Mohammed Hijab interviews Dr. Bart Ehrman on Jesus Christ and Biblical Corruption (2021-11-06) ​

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Mohammed Hijab interviews Dr. Bart Ehrman about the reliability of the New Testament. Ehrman comes to the conclusion that the New Testament is not reliable and is full of discrepancies. Muslims in Norway are establishing a Masjid and Dawa Center to further strengthen the Norwegian Tawa (welcome).

00:00:00 Mohammed Hijab interviews Bart Ehrman about the reliability of the New Testament. Ehrman comes to the conclusion that the New Testament is not reliable and is full of discrepancies. Muslims in Norway are establishing a Masjid and Dawa Center to further strengthen the Norwegian Tawa (welcome). If you donate to the Schools, you will insha allah reap the rewards of thousands of Muslims coming back to Islam. Click the link and donate now, and share the video for extra rewards. With Allah, how are you doing?

Mohammed Hijab interviews Bart Ehrman about the reliability of the New Testament. Ehrman comes to the conclusion that the New Testament is not reliable and is full of discrepancies. Muslims in Norway are establishing a Masjid and Dawa Center to further strengthen the Norwegian Tawa (welcome). If you donate to the Schools, you will insha allah reap the rewards of thousands of Muslims coming back to Islam. Click the link and donate now, and share the video for extra rewards.

• 00:05:00 Mohammed Hijab, a former Christian who left the faith 25 years ago, discusses his reasons for studying the New Testament. He points out that text criticism is not simply about deciding whether what the authors wrote was true or not, but understanding what they actually wrote. Hijab also argues that Christianity conquered the Roman Empire, and the New Testament is at the root of this. His passion for the New Testament is due in part to the fact that it is an important historical phenomenon.
• 00:10:00 Mohammed Hijab interviews Dr. Bart Ehrman about the inconsistencies between the Islamic and Christian faiths, and whether or not Christ is more similar to the Muslim idea of God than the Christian one. Dr. Ehrman agrees that there are some parallels between the two religions, but believes that Christ is ultimately more unique and different than Allah.

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0:00:00 muslims in norway are now establishing a0:00:02 masjid and dawa center to enhance the0:00:04 norwegian tawa if you donate to the0:00:06 schools you will insha allah reap the0:00:08 rewards of thousands of muslims coming0:00:11 back to islam and many of those who0:00:13 become dwight and invite to islam so0:00:15 click the link and donate now and share0:00:18 the video for extra rewards0:00:20 with allah how are you guys doing and0:00:23 welcome um0:00:24 on behalf0:00:25 of islam net in fact who which is a0:00:27 norwegian organization organization0:00:29 which aims to create bridges between0:00:30 muslim and non-muslim communities0:00:32 they're doing some great work we are0:00:34 joined with an esteemed0:00:36 uh legendary you know professor0:00:39 professor bar ehrman many of you already0:00:41 know who he is but if you don't know i'm0:00:43 going to quickly tell you0:00:45 um has written or edited 33 books0:00:47 including six new new york times0:00:50 bestsellers how jesus became god0:00:52 misquoting jesus0:00:53 um god's problem jesus interrupted0:00:56 forged and the triumph0:00:58 of christianity bart is uh james a grey0:01:01 distinguished professor of religious0:01:02 studies at the university of north0:01:03 carolina carolina chapel hill where he0:01:06 has taught thousands of students and won0:01:08 numerous awards0:01:09 um you know bart's work has been0:01:11 featured in the new york times0:01:12 washington post uh the new uh newsweek0:01:15 has appeared on national geographic cnn0:01:17 bbc nbc uh dateline and many other0:01:20 places as well um how are you uh today0:01:23 professor yep i'm i'm doing well thanks0:01:25 doing well0:01:26 i i think many people will know who you0:01:28 are especially from um kind of our0:01:31 follower base because of your kind of0:01:33 work and how it's had an impact0:01:36 on kind of apologetics whether it's0:01:37 christian apologetics uh islamic0:01:39 apologetics or otherwise even new0:01:42 atheists reference your work and so it's0:01:44 really um a pleasure to have you on i0:01:47 think the first question i'd like to ask0:01:49 you um regarding your line of specialism0:01:52 is0:01:53 about the reliability of the new0:01:54 testament okay um0:01:56 first and foremost you you came to a0:01:58 conclusion in your own life in your own0:02:00 kind of development0:02:02 that the new testament is not reliable0:02:05 why did you come to that conclusion0:02:07 yeah you know and part i did come to0:02:09 that conclusion i started out as a as a0:02:11 very conservative fundamentalist0:02:13 christian who uh believed that every0:02:15 word in the bible was completely true0:02:18 and that there were no errors of any0:02:20 kind0:02:20 scientific geographical historical0:02:23 anything0:02:24 and over time i came to realize that uh0:02:26 that that wasn't right and in part it0:02:28 was because i recognized i finally i was0:02:31 i was open to any point of view i came i0:02:34 came to recognize that in fact there are0:02:36 discrepancies and uh and contradictions0:02:40 in the new testament just say between0:02:42 the gospels uh and their accounts of0:02:44 jesus or between what the book of acts0:02:46 says about paul what paul says about0:02:48 paul or about so they're they're0:02:49 discrepancies and obviously if they're0:02:51 discrepancies they both both views0:02:53 stated can't can't be true so the the0:02:56 trick is though what does it mean to be0:02:58 unreliable0:02:59 i mean if you've got a0:03:01 you know if you've got a friend who uh0:03:04 who's giving you directions and about0:03:05 ten percent of the time they're wrong0:03:08 you know you don't know if you can trust0:03:09 him or not but it's not that he's like0:03:11 completely unreliable it's just you have0:03:13 to figure out once he when's he got it0:03:15 right and not and that's how it is with0:03:16 that's how it is with the new testament0:03:18 especially you've got to figure out0:03:20 where it's right and and where there are0:03:22 mistakes0:03:23 and how how can one figure that out in0:03:26 in layman's terms like if if now many0:03:28 christians may be watching this and say0:03:30 well they object to this fact and they0:03:32 believe that every word and every0:03:33 sentence0:03:34 of the bible is in fact inspired by god0:03:36 and that they're they believe in0:03:38 biblical inerrancy they don't believe0:03:39 that there's any such thing as an error0:03:41 in the bible they'll be0:03:43 very much taken aback by what you're0:03:44 saying and say we find it objectionable0:03:46 in fact so what would you do in order to0:03:48 prove to them that this is not the case0:03:50 well you know that as i said that's how0:03:51 i started out too i when i graduated0:03:53 from high school i went to uh moody0:03:55 bible institute in chicago which is a0:03:58 it's a bastion of fundamentalism and i0:04:00 was completely i was completely sold for0:04:02 years so this is absolutely there is not0:04:04 a word wrong in the bible um it was0:04:07 finally when i started i learned greek0:04:10 so i could read the new testament in0:04:11 greek and i learned hebrews i could read0:04:13 the old testament in hebrew and i0:04:14 started and i started really studying0:04:16 these texts very closely and i started0:04:19 finding that there are uh you know there0:04:21 there are discrepancies i mean mark will0:04:23 say one thing and matthew will say0:04:25 something else and it's the opposite0:04:26 thing you don't know this unless you0:04:29 really look closely but when you do that0:04:31 then you see this and so so yeah how do0:04:33 you go about finding out what's right0:04:35 well you do it the way any historian0:04:37 finds out what happened in the past i0:04:38 mean if you're talking about uh you know0:04:41 uh abraham lincoln or the emperor0:04:43 constantine or whatever churchill you0:04:45 you you have to historians look at all0:04:48 the evidence they consider who's writing0:04:50 it they consider how close it is to the0:04:52 source they consider how many sources0:04:54 they have they see if they're consistent0:04:56 with each other they they uh you know0:04:58 they they try to work out what what most0:05:00 plausibly happened and that's all you0:05:02 can do with the new testament too you0:05:03 treat it like a historical source if you0:05:05 want to know what happened historically0:05:08 i mean uh just a bit of my background0:05:10 that at one point when i was um actually0:05:12 auditing a course at the university of0:05:14 oxford0:05:15 doing um on text criticism it's not0:05:17 something i actually specialize in0:05:18 myself but i did audit a text criticism0:05:21 course as part of my0:05:22 um applied0:05:25 applied0:05:26 theology masters and i knew for a fact0:05:29 that i was well over my kind of people0:05:32 were on a different level i mean you0:05:33 have to have0:05:35 like you said language skills and i said0:05:36 this is a specialism in and of itself0:05:38 you need to have language skills there0:05:39 are you know polygons people have many0:05:41 different languages under their belt0:05:43 like you said hebrew and and greek and0:05:46 sometimes other languages as well0:05:48 and so i do really respect the level of0:05:51 work that comes into you know your line0:05:53 of specialism0:05:55 someone has to learn this language and0:05:57 then manuscript0:05:58 uh kind of analysis and and looking at0:06:02 trying to draw inferences from it and0:06:03 stuff like this is it really is the work0:06:06 of such and you've been doing this for0:06:07 that many years so obviously0:06:09 um it was only then really when i0:06:10 started to realize how heavy this was in0:06:12 terms of0:06:13 being able to be a great0:06:15 text critic it's not something that0:06:17 someone could just do in a year or two0:06:18 it's something that one must actually0:06:20 dedicate a considerable chunk of their0:06:22 life but i'm wondering why you decided0:06:25 to do so because when i was looking at0:06:26 some of0:06:27 the videos about your story you left0:06:29 christianity because of this reason from0:06:31 what i understand but what kept you0:06:34 interested in this topic0:06:36 so um what i so i got i got interest i0:06:39 got interested in text criticism so some0:06:41 people may not know exactly what that0:06:43 means it doesn't really just mean0:06:44 interpretation of text as you said it0:06:46 has to do with manuscripts you with the0:06:48 new testament uh we have thousands of0:06:50 manuscripts but they have many many0:06:52 differences between them and so since we0:06:55 don't have the originals we have to look0:06:57 at these manuscripts to find out what0:06:58 the what the authors originally wrote0:07:01 and so text criticism is not deciding0:07:04 whether what the authors wrote was true0:07:06 or not it's just finding out what did0:07:08 they actually write and it's not just0:07:10 the new testaments every book from0:07:11 antiquity is like this so every every0:07:13 you know shakespeare is like this or a0:07:15 cl i'm chaucer i mean everybody all0:07:17 these books you've got to figure out the0:07:18 author wrote so i got interested in that0:07:21 because i i believed that the original0:07:22 words were inspired by god and so i0:07:25 wanted to know what the words were since0:07:27 we have all these manuscripts that have0:07:28 differences in them so that's what got0:07:29 me going what kept me going is um was0:07:33 somewhat different i actually did leave0:07:35 the faith about 25 years ago i stopped0:07:37 being a christian and it wasn't actually0:07:40 because of the scholarship it turned the0:07:42 reason i left the faith was um was not0:07:45 because i knew the bible had mistakes or0:07:46 i knew that for a long time and i stayed0:07:49 a christian for a long time knowing that0:07:51 what that made me leave the faith was0:07:53 being i got to a point where i just0:07:55 couldn't believe that there was a god0:07:57 who is in the world who is active a0:07:59 loving powerful god who's active in the0:08:01 world0:08:02 given all of the massive suffering that0:08:04 people experience i just thought you0:08:06 know i just don't believe it anymore but0:08:08 then why do i continue being a new0:08:10 testament scholar i'm passionate about0:08:12 the new testament i'm passionate about0:08:13 the study of early christianity and0:08:15 largely it's because it is such an0:08:17 important historical phenomenon and0:08:19 christianity took over the entire roman0:08:21 empire and became the religion of the0:08:24 western world basically i mean the0:08:26 dominant religion of the western world0:08:28 and there's still more christians in the0:08:29 world than anything else it's like whoa0:08:31 it's really important and the new0:08:33 testament is at the very root of it's0:08:35 the foundation of it and so it's0:08:37 important for me to understand what the0:08:39 foundation is0:08:40 and to try and teach other people what0:08:41 the foundation is because most people0:08:43 really don't know uh and so that's why0:08:47 well i mean your work as as i've said0:08:49 it's not just applicable or relevant to0:08:51 kind of christians it's very much0:08:53 relevant to muslims as well because as0:08:55 you know in the islamic faith muslims0:08:57 believe in jesus christ as well and0:08:59 obviously there's competing narrative0:09:00 ideas as to who jesus christ was in fact0:09:04 and0:09:04 um the main i would say the fundamental0:09:07 difference between the kind of muslim0:09:08 faith in the christian faith in this0:09:09 regard0:09:10 is that0:09:11 muslims view jesus christ as a prophet0:09:14 and a mess as a messenger prophet and0:09:16 the messiah but not as god or the son of0:09:18 god in fact they0:09:20 you know the quran is very explicit that0:09:21 he doesn't0:09:22 um he doesn't claim to be a he doesn't0:09:24 claim to be a god himself in fact this0:09:27 is seen as a fabricated or some kind of0:09:28 a contrivance0:09:30 on the on the narrative and really the0:09:32 the islamic idea is that there cannot be0:09:34 someone it's not intelligible or0:09:36 conceivable or pardonable uh for someone0:09:39 with a date of birth to be referred to0:09:41 as god anyway so0:09:42 jesus christ will be disqualified from0:09:44 from that perspective but this is why0:09:46 there's there's a lot of interest i0:09:48 think from the muslim community0:09:50 on0:09:51 um0:09:52 on your kind of work because this is0:09:54 historical work that's being done and0:09:56 many muslims feel that kind of your0:09:58 vision of or your conclusions your0:09:59 historical conclusions of who jesus0:10:01 christ is is more commensurate with at0:10:03 least the muslim idea than it is with0:10:07 the christian one to what extent would0:10:09 you agree or disagree with that notion0:10:23 you