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Seminar: "God's Testimony: The Linguistic Miracle of the Quran for Non-Arabs" with Hamza A. Tzortzis (2021-06-16)

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Learn how to articulate the linguistic miracle of the Quran without any knowledge of the Arabic language.

Summary of Seminar: "God's Testimony: The Linguistic Miracle of the Quran for Non-Arabs" with Hamza A. Tzortzis

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00:00:00 - 01:00:00

discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran, which is a challenge that was presented to humanity by the Quran. The seventh century Arabs were the best equipped to challenge the Quran, as they were the most linguistically proficient at that time. goes into detail about the epistemology of testimony, the inference to the best explanation, and the argument for the veracity of the Quran.

*00:00:00 Discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran, which is a challenge that was presented to humanity by the Quran. The seventh century Arabs were the best equipped to challenge the Quran, as they were the most linguistically proficient at that time. goes into detail about the epistemology of testimony, the inference to the best explanation, and the argument for the veracity of the Quran.

  • 00:05:00 The presenter argues that the Quran is linguistic and literary miracle, and that its inimitability is proven by scholars from various disciplines. He goes on to discuss why the Quran is inimitable, and why certain explanations for its inimitability are not plausible. He finishes by discussing why the Quran is from God.
  • 00:10:00 The presenter discusses the epistemology of testimony and the influence of the best explanation, explaining that if someone is sincere and fitra-innate, they will be able to appreciate the truth of the Quran without difficulty. He goes on to explain that the Quran is intended for all people, regardless of their religious beliefs, and urges Muslims to engage non-Muslims in a way that allows for understanding and appreciation of the Quran.
  • *00:15:00 Discusses the epistemology of testimony, which is the foundation of knowledge in the natural world. Testimony is a source of knowledge that is based on other sources of knowledge and is considered fundamental to knowledge. Professor Benjamin McMillan argues that testimony is useful, and Professor Cody argues that testimony is valid.
  • 00:20:00 Hamza A. Tzortzis discusses how testimony is a fundamental source of knowledge and how it can be unreliable. He also discusses how experts rely on testimony to form knowledge in different areas of life.
  • *00:25:00 Discusses the role of testimony in knowledge and how it is not based on empirical evidence but rather on testimonial transmission. He then gives three examples of testimonial evidence.
  • 00:30:00 In this seminar, Hamza Tzortzis discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran for non-Arabs. He points out that although the Quran is based on empirical evidence, it is fundamentally testimonial in nature. Testimonial knowledge is based on someone's assertion that they are speaking from experience, and this is how we know that Japan exists, love exists, and other words in the language.
  • 00:35:00 This seminar discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran for non-Arabs, discussing the difference between testimonial transmission of narratives and knowledge, and how eyewitness testimony is still valid despite its limitations.
  • 00:40:00 The lecturer discusses the concept of inference to the best explanation, which is a way of thinking used in many fields of knowledge. He explains that the best explanation is one that is both plausible and comprehensive, and that it is important to consider all the data when assessing a hypothesis. Finally, the lecturer reads from his book on the topic.
  • 00:45:00 The seminar discusses how the Quran presents a linguistic and literary challenge to humanity. It argues that this challenge necessitates that no one be able to imitate the Quran's linguistic and literary features.
  • 00:50:00 The seminar discusses how the Quran challenges the masters of the Arabic language. The seventh century Arabs were the best equipped to challenge the Quran because they reached the peak of eloquence and rhetoric.
  • *00:55:00 Discusses the importance of poetry in Arab culture, highlighting the linguistic and literary abilities of the seventh century Arabs. Professor Hussein Abdullah argues that the Arabs at the time had reached a linguistic peak in terms of competence in sciences, rhetoric, and poetry, but that this was not reflected in their ability to imitate the Quran. The social and political circumstances of the time were central to the Quranic message and posed a challenge to the meccan leadership, which was being challenged by the Quran. Islam succeeded in spreading due to the efforts of its early followers, who were unable to meet the Quranic challenge.

01:00:00 - 01:50:00

discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran and how it provides evidence that the Quran is from a divine source. goes over various topics related to the Quran's linguistic miracle and how it is inimitable by any other text. He urges Muslims to be committed to the goodness and guidance of all people and to live their lives based on this state of being.

01:00:00 The presenter discusses the various scholars who have testified to the Quran's inimitability. He also discusses how this undermines the Quranic claim to be the most eminent literary work of mankind.

  • 01:05:00 The seminar discusses the criticism of al-muttaqi al-bin-Muhammad bin al-Qasim al-Muttanabbi, who concludes that moon poetry is often poorly written and lacks originality. He also argues that the Quran is inimitable, and that scholars who say otherwise must assume absurd conclusions.
  • *01:10:00 Discusses how the Qur'an has a variety of stylistic shifts that enhance its communicative effect. He also points out that these shifts are not linguistically ugly but rather part of the dynamic nature of the text.
  • 01:15:00 The seminar discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran, which is inimitable by any other text. The six premises of the argument for the Quran's inimitability are established, and it is concluded that the Quran could not have been produced by any of the three possible linguistic explanations: an Arab, a non-Arab, or Muhammad himself. The conclusion is that the Quran could only have come from God.
  • 01:20:00 The seminar discusses how the quran could not have come from an Arab due to the linguistic environment at the time and how a non-arab could not produce it. The linguistics evidence supports that it came from a prophet, Muhammad.
  • 01:25:00 The seminar discusses how the Quran is a literary masterpiece and with all literary masterpieces, there is careful amendment, revision, and addition. The psycholinguistic content of the Quran reveals it is from a divine voice. Trying to conclude that the Prophet was a genius based on this would be unfounded, as literary geniuses edit, amend, and improve their work.
  • 01:30:00 The seminar discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran and how it cannot be produced by non-Arabs or Muhammad. It concludes that the best explanation is that the Quran came from Allah.
  • *01:35:00 Discusses the linguistic features of the Quran and how they are unique and inimitable. It argues that the Quran was authored by an Arab and non-arab, Muhammad, considering all the facts that have been discussed. God is the best explanation for the Quran's inimitability.
  • 01:40:00 The seminar discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran for non-Arabs, citing a linguistic study that concludes the hadith language is very different from the Arabic language, and that the Quran was revealed many verses for specific time and place, yet it has come together in a coherent literary structure.
  • 01:45:00 Hamza A. Tzortzis discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran, which is apparent when considering the timing of its revelation and the arrangements of its passages. He states that this phenomenon is "impossible" if the Quran were the work of a human being, and points to the arrangement of the Quran as evidence of its divine source.
  • *01:50:00 Discusses the linguistic miracle of the Quran, which is based on first principles and evidences that are not going to change. He provides an overview of the seminar, which discusses various topics related to the Quran's linguistic miracle. concludes the seminar by urging Muslims to be committed to the goodness and guidance of all people, and to live their lives based on this state of being.

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0:00:15 brothers
0:00:16 and sisters and friends and welcome to
0:00:19 today's live academic seminar
0:00:24 entitled god's testimony
0:00:27 so what are we going to be talking about
0:00:29 today well essentially my main objective
0:00:32 is for you to be able to articulate the
0:00:35 linguistic miracle of the quran
0:00:38 without any knowledge of the arabic
0:00:40 language okay
0:00:42 because when one tries to show the
0:00:44 veracity of the quran
0:00:46 using the linguistic miracle there is a
0:00:49 presupposition
0:00:50 there is an assumption and that
0:00:52 assumption is
0:00:54 that one has access to the linguistic
0:00:57 and literary
0:00:58 tools to appreciate the unique
0:01:02 literary form or the unique linguistic
0:01:05 genre
0:01:06 or the peak of eloquence or the
0:01:11 multiple frequency of
0:01:14 rhetorical devices of the quran
0:01:17 and that assumption is a problematic
0:01:20 assumption
0:01:20 especially when you're giving da'awa
0:01:23 when you're
0:01:24 sharing islam academically and
0:01:26 intellectually
0:01:27 with an audience that doesn't know
0:01:29 arabic and if they do know arabic they
0:01:31 frankly may not have the tools
0:01:34 to be able to understand the
0:01:37 intricacies concerning the linguistic
0:01:40 and literary
0:01:41 features of the quranic discourse and
0:01:44 that's why it's extremely
0:01:45 important brothers and sisters for us to
0:01:48 be able to
0:01:50 speak about this argument but to do so
0:01:52 in a way
0:01:55 that we can con or at least we can
0:01:59 show the veracity of the quran without
0:02:02 the person requiring
0:02:04 any knowledge of the arabic language in
0:02:07 actual
0:02:08 fact it doesn't even require you to have
0:02:11 any knowledge of the arabic language and
0:02:12 i think this argument
0:02:14 is a powerful argument if one truly
0:02:16 understands it
0:02:17 and yes today it's going to be
0:02:19 conceptually heavy it's going to be what
0:02:21 you call
0:02:22 theo philosophically heavy
0:02:25 because we're going to be talking about
0:02:27 very important epistemological
0:02:30 stuff epistemological realities such as
0:02:33 the fundamental and indispensable nature
0:02:37 of testimony so we're going to unpack
0:02:40 the epistemology of testimony
0:02:42 and we're also going to be talking about
0:02:44 the inference to the best explanation
0:02:47 and when we when we understand
0:02:50 those areas carefully and we understand
0:02:53 them properly
0:02:54 when we apply them to the quran we'll be
0:02:58 able to make
0:02:59 the best inference the most rational
0:03:01 inference
0:03:02 which is that the quran could could have
0:03:05 only come from
0:03:06 allah subhanahu wa ta'ala but in order
0:03:08 for you to understand this properly you
0:03:10 have to take this intellectual journey
0:03:12 with me
0:03:13 and let's do it insha allah so
0:03:18 i got some slides here so what we're
0:03:21 going to be covering today
0:03:23 is really the epistemology of testimony
0:03:26 as i
0:03:27 just discussed and i think this is going
0:03:28 to be quite a paradigm shift for many of
0:03:31 you
0:03:31 is going to make you see knowledge in a
0:03:33 totally different way
0:03:34 we're going to talk about the inference
0:03:36 to the best explanation
0:03:38 and we're going to articulate an
0:03:41 argument for the veracity of the quran
0:03:43 we're going to articulate an argument
0:03:45 for why the quran is from allah in
0:03:48 using using the epistemology of
0:03:50 testimony and the inference to the best
0:03:52 explanation and we're going to apply it
0:03:55 to the inimitability of the quran and
0:03:58 don't worry if you don't know what
0:03:59 inimitability is we're going to explain
0:04:01 all of these key terms and concepts
0:04:03 um today inshallah so this is the
0:04:07 structure of the argument this is the
0:04:09 summary and we're going to unpack each
0:04:11 premise so don't worry if you don't know
0:04:13 what each premise means
0:04:14 don't worry if you don't believe that
0:04:16 the conclusion follows in any kind of
0:04:18 logical way
0:04:19 don't worry if you don't know certain
0:04:20 key terms such as you know what does
0:04:22 counter scholarly testimonies mean
0:04:25 what does inimitable mean what does
0:04:29 an arab mean i'm kidding you get the
0:04:31 point so if you don't know any
0:04:32 terminology don't worry my job today is
0:04:34 to unpack all of this for you
0:04:36 so don't be scared when i'm talking
0:04:37 about the argument now and summarizing
0:04:39 it and giving you the structure
0:04:41 because the job of myself insha'allah is
0:04:44 to unpack everything for you today
0:04:45 so this is the structure of the argument
0:04:48 number one
0:04:49 the quran presents a literary and
0:04:52 linguistic challenge to humanity
0:04:54 number two the seventh century arabs
0:04:57 were best
0:04:57 placed to challenge the quran number
0:05:00 three
0:05:01 the seventh century arabs failed to do
0:05:03 so number four
0:05:05 scholars have testified to the quran's
0:05:07 inimitability
0:05:09 number five counter scholarly
0:05:11 testimonies are not plausible
0:05:14 as they have to reject the established
0:05:16 background information
0:05:18 and what we mean by counter scholarly
0:05:20 testimonies
0:05:21 is some scholars some orientalists that
0:05:23 do not testify
0:05:25 to the inimitability of the quran
0:05:28 number six therefore from premise one to
0:05:31 five
0:05:32 the quran is inimitable and then we
0:05:34 continue
0:05:35 number seven the possible explanations
0:05:38 for the quran
0:05:39 and inimitability are authorship by an
0:05:41 arab
0:05:42 a non-arab muhammad salim or god
0:05:47 number eight it could not have been
0:05:48 produced by an arab
0:05:50 and non-arab or muhammad sallam
0:05:54 therefore the best explanation is that
0:05:56 it is from god
0:05:57 now what's very important to understand
0:05:59 here is each of these premises when we
0:06:01 unpack them
0:06:03 you have to understand brothers and
0:06:05 sisters that there's going to be
0:06:07 certain academic and popular objections
0:06:10 and we're going to be dealing with these
0:06:11 inshallah so don't worry we're here for
0:06:13 you today and ishala we're going to
0:06:14 unpack all of this
0:06:15 just be patient and patience is
0:06:17 extremely important when we're trying to
0:06:19 learn a new argument
0:06:20 and learn certain concepts or key ideas
0:06:24 and save your questions for the end i
0:06:26 know some questions are coming up
0:06:27 now but save it for the end and
0:06:30 inshallah i will be addressing your
0:06:31 questions
0:06:33 now before we unpack this further i
0:06:36 would like to say
0:06:37 that this argument has been referenced
0:06:40 it's been referenced
0:06:41 in the book that you can see here i've
0:06:43 got it with me i do advise you to buy it
0:06:46 it was translated and annotated
0:06:48 extensively by
0:06:49 our beloved brother and friend dr
0:06:51 safaruk chaudhary
0:06:53 it's a treatise on disputation and
0:06:55 argumentation
0:06:56 and he uses this argument that we've
0:06:58 developed alhamdulillah that actually
0:07:01 was taken from my book the divine
0:07:03 reality and in his book on page 74 and
0:07:06 75
0:07:07 he referenced this argument as a
0:07:10 argument with regards to using inference
0:07:13 to the best explanation
0:07:16 or rather he uses this argument to show
0:07:19 an example of let me just go through the
0:07:21 book right now just to be sure
0:07:23 he's given an example of
0:07:27 what is he giving an example of
0:07:32 yes inference to the best explanation i
0:07:35 believe that's what he's using
0:07:36 this as an example of
0:07:40 inshallah yes so there you go i just
0:07:44 wanted to
0:07:44 put that in there because you know an
0:07:46 established academic like doctor
0:07:47 suffered chowdhury
0:07:48 has referenced this argument and um yes
0:07:51 this is an argument from authority no
0:07:53 problem
0:07:54 but it's just there just to make you
0:07:55 understand that we're not just picking
0:07:56 this out from thin
0:07:57 air it has been reviewed to a certain
0:07:59 degree in actual fact
0:08:01 dr safruk chowdhury he
0:08:04 he actually helped me when i wrote an
0:08:06 essay the essay
0:08:07 or the chapter in my book but originally
0:08:10 was an essay
0:08:11 he actually helped me extensively when i
0:08:13 was dealing with
0:08:14 the contention with regards to which
0:08:17 we're going to discuss in a few moments
0:08:19 if you don't know what that's about
0:08:19 don't worry
0:08:20 so may allah bless him and grant him the
0:08:22 best in this life and
0:08:24 the life to come i mean so let's
0:08:26 continue
0:08:28 now the first thing we under we have to
0:08:30 understand is why are we articulating
0:08:31 this argument because
0:08:33 in the world when we try to
0:08:34 intellectually articulate a positive
0:08:36 case for islam
0:08:38 and in this case the quran we usually
0:08:40 say the quran is a linguistic and
0:08:42 literary miracle you know we reference
0:08:44 it in our pamphlets and our books and so
0:08:45 on and so forth
0:08:46 and we even may even have discussions
0:08:48 using arabic and using
0:08:50 examples of eloquence from the quran
0:08:52 using examples of
0:08:54 of a unique genre literature genre
0:08:57 using examples of a unique literature
0:08:59 reform using examples
0:09:01 of a supernatural
0:09:04 frequency of rhetorical devices and so
0:09:06 on and so forth
0:09:07 but all of this all of this is premised
0:09:10 on the idea that we have the tools to
0:09:12 access
0:09:13 the kind of linguistic literary arabic
0:09:16 technical stuff that we're talking about
0:09:18 right
0:09:18 like you know when we talk about things
0:09:20 like ill-tifact which is
0:09:22 you know grammatical shift or
0:09:24 referencing shifting
0:09:25 you know we have to actually know what
0:09:27 that's about and how it's used in a way
0:09:29 to enhance
0:09:31 the communicative effect of
0:09:34 the the the meaning portrayed by the
0:09:37 book of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala but
0:09:38 you need knowledge of that and this is
0:09:40 very deep it's a science
0:09:42 in in in arabic in classical arabic
0:09:45 belera rhetoric eloquence it's a deep
0:09:48 science and
0:09:49 even arabs themselves don't have the
0:09:51 tools to understand this
0:09:52 so it's premised on the fact that you
0:09:54 know you have the tools or the person
0:09:57 you're talking to has the tools to even
0:09:59 understand what you're saying even if
0:10:00 they don't have the tools and they agree
0:10:02 with you
0:10:03 they have to trust you right they have
0:10:05 to actually
0:10:06 trust you that what you're saying is
0:10:07 true that this is the nature of the
0:10:09 arabic language this is how the arabic
0:10:11 language works
0:10:12 this is how the quran produces a
0:10:14 supernatural eloquence for example they
0:10:16 would have to actually believe
0:10:18 you not based on believe what you're
0:10:20 saying not based on for example any
0:10:22 technical expertise that they have
0:10:24 but just by virtue of the fact that they
0:10:25 just trusted you
0:10:27 so it's very important that we in the
0:10:29 hour that we create arguments that are
0:10:31 timeless
0:10:32 that absorbs if you like or transcends
0:10:35 any of the kind of key contentions
0:10:37 and key objections that may come today
0:10:40 or even tomorrow so you know when we say
0:10:44 the quran has supernatural eloquence the
0:10:46 quran's arabic is inimitable the quran
0:10:48 is the best expression of the arabic
0:10:50 language
0:10:50 well that is all premised on what an
0:10:53 assumption and that assumption is
0:10:55 do you know arabic right do you know
0:10:58 classical arabic
0:10:59 do you have the tools at your disposal
0:11:01 to understand what you're saying
0:11:02 or does the person that you're talking
0:11:04 to have the tools at their disposal
0:11:06 to understand what they're saying and
0:11:09 this is very very critical because this
0:11:11 assumption is actually assumption that
0:11:13 defeats the argument
0:11:15 because if you don't have the tools and
0:11:17 they don't have the tools which is
0:11:18 usually the case especially in the
0:11:20 english
0:11:20 western context then well you know
0:11:24 they just have to trust you but if they
0:11:26 have to trust you then it doesn't really
0:11:28 matter what you say
0:11:29 right so this is why it's very important
0:11:31 for us to
0:11:32 future proof the dollar for us to be
0:11:34 able to transcend some of the objections
0:11:36 that come up and first have more
0:11:38 robust robust arguments for the book of
0:11:41 allah
0:11:44 now so the background to this argument
0:11:46 is extremely important the concept that
0:11:48 we're going to be talking about now
0:11:49 before we formulate the argument before
0:11:51 we unpack the premises
0:11:53 is the epistemology of testimony and the
0:11:55 inference to the best explanation
0:11:56 however i really want to mention
0:11:58 something and brothers and sisters
0:11:59 please take this very seriously please
0:12:01 take it very seriously
0:12:03 the book of allah for me
0:12:07 the book of allah if someone is sincere
0:12:10 and they read the book of
0:12:12 allah that is enough i believe that
0:12:15 because the articulation of who allah is
0:12:19 the tawheed of allah the divine oneness
0:12:22 of allah
0:12:23 the oneness of his divinity the wonders
0:12:25 of his creative power the oneness of his
0:12:27 names and attributes
0:12:28 as articulated and expressed in the
0:12:30 quran
0:12:31 if one is sincere if one's fitra innate
0:12:35 disposition is not clouded
0:12:37 they will be able to appreciate the
0:12:40 truth of the quran
0:12:41 without a doubt they need to engage with
0:12:43 the quran we
0:12:44 and people and non-muslims need to
0:12:46 engage with the quran
0:12:48 in a way that is phenomenological
0:12:52 phenomenological meaning have an
0:12:54 experience with the book of allah
0:12:56 subhanallah
0:12:56 ta'ala read the meaning
0:13:00 read the meaning when when we understand
0:13:03 the virtues of reciting the quran
0:13:05 you have to understand that those
0:13:06 virtues were just were describing the
0:13:10 arabs
0:13:10 yani what i'm trying to say here is it
0:13:12 was talking to
0:13:13 the the primary audience which was the
0:13:16 sahaba they already knew arabic so
0:13:18 when we were talking about the virtues
0:13:20 or when the process was talking about
0:13:22 talking about the virtues of reciting
0:13:23 the quran
0:13:24 it was already assumed that they're
0:13:26 going to understand what they recite
0:13:28 so it's very important that we do tata
0:13:30 even allah says in the quran
0:13:34 on their hearts so from this perspective
0:13:36 we could mirror the meaning and the more
0:13:39 we do the more pondering we do our
0:13:40 hearts become unlocked
0:13:42 to receive the guidance and mercy of
0:13:44 allah
0:13:45 this is why brothers and sisters do not
0:13:48 underestimate the power of getting
0:13:50 people just to reflect on the quran
0:13:52 for yourself as a muslim but also
0:13:53 non-muslims if they are sincere
0:13:56 the fitra is not clouded the innate
0:13:58 disposition is not is not
0:13:59 is not clouded then what has to then
0:14:03 and they engage with the quran and they
0:14:04 do they ponder over the quran
0:14:06 inshallah this would be enough for them
0:14:08 because the quran really its main
0:14:10 message
0:14:10 was to announce allah to humanity that
0:14:12 he is worthy of worship
0:14:14 that he is worthy to be known to be
0:14:17 loved
0:14:18 to be obeyed and and to and for us to
0:14:21 direct
0:14:21 all of our internal and external acts of
0:14:24 worship
0:14:25 to allah alone so this is very important
0:14:28 i wanted to mention this because i don't
0:14:29 want i don't
0:14:30 want to you know create a narrative
0:14:32 where the quran has to be proven
0:14:34 philosophically in this way all the time
0:14:36 no not at all
0:14:37 please understand what i've just said so
0:14:40 let's go back to the essential
0:14:42 philosophical conceptual background that
0:14:45 we need to understand which is the
0:14:47 epistemology of testimony and the
0:14:48 influence of the best explanation
0:14:50 in actual fact these things are going to
0:14:52 be amazing tools for you
0:14:53 that you can apply in your intellectual
0:14:56 journey when you're dealing with
0:14:57 with other areas of knowledge especially
0:14:59 dealing with atheists and philosophical
0:15:01 naturalists
0:15:02 and all of these people who claim to
0:15:03 have some kind of truth claims which we
0:15:05 know
0:15:05 are actually false because their
0:15:07 understanding of philosophy and even
0:15:09 theo philosophy and theology
0:15:11 is extremely weak and is not founded on
0:15:14 anything from that perspective so let's
0:15:17 and that's why it's very important these
0:15:18 concepts are going to transcend today's
0:15:20 discussion
0:15:22 so the first thing we need to understand
0:15:23 is about testimony the epistemology of
0:15:26 testimony now
0:15:28 testimony is an indispensable and
0:15:30 fundamental source of knowledge okay
0:15:33 and when it comes to the epistemology of
0:15:35 testimony
0:15:36 which is really questioning
0:15:39 how does testimony yield evidence
0:15:43 is testimonial knowledge based on other
0:15:46 sources of knowledge
0:15:47 is testimony fundamental how do we
0:15:51 ensure that testimony
0:15:54 actually provides
0:15:57 knowledge what kind of other concepts or
0:16:01 ideas
0:16:02 or philosophical criteria must we have
0:16:05 in order to assess if testimony
0:16:09 constitutes knowledge if one's testimony
0:16:11 actually constitutes knowledge
0:16:13 and these are the kind of questions that
0:16:15 the the epistemologists of test
0:16:17 testimony if you like the
0:16:18 epistemologists those who study
0:16:20 knowledge
0:16:21 they ask these questions and what's very
0:16:24 interesting is
0:16:25 that in even western philosophy
0:16:28 testimony is actually one of the sources
0:16:30 of knowledge
0:16:32 and it's this is not controversial and
0:16:35 in the past 30 or 40 years has been a
0:16:37 revival
0:16:38 in the kind of epistemological
0:16:41 assessment
0:16:42 of testimony as a fundamental and
0:16:45 essential source of knowledge
0:16:46 now many people because we live in this
0:16:48 kind of you know metaphysical
0:16:50 naturalistic world and we live in the
0:16:51 age of science we're like testimony what
0:16:53 on earth is that about
0:16:54 i'm not going to just trust what
0:16:56 somebody says now that is a very shallow
0:16:58 response and when we discuss further
0:17:00 today you're going to really understand
0:17:01 that most of your knowledge and my
0:17:02 knowledge and even most of
0:17:04 the knowledge of a scientist is actually
0:17:06 not empirically founded
0:17:07 from the point of view that they
0:17:08 actually have to believe it believe in
0:17:10 it to be true
0:17:11 by virtue of testimonial transmission
0:17:14 because when you read a science book
0:17:15 you haven't done the experiment yourself
0:17:17 they've done it and they've testified
0:17:19 that they've done it
0:17:20 and you believe it no by virtue of you
0:17:21 doing the experiment but you believe it
0:17:23 by virtue of the testimony which is
0:17:25 in the ink and the paper of the
0:17:28 scientific book that you're actually
0:17:29 reading
0:17:31 so let's continue with this idea of
0:17:33 testimony so
0:17:34 professor benjamin mcmillan i think is
0:17:36 an associate professor
0:17:38 he provides a very beautiful summary of
0:17:40 testimonial knowledge
0:17:42 he says here are a few things that i
0:17:44 know
0:17:45 i know that the copperhead is the most
0:17:47 common venomous snake in the greater
0:17:49 houston area i know that napoleon lost
0:17:52 the battle of waterloo
0:17:54 i know that as i write the average price
0:17:56 for gasoline in the us
0:17:57 is 4.10 cents per gallon
0:18:00 all of these things i know on the basis
0:18:03 of what epistemologists call
0:18:05 testimony on the basis of being told of
0:18:07 them
0:18:08 by another person or group of persons
0:18:10 and a lot of the knowledge that we have
0:18:12 is actually
0:18:13 testimonial transmission and this is not
0:18:16 controversial at all
0:18:18 yes there are different criteria and
0:18:20 there's a there's a discussion
0:18:22 in the academic literature on what
0:18:24 constitutes valid
0:18:26 testimonial knowledge but that's not
0:18:28 really our discussion today our
0:18:29 discussion is to show that testimony
0:18:31 is a fundamental and valid source of
0:18:34 knowledge
0:18:34 once we understand this clearly then
0:18:36 we're able to move on
0:18:38 and we're able to understand this
0:18:39 argument properly insha allah
0:18:42 so as i said there's a discussion on
0:18:45 the validity of testimony and i'm going
0:18:47 to discuss briefly about this but the
0:18:49 first thing i want to really
0:18:51 really get you to understand is that
0:18:54 testimony is fundamental
0:18:55 so there was a discussion obviously a
0:18:58 lot of these type of discussions
0:18:59 are you know you could trace them back
0:19:01 to the scottish skeptic david hume
0:19:04 and he spoke about testimony and he
0:19:06 basically said that testimony is useful
0:19:09 so he didn't dismiss it he understood
0:19:12 its instrumental value
0:19:14 we can't dispense away with testimony
0:19:17 and he said testimony is very important
0:19:19 but we only accept testimonial
0:19:21 transmission we only accept it as
0:19:23 knowledge
0:19:24 if it's in line with our collective
0:19:27 experiences
0:19:28 now professor cody many hundred years
0:19:30 later he writes the book
0:19:32 uh testimony i think is called a
0:19:33 philosophical discussion of
0:19:36 philosophical study he and it was
0:19:38 published in 1991 i believe and it was a
0:19:40 it was a it was a landmark book
0:19:42 uh with regards to the discussions and
0:19:44 epistemology of testimony
0:19:46 he basically argues against david hume
0:19:48 he says hold on a second david hume
0:19:50 obviously he doesn't use those words but
0:19:51 i'm just
0:19:52 kind of uh trying to eloquently
0:19:54 summarize his point
0:19:55 he says hold on a second david hume
0:19:58 you agree that testimony is instrumental
0:20:01 you agree that it's very useful and
0:20:04 maybe necessary so
0:20:06 but you say we only accept it as a valid
0:20:08 form of knowledge if it's in line with
0:20:09 our collective experiences
0:20:11 so he turns the table and says how do
0:20:14 you know
0:20:15 what our collective experiences are
0:20:18 you haven't experienced other people's
0:20:20 experiences you haven't seen you haven't
0:20:22 done you haven't experienced the
0:20:24 experiences you haven't done the
0:20:26 scientific date or the empirical stuff
0:20:28 that they have done you have to
0:20:31 find out through their testimonial
0:20:33 transmission
0:20:34 so to understand collective experiences
0:20:37 you have to rely on testimony
0:20:39 which shows the fundamental nature of
0:20:41 testimony it's not just instrumental it
0:20:43 is fundamental
0:20:44 and this is a powerful argument he i
0:20:46 think he refutes david hume and
0:20:49 what's amazing here brothers and sisters
0:20:51 is now if someone says
0:20:53 or if david hume retorts and says well i
0:20:56 could just rely on my own experiences
0:20:58 ha but if you were to rely just on your
0:21:00 own experiences you won't have any
0:21:02 knowledge especially when you're talking
0:21:04 about today's type of knowledge in the
0:21:05 sciences
0:21:06 and in philosophy in mathematics you
0:21:09 can't do everything yourself you have to
0:21:11 rely
0:21:11 on other people's research and
0:21:13 investigation
0:21:14 right so i think professor cody really
0:21:18 shows
0:21:19 that testimony is a fundamental
0:21:23 and indispensable source of knowledge
0:21:25 now there is a discussion on what
0:21:27 constitutes
0:21:28 you know valid testimonial knowledge
0:21:31 because some testimony can be absolutely
0:21:32 wrong of course you know as you know you
0:21:34 know when
0:21:35 when a politician says something we're
0:21:37 not going to believe him just by virtue
0:21:38 of his testimony of course not because
0:21:40 usually politicians unfortunately
0:21:42 they lie so you know just because
0:21:45 someone's testimony is is usually not
0:21:49 true
0:21:49 or it's not founded on on reality
0:21:52 it doesn't mean that we throw the baby
0:21:54 out with the bath bomb because if we did
0:21:55 that with all sources of knowledge you
0:21:56 won't have any knowledge at all because
0:21:58 even experience and empirical data
0:22:00 we could misunderstand it or we could
0:22:02 have illusions for example
0:22:04 or it could be you know theory laden we
0:22:06 could presuppose
0:22:08 an idea onto the experience and it makes
0:22:12 us look at the experience in a way
0:22:13 that's not a representation of reality
0:22:15 so all sorts of knowledge have those
0:22:17 problems anyways you can't throw the
0:22:18 baby out with a bath or otherwise you'll
0:22:20 have no knowledge at all
0:22:21 so there hasn't been a discussion on the
0:22:24 kind of validity
0:22:25 of what kind of philosophical criteria
0:22:28 you have
0:22:29 uh in order to that you need in order to
0:22:33 understand what is valid testimonial
0:22:35 knowledge so dr elizabeth fricker she
0:22:37 makes a really good point
0:22:38 she says look we have to rely on experts
0:22:41 our limitations
0:22:43 you know we have cognitive limitations
0:22:45 epistemic limitations
0:22:47 we can't know everything we have to rely
0:22:50 on the authority of others and this is
0:22:52 quite interesting because when i had my
0:22:53 kind of
0:22:54 you know famous debate many years ago
0:22:56 with
0:22:57 professor lawrence krauss towards the
0:22:58 end we had a discussion
0:23:00 on this issue and i tried to expose that
0:23:02 he had an empirical presupposition
0:23:04 and that empirical presupposition was
0:23:06 what it was you know
0:23:08 all knowledge comes from experience and
0:23:10 i said this is not true
0:23:11 right this is this is a presupposition
0:23:13 that's unfounded and he said well what
0:23:15 other sources of knowledge
0:23:16 do you have and i said testimony then he
0:23:17 almost snicked at me and i said well and
0:23:19 he said i just do the science and i said
0:23:21 well do
0:23:22 this science and i said do you believe
0:23:25 in evolution
0:23:26 he said yes and i said have you done all
0:23:28 the science have you done all the
0:23:28 experiments yourself
0:23:30 he said no people started to laugh
0:23:32 because they exposed what
0:23:33 it exposed the reality that this vast
0:23:36 area of knowledge in science
0:23:37 you can't do everything yourself even if
0:23:41 the experiments are repeatable
0:23:44 that's still testimonial evidence
0:23:45 because you have to believe they're
0:23:46 repeatable by virtue of them saying it's
0:23:48 repeatable
0:23:49 you'll have to repeat yourself to
0:23:51 actually know it's repeatable but you
0:23:52 can't it's too much stuff going on in
0:23:54 this domain of knowledge
0:23:55 and this is why even the berkeley
0:23:57 website when it discusses science
0:23:59 it actually talks about the say-so or
0:24:01 the authority of
0:24:02 the the body of scientists other other
0:24:05 scientists there's a body of knowledge
0:24:07 going on
0:24:07 and you can only access that body of
0:24:09 knowledge by virtue of what by virtue of
0:24:12 the testimonial transmission not by
0:24:13 virtue of you actually doing that
0:24:15 science yourself
0:24:16 because it's practically impossible and
0:24:18 even epistemologically impossible
0:24:20 for you to do all the experiments in the
0:24:21 research yourself so testimony is so
0:24:24 significant
0:24:25 even in science pick up any science book
0:24:27 all the scientific facts that you have
0:24:29 just think about brothers and sisters
0:24:30 the scientific facts that you have
0:24:32 most of them are based on testimony not
0:24:34 empirical data
0:24:36 yes the book that you read claims it
0:24:38 came from research it came from
0:24:40 empirical data
0:24:41 but did you do it yourself no
0:24:44 you had to actually just believe the say
0:24:47 so
0:24:48 of the person who basically
0:24:51 uh wrote the book
0:24:54 now moving on from this you have other
0:24:56 discussions in the epistemology of
0:24:58 testimony by the way epistemology
0:25:00 epistemology for those who don't know
0:25:02 means
0:25:02 actually the study of knowledge so the
0:25:05 the epistemologist
0:25:06 someone who studies knowledge they
0:25:09 actually talk about
0:25:10 trust as you know a concern when it
0:25:13 comes to
0:25:14 valid testimonial knowledge and for
0:25:16 example professor
0:25:18 keith lehrer he basically discusses this
0:25:21 and he says that you know in order for
0:25:23 testimonial knowledge to be
0:25:24 valid we have to be trustworthy in our
0:25:28 assessments of the trustworthiness of
0:25:30 others allahu akbar what am i talking
0:25:32 about here what does this sound like to
0:25:33 you
0:25:34 they're talking about this what in 2006
0:25:38 we've been talking about this for over
0:25:39 1400 years right also
0:25:41 because this is actually articulating
0:25:43 maybe the philosophical basis for what
0:25:47 hadith the science of hadith right
0:25:49 because in the science of hadith
0:25:51 you know we we actually have developed
0:25:55 philosophical theo philosophical
0:25:56 criteria to understand if someone in the
0:25:58 in the snod which is the chain of
0:26:00 transmission if they're trustworthy or
0:26:02 not
0:26:02 what constitutes their trustworthiness
0:26:05 right
0:26:06 and so on and so forth so it's very
0:26:07 interesting that in 2006 because it's
0:26:09 been taken from
0:26:10 uh one of the essays from professor
0:26:12 keith lehrer i think he's an amaretto's
0:26:13 professor
0:26:14 and he talks about that we have to be
0:26:16 trustworthy in our assessments of the
0:26:18 trustworthiness of others
0:26:20 and also the person providing that
0:26:22 testimonial knowledge has to be
0:26:23 trustworthy
0:26:24 too sounds like animal hadith to me the
0:26:26 science of
0:26:27 prophetic narrations to me also
0:26:30 professor benjamin mcmilla he talks
0:26:32 about the right to referral
0:26:34 meaning that you know when someone is
0:26:36 expressing a test
0:26:37 testimonial knowledge he's his his he or
0:26:41 she
0:26:41 is is giving testimony to some knowledge
0:26:44 then there must there must be a right to
0:26:46 refer or meaning that the one who's
0:26:47 giving the testimonial transmission
0:26:49 they have to accept the responsibility
0:26:51 that someone could refer back to them
0:26:52 and say
0:26:53 let me question you further and the
0:26:55 audience themselves they have to accept
0:26:57 also a kind of epistemic responsibility
0:26:59 of responsibility to dr knowledge
0:27:02 in order to to question the person that
0:27:04 is
0:27:05 actually providing that testimonial
0:27:07 knowledge to say hey what do you mean by
0:27:08 that actually do you have evidence for
0:27:10 this can you explain this further
0:27:12 and i think that's what benjamin mcmilla
0:27:13 was actually trying to say which is very
0:27:16 interesting
0:27:16 now there's much more concerning the
0:27:19 testimony
0:27:20 of knowledge much much more it's not the
0:27:22 role of the webinar or the seminar today
0:27:25 to actually unpack this i've just given
0:27:27 you a little taster to understand
0:27:28 that there is a philosophical discussion
0:27:31 on
0:27:31 on what constitutes valid testimonial
0:27:34 knowledge
0:27:35 but our main issue here today is to show
0:27:36 that testimony is fundamental it's a
0:27:38 fundamental
0:27:39 and indispensable source of knowledge
0:27:42 brothers
0:27:43 and sisters now let me unpack this
0:27:46 further i want to give you three
0:27:48 key examples i think you're gonna love
0:27:49 this okay every time i do this when i
0:27:51 sit at universities
0:27:52 when i talk to students even academics
0:27:55 it's it's it's a bit of a laugh actually
0:27:56 because they
0:27:57 they realize that some key key aspects
0:28:00 of knowledge
0:28:01 is not based on on science it's based on
0:28:04 testimonial transmission so let me ask
0:28:06 you a question
0:28:07 is the world flat by the way before you
0:28:10 go crazy i don't believe the world is
0:28:12 flat okay i believe it's
0:28:13 it's spherical all right but let me ask
0:28:16 you a question is the word flat now many
0:28:18 of you may say of course it's not flat
0:28:20 it's spherical now let me ask you
0:28:22 another question
0:28:24 do you have any what's your proof
0:28:27 many of you may say well we have many
0:28:29 pictures that show that the world is
0:28:31 spherical
0:28:33 we have you know it says in the science
0:28:36 books
0:28:37 okay but those two answers
0:28:40 or those pieces of so-called evidence
0:28:42 they're not empirical
0:28:44 they're testimonial because a book is a
0:28:46 testimonial transmission
0:28:48 it's telling you you have to believe
0:28:50 what it says and the photographs
0:28:53 they're not empirical the testimonial
0:28:54 why yes you see an image it's empirical
0:28:57 but fundamentally this testimonial why
0:29:00 i tell you why because when someone
0:29:02 takes a picture of earth they have to
0:29:04 say to you
0:29:05 this is earth so you take
0:29:08 their testimony that this is earth and
0:29:09 you apply it to the picture
0:29:12 i don't care if there's millions of them
0:29:13 i don't care if there's billions of
0:29:14 those pictures on google the point is
0:29:16 fundamentally that evidence that the
0:29:20 world is
0:29:20 round or spherical by virtue of a
0:29:22 picture is not empirical
0:29:24 it's actually testimonial so
0:29:27 what are you guys going to say now many
0:29:29 of you haven't done
0:29:30 the mathematics many of you haven't you
0:29:33 know
0:29:33 done much of the science yourself you
0:29:35 know many of you haven't
0:29:36 gone in a rocket and actually launched
0:29:39 yourself
0:29:40 and actually seen in space the spherical
0:29:43 nature of the earth you haven't done
0:29:44 that yes other people have done that but
0:29:46 you haven't done that so you have to
0:29:47 believe what they said even if they took
0:29:49 a video of it
0:29:50 you still have to believe that that is
0:29:51 earth because one point in time when you
0:29:53 were developing as a child or a young
0:29:55 adult or whatever
0:29:56 they had to basically say this is earth
0:29:58 so that's a testimonial transmission of
0:30:00 being applied
0:30:02 to a picture so the fundamental
0:30:05 essence of this piece of knowledge is
0:30:07 actually testimonial not empirical
0:30:09 now many of you say well if you go on a
0:30:10 read a high mountain you can see the
0:30:11 curvature of the earth
0:30:12 well then again it doesn't mean it's
0:30:14 round maybe it's a flower
0:30:15 maybe it's a semicircle right the point
0:30:19 i'm trying to say here is
0:30:20 that you don't have many of us
0:30:23 at least maybe 80 90 of us we don't have
0:30:26 scientific
0:30:27 direct empirical evidence for the world
0:30:30 being around
0:30:33 right it's testimonial fundamentally
0:30:38 so you know we could unpack this more in
0:30:41 the q a but let me give another question
0:30:43 does japan exist does japan exist
0:30:48 how do you know japan exists many of you
0:30:50 gonna say yes of course it exists okay
0:30:53 now here's a caveat if you haven't been
0:30:55 there
0:30:56 right if you haven't been there
0:31:00 that you haven't experienced it
0:31:02 empirically if you're like
0:31:04 then how do you know it exists well
0:31:05 you're going to say it's on a map i've
0:31:07 met a japanese person before
0:31:09 before you know i've been learning
0:31:11 japanese but that doesn't mean
0:31:13 anything that's all fundamentally
0:31:14 testimonial knowledge because
0:31:16 someone's saying that they're japanese
0:31:18 you have to believe them that they're
0:31:19 japanese
0:31:21 right you know i say to you i'm greek
0:31:23 i'm ethnically greek
0:31:26 i'm british but ethnically greek my
0:31:28 mom's from cyprus my dad's from greece
0:31:30 so i'm ethnic she's greek cypriot my mom
0:31:32 so i'm ethnically greek right
0:31:36 is that empirical evidence no you have
0:31:38 to believe what i said it's it's it's
0:31:39 it's testimonial transmission
0:31:41 many of you won't even believe me anyway
0:31:42 you probably think i look arab or
0:31:44 persian or pakistani right
0:31:45 so there you go so the here the point
0:31:48 here is see
0:31:49 meeting someone who's japanese is not
0:31:50 proof that japan exists from an
0:31:52 empirical point of view it's proved from
0:31:54 a testimonial point of view it's
0:31:55 testimonial
0:31:56 knowledge i'm not dismissing it it's
0:31:57 valid and fundamental but that's why i'm
0:31:58 trying to
0:31:59 show you today even if you look at
0:32:01 things in a map
0:32:02 even if you look at videos of
0:32:04 documentaries and books on history and
0:32:05 you have a library of japanese
0:32:07 cultural studies or whatever the case
0:32:09 may be or you eat lots of sushi and they
0:32:11 say this is a japanese
0:32:12 culture dish that's all testimonial
0:32:15 knowledge because someone told you
0:32:17 right in actual fact even if you went to
0:32:19 japan itself and you went on a plane it
0:32:21 says going to japan you arrive in tokyo
0:32:23 that's still all testimonial really
0:32:26 because
0:32:28 you just have to believe them isn't it
0:32:30 you have to believe that yes you're
0:32:31 you're in japan now
0:32:32 you have to believe them yes that the
0:32:34 people you're speaking to are actually
0:32:35 japanese and they're in this area
0:32:37 that looks like the picture that you're
0:32:39 looking at right now
0:32:41 so it's fundamentally testimonial but in
0:32:44 essence if you've never been there
0:32:45 before
0:32:46 all your evidence that japan exists is
0:32:49 actually testimonial fundamentally even
0:32:51 if you have pictures even you have
0:32:52 videos
0:32:53 again just like the earth being
0:32:55 spherical it's testimonial transmission
0:32:57 because someone has to say
0:32:58 this to you they have to say well we're
0:33:00 in japan right now or this person's
0:33:02 japanese
0:33:03 or what i'm speaking to you is actually
0:33:04 japanese or
0:33:06 uh um this food that you're eating is
0:33:08 called sushi and it's from japan
0:33:10 you know this is testimonial
0:33:12 transmission
0:33:14 right hopefully this is you're going to
0:33:16 understand this now
0:33:18 this one's very powerful brothers and
0:33:20 sisters i'm telling you this one is what
0:33:21 i would call a
0:33:22 smackdown right
0:33:25 a smackdown okay so
0:33:29 this is a smackdown brothers and sisters
0:33:32 how do you know right how do you know
0:33:35 how to pronounce this word that you see
0:33:36 on the screen right now
0:33:38 how do you know how to pronounce love
0:33:40 tell me
0:33:42 how do you know how to pronounce love
0:33:48 why do we say love and we don't say love
0:33:52 why do we say love and we don't say love
0:33:56 e why do we say love and we don't say
0:33:59 lo vi right
0:34:03 why do we say love and we don't say love
0:34:05 and we just have the e
0:34:07 as silent right
0:34:10 why do we do that tell me
0:34:15 the pronunciation the correct
0:34:17 pronunciation of the word love
0:34:19 is through testimonial transmission
0:34:22 there is no empirical reality other than
0:34:26 testimonial transmission so there's no
0:34:28 empirical reality all you have is
0:34:29 testimonial transmission to understand
0:34:31 how to pronounce words
0:34:32 now you may argue no hamza you know in
0:34:34 these special dictionaries
0:34:36 you have the word and you have these
0:34:37 symbols these international type of
0:34:39 symbols that teach you how to pronounce
0:34:40 those words
0:34:41 hold on a second what came first the
0:34:43 pronunciation of the book
0:34:45 that tells you how to pronounce it was
0:34:47 the pronunciation
0:34:48 that didn't you do you know we weren't
0:34:50 revealed from the skies
0:34:51 a book on how to pronounce words in
0:34:54 certain languages
0:34:55 and then we used that and then started
0:34:56 to pronounce the words correctly that
0:34:58 wasn't the case
0:34:59 we learned how to use how to pronounce
0:35:01 words in any language
0:35:03 through testosterone testimonial
0:35:04 transmission so if you deny
0:35:07 testimonial transmission it's
0:35:08 fundamental indispensable nature
0:35:11 u is tantamount equivalent
0:35:13 philosophically logically equivalent
0:35:15 of rejecting
0:35:18 all known languages it's very powerful
0:35:23 so that's testimony brother brothers and
0:35:26 sisters now there's some important
0:35:27 distinctions we have to make
0:35:29 we know in academia there is a
0:35:31 difference between testimonial
0:35:32 transmission of narratives and knowledge
0:35:34 and eyewitness testimonies because
0:35:36 eyewitness testimonies
0:35:37 according to according to research
0:35:41 you know they do suffer with regards to
0:35:44 um you know the testimonial transmission
0:35:47 of a particular event that happened
0:35:49 and you know some of them suffered due
0:35:51 to due to people's imperfect short-term
0:35:53 memories
0:35:54 the psychological influence and so on
0:35:56 and so forth as i write in my book here
0:35:58 eyewitness testimony may suffer due to
0:36:00 our imperfect short-term memories and
0:36:02 the psychological influences and
0:36:03 constraints
0:36:04 on recalling the sequence of a
0:36:06 particular event
0:36:08 the testimony of knowledge ideas or
0:36:10 concepts does not suffer from such
0:36:12 issues because the acquisition of
0:36:14 knowledge is usually a result of
0:36:15 repetition
0:36:16 a relatively longer duration
0:36:18 internalization and study
0:36:19 so it's an important distinction to make
0:36:21 between transmission of narratives and
0:36:24 knowledge
0:36:24 and actually eyewitness testimony as
0:36:27 well
0:36:28 but then again this doesn't mean that
0:36:29 eyewitness testimony
0:36:31 is is not valid there could be some
0:36:33 criteria in place to ensure
0:36:35 especially especially if it's multiple
0:36:38 eyewitness testimony that is actually
0:36:41 uh true and you know what's really
0:36:43 interesting david hume
0:36:45 who was who was
0:36:49 a skeptic right he actually argues
0:36:52 you know when he argued argues against
0:36:54 miracles because
0:36:55 traditionally miracles were only proved
0:36:57 by testimony
0:36:59 he said in actual fact you can believe
0:37:01 in miracles
0:37:02 if there's something called something
0:37:04 called uh recurrent reporting mass
0:37:06 testimonial transmission overnight went
0:37:09 over
0:37:10 over an event that many people witnessed
0:37:12 and i went at a particular event
0:37:13 and there are so many of those people
0:37:15 and they didn't meet and they kind of
0:37:17 came from different places and times or
0:37:18 something like that
0:37:19 that you have to believe in what they
0:37:20 say to be true and this is very
0:37:22 interesting because david hume was
0:37:23 actually
0:37:24 talking about what we understand in the
0:37:25 islamic intellectual tradition
0:37:27 as the mutawatyrat or muttawater
0:37:30 or tawator mass recurrent reporting
0:37:33 because
0:37:34 you know a or hadith or something that
0:37:36 is mutha water
0:37:38 you know there's there's no there's no
0:37:40 doubt about that testimonial
0:37:41 transmission
0:37:42 right because it came from different
0:37:44 places uh
0:37:46 rather it came from people that came
0:37:47 from different places at different times
0:37:50 and many of these people never never met
0:37:51 each other but when you go down the test
0:37:53 testimonial transmissions
0:37:54 they all say the same thing or they all
0:37:56 witness the same thing it's impossible
0:37:59 to say that they actually uh you know
0:38:01 conjured up some kind of massive
0:38:03 conspiracy
0:38:05 in order to uh you know come up with
0:38:08 with a certain claim and david hume look
0:38:10 what he says
0:38:11 look what he says he says the following
0:38:14 i beg the limitations here
0:38:15 may made me remarked when i say that a
0:38:18 miracle
0:38:20 can never be proved so as to be the
0:38:22 foundation of a system of religion
0:38:24 for i own that otherwise there may
0:38:26 possibly be miracles
0:38:28 or violations of the usual course of
0:38:30 nature
0:38:31 of such a kind as to admit a of proof
0:38:34 from human testimony
0:38:36 though perhaps it would be impossible to
0:38:38 find such
0:38:39 in all records of history thus suppose
0:38:43 all authors in all languages agree
0:38:46 that from the 1st of january 1600 there
0:38:49 was a total darkness over the whole
0:38:51 earth for eight days
0:38:53 suppose that the tradition of this
0:38:55 extraordinary event is still strong and
0:38:57 lively among the people
0:38:59 that all travelers who return from
0:39:01 foreign countries bring us
0:39:02 accounts of the same tradition without
0:39:05 the least variation of contradiction
0:39:07 it is evident that our present
0:39:09 philosophers
0:39:10 instead of doubting the fact ought to
0:39:12 receive it a certain
0:39:14 it's very interesting that many of these
0:39:16 atheists who quote hume to reject
0:39:17 miracles
0:39:18 don't read further down and see what he
0:39:21 said about mass transmission
0:39:22 he's saying if there's this type of mass
0:39:24 transmission and there's no difference
0:39:26 in the eyewitness testimony
0:39:27 then we have to believe in what they
0:39:29 said is true and what's very interesting
0:39:31 he said we didn't have an example
0:39:33 well he doesn't know about the quran
0:39:35 because the quran is a tawatur it's
0:39:37 it's based on the mutawwatirat it's
0:39:39 based on the mass
0:39:40 transmission of our scholars and the
0:39:43 sahaba
0:39:43 and the muslim community just like
0:39:47 the way we pronounce words like the word
0:39:49 love has come down to us by this mass
0:39:52 reporting this mass transmission i know
0:39:54 this is a bit of a sight
0:39:55 uh topic but i thought it was important
0:39:57 to discuss
0:39:58 another important distinction to make is
0:40:00 just because that testimony can be wrong
0:40:03 you don't throw the baby out with the
0:40:04 bath wall as we discussed earlier
0:40:06 because even empirical data or
0:40:07 experience could be wrong
0:40:09 and we've known this this is well known
0:40:11 in the philosophy of science this is
0:40:12 well known in
0:40:13 you know in metaphysics when you're
0:40:15 studying empiricism and so on and so
0:40:16 forth
0:40:17 so just because testimony can be wrong
0:40:20 you don't you don't now say it's not a
0:40:22 fundamental source of knowledge now what
0:40:23 you discussed now
0:40:25 is well what constitutes valid
0:40:26 testimonial knowledge
0:40:45 so it's very important for you to
0:40:47 understand as well brothers and sisters
0:40:51 so brothers and sisters let's now
0:40:56 let's now talk about
0:41:00 inference to the best explanation now
0:41:02 brothers and sisters
0:41:03 inference of the best explanation is
0:41:05 what you call
0:41:07 an invaluable way of thinking right it
0:41:09 involves
0:41:10 trying to clearly explain a particular
0:41:12 set of data or background knowledge
0:41:15 and the way to understand this really
0:41:17 well is
0:41:18 a medical diagnosis if you go for
0:41:20 example to a doctor
0:41:22 and you give the doctor your symptoms
0:41:24 they have the background medical
0:41:26 medical academic study the background
0:41:29 medical experiences
0:41:31 the background medical knowledge they
0:41:33 look at the data
0:41:34 which is your symptoms and they
0:41:36 basically
0:41:37 give you the best explanation that
0:41:40 explains your symptoms
0:41:42 what the doctor is basically doing is
0:41:44 inference to the best explanation
0:41:46 they're saying right there are all these
0:41:48 symptoms based on my background
0:41:49 experience
0:41:50 based on my medical knowledge based on
0:41:52 my academic
0:41:53 uh medical academic background
0:41:56 i think there are four possible
0:41:58 explanations then i'm assessing these
0:42:00 explanations and i pick one of them
0:42:02 because this explanation
0:42:04 best explains your symptoms this
0:42:06 explanation
0:42:08 is more comprehensive this explanation
0:42:10 has explanatory sculpting
0:42:12 explains all of your symptoms and he
0:42:14 explains your medical history
0:42:16 as well so what the doctor is actually
0:42:17 doing here is something called
0:42:19 inference to the best explanation um
0:42:23 peter lipton who wrote the book
0:42:25 inference to the best explanation
0:42:27 actually summarizes this and he says the
0:42:29 doctor
0:42:30 infers that his patients patient has
0:42:33 measles since this is the best
0:42:35 explanation of the evidence before him
0:42:37 and then he continues with other sources
0:42:39 of knowledge he says the astronomer
0:42:41 infers the existence of the motion of
0:42:43 neptune
0:42:44 since that is the best explanation of
0:42:46 the observed
0:42:47 perturbations of uranus given our data
0:42:50 and our background beliefs
0:42:52 we infer what would if true provide this
0:42:55 best of the competing explanations we
0:42:58 can generate
0:42:59 of those data and yes there is a
0:43:01 philosophical discussion on
0:43:03 what explanations are the best
0:43:05 explanation out of
0:43:06 a competing set of explanations and
0:43:09 there's this discussion on simplicity
0:43:12 and comprehensiveness and we don't have
0:43:14 to go too much into it because
0:43:16 you know we already understand that
0:43:18 inference to the best explanation is a
0:43:19 valid
0:43:20 way of thinking but just to be a little
0:43:23 bit academically
0:43:24 nuanced from that perspective and i'll
0:43:26 read from my book here
0:43:29 you know when we talk about inference to
0:43:31 the best explanation as with most things
0:43:33 we can have competing explanations for
0:43:35 the data at our disposal
0:43:37 what filters these explanations it's not
0:43:39 only the plausibility
0:43:41 but the ability of other pieces of data
0:43:43 that could help us discriminate between
0:43:45 them and
0:43:46 lipton explains we begin by considering
0:43:48 plausible
0:43:50 candidate explanations and then try to
0:43:51 find data that discriminate between them
0:43:54 an inference may be defeated when
0:43:55 someone suggests a better
0:43:57 alternative explanation even though the
0:43:59 evidence doesn't change
0:44:01 now the accessibility to additional data
0:44:03 is not the only way to
0:44:05 to access which of the competing
0:44:07 explanations is most com
0:44:08 most convincing the best explanation is
0:44:10 one that is
0:44:11 the simplest simplicity however is just
0:44:13 the beginning
0:44:14 as there must be a careful balance
0:44:16 between simplicity and comprehensiveness
0:44:18 comprehensiveness entails that an
0:44:20 explanation must have explanatory
0:44:22 power and scope the explanation must
0:44:24 account for all of the data
0:44:26 including disparate or unique
0:44:28 observations
0:44:29 now another criterion to assess the
0:44:31 comprehensiveness
0:44:32 of an explanation includes explaining
0:44:34 data or observations that were
0:44:36 previously unknown
0:44:37 unexpected or inexplicable an important
0:44:40 principle in assessing the best
0:44:42 explanation
0:44:43 is that it is most likely to be true
0:44:45 compared to competing explanations
0:44:48 given our background knowledge and you
0:44:50 also have the
0:44:51 the academic philosopher from princeton
0:44:54 university gilbert h harman
0:44:56 he assesses this as well now
0:45:00 the point here is i just wanted to
0:45:02 explain
0:45:03 that inference to the explanation is
0:45:04 actually a valid form
0:45:06 of thinking now what's very interesting
0:45:08 is this is that we use it all the time
0:45:10 say you're a mother and you told your
0:45:12 seven-year-old cheeky son
0:45:13 not to have any biscuits and you go
0:45:16 upstairs i don't know to send an email
0:45:18 to someone from your desktop
0:45:20 and your son goes to the kitchen opens
0:45:22 uh
0:45:23 the the cupboard takes a cookie jar or a
0:45:26 biscuit jar
0:45:27 he eats all the biscuits then he's
0:45:28 soulful he falls asleep on the couch
0:45:31 now the jar is empty but you see crumbs
0:45:33 all over his face now when you go
0:45:35 downstairs to see what he's doing
0:45:37 would you conclude you don't conclude
0:45:39 that somehow miraculously
0:45:41 the cookie jar the or or the biscuit jar
0:45:45 came out of the cupboard and and someone
0:45:47 took the cookies and someone crumbled
0:45:49 them over your son's face of course not
0:45:51 you're gonna infer the best explanation
0:45:54 given the background data of your son
0:45:56 and his cheekiness throughout his seven
0:45:58 years of living
0:46:00 and given the fact that he loves
0:46:01 biscuits and he already told him not to
0:46:03 have them because sometimes he's very
0:46:04 cheeky and he wants to have those
0:46:05 biscuits
0:46:06 and given the fact that he's done this
0:46:08 before and given the fact that he has
0:46:10 crumbs all over his face and the biscuit
0:46:12 dries right next to him
0:46:13 then obviously the best explanation the
0:46:16 inference to the best explanation is
0:46:17 what
0:46:19 he ate them right so we use this in our
0:46:22 day-to-day lives
0:46:23 we use this in medicine we use this
0:46:25 everywhere
0:46:26 we use his brothers and sisters
0:46:27 especially in science
0:46:29 as well so let's continue
0:46:32 let's now formulate the argument if you
0:46:35 remember brothers and sisters
0:46:36 we formulated the argument we we
0:46:40 we gave you the premises and now it's
0:46:42 about unpacking the premises so let me
0:46:44 give you the premises again
0:46:46 number one the quran presents a literary
0:46:48 linguistic challenge to humanity
0:46:50 number two the seventh century arabs
0:46:52 were best placed to challenge the quran
0:46:54 number three the seventh century
0:46:55 absolute to do so
0:46:57 number four scholars have testified to
0:46:59 the quran's inimitability
0:47:01 number five count scholarly testimonies
0:47:03 are not plausible as they have to reject
0:47:05 the established
0:47:06 background information which is
0:47:07 important concerning inference to the
0:47:09 best explanation
0:47:10 number six from one to five the quran is
0:47:13 inimitable
0:47:14 number seven the possible explanations
0:47:16 for the quran's inimitability are
0:47:18 authorship by an arab and non-arab
0:47:19 muhammad salem or god
0:47:21 number eight it could not it could have
0:47:23 not been produced by an arab
0:47:24 and non-arab or muhammad sallam
0:47:28 number nine the conclusion therefore the
0:47:30 best explanation
0:47:31 is that it is from god so now we're
0:47:34 gonna unpack
0:47:35 all of these premises together brothers
0:47:38 and
0:47:38 sisters in sha allah so the first
0:47:41 premise
0:47:41 the quran presents a literary and
0:47:43 linguistic challenge to humanity and by
0:47:45 the way when we unpack all of these
0:47:46 premises
0:47:47 we're not going to need to know any
0:47:49 anything about the arabic language and
0:47:51 the way we articulate to people they
0:47:52 won't need to know anything about the
0:47:54 arabic language too
0:47:55 because we've spoken about testimony as
0:47:57 background information we've spoken
0:47:58 about inference to the best explanation
0:48:00 and we're gonna now expand and unpack
0:48:02 some of these premises
0:48:03 and premise number one is the quran's
0:48:06 the quran presents a literary
0:48:07 and linguistic challenge to humanity
0:48:10 this is true you can read it in any
0:48:12 language
0:48:12 the quran chapter 3 verse 23 so the
0:48:15 quran chapter 2 verse 23 allah says
0:48:18 if you have doubts about the revelation
0:48:20 we have sent down to our servant
0:48:22 referring to the prophet muhammad
0:48:25 then produce a single chapter like it
0:48:27 and list whatever supporters you have
0:48:29 other than allah other than god
0:48:31 in kuntum if you are truthful in your
0:48:34 claim
0:48:34 okay so this is the challenge and if you
0:48:37 go to
0:48:38 the the tafasir if you go to the
0:48:40 multiple
0:48:41 exegesis concerning this verse and
0:48:44 there's lots of discussion on this verse
0:48:46 and other verses similar to it you know
0:48:48 you have a suyuti
0:48:49 you have ibn ketir you have to be and
0:48:53 and and so on and so forth they have a
0:48:56 discussion
0:48:56 and they talk about there is something
0:48:58 special about the literature
0:49:00 and linguistic features of the quranic
0:49:02 discourse but yes they mention other
0:49:03 things too
0:49:04 and there are other opinions but they do
0:49:06 mention that there is this
0:49:07 literary intellectual challenge because
0:49:10 the quran was sent down
0:49:11 to a populist to the 7th century arabs
0:49:14 where they had the peak of eloquence
0:49:16 they were the masters ticketing
0:49:18 themselves articulating themselves in
0:49:20 the arabic
0:49:20 language and the quran came to challenge
0:49:23 them in order to show
0:49:25 the quran is from the divine so we have
0:49:28 a literary linguistic challenge that the
0:49:31 quran
0:49:32 presents now this opens a kind of kind
0:49:35 of theological or theo philosophical
0:49:38 development of the inimitability of the
0:49:41 quran or as
0:49:42 is known in the arabic language as uh
0:49:45 the quran the jazz the miraculous
0:49:48 nature of the quranic discourse and what
0:49:52 this basically means is that no one is
0:49:53 able to
0:49:54 imitate or to match the quran's
0:49:56 linguistic
0:49:57 and literary features that's what it
0:49:58 means when we say the inimitability of
0:50:00 the quran
0:50:01 that no one can match or imitate the
0:50:04 quran's literary or linguistic features
0:50:07 now the word jazz is a verbal noun that
0:50:09 means miraculousness and
0:50:12 it comes from the verb which means to
0:50:15 render incapable or to make
0:50:17 helpless you understand here the jazz
0:50:19 the jazz of the quran
0:50:21 the fact that people try to imitate the
0:50:23 quran they they are rendered and capable
0:50:25 they are incapacitated
0:50:26 and they they are they are made helpless
0:50:29 they cannot
0:50:30 match the beauty and the linguistic and
0:50:33 and
0:50:34 literary features of the quranic
0:50:35 discourse now
0:50:39 the kind of linguistic understanding of
0:50:41 jazz you know makes us understand the
0:50:43 kind of theological doctrine
0:50:45 of the inimitability of the quran of the
0:50:47 elijah of the quran
0:50:48 and this was based on the idea that the
0:50:50 linguists or the arab linguists of the
0:50:52 seventh century arabia
0:50:53 the the period of revelation they were
0:50:56 masters
0:50:56 are expressing themselves in the in the
0:50:58 arabic language
0:51:00 and basically what this challenge is
0:51:03 is that the quran came to challenge the
0:51:05 masters
0:51:06 of the arabic language those who reached
0:51:09 the peak
0:51:10 of the language of expressing themselves
0:51:12 in the arabic tongue
0:51:13 the peak of they reached the peak of
0:51:15 eloquence and the quran came
0:51:16 and basically dumbfounded them
0:51:19 incapacitated them
0:51:21 made them helpless and incapable to
0:51:23 produce anything
0:51:24 like the book of allah subhanahu wa
0:51:26 ta'ala now
0:51:28 so yuti the prolific 15th century writer
0:51:31 and scholar he summarizes this doctrine
0:51:33 of the ijazal quran in the following way
0:51:36 he says
0:51:37 when the prophet sallam brought the
0:51:39 challenge to them
0:51:40 and they were the most eloquent
0:51:42 rhetoricians so he challenged them to
0:51:45 to produce the entire likes of the quran
0:51:47 and many years passed and they were
0:51:49 unable to do so
0:51:50 as god says let them then produce a
0:51:52 recitation similar to it
0:51:54 if indeed they are truthful then the
0:51:56 prophet challenged them to produce 10
0:51:58 chapters like it
0:51:59 where god says say bring say bring 10
0:52:02 chapters like it
0:52:03 and call upon whom who met whomever you
0:52:06 can besides god
0:52:07 if you are truthful then he challenged
0:52:10 them to produce a single chapter where
0:52:12 god says
0:52:13 or do they say he in other words the
0:52:14 prophet saslam has forged it
0:52:16 say bring a chapter like it and call
0:52:18 upon whomever you can besides god
0:52:20 if you are truthful and then suti
0:52:22 continues when the arabs were unable to
0:52:25 produce a single chapter like it the
0:52:26 quran
0:52:27 despite their being the most they they
0:52:30 being the most eloquent reterritions
0:52:32 amongst them
0:52:33 the prophet sallam openly announced a
0:52:35 failure in in
0:52:36 inability to meet the challenge and
0:52:38 declared the inimitability of the quran
0:52:41 then god said say if all of humankind
0:52:44 and the jinn gathered together to
0:52:45 produce the like of the quran
0:52:47 they could not produce it even if they
0:52:49 help
0:52:50 one another and this brothers and
0:52:52 sisters is
0:52:53 a summary of the doctrine of their jazz
0:52:56 of the quran and yes i do
0:52:57 understand their differences of opinion
0:53:00 concerning
0:53:01 what type of challenges this is what
0:53:03 this is what is the nature of the
0:53:04 challenge
0:53:05 what is the linguistic and literary
0:53:07 features that this challenge refers to
0:53:09 but this is not needing our discussion
0:53:11 today because remember
0:53:12 we don't need to know anything about the
0:53:14 arabic language you're going to
0:53:15 understand
0:53:16 further why that's the case so
0:53:19 i think we have substantiated the first
0:53:22 the first premise brothers and sisters
0:53:24 that the quran provides a challenge to
0:53:26 humanity a challenge
0:53:28 to the 7th century arabs who reached the
0:53:30 peak of eloquence
0:53:31 the quran provides a literary and
0:53:34 linguistic challenge
0:53:35 so the second premise is very important
0:53:37 to understand the second premise is
0:53:39 the seventh century arabs were best
0:53:40 placed to challenge the quran
0:53:43 now this is so true because when you
0:53:44 study the seventh century arabs
0:53:47 you see that they reached the peak of
0:53:48 eloquence this is affirmed by
0:53:50 western and eastern scholarship they
0:53:52 lived in a social cultural environment
0:53:55 that had all the right conditions to
0:53:57 facilitate the unparalleled expertise in
0:53:59 the use of the arabic language
0:54:01 you know for you to study poetry you
0:54:03 didn't go to university for just three
0:54:05 years
0:54:05 you stayed with a poetic master for 10
0:54:08 years
0:54:09 sometimes in the mountains you
0:54:11 internalized yourself
0:54:12 in these rhetorical sciences you
0:54:14 internalized
0:54:16 these kind of this ability to produce
0:54:19 you know
0:54:20 superior eloquence to anybody else and
0:54:23 what's very interesting
0:54:24 from a social political perspective that
0:54:26 that that
0:54:27 a poet was could start a war and could
0:54:30 end
0:54:30 a war you know they were seen as the
0:54:32 extremely
0:54:34 important uh features of
0:54:37 you know society it's extremely
0:54:39 important you know
0:54:40 people in society you know the scholar
0:54:43 usmani
0:54:44 may allah preserve him he he asserts
0:54:46 that for the 7th century arab
0:54:48 eloquence and rhetoric were their
0:54:50 lifeblood
0:54:52 also the 9th century biographer of
0:54:55 the poets he says
0:54:58 verse was to the arabs the register or
0:55:01 they knew
0:55:01 and the utmost compass of their wisdom
0:55:04 with it they began their affairs
0:55:06 and with it they ended them you have the
0:55:09 14th century scholarly
0:55:11 he highlights the importance of poetry
0:55:13 in arab life
0:55:14 he says it should be known that arabs
0:55:17 fought highly of poetry as form of
0:55:19 as a form of speech they made it in they
0:55:22 made it
0:55:22 in they made it to the archives of the
0:55:24 history the evidence for they considered
0:55:26 right and wrong
0:55:27 and the principle basis of reference for
0:55:29 most of their sciences and wisdom
0:55:31 also you have the linguist that also the
0:55:33 linguistic ability and expertise
0:55:35 of the 7th century arab is highlighted
0:55:37 by the literary critic and historian
0:55:39 ibn rashid he illustrates the following
0:55:42 he says whenever a poet emerged in an
0:55:45 arab tribe
0:55:46 other tribes will come to congratulate
0:55:49 feasts
0:55:49 feasts will be prepared the women would
0:55:51 join together on loots as they do
0:55:53 as at weddings and old and young men
0:55:56 would all rejoice at the good news
0:55:58 the arabs used to congratulate each
0:56:00 other only on the birth of a child
0:56:03 and when a poet rose amongst them
0:56:06 and there's so much more evidences
0:56:08 brothers and sisters to show
0:56:09 and to talk about the importance of a
0:56:12 language in seventh century arabia there
0:56:15 was a socialization
0:56:17 from that perspective you know the ninth
0:56:19 century scholar ibn qutaba
0:56:21 he defined poetry as the arab soy he
0:56:24 says
0:56:24 the mind of the ara the knowledge of the
0:56:27 arabs the book of the wisdom the
0:56:29 truthful witness on the day of dispute
0:56:31 the final proof at the time of argument
0:56:34 also
0:56:34 nabeed karmani who is an academic and an
0:56:38 expert in islamic studies
0:56:39 he explains that the 7th century arab
0:56:41 lived in a world that revered poetry
0:56:43 there was the correct kind of
0:56:45 socialization and environment for this
0:56:47 he says old arabic poetry is a highly
0:56:50 complex phenomenon
0:56:51 the vocabulary grammatical indie
0:56:54 idiosyncrasies
0:56:55 and strict norms were passed down from
0:56:58 generation to generation
0:56:59 and only the most gifted students fully
0:57:02 mastered the language
0:57:03 a person had to study for years
0:57:05 sometimes even decades under a master
0:57:08 poet
0:57:09 before laying claim to the title of poet
0:57:11 muhammad sallam grew up in a world
0:57:13 which almost religiously revered poetic
0:57:18 expression so i think we can say
0:57:21 just from the basic evidence that we've
0:57:23 given you there's much more
0:57:24 and the references are there for you to
0:57:26 to to access
0:57:28 that the seven series since seventh
0:57:31 century arab
0:57:32 was the best at expressing themselves in
0:57:35 the arabic language this is well known
0:57:37 based on eastern and western scholarship
0:57:40 so now we can move to the third premise
0:57:42 the third premise is
0:57:43 the the seventh century arabs failed to
0:57:45 do so
0:57:46 now this is very interesting because we
0:57:48 know that we're incapacitated
0:57:50 okay so for instance linguistic expert
0:57:53 professor hussein abdullah if he asserts
0:57:54 the following he says the arabs
0:57:56 at the time had reached the linguistic
0:57:58 peak in terms of linguistic competence
0:58:00 in sciences
0:58:01 rhetoric oratory oratory and poetry
0:58:05 no one however has been able to produce
0:58:07 a single chapter similar to that of the
0:58:09 quran
0:58:10 even professor of quranic studies
0:58:11 angelica knew worth
0:58:14 argued that the quran has never been
0:58:15 successfully challenged by anyone past
0:58:17 or present
0:58:18 she says no one has succeeded that is
0:58:21 this is right i really think that the
0:58:22 quran has even brought western
0:58:24 researchers embarrassment
0:58:25 who weren't able to clarify how suddenly
0:58:28 in an environment where there was no
0:58:30 appreciable written text appeared the
0:58:32 quran with its richness of ideas
0:58:34 and magnificent wordings and
0:58:37 i think the most powerful argument
0:58:39 brothers and sisters to show
0:58:41 that the seventh century ad was
0:58:42 incapacitated
0:58:44 is in the following statement and this
0:58:45 has been taken from my book
0:58:48 and i really want you to listen to this
0:58:49 very carefully because i think it's a
0:58:51 it's a phenomenal argument you don't
0:58:54 have to even go to the language itself
0:58:56 think about it from a social political
0:58:57 perspective listen to this
0:59:00 a powerful argument that supports the
0:59:02 assertion that the 7th century arabs
0:59:04 failed to imitate the quran relate to
0:59:07 the social political circumstances of
0:59:09 the time
0:59:10 central to the quranic message was the
0:59:12 condemnation of the immoral unjust and
0:59:14 evil practices
0:59:15 of the 7th century meccan tribes these
0:59:18 included the objectification of women
0:59:20 unjust trade polytheism slavery hoarding
0:59:23 of wealth
0:59:24 infanticide and the shunning of the
0:59:26 orphans
0:59:27 the meccan leadership was being
0:59:29 challenged by the quranic message
0:59:31 and this had the potential to undermine
0:59:33 their leadership and economic success
0:59:36 in order for islam to stop spreading all
0:59:39 that was needed
0:59:40 for the prophet sasam's adversaries was
0:59:42 to meet the linguistic
0:59:44 to meet the linguistic and literary
0:59:45 challenge of the quran however
0:59:47 the fact that islam succeeded and
0:59:50 listened to this
0:59:51 in its early fragile days in mecca
0:59:54 testifies to the fact that its primary
0:59:56 audience was not
0:59:57 able to meet the quranic challenge no
1:00:00 movement can succeed
1:00:02 if a claim fundamental to its core is
1:00:05 explicitly proven false
1:00:07 the fact that the meant that the meccan
1:00:09 leadership had to retort
1:00:10 resort to extreme campaigns such as
1:00:13 warfare and torture
1:00:15 to attempt to extinguish islam
1:00:17 demonstrates that the easy method
1:00:20 of refuting islam meeting the quranic
1:00:22 challenge
1:00:24 failed and i think that is enough for
1:00:27 this premise
1:00:29 fourth premise brothers and sisters
1:00:31 scholars have testified to the quran's
1:00:33 inimitability so scholars
1:00:35 have testified to the quran's
1:00:38 inimitability so let's talk about this
1:00:40 well there's many scholars you can't fit
1:00:42 all of this on the presentation slides
1:00:44 but there's so many
1:00:45 you have professor ovirento studies
1:00:47 martin zames he says
1:00:49 notwithstanding the literary exodus of
1:00:51 some of the long pre-islamic poems
1:00:53 the quran is definitely on a level of
1:00:55 its own as the most eminent written
1:00:57 manifestation of the arabic language
1:00:59 you have the orientalist and literature
1:01:01 aj arbury
1:01:02 he says in making the present attempt to
1:01:05 improve
1:01:06 on the performance of predecessors and
1:01:08 to produce something which might be
1:01:09 accepted
1:01:10 as echoing however faintly the sublime
1:01:13 rhetoric of the arabic quran
1:01:15 i have been at pain to study the
1:01:16 intricate and ritual rhythms which
1:01:18 apart from the message itself
1:01:20 constitutes the quran's undeniable claim
1:01:23 to rank amongst amongst the greatest
1:01:25 literary masterpieces
1:01:27 of mankind and there are so many more
1:01:29 arabist
1:01:30 hamilton gibb and so on and so forth and
1:01:33 there's a whole list that you can find
1:01:35 on my book which you could for free on
1:01:37 the sa prince institute website
1:01:39 now moving on from this you have those
1:01:42 some key contentions right
1:01:44 because some people will argue hold on a
1:01:46 second hamza well what about
1:01:48 shakespeare and al-muttanabbi the famous
1:01:52 isn't shakespeare is that shakespeare
1:01:55 inimitable
1:01:55 right is it shakespeare in imitative
1:01:58 inimitable
1:01:59 well there's something that we need to
1:02:00 really clarify here right
1:02:03 so let's first talk about so who was
1:02:07 it
1:02:13 right he was considered an inimitable
1:02:15 poetic genius by
1:02:16 by many arabs right and some have argued
1:02:19 that although
1:02:20 other poets have used the same paneeric
1:02:23 genre and poetic meter as the great poet
1:02:25 they have not been able to match his
1:02:27 level eloquence and stylistic variants
1:02:29 therefore they conclude that
1:02:31 al-muttanabbi is inimitable
1:02:33 because we have the blueprint of his
1:02:34 work and the linguistic tools at our
1:02:36 disposal
1:02:37 but cannot emulate anything like his
1:02:39 poetic expression
1:02:41 if this is true then it undermines the
1:02:42 quranic inimitability however this is
1:02:44 totally false okay
1:02:46 this acclamation of false
1:02:50 firstly there have been many imitations
1:02:54 by jewish poets moses even ezra
1:02:57 and solomon even gabriel interestingly
1:03:00 the andalusian
1:03:02 poet in bin ibn hani al andalusi
1:03:05 was known as the al-mutanabi of the west
1:03:09 and what's very significant is that when
1:03:12 you study medieval arabic poetry
1:03:15 medieval arabic poetry didn't create new
1:03:17 literary genres
1:03:18 right this was due to the fact that it
1:03:19 depended on previous poetic work
1:03:22 and the academics the academic denis e
1:03:24 mcauley writes that medieval poetry
1:03:26 largely hinged
1:03:28 more on literary president than on
1:03:30 direct experience
1:03:32 also in classical arabic poetry it
1:03:33 wasn't unusual it's not unusual for a
1:03:35 poet to attempt to match a predecessor
1:03:37 poem
1:03:38 by writing a new one in the same poetic
1:03:40 meter rhyme and theme and this was
1:03:42 considered a normal practice
1:03:44 so it's not surprising that the
1:03:45 professor of religion emil
1:03:47 hamerin explored the literary expression
1:03:50 of even al-farid
1:03:51 and described his work as very original
1:03:54 improvisations of
1:03:57 and to fight to highlight further that
1:03:59 al-muttanabbi could be emulated
1:04:01 and you you you see that he disclosed
1:04:04 himself i think in his biographical
1:04:06 works
1:04:06 that the another poet abu nawaz
1:04:10 uh he actually borrowed work from abu
1:04:13 nawaz
1:04:14 and many medieval arabic literary
1:04:16 critics
1:04:17 such as even abbad and
1:04:20 abu ali muhammad even
1:04:24 they wrote criticisms right even a bad
1:04:26 for example
1:04:28 he he wrote um stuff against
1:04:32 me for example wrote a biographical
1:04:34 account of his an
1:04:35 encounter with al-muttanabbi in his
1:04:39 allurissala and he basically concludes
1:04:41 that you know
1:04:42 his work wasn't that great and it could
1:04:44 be emulated from that perspective
1:04:46 and and al-hatimi presents a stronger
1:04:48 polemic against alimutanabe and argues
1:04:50 the case that his poetry does not have a
1:04:52 unique style and contains error
1:04:54 even the academic professor sega a
1:04:57 bona backer who studied al-hatimi's
1:05:00 literature criticism of al-muttanabbi
1:05:02 he concludes the following judgement is
1:05:04 often well-founded
1:05:06 and one almost ends up feeling that that
1:05:09 moon
1:05:10 was after all a mediocre poet who was
1:05:13 not only lacking an original
1:05:14 originality but also had insufficient
1:05:17 competence in grammar
1:05:18 lexicography and rhetoric and sometimes
1:05:21 gave evidence of incredibly
1:05:23 bad taste now if you consider
1:05:25 shakespeare as well
1:05:27 sexy is thought to be unparalleled in
1:05:29 his use of
1:05:30 the english language however you have to
1:05:33 understand he's not inimitable
1:05:35 his sonnets are written predominantly in
1:05:37 a frequently used meter called the
1:05:39 iambic
1:05:40 pentameter which is a rhyme scheme in
1:05:42 which each sonnet line
1:05:44 consists of consists of ten syllables
1:05:46 and the syllables are divided in five
1:05:48 pairs called iams or
1:05:49 ambig feet and also since the blueprint
1:05:52 of his work is available it's not
1:05:54 surprising
1:05:55 that the english dramatist christopher
1:05:57 marlowe has a similar style
1:05:59 and that shakespeare has been compared
1:06:00 to francis beaumont john fletcher and
1:06:04 other playwrights of his time
1:06:06 so that you can't use so-called other
1:06:09 instances
1:06:10 of inimitability now one contention is
1:06:12 which is a valid contention
1:06:14 if someone would argue we're holding a
1:06:15 second hamza just because academics
1:06:18 they say that the quran is inimitable
1:06:21 they give you a testimonial transition
1:06:23 that it's inimitable right
1:06:27 it doesn't mean now the quran is from
1:06:28 god because
1:06:31 why do these scholars who say the quran
1:06:34 cannot be imitated
1:06:35 they haven't concluded that the quran is
1:06:38 from the divine
1:06:39 well there's a problem with this
1:06:40 contention it conflates testifying to
1:06:43 the quran's invitability
1:06:44 with inference to the best explanation
1:06:46 there's a conflation the conflation here
1:06:48 because the argument that we're
1:06:49 presenting here today does not conclude
1:06:52 the divinity of the quran from the
1:06:54 statements of the scholars
1:06:55 all it's saying is the quran is
1:06:58 inimitable
1:07:00 in order to now understand that it's
1:07:01 from the divine you have to apply
1:07:03 inference to the best explanation
1:07:05 so whether these scholars accept our
1:07:07 inference or not
1:07:09 is irrelevant we're just using the
1:07:11 scholars to show the inimitability of
1:07:13 the quran not the divine nature of the
1:07:15 quran
1:07:16 to now explain that the quran is from
1:07:18 the divine you have to apply the
1:07:19 inference to the best explanation
1:07:21 so there is a conflation this is a
1:07:23 interesting contention but it's not
1:07:25 a valid contention premise number five
1:07:28 we're almost there brothers and sisters
1:07:30 premise number five is counter scholarly
1:07:32 testimonies are not plausible
1:07:34 as they have to reject the established
1:07:36 background information
1:07:38 remember when it comes to epistemology
1:07:40 of testimony you need to have background
1:07:42 information
1:07:42 specifically with regards to inference
1:07:45 to the best explanation
1:07:46 you have background information that's
1:07:48 very important in order for you to make
1:07:50 the correct inferences so yes i agree
1:07:54 there are some there are some
1:07:57 scholars past and present muslim and
1:08:00 non-muslim maybe specifically rather
1:08:02 non-muslim that they say that the quran
1:08:04 is not inimitable it's
1:08:05 bad arabic it's got grammatical errors
1:08:08 it's got
1:08:09 you know bad prose or whatever the case
1:08:12 may be
1:08:13 now we don't have to take the testimony
1:08:15 seriously
1:08:16 by virtue of the testimonies that we
1:08:18 just discussed that talk about the
1:08:20 inimitability of the quran
1:08:21 but also because of important background
1:08:23 background information
1:08:25 because in order to take the counter
1:08:28 testimonies meaning
1:08:29 in order to take seriously the scholars
1:08:32 who say
1:08:32 the quran is not inimitability
1:08:34 inimitable in order to take them
1:08:36 seriously
1:08:37 you have to conclude some absurd
1:08:40 absurd conclusions there are some absurd
1:08:42 um
1:08:43 implications brothers and sisters
1:08:47 so let me explain what these
1:08:50 absurdities are now
1:08:54 if you adopt the counter testimonies of
1:08:56 these so-called scholars that say the
1:08:58 quran is not inevitable
1:09:01 you need an explanation you what is
1:09:04 required is an explanation
1:09:06 to answer why the 7th century arabs
1:09:09 couldn't produce anything like the quran
1:09:12 you have to provide an explanation
1:09:15 and possible explanations would have to
1:09:18 reject the validity of this established
1:09:20 history that the best arabs couldn't
1:09:22 produce anything like the quran
1:09:26 so therefore these counter-testimonial
1:09:28 claims
1:09:29 don't have a basis they have to remake
1:09:33 or reinvent arabic history or arabic
1:09:37 literature history from that perspective
1:09:41 and one would argue that rejecting the
1:09:43 established history would have to
1:09:44 remake the history of arabic literature
1:09:47 and not only that
1:09:48 they would have to assume these scholars
1:09:50 who provide counter testimony that say
1:09:52 the quran is not inimitable
1:09:53 they would also have to assume that they
1:09:55 are better than their seventh century
1:09:57 lingua
1:09:57 arabic linguists which is ridiculous
1:10:00 because
1:10:01 we're going to explain this later that
1:10:03 today's arabic you know
1:10:04 one is doesn't internalize arabic
1:10:08 in a pure way because of what you call
1:10:10 linguistic boring we live in a
1:10:11 heterogeneous linguistic culture
1:10:13 not a homogeneous linguistic culture
1:10:15 we're going to explain that later so
1:10:16 those who are saying
1:10:18 nothing special about the quran they
1:10:20 have to basically
1:10:22 show that they're better than the 7th
1:10:23 century arabic linguists
1:10:25 again remaking history these are all
1:10:27 absurdities
1:10:29 also they would have to deny the
1:10:30 challenge of the quran because it's
1:10:32 implied
1:10:32 in the previous points that we just made
1:10:36 but what's important is though is that
1:10:37 when we understand and we
1:10:39 go deep into the accusations of some of
1:10:42 these scholars who provide counter
1:10:43 testimonies
1:10:44 and say the quran is not inimitable you
1:10:47 know when we go into the
1:10:49 the accusation we see that they have
1:10:51 very bad arabic in the first place now
1:10:52 you don't have to understand this for
1:10:54 the argument but i just want to bring
1:10:55 this to you
1:10:56 for example take the highly acclaimed
1:10:58 german orientalist theodore nolteka
1:11:00 you know he said that the quran is ugly
1:11:04 it has a perceived ugliness there's all
1:11:06 these grammatical shifts
1:11:08 well with all due respect he didn't
1:11:09 understand bellaga he didn't understand
1:11:11 a deep
1:11:12 science of arabic rhetoric and eloquence
1:11:15 he had a very shallow understanding of
1:11:16 classical arabic
1:11:18 because these shifts in in grammatical
1:11:21 shifts
1:11:21 or these reference shifting in the
1:11:23 quranic discourse
1:11:25 is part of the dynamic nature of the
1:11:26 quran it enhances the communicative
1:11:29 effect of the quranic discourse
1:11:31 and this is known as ill-tifat
1:11:35 in the arabic language i believe means
1:11:37 moving from one direction
1:11:39 to the other moving from one
1:11:42 direction to the other there are many
1:11:45 grammatical shifts and these include
1:11:46 change in person
1:11:47 change in number change in addressee
1:11:50 change in tense
1:11:51 change in case marker using a noun in
1:11:53 place of a pronoun
1:11:54 and many other type of shifts and
1:11:56 changes and the function of these
1:11:58 reference shifting or these grammatical
1:12:00 shifts are there to in
1:12:02 to to to have a change of emphasis to
1:12:05 alert the reader to a particular manner
1:12:07 to enhance the style of the text to
1:12:09 enhance the communicative effect
1:12:11 it also impacts on
1:12:14 the generating rhythm and flow to
1:12:16 maintain the listeners attention and so
1:12:18 on and so forth so
1:12:19 a very powerful example is in the
1:12:21 shortest chapter of the quran
1:12:23 surah al-khalfa when allah subhanahu wa
1:12:25 ta'ala says verily we have given you the
1:12:27 abundance therefore turn
1:12:28 to your to in prayer to your lord and
1:12:31 sacrifice
1:12:32 for he is the one who will be cut off so
1:12:34 in the beginning allah says
1:12:37 verily we have given you the abundance
1:12:40 so the kind of
1:12:41 reference to himself from a grammatical
1:12:43 point of view
1:12:44 the kind of plural the majestic plural
1:12:46 we
1:12:47 that's in the first line then the second
1:12:49 verse allah says
1:12:53 therefore or so turn
1:12:57 to your prayer turn in prayer
1:13:00 to your lord turn to your lord in prayer
1:13:03 rob bicker
1:13:04 your lord in prayer and and sacrifice
1:13:08 for solely therefore pray for sally li
1:13:11 rob bicker
1:13:12 for your lord uh for sullivan
1:13:16 uh one half turn to your lord
1:13:19 and sacrifice
1:13:22 so this is very imp and now there is a
1:13:25 shift here what's the shift
1:13:26 in the first verse allah refers to
1:13:28 himself
1:13:29 from the kind of the the personal use of
1:13:32 the pronoun
1:13:33 the majestic plural we have given the
1:13:36 abundance
1:13:37 then there's a grammatical shift for
1:13:39 salli
1:13:43 yorab so there's a shift from we
1:13:46 to rabb your lord there is a shift in
1:13:49 reference in the referring to allah the
1:13:54 personal pronoun
1:13:56 the kind of shift in terms of majestic
1:13:59 plural
1:14:00 to the more intimate arab now why is
1:14:03 that shift in place this is not
1:14:05 linguistic ugliness
1:14:06 this is illiterate fact it's enhancing
1:14:09 the communicative effect of the message
1:14:11 because in the first verse it's about
1:14:13 ability allah says verily we we have
1:14:15 given you the abundance the al-qaeda
1:14:18 the river in paradise but it also comes
1:14:20 from cathara which you have
1:14:23 and so many things and you could see
1:14:24 this as a form of ellipsis as allah has
1:14:26 given
1:14:27 abundance not only the river in paradise
1:14:29 but many things to the process of
1:14:31 he's the most praised everyone is
1:14:33 praising the prophet
1:14:34 every micro second on this earth because
1:14:36 of the constant of on because the time
1:14:38 changes and people
1:14:39 praising the prophet sallallahu
1:14:43 so we could unpack that later but the
1:14:45 point here is
1:14:46 so allah is saying we have given you the
1:14:48 abundance so the majestic
1:14:50 plural is used for ability and this is
1:14:52 used in european literature as well the
1:14:54 we
1:14:55 kings would say we to indicate power and
1:14:57 ability
1:14:58 so it's enhancing that the meaning of
1:15:01 the first verse
1:15:02 but then it shifts to things like
1:15:04 spirituality and intimacy
1:15:10 to sacrifice prayer and sacrifice these
1:15:12 are intimate spiritual matters
1:15:14 so allah now is saying
1:15:18 therefore pray to your lord and
1:15:19 sacrifice allah is not saying
1:15:21 you know pray to us and sacrifice no
1:15:24 pray to your lord
1:15:25 because rabb is more intimate it means
1:15:27 your master your lord the one who
1:15:29 nurtures you the one who loves you no
1:15:30 one who cares for you
1:15:31 so this is enhancing the communicative
1:15:33 effect of the
1:15:34 second verse so this shift is not hazard
1:15:37 and when you study the quran and we
1:15:39 don't have time to do this
1:15:40 these shifts happen and they're in line
1:15:43 with the meaning
1:15:44 of the co-text the surrounding
1:15:47 linguistic
1:15:48 items around the verses and the
1:15:50 surrounding verses it's there to enhance
1:15:52 the cumulative
1:15:53 communicative effect of the message so
1:15:55 it's not linguistic ugliness
1:15:56 in all due respect theodore nordica
1:15:58 didn't know his arabic very well
1:16:02 so this leads us to their six premise
1:16:04 brothers and sisters the very important
1:16:05 premise brothers this is the sixth
1:16:07 premise so the six premises as follows
1:16:12 therefore from premise one to five the
1:16:14 quran is inimitable because
1:16:16 this is very simple to follow it follows
1:16:18 from points one to five that we just
1:16:19 discussed
1:16:20 premises one to five that the quran's
1:16:22 inimitability is justified
1:16:25 so now we it leads us to premise number
1:16:27 seven
1:16:28 the possible explanations for the
1:16:30 quran's inimitability
1:16:31 are authorship by an arab by a non-arab
1:16:35 by muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
1:16:37 or by allah
1:16:39 okay let's talk about this a little bit
1:16:40 further so these are the plausible
1:16:42 explanations this is what we're saying
1:16:44 to articulate the divine origins of the
1:16:46 quran without referring to specifics
1:16:48 about the arabic language
1:16:50 we're using testimony and inference okay
1:16:53 and we've already established
1:16:55 using testimony epistemology of
1:16:56 testimony that the quran is inimitable
1:17:00 by a valid testimonial transmission and
1:17:02 now
1:17:03 we're trying to infer from the
1:17:06 inimitability of the quran
1:17:07 which is based on valid testimony that
1:17:10 the quran can only be from god
1:17:12 and the possible explanations are that
1:17:14 it came from an arab
1:17:16 it came from another arab and it came
1:17:17 from oh it came from muhammad sallallahu
1:17:19 it came from allah
1:17:21 now however it can be argued there are
1:17:23 other possible competing explanations
1:17:25 but we don't know what they are well
1:17:26 hold on a second this is irrational
1:17:29 because this assertion commits a type of
1:17:31 fallacy that some have called
1:17:33 the fallacy of the phantom option it's a
1:17:35 ghost option
1:17:36 there may be another option we're just
1:17:37 not aware of it this is not rational
1:17:39 reasoning this is not
1:17:40 a valid use of the inference to the best
1:17:42 explanation if you do have another
1:17:44 explanation
1:17:45 bring on the table and let's discuss it
1:17:47 if you don't have a valid explanation
1:17:49 then deal with the explanations at hand
1:17:53 so premise number eight the premise
1:17:55 before the conclusion
1:17:57 it could not have been produced by an
1:17:58 arab it could not have been produced by
1:18:00 non-arab
1:18:01 and it could not have been produced by
1:18:02 muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
1:18:04 let's now
1:18:05 unpack this and get into this into
1:18:08 detail
1:18:09 first and foremost we know it could have
1:18:11 been produced by an arab because the
1:18:12 best linguist the seventh century abbs
1:18:14 of the time
1:18:15 admitted defeat for example al-waleed
1:18:17 ibn morirah
1:18:18 he was one of the famous linguists of
1:18:20 the time he actually admitted defeat
1:18:23 and he says and what can i say for i
1:18:25 swear by allah
1:18:27 there is none amongst you who knows
1:18:28 poetry as well as i do
1:18:30 nor can any compete with me in
1:18:32 composition or rhetoric
1:18:33 not even in the poetry of jinns and yet
1:18:35 i swear by allah
1:18:37 muhammad's speech meaning the quran does
1:18:40 not bear
1:18:40 bear any similarity to anything i know
1:18:44 and i swear by allah the speech that he
1:18:46 says is very sweet and is adorned with
1:18:48 beauty and charm
1:18:49 okay and one would argue why did he
1:18:51 become muslim well from what i remember
1:18:53 he didn't become muslim because he
1:18:55 thought that someone promised him
1:18:56 that him not being a muslim he still be
1:18:58 saved or something to that effect
1:19:00 such was the arrogance of such people
1:19:02 but the point is the best arabs admitted
1:19:04 defeat from that perspective and
1:19:05 remember what we said previously
1:19:07 from the argument that i i refer to that
1:19:11 that's in my book referring to the
1:19:12 chapter god's testimony
1:19:14 and just repeat
1:19:17 no movement can succeed if a claim
1:19:20 fundamental to its core is explicitly
1:19:22 proven false
1:19:23 the fact that the meccan leadership had
1:19:25 to resort to extreme campaigns
1:19:26 such as warfare and torture to attempt
1:19:29 to extinguish islam
1:19:30 demonstrates that the easy method of
1:19:33 refuting islam
1:19:34 which is meeting the quranic challenge
1:19:36 failed they couldn't do it they couldn't
1:19:38 produce it because remember as we read
1:19:40 out the rest of the
1:19:41 passage previously that the quran came
1:19:44 and refute the social political moral
1:19:46 realities of the arabs of the time and
1:19:48 this was affecting their lifestyle
1:19:50 their culture their economic activity
1:19:52 but
1:19:53 all they had to do and this is when
1:19:55 islam was weak
1:19:57 in his early stages all they had to do
1:19:58 is produce three lines like it no one
1:20:00 would have taken it seriously would have
1:20:01 been dismissed
1:20:03 but they know they they couldn't do it
1:20:05 and they knew they couldn't do it so
1:20:06 what did they do they resorted to war
1:20:08 and boycott and torture what does this
1:20:11 say
1:20:12 about the ability of the best hours of
1:20:14 the time that were best placed to
1:20:16 challenge the quran what does it mean
1:20:17 about
1:20:18 the inc that they were incapacitated of
1:20:20 course they were they couldn't imitate
1:20:22 the quranic discourse
1:20:23 so they failed to do so it and we could
1:20:25 argue
1:20:26 from that perspective it couldn't have
1:20:28 come from an arab because these were the
1:20:29 best arabs of the time
1:20:31 now one would argue what about today's
1:20:32 arab well hold on a second just from a
1:20:34 kind of
1:20:35 philosophical linguistic perspective we
1:20:37 can't even take this seriously
1:20:38 today's arab today's arab comes from a
1:20:41 linguistic culture
1:20:42 which is basically called a
1:20:44 heterogeneous culture
1:20:46 you know just as a crude example when
1:20:48 you go to egypt and you say
1:20:50 to uh and you and you you hear like a
1:20:52 mother saying
1:20:53 uh you know where is the phone she
1:20:56 should say something like aina hatif
1:20:58 where is the phone uh
1:21:00 but what she might say is ain't a
1:21:02 telephone
1:21:03 right or any television or where is the
1:21:06 tv
1:21:07 right so there's so much linguistic
1:21:08 boring i don't know wrong there was
1:21:09 linguistic boring of that at that time
1:21:11 as well
1:21:12 but the type of linguistic boring at the
1:21:14 time of the seventh century
1:21:16 was a linguistic boring that didn't
1:21:17 affect the purity of the language
1:21:19 and the internalization of the language
1:21:21 because those though that linguistic
1:21:22 boring
1:21:23 became part of the arabic language and
1:21:25 this is well known because there are
1:21:26 some
1:21:26 you know foreign origin words in the
1:21:29 quran such as jannam i believe in other
1:21:31 words
1:21:31 but those words were already naturalized
1:21:34 there was a naturalization process
1:21:36 but when it comes to today's arabic we
1:21:37 have this kind of
1:21:39 less pure environment linguistic
1:21:40 environment it's not homogeneous it's
1:21:42 heterogeneous
1:21:43 as i've just discussed and therefore
1:21:46 naturally
1:21:46 you know someone's natural expression of
1:21:48 the arabic language is not going to be
1:21:50 anywhere near
1:21:51 the seventh century arabs also what we
1:21:53 said in the beginning about the culture
1:21:55 and the social political linguistic
1:21:57 environment of the time
1:21:58 facilitated people to become masters in
1:22:01 arabic
1:22:01 we don't have that today from that
1:22:03 perspective so to say today's arab
1:22:05 is actually completely unfounded and one
1:22:07 would have to claim
1:22:08 better expression and intuitive and
1:22:11 natural expression of the arabic
1:22:12 language
1:22:13 than the 7th century arabs which is
1:22:14 totally unfounded
1:22:17 so we know it could have come from an
1:22:18 arab what about a non-arab
1:22:20 well the quran mentions this very
1:22:22 clearly in chapter 16 verse 103
1:22:24 and indeed we know that what they that
1:22:26 they that they the politicians and
1:22:27 pagans say
1:22:28 it is only a human being who teaches him
1:22:30 meaning muhammad
1:22:32 the the tongue of the man they referred
1:22:33 to is foreign but this speech is
1:22:37 this is clear arabic now this is so true
1:22:40 and non-arab couldn't produce the quran
1:22:43 because
1:22:44 it had to come from an arab right you
1:22:47 have to know arabic to try and produce
1:22:49 anything like the book of allah
1:22:51 subhanahu wa ta'ala
1:22:53 so this is extremely important for us to
1:22:55 you know
1:22:56 understand now one would argue about if
1:22:58 a non-arab learn the act
1:23:00 learn the language now that would that
1:23:02 would make the person arabic speaker and
1:23:03 therefore would refer
1:23:05 to the previous point we just made
1:23:07 however and this is very interesting
1:23:08 in linguistics there are differences
1:23:10 between native and non-native speakers
1:23:13 of language
1:23:14 as various academic studies and applied
1:23:16 linguistics
1:23:17 and similar fields have concluded for
1:23:19 instance in the english language there
1:23:21 are differences between native and
1:23:22 non-native speakers
1:23:23 in reliably discriminating between
1:23:25 literal and idiomatic speech
1:23:28 differences exist between english
1:23:30 speakers with one non-native parent
1:23:32 and those with native parents the
1:23:34 speakers with one non-native parent
1:23:35 exhibit worse linguistic performance on
1:23:37 certain tasks than those with native
1:23:39 parents
1:23:40 even in cases of non-native speakers
1:23:42 having indistinguishable
1:23:44 indistinguishable linguistic competence
1:23:46 with native speakers there are still
1:23:47 subtle linguistic differences so
1:23:50 research conducted by kenneth
1:23:53 haldensterm and nicholas abrahamson
1:23:56 in who can who can
1:24:00 become native like in a second language
1:24:02 all some or none
1:24:04 concluded that competent non-native
1:24:06 speakers exhibit features
1:24:08 that are imperceptible except under
1:24:10 detailed and systematic linguistic
1:24:12 analysis
1:24:13 therefore to conclude that the quran
1:24:15 with this inimitable features
1:24:16 as a linguistic masterpiece is a product
1:24:18 of a non-arab or non-native speaker
1:24:21 is untenable so the next option maybe it
1:24:25 came from the prophet
1:24:26 sallallahu alaihi was sent them right
1:24:29 well there's a few things to say this is
1:24:31 this is impossible number one he was an
1:24:33 arab
1:24:33 right and the best arabs failed to
1:24:35 produce anything like it
1:24:37 so logically it follows he didn't
1:24:39 produce the quran
1:24:40 secondly after the initial accusations
1:24:43 that
1:24:44 the the arab lingua is after the initial
1:24:46 accusations that he produced the quran
1:24:49 when they started to understand the
1:24:50 literary power of the quran
1:24:52 and the literary inimitability of the
1:24:54 quran the arabic linguist
1:24:55 never accused him of being the author in
1:24:57 actual fact they said it was magic
1:24:59 also we have to understand that the
1:25:00 quran is a literary masterpiece
1:25:03 the quran is a literary
1:25:06 masterpiece and with all literary
1:25:09 masterpieces brothers and sisters
1:25:11 we have to understand that you know
1:25:14 literary masterpieces are not revealed
1:25:17 instantaneously
1:25:19 right they're revealed over a particular
1:25:20 time with careful
1:25:22 amendment careful expression careful
1:25:25 articulation
1:25:27 careful addition careful revision and so
1:25:30 on and so forth
1:25:31 no one produces a literary masterpiece
1:25:34 as sustained
1:25:35 instantaneous eloquence but the quran as
1:25:37 it was revealed
1:25:38 it it it stayed the same it wasn't
1:25:41 edited
1:25:42 it wasn't changed even in abrogation
1:25:44 when we talk about abrogation in the
1:25:46 quranic discourse
1:25:47 the verses the abrogate are still in the
1:25:49 quran and is still part of the literary
1:25:51 excellence of the quranic discourse
1:25:53 there was no there was no stylistic
1:25:56 editing there's no editing with regards
1:25:58 to rhetoric and eloquence
1:25:59 yet it's known to be a literary
1:26:01 masterpiece but literally masterpieces
1:26:03 are developed over time
1:26:04 with addition and revision but the quran
1:26:07 as the literary masterpiece as it was
1:26:08 revealed it
1:26:09 remained how could this be a human being
1:26:12 from a human being
1:26:13 how can it be from muhammad sallallahu
1:26:15 alaihi because
1:26:17 the human reality when it comes to
1:26:18 literary masterpieces that you edit
1:26:20 change revise but the quran
1:26:24 as a literary masterpiece was no
1:26:26 addition no revision
1:26:29 also we have to understand the
1:26:30 psycholinguistic content of the quran
1:26:31 now we can't unpack this right now but
1:26:33 it does require further study
1:26:35 but when you do a psycholinguistic
1:26:36 analysis of the quranic discourse
1:26:38 you see it's in the divine voice how can
1:26:41 this be the case
1:26:43 if it was the words of the process
1:26:44 solemn then you would see from a
1:26:46 psycholinguistic perspective
1:26:48 under careful linguistic analysis you
1:26:50 see subtle
1:26:51 linguistic emotional cues to indicate it
1:26:54 came from a man
1:26:55 to indicate came from the process to
1:26:57 reflect his life
1:26:58 because his life was peaks and troughs
1:27:00 we know he was boycotted and
1:27:02 tortured and abused and his sahaba
1:27:03 passed away his wife passed away his
1:27:05 children died
1:27:06 he went to war and so on and so forth
1:27:08 all of this emotion cannot be found in
1:27:10 the quranic discourse from a human
1:27:12 perspective
1:27:13 when you do a psycholinguistic study and
1:27:15 psycholinguistics is part of
1:27:16 it's a domain of knowledge when you do a
1:27:18 psycholinguistic study of the quran it
1:27:20 remains in the divine voice
1:27:22 how can this be the case how can you
1:27:24 have such a distinction
1:27:25 how can you have such a
1:27:26 psycho-linguistic distinction between
1:27:28 the prophetic statements
1:27:30 and the quran if you claim the quran
1:27:32 came from the prophet sallallahu alaihi
1:27:34 wasallam this is impossible
1:27:36 but finally this is one it's a it's a
1:27:38 defeating argument it defeats this
1:27:40 argument so called that the prophet
1:27:43 actually produced the quran
1:27:46 if the blueprint exists you can imitate
1:27:48 it any form of expression
1:27:50 literary expression artistic impression
1:27:53 expression
1:27:53 if you have the blueprint the tools at
1:27:56 your disposal
1:27:57 you are able to produce it we'd see this
1:28:00 with art
1:28:01 with uh impressionism or
1:28:03 post-impressionism with the art of monet
1:28:05 or whoever the case may be
1:28:06 when you have the blueprint you have the
1:28:10 the tools at your disposal you could
1:28:12 actually
1:28:13 now reproduce reproduce and that's why
1:28:16 many replicas are very very expensive
1:28:19 from an artistic perspective now
1:28:22 we have the blueprint today which is the
1:28:24 quran we have the tools at our disposal
1:28:26 which are the finite 28 letters
1:28:28 and we have the grammatical rules but we
1:28:30 can't put this together to produce
1:28:32 anything like the quadratic discourse if
1:28:34 it was human expression
1:28:35 and if the blueprint exists and the
1:28:37 tools at our disposal exists
1:28:38 we can exhaust those tools or use those
1:28:40 tools to produce
1:28:42 uh that expression but given the fact
1:28:44 that the quran's blueprint exists
1:28:46 and the tools exist namely the grammar
1:28:48 the letters and so on and so forth
1:28:50 we can't use them to produce anything
1:28:52 like the quran and the arabs were best
1:28:54 placed to do so in the 7th century
1:28:56 couldn't do so either so this means it
1:28:58 cannot come from a human being because
1:28:59 if it came from a human being and the
1:29:01 blueprint exists
1:29:02 and the tools exist then we should be
1:29:05 able to replicate it
1:29:06 but it wasn't imitated in any shape or
1:29:09 form
1:29:10 so it couldn't have come from the
1:29:12 prophet
1:29:16 now what's very important for everybody
1:29:19 to understand is
1:29:21 that you know trying to conclude that
1:29:25 well the way to argue this is to show
1:29:26 that the person was like a literary
1:29:28 genius
1:29:29 well how can you make such a claim how
1:29:31 can you say that the person is
1:29:33 is a genius that's like an argument that
1:29:36 doesn't really make sense by virtue of
1:29:37 what we've just discussed
1:29:38 it's unfounded why because remember
1:29:41 literary geniuses
1:29:43 what they do is when they produce
1:29:45 excellent work
1:29:46 they edit amend and improve the work as
1:29:48 we just discussed previously
1:29:50 this was not the case with the quran and
1:29:52 all human expressions can be imitated if
1:29:55 we have the blueprint
1:29:56 and tools at our disposal as we just
1:29:58 discussed and this has been shown for
1:30:00 geniuses such as
1:30:01 shakespeare and al-mutanabbi
1:30:05 if the quran had been a result of
1:30:07 muhammad some genius
1:30:09 it should be able to be imitated by
1:30:10 virtue what we discussed concerning the
1:30:12 blueprint and the tools
1:30:13 at our disposal
1:30:18 so
1:30:20 this is something very important for us
1:30:22 to to to highlight and discuss
1:30:24 so and that's why when you say oh what
1:30:26 about shakespeare what about
1:30:28 well shakespeare didn't have sustained
1:30:31 unedited
1:30:32 and unchanged unmatched eloquence
1:30:36 didn't have sustained unedited and
1:30:38 unchanged unmatched eloquence
1:30:40 but the quran had sustained unedited and
1:30:44 unmatched eloquence or unmatched
1:30:46 superior literary
1:30:47 features and that's why you can't claim
1:30:49 he is a genius
1:30:51 from that perspective because genius is
1:30:54 when they produce a linguistic
1:30:57 expression or linguistic work or
1:30:59 literary work it's
1:31:01 it's it's a sustained effort
1:31:04 but it's edited and amended over time
1:31:07 but with regards to the quran it was
1:31:09 sustained
1:31:10 unmatched eloquence sustained
1:31:13 unmatched and unedited eloquence which
1:31:15 is not a feature of any literature
1:31:17 genius
1:31:18 especially concerning the size of
1:31:21 the book of the the the quran itself
1:31:24 so finally our conclusion brothers and
1:31:26 sisters
1:31:28 god is the only best explanation since
1:31:30 the quran could not have been produced
1:31:31 by an arab
1:31:32 it could not have been used could not
1:31:34 have been produced by non-arab or the
1:31:35 prophet sallallahu alaihi
1:31:37 wasallam it follows that the best
1:31:39 explanation
1:31:40 is that it came from allah
1:31:44 this provides the best explanation for
1:31:46 the quran's inimitability
1:31:47 because the other explanations are
1:31:49 untenable
1:31:50 in light of the available knowledge and
1:31:52 the background knowledge
1:31:54 now why would i get this stage what
1:31:55 about alternative inferences
1:31:58 you know you know alternative inferences
1:32:00 could include
1:32:01 that the quran is best explained by a
1:32:03 higher being
1:32:04 or that it could have come from the
1:32:07 devil
1:32:08 as as some of our christian brothers
1:32:11 and sisters actually say but this is
1:32:14 unfounded brothers and sisters
1:32:16 because the reason it's unfounding is
1:32:19 that look
1:32:20 postulating that the quran comes from a
1:32:22 higher being
1:32:24 seems to be a semantic replacement for
1:32:26 god this is like a good replacement
1:32:27 right also what is meant by a higher
1:32:30 being
1:32:32 is not the best explanation of a higher
1:32:33 being god himself
1:32:35 if higher being implies a greater
1:32:37 linguistic power capacity and ability
1:32:39 than a human
1:32:40 then who can best fit these criteria
1:32:42 than god himself
1:32:44 also if you want what you need to
1:32:46 understand as well
1:32:48 is that you know when we have separate
1:32:50 evidences for god's existence we also
1:32:52 understand that it's very likely that
1:32:53 that god will only communicate with us
1:32:55 this follows from the fact that not only
1:32:57 is allah or god the creator and designer
1:32:59 of the entire cosmos that we inhabit
1:33:01 but he also made it fit for our
1:33:03 existence in addition he created us with
1:33:04 souls or consciousness
1:33:06 and instilled a sense of morality so
1:33:07 clearly god is very extremely invested
1:33:11 in our existence and flourish
1:33:13 so as such it's it's extremely likely
1:33:16 that he would want to communicate to us
1:33:17 in the form of revelation
1:33:19 so this this is very important when you
1:33:21 say high being it's a semantic
1:33:22 replacement of god and high being is
1:33:23 very ambiguous is this another phantom
1:33:25 option
1:33:26 is this the fallacy of the phantom
1:33:27 option okay what is this high being
1:33:29 right we've given you a really good
1:33:31 explanation which is god himself
1:33:33 what is this higher being right or is
1:33:36 this just another phantom option right
1:33:38 which is a logical fallacy as we
1:33:40 discussed in the beginning now there is
1:33:41 a
1:33:42 theistic response to this like many
1:33:44 christians or christian brothers and
1:33:45 sisters would say
1:33:46 that maybe the quran came from the devil
1:33:49 well this explanation is untenable as
1:33:50 well
1:33:51 and listen and i've and i've written
1:33:52 this in the book that you can download
1:33:54 for free on our website the quran could
1:33:57 not have come from the devil or some
1:33:59 type of spirit
1:34:00 because the basis of their existence is
1:34:03 in
1:34:03 the quran in revelation itself not in
1:34:06 empiric not empirical evidence
1:34:08 therefore if someone claims that the
1:34:09 source of the quran and is the devil
1:34:11 they would have to prove that his in
1:34:14 other words the devil's existence
1:34:15 and ultimately would have to prove
1:34:17 revelation in the case of using the
1:34:19 quran as the revelation to establish
1:34:21 that there was existence
1:34:22 then that would already establish the
1:34:24 divine text
1:34:25 it would establish it as a divine text
1:34:27 because to believe in the devil's
1:34:28 existence would presuppose the quran to
1:34:30 be divine and therefore this contention
1:34:33 is self-defeating
1:34:34 if however the revelation that you refer
1:34:36 to is the bible
1:34:37 it must it must be shown to be valid it
1:34:41 must be shown to be a valid basis to
1:34:42 justify the belief in the devil
1:34:45 now with all due respect you can't use
1:34:46 the bible to justify the belief in
1:34:47 anything
1:34:48 in my view because in light of
1:34:50 contemporary studies in the textual
1:34:51 integrity and historicity
1:34:53 and historicity of the bible this is not
1:34:55 feasible
1:34:56 also for a further content analysis of
1:34:59 the quran will strongly indicate that
1:35:01 the book is not the teachings of the
1:35:02 devil as the quran rebukes him and
1:35:04 promotes
1:35:05 morals and ethics not in line with an
1:35:07 evil world
1:35:08 view so in conclusion
1:35:11 brothers and sisters we have formulated
1:35:14 a powerful argument
1:35:16 developed eight premises with a
1:35:17 conclusion
1:35:19 which rests upon the background
1:35:21 information and understanding of
1:35:22 epistemology of testimony and inference
1:35:24 of the best explanation
1:35:25 and we really haven't even referred to
1:35:29 any of the special features linguistic
1:35:32 features in the quranic discourse
1:35:34 and you're able to articulate this to
1:35:38 to non-muslims and and people who don't
1:35:41 have the expertise and even to
1:35:43 to non-arabs and let me just summarize
1:35:45 this argument for you to see how easy
1:35:48 you can summarize this uh with regards
1:35:50 to
1:35:51 the tao with regards to articulating
1:35:53 this to our brothers and sisters
1:35:55 in humanity so
1:35:58 it it could be done just in a couple
1:36:01 couple of paragraphs
1:36:07 the quran was revealed in arabia to the
1:36:08 prophet muhammed
1:36:10 7th century in the 7th century this
1:36:12 period was known as an era of literature
1:36:14 and linguistic perfection
1:36:16 the 7th century arabs were socialized
1:36:18 into being a people who were best
1:36:19 who were the best at expressing
1:36:20 themselves in their native tongue they
1:36:22 would celebrate when a poet was among
1:36:24 them amongst them and all they knew was
1:36:25 poetry
1:36:26 they would start with poetry and end
1:36:28 with poetry the cultivation of poetic
1:36:31 skills and linguistic
1:36:32 mastery was everything for them it was
1:36:34 the oxygen and lifeblood
1:36:37 they could not live or function without
1:36:38 the perfection of the linguistic
1:36:39 abilities
1:36:40 however when the quran was recited to
1:36:43 them they lost their breath
1:36:44 they were dumbfounded incapacitated and
1:36:46 stunned by the silence of the greatest
1:36:48 experts
1:36:48 they could not produce anything like the
1:36:50 quranic discourse it got worse
1:36:52 the quran challenged these linguists par
1:36:54 excellence to imitate
1:36:56 its unique literary linguistic features
1:36:57 but they failed some experts
1:37:00 accepted the quran was from god but most
1:37:02 reported to boycott war murder torture
1:37:05 and a campaign of misinformation
1:37:07 in fact throughout the centuries experts
1:37:09 have acquired the tools to
1:37:10 challenge the quran and they too have
1:37:12 testified the quran is inevitable
1:37:14 and appreciate why the best linguists
1:37:16 have failed however
1:37:18 can a non-arab or non-expert of the
1:37:19 arabic language appreciate the
1:37:21 inimitability of the quran
1:37:23 and to now the role of testimony the
1:37:25 above assertions are based on an
1:37:26 established written oral testimonial
1:37:28 transmission of knowledge
1:37:29 from past and present scholars of the
1:37:31 arabic language if this is true
1:37:33 and the people best place to challenge
1:37:34 the quran failed to imitate the
1:37:36 divine discourse then who is the author
1:37:39 this is where testimony stops
1:37:41 and the use of inference begins in order
1:37:43 to understand the inference of the best
1:37:44 explanation the possible
1:37:46 rationalizations of the quran's
1:37:47 inimitable nature
1:37:48 must be analyzed these include that it
1:37:50 was authored by an arab
1:37:52 and non-arab muhammad considering all
1:37:55 the facts that
1:37:56 that we discussed so far it is
1:37:58 implausible that the quran's
1:37:59 inadmittability
1:38:00 can be explained by attributing it to an
1:38:02 arab and non-arab or muhammad
1:38:04 sallallahu alaihi he was still in for
1:38:06 that reason
1:38:07 god is the inference to the best
1:38:09 explanation and that's a summary of
1:38:10 everything that we've unpacked today so
1:38:12 far
1:38:13 so after 1 hour and 38 minutes and
1:38:17 17 seconds brothers and sisters let's
1:38:20 now take some questions
1:38:31 okay so
1:38:44 there's some really funny questions so
1:38:48 yeah this this this that's uh let's be
1:38:51 um
1:38:52 let's be a mature here right so um
1:38:56 let's get some questions so if you if
1:38:58 you don't mind start asking some
1:38:59 questions now
1:39:23 okay so i'm just waiting for some
1:39:24 questions there seems to be a slight
1:39:26 delay
1:39:30 why does georges rhyme with gorgeous
1:39:32 that's very funny
1:39:33 uh let's keep your professional mature
1:39:38 please
1:39:42 uh okay so muhammad says this argument
1:39:45 this argument
1:39:45 is so watertight i i don't think there
1:39:48 are any questions subhanallah
1:39:50 well there's always questions there's
1:39:52 always questions
1:40:02 okay so there's not many any questions
1:40:05 um okay there's one question here i
1:40:06 believe okay very good so
1:40:09 oh it's disappeared so the question here
1:40:11 is
1:40:12 i recall reading somewhere that the
1:40:13 hadith language is very different from
1:40:15 the arabic language very
1:40:16 similar very few similarities and words
1:40:18 have you heard this as well
1:40:20 in actual fact i have got a video on
1:40:21 this is a very old video with me and
1:40:22 sabor
1:40:23 we cite a actual linguistic a linguistic
1:40:26 study in a paper which was very good it
1:40:28 did like a kind of linguistic
1:40:29 statistical analysis between bukhari and
1:40:32 the quran
1:40:32 and it concluded just based on the kind
1:40:36 of um
1:40:37 statistics that they that they that they
1:40:40 came up with that it shows that it was
1:40:43 completely two different authors
1:40:45 and now obviously like with most
1:40:47 academic studies the reason i haven't
1:40:48 referred to this study because
1:40:50 there were some you know kind of
1:40:51 academic limitations to the methodology
1:40:54 of the study
1:40:55 but yes you're right and when we do a
1:40:57 study of the hadith literature
1:40:59 when you do a study even from a
1:41:01 statistical perspective on the use of
1:41:03 words
1:41:04 and the style and the stylistics of the
1:41:06 particular
1:41:07 hadith literature whether it's in
1:41:09 bukhari or muslim whatever the case may
1:41:10 be
1:41:11 you see there is a clear distinction
1:41:13 between the quranic discourse
1:41:15 and the hadith of the prophet
1:41:20 uh and this is very important to
1:41:22 understand and one would argue well this
1:41:23 doesn't make it
1:41:24 you know from god no we're not saying
1:41:26 that but it's one
1:41:27 it's one of the features it's one of the
1:41:29 criteria of ensuring that it didn't come
1:41:31 from the prophet sallallahu alaihi
1:41:32 wasallam
1:41:33 that that there is that clear
1:41:34 distinction yes we know you know normal
1:41:36 human beings
1:41:37 they have different uh use of language
1:41:40 and statistical
1:41:41 linguistic variants and so on and so
1:41:42 forth when they do when they sing when
1:41:44 they
1:41:45 write songs on when they recite poetry
1:41:47 or when they
1:41:49 um you know if they're rappers for
1:41:52 example there is a distinct style
1:41:54 but yet from a statistical linguistic
1:41:56 point of view there are
1:41:58 you know one would argue many
1:41:59 similarities from their normal speech
1:42:01 and from the speech if they're rapping
1:42:03 or singing or reciting poetry
1:42:05 but you know when when it comes to the
1:42:08 quranic discourse there is a very very
1:42:10 clear distinction
1:42:11 um and that's it doesn't mean it's from
1:42:13 god but it's a very important thing to
1:42:15 mention
1:42:16 because if there was similarities in you
1:42:19 know linguistic
1:42:20 uh in statistical uh
1:42:23 uh use of certain words and there was a
1:42:26 similarity
1:42:27 in stylistic uh variants and style and
1:42:30 so on and so forth
1:42:31 then it'll be very problematic to say
1:42:33 that it came from god because it looks
1:42:35 like
1:42:36 very very similar to the prophet's words
1:42:39 but given the fact that there is a clear
1:42:41 distinction between prophetic narrative
1:42:44 and quranic narrative then this is
1:42:45 extremely helpful and there has been
1:42:47 some research on this um and i ha and i
1:42:50 have
1:42:50 cited that research previously but i
1:42:52 removed it because
1:42:54 an academic uh show to me there were
1:42:55 some methodological issues i i don't
1:42:57 think they were major
1:42:58 but it's always best to be robust but
1:43:00 your point is very true
1:43:01 and it's a very key point which i should
1:43:03 have mentioned and jazakallah bless you
1:43:22 this
1:43:33 yes it's very good very good question so
1:43:36 wouldn't
1:43:37 the method by which the quran was
1:43:39 revealed many times on the spot
1:43:41 to address questions social social
1:43:43 social political issues etc become part
1:43:44 of the chronic challenge
1:43:45 it is part of the chronic challenges and
1:43:48 you know at sapiens institute we're
1:43:49 developing a course
1:43:51 to basically um articulate the veracity
1:43:54 of the quran
1:43:55 this is one argument but we have an
1:43:57 argument concerning its structural
1:43:58 coherence
1:43:59 and this is very important for us to
1:44:01 understand because you know the quran is
1:44:03 revealed many of its verses were
1:44:04 revealed for specific time and place
1:44:06 for specific issues and circumstances
1:44:09 and many of these verses address those
1:44:10 issues yet
1:44:11 the quran has come together in a
1:44:13 coherent literary structural piece in a
1:44:15 structural way
1:44:16 and very very very coherent and you know
1:44:19 for example we have things like
1:44:20 ring composition and other structural
1:44:22 coherent features literary features
1:44:25 and you know one would argue that's not
1:44:27 very special because people have
1:44:28 coherent writing all the time yeah for
1:44:30 sure
1:44:31 but the nature of his coherence is quite
1:44:33 specific i.e
1:44:34 ring ring composition and other aspects
1:44:37 but
1:44:38 it it it was done so with
1:44:41 with you know it's done so you have to
1:44:44 understand it was done so
1:44:45 with the idea or from the perspective
1:44:48 that many of the verses were revealed
1:44:49 for specific time in places yet they
1:44:51 formed a coherent piece a deep
1:44:53 structural coherent piece from a
1:44:55 literary perspective
1:44:56 this is phenomenal why because it means
1:44:58 the author knew the future
1:45:00 that's what it means because
1:45:04 how can you develop a literary
1:45:06 structural piece when you're
1:45:08 addressing specific situations across a
1:45:10 particular period of time
1:45:13 in order for you to be able to do that
1:45:15 it means you already
1:45:16 knew what was going to happen and you
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1:45:19 provided those verses or those responses
1:45:22 in a way that would create
1:45:24 uh that type of structural coherence
1:45:27 and there's a really good book by
1:45:29 muhammad abdullah draz
1:45:31 it's called the eternal challenge and he
1:45:33 discusses he's got a beautiful quote
1:45:35 a beautiful quote concerning the
1:45:37 structural features
1:45:39 of the quranic discourse i don't know if
1:45:42 i put it in my book i should have
1:45:43 it's just it's phenomenal um let me see
1:45:46 if i can find it
1:45:47 just bear with me it's concerning the
1:45:49 kind of structural features
1:45:51 of uh of the quran and this point that
1:45:54 i've just made and he's made
1:45:55 he made it in a much eloquent way uh
1:45:58 when he talked about
1:45:59 you know how on earth could uh
1:46:02 the the prophet sallallahu alaihi he was
1:46:07 how could on earth the quran be from a
1:46:08 man from a human being
1:46:11 based on on what we just said actually
1:46:13 let me try
1:46:14 let me try and find it online because i
1:46:17 i do believe
1:46:18 i have referenced it on uh in another
1:46:21 essay
1:46:21 or somewhere else uh just bear with me
1:46:25 lot but i really want to read it it's a
1:46:27 beautiful quote
1:46:28 um coherence and
1:46:35 it's it's a beautiful beautiful um
1:46:39 the type of my saying as well because it
1:46:41 might come together
1:46:42 because i have referenced it bear with
1:46:45 me
1:46:46 yes i think it's here there's a pdf
1:46:53 okay so let me just find a few
1:46:56 all right search
1:47:01 yeah here we go are you ready guys
1:47:05 when we consider carefully the timing of
1:47:07 the revelation of the quranic passages
1:47:09 and surahs and the arrangements
1:47:11 we are profoundly astonished we almost
1:47:14 belie what we see
1:47:16 and hear we then begin to ask ourselves
1:47:18 for an explanation of this highly
1:47:20 improbable phenomenon
1:47:21 is it not true that this new passage of
1:47:23 revelation has just been heard as new
1:47:26 addressing a particular event which is
1:47:29 its only concern
1:47:30 yet it sounds as though it is neither
1:47:33 new nor separate from the rest
1:47:35 it seems as if it has been along with
1:47:37 the rest of the quran
1:47:38 perfectly impressed on this man's mind
1:47:40 long before he has recited it to us
1:47:43 it has been fully engraved on his heart
1:47:46 before its composition
1:47:48 in the words he recites how else can it
1:47:50 unite so perfectly and harmoniously
1:47:53 parts and pieces that do not naturally
1:47:54 come together is it a result of an
1:47:57 experiment that follows a spontaneous
1:47:58 thought that could not be the case
1:48:01 when each part was put in his position
1:48:03 the one who placed them
1:48:04 never had a new thought introduced any
1:48:06 modification or rearrangement
1:48:08 how then could he have determined his
1:48:09 player how could he have
1:48:11 made his intention so clear in advance
1:48:13 when we consider such detailed
1:48:15 instructions
1:48:16 on the arrangements of passages and
1:48:17 surahs we are bound to conclude that
1:48:19 there is a complete and detailed plan
1:48:21 assigning the position of each passage
1:48:24 before they are all revealed
1:48:26 indeed the arrangement is made before
1:48:29 the reasons leading to the revelation of
1:48:31 any passage occur
1:48:33 and even before the start of the
1:48:34 preliminary causes of such events
1:48:37 such are the plain facts about the
1:48:38 arrangement of the quran as it was
1:48:40 revealed in
1:48:40 separate verses passages and surahs over
1:48:43 a period of 23 years
1:48:45 what does that tell us about its source
1:48:48 brothers and sisters what else can i say
1:48:49 that was the eloquent words of sheikh
1:48:51 muhammad
1:48:51 abdullah and subhanallah
1:49:02 absolutely boom islam is true that's
1:49:05 what big boss says
1:49:08 maryam says allahu akbar indeed allah is
1:49:12 greater
1:49:26 so
1:49:31 okay so brothers and sisters in order
1:49:32 for you to get all the references in the
1:49:35 slides
1:49:36 all you need to do is go to sapience
1:49:38 institute.org forward slash books and
1:49:40 download the divine reality
1:49:42 and go to chapter 13 i think it's
1:49:44 chapter 13.
1:49:45 and i have an essay called god's
1:49:47 testimony
1:49:49 and it's everything i've mentioned is
1:49:51 mentioned this essay with a little bit
1:49:52 more
1:49:53 and it's got all the references for you
1:49:55 brothers and sisters okay
1:49:57 so without further ado i uh i need to go
1:50:00 now may allah bless you
1:50:03 it's phenomenal i'm going to do more of
1:50:04 these inshallah please give us your
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1:50:07 please share this with people you know
1:50:09 this is we provide this content for free
1:50:12 you know if you you know i think you
1:50:13 appreciate that it's nuanced
1:50:15 it's uh philosophically robust it's well
1:50:17 referenced there's a lot of research
1:50:18 that's gone behind this it is you know
1:50:21 hopefully
1:50:22 uh timeless from the point of view that
1:50:25 it's not based on certain evidences that
1:50:27 we know today
1:50:28 it's based on you know on on concepts
1:50:31 and first principles and evidences
1:50:33 that are not going to necessarily change
1:50:35 in any shape or form
1:50:36 and therefore it's a timeless argument
1:50:38 that we can use today tomorrow and in
1:50:40 the future
1:50:40 our job is to internalize it and be able
1:50:42 to articulate on a popular level and
1:50:44 academic and intellectual and mid-range
1:50:46 level as well
1:50:47 but that's your job to continue the
1:50:48 journey so this is just part of the
1:50:50 journey
1:50:51 please download the book read the
1:50:52 particular chapter
1:50:54 go to the references understand this
1:50:56 argument revisit
1:50:58 this seminar even further again
1:51:01 revisit again brothers and sisters and i
1:51:03 pray you know it's inspired you
1:51:05 in in in some way and uh
1:51:08 you know we're gonna have we're gonna do
1:51:10 these academic webinars
1:51:11 inshallah every week uh the first one
1:51:14 was
1:51:15 on beauty god god
1:51:18 god's beauty and uh the recognition of
1:51:22 god
1:51:22 last week was by that was by far
1:51:26 this week last week was by dr utman the
1:51:28 teeth and he was i can't
1:51:29 i can't breathe on empathy
1:51:31 dehumanization othering
1:51:33 and racism today it was on the
1:51:37 god's testimony articulating the
1:51:39 linguistic miracle of the quran in
1:51:41 in in a way that doesn't require you or
1:51:43 the person that you're talking to
1:51:44 to know anything about the arabic
1:51:46 language and it rests upon
1:51:48 the epistemology of testimony and
1:51:49 inference to the best explanation and
1:51:51 next week we're going to have a special
1:51:52 one for you as well in sha
1:51:54 allah so brothers and sisters may allah
1:51:57 bless every single one of you and
1:51:58 grant you the best in this life and the
1:52:00 best in the life to come
1:52:02 um and you know stay safe
1:52:06 stay peaceful stay
1:52:10 well be good to each other love for
1:52:12 others
1:52:13 for yourself which is a sahih hadith
1:52:15 from the prophet sallam narrated by
1:52:16 bukhari
1:52:18 and and the specific arabic is not it's
1:52:21 not just your brother it says
1:52:23 human beings and we know this means if
1:52:25 you go to the works of anawi
1:52:27 and maliki scholar even this means that
1:52:30 we must be committed to the goodness and
1:52:31 guidance for all people
1:52:33 and that's what muslims should be
1:52:36 should be that's our state of being so
1:52:39 anything i've said that is
1:52:40 good has come from allah anything wrong
1:52:43 or bad it's come from my ego my nose
1:52:50 is