very concerned plus the wording
0:09:08 even though it mentions that it could be
0:09:10 Aid actually alludes to the eclipse
0:09:13 prayer why he says I have been shown
0:09:16 that you were a majority of the people
0:09:18 of the Hellfire now pause and the
0:09:21 version of motla the prophet salallahu
0:09:24 while he's praying the eclipse prayer he
0:09:26 says while he is praying he said in
0:09:29 front of him Allah opened up like a
0:09:31 portal or whatever and he saw
0:09:34 Paradise in front of him and he saw from
0:09:37 its fruits and its trees so much so that
0:09:39 he says if I were to reach out with my
0:09:41 hand and grab the grapes he said I saw
0:09:44 some grapes and grabbed them and brought
0:09:46 them they would have remained here in
0:09:47 the Dunya and you would have eaten from
0:09:49 them forever they would have lasted
0:09:51 eternally because the paradise is
0:09:54 eternal and anything in it even if it's
0:09:56 taken outside is also Eternal he says
0:10:00 and then Allah removed that and then he
0:10:02 showed him the Hellfire and it
0:10:04 frightened him so much so and he looked
0:10:06 and he saw a lot of women inside
0:10:09 this is where he became concerned this
0:10:11 is why after the Salah finished Etc he
0:10:13 gave a general sermon and he went to the
0:10:15 women specifically to remind them
0:10:19 this is where when we have this
0:10:21 inter-contextual
0:10:23 or intra-contextual analysis it actually
0:10:26 makes a lot of sense he just saw this
0:10:29 and now he wants to share that whatever
0:10:31 he saw with the women that were there
0:10:33 that were present so he goes over to
0:10:35 them why specifically the women he was
0:10:38 telling them look you know the reality
0:10:39 is a lot of women
0:10:41 especially when it comes to donating
0:10:43 money
0:10:44 they rely on their husbands and not on
0:10:45 themselves because there are also many
0:10:47 of them rely on their husbands for their
0:10:48 financial upkeep and whatnot and and and
0:10:51 maintenance
0:10:54 but they also rely on their husbands for
0:10:56 their Good Deeds financially and so he
0:10:59 says the first thing that says o women
0:11:02 you need to give charity
0:11:05 a lot of women don't give their own
0:11:06 charity this is what he said and by the
0:11:08 way this is a problem that we still have
0:11:09 today when we do fundraisers
0:11:13 unfortunately the majority of the people
0:11:15 who donate our men and not necessarily
0:11:16 women this doesn't mean that women don't
0:11:17 have their own money but they assume
0:11:19 that oh my husband will give for us
0:11:20 that's true the husband will give for
0:11:22 you but you have your own Deeds to to to
0:11:24 to to get as well don't wait for your
0:11:27 husband and this is basically what he's
0:11:28 saying
0:11:30 and then he says I I saw that you made a
0:11:32 majority of the people of the Hellfire
0:11:33 he was worried for them he's not stating
0:11:36 a fact he's trying to make it so that
0:11:38 that's not the case meaning that isn't
0:11:42 necessarily set in stone number one
0:11:43 number two even if it is women make a
0:11:46 majority of humankind anyways so taking
0:11:49 tool number eight and Tool number nine
0:11:50 we can see that now we're adding a lot
0:11:52 of context to what's going on we
0:11:54 understand it a little bit better step
0:11:55 number 10 is the next one that we will
0:11:58 do inshallah when we'll come back for
0:11:59 the next episode inshallah