Quranic Diacritical marks divine revelation or human invention 3 (2022-07-19) #

0:00:00 Music
0:00:24 so i i would say
0:00:27 these issues
0:00:29 are
0:00:32 someone can go there for example most
0:00:34 people now when they come like for
0:00:36 example this idiot and again say period
0:00:38 not the government the one who became
0:00:39 later possibly a capital one in america
0:00:41 who started this marvelous work about
0:00:43 the number 19 let's see it's miraculous
0:00:46 aspects and so on
0:00:48 he got stuck with with with with half's
0:00:51 reading
0:00:52 thinking that's that the quran
0:00:55 but this is an idiot
0:00:57 without verifying what's that how to
0:00:59 number eyes and so on until he came to
0:01:01 the two last ayahs of surat and
0:01:03 tawba are actually not in the uh are not
0:01:06 in quran
0:01:07 they become then an idiot
0:01:10 possibly even a kafir
0:01:12 went ballistic lost his mind and
0:01:14 ultimately ended believing that he's a
0:01:16 prophet i think that i think he's mental
0:01:18 and poor guys i think have a mental
0:01:19 disease but
0:01:21 because he did not
0:01:23 you remember we discussed that the
0:01:24 counting of the ayah in the quran and
0:01:26 how to add the the bhasa and all of
0:01:28 these things
0:01:29 and we concluded that the only counting
0:01:31 which is which we can rely upon
0:01:34 for various reasons and we mentioned
0:01:36 that is at the end of time let's finish
0:01:38 them again now in a summary is the count
0:01:40 of
0:01:41 of madinah and the count of the boswell
0:01:43 in the branch of jewry not the other
0:01:45 country
0:01:47 and the reason for that is that
0:01:49 historically
0:01:51 the reading of the dori is
0:01:56 africa since centuries before computers
0:01:59 have invented and so on it's number one
0:02:02 the reading of of uh
0:02:05 with both brushes
0:02:13 are available for centuries and they are
0:02:16 all fit exactly the same counting
0:02:17 principle
0:02:18 and the same counting numbers
0:02:21 and
0:02:22 the total number of eyes of the swallow
0:02:24 in that uh
0:02:26 the interesting eyes was like excluding
0:02:28 the basmati reservation
0:02:30 which is everywhere except since october
0:02:32 and if you add all the 200 there are
0:02:34 130 investment to them who get a number
0:02:37 which is divisible by 19 who shall as
0:02:40 relate to the number of 19 sources
0:02:42 another hint of the importers were
0:02:43 number 19
0:02:44 but this is all before were established
0:02:47 and in the hands of the people millions
0:02:48 of people well before computer have been
0:02:50 limited before the number the issue of
0:02:52 number 19 and computerization has come
0:02:55 so this regard as like metaphysical
0:02:57 evidence for them for the disnumbering
0:02:59 and these two
0:03:01 three leaders and three narrators
0:03:04 agreeing on millions of people and cool
0:03:06 areas of muslim world unfortunately the
0:03:08 majority and also we argued
0:03:11 that the fact that huffs does not have a
0:03:13 consistent system in in encountering the
0:03:16 the torah in qatar the disconnected
0:03:18 letters
0:03:21 etc
0:03:23 in some places he comes from a separate
0:03:25 ayah that al-baqarah and other places
0:03:27 don't count them
0:03:29 there's a consistent rule while we have
0:03:31 for example all other either do not
0:03:33 count them except that the the
0:03:35 the
0:03:36 hemsy rita the hamsa leader khan doesn't
0:03:38 count them exceptions
0:03:40 uh
0:03:41 it counts hamilton half two is
0:03:43 everywhere
0:03:45 them so we have the we have the this
0:03:47 condo discordance there
0:03:49 the rest all the rest of readers they
0:03:51 don't count them as i at all
0:03:53 including basley and madari so that must
0:03:56 be the correct one
0:03:58 which shows the half the half's count
0:04:00 cannot be the correct one there's some
0:04:02 error in it
0:04:04 so we have to
0:04:05 so you have to do these things before
0:04:07 indulging into deeper and more complex
0:04:10 issues of counting i as accounting words
0:04:15 you have to say to certain questions
0:04:18 questions if you can't for example the
0:04:19 words of the quran
0:04:21 you have to define what's the word
0:04:23 obviously in arabic the word was written
0:04:25 together
0:04:26 now the issue of the world
0:04:29 the law for example in most egyptian
0:04:31 writing modern writing at least is
0:04:33 regarded as separate words but all other
0:04:36 writings and also the old messiah shown
0:04:38 to indicate the world is part of the
0:04:39 word which comes after
0:05:06 it will be 11 words
0:05:08 so you have to put a certain principle
0:05:10 and stick to it
0:05:12 that's concerning counting the words and
0:05:14 counting the words have certain
0:05:15 importance in certain prophecies and
0:05:17 satan i think uh miraculous aspect of
0:05:20 the word the word 90
0:05:22 then in addition to that we have the
0:05:25 issue of
0:05:26 of of counting the letters
0:05:29 then we have to go to the initial uh
0:05:31 orthomania writing
0:05:33 and this is very very difficult to
0:05:35 descend but it can be extracted
0:05:39 but if you check for example the various
0:05:41 programs which even count letters of the
0:05:43 quran you find various programs now
0:05:45 available
0:05:47 and they
0:05:49 they all
0:05:50 they have some variations in metal
0:05:52 counting of the words because they have
0:05:55 variations in in the uthmanis script
0:05:57 initial manuscript the one without dots
0:05:59 etc
0:06:01 to get that of the old messiah
0:06:04 so some verification and work has to be
0:06:06 done there
0:06:08 one of them seems to be closest i'm not
0:06:10 saying it's the correct one why i'm
0:06:12 concluding scores because it seems to be
0:06:15 bringing the following result without
0:06:17 being preempted so the the program is
0:06:20 designed long ago and it's available and
0:06:22 the text is there extracted
0:06:25 it ends with the following results so
0:06:27 that no ends having a discount
0:06:30 having 950 letters
0:06:33 but it's very interesting because 950 is
0:06:35 the number of years more was giving
0:06:37 doubtless people
0:06:40 interesting
0:06:41 fitting with the sword but not only that
0:06:44 950 is also a multiple of 19.
0:06:49 individuals of that so all of these are
0:06:50 interesting things
0:06:52 but that's not that's not absolutely
0:06:54 true but this tips the balance inside of
0:06:56 this schedule it's two or three
0:06:58 programs that the text
0:07:00 which has been extracted from from
0:07:02 various documents by by by this program
0:07:05 and uh obviously available as text file
0:07:08 i think i i ask someone to to extract
0:07:10 that go to the the program and
0:07:13 i think it's available as a text in the
0:07:14 program but maybe as a database he can
0:07:17 extract the text from it seems to be the
0:07:18 closer one but does not it's not
0:07:20 absolute we have to verify almost every
0:07:22 eye and every place
0:07:29 so we have we have we have to do some
0:07:31 some some work in this direction
0:07:33 before we we indulge in numerics and
0:07:35 things like that which is uh i think
0:07:37 it's it's a is an important that this
0:07:38 subject and we are getting there it says
0:07:41 matters are getting mature in that
0:07:42 direction but uh
0:07:45 it would be full foolish to go in that
0:07:48 direction before uh also how do we
0:07:51 counter the uh the the
0:07:53 the eyes of the swollen is clear we
0:07:55 discussed that also in here in when we
0:07:58 started the uh these holocaust we
0:08:00 discussed that uh the the basque mother
0:08:03 should be not counted from the surah
0:08:04 regarded as ayah number zero
0:08:07 uh we can call it the ayah number zero
0:08:09 of the ayah of the surah so when we talk
0:08:12 about the count of the swallow mean the
0:08:13 number of the last ayah in this world
0:08:15 let's say we fix the numbers according
0:08:17 to
0:08:18 to
0:08:19 uh uh to
0:08:22 to
0:08:23 nafiya and the
0:08:24 durian as we said this is the valid one
0:08:27 until now until proven otherwise i think
0:08:29 this is about it i think evidence for
0:08:31 that is overwhelming
0:08:33 then for example the fat has 7is
0:08:38 not like half half is also seven eyes
0:08:40 but seven eyes regarding
0:08:42 and fatty as best as number one which is
0:08:45 wrong because this does not synchronize
0:08:48 with all other industries
0:08:50 so we have to we have to renumber
0:09:06 everything is consistent for example
0:09:10 but if we ask ourselves what is the
0:09:12 number what is the numbering or the
0:09:14 order of the ayah uh
0:09:20 in
0:09:38 but what is its order in the quran is
0:09:40 order the quran is containing everything
0:09:42 including the bismarck so
0:09:47 seven fatiha that's it
0:09:52 and then the first one in bakara
0:09:55 is 10
0:09:59 that's the system which you have to
0:10:00 follow because you cannot regard if you
0:10:03 look at the quran as a whole you cannot
0:10:05 take the
0:10:06 the basmati out of it if you look at the
0:10:08 surah the basmala is just number zero is
0:10:10 not counted as the eye of the surah it
0:10:12 is a separating ayah but it's i of the
0:10:14 quran which certainly
0:10:18 so the count has to be in a consistent
0:10:20 system because this system is like that
0:10:27 the correct count is this number one but
0:10:30 it's number what i said 10
0:10:32 relative to the the quran to the total
0:10:35 it is number one in bakara and about it
0:10:36 which obviously not what we have in half
0:10:40 and half so we have it
0:10:42 we don't know how to count it's not the
0:10:44 there's no consistent way but even if we
0:10:46 come to house according what's in the
0:10:48 house it will it will come wrong because
0:10:50 it will be al-fatiha would be
0:10:52 would be seven because he counted the
0:10:54 best mother wrongly then we have the bad
0:10:57 mother of bakara is
0:10:59 if you follow the same principle it will
0:11:01 be it will be eight and then alpharam
0:11:03 will be will be nine and this will be
0:11:05 number ten accidentally there will be
0:11:07 that will be number ten because because
0:11:09 the error in the fatty has corrected by
0:11:12 iflami but that's only accidentally here
0:11:14 another place it will not correct
0:11:16 but it's just by accident
0:11:18 but consistently we have to follow that
0:11:21 just take this example
0:11:23 starting from fatiha so if when we have
0:11:26 some people doing prophecies and so
0:11:27 which i am very doubtful by the way like
0:11:30 he has very nice prophecies and very
0:11:32 nice issues which is worth looking at
0:11:34 anyway i'm not saying it's completely
0:11:35 wrong but i am still
0:11:37 until i have verified
0:11:40 the various things of counts
0:11:43 he says this ayah is number four hundred
0:11:45 or three thousand seven from the
0:11:46 beginning of the program which count he
0:11:49 has used
0:11:50 if it is not a consistent one
0:11:53 a proven one i say the proven one is
0:11:55 that what i said because in the counting
0:11:56 i have no doubt about discounting
0:11:58 the accounting of nafta and the durian
0:12:01 is an absolute one i am not going to
0:12:03 give that up definitely i don't think
0:12:04 there is any other account will stand is
0:12:06 enough to say that the count in half is
0:12:09 wrong because the the iflame is given
0:12:11 number one in bakara or given elsewhere
0:12:13 certain numbers and other
0:12:15 arms giving the numbers and this does
0:12:17 not synchronize with the alaridas and
0:12:19 this is singular is an oddity in that
0:12:22 between the seven leaders and the
0:12:23 tentative and the voter leaders
0:12:25 cannot be accepted must be discounted
0:12:27 must be a mistake
0:12:29 must be not that
0:12:32 it's a minor mistake it doesn't violate
0:12:34 anything the quran is not violated by
0:12:36 that but it's only an external issue
0:12:38 related to account but it will not help
0:12:41 us in getting issues related numerical
0:12:44 and miracle aspects we have to forget
0:12:46 about this one
0:12:47 so that's one one and then how to count
0:12:49 from the guinness con i said we must
0:13:04 not quran this is just just the name of
0:13:06 this world just attacked him and this
0:13:08 reason is enclosed in a in between bars
0:13:10 and so on everyone knows that
0:13:13 but
0:13:13 is definitely one
0:13:17 so if we count from
0:13:19 any ayah in the quran
0:13:21 how what is what is this order in the
0:13:22 quran as it is and the order of the
0:13:24 messiah is also by talking one muslim in
0:13:26 the word in disorder
0:13:28 even i i mentioned also the story that
0:13:31 that
0:13:31 evening nadeem in his
0:13:46 according to the elite ali has almost
0:13:48 half has written a must-have when he is
0:13:50 secluding himself after
0:13:52 all this imaginary story which is
0:13:54 fabricated anyway
0:13:56 a must-have according to the order of
0:13:58 revelation
0:14:01 but no where in the world is the one is
0:14:03 objective he's a scientist he's a man of
0:14:05 knowledge
0:14:07 nowhere and then he heard that some
0:14:09 people having in kufa a must-have ali
0:14:12 with his hand writing or something
0:14:14 so i say we took the trouble and
0:14:16 traveled to kufa
0:14:18 at that time trouble was it was a
0:14:20 nightmare don't think it's like today
0:14:22 just take a plane and just have to
0:14:23 accommodate and maybe get from one of
0:14:25 you in front of a couple of thousands no
0:14:27 no it was sometimes life-threatening
0:14:29 traveled to kufa met these people they
0:14:31 brought that from
0:14:33 they were saving it very very
0:14:34 meticulously
0:14:36 say i scrutinized it it is the old
0:14:38 script i don't he did not say what's all
0:14:40 script most likely miss the hijab which
0:14:42 is good looks good
0:14:44 and
0:14:46 the the the parchment the the skin its
0:14:49 own skin on parchment paper that's in
0:14:51 the fourth century paper was nobody was
0:14:53 using skin anymore so the parchment is
0:14:55 old so he could from just by eyesight by
0:14:58 scrutinizing his amount of scholarship
0:15:01 man of books and so on scrutiny just by
0:15:03 the eyesight by the corner it's old it
0:15:06 seems weird from ali's writing
0:15:09 it could be very well really rated
0:15:11 unfortunately we don't have that maybe
0:15:12 it appears one day we don't know anyway
0:15:15 and he said
0:15:17 and they checked the order and so on it
0:15:20 is the same order we have it almost
0:15:22 so
0:15:22 what what the hassle the elite are
0:15:24 claiming doesn't seem to be true so this
0:15:27 only must have in the world someone
0:15:28 claiming belonging to ali is in the same
0:15:31 order
0:15:36 i don't know that's different from this
0:15:38 is must out then this story is not true
0:15:41 and if the story is true there's nothing
0:15:43 i say the torah story is not true
0:15:45 definitely
0:15:47 this is and is it is muslim
0:15:50 most likely
0:15:51 and most likely it's gone
0:16:04 m
0:16:09 so the order we don't need to discuss
0:16:11 only how to count properly
0:16:13 so all these things have to be
0:16:14 established so going back summarizing
0:16:17 we repeated maybe the first and second
0:16:19 half it's good to repeat from time to
0:16:21 time because these things may come
0:16:25 it's not the claim that is the the
0:16:27 athletic marks or these uh intrinsic
0:16:30 punctuation of the letters are
0:16:31 revelation not revelation is
0:16:34 is
0:16:36 is not
0:16:37 it is not
0:16:39 it is not formulated properly
0:16:42 it's not familiar with they may have
0:16:44 been omitted initially deliberately by
0:16:46 the revelation allowing various
0:16:49 variations of dotting and various
0:16:50 variations developing by allah if he's
0:16:53 the reveal of the quran which is the
0:16:55 hypothesis we are starting with
0:16:56 fundamental budget which is the relevant
0:16:59 for us
0:17:00 and we build on that
0:17:02 and
0:17:03 none there none there will come back
0:17:06 refuting the initial hypothesis nothing
0:17:08 could return hypothesis simply because
0:17:11 every other dot is either gibberish or
0:17:14 a very same uh
0:17:16 something which have good sense
0:17:19 makes good sense even if the sense is
0:17:21 secondary of nothing like even this
0:17:22 idiot vision would when he uh
0:17:26 changed nigeria into new zealand
0:17:28 it did not motivate the quran make
0:17:30 anything wrong or anything no they just
0:17:32 made it they were
0:17:34 they they departed him and they were in
0:17:35 back of their cameras
0:17:36 Music
0:17:38 i could hear the responses
0:17:40 nothing wrong with that maybe they were
0:17:41 about with their comments
0:17:43 but najib they were just cutting
0:17:47 and the oldest one of them to listen i'm
0:17:49 not going to go back to your dad
0:17:51 after what you know what you have to
0:17:52 what we have met what the problem we did
0:17:55 with the use of entire past you go and
0:17:57 tell him that has happened we have
0:17:59 witnesses for that and unless he forbid
0:18:02 me to come back i'm not to go back i'm
0:18:03 going to stay here i'm not going to face
0:18:06 him i'm able to face him that makes
0:18:07 better sense that we were discussing
0:18:09 that discussing with your voice clearly
0:18:11 or not screaming at each other
0:18:21 so i think this is a good summary that's
0:18:23 a good well-balanced summary and maybe
0:18:25 the secret in the quran hidden by this
0:18:27 by this way which will come in the
0:18:28 future
0:18:30 so i wouldn't go into extreme that
0:18:32 that's that's that's not that's not good
0:18:33 scholarship and that's not good the uh
0:18:36 logical and philosophical discourse
0:18:39 logic of closure make this assumption
0:18:41 this assumption what is this example is
0:18:44 this assumption leading to internal
0:18:45 contradiction then the quran from allah
0:18:47 that's fine but it doesn't lead to other
0:18:48 direction the first one
0:18:50 besides how all the independent
0:18:52 evidences are profitable but even then
0:18:54 there's nothing leading to any
0:18:55 contradiction whatsoever
0:18:58 the other assumptions are refuted by the
0:19:00 internal contradiction
0:19:02 it's for muhammad
0:19:05 that's not possible how can a human
0:19:06 being
0:19:08 who is a master liar and deceptor
0:19:11 get to get himself in this trouble
0:19:14 almost like he even can read and write
0:19:16 so why he will omit the dots in the
0:19:17 first place that's not that does not
0:19:20 doesn't make any sense
0:19:23 this definitely does not make any sense
0:19:24 that's not the way the civil and
0:19:26 political uh skilled
0:19:28 manipulator work
0:19:30 is he overwhelmed but his subconscious
0:19:32 somehow some subconscious disease he
0:19:34 mentally deranged
0:19:36 how to explain that what would be the
0:19:37 motivation what's in his past on
0:19:39 environmental historically that is it
0:19:42 the devil
0:19:43 is the devil capable having something
0:19:45 consistent like that then he's a divine
0:19:47 power that's impossible we have
0:19:49 forgotten that's the time of mark and so
0:19:51 on and this refused
0:19:54 some some some christian claim that he
0:19:56 is being inspired by the devil or it is
0:19:58 the other devils that there is not
0:19:59 capable of doing that i think this this
0:20:02 is the way to do things in a really
0:20:05 consistent rational discourse
0:20:07 that's the way to go
0:20:09 so yes just to summarize so in this uh
0:20:11 without having access to the original
0:20:13 quotes from imran hussein this this
0:20:16 whole mentality of
0:20:17 he having doubts in this issue or
0:20:19 putting this into that it's not backed
0:20:21 he's not in a it's
0:20:23 it's what we have is bhaitawata
0:20:26 and somebody to make a counter claim
0:20:28 they need to bring their evidence
0:20:29 ultimately rather than just making
0:20:30 something yeah but but let's let's get
0:20:32 let someone if why why we
0:20:35 judge something which we don't have the
0:20:36 deals what is his quote and let's see
0:20:38 the details yeah i'm trying to find the
0:20:39 original uh video but also i have this
0:20:42 there's a recording unfortunately i
0:20:43 think that somehow mukhtar has been
0:20:45 checked out he is usually following
0:21:00 so we can analyze it more probably but
0:21:02 the general principle i think i what i
0:21:04 gave now i believe this is a good
0:21:07 general i saw that i thought maybe this
0:21:09 is related to these issues and something
0:21:11 like that
0:21:12 but
0:21:13 i discussed some issues in my mind and
0:21:15 say so some people and also someone
0:21:16 actually
0:21:18 some guy i met several years ago with
0:21:20 the
0:21:21 uh with some of the brothers here in in
0:21:23 enfield around infield and so on and he
0:21:26 was stuck in these issues and he even
0:21:28 have their hair but even a copy of
0:21:31 uh
0:21:34 which shows even with pictures of the
0:21:36 original writing of the quran some old
0:21:38 parchments and so on without doubts and
0:21:40 things like that and then he started
0:21:42 doubting issues and so on and they told
0:21:44 me later that he became more than i
0:21:45 don't know what has happened to him i
0:21:47 didn't meet with him after that
0:21:49 but because he because he
0:21:51 he he went with that upside down logic
0:21:54 that's the reason i needed to clarify
0:21:56 and insist to clarify that we have to do
0:21:59 various hypotheses and go from there
0:22:02 i would say
0:22:04 the omission
0:22:06 that is very important to the following
0:22:08 from them that that the intrinsic dot
0:22:11 of characters is
0:22:13 available in arabic at the time of the
0:22:14 prophet even before
0:22:16 it has been omitted in the quran
0:22:18 deliberately
0:22:19 most likely either allah
0:22:22 forced
0:22:23 which is not very likely to already
0:22:25 everything miraculous no his messenger
0:22:27 told them to omit these deliberately
0:22:31 which
0:22:32 which symbolized very well that after
0:22:34 the revelation after some time maybe
0:22:36 later in the later writings when was
0:22:38 things were combined with the quran he
0:22:40 has got some basic reading and writing
0:22:43 which is very reasonable and very
0:22:44 acceptable should not be because some
0:22:46 people think this is very it's that that
0:22:48 he was elected that's not true whatever
0:22:50 is
0:22:59 before
0:23:00 otherwise for the people of falsehood
0:23:03 will be in doubt
0:23:04 that's the time within mecca and
0:23:07 in makkah for a certain time and things
0:23:09 were only
0:23:10 committed to memory and a bit of writing
0:23:12 like the scroll
0:23:14 read about and things like that very
0:23:16 little and later in medina when he
0:23:18 settled nicely
0:23:28 ahead of his father we don't know but in
0:23:30 that time he's for last four years then
0:23:32 things were committed that is enough
0:23:34 time to at least know the shapes of the
0:23:36 letters and the dots and order now don't
0:23:38 put a lot here that's it symbol
0:23:42 so
0:23:43 and that's that's part of the miraculous
0:23:45 nation of the quran not the opposite it
0:23:47 is more supporting the
0:23:49 done more
0:23:49 opposite
0:23:51 because it contradicts any normal human
0:23:53 behavior or satanic behavior
0:23:55 that's not the way said and what nor
0:23:57 human human conscious human or
0:24:00 subconscious human work
0:24:02 if they if you write your your your live
0:24:05 book or the book you regard as the main
0:24:07 things of your life and your and you
0:24:09 hold reading and and and
0:24:11 and compilation sessions
0:24:13 you you you would be insisting on having
0:24:15 every dot and even he may have he may
0:24:18 have been even older people to do the
0:24:20 tashkeel at that time even importing the
0:24:22 skill of the jews because they
0:24:24 abdullahi salaam is there he's a
0:24:26 converted jew and scholar uh
0:24:28 the way the cab is there they have
0:24:31 they could suggest to him and he could
0:24:32 accept if he would have been an impostor
0:24:35 but no even even the dots of the letter
0:24:37 have been omitted deliberately that's
0:24:39 contradict anything with imposter would
0:24:41 order with with mentally deranged or
0:24:43 anything he says have something odd
0:24:44 something bordering on the
0:24:48 observed all the miraculous
0:24:50 the miraculous looks from the other side
0:24:52 as if it's absorbed because it does not
0:24:54 fit normal human behavior
0:24:56 that's the way to go
0:24:58 the list fine points about the critical
0:25:00 things that we can't see what
0:25:01 is say maybe he has a point
0:25:04 i would advise strongly not to jump with
0:25:06 the gun in these things that's that's
0:25:07 that would be a great mistake
0:25:11 could be a deadly mistake maybe the mind
0:25:13 is right man is right maybe his
0:25:15 objective certain things
0:25:17 like somehow because when he say about
0:25:19 quran he usually means poor guy most
0:25:21 likely means house i think also
0:25:25 all of the things in the quran quran's
0:25:27 house no quran is the reading of the
0:25:29 quran
0:25:30 and certainly are critical marks to the
0:25:32 quran
0:25:32 not only not all the quran not what i
0:25:35 revealed that revealed as i said
0:25:37 the original script would not removed
0:25:39 and so on would the divine invention
0:25:41 evidently by revelation to allow certain
0:25:43 readings and certain meanings and
0:25:44 certain things
0:25:46 and possibly things to come later
0:25:51 down the road which we don't have now
0:25:53 why we exclude that
0:25:56 i don't see any reason for excluding
0:25:57 that
0:25:59 just opposite i say we should keep the
0:26:01 door open
0:26:07 you see what i mean
0:26:15 yeah definitely yeah so that's that's it
0:26:18 so let someone
0:26:19 just sit in his bum sorry to say that
0:26:22 cut that away from the video
0:26:24 and
0:26:25 get what's wrong
0:26:27 what amran has said
0:26:28 said
0:26:29 even his recording
0:26:31 and let us scotianize it i think it's
0:26:32 maybe worse
0:26:34 not that the man is going ballistic and
0:26:35 metallogisticology i think
0:26:38 and according to balochi is doing
0:26:39 entertainment okay fine maybe it's
0:26:41 entertainment but i have no problem with
0:26:43 that but
0:26:44 i have a real problem if he is such an
0:26:45 issue is not scrutinized much better
0:26:47 than that maybe he has a point
0:26:50 that someone is blatantly wrong or or
0:26:54 went off tangent because he got confused
0:26:56 about a certain point about some hadith
0:26:58 or corrected some hadith or reports and
0:27:01 gave them
0:27:02 gave them more more more value than for
0:27:05 example one of his mistakes but he is
0:27:07 cannot be blamed for that mistake for
0:27:08 example unique claim
0:27:10 the conversion of biosoftware by force
0:27:12 into a masjid and so on this is is a
0:27:14 shame for the ultimate
0:27:16 it turns out to be all not true we know
0:27:18 that with the commentary evidence that
0:27:20 was not convicted by force
0:27:24 negotiated with the with the i don't
0:27:26 know the name of the of the of the pope
0:27:28 of the uh of the authority at the time
0:27:31 because the
0:27:32 orthodox
0:27:33 the russian orthodox one or the eastern
0:27:35 luxon has split from wrong they have
0:27:37 their own pope negotiated them
0:27:39 respectfully and paid a considerable sum
0:27:42 of money more than and we know that the
0:27:44 churches since ancient time until now
0:27:46 they have no problem with selling
0:27:48 charges
0:27:49 and he paid more
0:27:50 considerable more than the value at the
0:27:52 time i think
0:27:54 and all of that recorded in a document
0:27:55 and that argument was in a court
0:27:57 scrutiny for decades
0:27:59 and ultimately the secular court of
0:28:00 turkey decided that this is a walk and
0:28:03 should be respected should be returned
0:28:04 back
0:28:06 and the action of ataturk is against the
0:28:08 principle of walk on the principle of
0:28:10 fundamental law which all humans agree
0:28:12 upon that walks and in dormant should be
0:28:15 respected
0:28:17 there's a common law of england the
0:28:19 common law of the turks the common law
0:28:20 of the gods everyone know in domestic
0:28:23 are respected nobody realized them
0:28:24 except in any unjustified way or if if
0:28:27 the work contains condition which are
0:28:29 unjust or
0:28:30 or oppressive then the court should
0:28:32 should decide to
0:28:34 amend them that's the way to do with
0:28:36 endowments and we have now the ruling i
0:28:38 came to know that only recently
0:28:40 i think the turks are to blame that to
0:28:42 believe that they did not broadcast that
0:28:43 iliad gave us this information i was
0:28:45 actually shocked to use this information
0:28:47 so if the if you say there's an eternal
0:28:49 shame for the earth money and so on yeah
0:28:51 it's a bit excessive to say that in that
0:28:53 form
0:28:54 yes
0:28:56 but
0:28:57 still he has a point he was unaware
0:28:59 about that one i was not aware i think
0:29:01 all of you were not aware
0:29:04 so i would advise myself and everyone
0:29:06 not to go accessibly in these things
0:29:08 neither him obviously to go as a eternal
0:29:15 we know kings are committing all all
0:29:17 kinds of lenders are mistakes cannot be
0:29:19 attributed to islam
0:29:22 even if he had done it like this
0:29:24 it's shameful yes and we should be
0:29:26 denounced yes if it has been like that
0:29:29 but on the other hand it turns out to be
0:29:31 not like that
0:29:35 eschatology i think the problem is that
0:29:37 he is not
0:29:39 and you cannot blame all the
0:29:40 subcontinental scholars and also because
0:29:42 i think
0:29:43 i don't if he's a former shia background
0:29:45 or he's inclined to she is most or
0:29:46 whatever it is they are generally tend
0:29:48 to be
0:29:49 less
0:29:50 scrutinizing and hadithans from me but
0:29:52 also certainly they have their own
0:29:53 master blenders in
0:29:55 especially
0:29:57 they have tons of friends there anyway
0:29:59 both of them both parties well the shia
0:30:02 have even an extra load because of this
0:30:04 the one in
0:30:05 in in the tunnel in
0:30:07 in in
0:30:09 in samara and so on this imaginary
0:30:11 figure in some other they are stuck with
0:30:13 it believing a couple of liars there who
0:30:15 are fabricating stories and so on
0:30:19 but
0:30:20 it can't happen
0:30:23 such publications can influence the
0:30:25 religion or the direction for for
0:30:27 millennia look at current christianity
0:30:30 few fabricated things so
0:30:31 a free misleading and confusing
0:30:34 statement from paul was sufficient to
0:30:36 undermine or i was listening just
0:30:39 yesterday to a video or a theory an
0:30:41 american conductor islam say i'm
0:30:43 appealed to my american brothers
0:30:46 if you want to be a good christian
0:30:47 become muslims
0:30:48 because islam had more give you the
0:30:51 reality of christ and then he read
0:30:52 various
0:30:53 i know these things but he when he reads
0:30:55 from them from the other side it sounds
0:30:58 different
0:30:59 he read various statements from mark and
0:31:01 from matthew
0:31:05 to someone if you wanted eternal life
0:31:07 you want to paradise and keep the
0:31:09 commandments and the more biggest
0:31:11 command is that
0:31:12 listen
0:31:14 our lord is one our god is one
0:31:18 and he says clearly i mean he said with
0:31:20 you are you good man good master tell me
0:31:22 say why you call me good there's only
0:31:23 one god that's god
0:31:26 our god in heaven and he was praying
0:31:29 through this god so so many things and
0:31:31 still
0:31:32 the people are stuck with a
0:31:33 misinterpretation or a misrepresentation
0:31:35 of paul
0:31:36 going ballistic in in in giving christ
0:31:39 excessive languages although paul says
0:31:41 clearly everyone knows there's only one
0:31:43 god he said that
0:31:45 they were discussing the issue of
0:31:46 sacrificing to the idols so it doesn't
0:31:48 matter let me sacrifice whether it's
0:31:50 only in the imagination we know there's
0:31:52 only one god so you can't eat it that's
0:31:54 obviously a false argument but it's not
0:31:56 an issue there
0:32:00 and christ is is our lord we use the
0:32:02 word killian not the us so
0:32:05 still the misunderstanding they
0:32:06 underdeveloped for fabricating him along
0:32:08 the line and other stories and imaginary
0:32:11 things until become a whole completely
0:32:13 pagan religion
0:32:15 so it can happen
0:32:18 the only way after that is just to go to
0:32:20 really
0:32:20 service of reason and scrutinize things
0:32:22 more thoroughly and go more digitally
0:32:24 more more cleanly
0:32:26 and go to original sources and
0:32:28 scrutinize them you will get shocked at
0:32:29 many things we should assume to be oh
0:32:32 another another massive problem is
0:32:34 when you look at prophecies you know for
0:32:36 example the narration talking about the
0:32:39 the two bags that will talk
0:32:41 for someone to take something which is
0:32:43 inherently not that's not necessarily to
0:32:45 the same level of scrutiny as uh
0:32:48 and then they took them from it so for
0:32:49 example
0:32:50 he feels an entire construct i haven't
0:32:52 heard everything that he says because i
0:32:54 can't really stomach him but when he
0:32:56 starts to back
0:32:57 bishop or he backs putin
0:33:00 based off of some kind of
0:33:02 narrative he's built so eve even prof
0:33:05 hey you know in assault or surely build
0:33:07 something so you build something like
0:33:08 that because
0:33:10 is building on the classical also which
0:33:12 have fundamental faults also even even
0:33:14 pascal doesn't doesn't take us
0:33:17 something that's prophecy and make a
0:33:18 hookum from it unless no no no
0:33:21 the other also may have that they may
0:33:23 have that very well if they if
0:33:26 if imam shafi allows for ishmael of a
0:33:28 generation to get the previous man and
0:33:31 the future is not going to be obvious
0:33:33 one
0:33:33 then you can't do that the same one i
0:33:35 don't see any difference between them
0:33:40 fine there's a logical inconsistency but
0:33:42 within absolutely i say the same the
0:33:44 same is the same it is the same disease
0:33:48 it's the same disease if you don't go to
0:33:49 the fundamental
0:33:52 that the quran is the fundamental and
0:33:54 the revelation ended by the death of
0:33:55 obama after that everything has to go
0:33:58 back to that and scrutinize it
0:34:01 whatever it is prophecy how come
0:34:03 anything
0:34:04 then you you will you will you will go
0:34:10 it is you will find many people
0:34:12 constructing that these all these
0:34:13 rebelling i guess
0:34:15 against bashar actually because they
0:34:16 want to demolish the graves of albert
0:34:18 they are
0:34:32 many thousands of saudis believe that
0:34:33 their many are cafe
0:34:35 come on
0:34:37 let's speak with barack it's not it's
0:34:39 not as easy as you think as long as you
0:34:41 don't go to the fundamental school and
0:34:43 clean them thoroughly
0:34:44 you you will be you will be falling in
0:34:46 one trouble or another
0:34:54 you see you you see you can't
0:34:56 consistently apply the same soul to the
0:34:57 saudis we're doing in yemen and fighting
0:35:00 under the banner of the kuffar and
0:35:01 fulfilling the agenda of islam and so on
0:35:03 the same one with with the with with
0:35:06 what's happening in it with with the
0:35:07 character they he is not able to do that
0:35:11 because his soul and his his
0:35:13 preconditions are wrong
0:35:16 affiliations too yeah and affiliations
0:35:18 too yeah that's a problem
0:35:20 and how are also inclinations it's very
0:35:22 difficult to overcome your inclination
0:35:24 and your upbringing also
0:35:27 anyway i'm not defending the man or okay
0:35:29 but i'm saying we have to be a little
0:35:31 bit more especially in this point when
0:35:32 it comes to the quran and things that
0:35:34 fundamental we have to get exactly what
0:35:36 he said and what's going on and where he
0:35:39 must have applied to a certain ayah or a
0:35:41 certain hadith or something like that
0:35:43 let us see what's there
0:35:45 it's it's worth really in the work
0:35:47 i i think
0:35:48 hearsay is not good
0:35:50 there must be some recording there maybe
0:35:53 balush is quoting him but even we
0:35:55 shouldn't rely on balush quotation
0:35:58 although i think baloch seemed to be
0:35:59 reasonably well balanced but still he
0:36:01 may be having a wrong court
0:36:03 and nowadays we there's no excuse
0:36:06 because the people have their own
0:36:07 recording and their own meetings and
0:36:09 then we can't see what they said
0:36:13 and what they wrote
0:36:15 and then we can analyze it and see what
0:36:17 they sometimes say the lapse of tongues
0:36:19 sometimes it's a
0:36:21 bad formulation sometimes it's
0:36:23 formulated precisely and exactly and
0:36:26 then we can then account on that that
0:36:28 reason
0:36:31 for example this if if you
0:36:34 for that for example this one for
0:36:35 example this this recording today if you
0:36:38 process it maybe quickly and then and
0:36:40 broadcast it quickly because it's like
0:36:41 an odd one out
0:36:44 you will see many people commenting i
0:36:46 almost declared the quran as being you
0:36:47 can't vary and ah at the quran right
0:36:50 rewrite the quran according to your
0:36:51 wishes or you can report the quran
0:36:53 according to meaning
0:36:55 you will find that you'll find people
0:36:56 you'll find donkeys making that comment
0:36:58 you'll find
0:37:00 just put it in youtube and see which
0:37:01 comments are there
0:37:05 he would be
0:37:06 surprised
0:37:08 anyway i think it is very productive
0:37:10 today that we did that because from time
0:37:11 to time we need to go to these
0:37:12 fundamental issues and give them because
0:37:15 first of all it's important to refresh
0:37:18 our mind about that
0:37:20 secondly uh there may be issues coming
0:37:23 from time to time obviously worth
0:37:26 working giving another uh like another
0:37:29 cover of
0:37:31 new paint because the old paint has
0:37:33 become become a little bit
0:37:35 pale so we have to paint it new to to
0:37:37 enforce them
0:37:39 or
0:37:39 remove the old paint if it's not good
0:37:41 and
0:37:42 we made a mistake we have to paint it
0:37:43 another color that's fine
0:37:45 we should we should improve should the
0:37:46 dynamically continue
0:37:49 whatever comes along new developments
0:37:51 and your ideas
0:37:54 but i think i have i hope i've
0:37:55 summarized this relationship i'm more
0:37:57 getting more and more interested about
0:37:59 these issues of numerics and immorality
0:38:01 but for that i will not go in there in
0:38:04 any deeper unless we have
0:38:05 really established
0:38:07 getting uh as a clean text according to
0:38:10 the art mania writing as clean as
0:38:12 possible
0:38:13 and there are a few and they say just
0:38:15 need a little bit more work hopefully
0:38:16 someone listening to that will have the
0:38:18 energy and the time to sit and then
0:38:20 let's
0:38:21 go back and square rise one by one step
0:38:23 by step
0:38:24 secondly establish the principle of
0:38:26 county way and then just and then
0:38:28 develop there are also some programs in
0:38:30 them please maybe we can't develop them
0:38:32 further and we'll go from there
0:38:35 we may detect something
0:38:37 interesting and marvelous which we have
0:38:39 missed until now
0:38:42 okay i think this is that's a good one
0:38:44 but
0:38:45 i think this is very important we should
0:38:47 we should get to let someone or someone
0:38:50 who follow him get the relevant videos
0:38:52 or at least start with video which is in
0:38:54 in
0:38:56 in
0:38:56 Music
0:38:57 in youtube i saw i said the title that
0:38:59 didn't go unless i say my maybe because
0:39:02 i saw
0:39:03 eschatology and they tell him to say
0:39:04 maybe he is
0:39:05 saying i don't want to introduce
0:39:07 indulgent mocking but but it seems to be
0:39:09 reasonable more or less
0:39:11 more much more reasonable than the
0:39:13 average
0:39:15 but someone can start with their
0:39:16 undersea where he's quoting him maybe
0:39:18 he's mentioning the reference and that
0:39:20 will go from there okay so i think
0:39:22 that's what yeah
0:39:25 okay until next week inshallah
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0:39:36 Music
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0:40:10 Music
0:40:27 so
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