Firas Zahabi Talks Religion, Consciousness and Meaning of Life. (2018-03-30) ​

0:00:00 all right somali my love I guess the
0:00:03 guys I'm here joined with someone who's
0:00:06 very well known frankly in the MMA
0:00:08 community he's been described as one of
0:00:13 if not the best MMA coaches in the world
0:00:17 actually and our good friend Joe Rogan
0:00:20 who have made a video about recently as
0:00:23 people actually described it was such a
0:00:26 description we should get a video we'll
0:00:30 get a kind of joke and saying this just
0:00:32 to see exactly what he said second
0:00:34 authority say you've got okay ross the
0:00:37 hobby who is probably my first choice or
0:00:40 one of them he'd be my number one him or
0:00:42 lessor bowling has a striking coach
0:00:44 means everything I'm not human for us a
0:00:51 hobby to me are commensurate I think
0:00:53 they're exactly the same level they're
0:00:54 both wizards those guys their masters
0:00:57 Matt Hume had more in the may fights I
0:01:00 think the ferocity cake boxing fights
0:01:02 but for us is like nasty on the ground
0:01:04 and he's a super genius when it comes to
0:01:06 like his analytical mind Wade breaks
0:01:08 down fights he breaks down street fights
0:01:09 his YouTube videos where he goes down
0:01:11 yeah it breaks down how this guy came
0:01:13 out of guy and got cracked this guy with
0:01:14 a left hook and he explains the footwork
0:01:16 draws it a diagram he's also young yeah
0:01:18 you know what he also does well or he's
0:01:20 testing guard work and ground and pound
0:01:23 on guards what guard works best for
0:01:25 Brandon he did this [ __ ] he put her on
0:01:28 YouTube he put it up so he had him him
0:01:32 Gary toden and I think Gordon Ryan
0:01:35 they had like some dude jump with with
0:01:38 boxing gloves jump in their guard and
0:01:40 start pounding us back and and in the
0:01:42 video guys
0:01:44 I'm not going to kiss anybody someone
0:01:48 who's going hi not Surrency India and a
0:01:50 big community what people don't know
0:01:52 about him Russia heavy what we don't
0:01:57 know about France Abbey is that he's
0:01:58 actually very well grounded in
0:02:00 philosophy and it's becoming even more
0:02:02 grounded now in theology as well just
0:02:05 get a slide for us from what was your
0:02:08 kind of experience with theology you
0:02:10 were telling me something about your dad
0:02:12 when you yeah when I was young you know
0:02:14 my father he came mm-hmm from Lebanon
0:02:17 with not much of an education he was a
0:02:20 mechanic he really grew up in the
0:02:22 garages learning a trade you know in
0:02:24 that time you didn't really go to school
0:02:25 for long of course there was a civil war
0:02:27 in Lebanon so they the they were
0:02:30 refugees to Canada etc yeah well my
0:02:34 introduction is not the first time I
0:02:35 heard about Islam was my father preached
0:02:37 that I come to preach to his kids to
0:02:38 teach them that Dean we should have a
0:02:40 religion yeah and I remember those
0:02:42 lessons really well quite well and they
0:02:45 served me my entire life and I would say
0:02:47 gave me even an edge in life because all
0:02:50 my peers were not Muslim the 99%
0:02:53 Christian or Jewish and and a lot of
0:02:57 seculars secular families and kids etc
0:03:01 and there was what there was some
0:03:03 lessons that really myself helped me out
0:03:05 through life and gave me a strong edge
0:03:07 because I found like especially in the
0:03:08 West people struggle very emotionally
0:03:10 they're very emotionally involved and
0:03:13 they have their ups and downs
0:03:14 emotionally but my emotions were always
0:03:16 very in check and it was one one thing
0:03:20 that he told me that I think if I feel
0:03:22 calm if a regular person were to hear it
0:03:24 they were taken at heart that would be
0:03:25 shocked and he was like he told me ask
0:03:27 me who do you love more your mother or
0:03:29 your God Oh is maybe eight or nine maybe
0:03:32 ten years old you ask me what's more
0:03:34 dear to your mother or not there's the
0:03:37 young kids and my mother
0:03:38 well I didn't think much about the odd
0:03:40 or whatnot and he said to me no he said
0:03:42 think about it we questioned me very
0:03:44 gently very nicely said who gave you
0:03:46 your mother who gave you everything you
0:03:47 have you have to trace back everything
0:03:49 thank you guys
0:03:50 I need something look maybe one day your
0:03:52 mother she gets sick and dies and you're
0:03:55 alone you can't base your life on one
0:03:57 person you can't be selected on money or
0:04:01 fame or fortune because all these things
0:04:03 can be gone it can be taken off from
0:04:04 underneath you
0:04:05 and told me you always have to depend on
0:04:08 God firstly for us above all and this
0:04:12 gave me a very very strong mental
0:04:16 grounding yeah because anything that
0:04:18 happened to me in life anything about it
0:04:20 happened to me in life in your season
0:04:21 someone there's nothing that's gonna
0:04:23 come your way and I have God never sent
0:04:26 to an officer going yes
0:04:28 you cannot hand that home so when
0:04:30 something would come my way I'd be
0:04:31 nervous I'd be scared and it gave me a
0:04:34 strong courage and it made me very very
0:04:38 know how to say but maybe very good with
0:04:41 the relationships because I would never
0:04:44 try to behave in a way to make you like
0:04:48 me because I was never on my I was never
0:04:51 like a suck up to people yeah because I
0:04:53 would never see somebody else mean
0:04:55 everybody was there was God and then
0:04:58 there was everybody else so you never I
0:05:00 never put people up on a pedestal so to
0:05:02 speak I think that helped me
0:05:04 tremendously because when I would see my
0:05:06 competitors or I would see somebody
0:05:07 intimidating obstacle I would as always
0:05:10 remind myself don't look at them so hot
0:05:14 in so many big moments in sports
0:05:16 terrible
0:05:17 now as for myself this is nothing but
0:05:19 big of a deal
0:05:22 and always lowered things are used to
0:05:24 create intimidation resonate for a lot
0:05:34 of people by early 90s and obviously a
0:05:36 lot people in the West don't believe in
0:05:39 business how would you reason to say it
0:05:43 atheist or someone else doesn't believe
0:05:45 in God the existence of God would you
0:05:48 say well you see there are three ways of
0:05:51 knowing something primarily let's just
0:05:53 keep it really basic ok this
0:05:54 philosophies it's a notion the primary
0:05:58 way you can have something to your
0:05:59 senses where you touch smell taste we're
0:06:02 here empiricism then we have deduction
0:06:05 mathematics one two three four
0:06:08 things are in order one plus one equals
0:06:10 two yeah I think we have a third a third
0:06:12 way of knowing something it's called
0:06:13 intuition
0:06:15 now intuition nobody can debate your
0:06:19 intuition so you can tell me the
0:06:23 temperature of that team we can measure
0:06:25 it its objective we can tell you the
0:06:29 number of people on the ship confident
0:06:31 about it however the tastes of the team
0:06:34 or what it's like to be you is all
0:06:36 intuitive and you have something to us
0:06:40 we call consciousness we are self-aware
0:06:43 this self-awareness is something
0:06:47 metaphysical it is beyond physics we
0:06:49 cannot put it in a test there's a part
0:06:51 of us we could not put in a test so it
0:06:53 reminds me of a little example I like to
0:06:57 give a little question like basketball
0:06:59 because you know I often often try to
0:07:02 teach people about self-reflection and
0:07:05 consciousness and in today the the West
0:07:07 so dominated by materialism yeah it
0:07:10 seems to be that for those who don't
0:07:12 know what is it what is materialism
0:07:14 that's such a great question that's why
0:07:15 this little anecdote is something that I
0:07:17 think really helps people learn the
0:07:20 difference between the great questions
0:07:24 on substance philosophy so basic
0:07:26 question your basic basic thought
0:07:28 experiment
0:07:29 I'm building a robot yeah okay and we
0:07:31 talked about this video for the audience
0:07:44 for spotting I take some of his lines
0:07:57 yes I like tell people okay let's say
0:07:59 we're building a robot trying to learn
0:08:01 that deep philosophical question and
0:08:04 trying to learn it through a fun
0:08:05 experience more easy than the
0:08:06 long-winded explanation yeah we're
0:08:08 building a robot okay so the robot
0:08:10 instead of skinny has sheet metal
0:08:12 instead of bones yes steel steel steel
0:08:15 bones instead of blood he has oil
0:08:18 instead of a heart he has a pump instead
0:08:21 of an eye he has a camera instead of
0:08:23 this he has everything is machine he
0:08:27 talks like you acts like he has a
0:08:28 program we programmed him to talk like
0:08:31 you
0:08:31 we programmed him to think like you to
0:08:33 learn like you he has your IQ if I pinch
0:08:35 it he says ow
0:08:36 if I tell him a joke he laughs but I
0:08:39 programmed him to do this
0:08:41 then one he's exactly like me the only
0:08:44 thing we know the difference between you
0:08:45 and him is he's made of steel when we
0:08:47 touch him your flesh and bone he's still
0:08:49 and then one day I come and I destroy
0:08:53 this comedy jack 2.0
0:08:55 now the question AB there's no wrong
0:08:58 answer right now it's not see we're not
0:08:59 trying to see a right or wrong answer
0:09:00 I'm asking then I commit murder or did I
0:09:03 destroy a property I destroy a property
0:09:06 yeah so somebody who says I committed a
0:09:09 murder he would say look I'm a
0:09:11 materialist meaning the only thing that
0:09:13 exists and there are people many people
0:09:15 are there who are materialist they
0:09:17 believe that the only thing that exists
0:09:19 is a material substance they would say
0:09:21 look that how much each app 2.0 is
0:09:23 exactly like he should have his rights
0:09:25 like you he's 100% and human because
0:09:30 there's nothing more to you than
0:09:32 substance material material substance
0:09:35 now the people who say no no you just
0:09:37 damage property we gotta ask them okay
0:09:40 what was missing what was the difference
0:09:43 what's the difference
0:09:45 Perry's not too bad what is the answer
0:09:48 to that question
0:09:50 then they're going to the primal
0:09:52 consciousness there's a problem of
0:09:54 course how do you know consciousness do
0:09:56 you know it deductively mathematics or
0:09:58 do you not in pearson empirically
0:09:59 through your senses but either we know
0:10:03 it intuitively now because we know
0:10:07 something intuitively that shows us that
0:10:10 science is not absolute I love science I
0:10:12 could sit here great science for one
0:10:14 hour if you like but I'm gonna save you
0:10:16 one out I can't take my word for it I'm
0:10:18 intrigued by science I'll read up on
0:10:21 science I believe in science I think
0:10:23 it's one way to know something yeah
0:10:25 however does it tell me the truth with a
0:10:27 capital T as I like to say man not true
0:10:29 everyday too comfortable to it yeah
0:10:31 where I can have to leave me here yeah
0:10:33 no I'm talking about the true
0:10:35 philosophers interested in the truth
0:10:37 that capital P yeah that's I can't
0:10:40 science gave me in the capital T true
0:10:42 the answer is no because it couldn't
0:10:47 tell me even about my own consciousness
0:10:49 so like this one of the great thinkers
0:10:51 that I'm very passionately well he said
0:10:54 look think about it this way if I were
0:10:56 really tiny thought experiment and I was
0:10:59 walking around in your brain I would see
0:11:02 neurons firing I would see blood flowing
0:11:04 I would see a brain a physical brain I
0:11:06 would see all sorts of things but I
0:11:07 wouldn't see life I wouldn't see your
0:11:10 thoughts you know what if you're the
0:11:12 song you're playing you and your head
0:11:14 that you're saying that you hear in your
0:11:15 mind I want to hear it all I would see
0:11:17 was the information yeah now this
0:11:19 information is being transformed
0:11:20 somewhere somehow through an experience
0:11:23 but this experience is outside the test
0:11:26 tube as I like so I can't put it in the
0:11:28 testing it's what we call in philosophy
0:11:30 metaphysical
0:11:31 it is not physical so if I'm gonna adopt
0:11:35 a dogmatic scientific method
0:11:38 meaningless science or nothing I'm
0:11:41 denying the thing that makes me most
0:11:43 unit the thing that's in my face 24
0:11:47 hours a day that cannot divide and you
0:11:49 know this is a lot of philosophy in a
0:11:52 few minutes you know we have the capito
0:11:53 I think therefore I am which proves
0:11:55 intuition is above all first it's the
0:11:58 first thing that you know it's actually
0:11:59 the only thing that we know now we were
0:12:03 talking earlier today what is the
0:12:04 difference between believing something
0:12:06 and knowing something for those who
0:12:07 don't know some beautiful
0:12:09 Carlito's something that they card said
0:12:11 that many people misunderstand I said
0:12:12 look I think therefore I have people
0:12:15 that worry you got finally figured out
0:12:16 if he exists hahahaha
0:12:19 it's not that he figured out he exists
0:12:21 he knew that before when he figured out
0:12:24 is that I now know something I don't
0:12:28 believe something because everything is
0:12:29 bullied save people to that point he
0:12:34 said look let me cross examine
0:12:36 everything I believe and he found out
0:12:39 that everything he believed he could
0:12:40 down his dog was so extreme we call it
0:12:44 Cartesian doubt modern philosophy most
0:12:48 philosophers will agree most scholars
0:12:49 will agree it started with bacon because
0:12:52 he did something so different that the
0:12:54 Greeks didn't do it was always said he's
0:13:00 quite a copy of God
0:13:02 again I just started to touch I said
0:13:05 it's work and when I read out so amazed
0:13:07 how similar or less you go they catch
0:13:09 word and it comes over a hundred years
0:13:11 before yeah it's incredible how the
0:13:17 Islamic philosophers were so fascinating
0:13:19 and you know at the senior touches on a
0:13:22 very interesting experiment it calls at
0:13:24 the floating man experiments a muslim
0:13:26 phosphorus caller said look imagine you
0:13:28 are floating man i'm still looking in
0:13:33 today
0:13:36 the floating man experiment says ok
0:13:38 imagine we take away your pinky where
0:13:41 you here take away your face you're
0:13:43 floating in the air ok we take away that
0:13:45 dunya everything's gone you take away
0:13:46 one thing out a final you're just
0:13:48 floating even we take away your seat
0:13:51 your spatial orientation is there still
0:13:55 something an answer if you think about
0:13:57 it yes there's a consciousness what do
0:14:00 you conscious of nothing really but you
0:14:02 still there's a consciousness and he
0:14:05 says you see he took it a different
0:14:06 trajectory but he found something that
0:14:09 you cannot put in a test that's beyond
0:14:12 yet it's beyond physical problems you
0:14:15 know see dick are assuming that
0:14:17 Aristotle
0:14:20 he made a lot of Socrates's lessons very
0:14:23 easy to understand so Socrates would
0:14:26 tell you okay look at this knife see
0:14:29 this knife if I show you a knife in
0:14:32 metal and I show you a knife in plastic
0:14:34 and I'll show you a knife made of wood
0:14:36 and then I show you a drawing of a knife
0:14:39 you're gonna tell me that's the nine
0:14:40 dots and I've got some they're all lives
0:14:42 and you're gonna tell me they're all
0:14:45 knives because they all have something
0:14:46 in common
0:14:47 this thing they have in common we call
0:14:51 it the essence so this table has the
0:14:55 same property as all other tables in the
0:14:58 history of the world every one of me did
0:15:00 they all shared in something we call
0:15:02 table miss the essence if you change the
0:15:05 essence you change the thing it's a
0:15:08 fight thickness table and I make it make
0:15:09 to check out of this unit likes no
0:15:11 longer a table it's not too thick I
0:15:13 changed the essence yeah so comedy job
0:15:17 after the age of seven every single cell
0:15:20 in his body has been changed according
0:15:22 to modern eyes
0:15:24 every single cell in your body is done
0:15:27 properly place it's been replaced by a
0:15:30 new material now how can we say you're
0:15:34 the same comedy chat we do say this is
0:15:38 known as the fellowship of thesis so
0:15:40 thesis was a Greek ship the ship had 99
0:15:44 parts every month one part was changed
0:15:48 put in the garage somewhere as the part
0:15:51 would get old
0:15:52 so after ninety nine months a paraphrase
0:15:56 the ship was brand new parts so the ship
0:16:00 of thesis we're still riding on it seem
0:16:02 license people see it that's a sister
0:16:05 ship
0:16:06 what were you today I was on this is
0:16:07 your ship we refer to this thesis is
0:16:09 ship but then we take all the old parts
0:16:12 we've been putting in the garage and we
0:16:13 reassemble them which one is thesis is
0:16:17 ship this is the ship it's not out there
0:16:22 in the world in here so we're getting a
0:16:25 deep philosophy we're talking about
0:16:27 ideal as it may be it's too much of a
0:16:28 topic for today yeah but the idea is
0:16:30 there are things that are known by the
0:16:32 mind so Socrates class stood in two
0:16:35 categories you have things that are
0:16:37 known by the senses the dunya the world
0:16:40 that's all this all this glass thousand
0:16:45 years from now is my gonna be I know
0:16:47 what VR the senses it belongs to a
0:16:49 category of things and is also very the
0:16:51 Buddhist religion Islamic religion in
0:16:53 Socratic thought we cross with the
0:16:56 Sailor this thing is going to dissolve
0:16:58 it's a category of things that dissolve
0:17:00 the things known by the mind never
0:17:04 dissolve it is the number one ever get
0:17:07 dissolve never how do we know Mohammed
0:17:10 Isha you know him by the mind his body
0:17:12 will dissolve his body's already been
0:17:14 changed several times in the flame
0:17:16 however how we know how much occasion is
0:17:19 through the mind and this is what we
0:17:21 call the soul this is one way we know
0:17:25 the soul the soul is long via the mind
0:17:26 so sorry said a soulless class of things
0:17:30 like Halloween oh god oh god the other
0:17:31 might know God via intuition not
0:17:34 mathematics or empiricism I should rule
0:17:37 the fifth law which is what we caught
0:17:39 that's why I'm studying today earlier I
0:17:41 studied philosophy for so many years
0:17:43 before I raced delved into Islam I only
0:17:45 been really studying is not for
0:17:46 seventeen years which is not a long time
0:17:48 people know as long it's not even close
0:17:50 to one percent how much there is to know
0:17:52 but I realized that all the lessons I
0:17:54 learned on Western philosophy and in
0:17:56 Buddhist or and all and all the great
0:17:57 thinkers know very fascinated I guess
0:18:00 it's all at Islam in a very deep and
0:18:05 profound level that I think would be to
0:18:08 one and
0:18:09 and drawn out for one village I guess a
0:18:12 but one thing we know it's the soul but
0:18:16 we know it directly it's actually you
0:18:19 know the soul more than you know this
0:18:21 table or physical world about the soul
0:18:24 is more immediate it's not intuitively
0:18:25 are you saying that now we have a
0:18:27 first-person subjective experience and
0:18:29 as much as that first-person subjective
0:18:32 experience direct substitutions are all
0:18:34 existence the reality round were also
0:18:37 the existence of a higher metaphysical
0:18:39 force which brought rise to all Nexus
0:18:42 now tell me the story of Adam please
0:18:45 police enough what happened in a
0:18:50 nutshell your tradition goes okay he
0:18:54 created Adam from the other one he did
0:18:58 some material substance material such
0:19:00 when he did so he breathed so now what
0:19:04 you did so in doing this sauce say they
0:19:15 ask you about the soul saying that the
0:19:18 soul is from the man I know you won't
0:19:23 know much about it so in other words
0:19:25 frankly for from our perspective not
0:19:29 much to be given some information well
0:19:31 we know this like expensive once again
0:19:33 is that number one the soul is something
0:19:35 which I must
0:19:36 Oh God Almighty implantable in salt
0:19:40 added with making viable through it and
0:19:44 afterwards all of human beings had the
0:19:47 same feature because the hadith is a
0:19:50 hadith in our tradition of which very
0:19:52 well-known it's like in the song anyway
0:19:54 today says that the human being is
0:19:57 created 40 days as long
0:20:01 in one formula for deserts why's that
0:20:03 and they said at the end of it then the
0:20:06 Angels breathes it to the universal so
0:20:09 the soul is a feature of everything
0:20:11 would be that can ask you a question are
0:20:12 we made of one soul of many ways we ever
0:20:15 even being has one soul but are we made
0:20:18 up once or is it is there is it as it
0:20:20 doesn't make any comment on if we're
0:20:22 made by one soul original soul what that
0:20:26 each human being has we share in the
0:20:29 same soul or is it individual soul every
0:20:33 individual has a specific souls out
0:20:35 there but this is the metaphysical
0:20:37 property so we have a story in the Quran
0:20:39 that says look there's this material
0:20:41 substance okay we can test it
0:20:42 scientifically but then there's an
0:20:43 ingredient we don't know much about yeah
0:20:46 but this ingredient you experience it
0:20:49 directly yes as a matter of fact it
0:20:51 flies in your face of science when you
0:20:54 ask a materialist philosopher who
0:20:56 science has mattress to clear some
0:20:58 positions so we'll about it that's all
0:21:00 we ask
0:21:01 a NASA scientist yeah how come I'm
0:21:03 conscious that's what we don't know
0:21:04 mystery they will never know we have a
0:21:10 verse we have a paradox about the
0:21:12 Chinese room sorry I thought experience
0:21:14 not a fair enough it's called the
0:21:16 Chinese room okay so the Chinese room is
0:21:18 you're in a room and I'm outside the
0:21:20 room and i slided a Chinese character
0:21:22 the Chinese character says hello and I
0:21:26 slide it in the room and you slide back
0:21:28 to me hello do you do and I slide you an
0:21:31 old saying how are you and you read
0:21:33 slide me back very good and you and
0:21:35 we're having this Chinese conversation
0:21:37 and then I open the door and I see you
0:21:41 said you speak Chinese you're like nah
0:21:43 don't speak Chinese
0:21:44 but we're having a conversation said
0:21:46 every time you slide me a character I
0:21:48 look in the book this character when you
0:21:51 get it send off this response
0:21:54 this is how a robot works the robot
0:21:58 doesn't understand the essence of words
0:22:01 he's just following an algorithm they
0:22:05 can get so sophisticated that they give
0:22:06 you the impression that they're human
0:22:08 yeah like one time the site is were
0:22:13 trying to mock Descartes and they made a
0:22:15 computer type I think therefore you
0:22:19 would print that out I'm sorry to say
0:22:22 look even the computer thinks it's
0:22:23 conscious but it's not and they were
0:22:24 putting butter at take up but really
0:22:28 what they were doing it was their
0:22:29 product they have contracts because that
0:22:32 is just an extension of you if you
0:22:33 really think about it somebody has to
0:22:35 have consciousness to say I think
0:22:36 therefore I am
0:22:37 long story short is people when you see
0:22:42 a robot a very sophisticated robot
0:22:44 people think on one day they'll have
0:22:45 consciousness you know they'll give
0:22:48 their parents the appearance of
0:22:49 consciousness they'll be very
0:22:50 sophisticated talking but we saw that
0:22:52 the Mohammed a job robot that we're
0:22:54 building
0:22:54 it's a destruction of property if you
0:22:59 ever see the movie castaway Tom Hanks
0:23:10 Wilson Wilson Wilson have a mind but he
0:23:18 projected his own mind onto Wilson one
0:23:21 day we're gonna have robots now we're
0:23:23 gonna protect our own mind that you can
0:23:25 project your money some people talk to
0:23:27 their imaginary friend the mind can be
0:23:32 projected it could do so many mess and
0:23:35 that's a situation the info
0:23:36 or for a robot right people are gonna be
0:23:39 like oh no robots cannot consciousness
0:23:41 one day no you cannot think about the
0:23:43 Pinocchio story I want to be a real boy
0:23:46 I wonder what how did they make him a
0:23:47 real boy you have to bring in some kind
0:23:50 of metaphysical element we're living
0:23:55 proof of metaphysics we're living proof
0:23:57 of me I don't need Richard Dawkins to
0:24:00 tell me if I'm going to live again or
0:24:01 what not that I know the part of me
0:24:04 belongs to the class of the mind it's
0:24:06 only known by the mind mathematics will
0:24:09 never get old and rust and died the
0:24:11 things known by the mind are never are
0:24:14 not subject to corrosion so to speak and
0:24:19 I really always loved the profound
0:24:21 question that asks you know I have again
0:24:24 micronus very weakly I know that there's
0:24:26 a part where they ask yes you know what
0:24:29 will be resurrected what brought you
0:24:30 here the first time see Socrates has a
0:24:34 very interesting dialogue he has in it
0:24:36 the fatal says look if you grew taller
0:24:40 you were first shorter you can't grow
0:24:43 taller if you were not first shorter
0:24:45 than possible they generate one another
0:24:48 so if I fell asleep first I was awake
0:24:51 and if I wake up first I was asleep and
0:24:54 you can do this with all the opposites
0:24:57 if I was cold first I was warming
0:24:59 I became warm brown for some sport
0:25:00 there's no escape they're tied together
0:25:04 voila he can examine it for thousands of
0:25:06 years then they have the greatest minds
0:25:08 have example and we cannot say that one
0:25:10 doesn't generate the other when was your
0:25:13 birthday okay where were you a year
0:25:16 before the fish is overthrown
0:25:18 you were not living oh yeah you were not
0:25:21 alive
0:25:21 you came to life yeah what does a time
0:25:24 and moment and space whatever the date
0:25:25 was exactly
0:25:26 you came to life what were you before
0:25:28 you came to life Socrates would tell you
0:25:32 and I would tell I would agree
0:25:33 some people have an emotional attachment
0:25:35 to answer this question the truth is you
0:25:37 were not living you are dead but you
0:25:39 came to life already happened
0:25:41 and if you were to go with the
0:25:45 scientific method today science would
0:25:46 tell you you're never gonna come to life
0:25:48 if you find you signs before I came to
0:25:50 life the times of it's impossible the
0:25:51 world you're talking about
0:25:52 is impossible if this world is possible
0:25:55 if this was a contingent remember we're
0:25:57 talking about like this this world is a
0:25:59 contingent meaning it could have been
0:26:01 another way if this world exists it's
0:26:04 very possible there are other worlds
0:26:05 that exists why not what's what is if
0:26:10 you understand cause and effect you
0:26:13 would know that if this world is
0:26:14 possible and the world is possible as a
0:26:16 matter of fact if you follow
0:26:18 regeneration but what Socrates says it
0:26:20 says look if everything went from life
0:26:22 to death and never reciprocated again
0:26:25 everything would be dead by now
0:26:28 everything would be dead if time is
0:26:31 infinite the cycle would have been done
0:26:34 if it was a one-time thing this is
0:26:37 complicated thinking it is it's very
0:26:39 advanced abduction very bad but the
0:26:41 truth no matter is like while learning
0:26:43 these things I really found them are
0:26:44 often the Quran in abundance and it's
0:26:48 fascinating that's really interesting
0:26:51 information and I think it's one of the
0:26:54 things that we don't stress enough with
0:26:56 the consciousness the consciousness is a
0:26:59 very unique argument it does require
0:27:00 your brain juices like hard thinking
0:27:04 you fool yeah but it's definitely
0:27:07 something that's good to put out there
0:27:09 we want to another issue now I just want
0:27:12 to kind of put our
0:27:13 some kind of thing social things
0:27:14 obviously we live in the West where
0:27:16 Muslims are all these things and we're
0:27:19 oftentimes fused okay well most of you
0:27:21 generally speaking why the right way I
0:27:23 will show how is it can I keep behind
0:27:25 the red door yes 30 minutes that's I
0:27:32 don't know how it is in Canada but here
0:27:35 in the UK accusations extremism and
0:27:49 these kind of things so have you found
0:27:51 that yourself and how how would you
0:27:53 advise Muslims to respond to that really
0:27:56 well I think the best thing is behave
0:27:59 well be a just person
0:28:01 yeah just person if you have information
0:28:03 share it if you don't know research it
0:28:05 and learn it the worst thing you can do
0:28:07 is talk about of ignorant surrender your
0:28:10 station but reading other so a good at
0:28:13 the and what's the slum about Islam is
0:28:15 about many central thin themes but one
0:28:17 central theme is justice yes
0:28:20 fairness me I rather suffer the
0:28:25 consequence that be on the face of it I
0:28:27 rather lose a hundred dollars and be
0:28:28 unfairly keep my to develop my because I
0:28:32 find justice to be beautiful and I find
0:28:34 that one of the central themes of Islam
0:28:35 is justice that's why I find Islam
0:28:38 beautiful even the Arabs at the time of
0:28:40 the Prophet SAW and Senate he funded
0:28:42 that the camel having rights was absurd
0:28:44 he was too progressive for them now
0:28:47 Islam for me I see it as a direction the
0:28:50 prophet saw the name suddenly took the
0:28:51 herbs one step at a time towards a
0:28:53 direction more and more lenient
0:28:55 more forgiving more and more tolerant
0:28:57 more and more loving more and more
0:28:59 caring and we have to continue this
0:29:01 trend today if the Prophet Solomon son
0:29:03 was alive today he would be the most
0:29:05 merciful the most renowned the most kind
0:29:07 the most generous I believe that because
0:29:09 George Bernard Shaw after reading the
0:29:11 CETA he said if this man was alive today
0:29:13 he would solve many of the world's
0:29:15 problems because what we're talking
0:29:16 earlier today about William definitely
0:29:18 definitely a German philosopher he says
0:29:20 look we're all made of the same internal
0:29:22 stuff this thing we have inside you
0:29:25 we've just been talking about your
0:29:26 consciousness the stuff you share with
0:29:28 every human being
0:29:29 so you transport yourself in their shoes
0:29:31 if you really put your mind in their
0:29:33 place and their time and then if you
0:29:37 don't look at it from your perspective
0:29:38 if you're a really open mind if you
0:29:40 would be to put yourself in their shoes
0:29:41 literally mentally speaking and see the
0:29:45 world the way they see it they were the
0:29:48 most lenient progressive and forgiving
0:29:50 and obviously that's how I see it and we
0:29:54 have to continue this trip we have to
0:29:56 continue this trip because the truth of
0:29:59 the matter is this is what was aslam
0:30:01 most seen us slaves were Muslim the
0:30:04 first Muslim was a woman and so on and
0:30:06 so on and so on
0:30:07 these were seen as crazy ideas
0:30:11 Bobby Denis Eady black cami we started a
0:30:14 show to come back Joe Rogan haven't been
0:30:16 high regard for you I mean you mentioned
0:30:18 you as over 100 100 of years and so the
0:30:22 civilizations they went through
0:30:23 different cycles the last cycle is when
0:30:25 they become corrupt decadence they start
0:30:28 cheating fighting killing one another
0:30:29 they're in fighting a lot of infighting
0:30:31 and these infighting causes the suicide
0:30:34 of a nation
0:30:35 so stations are not murder to commit
0:30:37 suicide why're you become corrupt more
0:30:40 corruption the more chances than being
0:30:42 overtaken by competing nation Islam and
0:30:45 Christianity kept corruption at bay now
0:30:47 of course there was corruption equipped
0:30:48 in every single typo you know we we know
0:30:52 that okay we have Isis the Christians
0:30:54 they have their kicker Cain among other
0:30:56 problems in the killer Catholicism the
0:30:58 free society yes but these are people
0:31:02 who did bad things but this is not a
0:31:04 religious not a creep it's not the Queen
0:31:06 so for instance if the secular American
0:31:08 does something wrong I don't say hey
0:31:09 that's the Constitution that's what you
0:31:11 get that's not what I say I say that
0:31:13 individual he decided to do something
0:31:15 bad and there's so much to read up
0:31:21 because the media loves to blame groups
0:31:25 to become Plato asked the very question
0:31:33 does God say something is good or bad
0:31:35 because its nature is good or bad or is
0:31:40 it good or bad because Allah said so
0:31:42 because God sent a fire therefore
0:31:44 whatever you sense about is bad guy by
0:31:46 him saying or is it its nature but is it
0:31:50 hot by nature then he said look if you
0:31:53 believe me God if Allah says something's
0:31:57 hot bad it's bad it only cost me more
0:31:59 because God is not questionable if you
0:32:03 don't believe in God
0:32:05 it's all aesthetics do you find it to be
0:32:09 ha
0:32:09 or hello is it ugly if you find me you
0:32:12 think it's bad if you find it to be
0:32:15 beautiful you find it to be good so if
0:32:18 there if you don't believe in a God good
0:32:22 and bad becomes beautiful and gonna be
0:32:24 fine beautiful as good whatever you find
0:32:25 ugly is bad if you think about it if you
0:32:28 think about it this is really what it is
0:32:30 and that's why when I was reading in the
0:32:32 Quran amazed they say follow your lusts
0:32:35 yeah well you follow your lust that's it
0:32:40 that's what ethics both know when
0:32:42 somebody tells me I hate is not what I
0:32:43 think I hear he doesn't want he defines
0:32:45 Islam to be why cuz he wasn't racist
0:32:49 with now there's a lot of beauty in
0:32:52 Islam you have to study it to know but
0:32:55 this president didn't study there's a
0:32:57 lot of beauty Christianity is about what
0:32:58 really integrity in Judaism as well but
0:33:01 you have to go beyond the rumors that
0:33:03 you hear because there are deep and
0:33:05 profound lessons in all the traditions
0:33:08 and people just live a superficial life
0:33:14 in the West generally speaking not
0:33:15 everybody I don't want to generalize you
0:33:17 know but the the recent trend is to be
0:33:19 superficial
0:33:21 capitalism is go buy more yes there's
0:33:24 pork in it or what not but go buy more
0:33:26 consume more buy more you more happy the
0:33:29 truth no matter is you won't be you can
0:33:31 have plenty of material goods proof of
0:33:33 that is where is the most depression of
0:33:35 the world
0:33:38 because if there wasn't study that was
0:33:40 done I was quite interested in seeing
0:33:42 that we're focused magazine and I think
0:33:44 in Toledo because they looked at
0:33:46 depression in in countries and they said
0:33:49 that their top 20 was basically was the
0:33:51 country with the exception of I think
0:33:52 Nigeria well they have a real problem
0:33:54 number one with the USA and they take
0:33:57 the most depressing time yes
0:33:59 the most bills for cycle psychological
0:34:02 illness but the number of psychological
0:34:05 elements is on the rise how come the
0:34:06 pills that the cures are on the rise and
0:34:08 the helmets on the rise it's become an
0:34:10 epidemic and that's why I felt like I
0:34:12 had an edge growing up like I said
0:34:13 earlier because me I just believe the
0:34:17 guts that was coming a lot take
0:34:20 something from you strong mentally I go
0:34:35 through about times like everybody else
0:34:37 yeah but I love what comes that you
0:34:38 subset and said hopelessness is a bit up
0:34:41 you want to be I suppose they argue
0:34:44 about the gun you wanna bid up
0:34:47 hopelessness that's a bit could never
0:34:51 have hopelessness of course if anybody
0:34:53 was familiar with the serie no there's
0:34:55 never hope it doesn't exist again these
0:34:59 are these are like what one famous
0:35:00 writer is stephen r.covey there read a
0:35:03 lot of books every from every corner of
0:35:05 business 17 steps 7 Habits of Highly
0:35:08 planners he says look if you believe he
0:35:11 says look you got a build your are very
0:35:12 similar to Islamic came to me said you
0:35:14 have to build your life on a foundation
0:35:15 it's something under shakable if you
0:35:19 build your life that was a woman if you
0:35:22 build your life on your house yes maybe
0:35:24 your spouse lead you on in your whole
0:35:26 life will come crumble yes if you're its
0:35:30 fists you're building is built on a
0:35:31 stone that's shaky
0:35:33 you're always be insecure
0:35:35 so maybe you build it on your well
0:35:37 you're not gonna take it from me
0:35:38 maybe you build it on your health your
0:35:40 your users that's gonna be taking
0:35:42 everything in they're doing everything
0:35:43 in the world can be picking for you so
0:35:45 even if you have a firm grasp you always
0:35:47 have a deep sense of insecurity so he
0:35:50 says look if you believe in God but God
0:35:53 obviously first yeah and if you believe
0:35:57 you don't believe in God says at least
0:35:59 put your principles meaning I'm gonna be
0:36:03 honest respectful who are you really and
0:36:05 never compromised but the problem I
0:36:08 found the principle argument to get
0:36:09 second best because even yourself you
0:36:13 can be tempted I'm always gonna be weak
0:36:16 I can maybe be tempted or have a have a
0:36:20 have a book to a phase in my life that I
0:36:23 might betray my own principles it's not
0:36:25 sure I'm not sure yeah I think the
0:36:33 healthiest most technological might be
0:36:35 the reasons I accept this nature I have
0:36:37 this part of me that's miraculously
0:36:38 unique that science cannot even the
0:36:41 comment on so I will meet the permission
0:36:43 for this I don't need to bow down to
0:36:45 them and the awestruck you know I was
0:36:48 asking you earlier one of your favorite
0:36:49 pet needs it's a very advanced advice
0:36:58 but what have you then you tell me its
0:37:00 authenticity is supposedly what I was
0:37:03 told the Prophet taught some kids are
0:37:05 chasing a shadow guys won't eat why not
0:37:09 a shadow
0:37:14 yeah so I was told I was young so I
0:37:24 chasing the dunya maybe was paraphrasing
0:37:31 she's her shadow well you couldn't catch
0:37:33 it you can catch it
0:37:34 Jesus son and when they came back chase
0:37:39 no dunya it's like you're chasing your
0:37:41 shadows me never attention with the
0:37:44 denier exactly that was a very profound
0:37:47 you know so I never I never brought with
0:37:50 me growing up and I thought they got a
0:37:52 respect for my peers had a strong I
0:37:55 don't know how to say but have strong
0:37:57 backbone and I never believed something
0:37:59 was impossible when I started learning
0:38:01 to sit so any learning to teach me no
0:38:02 way laughs no puppy that you brought us
0:38:04 evolutions in the time that we yes a
0:38:07 while want to do an amazing so it even
0:38:09 if it's gonna be a short episode you
0:38:12 want to talk about because this is your
0:38:14 area especially here now there is
0:38:20 basically like keep it healthy
0:38:22 keep it strong because no place right
0:38:27 and this is quite a sophisticated way I
0:38:29 think is quite an effective one how does
0:38:31 our mind body and soul connection those
0:38:33 three things to some extent you know
0:38:36 satiated have to be a stimulation so I
0:38:40 want to talk to you about about that in
0:38:42 the next episode but you did like this
0:38:45 episode I try and see the other side of
0:38:47 trust zabi
0:38:49 which is a very deeply critical
0:38:52 scientific well we read side and aside
0:38:55 we don't get to see here you are both
0:38:59 you know more willing to say visually
0:39:02 exact things but in the next episode we
0:39:05 are gonna be talking about those visual
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