Palestine/"Israel" Conflict, Historical Context (2021-05-14) #

0:00:02 we are witnessing some monstrous acts
0:00:04 being committed at the hands of the
0:00:05 israeli authorities
0:00:07 against civilian palestinians in
0:00:11 region and this is not something new
0:00:14 this is not something new that we are
0:00:16 witnessing we have witnessed this for
0:00:18 decades
0:00:19 since the advent of the so-called state
0:00:21 of israel in 1948 in may 1948
0:00:25 and that is simply because that state
0:00:27 has had an agenda
0:00:29 which has been uncovered now by
0:00:31 historians like ilan pape
0:00:34 and others like norman finkelstein who
0:00:36 have written extensively on these issues
0:00:39 whereby israeli authorities have been
0:00:43 exposed
0:00:44 for trying to ethnically cleanse
0:00:47 the areas of palestine from the arab
0:00:50 peoples
0:00:51 this is their agenda and why and how do
0:00:54 we know that
0:00:55 we know that from the records we know
0:00:58 that from
0:00:58 the days in which the very early state
0:01:01 of israel had plans
0:01:03 like plan elif and plan bet
0:01:07 and plan gimmel and not to forget the
0:01:10 most important
0:01:12 and severe of them all plan dalit
0:01:16 which explicitly mentions the intention
0:01:19 of the israeli government
0:01:21 or the israeli authorities to try and
0:01:24 dispose
0:01:24 of the land of trying to get rid of
0:01:28 quite frankly as many of the
0:01:30 palestinians as possible and they're
0:01:32 very
0:01:33 clear about those objectives only
0:01:34 someone who is
0:01:36 deluding themselves and who doesn't know
0:01:39 history
0:01:40 would pretend that that is not happening
0:01:43 in that area
0:01:44 as i've mentioned historians now look at
0:01:47 these
0:01:47 records like planned dalet and have
0:01:50 concluded
0:01:52 that this was the intention and is the
0:01:54 intention of the israeli authorities all
0:01:56 along
0:01:57 and if you look at what's been happening
0:02:00 from 1948
0:02:02 to this day you'll find that the
0:02:05 palestinian territories
0:02:07 have been shrinking in size in terms of
0:02:10 geographic location demography
0:02:14 and other things the question is what is
0:02:17 fueling
0:02:18 this conflict it's important that we
0:02:20 have the right diagnostic
0:02:22 to this so that we don't make rash
0:02:25 and hasty or generalized
0:02:28 or otherwise irresponsible judgments
0:02:32 as to why what is happening is happening
0:02:35 i want to submit to you today that what
0:02:36 is happening is happening not because of
0:02:38 religion
0:02:41 it's not because muslims hate jews or
0:02:44 jews hate muslims
0:02:45 or muslims cannot tolerate jews or jews
0:02:48 cannot tolerate muslims
0:02:50 or indeed because that within the
0:02:52 theological systems
0:02:53 of islam and or judaism there is a lack
0:02:57 of tolerance towards the other
0:03:00 and there are many things which can
0:03:01 prove this both contemporary
0:03:03 if you think about the last maybe 100
0:03:05 years
0:03:07 and medieval if you look at the
0:03:10 broad stroke historical trends that have
0:03:13 taken place
0:03:14 in many different countries in the last
0:03:17 thousand four hundred
0:03:18 and forty four years of islamic history
0:03:20 so let's go over some of those things
0:03:22 first because it's important
0:03:23 people are saying what should we do and
0:03:25 what is the solution
0:03:27 the first part of the solution is to be
0:03:30 educated about this topic
0:03:32 after one is educated about this topic
0:03:35 one can
0:03:36 have conversations based on knowledge
0:03:39 which can have a narrative
0:03:41 influencing effect both in the public
0:03:43 sphere and in private
0:03:44 circles that's the first thing and it's
0:03:48 always the case with the muslim
0:03:50 that at least from our perspective
0:03:53 everything should start with the pen
0:03:54 as allah the first thing that was
0:03:57 revealed
0:03:58 in the quran
0:04:07 who created who created who created the
0:04:11 human being from clubs
0:04:17 [Music]
0:04:22 and your lord is the most generous the
0:04:24 one who taught
0:04:26 with the pen with the pen so everything
0:04:29 must start
0:04:31 with knowledge and the pen even
0:04:34 islamic theology
0:04:40 know that it's everything starts
0:04:43 with knowledge so how do we
0:04:47 show how do we show
0:04:50 and prove that actually it's not a
0:04:52 religious tension
0:04:54 if you look at the history of muslims
0:04:56 and jews
0:04:58 starting with the conquest of jerusalem
0:05:01 in 638
0:05:02 by ahmad even someone
0:05:05 like michael sir michael gilbert who i
0:05:08 will link his article is a very short
0:05:11 brief and important read
0:05:15 read this article it's an incredibly
0:05:16 important article it's not written by a
0:05:18 muslim for propaganda purposes or
0:05:20 anything like this
0:05:21 by a british historian of the highest
0:05:23 eminence
0:05:25 the account that he gives and the
0:05:27 account that even someone like thomas
0:05:29 walker arnold
0:05:30 who is an orientalist gives in his the
0:05:33 preaching of islam a book an orientalist
0:05:35 book
0:05:37 some decades many decades ago and many
0:05:40 other people
0:05:41 give even bernard lewis who was one of
0:05:44 the most ardent and polemical people
0:05:46 against islam
0:05:47 and the islamic civilization all of
0:05:50 those people admit
0:05:52 that in fact that in fact there was a
0:05:56 there was an air of tolerance there was
0:05:58 an air of tolerance
0:06:00 and when um he came he allowed the jews
0:06:04 to settle back into jerusalem
0:06:06 and for those who know ancient history
0:06:08 will know that there was something
0:06:10 called the siege of jerusalem in 70 a.d
0:06:13 where the jews were literally kicked out
0:06:15 of their homes
0:06:17 at the hands of the romans you see how
0:06:19 subhanallah how history repeats itself
0:06:21 but now the perpetrators have become the
0:06:23 victims
0:06:24 and the victims have become the
0:06:26 perpetrators
0:06:28 the the perpetrators have become the
0:06:30 victims and the victims have become the
0:06:32 perpetrators
0:06:33 now it's not the roman empire kicking
0:06:35 out the jews from judea
0:06:37 now it's the opposite now it's the jews
0:06:39 kicking out the muslims from palestine
0:06:41 the original inhabitants but let that be
0:06:43 a side note for now
0:06:46 638 you had peaceful collaboration
0:06:49 you had a system where muslims
0:06:53 christians and jews all lived
0:06:54 side by side there was no
0:06:58 genocide no one has said this and in
0:07:01 fact this would be an a historical claim
0:07:03 that you cannot even make
0:07:04 you cannot make this claim there was no
0:07:06 for forced
0:07:08 religious uh conversion
0:07:11 even thomas walker arnold mentions this
0:07:13 in his book
0:07:16 there was giving to the jews
0:07:19 and to christians and to other
0:07:21 communities
0:07:23 a right to basically rule by what they
0:07:26 believe in
0:07:27 and this is extremely explicit in the
0:07:30 islamic texts
0:07:32 then you had then you had different
0:07:35 empires
0:07:36 and we can't go through a thousand four
0:07:37 hundred years of empires but
0:07:40 suffice it for me to say today that when
0:07:42 you had conviventia
0:07:44 convavencia in spain
0:07:48 in spain which basically means a
0:07:50 collaboration between jews christians
0:07:52 and muslims and
0:07:53 coexistence so much so that in 1492
0:07:59 when the expulsion of the muslims and
0:08:01 jews took place and the inquisition took
0:08:03 place
0:08:04 jewish people and gilbert sir michael
0:08:07 gilbert talks about this in his article
0:08:08 which you must read
0:08:10 jewish people ran to the ottoman empire
0:08:13 for safe haven
0:08:14 they ran to the muslims for say and what
0:08:16 did the ottomans do did they
0:08:18 kill them did they enslave them no they
0:08:20 did not
0:08:21 that is a historical they gave them a
0:08:23 space to worship
0:08:26 to believe and so on and before the
0:08:29 ottomans even
0:08:30 the spanish empire in the spanish
0:08:32 inhabited
0:08:33 muslim area or areas
0:08:36 you find that some of the greatest
0:08:39 jewish thinkers of all time
0:08:41 like musa bin mahyun maimonides existed
0:08:45 and he produced his best works under
0:08:47 muslims in fact
0:08:49 the enlightenment of the jews the golden
0:08:52 age of jewish
0:08:54 of the jury took place under muslim rule
0:08:59 it took place under muslim rule
0:09:03 so one cannot say
0:09:07 that in fact this is that the muslims
0:09:10 and jews had this
0:09:11 horrible relationship yes of course
0:09:14 there were times when muslims and jews
0:09:15 went to war
0:09:17 but that was i will i will put to you
0:09:20 that
0:09:20 was the historical exception and not the
0:09:23 rule
0:09:24 the rule was for hundreds of years
0:09:26 muslims had protected jewish people
0:09:30 so much so that someone like bernard
0:09:33 lewis
0:09:34 who gilbert mentions in his article
0:09:36 which i'll put down
0:09:37 someone like bernard lewis freely admits
0:09:40 and he is
0:09:41 as i mentioned a polemic against islam
0:09:43 and islamic civilization
0:09:44 that something to this effect that i'm
0:09:46 paraphrasing but the best time
0:09:50 in the uh the best time
0:09:53 in the in the muslim empire didn't
0:09:55 amount to the worst time in the
0:09:56 christian empire in other words
0:09:58 the the jews under the muslim
0:10:02 under muslim rule were not persecuted
0:10:05 in any way shape or form comparable to
0:10:08 that which happened in christian
0:10:10 rule with the spanish inquisition
0:10:14 and with the hitler with the pogroms
0:10:19 and so many other events that we can
0:10:21 cite
0:10:22 no such events equivalent to that
0:10:24 existed in the muslim world
0:10:26 at all according to bernard lewis and
0:10:28 this is mentioned by
0:10:29 sir michael gilbert so when did this
0:10:33 hostility start taking place
0:10:36 when did really the war start to
0:10:38 proliferate
0:10:40 and the hatred started to become
0:10:43 apparent to the degree
0:10:46 to which it is now sir michael gilbert
0:10:51 says that in fact this took place at the
0:10:54 advent of
0:10:55 zionism and this is a view widely
0:10:58 accepted among historians
0:11:02 if you look at the recent past if you
0:11:05 look at the recent past
0:11:07 you had of and obviously these things
0:11:09 require
0:11:10 lectures in their own but i will
0:11:12 passively talk about this and you can go
0:11:14 research in your time but you had the
0:11:15 balfour
0:11:16 declaration 1917 where
0:11:19 britain promised
0:11:23 the jewish people or the zionists at
0:11:26 that time
0:11:27 that they will facilitate for them a
0:11:29 homeland
0:11:30 in palestine and bear in mind britain
0:11:33 didn't have a mandate for palestine
0:11:35 in 1917 the war was still going on world
0:11:38 war one was still going on at that time
0:11:40 and so they had a mandate for they had a
0:11:43 mandate for
0:11:44 palestine in 1920 and from the years of
0:11:47 1920 to 1948
0:11:49 there was a struggle within where there
0:11:52 was a struggle within
0:11:54 palestine so much so
0:11:58 that what happened is in the 30s in
0:12:02 particular
0:12:02 in the 30s in particular you had
0:12:04 something called the arab revolt in 1936
0:12:07 which took place because of an
0:12:09 increasing
0:12:10 jewish immigration obviously you will
0:12:13 know if you know german history as well
0:12:15 if you study it gcses or whatever
0:12:18 that hitler became chancellor of the
0:12:19 exchequer in the early 30s 1933
0:12:23 and the nuremberg laws took place in
0:12:25 1934.
0:12:27 so in 1934 is when the nuremberg
0:12:29 starting to take place
0:12:30 that's where you find so many jews like
0:12:33 to come from germany but not just
0:12:34 germany
0:12:35 from poland and from russia and
0:12:36 different parts of the european world
0:12:39 and they were coming and overflowing
0:12:43 overflowing a country with very small
0:12:45 population which was at that time
0:12:46 palestine
0:12:47 and this culminated you could say in
0:12:50 what was referred to as the arab revolt
0:12:51 because
0:12:52 how can you bring all these people maybe
0:12:54 150
0:12:55 000 people according to huritz in his
0:12:57 book the struggle for palestine
0:13:00 he talks about and you can look at that
0:13:02 book because it's it's not even written
0:13:04 by
0:13:04 it's written by i think is mutual is a
0:13:06 jew himself
0:13:07 but it's a classic on this talks about
0:13:10 the fact that these people are coming in
0:13:11 in 30s early 30s
0:13:13 in swathes and overpopulating the
0:13:17 uh overpopulating palestine and then in
0:13:19 1939
0:13:20 i'm quickly going through this you had
0:13:23 the white paper
0:13:24 and you can go and research what that is
0:13:25 it's a particular paper that took place
0:13:27 uh that was written by the british
0:13:29 mandate which
0:13:31 which caused very much agony and
0:13:34 commotion
0:13:35 and then after that you had in 1940
0:13:38 the establishment of it of
0:13:41 the military win with the blessings by
0:13:44 the way and this is according to herod's
0:13:45 of will of winston churchill that now
0:13:48 they decide to have the hagganah and the
0:13:50 urgon
0:13:51 and the hagana was a paramilitary group
0:13:54 and this is the beginnings of the jewish
0:13:56 state if you really want to
0:13:57 pin it down it was when they had defense
0:14:00 systems in place
0:14:01 the hagener the hagen up
0:14:05 in the 1940s early 1940s
0:14:09 and the irg which are a terrorist
0:14:10 organization
0:14:12 now they started to defend themselves
0:14:14 and what they mean by that really
0:14:16 especially in the case of the argument
0:14:18 is commit terrorist heinous acts which
0:14:20 were recognized as terrorists
0:14:21 terroristic by almost everybody the
0:14:23 americans the british and everyone
0:14:24 because in fact and i mentioned this
0:14:26 quite often
0:14:28 it culminated probably one of the most
0:14:30 severe terrorist attacks in 1946
0:14:34 where these people the of gun
0:14:37 went into the king david hotel and
0:14:39 killed 91
0:14:40 people innocents innocent people they
0:14:43 went into a hotel in jerusalem in east
0:14:45 jerusalem and killed people
0:14:47 and you see they were rewarded for their
0:14:49 terrorism
0:14:50 by the british and the u.n two years
0:14:52 later by getting a state
0:14:54 in their name in 1948
0:14:58 and what a precedent to set
0:15:01 what a precedent to set they were
0:15:03 rewarded for their terrorism
0:15:05 because the ruling powers and the man
0:15:08 the british mandate and so on they had
0:15:09 enough of this
0:15:10 and so the case was referred to the un
0:15:12 and 1948 lo and behold
0:15:14 you have the state of israel and then
0:15:17 you have
0:15:18 of course the wars you have a 1948 war
0:15:23 and then you have the 1966 war and the
0:15:25 1966 wars with
0:15:27 egypt and other neighboring states like
0:15:29 jordan and so on
0:15:30 where they lost decisively
0:15:33 because obviously america had a hand in
0:15:35 that war and
0:15:36 they were not prepared and they had arab
0:15:38 nationalism and they were not
0:15:40 really effective and then 1973
0:15:43 with another war which is held in
0:15:46 egyptian
0:15:47 history at least as one of the great
0:15:49 victories and i see why they think that
0:15:51 because at least they've regained sinai
0:15:55 they regained sinai in 1973
0:15:59 but we still have the issue as it is now
0:16:01 and then you have all these accords that
0:16:02 took place before
0:16:03 in between that time period and then you
0:16:05 had the struggle which continued
0:16:07 and you had the intifadas into father
0:16:09 one intifada
0:16:10 ii and then you had these operations
0:16:13 against
0:16:13 gaza cast lead and protective edge
0:16:16 two major operations which killed
0:16:19 claimed the lives of many different
0:16:20 people
0:16:21 in the early 2000s you also had the
0:16:23 removal of the movement
0:16:25 away of the jewish settlers from hazzard
0:16:28 under the reign of ariel sharon is very
0:16:31 interesting
0:16:32 because i actually watched some videos
0:16:36 of those individuals the jewish settlers
0:16:38 in gaza
0:16:39 they were leaving because they were
0:16:41 being told to leave by ariel sharon
0:16:44 and as they were leaving they were
0:16:45 destroying their homes and this exactly
0:16:48 mimics what happened to bernoull
0:16:49 which was a tribe of the jewish people
0:16:51 at the time of the prophet muhammad
0:17:01 that they destroyed their own homes
0:17:02 exactly the same thing they were exiled
0:17:04 and they destroyed their own homes
0:17:05 before they leave so they don't they
0:17:07 don't leave anything nice for
0:17:08 the muslims and now obviously you had
0:17:11 these other operations that took place
0:17:13 and we are where we are the question is
0:17:16 why is this all happening it's happening
0:17:18 because those
0:17:19 particular zionists have a racial
0:17:23 in exactly by the way zionism and nazism
0:17:25 are very similar
0:17:27 they're both nationalistic they're both
0:17:29 racially predicated
0:17:30 and they had exactly the same vision
0:17:32 really they wanted to see a country full
0:17:34 of people that homogeneous
0:17:37 that's their vision it's a racist vision
0:17:39 and now you have an apartheid state and
0:17:40 you have people who claim to be liberals
0:17:42 or even neoconservatives and other who
0:17:45 whoever they whoever they may be
0:17:46 who support the state of israel
0:17:50 what is our job and what do we do i'll
0:17:53 be honest with you
0:17:54 with razza and with the duffalga of the
0:17:57 west bank
0:17:59 the truth of the matter is it's it's
0:18:01 really a pessimistic case
0:18:03 henry kissinger once said something very
0:18:06 important
0:18:07 he said this to us sadet the egyptian
0:18:11 prime minister at the time of the
0:18:13 president at the time
0:18:15 he said to him you cannot win on the
0:18:16 negotiating table what you've lost in
0:18:18 the battlefield
0:18:21 and this is something true of life we
0:18:23 cannot expect as muslim people to have
0:18:26 to win on the negotiating table what
0:18:28 we've lost in the battlefield
0:18:31 that's the first principle the second
0:18:33 principle now the second point
0:18:35 is as it relates to charity
0:18:38 some people now mashallah pouring in
0:18:40 charity
0:18:42 and i'm not saying not saying that's not
0:18:43 a good thing but from my connections
0:18:46 that with the charity organizations
0:18:47 i'm not saying that has that putting
0:18:49 money into it is not a good idea
0:18:51 but it's limited because israel is not
0:18:53 going to let people go into yeah
0:18:55 so it's gonna it's gonna be stalled
0:18:56 people are gonna have the money the
0:18:58 charities are gonna have the money not
0:18:59 know what to do with it
0:19:00 or they might have the money and try and
0:19:02 transfer some of it but it's not gonna
0:19:04 be all effective
0:19:06 for me personally i personally believe
0:19:09 that the most
0:19:10 effective thing we can do in the west
0:19:13 is promote the narrative of racism
0:19:17 and terrorism and this is what israelis
0:19:20 it's a racist state and is a terroristic
0:19:22 state and when i say that
0:19:24 i don't mean that in jest in fact this
0:19:26 is historical reality
0:19:28 why is it a racist state for the reasons
0:19:30 aforementioned that they have
0:19:32 it's been revealed to us that they want
0:19:34 to ethnically cleanse
0:19:36 the place and make it people of the
0:19:39 homogenous
0:19:40 racial groupings why is it a terroristic
0:19:43 state
0:19:44 because those same people that bombed
0:19:46 the hotel that i talked to you about
0:19:48 people like muhammad
0:19:51 begin i don't know how to pronounce his
0:19:53 first name
0:19:54 he which wrote that he wrote a book
0:19:56 called the revolt
0:19:58 a revolting book who
0:20:01 talks about hate and how he he targets
0:20:04 civilians in his book is
0:20:06 you can get it from the library
0:20:09 this individual became the pr the
0:20:11 president of israel
0:20:13 this terrorist became the president of
0:20:15 israel from 1977
0:20:17 to 1981 can you imagine abu bakr
0:20:22 or one of those terrorists becoming
0:20:25 a president of a country and being
0:20:26 welcomed and having his hand
0:20:29 shaken by rulers across the world
0:20:33 someone who was part of an operation of
0:20:36 people who targeted civilians directly
0:20:39 he became the president and this is the
0:20:42 infrastructure of the current
0:20:44 lucid party in israel it has its origins
0:20:48 in a terroristic organization
0:20:49 in a racist terroristic organization and
0:20:52 the truth of the matter is they use
0:20:54 theological justification for this
0:20:57 the chosen people justification and the
0:21:00 quran challenges them on that by the way
0:21:03 says if you really believe that you are
0:21:06 the chosen people
0:21:10 if you are truthful yeah they believe
0:21:12 that this
0:21:13 the the ethnicity will give them
0:21:16 salvation
0:21:17 if that's the case then what are you
0:21:19 doing here we should be asking for death
0:21:22 the quran challenges this type of racism
0:21:28 and this ethnocentric approach to
0:21:30 theology
0:21:31 which is not in fact anything to do with
0:21:34 the
0:21:35 prophetic messages of moses or any of
0:21:38 the old testament prophets
0:21:39 especially those who are sent to ibn
0:21:41 islami the children of israel
0:21:44 no so having said all of this
0:21:49 the two things i recommend we must
0:21:52 expose
0:21:53 the terroristic and the racial nature
0:21:58 the anti-racial the racist
0:22:01 the racist character
0:22:04 of the israeli
0:22:07 government we must
0:22:11 this for me if there was an organization
0:22:14 or if there are organizations that are
0:22:15 specializing
0:22:16 just in exposing this narrative
0:22:19 that would be in this case for me and
0:22:22 this is not a fatwa or anything like
0:22:24 that
0:22:24 but for me if i was putting my money in
0:22:26 something i put it into that
0:22:28 and i think the people of palestine
0:22:29 would appreciate that the most because
0:22:31 that will be most likely to have an
0:22:34 effect
0:22:35 a policy effect to have to which will
0:22:39 eventually lead to some kind of relief
0:22:42 some kind of relief but having said that
0:22:47 i must admit i agree with kissinger
0:22:51 that this situation is not going to be
0:22:53 solved on the negotiating table
0:22:55 and i agree that
0:22:58 it's something which will probably
0:23:00 continue for a very very long time
0:23:02 and no amount of two-state solution
0:23:05 proposals
0:23:06 will be sufficient in this case or even
0:23:09 acceptable
0:23:10 morally to be honest with you from our
0:23:11 perspective and so for that reason
0:23:14 what i say to you as a muslim community
0:23:16 is this
0:23:18 if you care about palestine learn the
0:23:22 history
0:23:23 read the books and the articles and
0:23:26 promote the narratives
0:23:28 the narratives i've just said was