Reacting to MGTOW (Red Pill, Anti-Feminists) (2021-02-24) ​

0:00:09 so
0:00:10 there is a group called mgtow which is
0:00:13 men going their own way which is really
0:00:15 in my estimation kind of like a reaction
0:00:18 to a lot of the feminist propaganda
0:00:20 that's going on uh
0:00:21 today and uh has been going on since the
0:00:24 60s i would say
0:00:25 right with second wave feminism and so
0:00:26 on so there is a
0:00:29 a youtube video that we kind of stumbled
0:00:31 across with
0:00:32 uh conveniently enough an introduction
0:00:34 to mgtow so it's telling us what this
0:00:36 mgtow is
0:00:37 and what we wanted to do as sunni muslim
0:00:39 men is kind of look at this video
0:00:42 and react to it exactly so we're gonna
0:00:44 see the extreme
0:00:46 side opposite the fitbit feminism
0:00:51 hi everyone sandman here i'm getting a
0:00:53 number of people asking me to do an
0:00:55 introduction video for mgtow
0:00:57 so here it is i'm going to cover 25 of
0:01:00 the most important video topics that
0:01:01 i've covered
0:01:02 since i've started my channel and the
0:01:04 first thing to remember about mgtow
0:01:06 is that a man that has taken the
0:01:07 metaphorical red pill is a man that has
0:01:10 learned the ugly truth about female
0:01:11 nature
0:01:13 women are made out to be harmless
0:01:14 beautiful creatures but the truth is
0:01:16 many women today will rip out your heart
0:01:18 and testicles through your wallet and
0:01:20 move on to their next victim
0:01:22 with absolutely no second thoughts so
0:01:23 what do you think of this ali first of
0:01:25 all we'll kind of get a flavor of
0:01:28 it's it's you know he's side of god when
0:01:30 you're saying you know women are seen as
0:01:31 harmless beautiful now
0:01:32 yeah you know some can be seen as
0:01:34 harmless most of them you know yeah
0:01:35 maybe beautiful depends on the one
0:01:38 that's looking maybe it's loaded again
0:01:40 they say beauty is in the eye of the
0:01:41 beginning
0:01:42 i was going to say that but i don't know
0:01:43 how to rephrase it but we've got you
0:01:44 here
0:01:45 so now then it goes a bit um south you
0:01:48 know and he starts going into about
0:01:50 you know what did he say he said like
0:01:52 you know they want to rip you from a
0:01:54 different part of your body yeah take
0:01:55 your wallet
0:01:56 financially so i can see a bit of
0:01:58 extremism in there
0:01:59 i can see me a bit of like okay all
0:02:01 right are they really as
0:02:03 as you say it's hasty generalization it
0:02:05 does seem like that it doesn't matter
0:02:08 and to be honest this is like the men's
0:02:11 right movement
0:02:12 a lot of it has been very balanced a lot
0:02:14 of it like for example warren farrell
0:02:15 he's written
0:02:16 many books which i would recommend like
0:02:18 not to say that i agree with everything
0:02:20 in those books but if you've been
0:02:21 challenged with second word feminism
0:02:23 books like the myth of male power books
0:02:25 like
0:02:27 the liberated man books like recently
0:02:29 he's written a book called the boy
0:02:30 crisis
0:02:31 books like this would actually give you
0:02:33 another perspective honestly on
0:02:35 i'm not saying once again i agree with
0:02:36 everything but it will give you another
0:02:37 perspective and also watching that
0:02:38 documentary the red pill the red pill
0:02:40 yeah it's a fantastic it will give you
0:02:42 another perspective
0:02:44 okay because critically what warren
0:02:46 farrell does is he redefines power what
0:02:48 power what power is
0:02:50 and power is the ability he says for a
0:02:52 man to take control of his own life or a
0:02:54 woman
0:02:54 right and he says that basically his
0:02:56 main argument thrust of
0:02:57 his main argument but obviously you need
0:02:59 to see his evidencing in his books
0:03:01 is that if if power is defined as the
0:03:04 ability for a man or woman to take power
0:03:06 of their own life
0:03:07 there's many things that men do which
0:03:09 show powerlessness for example
0:03:11 being forced to go into the army going
0:03:13 forced to
0:03:15 to financially provide being for or
0:03:18 expected at least to do so
0:03:19 you know and many other examples that he
0:03:21 gives like dangerous jobs many examples
0:03:23 that he gives
0:03:23 and he also references you know the
0:03:25 increase of suicide for men etc
0:03:27 and it's more of a sober tone and i
0:03:28 think really this conversation
0:03:44 is that opinions are great they're very
0:03:47 good but in order for us to really make
0:03:49 good cases
0:03:50 on either side whether you're talking
0:03:51 about women's rights or women's rights
0:03:53 it needs to be academically referenced
0:03:55 otherwise it will not be respected
0:03:57 and i think that's an important thing so
0:03:58 let's see if you would take a notch down
0:04:00 or
0:04:00 not up ultra remorse in the process so
0:04:03 taking the red pill is making yourself
0:04:05 aware of how
0:04:06 women operate and you stop being naive
0:04:08 about it
0:04:09 with regards to becoming a mgtow there
0:04:11 are four or five different levels to
0:04:12 mgtow the first level is the purple pill
0:04:15 man
0:04:16 this is the man that's aware that women
0:04:17 use the government the courts
0:04:19 and men's desires to reproduce to take
0:04:21 advantage of men
0:04:22 but the purple pill man believes that
0:04:24 the risks of a relationship in marriage
0:04:26 are often worth the potential punishment
0:04:29 a level 2 mgtow believes in dating
0:04:31 and short-term relationships but not
0:04:33 marriage long-term relationships or
0:04:35 cohabitation with women
0:04:37 to him these often seem very dangerous a
0:04:40 level 3 mgtow doesn't believe in dating
0:04:42 women at all
0:04:42 and limits his interactions with women
0:04:44 as much as possible
0:04:46 a level four mgtow tries to limit his
0:04:48 interaction yeah
0:04:49 what do you think of this bro i don't
0:04:50 know he's broken it down to level so
0:04:53 to me it does seem like look he might
0:04:54 have some valid points but to me is
0:04:56 this is as good as listening to a
0:04:59 super extreme radical feminist who's
0:05:01 been abused by a man so much that she's
0:05:03 decided to become a lesbian
0:05:04 yeah to that level where she just got so
0:05:06 much hate it's just another part of the
0:05:08 spectrum another angle where as if i
0:05:10 feel as if
0:05:11 this man has been really hurt um
0:05:14 being used mistreated um and his emotion
0:05:18 and how his feeling could be correct
0:05:19 but to generalize that again because
0:05:21 that was gonna take a bit notch down but
0:05:22 he's actually
0:05:23 now breaking the levels down but he's
0:05:25 even he's even giving you advice like
0:05:27 what you should do
0:05:28 yes but his prescription doesn't seem to
0:05:29 be yeah i mean
0:05:31 he doesn't obviously this is an
0:05:32 introduction video maybe he's done some
0:05:33 other place
0:05:34 but his description of limiting his
0:05:35 interaction with women as much as
0:05:37 possible for me
0:05:38 i don't see what does that mean why is
0:05:41 he saying he doesn't want any kind of
0:05:42 intimacy or is he
0:05:43 what's he talking about quite frankly it
0:05:45 seems like a cowardly approach
0:05:47 like sorry to say if if you think this
0:05:49 is being an alpha male
0:05:51 and this is the kind of language they
0:05:52 use alpha and beta male 1 but being an
0:05:54 alpha male
0:05:54 or being a real man or if you want to
0:05:56 call it that whatever you want to say
0:05:58 is not trying to avoid women right away
0:05:59 from the state or from the government as
0:06:01 he goes on to say
0:06:02 it's not this it's actually facing all
0:06:04 those things and face
0:06:06 no seriously facing them and cooperating
0:06:08 with them as much as possible
0:06:10 and there are times where conflict is
0:06:13 required and sometimes when negotiation
0:06:14 is required
0:06:15 and the real man knows and real woman
0:06:17 knows when to do either of those things
0:06:19 exactly he's more easily manipulated a
0:06:21 man aware of how women
0:06:23 function in society and manipulate men
0:06:25 in covert ways
0:06:26 are harder to guilt and shame into doing
0:06:28 the things that she wants
0:06:30 he knows the game so he's harder to
0:06:32 trick into marriage
0:06:33 protection and resource extraction shame
0:06:35 is the name of many women's game
0:06:37 and in this case it doesn't work after a
0:06:39 woman convinces her beta male blue pill
0:06:41 man that marriage is a good idea for him
0:06:44 then she has a child or two which at
0:06:45 some point allow her to leave that
0:06:47 relationship
0:06:48 and use those children as a way to get
0:06:50 child support from her husband
0:06:52 people wonder why men go their own way
0:06:55 and one of the biggest reasons is that
0:06:56 they have been burned by women through
0:06:58 the divorce courts
0:06:59 and are often paying lifetime alimony as
0:07:01 well as child support to their ex-wives
0:07:04 in many cases the family courts also
0:07:06 award the full value of the family home
0:07:08 to wives
0:07:09 and the majority of men visiting this
0:07:10 youtube channel are often in their 30s
0:07:13 40s and 50s men that have been taken to
0:07:15 the cleaners so to speak
0:07:17 and have had their eyes opened a little
0:07:18 too late
0:07:20 so interesting look okay this
0:07:21 interesting point and there's truth to
0:07:23 that yeah
0:07:24 so even though if it's coming from a
0:07:25 radical feminist or
0:07:27 minimalist or whatever you wanna call it
0:07:29 yeah it's
0:07:30 it's a reality a lot of men are really
0:07:32 really trying their best to abstain from
0:07:34 getting married
0:07:34 yeah firstly they're doing everything
0:07:37 that you're doing in marriage anyways
0:07:38 yeah that's point number one but number
0:07:39 two there's too many risks
0:07:41 yeah okay um and they're getting married
0:07:43 and then when things go
0:07:44 sour you have risks of seeing your kids
0:07:47 the state
0:07:48 just takes the woman's side um and
0:07:50 there's a lot of other factors so
0:07:52 can you blame men to not want to get
0:07:54 married no i'm saying he's speaking the
0:07:55 truth there
0:07:56 that men are afraid yes women are using
0:07:58 their powers that are given to them by
0:07:59 authorities
0:08:00 and other means to abuse men so much so
0:08:02 that some men are suicidal
0:08:04 some men that kill themselves because
0:08:05 they do not um they're not
0:08:07 they don't they don't even see that and
0:08:08 the documentary red pill actually
0:08:10 outlines that stuff really well in terms
0:08:12 of i think you have to pay if you want
0:08:14 to watch it but yeah
0:08:15 it's worth the money 100 yeah 100 yeah
0:08:17 definitely yeah
0:08:18 yeah so i i definitely agree uh that's
0:08:21 that's
0:08:22 there are things there which are real
0:08:23 concerns yes exactly they are here to
0:08:24 become mgtows because they are shocked
0:08:26 at the way women took advantage of them
0:08:28 as well they're here to understand how
0:08:31 women use their beauty and behavior to
0:08:32 trick men
0:08:34 another important thing to remember is
0:08:35 that women age like milk
0:08:37 while men age like wine and i'm putting
0:08:39 a link to a video called
0:08:40 women in the wall down below many
0:08:43 women's looks and ability to attract a
0:08:45 wealthy attractive mate decline rapidly
0:08:47 as they hit the age of 30.
0:08:49 men's attractiveness often increases
0:08:51 with age because they tend to make more
0:08:52 money as they age and often
0:08:55 that's that's a fact yeah the fact that
0:08:58 women
0:08:59 no no no let me know that's the fact
0:09:00 when a woman reaches the age of 30
0:09:02 30 alarm bills do go off for a man
0:09:04 that's for a man that's not the case
0:09:05 even reproducing for example a man
0:09:08 probably has a source of seven to
0:09:09 eight-year-old men that are producing
0:09:11 like his happy days brother
0:09:13 so here's a fact and have larger bank
0:09:15 accounts and savings
0:09:16 while generally women's earnings
0:09:17 potential withers with their looks
0:09:19 especially if they've had children
0:09:21 the age of 30 is roughly where male and
0:09:23 female values intersect
0:09:25 and then go in the opposite direction if
0:09:27 a man doesn't get married by the age of
0:09:29 35 or 40
0:09:30 then there's only roughly a 12 percent
0:09:32 chance that he's going to get married
0:09:33 from that point forward
0:09:35 another reason men should go their own
0:09:36 way is because of [ __ ] tests
0:09:39 women often test men's ability to be
0:09:40 providers and tolerate their horrible
0:09:42 behavior
0:09:44 the idea is to turn a man into an
0:09:46 obedient broken shell of his former self
0:09:48 that walks around saying yes dear all of
0:09:50 the time
0:09:51 his spirit has to be broken in many
0:09:53 cases so his resources become more
0:09:55 easily extracted and he is more
0:09:56 malleable he becomes silly putty in her
0:09:59 hands
0:10:00 a woman asking a man to do something
0:10:02 over the top is not her being loving or
0:10:04 showing love
0:10:05 but instead she's testing him to see if
0:10:07 he can be manipulated
0:10:08 and the ironic thing is that women want
0:10:10 to manipulate men
0:10:11 but when the manipulation works they
0:10:13 tend to lose interest
0:10:14 with regards to love there are often
0:10:16 questions as to whether
0:10:18 so about this point he keeps talking
0:10:19 about resource extraction right
0:10:21 and once again i think he's operating i
0:10:24 think it's ironic right because he's
0:10:25 operating on a feminist paradigm
0:10:28 i'll tell you why i say that because the
0:10:31 question of okay should there be
0:10:34 it's a question of is it complementarity
0:10:36 or legality
0:10:37 is it in a complementarian system or an
0:10:39 egalitarian system
0:10:40 if you believe it should be an
0:10:41 egalitarian system then
0:10:43 financially right both man and woman
0:10:46 husband and wife should be splitting the
0:10:48 bills
0:10:48 okay can you just define the definition
0:10:50 right so when i say
0:10:52 i'm talking about complete equality so
0:10:54 there's there's no
0:10:55 differentiating factor okay i mean ngozi
0:10:59 for example famous feminists uh recently
0:11:00 wrote the feminist manifesto she says
0:11:02 everything should be equal absolutely
0:11:03 equal
0:11:04 except for breastfeeding for example
0:11:06 right for women that's something which
0:11:08 she
0:11:08 she except what does exception stop
0:11:09 there right right that's the point so we
0:11:12 don't accept the premise
0:11:13 we don't accept the premise that
0:11:14 different things should be treated the
0:11:16 same in all aspects
0:11:17 okay and because we don't accept the
0:11:19 premise we say that there are things
0:11:20 that men have to do
0:11:22 responsibilities duties and
0:11:24 responsibilities which women don't
0:11:26 which is called what was that so so for
0:11:27 example in this case he keeps referring
0:11:29 to
0:11:29 as resource extraction okay we don't
0:11:32 accept the premise
0:11:33 that it's resource extraction and
0:11:34 manipulation
0:11:36 we say that having a reciprocal
0:11:38 relationship with a woman
0:11:40 where she will if it's a familial
0:11:42 structure she will have to undergo
0:11:44 a series of difficulties especially
0:11:47 if we consider that she goes through
0:11:49 pregnancy and birth and breastfeeding
0:11:51 that it's not seen from the islamic
0:11:54 paradigm as
0:11:55 as exploitative or manipulative if if we
0:11:57 then reimburse women for these things
0:11:59 exactly and allah says in the quran very
0:12:00 clearly like for example if you divorce
0:12:02 your wife and she's given birth
0:12:03 there are certain legislation allah put
0:12:05 in place yeah he has to
0:12:07 he has to provide money for
0:12:09 breastfeeding because it's a service yes
0:12:10 at the end of the night
0:12:12 if even if she's like divorced she has
0:12:13 to stay at the house until that period
0:12:15 if i'm saying in the quran allah says
0:12:16 yeah for three months for three months
0:12:18 yeah so so so it's
0:12:20 again it is what he was talking about
0:12:22 before is the other extreme which
0:12:24 is the western extreme because the
0:12:25 western extreme says
0:12:27 even in the uk this might be the case
0:12:28 but certainly the u.s is more the case
0:12:30 that if a man marries a woman and he's
0:12:33 got x amount of money in the bank
0:12:34 account and they get a divorce she's
0:12:36 going to get a huge cut
0:12:37 yeah of how much she makes or whatever
0:12:39 that is
0:12:40 and they justify that on the grounds
0:12:42 that she was servicing him like okay
0:12:43 fair enough there should be some kind of
0:12:45 compensation but the amount here
0:12:47 it's as if she was doing the work that
0:12:49 he was doing is completely unjustifiable
0:12:52 do you see how is it one extreme yeah
0:12:54 yeah yeah another female but the point
0:12:55 but the point is
0:12:56 we don't refer to this stuff as resource
0:12:58 extraction or manipulation where
0:13:00 men should be proud to spend money on
0:13:02 their families yes
0:13:03 and actually islam defines manhood in a
0:13:06 sense
0:13:07 as a as a man's ability okay to
0:13:11 to to protect to maintain and to spend
0:13:14 on his entire family
0:13:16 provide and that's what the quran says
0:13:25 that men are the maintainers and
0:13:27 protectors of women because of what
0:13:29 allah has given
0:13:30 men that he hasn't given women and
0:13:31 because of what they spend on them isn't
0:13:33 that isn't that isn't that beautiful man
0:13:35 like can you think about
0:13:36 this whole thing of experiment i just
0:13:38 see this for feminism and this what this
0:13:39 guy's on
0:13:40 as some kind of an experiment that
0:13:41 they've gone through and allah has given
0:13:43 us the solution in the quran
0:13:44 and they just they've just gone round in
0:13:46 circles this whole reaction is action
0:13:47 reaction and they've come back to the
0:13:49 hustle which is what allah is mentioned
0:13:50 in the quran right it's all action
0:13:52 reaction like you said bro
0:13:53 action second word feminism oh we feel
0:13:55 exploited because we're
0:13:57 working in the home and we want to do
0:13:58 work you come outside bro
0:14:00 nowadays james truly i was um just
0:14:02 looking at some of his work
0:14:03 right he's from newcastle university
0:14:06 he's done work he's written a book with
0:14:08 a miseducated woman or something like
0:14:09 this right
0:14:10 and he's also done work on second wave
0:14:12 feminism and its effects
0:14:13 and what he's been able to show is that
0:14:16 30 of women
0:14:17 okay 30 of women are
0:14:20 unhappy because of the career options
0:14:22 that they've had or or that they've
0:14:24 prioritized careers
0:14:26 over and above yes family yes and and so
0:14:29 this the second wave feministic
0:14:31 framework has failed and that's why
0:14:33 only eight percent i think of german
0:14:35 people according to yougov and and even
0:14:36 less
0:14:37 in other uh european countries now
0:14:39 identify with feminism in the first
0:14:41 place
0:14:42 because if they've tasted it's fruits
0:14:43 and they're rotten fruits but on the
0:14:45 other hand it's not going to
0:14:46 just be action reaction we need to bring
0:14:48 some kind of complementarity to into the
0:14:50 equation here
0:14:51 and some reciprocity which we'll talk
0:14:53 about hopefully when we get the chance
0:14:55 children and need to divert those
0:14:56 resources elsewhere
0:14:58 anyways mgtow men want north america and
0:15:00 europe to turn into japan
0:15:02 we want men refusing to provide love and
0:15:04 resources to women on a
0:15:06 civilization-wide scale
0:15:07 until society crumbles women are selfish
0:15:10 yet men are told to man up and take
0:15:12 responsibility
0:15:14 and we don't want to take responsibility
0:15:15 for childlike women that have given up
0:15:17 on their own responsibilities
0:15:19 but continue to demand that we men
0:15:20 provide them entitlements
0:15:22 because they have a golden vagina when a
0:15:24 man tries to live for himself
0:15:26 women call it a mid-life crisis and try
0:15:28 to shame him back into submission
0:15:30 yet when a woman goes through menopause
0:15:32 men are supposed to just tolerate her
0:15:34 hot flashes
0:15:35 as well as mood swings but a man in a
0:15:37 midlife crisis
0:15:38 needs therapy according to women the guy
0:15:41 we make
0:15:41 there is some truth in that i mean at
0:15:43 the end of the day is most feminists
0:15:45 agree
0:15:45 that there are physiological differences
0:15:47 between men and women and most of them
0:15:48 would
0:15:49 accept the fact that there are there are
0:15:51 behavioral changes
0:15:52 when menses happens so if th this brings
0:15:56 us to the point
0:15:57 uh equality is not identicality we don't
0:15:59 believe that we're the same and there
0:16:01 are things that men are going to have to
0:16:02 tolerate from women
0:16:03 that the vice versa isn't isn't the case
0:16:05 exactly and then what happens is this
0:16:06 fits into the whole paradigm of
0:16:09 men committing more suicide because as a
0:16:10 woman you're telling me i'm going
0:16:11 through menopause understand me yes i'm
0:16:13 lashing out on you i'm going in a mad
0:16:14 one every now and then
0:16:15 but i'm going for menopause okay but
0:16:16 when a man is going from midlife crisis
0:16:18 you're told to shut up now when you're
0:16:19 told to shut up as a man
0:16:21 not directly or indirectly um because
0:16:23 one of the reasons why a lot of men
0:16:24 commit suicide is because women tend to
0:16:26 express their self more they can cry
0:16:27 about it they can just let it out
0:16:28 as a man you have to man up don't be
0:16:30 weak you don't cry and now
0:16:32 when you're faced with a woman kind of
0:16:34 expressing her feelings and then
0:16:36 belittling you when you're going through
0:16:37 like a let's say a midlife crisis that
0:16:39 adds on to somebody being prone to
0:16:40 commit suicide
0:16:42 i think that's that is one of the things
0:16:43 i mean most studies when they talk about
0:16:45 men
0:16:46 committing suicide more is because
0:16:48 society shames men
0:16:50 for being able to come out and speak
0:16:51 about their emotions in the same way
0:16:53 that women
0:16:53 are actually more courageous in being
0:16:55 able to do so and exactly and you're
0:16:56 suppressing them further with this
0:16:58 that's true so this is these are some
0:17:00 interesting points buying them a nice
0:17:02 home and furnishing it as well as
0:17:03 spoiling them rotten like princesses
0:17:05 yet many of the women they tend to
0:17:07 rescue are used butts that have been
0:17:09 riding the [ __ ] carousel for most of
0:17:10 their lives
0:17:11 and many women prefer to date bad boys
0:17:13 and jerks instead of good
0:17:15 loving supportive and good-hearted men
0:17:17 many men can't even get dates or
0:17:19 relationships these days because they
0:17:20 seem to be unattractive to women
0:17:22 and women have no interest in dating
0:17:24 them and having sex with them
0:17:26 but it's much harder for unattractive
0:17:27 men than it is for unattractive women
0:17:30 and men that are incapable of getting
0:17:31 dates and getting into relationships
0:17:33 are often called tflers or true force
0:17:37 that's true for an attractive man that's
0:17:39 subjective anyways
0:17:40 and for an attractive woman even an
0:17:43 attractive woman like
0:17:44 you know back in the days with friends
0:17:46 some friends would like they would look
0:17:47 at a girl and they'd be like
0:17:48 okay she's not that pretty there but
0:17:51 you know her body or whatever may be is
0:17:53 so an attractive woman still has some
0:17:54 kind of a
0:17:55 demand should i say but uh as an
0:17:58 attractive man that's not the case um
0:18:01 i was i was going to say something else
0:18:02 yeah yeah it's an interesting point
0:18:04 because i think a lot of people don't
0:18:06 realize the chivalry effect
0:18:07 and a chivalry effect is not just
0:18:09 something that happens in the courtroom
0:18:10 or in the
0:18:11 legal system there is a societal
0:18:13 chivalry effect
0:18:14 yeah the thing is also like for example
0:18:16 when they say for example women want
0:18:18 bad guys good guy in bad guys what's
0:18:20 that mean a lot of people go to extremes
0:18:22 yeah in that context where they think
0:18:23 and a man go to that for example a man
0:18:25 is good he's his first relationship
0:18:27 whatever which you shouldn't have
0:18:27 anyways for the get-go this was haram
0:18:29 yeah
0:18:30 but what happens is that woman uses you
0:18:31 or leaves you for a bad boy yeah
0:18:33 in your head you're being told now you
0:18:35 have to be the bad guy now the bad guy
0:18:37 that's
0:18:37 being registered in your head you know
0:18:39 is somebody that's going to be
0:18:41 uh violent or this that there was a
0:18:42 prophet i was listening to on tick-tock
0:18:44 yeah i disagreed with him i agree with
0:18:45 some points
0:18:46 but he's making it seem as if you have
0:18:49 to be
0:18:49 bad and evil to your wife
0:18:52 right to be that's not correct let me
0:18:54 tell you something here psychologically
0:18:56 let me tell you something if i'm a
0:18:57 pushover yeah if
0:18:59 i don't have a backbone and my friends
0:19:02 forget relationship friends colleagues
0:19:04 works you name it brother sister whoever
0:19:05 maybe
0:19:06 if i'm a pushover anyone this is human
0:19:08 psychology
0:19:09 if you're too good to someone i'm never
0:19:11 going to use the word good if you're
0:19:12 just too
0:19:13 lenient with someone they're bound to
0:19:15 trample on you you've got no seriousness
0:19:17 left do you know what i'm trying to say
0:19:18 it's human psychology it doesn't apply
0:19:19 to women or men it applies across
0:19:22 board now to take that on board and run
0:19:24 with it and make it seem as if
0:19:25 no you have to be the bad guy or you
0:19:27 have to treat your harsh i don't think
0:19:28 this is correct yes
0:19:29 definitely it's not great you can treat
0:19:31 your wife good but and
0:19:32 vice versa there has to be discipline in
0:19:35 all areas
0:19:36 okay if you're a pushover woman yeah or
0:19:38 a push of a man
0:19:39 the same thing will apply to you so i
0:19:41 think it's unfair where a lot of people
0:19:43 use this and make it seem as if you know
0:19:44 i have to become the bad boy alpha male
0:19:46 and real hard and i don't think that's
0:19:48 right as long as you have principles in
0:19:50 place
0:19:50 and discipline like there's cross don't
0:19:53 cross that line
0:19:54 works both and don't forget islam like
0:19:56 for a lot of these mgtow brothers that
0:19:57 are
0:19:57 men that are watching this right now
0:19:59 islam has the answer to your questions
0:20:02 because it's institutionalized or
0:20:04 hierarchization
0:20:06 like for instance we're not afraid to
0:20:07 say that men
0:20:09 as husbands yeah there's a degree of
0:20:11 authority in certain uh
0:20:12 aspects and going into a relationship
0:20:15 muslim women know that
0:20:16 they know that for example if there's a
0:20:18 deadlock and there is a
0:20:20 there's not a decision to be made then
0:20:22 yeah the man is going to make a decision
0:20:24 on that on that
0:20:25 so we are not uh the the islamic
0:20:28 paradigm
0:20:29 the islamic paradigm grants to men
0:20:31 something which will satisfy their
0:20:32 nature
0:20:33 and stop men from being resentful to
0:20:36 women because their nature is
0:20:38 suppressed and this is a great injustice
0:20:40 of the feminist movement
0:20:41 that it's not allowed men to express
0:20:43 themselves in the way that they ought to
0:20:44 or need to or feel that they have to
0:20:47 in order to really express what it is
0:20:48 that is different from them
0:20:50 uh from women which differentiates them
0:20:51 from it so for for us
0:20:53 we do have a hierarchy within the house
0:20:55 we do have a hierarchy there is a man
0:20:56 there is
0:20:57 the kids there's the wife and yeah there
0:20:59 is a chain of command at the end of the
0:21:01 day and the man
0:21:02 is is the man of the house the prophet
0:21:04 salla he said
0:21:07 every shepherd is responsible for their
0:21:09 flock
0:21:10 and a man is responsible for his flock
0:21:12 and his his wife is responsible for
0:21:15 for for the for the family and so on so
0:21:16 there is a clear hierarchy that is known
0:21:19 in the religion by necessity yeah
0:21:22 and this allows a man to to not feel
0:21:25 always undermined because he comes up
0:21:27 with a lot of examples where really what
0:21:29 he's talking about is a manipulated man
0:21:31 what is he talking about a man that
0:21:33 doesn't have a backbone a backbone put
0:21:35 it that way yeah and the thing is look
0:21:37 it's not just a religion
0:21:38 this is like predisposition
0:21:42 it's a matter just as you affirm the
0:21:45 oneness of god
0:21:46 this is something allah has legislated
0:21:47 for mankind the one who's created apple
0:21:49 knows how apple works
0:21:51 if you try to experiment you're going to
0:21:52 come back to square one the factory
0:21:54 settings
0:21:55 which is the usual and if you go and
0:21:57 experiment which these people are
0:21:59 no let's try this let's try that it's
0:22:00 nothing but action reaction bro
0:22:02 it's nothing but chaos and what we
0:22:04 learned from this video is
0:22:05 how important it is for example to have
0:22:07 a divine
0:22:08 legislation telling us how to abide and
0:22:10 live by and if you don't what are you
0:22:12 going to do let me tell you something
0:22:13 let's experiment oh explode it didn't
0:22:15 work i hurt my head
0:22:16 you're going to carry on hurting
0:22:17 yourself and we're seeing society
0:22:20 crumbling the marriage the there's an
0:22:22 outright war on the
0:22:23 uh the family unit and you name it and
0:22:26 that's what you're gonna have
0:22:27 extreme individuals like him can you
0:22:29 imagine men can you
0:22:30 imagine a a naive man man
0:22:33 young boy listening to this he's been
0:22:35 hurt by society
0:22:36 and he's like you know what yeah this
0:22:38 woman you radicalized the guy
0:22:40 can you imagine him getting into a
0:22:42 relationship he's going to see this
0:22:43 woman
0:22:44 as nothing but an object not even
0:22:47 he's going to say this woman is trying
0:22:48 to suck myself it's like what stephen
0:22:50 covey says you know his seven rules for
0:22:51 highly effective people yeah
0:22:52 it's one of his rules is think win win
0:22:55 and i think the key word here is
0:22:56 reciprocity
0:22:58 if you you always think it's a zero-sum
0:23:00 game which in economic terms means it's
0:23:02 either me or you
0:23:03 who's gonna win here and basically the
0:23:05 presentation of this man here is that
0:23:07 this thing is a whole
0:23:08 this gender interaction is a zero-sum
0:23:09 game it's the same and
0:23:11 it's the same discourse exactly as we
0:23:14 find in
0:23:15 a second wave movements or feminist
0:23:17 movements which is that
0:23:19 men are biologically oppressive by
0:23:21 nature the the family is institutionally
0:23:23 oppressive
0:23:24 there's a patriarchy which is basically
0:23:26 this term they say they're not
0:23:28 discriminatory towards men
0:23:29 but there is a whole term with the word
0:23:31 patriarchy where the word patriot
0:23:32 literally means
0:23:33 that which relates to the father the man
0:23:35 right so
0:23:37 you're telling us feminists are
0:23:38 basically saying this
0:23:40 that the name of your movement is named
0:23:42 after being a woman feminism
0:23:44 and then the name of the oppressive
0:23:46 force is named after manhood which is
0:23:49 patriarchy
0:23:50 so you've got this dualism you've got
0:23:51 this you've got this dichotomy that's
0:23:53 created
0:23:54 this dualism where men are the bad guys
0:23:56 and women
0:23:57 are the good guys and this guy is doing
0:23:59 nothing but the opposite women now have
0:24:01 become the
0:24:02 antagonist and men have become the
0:24:03 protagonist and we need to kind of
0:24:05 avenge
0:24:06 yeah like kind of the historical
0:24:07 injustice by secluding ourselves
0:24:11 which is a cowardly approach it is a
0:24:13 cowardly approach and it's an
0:24:14 ineffective approach it's an inefficient
0:24:17 approach
0:24:18 the complementarity model that islam has
0:24:20 to offer once again
0:24:21 like you've just mentioned it does not
0:24:24 say
0:24:25 that men and women are the same it
0:24:26 acknowledges the differences between men
0:24:28 and women
0:24:28 it acknowledges the psychological and
0:24:30 the biological and the physiological
0:24:32 differences
0:24:33 and it makes special arrangements
0:24:36 for those all right so a man doesn't
0:24:38 feel like him expressing himself
0:24:40 is going to compromise a woman
0:24:42 expressing herself and a woman doesn't
0:24:44 have to feel like
0:24:45 her expressing herself is gonna
0:24:47 compromise the man
0:24:48 a traditional marriage and family is a
0:24:50 great risk for men in this day and age
0:24:52 if a man wants a child of his own i
0:24:54 would suggest that he go to either
0:24:55 mexico or thailand
0:24:56 and have a surrogate mother give birth
0:24:58 to his own child
0:25:00 that way his child can never be taken
0:25:01 away by the mother
0:25:03 and he often pays thirty to forty
0:25:05 thousand dollars to have his own child
0:25:06 free do you see the extremes he's gone
0:25:08 through he's literally telling you to
0:25:09 travel to another country
0:25:11 and get a surrogate mother can you
0:25:14 imagine the extremes that
0:25:15 this is this is very worrying you know
0:25:16 what the show this show this guy is
0:25:18 either his kids have been taken away
0:25:19 from him that is always happening he's
0:25:21 going to extremely
0:25:22 bro remember when we went to california
0:25:24 let me tell you something yeah but we
0:25:25 went to california we're not going to
0:25:26 mention what state or what happened but
0:25:28 we went to california and abroad yes
0:25:30 i remember look you don't you just said
0:25:31 it i know man and tell
0:25:33 tell them the story man bro if we're
0:25:35 talking about the the same story
0:25:37 it's when the when the guy his kids were
0:25:39 custody went to the mother and he
0:25:40 couldn't see his kids and then what did
0:25:42 he do
0:25:43 yeah he yeah he shoot him he shot the
0:25:46 two
0:25:46 daughters and he shot himself yes yes he
0:25:49 shot the two daughters
0:25:50 obviously that's a condemnable action a
0:25:51 monstrous action but the point is
0:25:53 it drives men to insanity bro yes
0:25:56 when you play around with kids yes and
0:25:58 this is a serious issue and once again
0:26:00 it's documented very well in the red
0:26:02 pill
0:26:02 um documentation it's extremely and
0:26:05 people do this today man
0:26:06 people are trying to snatch kids away
0:26:08 from the father and this can mentally
0:26:10 disturb them to the point of insanity
0:26:12 it's it's something people don't realize
0:26:14 how big of an injustice this is this is
0:26:15 this is a
0:26:16 massive injustice and you know what this
0:26:18 is you know women have been given power
0:26:20 here and this is one thing that
0:26:21 warren farrell mentions in his book the
0:26:22 myth of male power which is that
0:26:25 he mentioned a beautiful example he says
0:26:27 look if a woman
0:26:28 especially a second word feminist woman
0:26:30 right she goes into a
0:26:31 an institution and she now she's a
0:26:34 manager of like five or ten people and
0:26:36 then they
0:26:36 tell her look you're going to be
0:26:37 supervising 20 people she'll see that as
0:26:39 an expansion of responsibility
0:26:41 but if she has three kids and then she
0:26:42 has two more she won't see that as an
0:26:44 expansion of responsibility
0:26:45 but the same thing has happened in fact
0:26:46 the influence that she will have
0:26:48 on the kids is going to be more than the
0:26:50 influence that she'll have on the
0:26:51 employees
0:26:52 the point is a woman is extremely
0:26:56 influential
0:26:56 okay and yes there is a conditional
0:26:58 there she will be more influential
0:27:00 if she is a mother but yeah the same
0:27:03 could be said about
0:27:04 their understanding which is a distorted
0:27:06 understanding of the patriarchy the man
0:27:08 is sometimes more authoritative and yes
0:27:10 he should be to counterbalance to
0:27:12 counterbalance this
0:27:13 uh this huge influence and authority
0:27:15 that women would have imagine if there
0:27:17 was equality man
0:27:18 imagine if a man had to have the same
0:27:19 authority as a woman and that the woman
0:27:22 was so much more influential over the
0:27:23 kids because she has literally had those
0:27:25 kids in her stomach
0:27:26 and literally had that connection with
0:27:29 them that the man can never no matter
0:27:30 how much he tries
0:27:32 ever have that connection that needs to
0:27:33 be counterbalanced and islam has the
0:27:35 solution which is
0:27:36 that he has an authority over that woman
0:27:38 that she does not have over him you know
0:27:39 you know what
0:27:40 and nothing should end on this note here
0:27:41 you know what's really profound is that
0:27:42 the reason why these authorities give
0:27:44 that right to the woman is because they
0:27:45 accept that she has bore them and given
0:27:48 birth to them
0:27:49 so they say hold on a second the mother
0:27:51 here is the one that's playing the key
0:27:53 role the responsibility and
0:27:54 carried that child and giving birth they
0:27:56 see that and say you know what
0:27:58 they they put that respect on the
0:28:00 motherhood right and that's why they
0:28:01 give that right
0:28:03 um to the mother yeah sometimes to
0:28:05 extremes yes but you get but do you see
0:28:07 how they're coming back to our principle
0:28:08 of the quran
0:28:09 that yes that mother the mother like the
0:28:11 mother how she's with the kids etc she
0:28:13 has that right
0:28:14 uh islamically as well but do you see
0:28:16 how it falls back to our paradigm
0:28:18 that they are not the same beautiful do
0:28:20 you get it
0:28:21 they're implementing in their illegal
0:28:23 system absolutely oh yeah i got one more
0:28:25 thing which is 950.
0:28:26 in her 30s and she will say things like
0:28:29 not tonight honey and deny him sexual
0:28:31 release
0:28:32 and possibly use that as a way to
0:28:33 control him oh bro
0:28:37 how many views are once he's got like
0:28:38 almost a million almost a million views
0:28:40 11
0:28:40 000 likes 1.4 000 um dislikes
0:28:44 that's about nine percent of dislikes of
0:28:46 the full um count
0:28:47 yeah yeah this is an issue bro one
0:28:49 second is an issue
0:28:50 yes please yeah if i was to repeat the
0:28:51 same thing i'm gonna put my feet up no
0:28:54 oh yeah there's a reason behind it
0:28:55 there's a reason yeah
0:28:56 if i said the same thing and i quoted
0:28:57 the hadith which the process
0:28:59 said that the angels cursed a woman who
0:29:01 when the the the husband is asking for
0:29:03 intimacy she says no so first you can
0:29:05 see from the hadith that
0:29:06 it doesn't say go grab her by the hair
0:29:07 and say come here and i'm going to
0:29:08 wherever you too yeah
0:29:10 because it shows that she has the right
0:29:11 to say no absolutely
0:29:13 this is a fact that this guy is stating
0:29:14 and yes you know what in this hadith it
0:29:16 looks like the man is actually sexually
0:29:18 uh blackmailing it's actually the
0:29:19 opposite way around she's saying no
0:29:21 and i i i don't want you that's
0:29:23 manipulation now we're not saying this
0:29:25 is we're not saying there's certain
0:29:26 scenarios where a woman can't yeah no no
0:29:27 but
0:29:28 what's the point of a relationship
0:29:29 exactly what we're saying is this
0:29:30 talking about a woman that is actually
0:29:32 using her
0:29:34 femininity against the man yes and
0:29:37 nobody talks about it so much so that
0:29:39 when you read the hadith
0:29:40 you're reading it with a a oh this
0:29:42 sounds oh my gosh towards a woman
0:29:43 hold on a second exactly why isn't this
0:29:45 hadith scene i thought in a second
0:29:47 she is actually abusing him so much so
0:29:49 that the angels are cursing her yeah
0:29:51 no you know i think that there's an
0:29:52 assumption here which i think second
0:29:54 we're feminists once again
0:29:55 have tried to promulgate and it's the
0:29:57 assumption that both men and women are
0:29:59 the same sexually
0:30:00 but look at this i'm just gonna i'm just
0:30:01 ladies yeah look open it brother i'm
0:30:03 gonna give you one
0:30:04 you know one second yeah nonsense okay
0:30:06 okay this this is one study that was
0:30:08 from roy
0:30:08 baumiesta i might be pronouncing their
0:30:10 wrong name wrong
0:30:12 and catholic canton cantonese yeah and
0:30:14 another one kathleen v
0:30:16 divos and there and the question is that
0:30:17 doesn't sound like muslims no it's
0:30:19 definitely not
0:30:19 is there a gender difference in strength
0:30:21 of sex drive yeah that's the name of the
0:30:23 question
0:30:23 okay listen to the abstract the sex
0:30:25 drive refers to the
0:30:27 strength of sexual motivation across
0:30:29 many studies
0:30:30 and measures men have been shown to be
0:30:32 to have more frequent and more make sure
0:30:34 the mic is closer right and more intense
0:30:36 sexual desires than women as reflected
0:30:38 spontaneous
0:30:39 in spontaneous thoughts about sex
0:30:41 frequency
0:30:42 frequent frequency and variety of sexual
0:30:45 fantasies
0:30:46 desired frequency of intercourse desired
0:30:48 number of partners masturbation
0:30:50 and i know some people in this room know
0:30:52 a bit about that
0:30:53 i'm only joking lacking for various uh
0:30:55 sexual practices
0:30:57 willingness to forgo sex initiating
0:31:00 versus refusing sex
0:31:01 making sacrifices for sex yeah no
0:31:04 comment
0:31:06 and other measures listen to this listen
0:31:07 to this
0:31:10 and for a psycholo psychological um kind
0:31:12 of peer-reviewed study to write the
0:31:14 following
0:31:15 in such generalized terms is incredible
0:31:17 no contrary findings indicating stronger
0:31:20 sexual motivation among women were found
0:31:23 hence that repeated no contrary findings
0:31:26 including
0:31:26 indicating stronger sexual motivations
0:31:28 among women were found
0:31:30 hence listen hence we conclude that the
0:31:32 male sex drive is stronger than the
0:31:34 female sex drive
0:31:35 the gender difference in sex drive
0:31:37 should not be generalized to other
0:31:38 constructs such as sexual orgasmic
0:31:40 or orgasmic capacity enjoyment of sex or
0:31:44 extrinsically motivated something you've
0:31:45 never experienced in your life
0:31:48 look here's the point let me tell you
0:31:49 something right the assumption once
0:31:51 again of identicality
0:31:53 falls flat on its face like this mic
0:31:55 right any
0:31:56 serious scientist or psychologist or
0:31:58 social scientists
0:31:59 will know that all studies really and
0:32:02 this is
0:32:02 indicated in the peer-reviewed
0:32:03 literature indicate a difference so if
0:32:05 there's a difference and the quran makes
0:32:07 this clear it says
0:32:09 human being has been created weak allah
0:32:11 describes this and this the mufester on
0:32:13 the exegetes
0:32:15 he they they say this is referring to
0:32:16 sexual weakness this is a weakness
0:32:18 for men
0:32:22 it's much more exacerbated for men
0:32:24 because the once again go into farin's
0:32:26 definition lack of power you know the
0:32:29 fact that we don't have as much
0:32:31 control over sexual desires as women do
0:32:33 should be
0:32:34 something which once again the
0:32:36 complementary system
0:32:38 yes should mean that the woman helps us
0:32:39 a little bit with this because quite
0:32:41 frankly there is an expectation there is
0:32:42 and he's right and he says this in other
0:32:44 places
0:32:44 there is a societal expectation for men
0:32:47 to pro
0:32:48 protect women in other scenarios men if
0:32:51 there was some kind of he was talking
0:32:52 about in another video that i watched of
0:32:54 his
0:32:54 you know the plane uh dropped or
0:32:56 something like that in the sea and women
0:32:58 and children were
0:32:59 kind of told to exit first and the women
0:33:01 and children rule applies over and over
0:33:03 again
0:33:03 women and children are prioritizing
0:33:05 safety matters the truth of the matter
0:33:06 is
0:33:07 if society should operate in those ways
0:33:09 and we don't deny that that should be
0:33:10 the case by the way
0:33:11 we're happy with that well we haven't
0:33:12 got an issue with that really well yeah
0:33:14 but if such weaknesses of women
0:33:18 quite frankly are to be kind of dealt
0:33:21 with by the strengths of men
0:33:23 then at least let the opposite happen
0:33:25 let the weaknesses of man
0:33:27 be hel will help us no no no no no no no
0:33:29 no no help us
0:33:31 it's very simple yeah biologically
0:33:33 emotionally intellectually
0:33:34 you name it whatever you want to name
0:33:36 okay this shows you that this is a peer
0:33:38 review this is this is studies showing
0:33:40 this
0:33:40 yeah if a man has a higher sex drive or
0:33:43 or whatever it is it shows that we need
0:33:45 a unique attention in that area
0:33:47 that's right this person is not me let
0:33:49 me make it clear this doesn't mean
0:33:50 i'm going to force my wife no we're not
0:33:52 talking about we're not talking about
0:33:53 we shouldn't even we shouldn't even we
0:33:55 shouldn't even understand what we're
0:33:56 saying
0:33:57 sadly we have to sadly but we have to
0:33:59 yeah the thing is this
0:34:00 if in a certain situation where there's
0:34:02 a threat to my me and my wife walking
0:34:04 down the road
0:34:04 yes and i have to perform i'm not going
0:34:06 to say go
0:34:07 yeah i have to because because of her
0:34:10 strength it's biological because of my
0:34:12 stress
0:34:16 if that is the case at that given moment
0:34:17 that i have to perform in that very
0:34:19 moment to that threat yeah
0:34:20 it's as good as saying so you're you're
0:34:22 a full-time security guard okay yes but
0:34:24 so that means in a certain area
0:34:26 yeah i'm playing sadly yeah so and i
0:34:27 could die i can die on the course yeah
0:34:29 so the thing is if it comes to intimacy
0:34:31 and if a husband is asking his wife to
0:34:33 come
0:34:34 have intimacy and she's saying no no
0:34:36 problem you have the right to say no
0:34:37 but what you're doing is now you're
0:34:39 hypocrite you're an absolute
0:34:41 walking talking hypocrite yeah that's it
0:34:43 because you're you're happy
0:34:45 you're happy to take protection of men
0:34:47 when weaknesses of women are
0:34:49 uh are shown yeah look i i i totally
0:34:52 agree with this point and i think this
0:34:54 is sadly like you've said something
0:34:56 which is
0:34:56 do you know what this shows among all
0:34:58 above all things yes
0:35:00 the fact that he said this and so many
0:35:01 people have agreed with him on this and
0:35:02 they're not muslims right
0:35:03 yeah so this is not a muslim specific
0:35:05 issue number one okay you can't
0:35:07 attribute this
0:35:07 this behavior to islam this is a
0:35:10 non-muslim website uh
0:35:11 youtube page number one number two okay
0:35:14 which i think is very important as well
0:35:16 is that this shows how much resentment
0:35:19 there is among men for women who do this
0:35:22 to them
0:35:23 now you can see you can feel the
0:35:25 although he's trying to be kind of
0:35:26 monotone
0:35:27 but you can kind of hear through his
0:35:28 content the emotion in his
0:35:30 in in what he's trying to say he's been
0:35:32 probably her
0:35:33 many of the people that are going on his
0:35:35 website youtube page have been hurt and
0:35:36 that is because
0:35:37 let me tell you the reason why is
0:35:38 because the system has been unjust
0:35:40 towards men
0:35:42 and also has been unjust towards women
0:35:45 and this system is
0:35:46 unjust towards men and women the answer
0:35:48 is reciprocity
0:35:50 the answer is complementarity and the
0:35:52 answer is islam
0:35:55 until next time
0:36:09 sorry about this bro