The REAL differences between SUNNI AND SHIA.|| BR. Mohammed Hijab (2016-10-12) ​

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0:00:12 r-rahman r-rahim
0:00:14 today one will be talking about is I'm
0:00:15 going to be talking about the
0:00:16 differences between Sunnis and Shia and
0:00:18 this is something which people need to
0:00:20 know the educate about be informed about
0:00:22 and also it's an important thing for the
0:00:25 truth seeker to be able to have access
0:00:27 to so without further ado do I'm going
0:00:31 to talk about something that the Sunnis
0:00:32 or other people from maybe a non-muslim
0:00:35 perspective would think about when they
0:00:37 think about yes or they think about as
0:00:39 things like motor marriages may be
0:00:41 temporary marriage
0:00:43 Takia which is the ability for or the
0:00:45 allowance for share to be able to lie
0:00:47 any in sense situations and maybe
0:00:50 potentially the damaja D de Maddie for
0:00:54 the share is obviously different in
0:00:55 character in description and the
0:00:58 metaphor the Sunnis and potentially they
0:01:02 might be acquainted with the fact that
0:01:05 you know she has believed that Ali
0:01:07 should have been the successor to the
0:01:09 Prophet and Sunnis believe that the buck
0:01:12 should have been a successful project
0:01:13 when people think about the differences
0:01:15 between Sunni and Shia these are the
0:01:17 kind of things that come into or crop
0:01:18 into your mind I want to say something
0:01:21 to you guys I think these are not
0:01:23 actually the primary differences between
0:01:26 Sunni and Shiah the primary differences
0:01:29 between Sunni and Shia I would say hola
0:01:33 alum are three number one is the status
0:01:37 of the Quran number two is the Sahaba
0:01:42 and number three or the Companions the
0:01:44 profitable through is Amana these are
0:01:46 three things which I would say are the
0:01:49 pillars of difference between Sunnis and
0:01:51 Shia so I'm mentioning these things not
0:01:54 to cause a fitna or corruption in the
0:01:56 land or something like this I mention
0:01:58 these things because it's the right of
0:01:59 the consumer to understand these
0:02:02 differences when conceptualizing Islam
0:02:04 in general now the first thing we can
0:02:07 talk about quickly is a Quran now the
0:02:10 Quran clearly is Muslims believe send
0:02:13 on top of mohammed by the angel gabriel
0:02:15 etc but being honest here I have to be
0:02:19 honest that when you look into the
0:02:21 classical Shia scholarship it's very
0:02:24 clear that there's a difference of
0:02:25 opinion between the scholars in Shia and
0:02:27 the shear school reform especially the
0:02:30 12 she at school of thought as it
0:02:32 relates to the preservation of the Quran
0:02:34 so there are these who take the the
0:02:37 Islamic position that darkness preserves
0:02:39 its and under Prophet and the things
0:02:41 that we've been reiterating and this on
0:02:43 our channel so you can refer to it and
0:02:44 those Shia who basically don't take this
0:02:47 large position and this is in this
0:02:50 scholarship and they don't basically
0:02:51 believe it before honest preserved
0:02:53 because they don't see that the Sahaba
0:02:54 or the Companions have done a good job
0:02:57 in preserving the Quran and of course
0:03:00 some of the it's the classical scholars
0:03:03 I can call them are people like a table
0:03:05 row see who actually wrote a book called
0:03:08 in translation the fossil clipper first
0:03:12 of all Qatar basically the final say
0:03:14 Fattah leaf kitab ruble are bad they
0:03:18 envy in the lack of pro the corruption
0:03:21 of the book of the lord of the Lord's
0:03:23 which here means obviously Allah so this
0:03:27 is one example
0:03:28 Romanian in his book cash alisov he also
0:03:33 mentions the fact in page 117 that the
0:03:37 he believes that the Quran is not
0:03:39 present however this shouldn't be said
0:03:43 without also saying that there are other
0:03:46 people like Ali kami one of the one of
0:03:49 the air Kamel sorry Ally can read one of
0:03:52 the shoe one of the Shia she you have
0:03:55 said that the Quran is preserved so
0:03:57 there are two different of repeater two
0:04:00 kinds of opinions exist within she has
0:04:02 clearly now those who have the opinion
0:04:05 that Quran to preserve which I genuinely
0:04:08 believe are the majority I genuinely
0:04:11 believe I personally believe are the
0:04:13 overwhelming majority but because I
0:04:17 would love to believe that and I think
0:04:19 that is true but it's very difficult to
0:04:20 find out through sociological studies of
0:04:23 mr. Ono
0:04:24 those who do believe that
0:04:26 and is preserved and the Quran is the
0:04:28 word of Allah subhana Allah and this be
0:04:30 sent down to mohammed salah salem which
0:04:32 is the normative islamic position those
0:04:35 who have that islamic position we can
0:04:37 then talk about the second thing which
0:04:40 we're going to segue into now it with a
0:04:43 bit more conviction number two here
0:04:45 which is what we said we're going to
0:04:47 talk about in terms of the steps is the
0:04:50 status of the Sahaba the Sahaba
0:04:53 what is the sir what are who others have
0:04:55 a Sahab are basically the Companions of
0:04:57 the Prophet the Companions of the
0:04:59 Prophet asahi V is a companion the
0:05:02 Sahaba other companions endless Elohim
0:05:06 are described as a hobby as someone who
0:05:09 has met the Prophet Malachi and Nabi
0:05:11 whoever has let the pro met the prophet
0:05:13 and he's a what kind of walk me learn
0:05:15 and he's a more he was a Muslim or she
0:05:17 was a Muslim and were metal eidetic and
0:05:20 then died upon this idea slam so as a
0:05:24 hobby according to Islamic the Islamic
0:05:26 tradition of the sorry the Anderson of
0:05:27 Jamaat tradition is someone who's met
0:05:30 the Prophet died upon Islam and there's
0:05:31 nothing to show that he is not a Muslim
0:05:33 now from a Sunni perspective the Sahaba
0:05:38 are seen as the transmitters of the
0:05:42 revelation by both the Quran and the
0:05:44 Sunnah now if if we do take the Shia
0:05:48 position which I'm going to outline in a
0:05:50 second then we would if we take our
0:05:53 skeptical extreme to its max we could
0:05:56 actually say that the Quran would be
0:05:58 corrupted by having said this what do
0:06:02 the see a sec I mean if you look at
0:06:04 Kathy which is the second most
0:06:05 authoritative book or salute Kathy and
0:06:08 it's actually three sections and Kathy
0:06:10 is about 83 for this year or sulfur on
0:06:14 cetera if you look at carefully which is
0:06:16 the second most authoritative book for
0:06:18 the four she ad you'll find that it says
0:06:21 in caffeine and I'll put the references
0:06:23 maybe in the description box that can
0:06:27 basically the Companions of the Prophet
0:06:30 were as hub rid their Aleph Alessa that
0:06:34 they were apostates except for three and
0:06:38 they mentioned who
0:06:39 3r and they say it was mcdead and it was
0:06:43 with a brother Valley
0:06:45 and it was Samantha see these are the
0:06:47 three companions which are not apostates
0:06:50 according to the Shia tradition of
0:06:52 course in addition to elevate who who
0:06:56 are the compacted the family the
0:06:57 immediate family of the Prophet who they
0:07:00 would say is Hassan Hassan fathom etc
0:07:02 now these are big differences here
0:07:05 because once again if you concede that
0:07:09 the Sahaba aquifer and this is exactly
0:07:13 what one of the Shia scholar says in one
0:07:15 of his books he actually wrote a book
0:07:19 and he entitled one of the the chapters
0:07:24 cough celesta or basically not only do
0:07:32 we talk about the disbelief of the
0:07:34 Sahaba in general but the she has make
0:07:35 specific intentions specific takfeer or
0:07:38 specific some she admits specific fears
0:07:41 to walk Rahman Ali and I know gnarly
0:07:44 robot arm on and off men
0:07:48 they make specific tech fit to these
0:07:49 three mean meaning that they say that
0:07:51 these people are not Muslims because
0:07:53 they use sub tally from his rightful
0:07:56 right to have you know the successorship
0:08:02 of the Prophet this is basically the
0:08:06 Shia position so once again if you take
0:08:08 this position you could fall into the
0:08:10 the first category of people who denied
0:08:13 the Quran preservation but in addition
0:08:15 to that there are lots of the problems
0:08:17 that for example if you look at the life
0:08:19 of values near batalov he didn't come
0:08:21 out and say to to to these three
0:08:25 successes to a rock rock Alan robock arm
0:08:29 up and off men that I believe you were
0:08:32 cuckoo far and this is not in their
0:08:34 screen in their books and neither is
0:08:36 enables he doesn't I mean if you look
0:08:39 carefully he actually praised behind
0:08:41 those people and in Islam if you play
0:08:43 behind the disbeliever your prayer is
0:08:45 invalid in fact more than that he ali
0:08:48 had two sons one of them he named he had
0:08:51 more than two sons
0:08:52 I mean two sons who he specifically
0:08:54 named Abu Bakr and Armour
0:08:58 in addition to that you know Ali had
0:09:01 married his daughter to armor will hot
0:09:04 tub or Mukul Phu so he married her off
0:09:06 to this man and clearly if this was a
0:09:10 disbeliever then it wouldn't be a
0:09:13 legitimate marriage in Islam so this
0:09:15 would mean that he's doing something in
0:09:17 Islam which is considered basically
0:09:20 allowing his daughter to do something
0:09:23 which is completely how these are some
0:09:26 things which Sunnis would reply say look
0:09:27 this is what you're doing the issue with
0:09:29 your thesis yeah or the thesis that the
0:09:32 Sahaba are not basically Muslim but
0:09:39 having said this also the Quran Mexico
0:09:41 the Quran itself makes it a if we look
0:09:44 at certain fan chapters amber forty a of
0:09:46 the Quran a loss of her Lata himself he
0:09:48 says Lockhart around Yolo and what we
0:09:50 need a IDEO Bayona katate shardana well
0:09:52 you know if equal over him well John I
0:09:54 mean do need a deacon fat hankering they
0:09:56 said that's so Allah has low he knows
0:09:59 the Sydney would argue he knows that
0:10:04 colada rowdy Allah sorry Allah is
0:10:06 pleased with those people who have made
0:10:08 by a to you under the tree may I means
0:10:11 the Pledge of Allegiance and there's no
0:10:13 difference of opinion that these
0:10:14 individuals included off man and
0:10:16 included included of Oakland and these
0:10:20 big names that basically the Sunnis take
0:10:23 as big names in the shares some of them
0:10:25 I would say quite openly excommunicate
0:10:28 from the faith altogether so if we look
0:10:30 at the Quran the Quran makes it very
0:10:32 clear and other verses like at the final
0:10:34 verse of that very chapter chapter forty
0:10:37 eight it says Muhammad Rasul Allah we're
0:10:39 letting Amon Amarth
0:10:40 wears you down a little far behind a
0:10:41 better home and it continues the verses
0:10:43 continue so it says that Prophet
0:10:44 Muhammad is the soul of Allah so Allah
0:10:46 and the ones who are bullied with him
0:10:47 are basically a details of so many
0:10:50 different things good traits would say
0:10:53 of the Sahara now having said that
0:10:57 having spoken about the second major
0:10:58 difference I'll talk about about the
0:11:00 third major difference the third major
0:11:01 difference is and it's a very big one
0:11:03 mmm now mmm
0:11:05 if you look at the Islamic tradition
0:11:07 yeah if you look at the Islamic
0:11:09 tradition you'll find that Muslims all
0:11:12 agree that there are six pillars of Eman
0:11:16 there are five pillars of Islam six
0:11:18 pillars of Eman and took them below
0:11:20 Malaika too because we Rosalee William
0:11:21 laughing we'll call the fella who shot
0:11:23 that you believe in Allah and his
0:11:24 messengers and his messengers etc etc
0:11:27 etc there are six pillars of Eman which
0:11:29 is faith now we would consider these six
0:11:33 pillars of faith as they would say the
0:11:34 pillars or the foundation of our creed
0:11:39 or belief all Muslims would say she has
0:11:43 now have in addition to this what they
0:11:45 say is that we believe in Amana Amana is
0:11:48 the idea that there are 12 mm mm means
0:11:52 kind of linguistically means leaders or
0:11:55 people to be followed that's all we must
0:11:58 beginning with Ali ibn ABI Talib and
0:12:00 ending with Muhammad has not asked any
0:12:04 that all of these 12 imams are number
0:12:07 one infallible that they incapable of
0:12:09 making mistakes number two that they
0:12:11 have all knowledge number three that
0:12:13 they can some people say that they have
0:12:15 control of the that rod even the atoms
0:12:17 of creation they have control of it and
0:12:20 so on and so forth so these twelve imams
0:12:22 according to the shia are incredibly
0:12:26 basically perfect they are perfect in
0:12:29 every way shape and form and we have to
0:12:34 follow them according to Shia in order
0:12:36 to seek to get salvation in order to get
0:12:39 salvation now the question that's
0:12:41 suddenly supposed to she eyes now is if
0:12:45 we look at the Quran from the beginning
0:12:49 of the Quran to the end of the Quran we
0:12:51 will we will find many mentions not just
0:12:53 one mentioned but many mentions of all
0:12:55 of the foundational elements of of
0:12:57 leader or faith will find many mentions
0:13:01 of like for example the day of judgment
0:13:05 Allah this is all the things I've just
0:13:06 mentioned the things which are the six
0:13:08 pillars of you but when you try and do
0:13:09 the same thing for Iman the question now
0:13:13 is where does the Quran mentioned email
0:13:14 from the beginning of it to the end of
0:13:16 it
0:13:16 now clearly those ancient probably
0:13:19 hopefully they don't adjust the
0:13:21 discipline yin is not present nowadays
0:13:23 but these may be classical minded she
0:13:26 has Orthodox she has or whatever you
0:13:29 want to call them maybe I should call
0:13:31 off the dogs maybe extremists
0:13:33 she has they will save me with the Quran
0:13:35 or preserved the original Quran had
0:13:37 18,000 verses and you know
0:13:40 therefore yeah those verses that talk
0:13:43 about him and I've been lifted but for
0:13:46 those she has who maintain that the
0:13:49 Quran is preserved and that the Quran
0:13:52 has not been changed which hopefully I
0:13:54 will say is the majority the question
0:13:56 now is how would they respond to the
0:13:58 fact that Eman or the idea of the
0:14:01 leadership of the twelve and it's not
0:14:02 mentioned anywhere in the Quran in any
0:14:04 explicit way at all and this is very
0:14:06 very clear afford to see so this is a
0:14:10 question that Sunnis have been
0:14:11 historically posing - she adds forever a
0:14:13 long time and she has have been
0:14:15 grappling with it and you could say that
0:14:17 they've been referencing somehow yet
0:14:20 maybe a little Merida with some other
0:14:23 places which have vague references or
0:14:25 ambiguous references which are not clear
0:14:28 and definitely don't mention any of the
0:14:30 names of any of the 12 Imams beginning
0:14:32 from Allium nebith all have been ending
0:14:35 with muhammad even has an ascot even by
0:14:38 the way in a book written by a Potosi
0:14:41 who is one of the biggest shia scholars
0:14:44 in this field he says that in page in
0:14:47 the book allah hyper page number 74 he
0:14:50 says that this man has a mascetti who's
0:14:53 the eleventh he man didn't have any
0:14:54 children anyways so there would be 11
0:14:56 imams and this would possible problems
0:14:59 if this if this is true before the fact
0:15:01 that there are 12 and this is obviously
0:15:04 a shock you Scott but having said this
0:15:08 the question now would be where did the
0:15:10 idea come from
0:15:11 and remember if it didn't come from the
0:15:14 Quran if it didn't come from the
0:15:16 prophets himself the Salama if it don't
0:15:19 come from so what are the alternate
0:15:20 theories and there are some
0:15:21 controversial theories other I'm not
0:15:23 saying I subscribe to any one particular
0:15:24 I'm saying I'll put them up there for
0:15:26 education purposes and that one theory
0:15:30 according to
0:15:31 some people she ransom actually Shia
0:15:35 Anson I know substantiate my claim is
0:15:38 that the idea of email actually came
0:15:40 from a human being called Abdul live in
0:15:44 seven and I hope this yeah if you're
0:15:46 watching this you know gonna switch off
0:15:47 and get angry because I know you've had
0:15:49 this family before okay I know you've
0:15:51 heard this before I'm not trying to say
0:15:52 that it's true or false I'm just saying
0:15:54 it's an idea it's in the scholarly works
0:15:56 of Shias and sooner
0:15:57 for example Abdullah bin Sabah is being
0:16:00 said by someone called open me who is a
0:16:03 Shia scholar who wrote a book and and in
0:16:08 that picture is called Philip a Shia and
0:16:10 this book in page 32 of the book it says
0:16:14 that he Abdullah bin Sabah is a woman of
0:16:17 a homework ailment Shahidah he's the
0:16:20 first person to testify be a befall did
0:16:26 he member to highly alehissalaam what of
0:16:29 the Hara el buro attack and there he he
0:16:32 says that he is the food this is exactly
0:16:34 what he says in page 32 he says that he
0:16:38 I be abdullah bin sabah is the first
0:16:40 person to say that it's obligatory to
0:16:45 believe in the e mama and he uses
0:16:46 exactly the word email or valley and he
0:16:50 says allah he sir because he is a she
0:16:51 app and have been son is just the same
0:16:54 thing Ali Salim is not necessarily
0:16:56 something I'm attacking anyone on of
0:17:00 Hara el buro attack I mean he says that
0:17:03 and he is the first person to really
0:17:06 show animosity yeah against those who
0:17:10 people who he says are the enemies of
0:17:12 Ali who he's referring to obviously arm
0:17:15 honorable doctor etc so the there are
0:17:19 competing theories of how this idea of
0:17:22 Imam has actually entered the Islamic
0:17:25 framework or has entered the minds of
0:17:29 people who promote the idea and this is
0:17:33 one theory and certainly it's been
0:17:34 mentioned by Sunnis and Shia but there
0:17:38 are the theories and I'm not here to
0:17:41 make you have you know how complete
0:17:42 discussion about that but it's important
0:17:44 for us to know
0:17:45 not only the differences but perhaps
0:17:47 where the differences came from as well
0:17:50 one of the issues really what we've
0:17:53 talked about one issue which is that you
0:17:56 wouldn't be able to find a verse which
0:17:59 is unequivocal and unambiguous that
0:18:00 talks about the Imams in a certain way
0:18:03 and the other so that's one key issue
0:18:06 but another issue is really a credo if
0:18:09 we say that as many have said and I'll
0:18:11 put some references in the description
0:18:12 box for those who really wanted to
0:18:14 research that the amount for example
0:18:17 knows everything if we say that the
0:18:20 Imams know everything they know
0:18:22 everything
0:18:22 this is welcome any says this is what
0:18:24 many of the scholars classical and
0:18:26 contemporary have said about the amounts
0:18:27 they know everything if this is the case
0:18:30 and some sunnis have argued if this is
0:18:33 the case that you're saying that the
0:18:34 imams know everything then would that
0:18:38 suggest that they are more knowledge in
0:18:40 the Prophet Mohammed said I'll say no in
0:18:41 fact the Prophet Mohammed knows
0:18:42 everything as well say okay fine let's
0:18:46 take this and let's put it to the
0:18:47 standard of the Koran you see the Quran
0:18:50 in Chapter number 46 verse number 8 it
0:18:52 says to the Prophet Muhammad a lost
0:18:54 pantera he says cool murkland
0:18:56 cool Malcolm tuba diamond little city
0:18:58 welcome to edit email file be well
0:19:00 epical he says to the Prophet Muhammad
0:19:04 say I'm not an innovation of the
0:19:06 prophets I'm not something new looking
0:19:07 with a new message and that I was gonna
0:19:10 happen to me and Donald's gonna happen
0:19:11 to you so he said I don't know something
0:19:15 yeah so the Prophet Muhammad has been
0:19:18 told I don't know something in other
0:19:19 words if you're saying they know
0:19:21 everything how comes under the Prophet
0:19:22 Muhammad is not exempt from this
0:19:23 knowledge of everything that how comes
0:19:25 in the Quran it says that he doesn't
0:19:28 know certain things yes alone I can t
0:19:30 say ITA animal so happy madam in the
0:19:32 Quran for example chapter 79 the Quran
0:19:34 the last couple of verses are lost panel
0:19:37 terraces they ask you about the hour one
0:19:39 will it be pegged say who are you who
0:19:42 are you
0:19:43 or Prophet Muhammad SAW said enough to
0:19:46 know this kind of information and this
0:19:48 thing is mentioned lots of things or may
0:19:50 I live now who shadow my neighbor
0:19:52 well I am Barilla it says that we
0:19:55 haven't taught him share which means
0:19:57 Audrey so
0:19:58 there's lots of things the prophet
0:19:59 doesn't know here we're not saying the
0:20:01 Prophet Muhammad SAS Allah that's the
0:20:03 normative position knows everything and
0:20:04 if we did would be we'd have real
0:20:06 trouble justifying that position in the
0:20:10 light of the verses of the Quran but the
0:20:13 question would then remain another
0:20:15 question would remain if we're saying
0:20:17 that the Imams know everything and that
0:20:19 Allah knows everything then does that
0:20:24 mean that the Imams have the same
0:20:25 knowledge is Allah
0:20:26 oh no this is another argument that that
0:20:29 Sunnis before if you say that Allah
0:20:32 knows everything because there's nothing
0:20:33 more than everything to know and that
0:20:35 the Amman know everything that would
0:20:37 suggest that the Imams and Allah had the
0:20:39 same College now the Shia does have a
0:20:41 counter to this just to be clear and rub
0:20:43 this in education video I know it's a
0:20:45 very biased one but obviously I'm
0:20:46 suddenly so I'm going to be very but the
0:20:48 truth is guys I'll be honest with you
0:20:50 bias is always going to be a part of
0:20:51 discussion yeah I'm not gonna lie to you
0:20:54 here and say I'm not biased I'm biased
0:20:55 right but why it doesn't mean that it's
0:20:58 not going to be true why I say because
0:21:00 you can have a bias which is true the
0:21:02 point is if we say that Allah knows
0:21:07 everything and that the amounts know
0:21:08 everything that would suggest that they
0:21:10 have the same knowledge
0:21:11 okay now this Shia would come around and
0:21:14 say look actually that's not true
0:21:16 your conceptualising incorrectly say why
0:21:18 there's a reason why is because if
0:21:22 actually there's something that the
0:21:24 allah has that the imams don't have
0:21:26 which is y equals somebody you know call
0:21:30 allah i had the love the long summer
0:21:32 summit means that everything relies upon
0:21:34 allah and allah doesn't rely upon anyone
0:21:36 whereas the imams all rely upon Allah
0:21:38 and Allah does not rely upon the emails
0:21:41 that's why they say they said this is a
0:21:42 clear difference this is what
0:21:44 differentiates the emails from the
0:21:45 Prophet Muhammad from the e Maps say
0:21:48 fine but that does not negate the shout
0:21:52 then I listen you would then argue the
0:21:54 fact that you are saying that they have
0:21:55 the same knowledge just just because one
0:21:59 is more light than the other or one is
0:22:01 relying on the other than the others not
0:22:03 relying on one does it mean that they
0:22:04 don't have the same knowledge if you
0:22:05 subscribe to this belief so this is the
0:22:08 kind of discussion you'll find between
0:22:10 Sunni and Shia this is the tradition
0:22:12 discussion that's been going on for many
0:22:13 many hundreds of thousand years now
0:22:16 thousand four hundred years or thousand
0:22:17 three hundred whatever it is yes and and
0:22:20 it's important for us as consumers of
0:22:23 the truth to have an understanding of
0:22:25 that and because it is the occasion of
0:22:28 Ashura today is basically the tenth day
0:22:31 of Muharram unless this video has been
0:22:33 recorded or you're watching it some
0:22:34 other time which is very very possible
0:22:36 but it's the tenth day of Muharram
0:22:39 Joshua and so on this occasion I thought
0:22:42 I would make it elucidate on the
0:22:43 differences between so people do not
0:22:47 understand like you know understand what
0:22:48 is exactly the main what what is
0:22:51 differentiating is it really the fact
0:22:52 that it was only the successor of the
0:22:53 professor it's not that it isn't that
0:22:56 these are the main differences between
0:22:58 Sunni and Shiah and I want to add just
0:23:01 one more thing before and end since it
0:23:03 is the since it is basically actual rot
0:23:06 and stuff like that some of my ask what
0:23:09 is a Shura as a suddenly what you're
0:23:11 meant to do is fast fasting natural are
0:23:13 it cleanses your sins for the previous
0:23:16 of the etc there's lots of good things
0:23:17 for you for the Shia is clear that I
0:23:21 think there is evidence historical
0:23:22 evidence that basically saying he died
0:23:25 in a genre on this day and so they they
0:23:28 what they're doing when they cut
0:23:29 themselves and just to be clear to the
0:23:31 people is that she has in particular are
0:23:33 mourning the death of how same or they
0:23:37 believe that this is a martyrdom that
0:23:38 deserves to be a Monde but the question
0:23:41 would then remain who is the ones who
0:23:43 are the ones who killed and for sane and
0:23:46 I want to just read a couple of things
0:23:48 here because I think it is an
0:23:50 interesting thing I'm not saying this
0:23:51 again once against me polemical I'm just
0:23:53 saying this because it's something I've
0:23:55 come across and Moussaoui is one of the
0:23:58 share scholars and he says we'll have
0:24:00 the Hindu so see and he mentions a
0:24:01 couple of verses some verses and sorry
0:24:04 some Arthur Samadhi then says were
0:24:07 heading in the sauce to be in a moment
0:24:09 home but a little Husein haka theone in
0:24:12 home Shia to who a edge daytona valley
0:24:15 mother
0:24:16 Nahum Mill Arizona and Missoula he says
0:24:19 that certainly these evidences with
0:24:21 these things show to us
0:24:24 who are the the true killers of Hossein
0:24:28 and he says that it was our grandfather
0:24:31 or go smoke refer our grandfathers or
0:24:34 our forefathers yeah so there's no
0:24:36 reason to to to basically blame man so
0:24:41 no the Zuni people for that and he said
0:24:44 and someone else his name as a same
0:24:45 awesome I mean he says by am saying line
0:24:49 rock a Sharona elfin brother will be
0:24:53 maharaja la la la jolla you buy a way
0:24:57 after him Fionna pima cotton and this is
0:25:01 in book called again a Shia help is
0:25:05 Manohar the first just and the page no
0:25:10 matter history so the point is there's a
0:25:14 question of who killed him then this is
0:25:15 one ongoing debate I'm just giving you
0:25:17 two sources just to give you a taste of
0:25:19 some competing opinions within she a
0:25:22 school of thought as to who killed
0:25:25 saying the point is he he was martyred
0:25:27 we believe and the thing is I don't want
0:25:29 anyone to think in their mind that
0:25:31 Sunnis don't love a debate as long as
0:25:34 the thing is we have a positive you have
0:25:38 a beautiful love for elevator for Ali
0:25:41 has somehow sane and all of we have
0:25:45 tremendous respect for their i'ma even
0:25:47 that they refer to because there was
0:25:48 talk some of our circle character except
0:25:50 for obviously something that I've just
0:25:51 mentioned or not some of them are not
0:25:53 historical characters but some of them
0:25:54 are historical characters like a Jaffa
0:25:55 Sadiq we believe that we are attitude
0:25:58 towards their members of that ever
0:25:59 positive we think that these were
0:26:00 knowledgeable human beings but we don't
0:26:01 believe that those Imams ever claimed
0:26:03 infallibility or in divine or
0:26:06 supernatural metaphysical kind of thing
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0:26:43 questions and I hope you haven't
0:26:45 offended anybody I just genuinely did
0:26:47 this because I thought there was a need
0:26:49 to educate people I wanted to bring
0:26:54 maybe a more specialist person in she
0:26:56 Azzam to talk about this but then I've
0:27:01 gotten content with a few of them and
0:27:03 told them daily client but Allah Allah
0:27:06 Allen he maybe this is going to be
0:27:10 beneficial to you guys and hopefully
0:27:12 I'll see you soon