The Biggest Crime in Islam. (2017-10-23) ​

0:00:00 and I'll explain it I want to see your
0:00:02 reaction okay from our perspective we
0:00:07 were talking about value and we talked
0:00:09 about more relativity and on atheism and
0:00:11 naturalism how actually everything is
0:00:12 relative and this is the this is the
0:00:14 prevailing philosophical position of
0:00:18 most post enlightenment post modernist
0:00:21 philosophers like Nietzsche and Bertrand
0:00:24 Russell and you know Jacques Derrida and
0:00:26 others yeah we'll come back a little bit
0:00:29 so in other words more relativity to
0:00:32 suggest that you make your morality
0:00:33 right you have you make your own purpose
0:00:35 you make your morality with morality
0:00:36 from an Islamic perspective we say that
0:00:40 obviously God you know the old knowing
0:00:42 feel powerful the all-wise he is the one
0:00:45 who sets the standards he's the one who
0:00:47 makes the morals for us the the most the
0:00:51 most the worst sin the worst thing to do
0:00:56 what's the murder wait what's going on
0:01:00 worse than murder is this thing called
0:01:04 [ __ ] and I'll tell you what it means
0:01:05 shirk is the association of partners
0:01:08 with God before I I want to say so I
0:01:11 wanna make you a controversial statement
0:01:12 first yeah I'm gonna make a
0:01:14 controversial statement a ridiculous
0:01:15 statement and then I'm gonna explain
0:01:17 this table let's suppose that this is on
0:01:21 Islamic theology yeah you come out from
0:01:23 planet earth and there was this
0:01:25 imaginary button yes but you're a Muslim
0:01:28 so you pretend you're a Muslim is the
0:01:30 imaginary button you press it the whole
0:01:32 earth blows up and destroyed
0:01:36 it's not a great button time right let's
0:01:39 pretend that button exists you go now
0:01:41 you're on the moon on Mars you go there
0:01:43 button crazy button press the button
0:01:46 everyone blows up you think that's the
0:01:49 worst thing you can do to human beings
0:01:52 and it is I mean from his own
0:01:53 perspective killing one person is like
0:01:55 killing the whole of humanity right it
0:01:57 says in the Quran chapter 5 verse 32
0:01:59 that killing one person's like killing
0:02:00 the whole of humanity so killing murder
0:02:02 is one of the high sins in Islam it's
0:02:04 not like we don't appreciate murder we
0:02:06 do appreciate it well the ridiculous
0:02:08 statement I wanted to make to you as as
0:02:10 follows do you know that button that you
0:02:13 press in the murderer and all that stuff
0:02:14 if someone had pressed that button and
0:02:17 killed everyone and he was a Muslim it's
0:02:20 less severe then doing this thing called
0:02:24 [ __ ] it's less severe very severe very
0:02:28 very severe no doubt but it's less
0:02:30 severe than doing this think oh [ __ ]
0:02:31 what is [ __ ] then the question I mean
0:02:35 why should what is what is this thing
0:02:38 that you're so gay you press that button
0:02:40 what is it ok I'll tell you [ __ ]
0:02:47 is when you give the rights we believe
0:02:49 in God God the creator of the University
0:02:51 their heavens and earth everything em
0:02:53 they maintain at the sustaining cetera
0:02:56 shift is when you give the rights of God
0:02:59 to other god that's basically what are
0:03:02 the rights of God the rights of God from
0:03:04 the Islamic perspective are as follows
0:03:07 first and foremost the attributes of God
0:03:09 is as we know is all powerful all strong
0:03:12 all-knowing etc I'll come to that I'll
0:03:19 come to that can we can we put that into
0:03:21 a locker a footnote yeah all right
0:03:23 how can how is a good question I'll put
0:03:25 that so footnote please remind me of it
0:03:28 but let's presuppose he is all these
0:03:30 things he's all-knowing all-powerful all
0:03:33 everything yeah well powerful all loving
0:03:35 all merciful most merciful except rap
0:03:38 not what everything yes sir we have an
0:03:41 exaggeration one of those things that
0:03:42 just said most merciful most powerful
0:03:45 most wise etc yeah now yeah omnipotent
0:03:50 is all-powerful really yeah I'm Liberty
0:03:52 means all-powerful okay omni-benevolent
0:03:55 whatever okay the question would be this
0:03:59 and I want you to remember that question
0:04:02 I asked you before what makes the
0:04:04 difference between a tree and a human
0:04:06 being so why is it that if I cut down
0:04:07 the tree now most of humanity would say
0:04:09 that that's less of a crime than cutting
0:04:11 a human being into two the reason why
0:04:14 your subjective reasoning which I didn't
0:04:15 disagree with yeah I agreed with it
0:04:17 completely was that the tree has the
0:04:19 intrinsic values yeah that that tree has
0:04:23 are less superior than the intrinsic
0:04:26 value that the human being has the human
0:04:28 being has a higher level of attributes
0:04:32 or the character and the character of
0:04:33 the human being are superior to the tree
0:04:36 therefore the human being has been
0:04:37 allotted assigned more value by other
0:04:41 human beings and is therefore more
0:04:42 important than the tree okay we say the
0:04:46 following
0:04:49 what of what of an entity that has a
0:04:53 value that cannot have a value higher
0:04:57 than it let me say that one more time
0:05:00 what off what of an entity that has a
0:05:04 value that basically I'm not going to
0:05:08 use the word unlimited or an infinite
0:05:10 but can they cannot be a higher value
0:05:12 than it yeah I say the only possible
0:05:18 relationship and this is the Islamic
0:05:20 thesis the only possible relationship
0:05:23 you can have with that particular entity
0:05:25 is one of ultimate obedience ultimate
0:05:29 love ultimate love and ultimate fear let
0:05:35 me say that one more time
0:05:39 nothing is exactly exactly not only
0:05:46 power we said knowledge and wisdom so
0:05:48 all of your attributes that you have as
0:05:51 I'm sure you are I knew as well very
0:05:53 intelligent people right very clever
0:05:55 people etc all of those all those
0:05:59 characteristics that you have now
0:06:01 basically imagine that those
0:06:02 characteristics were that you can't get
0:06:05 higher than them basically that you are
0:06:06 the most powerful there's no one can
0:06:07 touch you no one can beat you no one can
0:06:09 no one knows more than you you know if
0:06:11 you bring all of human beings not forget
0:06:13 about this because sorry I'm going to
0:06:14 throw it at all of human beings forget
0:06:16 us we can score all of the human beings
0:06:18 in the whole world we put them together
0:06:19 and we have some kind of apparatus we
0:06:21 have some kind of mechanism we have some
0:06:23 kind of way of putting all those human
0:06:24 beings intelligence together and
0:06:27 aggregating all those are intelligent
0:06:29 into one thumb yeah we all of those
0:06:33 human beings would yet know would be
0:06:35 closer to knowing nothing and then there
0:06:37 would be no to knowing everything can
0:06:39 you imagine the level of ignorance we
0:06:40 have can you imagine the level of
0:06:43 ignorance we have we are ignorant there
0:06:45 are there's too much going on the
0:06:46 universe they're literally 2/3 of the
0:06:48 undersea that we have not explored yeah
0:06:52 and this is planet Earth imagine the
0:06:54 universe right that's human being I
0:06:58 imagine an entity that has all knowledge
0:07:00 he can hear all he's all seeing that is
0:07:04 an entity we're saying is untouchable in
0:07:07 that sense and that figurative sense of
0:07:09 course yeah we're saying is that the
0:07:12 only possible relationship you can have
0:07:14 with such an entity is one whereby
0:07:16 you're submissive to that entity you
0:07:18 cannot have another that is the most
0:07:20 that is the most appropriate in terms of
0:07:22 a pro proceed that is the most
0:07:23 appropriate relationship you can have
0:07:25 with an entity in the same way as you
0:07:29 would find killing that child an
0:07:33 egregious transgression of the human
0:07:38 rights of that child the case because of
0:07:43 the intrinsic characteristics of that
0:07:45 child
0:07:46 we say is the same reason why should
0:07:49 association of partners of God is the
0:07:53 most egregious transgression or crime
0:07:57 that anyone can make on anything in
0:08:00 other words just like the child has
0:08:01 rights the Creator the Creator has
0:08:03 rights yeah so once someone realigns the
0:08:10 appropriate relationship they should be
0:08:11 having with the creator and they realign
0:08:14 it to the creation we say that that is
0:08:16 the worst possible realignment
0:08:23 billions and billions of years time we
0:08:25 have literally seen everything done
0:08:27 everything whatsoever there's no illness
0:08:30 there's no human beings are perfect we
0:08:33 know everything let's see that
0:08:36 what happens that we have all the
0:08:38 knowledge in this why should we strive
0:08:41 to get there what I'm saying to you is
0:08:44 this that entity if we presupposes its
0:08:48 existence is a it doesn't have an end
0:08:50 right continues and we're saying that
0:08:53 human being will never reach a point
0:08:55 where knows everything by virtue of its
0:08:57 insignificance on the universe this
0:09:00 placement on the universal insignificant
0:09:02 placement we will never be able to
0:09:04 encompass all that which is around us
0:09:06 for that reason we say that look when
0:09:11 we're talking about that appropriate
0:09:13 relationship now we'll go back to our
0:09:15 analogy the ridiculous thing that we
0:09:17 said that I know in secular the secular
0:09:18 is it sounds like the most ridiculous
0:09:20 thing you can ever say not killing one
0:09:23 child killing all the children not
0:09:24 killing one human killing all the humans
0:09:26 press a button you litter on Mars press
0:09:28 one button every human being blows up
0:09:30 the whole planet Earth is is blown to
0:09:32 smithereens yet we're saying for Muslims
0:09:36 to do that it's one of the worst things
0:09:38 you can possibly do right you know go to
0:09:40 hell you know how dare you yeah well
0:09:44 that is not as bad as the person giving
0:09:47 the rights of God to other than good why
0:09:51 now you might say what the hell are you
0:09:53 talking about my friend what the hell
0:09:54 are you saying the reason why is because
0:09:58 the aggregate value of all of those
0:10:02 human beings on that planet earth as we
0:10:04 talked about value assignment this was a
0:10:06 big theme of what we were talking myself
0:10:07 the aggregate value of all those human
0:10:09 beings combined on that planet Earth
0:10:11 doesn't even amount to a drop in the
0:10:14 ocean compared to the value of God
0:10:15 therefore when we talk about God's value
0:10:19 in a pro proceeded when it comes to the
0:10:21 rights of God has a more severe
0:10:24 implication as a deeper consequence has
0:10:29 a higher ramification for that reason we
0:10:31 say this
0:10:34 we say that the most appropriate
0:10:37 relationship to have with an entity that
0:10:39 is all-powerful all-knowing we're
0:10:41 hearing etc is that relationship of
0:10:43 submission that's what Islam actually
0:10:45 means Aslam is submission to one God and
0:10:49 the biggest crime of humankind is to
0:10:52 misappropriate that relationship and to
0:10:55 assign the rights of God to other than
0:10:58 God that's the biggest crime that's from
0:11:00 my perspective the clearest thing I can
0:11:03 say about the Islamic thesis did you get
0:11:06 that now let's bring out the footnote
0:11:08 you were saying how do we know that God
0:11:09 is all-powerful or knowing or here in
0:11:11 the essential how do we know that I say
0:11:13 this let's go back to the dependency
0:11:15 because we were talking about and their
0:11:17 baby on the incubator
0:11:18 we're talking about as well you've been
0:11:20 being on a life machine right one theme
0:11:24 that will always come back to when we're
0:11:27 talking about these issues is
0:11:28 contingency is dependency contingency is
0:11:30 the penances right I say the following
0:11:35 in the realm that we live in
0:11:37 everything is contingent everything is
0:11:41 dependent in the realm that we live in
0:11:44 everything is dependent in the universe
0:11:47 everything is dependent something is
0:11:49 dependent upon something else
0:11:51 give me an example of something other
0:11:52 than that give me an example of one into
0:11:54 the independent entity that lives within
0:11:57 the universe and is with us now that we
0:11:59 can point the finger at empirically
0:12:01 Cianci there's nothing right everything
0:12:04 in the universe is dependent upon
0:12:05 something else the universe therefore
0:12:08 and before I'm accused by some atheist
0:12:13 of or someone of committing the value of
0:12:17 composition because there is a fallacy
0:12:19 called the valley of composition this is
0:12:20 not this is not reasoning by composition
0:12:23 this is an inductive type argument
0:12:26 actually if you think about I'm looking
0:12:27 at things that I can empirically see so
0:12:29 this inductive reasoning I'm saying that
0:12:31 here
0:12:33 the universe itself must be dependent
0:12:36 especially if you presuppose a beginning
0:12:37 to the universe which is the prevailing
0:12:39 theory in science okay if that is the
0:12:42 case what is it dependent on that's the
0:12:46 question and you continue going
0:12:47 backwards so it's depended upon
0:12:49 something else which is dependent it
0:12:51 needs and it needs it requires a
0:12:54 independent entity to say all of it
0:12:57 that's what it requires forget about the
0:13:04 world Allah Allah Arabic just means yeah
0:13:06 just means that good
0:13:07 that's what literally Allah just means
0:13:09 that God it's just an Arabic word we
0:13:11 Christians cool God Allah in Arabic
0:13:14 Christian Arabs they cook God Allah Eli
0:13:17 is very close to Allah Eli Eli Lema
0:13:19 sabachthani my father's in the Bible you
0:13:22 know God God why have you forsaken me
0:13:23 Eli I let myself in aramaic eli the our
0:13:26 make eli is very similar to the word
0:13:28 allah now the point is this we're saying
0:13:34 that there's an entity that came before
0:13:36 the universe which is independent we
0:13:40 asked ourselves what other attributes
0:13:41 must this entity have had in order to
0:13:45 bring rise to the universe to cause the
0:13:46 universe unless someone says i don't
0:13:49 believe in causation which is something
0:13:51 some people say they throw all of the
0:13:53 laws of logic out the window I'm beloved
0:13:54 code that you find even if you don't
0:13:56 believe in causation what must this
0:13:58 entity have had in order to allow
0:14:00 foreign for another entity which that is
0:14:03 dependent upon this entity to exist they
0:14:07 must have had knowledge no when you look
0:14:09 at the fine-tuning of the universe and
0:14:12 you look at all of the constants being
0:14:14 completely finely tuned all of these
0:14:16 things must require knowledge it must
0:14:20 have had power no it must have high
0:14:22 power because within our power
0:14:24 it couldn't be interdependent it
0:14:26 couldn't be independent or
0:14:27 it must have had a seeing ability and
0:14:30 hearing ability no because how could it
0:14:32 visualize how could it sketch the plan
0:14:34 as it were and bring it to existence so
0:14:37 the things that we would were talking
0:14:39 about the attributes of God are actually
0:14:41 logically reasoned they're not illogical
0:14:44 they are logically reasoned let me tell
0:14:46 you something let me tell you something
0:14:48 let me ask you something imagine now we
0:14:54 walk in speaker's corner I'm being a
0:14:55 hundred percent serious I'll be the
0:14:56 hundred percent serious we're walking in
0:14:59 a speaker's corner and we see a bowl
0:15:03 hey Manawa what do we see we see a bowl
0:15:06 a large bowl hovering okay hovering is
0:15:11 in the middle here of speakers gone up
0:15:12 with it a ball hovering would I say
0:15:18 where did that ball come from what are
0:15:20 you gonna say no idea is fine it's good
0:15:24 fair enough
0:15:26 what are you gonna say you know that
0:15:30 ball came from nothing would you say
0:15:34 that that ball came from nothing you
0:15:36 never say that because we know that
0:15:38 something cannot come from nothing okay
0:15:42 good
0:15:43 are we going to say that there are an
0:15:45 infinite amount of balls and this is
0:15:47 just one of them then that sound like a
0:15:50 reasonable conclusion there's an
0:15:52 infinite amount of balls and it's just
0:15:53 one of them maybe you say no you know if
0:15:58 I said listen the ball created itself
0:16:03 you're gonna say it's not possible
0:16:04 because you can't exist and not exist at
0:16:06 the same time so you'd say about the
0:16:10 board at the poll hello creator of some
0:16:11 source an intelligent creator of some
0:16:14 sorts does that sound like the most
0:16:16 reasonable conclusion it does doesn't it
0:16:19 let me tell you something today that
0:16:22 board is the universe the universe that
0:16:24 we live in is literally an expanding
0:16:26 ball in space can you imagine the
0:16:30 universe we live in now is an expanding
0:16:32 ball in space the same options apply the
0:16:37 same exact the same exact options apply
0:16:41 so we say the ball of the universe which
0:16:44 is expanding must have had a creator
0:16:48 must have had an intelligent force
0:16:50 behind it we call that intelligent force
0:16:52 Allah we do yeah we don't say it's
0:16:55 three-in-one entity we call it just is
0:16:56 one entity that created that does that
0:16:58 make sense
0:16:59 okay now the creator of that ball
0:17:04 assigned purpose for everything inside
0:17:06 of that ball all right and human beings
0:17:09 which he also created the assigned
0:17:11 purpose and gave them value and he also
0:17:15 gave the human being an ability to
0:17:17 recognize the ball to recognize him so
0:17:20 another world yeah an ability to
0:17:23 recognize him
0:17:26 then he reminded the human being he
0:17:30 reminded the human being using human
0:17:32 beings other human beings sending a
0:17:34 medium which we call an angel
0:17:37 wait a minute it's in this fairy tale
0:17:38 this mythology talking about angels now
0:17:41 my friend no no hold on yes it's a
0:17:45 metaphysical reality and angels a
0:17:47 metaphysical reality I believe is a
0:17:48 metaphysical construct religious
0:17:49 construct which we can't see your touch
0:17:51 over here but just because you can't see
0:17:53 something secular is once again when
0:17:55 they hear the words angel I know how it
0:17:57 feels
0:17:57 yeah when you hear the word angels or
0:17:59 Devils or sometimes I don't believe in
0:18:00 that angels no man we've already
0:18:02 dispelled all of those kind of things in
0:18:05 there in the Enlightenment period don't
0:18:07 bring me back to these angels and devils
0:18:09 hold on I know I know I know you've
0:18:12 heard this before call them what you
0:18:15 call them they're angels yeah
0:18:17 these angels these mediums communicated
0:18:22 who have selected human beings are for
0:18:24 time we believe that connected with many
0:18:28 human beings all of which told the
0:18:31 people the same message which was to
0:18:34 basically submit to the intelligence
0:18:37 behind the creating of the board for the
0:18:39 reason we talked about before it's the
0:18:41 most appropriate relationship we can
0:18:42 have with that creator is to to submit
0:18:45 to them that crater that's the only
0:18:47 relationship and only then will you find
0:18:49 peace and tranquility yeah you will not
0:18:51 find peace and tranquillity doing your
0:18:53 own thing or trying to find your own
0:18:54 purpose that is the message of the
0:18:58 prophets all of them so we believe in
0:19:00 Jesus so we believe in Abraham we
0:19:01 believe in Moses the final prophet we
0:19:04 believe is Mohammed yeah who came to the
0:19:06 Arabs but also to all of human kidney or
0:19:07 human beings yep
0:19:11 now does that make sense okay so that's
0:19:14 the best that's what we believe in
0:19:17 that's why we're Muslims yeah but it's
0:19:20 not just that it's not just the fact
0:19:22 that we believe in that we believe in
0:19:25 that all of the prophets that came to
0:19:28 their respective people's came with two
0:19:30 things a message which was the same
0:19:32 message of the soul journal and some
0:19:34 kind of evidence base and the evidence
0:19:37 base is different depending on the
0:19:39 prophet and depending on the customs of
0:19:41 the people so for example Moses he split
0:19:44 the sea we believe in this yeah we
0:19:46 believe that Moses split the sea Jesus
0:19:48 killed the day erased
0:19:49 Roza debt with God's permission he cured
0:19:51 the blind with God's permission we
0:19:52 believe in are those things we don't
0:19:54 disbelieve in those things
0:19:55 we don't believe that he was going on
0:19:56 the Son of God we don't believe that
0:19:57 yeah but we believe that he was the
0:19:59 Messiah and