Muslim Surprises Presenter With... (2017-11-02) ​

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Radio station presenter interviews Muslim about some of the controversial issues regarding Islam and the media. An interesting and fruitful discussion is had with interesting and surprising comments made.

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discusses how some Muslims view suicide bombers as martyrs, and how this understanding of suicide bombing can be used to justify the act. points out that many civilians are also casualties of suicide bombings, and that there should be a concordance or explanation next to verses in the Quran that refer to suicide bombing.

00:00:00 Discusses how Muslim Surprises Presenter with money, citizenship, and platforms, and how the Muslim world is in a post-colonial reality. Rabia discusses how some verses in the Quran are foundational to a specific interpretation, and how some people may misinterpret these verses.

• 00:05:00 The presenter discusses how some Muslims believe that it is okay to fight back against those who attack them, even if it means killing them. The presenter also points out that this is not the same as terrorism, which is a term that is typically applied to violence perpetrated against civilians for political purposes.
• 00:10:00 This Muslim surprises presenter with his dedication to not killing another person over their blood or great property and land. He goes on to say that this same dedication applies to people in the West, and that the same Western Colonial person that really the same the Western Colonial master came to your parents country, justification of cultural superiority, justified killing based on culture, and taking of young girls as slave girls in the Old Testament, is still at it today, trying to go into the Middle East from an unnecessary Africa.
• 00:15:00 Discusses how some Muslims view suicide bombers as martyrs, and how this understanding of suicide bombing can be used to justify the act. points out that many civilians are also casualties of suicide bombings, and that there should be a concordance or explanation next to verses in the Quran that refer to suicide bombing.
• 00:20:00 The presenter discusses how Islam comes with a message of submission to the creator, as well as an evidence base of rational evidences to support the Quran's authenticity. The presenter points out how post-colonial realities still exist today, and how those living in them are constantly being infiltrated and controlled by outside forces.
• 00:25:00 The presenter discusses the differences between Muslim and non-Muslim civilizations, and how Muslim empires were more successful than non-Muslim ones. He also points out that Western technological progress has been negative overall, and that African traditions have taken up most of the scientific progress.

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0:00:00 finances play a massive part in this but0:00:03 let's say go peace-loving or the ones0:00:07 that follow Islam in the correct fashion0:00:09 let's say in Saudi Arabia they they have0:00:12 billions why would they not use that -0:00:15 instead of giving citizenship - oh yeah0:00:19 but still and now there's a massive0:00:21 platform for us knowing certainty has0:00:23 sadly Rabia citizenship yeah tell me0:00:25 baby they'd have platforms their biggest0:00:27 biggest channel anti-derivative arabiya0:00:29 and it's almost you could say liberal0:00:31 channel yes it's a liberal channel in0:00:33 the sense they promote you could cook0:00:35 you could say you could argue a twist0:00:37 and liberal narrative so this is ironic0:00:41 in a sense that the biggest channels in0:00:43 the Muslim old are promoting the same0:00:45 things that the Westeros and that's due0:00:49 to the ties of money oil possibly it0:00:52 could be but a generous Jew - I think a0:00:55 post-colonial reality now Saudi Arabia0:00:58 itself is used as an example wasn't0:01:00 colonized by the British yeah0:01:01 but the majority of countries in North0:01:04 Africa yeah including memory foam which0:01:07 is Egypt were cordoned : Viper Egypt0:01:09 there by Britain or France yeah so that0:01:13 mentality obviously the African0:01:14 countries themselves and have the other0:01:16 effects of that muscular in the reality0:01:18 which is why you'll find in a lot of our0:01:20 countries you're getting African would0:01:24 you make it more like Caribbean yeah so0:01:26 what you're originally African let's say0:01:29 yeah that reality has spillover to0:01:32 seeing things like hey no fair and0:01:34 lovely fur lovely the white is something0:01:37 that wipe the skin basically so it0:01:39 ranges now the post-colonial reality0:01:41 ranges from finding Beauty aesthetically0:01:44 have seen more white it's actually being0:01:47 an agreement with everything the white0:01:48 colonial post-colonial master tells you0:01:50 that is true and we don't know how much0:01:52 this has encroached us this is important0:01:54 so much that now every question you0:01:56 asked I promise you is going to have a0:01:58 Western colonial post-colonial slum and0:02:02 that's orient what you're going to say0:02:06 we could even like before when you0:02:10 before you came in Linda but you had no0:02:13 crane here and we've been quoted by why0:02:15 does it have I think like you said how0:02:17 the Western media portrayal is why thank0:02:20 you0:02:21 this is it they should be the way to0:02:22 lighten that disease look hat because0:02:28 someone asked me platform and I'll put0:02:30 you up with regards to the Koala vigil0:02:34 smart broom when it's my recognizes a0:02:42 smart man that makes you smart so0:02:43 telling someone said that there's0:02:50 certain parts of the Quran as well as0:02:52 the Bible updated so when I raised0:02:55 points surrounding violence yeah waging0:02:58 a holy war G has once again the0:03:01 post-colonial start as slot spots there0:03:03 what the narratives us having with that0:03:06 Polly is important to duty before I'm0:03:10 going to be asking questions that people0:03:11 ask me as well I'm practicing Muslim so0:03:16 I just want to know when looking at the0:03:19 Quran yeah how can you and see what is0:03:22 metaphorically may be the case and what0:03:25 it's not like before you go ok chapter 30:03:28 verse 7 who told you that it tells you0:03:29 that you that submit away mmm what0:03:31 commands will hum no Lupita not too0:03:34 shabby and so since that this book has0:03:36 in it0:03:37 verses which are basically ambiguous and0:03:40 other verses which are foundational to0:03:42 no I'm reading the Quran how am I0:03:48 supposed to know each one so one good0:03:50 question as we push into the answer to a0:03:51 question is that0:03:52 those verses which speak in a way which0:03:55 can only be interpreted in a way in one0:03:57 way are the foundational verses for0:03:59 example chapter 1120:04:02 verse 1 to 4 put although I say DS Allah0:04:05 will block one and only0:04:06 so we believe in only one but did normal0:04:08 so that's going to come out saying0:04:10 two girls or three a Christian might say0:04:12 I believe in the Trinity three one or0:04:13 three0:04:14 we don't have that we don't have that0:04:15 confusion so we say football all I have0:04:18 is a foundational verse no one can come0:04:19 back and say look hold on if you don't0:04:21 believe in blue velour head or we have a0:04:24 different interpretation no one in the0:04:25 history of Islam and I said that so0:04:26 that's the foundational but that's not a0:04:28 metaphoric verse and cannot be subject0:04:30 to a different interpretation but then I0:04:33 think you're coming from a place of0:04:34 being educated because there's many0:04:37 people that I feel whether that be in0:04:40 rural places of the Middle East or even0:04:42 here where they're looking for belonging0:04:44 and they attach themselves to certain0:04:45 groups how would they how you eloquently0:04:48 explained that how would they know that0:04:50 for example someone's message me saying0:04:51 in the Quran it says and kill them0:04:53 wherever you find them and turn them out0:04:55 from where they have turned to you out0:04:57 okay that's slow so let me let me0:04:59 quickly answer both question okay boy0:05:01 you've what you've posited in the first0:05:03 instance is called an argument ignorance0:05:05 it's a fallacy in logic okay so if you0:05:07 don't know something exists it doesn't0:05:08 mean as pulse so if I say okay this0:05:11 person doesn't know it therefore it must0:05:12 be false that's called an argument from0:05:14 ignorance if I say as was the case that0:05:16 Neptune doesn't exist because I can't0:05:18 see it it couldn't see Neptune at one0:05:19 point yeah and they have to kind of find0:05:22 that you the time Neptune after you they0:05:24 have to track your based on planet it0:05:26 doesn't exist therefore it doesn't exist0:05:28 that's an island with midnight so for my0:05:29 logical perspective it doesn't carry any0:05:31 weight people don't understand things0:05:33 they have to get educated that Francis0:05:34 Bacon said knowledge is power it's not0:05:36 my problem but there is an excuse in0:05:39 this time moving that it would be nice0:05:40 how it is more like someone ignorant God0:05:42 will take care of them0:05:43 accordance with the knowledge that they0:05:45 know yeah not even in Christianity if0:05:47 there's life you will be treated on on0:05:49 the basis of what light you know you0:05:52 don't know how ever so let's look at in0:05:56 the most basic way possible you have0:05:58 young people that I've seen that many of0:06:00 their family members are being killed0:06:03 due to Western performing some program0:06:05 and then they need whether it's ignorant0:06:08 individual that's parts of group and0:06:09 says listen the Quran justifies us going0:06:12 and killing these people that are0:06:13 killing us or as answers0:06:14 now you've measured is why so let me0:06:15 then meet let me put this in the0:06:17 simplest way possible0:06:18 try and make it yeah certifiable next up0:06:21 blame0:06:21 okay so the blog has in it like you just0:06:24 mentioned chapter nine verse five yeah0:06:26 what you just mentioned before kill the0:06:28 women to climb up laughs kind of you can0:06:30 you can say that right so you just rich0:06:31 in top of the mango spike okay that's0:06:34 the problem because why you know mention0:06:35 in chapter 9 verse 1 2 3 4 5 & 6 then 70:06:39 but their decibel reading out of context0:06:41 yeah so chapter 9 verses 1 to 40:06:44 stipulates that there was some kind of0:06:45 agreement between the Muslims and at0:06:48 that particular time the pagan Arabs0:06:49 they animated an agreement0:06:51 what's up muzzle taken have a guitar0:06:53 absorb a bullet in so at the time of0:06:56 Muhammad Ali Kemp's know people that I0:06:58 just really become Muslim and people0:07:01 that stayed upon the religion of their0:07:02 forefathers and believed in a0:07:03 multiplicity of gods0:07:04 ok so they believed in different statute0:07:07 goes that they used to worship yeah so0:07:09 there was an agreement between those two0:07:11 camps between the Muslims and the pagan0:07:14 Arabs now the first verse of chapter 90:07:16 which is possible to tell ba and the0:07:18 Quran says that they're basically that0:07:20 they have these pagan Arabs have not the0:07:24 agreement has been hoping that taken0:07:27 care of in other words that they have0:07:30 betrayed the agreement then it continues0:07:33 talking about what you should do it says0:07:35 find that what you kill them when you0:07:37 find them etc talking about in the0:07:40 context of war is now at war has been0:07:42 issued just like in any international0:07:44 relationship where you have a treaty0:07:47 that's I'm gay it was look my treaty0:07:50 that signed international relations0:07:52 perspective that mountains been broken0:07:54 and now one party has the right to0:07:56 offend it's also offend will defend0:07:59 itself on the offending pipe yeah here0:08:01 is in chapter 2 verse 1 mighty he says0:08:04 well positively dealing you but even0:08:06 when I tell him in a lie that you do not0:08:09 see that fight those people who fight0:08:11 you and don't go across the bounds was0:08:13 God doesn't like those who go across the0:08:15 bow so that still relate to you today0:08:17 find those people who'd want you0:08:21 basically Islamic law pacifistic0:08:24 so we're not saying that you know the0:08:28 idea of sorry but I'm gonna do the0:08:30 crudest those terms are not fencing0:08:31 nationís but the idea of slapping0:08:34 someone that she can give them the other0:08:35 G we don't have that idea0:08:38 we have if someone's like to to cheat0:08:40 you are allowed to slap them back on0:08:42 their cheek okay II understand so if0:08:45 someone attacks me on the road yeah yeah0:08:47 I'm allowed to fight them so then would0:08:49 you say basically will defense so from0:08:52 an international relations respect yeah0:08:54 different country is being attacked they0:08:57 must fight back it's not about that they0:08:59 should fight back will they have the0:09:01 option of like they actually you have to0:09:03 do this them to fight back after me oh0:09:04 so you're saying that it's okay for them0:09:07 to defend themselves to defend so what's0:09:11 happening now what okay so terrorism is0:09:16 basically you said that everything that0:09:20 we think about is from a Western0:09:24 ideology0:09:25 however Zi and myself have spoken about0:09:28 this in the past0:09:29 we're on air management I'm not going to0:09:33 justify your however I can understand0:09:36 that0:09:36 I see could continuous bomb into my0:09:39 country yeah0:09:40 if that means a couple casualties hey0:09:42 how will you see it from the outside as0:09:45 necessarily a bad thing in a way the0:09:46 West is asking for it to a degree but is0:09:49 it justified then yeah as much as a part0:09:51 of it so it's not just look it's written0:09:54 may their chapter 5 verse 32 it says in0:09:58 them under the knife whoever kills one0:10:00 person devotedness0:10:01 for not killing another person over0:10:03 their blood or great property and land0:10:06 again hunted and I said you know it's as0:10:08 if if humanity so killing one innocent0:10:11 person or the lady who's little almost0:10:12 there was kidding0:10:13 like they love you right that's a very0:10:14 famous person underline the point big is0:10:17 this you just have to think yeah the0:10:22 difference is this if they're combatants0:10:24 and text you that is a combatant someone0:10:27 who wants to fight you whereas if it's a0:10:30 non-combatants someone who isn't0:10:32 the Prophet told us you're not allowed0:10:34 to kill categories of people of them are0:10:36 they're non-combative women children0:10:38 even most priests you don't have to cut0:10:40 down trees very stupid question yeah0:10:43 well it's not a play it's very stupid0:10:45 by the way this is not something0:10:46 controversial the only reason and I'll0:10:48 tell you once again the only reason why0:10:50 you asking this question is actually is0:10:52 sad enough and funny enough I'll tell0:10:54 you why I said nothing was funny it's0:10:56 sad because actually the same reason0:10:58 you're asking it is because the same0:11:01 Western colonial person that really the0:11:05 same the Western colonial master came to0:11:07 your parents country yeah yeah and they0:11:11 did that because they justified cultural0:11:13 superiority they said we are culturally0:11:15 we are culturally superior to your0:11:17 parents yeah they have been traveled0:11:20 religion and the African tribal systems0:11:22 are inferior systems and therefore we we0:11:27 have a culture which we need to give to0:11:29 these individuals push revolution pour0:11:31 culture I think the same reason now now0:11:34 it's being moved from the corner0:11:35 colonial landscape to a hospital or0:11:37 landscape you still have the equatorial0:11:39 region Wanek western USA that is0:11:43 attempting now to go into the Middle0:11:44 East from an unnecessary Africa as much0:11:46 as much for colonial economic reasons so0:11:50 they've had to invent a narrative this0:11:52 narrative is a narrative of Samuel0:11:54 Huntington a clash of civilizations and0:11:57 a civilization a civilizational clash0:11:59 between the Muslims and the Western0:12:01 Hemisphere that narrative now which has0:12:03 been invented yeah people are starting0:12:06 to believe in it because they're not0:12:07 critical thinkers they don't thinking0:12:08 okay well actually what is special about0:12:10 this version of Quran because actually0:12:13 if you look at the Old Testament book of0:12:14 numbers 31 18 it says not only did you0:12:18 kill the enemy but you take the young0:12:20 girls as slave girls and in the Old0:12:22 Testament right yeah so in other words0:12:24 prepubescence you take them you slightly0:12:26 enslave them you rape them you can rate0:12:28 them almost almost it also says that0:12:30 most of the commentators have said that0:12:33 no one I had not come across one single0:12:35 common to our country that has actually0:12:37 differed from that understanding that0:12:40 literally comes0:12:42 so why don't we talk about that verse0:12:43 because that was actually more dramatic0:12:45 than any person that we're on didn't0:12:47 fight but then when when we look at the0:12:50 Old Testament oftentimes that the death0:12:54 of Jesus does away with a lot of the old0:12:56 practices in the Old Testament so the0:12:58 New Testament so Matthew so it says0:13:01 Jesus says I'm not coming to do it0:13:02 without comfort affirm them what is the0:13:04 word firmly this is a discussion but the0:13:07 thing is as follows if Jesus Christ is0:13:09 God if Jesus Christ is God that is the0:13:12 Nicene Creed through 2580 understanding0:13:15 of Christianity yeah he is the author of0:13:18 the Old Testament because the Father the0:13:20 sign of the Holy Spirit or one therefore0:13:22 those texts induce wanna be like0:13:24 Deuteronomy chapter 21 verse 10 Jude0:13:27 numbers chapter 31 verse 18 and other0:13:30 verses which are very very much0:13:32 you know vicious you could say very0:13:35 vicious these are not only authored by0:13:39 Jesus Christ but they sanctioned by him0:13:41 himself because he is God so if the0:13:44 argument is that the Old Testament is0:13:46 the New Testament yeah well Jesus must0:13:49 have read all of the Old Testament0:13:51 because he's God yeah a lot of questions0:13:54 are even after you move across the0:13:55 Trinity but coming back to offending0:13:57 your country you'll say that in terms of0:14:01 you can defend yourself if there's a0:14:03 combatant but my thing is how the0:14:05 Western world is set up in invading many0:14:09 countries how would you then defend your0:14:12 country because you're not gonna go to0:14:14 if you know Trump sits down to either0:14:16 male for example if thou do you defend0:14:21 if you're seated right if you live in0:14:24 those countries and people come into0:14:25 those countries trying to attack you and0:14:28 take your sovereignty away as a0:14:29 independent autonomous human being you0:14:32 do the same thing as the Kenyans did0:14:33 when the British came to invade you0:14:35 fight back and it would have been cool0:14:37 terrorism as we call flying through your0:14:39 land0:14:39 exactly okay so Susan so my thing is0:14:42 because we know now that technology is0:14:45 so advanced from when the Quran was0:14:48 written then it's not as simple assault0:14:51 as running into York0:14:52 tree and you having a what punch others0:14:56 whether the same time she blows it up up0:14:59 in fact doesn't have these because I had0:15:01 these with the Prophet Muhammad they had0:15:03 these is a saying of the Prophet0:15:04 Muhammad everyone that kills themselves0:15:06 just generally speaking suicide that0:15:08 they will continue to do that in the0:15:09 Hellfire to themselves okay so why do0:15:11 these suicide bombers do that whenever0:15:14 they get any prom they must be getting0:15:16 education how about that because0:15:22 displace our market itself accommodation0:15:25 but let me go make thick they get a look0:15:28 around because of those salespeople okay0:15:30 which act will says be modest is that0:15:33 were are in a way which two groups of0:15:37 people have bought into one of them are0:15:40 these fabricators and the other one are0:15:42 the terrorists the Islamic haters and0:15:45 the terrorists have the same0:15:46 understanding the Quran yeah both of0:15:50 those have that understanding that0:15:53 actually those verses which are talking0:15:56 about war and clearly in the context a0:15:58 regime of so the table chapter 9 verse 10:15:59 to 5 is talking about international0:16:02 relations nations treaties etc those0:16:06 sales people which Apple sales people0:16:07 they've been able to manipulate the text0:16:10 using hermeneutical domestics and x20:16:12 Jesus can you tell me what the truth is0:16:14 in English stop I'm Dracula where the0:16:16 Saudi verses there are so many verses0:16:20 there's nothing in the Quran you know0:16:23 I'm saying in the quran verse says you0:16:24 can fight the enemy okay the enemy who0:16:27 is the enemy now basically what I'm0:16:30 saying to you is the Islamic haters and0:16:33 the terrorists have the same0:16:35 understanding of who the enemy is0:16:36 okay who is actually any civilian any0:16:39 civilian why are they the enemy the way0:16:42 they justify it is as follows and they0:16:43 put inoperative and people the general0:16:47 populace yeah they actually endorse yes0:16:51 the leaders yeah this is the way many of0:16:54 the sales people they they actually0:16:58 pitch it they say that they endorsed0:16:59 their leaders0:17:00 therefore they are responsible for what0:17:03 their leaders from a foreign policy0:17:04 perspective0:17:06 say and do so if they're if they're0:17:09 leaders black in 2003 say let's go to0:17:11 Iraq and kill hundred thirty three0:17:13 thousand people yeah then they are0:17:14 responsible that's how they justify it0:17:17 so now they're able to shift the blame0:17:19 from the politician and the military0:17:22 complex to the general populace and0:17:25 therefore general populace blood becomes0:17:27 as you know as easy to get as the for0:17:32 example military only punishes blood so0:17:35 all the company Edison see a few people0:17:38 that want to cool in you can call it we0:17:40 have literally got half an hour left oh0:17:41 seven nine five one four nine seven0:17:44 eight seven eight0:17:45 you can call in speech and how many to0:17:47 answer your questions you've got you've0:17:49 got one guy do to start you're so strong0:17:51 outstanding tellin state poppies going0:17:53 in do you think you're right do you do0:17:57 you think that there should be a modern0:18:00 day writing of the put on because like0:18:04 you like you say that there are certain0:18:06 things that are taken out of context why0:18:14 should these people that I'm me okay0:18:20 that when I speak to them about0:18:23 capitalism or communism left-right0:18:27 colonialism they don't have Scooby they0:18:30 don't all that it's not taught in the0:18:31 schools properly unless you wanna study0:18:33 in university okay so when you have0:18:36 young let's say even young but when you0:18:39 have certain people that may go into0:18:41 prism and there's a brother William0:18:42 prism that's going to protect them they0:18:45 start reading the Quran they don't have0:18:48 the ingenuity or the education behind it0:18:51 to be able to contextualize business0:18:52 over good then that's why I'm saying0:18:55 should there be some sort of concordance0:18:57 or explanation next to these verses to0:19:00 state that this is what it actually0:19:02 means however if you read another person0:19:04 could look like it's contradictory but0:19:07 as usual by interpretation well I have0:19:09 the black sometimes the vial is got hurt0:19:11 so there's a dog this is not a lot of0:19:14 Muslims0:19:18 no it's Jesus is when scholars of the0:19:21 profile on the Bible or any religious0:19:23 texts and yeah they interpret it in0:19:26 accordance with language the lens that0:19:28 the events of good equal the Hermit0:19:30 useful approach musical yes will how0:19:32 musical approach so they use different0:19:35 tools to access the religious texts that0:19:37 is that's done everywhere that's done0:19:39 within Islam Christianity Judaism0:19:40 understand text Zone seven sex ok kill0:19:43 the Liberty is a lot small is called the0:19:45 her musical approach and people that are0:19:47 studying the Quran for the first time0:19:49 she view cookies which option that's a0:19:51 good point exactly so in other words0:19:53 what a young terrorist want to be looks0:19:56 at the exegesis yeah yeah and he and he0:19:59 realizes that the way he's interpreted0:20:01 the Quran is not in line with the0:20:03 classic interpretation from day one for0:20:06 the first person to according to my0:20:08 knowledge to to interpret the provider0:20:10 for a summer book ended poverty and 3100:20:14 aah yeah and then you have then you have0:20:17 someone like a wooded here0:20:18 very famous that's here or very famous0:20:20 into Jesus that was written in 774 aah0:20:23 and others like for example a seal to0:20:26 ruin my night one anyways all nine one0:20:29 one which is actually funny there's like0:20:31 nine eleven and well that's what he died0:20:35 at the point being is that these stuff0:20:37 the stuff is there the scholars have0:20:39 done the work all that needs to happen0:20:41 is that the young people that are0:20:42 persuaded yeah by the terroristic0:20:45 narrative which is actually in many ways0:20:47 similar to the anti slamming narrative0:20:49 or the same they should look at those0:20:51 things before making a judgment and when0:20:55 they look at it properly they will then0:20:57 see that actually what they mothers do0:20:59 the plan to be is different its0:21:01 disjointed from the way the classical0:21:03 scholars from day one have ever seen0:21:05 them so how do you feel about these0:21:07 canudas talking about or like this new0:21:09 trend of you know it's cool to be Muslim0:21:11 a lot of that I know a lot of pies it in0:21:14 Muslim and then with menu but it comes0:21:16 around to random their path being0:21:17 mothers to leave a club do whatever we0:21:20 do you think about this whole new wave0:21:22 or you know it's come to be over soon0:21:23 now0:21:28 look it's lemons is forest maybe just0:21:29 for people that don't know I mean to0:21:31 hear me talking a lot of answers like0:21:33 took a lot of big words I'm not trying0:21:35 to be I'm not trying to pontificate much0:21:37 so it's intimate but what do you do I'm0:21:41 Deidre okay what do you teach history ah0:21:45 okay make sense0:21:47 all right okay so basically what I was0:21:49 gonna say was this is that I'm saying0:21:52 I've always wanted to gain access to the0:21:53 dating right yeah which was all the time0:21:55 just talking musically important people0:21:57 are talking about going back to basics0:22:00 aslam generally just means submissions0:22:02 but we believe that Godfrey the0:22:04 university maintain the universe he's0:22:07 the sustainable things yeah and that he0:22:10 sent messengers of wartime to respected0:22:13 peoples and localities to respective0:22:15 civilizations to tell them of the0:22:17 message of God which is to worship God0:22:20 to believe in him as a pitcher as well0:22:21 but he said Abraham and Moses and Jesus0:22:25 a pond of Muhammad at the end yeah and0:22:27 he is the final prophet0:22:28 so that's foundationally wife's lamb is0:22:30 and two things that Islam comes room is0:22:33 that message which is a basic premise0:22:36 believe the brush equal one God not0:22:38 three-in-one not the Trinity we0:22:40 disassociate ourselves from the Trinity0:22:42 and not an atheistic obviously narrative0:22:44 but here we're talking about just0:22:46 believing in one altima entity creator0:22:48 that has fashioned users is the state of0:22:51 you and maintaining you in this universe0:22:53 cosmos where we are significant aspects0:22:57 of that cosmos and what you could submit0:22:59 to that all-knowing entity that's0:23:01 basically this time after we believe we0:23:03 have evidences to prove that this0:23:05 narrative is true so do two things come0:23:08 and hand and have the message in them0:23:09 and the evidence base and all the0:23:12 prophets have come to their respective0:23:13 people's they have come with two things0:23:16 they've come with a message of Islam0:23:17 which is to submit to the creator and0:23:19 they've also come with an evidence base0:23:21 which is a range of rational evidences0:23:25 given to human beings to prove that the0:23:27 message is true so Islam comes hand in0:23:30 hand and some of those evidences are0:23:31 things like religions of the future0:23:32 things like the fact that before are as0:23:35 you mentioned0:23:35 before is the only preserved ancient0:23:38 religious texts the things like the fact0:23:40 that you will not be able to find the0:23:42 contradiction of behind the fact that0:23:43 the Quran is inevitable in other words0:23:45 it can't be imitated except for except0:23:47 us so from that perspective we feel we0:23:49 have a rational coherent worldview we0:23:53 have a coherent if this is monarchy and0:23:55 commitment ology we don't need a Western0:23:58 post-colonial narrative to tell us0:24:00 basically what modernity should look0:24:02 like what more Tennessee is it's easy0:24:04 for you to say though coming from the0:24:06 point of black ascent and educated point0:24:08 where there's many generations here that0:24:11 they always nice however you want to0:24:14 trust it up that due to schooling do too0:24:18 maybe the watering down of how and by0:24:20 the way I'm not against everything in0:24:22 the West I'm just saying why don't our0:24:23 full procedures they can come from oh0:24:25 very well you're out okay what do you0:24:28 like you're an African woman and your0:24:30 forefathers yeah we're Africans in the0:24:33 continent of Africa0:24:34 you're full of other white men came to0:24:37 your country and took over part of your0:24:40 land yeah that's what happened now you0:24:43 might think they'll those days are done0:24:44 those days are not done those days up0:24:47 continue and so this very day there is a0:24:50 post-colonial reality the way you dress0:24:53 the way you told everything about You0:24:55 screams I have been infiltrated and core0:24:58 tonight once again just like my0:25:00 forefathers were the only difference is0:25:02 that they will go for young people and0:25:07 your forefathers were colonized by men0:25:10 on brown boo-boos whereas you guys are0:25:13 colonized on so it's zero but when ideas0:25:16 yeah ideologically or colonize you can't0:25:19 think outside of this box of modernity0:25:22 Western discourse where is the African0:25:25 tribalism increases believe it I need to0:25:28 know it's time at the only religion in0:25:30 Africa which is actually the choice of0:25:31 the what's happening I'm going to say0:25:33 that but where it's Lamas the only0:25:35 religion in Africa which is the choice0:25:37 of the word after if you father was a0:25:40 religion with all of them I love it more0:25:43 spiritualism yeah I agree0:25:45 if you look at the body Empire the0:25:48 songhai empire if you look at the and0:25:50 the Ghana Empire all of these empires0:25:52 were Muslim empires and what the choice0:25:54 of the African if you want to go before0:25:56 us about what was the choices the West0:25:57 African non colonized person will talk0:26:01 about slam back to what you said I think0:26:06 as you're speaking on those things let's0:26:09 set aside Islam for one second how do0:26:13 you teach young people coming up how to0:26:17 think0:26:18 avoid all Western why I'm not saying0:26:22 that these ideas westernized these are0:26:24 very valued I don't ever wanted to say0:26:27 like I say well saying is coming from0:26:31 Western views so my thing is nothing0:26:33 wrong with that to a degree it's0:26:34 important if you're saying that our0:26:36 forefathers are African yeah we should0:26:38 be able to switch and think I'm saved0:26:41 your father like the truth is devoid of0:26:44 color creed what I'm saying is this is0:26:47 that when we are told that the truth is0:26:50 the truth because the white man sin so0:26:52 the post-enlightenment experiences so0:26:54 the post-colonial experiences so that's0:26:57 where takes it back so why is that it is0:26:58 why don't we do that love your father's0:27:02 dead after Christian white that's what0:27:05 we did that I live mandela mandela why0:27:07 do you think mountain is not why do you0:27:08 think mile is mine these people are0:27:11 these three ends are the way they are0:27:12 because they ask why and then they are0:27:15 an innocent no when he realized that0:27:17 there are several times actually yeah0:27:18 they are white and they're not0:27:21 with the answer then they said no that's0:27:23 what made these people successful0:27:25 definitely opportunity well I'm saying0:27:27 is a lot Los Angeles throw the baby with0:27:29 the bath more I'm all say let's take0:27:31 away okay all of the West to accomplish0:27:35 new because let's be frank0:27:36 Western technological progress is bad0:27:38 and the majority of the world what's the0:27:41 scientific progress is that apparently0:27:42 need yeah it's been taken it's been0:27:44 inherited by the outer issues or by the0:27:46 Chinese revision or by the African0:27:48 tradition and it's been blow up on top0:27:50 Minitab can take it that's a good thing0:27:53 there are lots of things like0:27:55 we didn't was the world militant0:27:57 anti-racism come to inclusivity tolerate0:28:00 I like that that's tough0:28:02 I will say let's call that probably what0:28:04 I'm saying is that the narrative them0:28:05 written out endure the Western man has0:28:07 has forced us to engage with that we0:28:11 should question they still having people0:28:12 ask