Reacting to Dr. Zakir Naik's Scientific Miracles #1 (2017-10-20) ​

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The first of a series of videos assessing the scientific miracle narrative propounded by many Daaee's .

Sheikh Abu Safiyyah Mohammed Osman's channel - http://youtube.com/c/AbuSafiyyahMohammedOsman

Summary of Reacting to Dr. Zakir Naik's Scientific Miracles #1 ​

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discusses scientific miracles mentioned in the Quran, with a focus on the Big Bang theory. It goes through several scientific miracles claimed by Zakir Naik and suggests that Muslims use a watertight argument when debating these ideas.

00:00:00 Discusses scientific miracles attributed to Quranic scripture, with focus on creation of the original universe. notes that the Big Bang theory can be found in Quranic scripture and that the modern day propagation of Zakir Naik's ideas has had a large impact on people. They go through several scientific miracles claimed by Zakir Naik, and conclude that these are all subject to criticism. They suggest that Muslims use a watertight argument when debating these ideas.

• 00:05:00 Dr. Zakir Naik discusses some of the scientific miracles mentioned in the Quran, and how they could be interpreted. There is much disagreement amongst scholars as to which of these miracles are true, and which are just theories. Nonetheless, Dr. Naik insists that any of these miracles could be proven true through scientific observation.
• 00:10:00 The narrator discusses Dr. Zakir Naik's scientific miracles, and discusses how there are different interpretations of the verse. One possible interpretation is that the verse refers to the creation of the heavens and earth, and that after these creations were completed, the earth was spread out. Another possible interpretation is that the verse refers to the condition of the earth, and that it comes from one source.
• 00:15:00 Discusses how Dr. Zakir Naik's scientific miracles could be interpreted in a way that is compatible with modern scientific discourse. It goes on to say that if one takes science as a good yardstick for truth, the Quran is the most closely correlated ancient religion to the scientific discourse.
• 00:20:00 In this first episode of a two-part series, Dr. Zakir Naik talks about how science has discovered that there are bridges of matter in interstellar space, and that this plasma can be considered as the fourth type of matter. He also discusses how Geo Centricity (the belief that the rotations of the heavens and the earth are the most important thing) differs from traditional healers, and how it has been a source of controversy for some people.

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0:00:01 [Music]0:00:08 Jamia 30 miss Vilar another human is and0:00:12 gentlemen and welcome to our first0:00:14 episode of our assessment of the0:00:17 scientific miracles narrative basically0:00:20 as a precursor first of all let me0:00:23 introduce you I also fear how you do0:00:27 that I'm good not good to thank you know0:00:30 our pleasure man I've got another video0:00:32 of you in one of other videos welcome to0:00:37 just now what we're doing and before we0:00:39 start is what we're doing is we're going0:00:41 through systematically the claims made0:00:43 by both Muslim propagandists and0:00:45 non-muslim propagandists to try and0:00:48 assert that there is what they would0:00:50 refer to as a either scientific miracles0:00:53 of the Quran or be scientific errors of0:00:55 the Quran both of them use a very0:00:57 similar strategy in a sense I mean they0:00:59 go to the old exegesis is but it fi seer0:01:01 of the Quran and they try and pick out0:01:03 that which either goes in line with0:01:05 science or convict science what we're0:01:07 gonna do hopefully to start off with is0:01:10 discuss or just refer you guys actually0:01:12 to something we've already done with0:01:13 support sabore admins who's who's kind0:01:17 of Iman known for his0:01:20 polemics against evolutionists and is0:01:23 the base with the evolutionists well we0:01:25 kind of to kind of conclude what he said0:01:27 we we concluded that in terms of science0:01:30 in the philosophy of science the highest0:01:32 form of site or the strongest science0:01:34 you could say is observational science0:01:36 so if you have a vase and you drop a0:01:38 vase and the vase breaks this is0:01:40 something which is observationally true0:01:42 we can see it it's an observation right0:01:44 now how the vase breaks in terms of the0:01:47 theory of gravity or theories of gravity0:01:49 doesn't that's that's changed you know0:01:52 it was first Newtonian understanding and0:01:54 then an Italian saying for example right0:01:55 so theories are not as strong as0:01:58 observations but even observations we0:02:00 concluded can change as well and one of0:02:02 those examples as the Sun it was0:02:05 observed to be static irrespective to0:02:07 the earth and then it was observed to0:02:08 have its own rotation around itself and0:02:10 in the Milky Way so the point being0:02:12 everything in science can be criticized0:02:14 and science is not incorrigible in the0:02:16 sense that it can change so that's the0:02:19 first really important point that we0:02:21 have to make when we're discussing these0:02:22 things now the thing is what has0:02:24 happened is there was a person name is0:02:26 Morris aqua I wrote a book which was he0:02:30 was a french egyptologist and he went to0:02:32 egypt and these things and he found0:02:33 ramesses ii body and yeah and all these0:02:36 things I read his book why it's me what0:02:38 his book was called as the Bible Quran0:02:41 and science and it was a comparison to0:02:43 Quran the Bible and the scientific0:02:45 method and what's happened is this has0:02:47 been translated into what was referred0:02:49 to as book war isn't yeah and probably0:02:52 the biggest advocate of his books or his0:02:55 kind of material is Dow a material is0:02:57 zakian like you everyone probably knows0:02:59 who I'm talking about second I guess0:03:00 really if not the most one of the most0:03:02 influential the most affluent role0:03:03 propagates over slap in terms of the DAO0:03:07 world0:03:09 when I say influence I mean effect on0:03:11 people he's had the most effect on0:03:12 people in terms of the Dawa and probably0:03:15 the whole of the world now for this0:03:17 reason we're going to use the zakir naik0:03:18 template and we're gonna go through some0:03:20 of the things that he's he said we're0:03:22 going to scrutinize it but we're also0:03:24 going to see what other people have said0:03:27 on the other side who scrutinized it in0:03:29 a way which we believe is also unfair0:03:30 and that way we're trying to what we're0:03:32 trying to promote here is a watertight0:03:35 argument which we can use as Muslims in0:03:37 the Dawa but also to kind of understand0:03:40 this whole phenomena in and of itself0:03:41 whereby is gonna be very difficult for0:03:44 people to try and unpack it and to try0:03:46 and say this is wrong right so what0:03:48 we're going to be doing is we're going0:03:49 to be referencing the classical0:03:51 definition meaning the classic or exergy0:03:52 disease right because they cannot have0:03:55 been impacted by the scientific0:03:56 narrative by virtue of the fact that0:03:58 they came before science had discovered0:04:00 things about science we're also going to0:04:03 go systematically through the supposed0:04:06 scientific miracles in a thematic way so0:04:09 in the first episode we're doing today0:04:10 is about creation of the original so0:04:12 let's get straight into this right let's0:04:15 see first of all was I can like has to0:04:17 say about the creations of the heavens0:04:20 and the earth and let's see what0:04:21 well actually we can make of this there0:04:24 was a second D separation which gave0:04:27 rise to galaxies the stars the planets0:04:31 the Sun the moon and the earth on which0:04:34 we live this we call as the Big Bang the0:04:37 glorious quran mentions this in a0:04:41 nutshell 1400 years ago insomnia chapter0:04:45 number 21 what's the matter T so as you0:04:48 can see here he's talking about the Big0:04:50 Bang and and his his claim is that the0:04:52 Big Bang can be found in the Quranic0:04:54 discourse yeah what's your position on0:04:56 how do you think I think it's important0:04:58 before we go into that to talk briefly0:04:59 about how we should view the modern day0:05:02 scientific theory in comparison with the0:05:04 Quran and I and I think the reality is0:05:06 that to place a fundamental guiding0:05:08 overarching principle would be to say0:05:10 that you know this is something between0:05:12 three opposites the hub the truth is0:05:14 always in the middle yeah and you know0:05:16 many of the orbital principles are0:05:17 mentioned by scholars who specialized0:05:19 interfere and what we call it have said0:05:21 an enemy or the scientific0:05:22 have said which we see being propagated0:05:24 for many to add many colors of its lamps0:05:26 such a sucking like and the summary is0:05:30 that if there are something and you0:05:31 covered this I think we support that if0:05:33 there is something which is an0:05:34 undeniable scientific truth or reality0:05:36 or observation and it's unquestionable0:05:39 and it's proven and accepted and agreed0:05:42 upon then the iron question may be may0:05:45 be interpreted accordingly it may be0:05:46 accepted accordingly then it's possible0:05:48 if we can do that and we can interpret0:05:50 accordingly but we cannot unequivocally0:05:52 state that this is what Allah meant in0:05:54 this ayah and it's important to not say0:05:57 this because we haven't got a clear text0:05:59 that says Allah meant to say this right0:06:01 so for example taking this area in0:06:04 chapter 21 verse 13 right first of all0:06:06 is there any deficit which correspond to0:06:08 there to the Big Bang you see a lot many0:06:12 of them occur soon many of the scholars0:06:13 have spoken about Zion and there isn't a0:06:15 one single agreed-upon0:06:18 interpretation of this I even back in0:06:19 the day even back you know a thousand0:06:21 years ago he mentioned he stuffs a very0:06:23 famous stuff says quality of certain0:06:25 Kabir he says that he mentions roughly0:06:27 about four or five different types of0:06:28 stuff said one of them is that a loss0:06:31 paralysis can a terror attack on a human0:06:34 that the heavens and the earth were a0:06:36 single entity a single entity perfect0:06:39 upon our home a feta is the opposite of0:06:41 rot so that's all is to join something0:06:43 together and fess up and this is of0:06:45 course in speaking in Arabic language0:06:46 reticles to take it apart0:06:48 yep so this is one interpretation given0:06:51 and he quotes from even our birthday0:06:53 famous companion and others from the0:06:55 early generation had this how had this0:06:57 opinion the other quite famous opinion0:07:00 on this ayah and this is the according0:07:02 to the majority of the people of0:07:04 tashera's is that the heavens and the0:07:05 earth0:07:06 they were joined together they were one0:07:08 thing in terms in reference to its0:07:11 hardness and reference to his0:07:12 perfectness yeah and then I lost one ton0:07:15 separated between them by all via the0:07:17 characteristics so he gave the heavens0:07:19 or the sky0:07:20 as we refer to it the sky or over the0:07:22 earth the characteristic of having rain0:07:25 and raining and ardour the earth by0:07:28 letting plantation and growth grown it0:07:30 yeah and this supported by the following0:07:32 I that comes after or dynamically shape0:07:35 were0:07:36 we made everything and we make0:07:39 everything from water every living thing0:07:41 from water so every living thing has a0:07:43 characteristic that it has water in it0:07:45 and this propagated and it is supported0:07:47 by many many of them officer on another0:07:49 interpretation given by Abu Salim else0:07:51 for honey0:07:52 is that what feta could mean it could0:07:55 mean a metaphor meaning that something0:07:57 was not something was created something0:07:59 was created out of nothing so here you0:08:01 see fit erotic erotica escort esposa0:08:15 that the Quran is referencing definitely0:08:17 very plain as I said earlier we cannot0:08:19 say this we cannot say this and you know0:08:21 the you know the Quran Allah sponsor and0:08:24 I didn't reveal the Quran to be a book0:08:26 of scientific theory a book that can it0:08:28 be a plot scientific theory didn't0:08:30 rejected its revealed as a book to guide0:08:32 us or goddess the Muslims to be a0:08:34 guidance for mankind to the earth but at0:08:36 the same time it can be interpreted in0:08:39 that way it can be interpreted in that0:08:40 way if if this scientific theory in and0:08:43 off itself is is a reality a truth yeah0:08:45 okay and this is called the contentious0:08:47 point in of itself right and if there is0:08:49 space to be interpreted and we have this0:08:51 interpretation in the past then if0:08:53 possibly it could be but we cannot state0:08:55 that this is what we cannot have the0:08:57 cannot say that this is definitely what0:08:59 Allah MIT in decide right and obviously0:09:01 if we do there's the problem of ok-lau0:09:03 of where we say the Big Bang model is is0:09:06 the popular model of today tomorrow they0:09:08 change it to another moment exactly and0:09:09 this is continually change around so0:09:11 when we accept it today we might reject0:09:12 the one tomorrow and physically so0:09:14 incredibly is incredibly fluid0:09:15 absolutely paradigm shifts and things0:09:17 yeah so happens every day yeah it0:09:19 happens almost on a let's say decade0:09:21 basis yeah a level books and physics0:09:23 were completely different to maybe0:09:25 twenty years ago yeah0:09:26 ships are coming let's let's go to the0:09:29 other the other things the other thing0:09:30 that was commonly mentioned is essa was0:09:32 some a benign had be a Donnellan was on0:09:34 him that they insert the very edge up to0:09:36 fifty one of the Quran yeah first force0:09:38 of the heaven has been created with0:09:40 power and we are steadily expanding it0:09:42 you0:09:42 notice the correct translation it could0:09:45 be interpreted as a again this0:09:47 difference of opinion as to what aid0:09:48 what does aid me here we're in the moon0:09:51 and we are indeed as you said expanding0:09:54 it some of them for children have0:09:55 mentioned star support to be a quotes0:09:57 that there are a number of different0:09:59 temptations given Muhajiroun0:10:00 pardon we are able we are able we are0:10:02 all powerful and Joha d says that the0:10:05 best meaning of this is that we are not0:10:07 in need of anyone and we are powerful so0:10:09 he drove heavy here has encompassed all0:10:11 of the previous interpretations given0:10:13 into one particular one particular poll0:10:15 one particular opinion so it's not0:10:17 necessarily that we are expending okay0:10:20 in fact the strongest apenas that we are0:10:22 all able we are all powerful and is0:10:24 there any contradiction between those0:10:25 good could someone theoretically believe0:10:27 in both of those in able and absolutely0:10:29 absolutely compromise see is that here0:10:31 is what's a map when i have been almost0:10:33 young so it doesn't say what some at0:10:35 dunya but an abrasion win element so0:10:37 yeah so the the it off out the atom a0:10:40 definitely they don't have dunya because0:10:43 we know that somatic dunya is pollutant0:10:45 bulk yeah is where you find any stars0:10:47 right yeah a summer so you can translate0:10:49 how you translate that it's possibly0:10:51 universe or because the thing is yeah i0:10:52 mean i don't want to do that myself but0:10:54 the point is I'm saying I was so mad0:10:57 it's not saying what's the matter dunya0:10:58 so it's not saying this worldly this but0:11:00 the sky this thing above us above and0:11:04 this is from again the principles of0:11:05 tusser because here now Allah says0:11:07 Watson so there's a leaf and there's a0:11:09 lamp before the word simmer and0:11:11 intercede all sort of said we say turn0:11:13 yeah and it doesn't remove their0:11:14 generality right so it could possibly0:11:16 encompass all for this all of these0:11:18 things okay so could could me all the0:11:20 seven heavens0:11:21 it could mean all of these not for you0:11:22 to restrict it to one particular thing0:11:24 again you need a clear text on this0:11:25 right which so once again it's an0:11:27 interesting verse it could correlate to0:11:30 what's going on according to the theory0:11:31 oh we can't be too sure about that we0:11:33 shouldn't use that to propagate0:11:34 absolutely absolutely you know because0:11:35 again there are different of different0:11:37 options given but amorphous you know on0:11:38 this and even just from the Arabic0:11:40 language we can say that this doesn't0:11:41 cannot restrict it to this particular0:11:42 meaning and as if we restricted the0:11:44 Quran to something okay on the other0:11:46 hand though we have some people who0:11:47 maybe let's say trying to attack Islam0:11:49 yeah so let me give you this this one0:11:52 particular person0:11:52 the internet he said that the one that0:11:54 actually he lists says one of the0:11:56 reasons why he left Islam and he says0:11:58 that Islam advocates that the earth was0:12:01 created before the heaven yeah so and0:12:03 obviously he quotes the verse develop a0:12:07 lock on metallurgy mathematics oh I0:12:08 understand why he's the one who created0:12:11 all did everything in the earth then he0:12:12 turned to Devin and he made him to seven0:12:14 heaven he also sort of four cylinders0:12:16 from here yeah so the point here is is0:12:18 this the only interpretation we have0:12:20 again this this particular and sort of0:12:24 facilities as well a number place in the0:12:25 Quran this isn't the only interpretation0:12:27 given right this isn't enter only0:12:28 interpolation given by the classical0:12:30 scholars you have for example a Lucy he0:12:31 says in his guitar or in my oral Melanie0:12:33 he gives this interpretation then Allah0:12:36 intended to create the heavens yeah this0:12:38 is one interpretation given even if your0:12:40 theory is quite interestingly he points0:12:42 out something quite interesting he says0:12:44 a buddy who was from the fourth0:12:45 generation and he was considered as0:12:46 really the father of all of them force0:12:48 it on the people who the scholars to0:12:50 explain the Quran he says that iturra de0:12:53 who again was from the self is0:12:54 second-generation tabby a follower he0:12:57 differed with them and he said he0:12:59 differed with some of the other officer0:13:01 on a scholarship session he said that in0:13:03 fact this shows that the earth was0:13:05 created after the heavens it says oh it0:13:12 doesn't say and then he created and0:13:14 again this is also another interesting0:13:15 thing that Nikita and others mentioned0:13:17 it was a again in machine theorem Quran0:13:21 that it could mean that thumber here in0:13:24 Arabic some we roughly translated to0:13:26 mean as often it doesn't necessarily0:13:29 mean it happened this action before it0:13:31 happened after or the section after0:13:32 happened before it could mean that when0:13:34 you speak it's as if you were given 300:13:36 you're simply reorganizing how you0:13:38 present a structure how you present a0:13:40 sentence but it could have no effect on0:13:42 the actual how and when it happened you0:13:44 know so purely from a linguistic aspect0:13:47 right but not a literal as I don't wanna0:13:49 get people into too much of a0:13:51 kind of tangent here but there is a0:13:53 there is a there's another verse in the0:13:56 Quran other by the dedicate a hat we're0:13:57 gonna come back to another episode0:13:58 definitely but the earth of there after0:14:01 we have spread out and one on so the0:14:04 point is this would suggest the opposite0:14:06 which is just that the case amount was0:14:08 created first and down was great okay0:14:09 maybe we'll cover it in the future0:14:11 episode the reality is that this isn't a0:14:13 contradiction yeah that's what I told0:14:15 and firstly we believe that the0:14:17 condition comes from one source which is0:14:19 all los Manos really the reality is that0:14:21 even some of them of a sudra of old have0:14:23 mentioned that it could mean that after0:14:25 the creation of the heavens and earth0:14:26 whenever a particular Canyon they were0:14:28 off that the earth was spread now we0:14:31 know in modern day Suns that it could be0:14:33 that the the tectonic plates were spread0:14:35 after gradually Allahu Alem this is a0:14:37 possible interpretation to give it could0:14:39 mean that the vegetation or it could0:14:40 mean not necessarily that it supports0:14:42 the Flat Earth theory some ascribe -0:14:45 yeah we're gonna come to that0:14:46 come to something in the second episode0:14:48 some people have claimed the battle0:14:49 Quran that it talks about Flat Earth or0:14:51 the earth being flat but let's let's go0:14:54 to another issue here which is the a.m.0:14:56 this is the day the six days that a lot0:14:59 of power I'll have a summary log now0:15:01 while I was reading as Isfahan II he0:15:03 says that a young padawan AE is a mammal0:15:05 Esmond it could be any time period from0:15:07 the time periods right well let me play0:15:09 devil's advocate because when you look0:15:10 at so little m suet for example stood0:15:13 such that chapter 32 of the Quran M0:15:16 versus another - Sumerian mythology a0:15:19 human can L facility mean man without0:15:22 doing so it says that the the the affair0:15:26 goes from the heavens to the earth in a0:15:28 day which is worth a thousand thousand0:15:30 years of your reckoning of Urich and0:15:31 obviously there's a sore eyes so with0:15:32 matter chapter 17 I think but I'm seen0:15:35 at fifty thousand years and we know that0:15:36 this is talking about two different days0:15:38 of Sidra most Epson that's what kind of0:15:40 up the day of judgment and I'm talking0:15:41 about something else but some of us even0:15:42 have said that this thousand days is0:15:44 referencing is referencing that the the0:15:48 The Hulk of the similar tool of the0:15:49 creation of David's in death and if we0:15:51 fall into that they were gonna say then0:15:52 what's the difference between you and0:15:53 the young earth creationist I'm sorry0:15:55 Christian so well how would you respond0:15:56 to that again it's it's not to do to0:15:59 Hammond of the Quran and to apply the0:16:00 Quran according to a modern scientific0:16:01 theory after it comes down to the0:16:03 linguistic meaning of the word yo0:16:05 yeah which as you said you caught from0:16:07 us for honey that young could mean0:16:09 something which is a long period of time0:16:10 not restricted to the 24 hours that we0:16:12 know and there's something called by0:16:13 many of the local you know many of the0:16:14 scholars of the language not necessarily0:16:16 going into the tafseer of it right so0:16:17 just by understanding this and again the0:16:19 Quran came in Arabic to the Arab also0:16:21 interpreted according to how the Arab0:16:23 how the arrows would understand their0:16:24 language and the Quran doesn't make it0:16:26 clear how long the day was again if you0:16:29 say yo and you cannot apply what we know0:16:31 is a day 24 hour day or 12 hours and 120:16:34 hours and you can't apply to this is0:16:36 what meant back there what loss monitor0:16:37 element so that's true that it could0:16:39 mean that these six periods are actually0:16:41 just experienced but we don't know how0:16:43 we can't say the length of it yeah0:16:44 absolutely 101 that's fine0:16:47 another another thing that's put forward0:16:49 is we were talking about in relation0:16:52 kind of relation to the heavens and the0:16:54 earth is the reference and so little0:16:56 facility to a dead ohon yeah so to the0:16:59 the worst refer to a smoke some say that0:17:02 this links to them the Big Bang yep what0:17:06 do you think why it's similar to what we0:17:09 discussed and I of ambien all of these0:17:10 ayat are connected the three I have the0:17:12 three verses that we spoke about they're0:17:13 all connected to the creation of the of0:17:15 the heavens and earth some of them0:17:16 officer on the schools of state have0:17:18 said okay they have said that what is0:17:20 meant by Duhon here is a al-mal but -0:17:23 sorry what format kind of like smoking0:17:26 again some of them off Asuma said that0:17:28 you hide or vapor yeah and as someone0:17:30 said that you can't do this you can't do0:17:31 this because is that basis or any mus0:17:34 any like evidence funny not from another0:17:37 ayah or must also long some no it's not0:17:39 okay so this is the interpretation again0:17:41 given by the Memphis you know in0:17:42 themselves so which could be rejected or0:17:44 could be accepted okay and if something0:17:45 hasn't been made clear then again you0:17:47 cannot put yourself into them and you0:17:48 say that I lost plants I lament this0:17:50 unequivocally and the same thing would0:17:53 apply the theory does accept it today0:17:55 may be rejected tomorrow right okay so0:17:57 here just commenting so here what it0:18:01 seems like it's happening is people are0:18:02 being selective right absolutely it0:18:04 could be the case that you have an area0:18:06 which has more than one interpretation0:18:09 right absolutely0:18:10 but and it has more the one to see it0:18:12 obviously these men in face your own it0:18:14 was the ones who want to promote Islam0:18:16 and for0:18:17 Jonnie promote Islam as being absolutely0:18:19 in line with scientific evidence which0:18:22 it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to0:18:24 be as we've explained or I will say that0:18:26 these are the things that make it in0:18:28 line with excitement and no court has0:18:30 ever see it the ones who want to say0:18:31 that Islam is in contradiction with the0:18:33 scientific it'll be selective on the to0:18:34 facilitate such issues so this guy we0:18:37 saw here talking about the earth being0:18:39 created before the heaven he's he's0:18:41 falling into that so he completely0:18:43 ignored what made the major toughest it0:18:45 have said of course to me I'm Quran and0:18:48 this one it's quite shocking to be0:18:50 honest with you know so the point we're0:18:51 trying to make okay dishonesty well0:18:53 could we say here if one of his honest0:18:56 as possible I think the argument we0:18:58 could make from a dollar perspective0:18:59 because it once again we have to0:19:00 normally think about how we can0:19:01 understand this mess out of the0:19:03 situation ourselves but how we can0:19:04 package it for the four people of down0:19:06 this is the way I put and tell me what0:19:07 you think of this I say if and this is a0:19:11 conditional statement I put right if you0:19:14 take science as a good yardstick for0:19:17 truth then the Quran is the most closely0:19:21 correlated ancient religion to the0:19:23 scientific discourse and here I'm being0:19:26 very selective with my terminology0:19:27 because I'm not saying it has to be0:19:29 completely compatible some saying it's0:19:31 most correlated if you compare for0:19:33 example with the biblical narrative of0:19:35 Genesis and there's no way you can0:19:37 interpret that in a way which can even0:19:39 correspond to science in any way shape0:19:41 or form okay so from this perspective0:19:43 and you can say some have advocated this0:19:46 now it's like a multi-layered kind of0:19:48 dimensional approach where people today0:19:50 who could yanny from their own total0:19:54 humble perspective from the on pondering0:19:55 perspective they could interpret the0:19:57 Quran in a scientific way they're in0:19:59 their rights to do that so long as they0:20:00 don't say unequivocally this is what los0:20:02 pantalones aleni as long as it's within0:20:04 the realms of said within the realms of0:20:06 the principles of the service again it's0:20:08 not something that everyone can can go0:20:10 ahead and and interpret it from a table0:20:12 or perspective then yes it's possible to0:20:13 to extract points of benefit from it0:20:15 right but we have to be very careful0:20:17 about falling into speaking about0:20:18 outlast Montana without knowledge and0:20:20 saying that this is what a lost one0:20:21 tournament in this was just something0:20:22 very very very dangerous what's really0:20:24 powerful about this is that someone was0:20:26 it from0:20:26 scientific I have a scientific0:20:27 background for example doesn't have to0:20:29 reevaluate their scientific beliefs0:20:31 absolute before becoming a Muslim whirs0:20:34 that's for example literalistic biblical0:20:36 Bible0:20:36 yeah knee thumper whatever you wanna0:20:39 call them people that really believe in0:20:40 the Bible and advocate teaching would0:20:43 have to in order to be kind of a0:20:45 Christian yeah we'd have to reject it or0:20:48 say well metaphors it yeah absolutely so0:20:50 that way you could say this that's a0:20:51 distinction that's it's a massive0:20:53 distinction so again from the beauty of0:20:54 the Quran this is again from the beauty0:20:56 of the Quran open the beauty of Islam in0:20:58 an office of but it's important0:20:59 important again again that we don't0:21:01 necessarily speak about or fall into the0:21:03 trap of changing our beliefs due to what0:21:06 the scientific theory says of today okay0:21:08 so here we've talked about kind of the0:21:10 beginning of the heavens and the earth0:21:12 we talked about the we talked about the0:21:15 Big Bang and the expanding universe we0:21:18 talked about these things there's one0:21:20 other thing here which I found quite0:21:22 interesting and to be honest with you I0:21:23 found it really like one of the furthest0:21:26 thing away from what can be interpreted0:21:28 here the reference is similar to Adama a0:21:31 narrow man oh yeah0:21:32 as I can like he has something to say0:21:34 about this so let's see what he has to0:21:37 say lately the scientists have0:21:40 discovered that there are bridges of0:21:44 matter in the interstellar space it's0:21:47 not vacuum and it's called as plasma and0:21:50 they see this matter is in a form of0:21:53 gaseous matter which has equal number of0:21:56 positive ions as well as electrons and0:22:00 the Quran mentions 14 and years ago in0:22:04 surah Furqan chapter 25 verse 159 it is0:22:08 allah subhanho wa taala0:22:10 who has created the heavens and the0:22:11 earth as well as things in between it so0:22:14 Quran says there is matter in between0:22:17 the heavens and the earth which today0:22:20 science they say this plasma can be0:22:23 considered as the fourth type of matter0:22:25 so now in the clip0:22:27 he says samaras my this webinar was0:22:30 between lives and after refers to plasma0:22:32 is this feasible again using the0:22:34 principles that we've laid out just0:22:36 something agreed upon by all of them0:22:37 Fasil on all the schools I said of0:22:38 course you cannot say this yeah0:22:40 because again this is something that0:22:41 where the the the the AIA0:22:43 may not necessarily allow that to be0:22:45 said and there is nothing that has been0:22:46 said before you honor but no one from0:22:48 the self has said this okay there is no0:22:52 stuff sitter support there's no0:22:53 president to tea to agree to this and so0:22:56 we don't be linguistic meaning couldn't0:22:57 mean linguistically it's very difficult0:23:00 yeah it's very difficult it's possible0:23:02 this kind of thing should be just kind0:23:03 of thrown into again it has to be0:23:07 subjected to to do diligence and bath0:23:09 and requires button this okay but0:23:11 generally from the outset no okay I0:23:14 agree with that long I second that0:23:16 so hey that's the end of the first0:23:17 episode guys I hope you have actually0:23:19 took benefit from this from this session0:23:22 what we're trying to do is we're trying0:23:23 to be as academically honest as possible0:23:25 we want to say we want to say about lots0:23:27 of on Tyler's words that which is we can0:23:30 say based on the language based on what0:23:32 people I said before about it and also0:23:35 based on the evidence that we have in0:23:37 terms of the of the physical world0:23:40 around us but within limitations and0:23:41 I've hope you've taken benefit from this0:23:43 in the next episode we're going to be0:23:45 talking about geo centricity versus0:23:48 healers interested see the the rotations0:23:49 of the heavens and the earth the0:23:50 rotations of celestial bodies in the sky0:23:53 and things like that and this has been a0:23:55 Yanni an area of controversy absolute0:23:58 for some people0:23:59 till then we'll see you soon