INTENSE MUSLIM JEWISH DEBATE ON ISRAEL 2021 (2021-05-23) #

0:00:00 don't worry i'll keep you secure yeah
0:00:01 well if he's gonna say one of my
0:00:02 brothers are trying to attack you
0:00:04 oh no no no no okay no look the thing is
0:00:07 very casual yesterday we want to go this
0:00:09 way they know about it yeah yes okay the
0:00:10 video's not even out yeah look we went
0:00:12 there to have a discussion
0:00:13 yeah but the point is this year we need
0:00:15 to understand brothers and sisters here
0:00:17 this that is anti-semitic future that
0:00:18 nobody can come and see because we know
0:00:20 they're using the whole narrative of if
0:00:21 you talk against israel and symmetra i
0:00:23 don't buy that
0:00:23 i don't think you guys will buy it
0:00:25 because it's good it's as good as and
0:00:26 you might disagree with me
0:00:27 it's as good as isis coming and seeing
0:00:29 your islamic folk for talking against us
0:00:31 that's why i believe
0:00:32 so the first thing is this yeah any
0:00:34 thunks i'm telling you well now don't
0:00:35 give you're a muslim i don't give a damn
0:00:37 if you think you're brave enough to come
0:00:39 and two people who come to the park
0:00:41 regularly where we have nice discussions
0:00:42 i don't even let me tell you even if the
0:00:44 pro is is ready we will have an
0:00:46 intellectual discussion so i want to
0:00:48 make that very categorically clear
0:00:50 anyone that gets resourced to violence
0:00:52 against anybody
0:00:53 you're a weak individual and this is
0:00:55 what you have to do can i add to that as
0:00:56 well
0:00:56 can i add to that this is very important
0:00:58 okay this is extremely important
0:01:00 the the way you need to deal with people
0:01:03 in life
0:01:04 okay the quran says
0:01:09 whoever tries to seek retribution for
0:01:12 after they have been oppressed
0:01:13 there's no there's no there's no blame
0:01:16 on them okay
0:01:17 but what i want to say is that means to
0:01:19 say that if anyone
0:01:22 guys please please if listen if someone
0:01:25 is coming to you with positive
0:01:27 and energy right and they are
0:01:30 not trying to do anything to you by
0:01:33 virtue of the fact that they're jewish
0:01:35 now you will start to be aggressive
0:01:37 towards them then what's the difference
0:01:38 between
0:01:39 what we are condemning and what you are
0:01:40 becoming
0:01:42 this is my question what is the
0:01:43 difference between what we are
0:01:44 condemning and what you are becoming
0:01:46 because most of the time we become what
0:01:48 we condemn
0:01:50 you know and this is a psychoanalytic
0:01:52 situation you know someone gets bullied
0:01:53 they become
0:01:54 the bully we can't afford to be like
0:01:57 that
0:01:58 with jewish people and muslim people we
0:02:01 have had
0:02:02 a beautiful history i don't know what
0:02:03 your views are on the history of isla of
0:02:05 judaism and islam
0:02:06 but sir michael gilbert and others even
0:02:09 bernard lewis who is an audiences
0:02:10 has has rated the jewish experience
0:02:14 in muslim lands the point being is this
0:02:17 the conflation
0:02:18 that is being made between zionism
0:02:22 and judaism is a dangerous conflation
0:02:25 and if the muslim community make that
0:02:28 conflation
0:02:29 and as a result of it start to baja
0:02:33 and to attack and to try and cause
0:02:35 intolerance to the jewish community
0:02:37 believe you me you have not only
0:02:39 betrayed yourselves
0:02:40 but you have betrayed the prophet
0:02:41 muhammad and you have betrayed islam
0:02:45 because this is not the way he used to
0:02:46 act at all even and you know let me tell
0:02:49 you something else you know that most of
0:02:50 your brothers are like that most of the
0:02:52 brothers come to the park yeah
0:02:53 we talk and we converse normally no but
0:02:55 i want to say this even if one of them
0:02:58 if i get news or if ali gets news
0:03:01 or if hersham gets news on one sword any
0:03:03 of us get news
0:03:04 that there are muslims in this park that
0:03:07 are causing
0:03:07 people like aaron rabbi aaron and rabbi
0:03:10 yoel no
0:03:11 rabbi okay no problem he's being humble
0:03:14 he's being humble
0:03:16 it's pleasure no no i'm telling you this
0:03:18 these police these useless
0:03:20 officers here that come into the car
0:03:21 that come into the park at 40 miles an
0:03:23 hour and run over children
0:03:24 almost honestly he ran it almost run
0:03:26 over a child this fools
0:03:29 they are not going to be the ones who
0:03:30 are going to have words with you let's
0:03:32 say
0:03:32 it's going to be us that have words with
0:03:34 you as the muslim community
0:03:36 we will have words with you and we will
0:03:38 boycott you and we will embarrass you
0:03:40 and we will not honestly because you
0:03:41 just want them to just if any of you
0:03:43 guys are here
0:03:44 and you see hostility is upon you to
0:03:46 defend them yeah okay it's up on you
0:03:48 because i would feel the same but if i'm
0:03:49 in a jewish community like we went to
0:03:50 golden screen yesterday okay
0:03:51 it got a little bit hostile some remarks
0:03:53 were made okay i would expect
0:03:55 and i'm sure if you guys were there
0:03:57 thank you if you was there you would
0:03:58 have said
0:03:59 hold on a second here even whatever it
0:04:00 may be so brother and sister is very
0:04:02 important since you got out of the way
0:04:03 are you satisfied
0:04:04 solely
0:04:08 let me tell you something i could make a
0:04:09 few new jokes and stuff like that but i
0:04:11 promise do you want to i promise you
0:04:12 i am not saying these words because of
0:04:14 cameras here and to make it so
0:04:16 i swear to god i am saying this because
0:04:17 i genuinely believe and if i was here
0:04:19 i would be on your side i'll make it
0:04:20 very clear now coming and
0:04:22 and on that sorry yeah just to add it no
0:04:24 you never interrupt me okay
0:04:26 the prophet muhammad
0:04:34 give victory to your brother meaning the
0:04:36 muslim brother whether they are the
0:04:38 oppressive
0:04:39 or the oppressor and they said how would
0:04:40 you how would you um
0:04:43 how would you uh give victory to someone
0:04:45 who's the oppressor he said that by
0:04:46 stopping the oppression
0:04:48 so listen the prophet sallallahu alaihi
0:04:51 wasallam had very
0:04:52 very cordial relationships with jewish
0:04:54 people well
0:04:55 even after wars took place even when the
0:04:57 jewish man died even after
0:04:59 wars took place and whilst wars were
0:05:01 taking place
0:05:02 he would have cordial relationships with
0:05:05 them
0:05:05 never and i'm saying this now confused
0:05:10 or a combatant and you know advocate for
0:05:13 the
0:05:14 science movement some hostile person
0:05:16 with
0:05:17 a jewish if we see that you do that and
0:05:18 i'm saying this again we will be the
0:05:20 first ones to be against you
0:05:22 no young person here can ever look at a
0:05:25 jewish person say this
0:05:26 let's go get what do you mean you
0:05:28 wouldn't be doing that if you knew that
0:05:29 he would
0:05:29 if they had something on them if they're
0:05:31 if they were not outnumbered
0:05:32 don't act cowardly this is cowardice
0:05:36 yeah where do you think this all this
0:05:38 hatred is coming from obviously there's
0:05:40 a source to it
0:05:41 all around the world yeah where do you
0:05:42 think this um we'll come to this one
0:05:44 but i wanted to engage with them yeah
0:05:46 exactly yes exactly
0:05:48 yeah we're gonna answer your question
0:05:49 we'll have questions what we want to do
0:05:50 with
0:05:51 the interview so the question on the
0:05:52 matter of israel and palestine yes
0:05:54 because look even if you're pro
0:05:55 we want to have a discussion so hijab
0:05:57 because this is
0:05:58 let's start with the job i want to ask
0:06:00 you just what discussion with your with
0:06:02 your
0:06:02 we're going to make it fast because the
0:06:04 simple thing is
0:06:06 i spoke to the chef before i said the
0:06:08 main point is we have to speak to each
0:06:09 other
0:06:10 and not about each other and not focus
0:06:12 on the media and focus as i said
0:06:14 to youtube all our followers because
0:06:15 then you have the full comments and
0:06:17 everyone
0:06:17 badging their own side or on twitter you
0:06:19 just talk about yourself
0:06:20 as long as we speak to each other we
0:06:23 talk to each other when you hear the
0:06:24 other side
0:06:25 then we agree far more than we do oh we
0:06:27 can do this here
0:06:28 they will not do it they will not be
0:06:30 doing it over there right now okay for
0:06:32 obvious reasons
0:06:33 this this is our you know what we're
0:06:35 looking at here
0:06:36 could be something which changes
0:06:38 societal momentum
0:06:40 across the world because we have to
0:06:42 bring back a state of normality
0:06:44 and peace honestly i'm not just saying
0:06:46 that fall as lip service i mean this
0:06:48 because
0:06:48 based on how this conversation goes
0:06:50 honestly it can make a difference
0:06:51 between life and death
0:06:53 someone some zionist or some terrorist
0:06:55 or whatever maybe
0:06:56 might get angered and aroused and then
0:06:58 start doing something which in the name
0:07:00 of judaism or zionism or islam whatever
0:07:02 it is that will will take us 10 years
0:07:03 back so what i'm saying is i just want
0:07:05 to ask you now
0:07:06 what is your view on the issues
0:07:09 uh just generally oh open question open
0:07:12 question is simple
0:07:13 condemn violence condemn death and it
0:07:16 should hurt
0:07:17 me and you for every innocent person or
0:07:20 even a combatant
0:07:22 because they only combatant because they
0:07:24 see no future they don't understand the
0:07:26 other side they don't understand each
0:07:28 other
0:07:28 and if they would only talk and find a
0:07:30 way to work each other's problems out
0:07:32 and understand each other's aspirations
0:07:34 then as we have spoken many times in the
0:07:36 past we understand each other and see
0:07:37 how much we would really agree
0:07:38 and i'll take it a step further i think
0:07:41 that the fact that
0:07:42 there is this belief in the world that
0:07:44 jews and muslims can't get along
0:07:46 is an imperialistic thing from
0:07:48 colonialist power like britain
0:07:50 who brought it to us to believe that
0:07:52 dividing and conquering people
0:07:54 is the way forward do you believe do you
0:07:56 agree then that
0:07:58 as the u.n uh says and human rights
0:08:01 watch and all of these organizations
0:08:03 that
0:08:03 the actions of the israeli government
0:08:05 have not only been disproportionate
0:08:07 but they have been catastrophic for the
0:08:10 people of gaza and they have been
0:08:11 unwarranted
0:08:12 in the sense that the damage that has
0:08:14 been done
0:08:15 has has been something which really
0:08:17 can't be undone
0:08:18 and unfortunately has caused more
0:08:20 problems in the middle east
0:08:21 in that area to what extent would you
0:08:24 agree with there's a lot of questions in
0:08:26 this one
0:08:26 there's a lot of questions to to get to
0:08:29 put together
0:08:29 right the simple concept is if we're
0:08:32 going to talk about
0:08:33 the what's happening now without going
0:08:36 into the reason course behind it
0:08:38 then it is yes to look at the current
0:08:40 form if you're going to look simply at
0:08:42 numbers are you going to look at the
0:08:43 reason
0:08:43 then yes it is something that is bad we
0:08:46 know it wants a house blown up no one
0:08:47 wants even a dog hurt in the side not in
0:08:49 gaza not in jerusalem not in alcott
0:08:52 no way definitely everyone would agree
0:08:54 with that so
0:08:55 but if you're going to go back and we're
0:08:56 going to take it a step backwards and
0:08:58 we're going to just go
0:08:59 first take facts and let's work with
0:09:00 that and work your way forward
0:09:02 and then work on our aspirations to
0:09:04 understand the two aspirations of two
0:09:06 people
0:09:07 right so i believe that these two people
0:09:08 could live together maybe in two states
0:09:11 or even one state
0:09:12 okay let's get let's talk about facts
0:09:14 right because the facts
0:09:15 are that 25 days before hamas even
0:09:18 launched a rocket
0:09:19 25 days before that happened al-aqsa
0:09:21 compound was
0:09:22 stormed and vice news has done a very
0:09:24 good piece on this you can watch it's a
0:09:25 20 minute piece
0:09:27 and in that they show that actually
0:09:28 al-aqsa was stormed
0:09:30 there was bullets being fired tear gas
0:09:32 being shot
0:09:33 people were being dispersing you see
0:09:34 women bleeding okay
0:09:36 and of course you have shaykh as well is
0:09:40 and this is very important to understand
0:09:42 according to the un
0:09:43 this whole east jerusalem area is not
0:09:46 under israeli uh it's not part of israel
0:09:49 for all intents and purposes
0:09:50 now my point is this is why is it that
0:09:53 you talk about reasons
0:09:54 for me the reasons are very clear is
0:09:55 provocation just like you know there's
0:09:57 the wailing wall and
0:09:58 other sacred sites and stuff like that
0:10:00 for jews
0:10:01 there also is and so on in east
0:10:04 jerusalem
0:10:05 i agree so would you not agree here that
0:10:08 the continued the continued situation
0:10:12 yeah perpetuation of problems in that
0:10:14 area with the cells
0:10:15 in the holy month but not only that it's
0:10:17 the settlements issue this is the issue
0:10:19 the settlements issue
0:10:20 you know it's you're not i'm not you of
0:10:22 course but israel so-called israel
0:10:24 because i don't agree with what they
0:10:25 consider themselves as to be honest with
0:10:26 you
0:10:27 they consider themselves as something
0:10:28 that we as the international community
0:10:30 completely they have all their own
0:10:31 definition what the country is which no
0:10:33 one else agrees with quite quite frankly
0:10:35 that israel have been doing in terms of
0:10:38 settlements in the area
0:10:40 not just in chicago in all of the areas
0:10:42 which they are not entitled to put
0:10:44 settlements in
0:10:44 okay in the west bank all of that area
0:10:47 that is
0:10:48 the heart of the problem if that did not
0:10:50 exist okay
0:10:51 then there could have been a discussion
0:10:53 about potentially two-state solutions
0:10:54 but like
0:10:55 yeah it always depends at which point we
0:10:58 roll back and circle back
0:11:00 to yes yes you can circle back to point
0:11:02 a
0:11:03 and then you can set it back to point b
0:11:04 point c a and depends how far you circle
0:11:06 back
0:11:07 to what you're going to see on the full
0:11:08 picture on the full image right
0:11:10 so what do you have to remember
0:11:11 something as follows right designs
0:11:13 in israel yes they don't see themselves
0:11:16 as oppressors i'm talking from their
0:11:18 perspective if you're going to meet the
0:11:19 zionists they're not going to see
0:11:20 themselves as oppressors
0:11:21 you can see yourself as violence i don't
0:11:22 see myself as a zionism
0:11:24 it depends it depends again what the
0:11:25 definition of zionism is right and
0:11:27 somebody else before before
0:11:28 his brother what what do i believe in
0:11:30 you say free palestine what the word
0:11:32 free palestine mean
0:11:33 is it is it an anti-semitic inverse so
0:11:36 it's term or not
0:11:37 so explaining it depends as well what
0:11:39 the term
0:11:40 means to entitle which part of it so it
0:11:43 always depends how far you're going to
0:11:44 circle okay
0:11:45 that means is the fact is with the
0:11:48 united nations
0:11:50 with britain with the baffler
0:11:51 declaration with all of it they've put
0:11:53 two people against each other
0:11:54 that's the simple fact then there you
0:11:57 have the ngos
0:11:58 the non-profit organizations that come
0:12:00 to serve at calls and the end the course
0:12:02 comes to serve themselves
0:12:04 and the one who gained the most are the
0:12:06 politicians
0:12:07 the ngos the media they're the one who
0:12:10 gained the most
0:12:11 who loses the most are the simple
0:12:13 brothers and sisters on both sides okay
0:12:15 children and yeah and and women and
0:12:18 never mind your children
0:12:19 simple adults are the ones who suffer
0:12:21 but you know i'm so sorry you know what
0:12:22 it is yesterday when we went to go to
0:12:23 screen here
0:12:24 and we had a van we hired a van and we
0:12:26 were just showing images of what's
0:12:27 happening here
0:12:27 um and to me look it's it's it be
0:12:30 israeli kids or not
0:12:31 but we came across a very disturbing
0:12:33 comment which was like
0:12:34 one of the the people that said that
0:12:36 they bought it on themselves
0:12:37 yeah so one of one guy said that today i
0:12:39 think sorry but you see you're seeing
0:12:40 something over here
0:12:41 and we went there we didn't go there to
0:12:43 be hostile police came in like
0:12:45 it's like it's like they were there but
0:12:46 they just vanished and
0:12:48 appeared in two seconds and they came
0:12:50 and the thing is
0:12:51 brother you know that it's a charge time
0:12:53 yes so yeah
0:12:54 people who don't know you and don't know
0:12:56 muhammad yeah and he looks
0:12:58 quite intimidating even if we know that
0:12:59 he's a cuddly babe
0:13:01 but they then people people always go on
0:13:03 their fences that's
0:13:04 that's the nature
0:13:09 the automatic charge that you have in
0:13:10 society today is the fact it's been
0:13:12 after
0:13:13 the car that that that drove past the
0:13:16 car and they drove past
0:13:17 and started what they sheltered at that
0:13:21 i always say is it's not easy even
0:13:23 without all these people
0:13:24 and show those pictures in this
0:13:26 particular location
0:13:28 we did a public one and then we did it i
0:13:30 agree and we did one with the jewish
0:13:31 people and that's why i would condemn
0:13:33 anyone on any side but they didn't just
0:13:35 says you know you know i know and that's
0:13:36 one thing i condem
0:13:37 anyone on any side who makes
0:13:40 who makes who makes you trivial or or
0:13:44 anything about you know about children
0:13:46 women anyone at all
0:13:48 and that i would agree one hundred
0:13:49 dollars this is what i'm saying we went
0:13:51 there too because i want to be back i'll
0:13:52 tell you why i have this tone because
0:13:54 we haven't met each other and we know
0:13:56 that okay we come and feed
0:13:57 but we want to get back to the point
0:14:00 because otherwise we're going to do
0:14:14 he was probably pointing out the fact
0:14:15 that a lot of times there are pictures
0:14:17 of circulation
0:14:18 yeah there are pictures from many years
0:14:19 ago or from different locations that are
0:14:21 being circulated on social media
0:14:23 or even by prominent people but he's
0:14:25 these children
0:14:26 which are just he knows
0:14:38 and are there to intentionally create
0:14:39 misinformation okay but if people
0:14:41 had certainly if you had a van where if
0:14:43 if it is
0:14:44 excuse me because it's important
0:14:48 for the interview
0:14:52 this way all those people i can't say
0:14:56 all of them
0:15:21 uh sorry aaron look let's not be around
0:15:24 the bush there's clearly
0:15:26 there is clearly an anti-arab sentiment
0:15:29 in israel
0:15:31 as there may be a very clear
0:15:33 anti-semitic
0:15:35 sentiment in the arab world right now
0:16:04 do you agree with a two-state solution
0:16:19 you think that palestinians would want
0:16:22 and accept an israeli state their belief
0:16:26 i don't think it's true their belief
0:16:27 would be
0:16:28 no they don't and they would back it up
0:16:29 with simple arguments as follows
0:16:31 they would say is that that from the
0:16:34 creation of the state of israel for
0:16:35 example
0:16:36 in 1948
0:16:39 in 1948 from the creation of the state
0:16:41 of israel
0:16:42 when the west bank was under the judean
0:16:44 control and when they
0:16:46 were and when gaza was on the egyptian
0:16:49 control
0:16:50 the palestinians never claimed being a
0:16:52 press under the rule of those two
0:16:54 countries
0:16:56 these are assertions though no i'm just
0:16:58 saying what
0:16:59 yeah i'm just giving you the concept
0:17:01 where they come from i'm not saying it's
0:17:02 true
0:17:02 and just giving you the background from
0:17:04 the way they see it the next thing they
0:17:06 see is
0:17:06 that when you go when the palestinians
0:17:08 start shouting they see something said
0:17:09 from the river to the sea
0:17:10 palestine will be free so the way they
0:17:12 view it and they back it up
0:17:15 with the chapter for example from hamas
0:17:17 that the palestinians
0:17:18 do not want a jewish state in any shape
0:17:20 or form
0:17:22 now so when they asked me it's free
0:17:23 palestine yeah a palestinian calls an
0:17:26 anti-semitic call when you ask me before
0:17:28 one of your brothers
0:17:29 i told them it depends what it means
0:17:31 okay it means a palestinian state
0:17:33 then sure there should be a palestinian
0:17:35 okay oh
0:17:36 guys i want to say free palestine guys
0:17:38 guys we have we're having a discussion
0:17:42 all right cool okay and then if you're
0:17:43 gonna ask me nothing
0:17:48 okay and i have given you the chance to
0:17:49 do that okay listen
0:17:51 you've you've said you've talked about
0:17:52 the balfour declaration then you talk
0:17:54 about you've alluded to the 48 war and
0:17:56 the 67
0:17:57 borders all right you've alluded to
0:17:58 those things let me be very
0:17:59 straightforward here
0:18:00 let's talk about the facts first and
0:18:02 foremost when the balfour declaration
0:18:03 took place
0:18:04 it was one country promising to a second
0:18:06 country the land of a third country
0:18:09 now under any world view i'm sure in
0:18:11 judaism
0:18:12 or in um islam or liberalism no no no
0:18:16 let me finish let me finish because i've
0:18:17 let you speak for five minutes
0:18:19 look the fact is chain wiseman and other
0:18:22 members of the
0:18:23 uh zionist move yeah sorry chaim wiseman
0:18:26 and other members of the
0:18:27 zionist group we're saying in english
0:18:29 right
0:18:30 okay listen please i've let you i've let
0:18:32 you spoke to speak so
0:18:33 just try and listen to me for a bit yeah
0:18:36 crime wiseman
0:18:37 and other members of the zionist
0:18:38 movement in this country when they sent
0:18:41 letters
0:18:41 all right to british authorities and
0:18:44 then there was the balfour declaration
0:18:45 917
0:18:46 it was just that one country
0:18:50 promising a second people the land of
0:18:53 the third people
0:18:53 and what's important at this point is to
0:18:55 realize that british
0:18:57 the the british did not have a mandate
0:18:59 in palestine at this time
0:19:00 the mandate the mandate in palestine
0:19:02 started two years afterwards okay
0:19:05 so this was the ottoman empire so it's
0:19:07 now britain talking about how
0:19:08 they're going to manage parts of the
0:19:10 ottoman empire this isn't
0:19:12 by all intents and purposes not even
0:19:13 colonial this is this is hyper
0:19:15 colonialism you're talking about a
0:19:17 country you don't even have under your
0:19:18 colonial control
0:19:19 and yours promising that country which
0:19:21 you don't even have in your colonial
0:19:23 control the
0:19:24 to another people you see i don't see
0:19:26 how in any way shape or form anyone can
0:19:28 justify
0:19:29 well this is somewhat legitimizes the
0:19:31 state of israel
0:19:32 and if you look at a book for example
0:19:35 the struggle for
0:19:36 palestine written by a jew herod's hurts
0:19:39 it's a classic book on this topic
0:19:41 you'll see in the 30s what happened okay
0:19:44 in the 30s what happened is that there
0:19:46 was a
0:19:48 immigration of the jewish population
0:19:51 into what is
0:19:52 what is called israel today uh and
0:19:55 obviously
0:19:55 it was a palestine area this was uh
0:19:59 from people in russia people in jews in
0:20:01 russia 40 000 people
0:20:04 went into palestine okay now you imagine
0:20:07 this mass population
0:20:08 of a country uh which can't actually
0:20:11 cope with that
0:20:12 which start which sparked something
0:20:13 called in 1936 the arab
0:20:16 revolt 1939 you had the white paper okay
0:20:19 and then you had terrorist activity we
0:20:21 talked about hamas
0:20:22 but let's not forget that you had
0:20:23 terrorist activity by the urgon
0:20:25 and by the hagen and by levi and that
0:20:27 terrorist activity
0:20:29 was rewarded by the british empire which
0:20:31 in 1946 culminated of course in the king
0:20:34 david hotel bombing
0:20:35 which was the targeting of civilians
0:20:38 1948
0:20:39 after the after the resolution in 1947
0:20:42 by the un
0:20:43 1948 may the 13th i think it was
0:20:47 israel became what it is today now i
0:20:49 don't know why it would be
0:20:50 against morality or against liberalism
0:20:53 or against your worldview or my
0:20:55 worldview to say actually
0:20:57 the way in which your state came into
0:21:00 being
0:21:00 was established was completely immoral
0:21:03 in every single way
0:21:05 shape or form the only thing you guys
0:21:08 really have to say about that
0:21:10 is that well we have a we were there in
0:21:12 70 a.d
0:21:13 no you weren't they weren't there okay
0:21:15 just calm down for a second please
0:21:16 please
0:21:16 please bro please if okay you were there
0:21:19 70 a.d there was a siege
0:21:20 of jerusalem very well known hebron the
0:21:23 king and so on now we talk about ancient
0:21:25 history
0:21:26 here the normans were you know we always
0:21:28 talk about hastings let's talk about the
0:21:30 fact that the romans were here
0:21:31 okay there was the gaelic what they call
0:21:33 it the gaelic wars whatever
0:21:34 in before christ so some italian guy
0:21:38 comes and says we're roman we have
0:21:39 rights to britain this is the ridiculous
0:21:41 nature of the claim no one makes these
0:21:43 you have to understand guys
0:21:44 no one makes these claims except for
0:21:47 zionists understand that no one
0:21:50 legitimizes okay
0:21:52 the the the status of a state based on
0:21:55 the fact that there's archaeological
0:21:57 evidence from a thousand four hundred
0:21:58 five six thousand years ago whatever it
0:21:59 was
0:21:59 three thousand years ago two thousand
0:22:00 whatever it was yeah no one does that
0:22:03 now you guys are doing that that's very
0:22:04 well good
0:22:06 but the point is you have to understand
0:22:08 this is for all intents and purposes
0:22:10 it's a catastrophic yes oppressive way
0:22:14 in which estate has been established
0:22:16 i've made this example before i'll say
0:22:17 again
0:22:18 if isis and i'm going to make an even
0:22:20 more inflammatory comment today
0:22:22 i'm going to make a very inflammatory
0:22:23 controversial i want you to react to it
0:22:26 the way that isis conquered land which
0:22:27 is monstrous and condemnable
0:22:30 and diabolical and megalomaniacal and
0:22:32 unacceptable
0:22:34 like the adjectives yes no just so that
0:22:36 there's no it's
0:22:37 no complication i'm saying what i'm
0:22:38 saying right the way that they
0:22:40 established land in the times that they
0:22:42 did
0:22:43 was more noble even though it's
0:22:45 ridiculous than the way you did it
0:22:47 do you know why not you but the way
0:22:48 designers did you know why because at
0:22:50 least they fought for it themselves
0:22:52 the the zionists relied on the fighting
0:22:55 of
0:22:55 of the british empire with all due
0:22:57 respect you needed
0:22:59 american backing the u.n backing you
0:23:01 needed
0:23:03 i i think that sorry israel is a bastard
0:23:05 state
0:23:06 and what i mean by that it doesn't have
0:23:08 a father in fact it's a product of one
0:23:10 night stand of the un
0:23:11 and the british empire the israel does
0:23:15 not happen
0:23:17 no please let me finish please please
0:23:18 please bro please let me
0:23:20 let me let me just let me finish let me
0:23:22 finish the po
0:23:23 is a bastard state okay i'm being very
0:23:26 straightforward i don't want to give you
0:23:26 two faces and lie to you
0:23:28 why on earth should we we should appease
0:23:31 this oh
0:23:32 you should have the 1967 borders who
0:23:34 said after the second world war
0:23:36 that you're allowed to conquer
0:23:38 territories who said that you guys are
0:23:40 part of the un
0:23:41 yes israel is part of the u.n who said
0:23:44 who
0:23:44 on earth said you're now allowed to
0:23:46 conquer territories so
0:23:48 the fact that the 1967 borders of what
0:23:51 is being referred to
0:23:52 implies that the new world order
0:23:54 including america is willing to
0:23:56 acquiesce
0:23:57 to states and territories being
0:24:00 conquered conquered which is the same as
0:24:03 what isis have done
0:24:04 sorry to say but like i say it's less
0:24:05 noble it's less it's more ignorable you
0:24:07 know why
0:24:07 because isis with all their monstrous
0:24:09 and diabolical uh
0:24:10 actions they fought themselves whereas
0:24:12 you well not you but
0:24:14 the israelis had they needed the uan and
0:24:16 the uni
0:24:17 the u.s cowards i'm sorry the way that
0:24:20 they established themselves is
0:24:21 completely cowardly i'm not going to be
0:24:23 around the bush and pretend to be civil
0:24:24 here we don't need to we don't need to
0:24:26 pretend oh two-state solution
0:24:28 do you think for me to say i actually
0:24:30 believe that
0:24:31 the the the uh the way in which israel
0:24:34 established itself
0:24:35 in the first place is completely
0:24:36 oppressive and illegitimate you think
0:24:38 that makes me an anti-semite
0:24:40 if that makes me an anti-semite i'm
0:24:42 happy to be labeled as such
0:24:44 exactly good point but if this is your
0:24:46 definition of anthemicism
0:24:47 if the definition of anti-semitism has
0:24:50 become that i can't even condemn
0:24:52 the the way a conquering state yeah
0:24:55 becomes a country that i'm ready to be
0:24:57 called an anti-semite but the truth is i
0:24:58 am a sea mate myself
0:25:00 brother how are you going to be brother
0:25:01 please make me please please people
0:25:02 ain't i
0:25:03 i know i know i must seem like myself
0:25:04 right and even by the way i've done the
0:25:06 ancestry test
0:25:07 and i had some jewish in me it's my to
0:25:09 my surprise
0:25:12 and by the way when i went to gold is
0:25:13 green and i told them that they started
0:25:15 uh having a different uh attitude to be
0:25:17 all together
0:25:18 i was talking about these things bro you
0:25:19 know and then afterwards i said you know
0:25:21 i had
0:25:21 done an ancestry test and i had some
0:25:23 jewish in me they're like oh
0:25:25 i saw the smiles on their faces and
0:25:27 honestly this is the thing before you go
0:25:28 i know i spoke for a long time i'm going
0:25:29 to let you be back but please bro
0:25:31 i'm just saying this this this um this
0:25:34 pathetic
0:25:35 use of the word anti-semitism as a
0:25:37 deflection mechanism
0:25:38 of the covert narcissistic state which
0:25:41 uses a scapegoat
0:25:43 these these labels and these terms oh
0:25:46 it's anti-semitic if you talk about
0:25:47 israel it's ant symmetric if you talk
0:25:49 about the history of israel
0:25:50 if you don't agree with the two-state
0:25:51 solution the way we like it this 1967
0:25:53 borders who told you that
0:25:54 if that's what anti-semitism is then
0:25:56 everyone is an anti-semite and we don't
0:25:58 mind being labeled as such but that's
0:25:59 not what anti-muslim
0:26:01 semitism is but what anti-semitism is is
0:26:04 when you discriminate against someone
0:26:06 hatred of jews because of their
0:26:07 jewishness
0:26:08 that's what if you look at the
0:26:09 dictionary that's what it says no one is
0:26:11 saying that jews shouldn't have a
0:26:12 homeland
0:26:14 we're just saying don't make your
0:26:16 homeland
0:26:18 on the expense of someone else's
0:26:19 homeland don't what we're saying
0:26:21 just jacob this pathetic that fat slob
0:26:25 you know in in in in in saying if you if
0:26:28 i don't steal it someone else is going
0:26:29 to steal it
0:26:31 i put the middle finger up to him and to
0:26:32 his state i put the middle finger up to
0:26:34 him into his state and say you know what
0:26:36 if you're talking about stealing like
0:26:37 that
0:26:38 you know i to be honest with you we
0:26:40 don't give a damn about
0:26:42 if being labeled as anti-semitic
0:26:45 we don't give a damn about we have to
0:26:46 understand aaron wallahi
0:26:49 the only way you understand how we feel
0:26:51 if you
0:26:52 go back down memory lane you realize
0:26:55 everything was oppressive
0:26:56 everything was oppressive from 1917
0:26:58 onwards every single thing
0:26:59 you have no right to speak about
0:27:01 anything honestly everything was
0:27:03 bad then everything was bad from from
0:27:06 balfour declaration
0:27:07 all those things are not points for you
0:27:08 they're against you so how much did they
0:27:10 want to see the
0:27:10 examination of jews or that they want to
0:27:12 see all muslims in an area
0:27:13 who said that we agree with hamas on
0:27:16 every point of the
0:27:17 the charter of hamas has become the
0:27:18 quran who said that
0:27:20 i tell you something under the ottoman
0:27:22 empire jewish people
0:27:25 and you know this you will agree with
0:27:27 this
0:27:28 yeah they have been they were actually
0:27:30 fleeing from the from the christian west
0:27:32 after the inquisition in 1492 they were
0:27:34 fleeing running away
0:27:36 to the muslims where they had their
0:27:38 golden error we say this we say we
0:27:40 believe in coexistence
0:27:42 but we believe in coexistence not at our
0:27:45 expense
0:27:46 never at our expense coexistence doesn't
0:27:49 mean you come into my house
0:27:50 and say that if i don't steal it someone
0:27:52 else is going to steal it we put the
0:27:53 middle finger up
0:27:54 to people that say that or in in the way
0:27:56 that you do it sorry this is very rude
0:27:57 the way you do it in your country we do
0:27:59 this as well yeah we do that to them you
0:28:01 know that
0:28:02 if we do this one we do that one and
0:28:04 that one
0:28:05 well i we don't agree with any of this
0:28:07 bull bs
0:28:08 we don't accept it we cannot accept it
0:28:10 and this discourse is a
0:28:11 is a sham it's a sham it is a sham
0:28:15 it's not a level playing field like two
0:28:17 sizes as there's a clear oppressor
0:28:19 and oppressed as normal fingersteen says
0:28:21 there's a raper and the rapist
0:28:24 if the rapist after getting what he
0:28:26 wants he's starting the rape
0:28:28 the raped one gets up and spits he said
0:28:30 this i spoke to him
0:28:31 he said this is online he said if he
0:28:33 spits at the rapper and says you know
0:28:36 he deserves to be spat don't tell him oh
0:28:39 you why did you spit at him we need to
0:28:40 go back and circle back in history
0:28:42 come on let's be honest the truth of the
0:28:44 matter is this
0:28:45 this has been the only time for a very
0:28:48 long time
0:28:50 since i don't know 280 or something
0:28:52 where the jews have actually have a
0:28:53 chance
0:28:54 and the zionists just say to show us how
0:28:57 it would look like if you had a state
0:28:59 where they were in control and
0:29:01 unfortunately
0:29:02 they're not doing a good job of it at
0:29:03 all what they're showing us is that it's
0:29:05 the worst
0:29:06 time in history okay probably
0:29:10 with the exception of the crusades in
0:29:12 the last 2000 years
0:29:14 that there's been such oppression
0:29:15 bombing children let's not pretend i'll
0:29:17 be you know
0:29:18 yeah of course i can't outdo you i think
0:29:21 it's around for prime minister in this
0:29:22 place
0:29:23 i'm gonna run for prime minister i'll
0:29:25 vote for you i'm going to run for prime
0:29:26 minister
0:29:27 in israel i'm going to be there am i
0:29:30 with you
0:29:30 as well
0:29:34 listen to me i'm going to do it fast and
0:29:36 i'm going to go into detail i'm just
0:29:37 going to answer a few of your points
0:29:38 that you made
0:29:39 you mentioned that the british but above
0:29:41 the declaration weren't on the british
0:29:42 mandate in palestine it was still the
0:29:44 ottoman empire
0:29:44 yes that's correct that's the point i
0:29:46 always say the british the colonies
0:29:49 free the state of israel before they
0:29:50 even control the area
0:29:52 yes already was interested in splitting
0:29:53 two people apart yes
0:29:55 that's number one so the colonialists
0:29:57 who had this vision of breaking two
0:29:59 people's
0:30:00 a bond that we've had for thousands of
0:30:01 years we're the colonies british
0:30:04 that's fact number one fact number two
0:30:06 is when we talk about the colonial
0:30:09 bricks
0:30:10 occupied the area of palestine
0:30:14 and those times which people kicked the
0:30:16 colonists
0:30:17 out were the terrorist jewish
0:30:20 organizations that's the
0:30:21 that's the fact as you mentioned before
0:30:23 i cannot excellently these three
0:30:25 organizations
0:30:26 kick the colonial british out of the
0:30:28 area
0:30:29 that is called palestine what you mean
0:30:31 to say is that they committed terrorist
0:30:32 attacks
0:30:33 against the colonial power no no they
0:30:35 killed civilians all right so let's be
0:30:36 honest
0:30:37 nineteen fourteen i'm not justifying it
0:30:38 good good no way at all i'm just right
0:30:40 in the fact of
0:30:41 who can take the colonists out of that
0:30:43 area no no let's let's
0:30:45 let's be honest okay let me let me
0:30:46 challenge you before please don't run
0:30:48 please are we hiding uh we've had enough
0:30:50 of people running away from conversation
0:30:52 i know i know i don't know why you keep
0:30:54 saying you know it right no because he
0:30:55 has to go through
0:30:56 i'm not using the word run okay let me
0:30:57 tell you this very carefully
0:31:00 let me let me say something listen
0:31:02 carefully
0:31:05 no no no but let's just finish the
0:31:06 conversation listen bro okay listen
0:31:08 begin okay who was part of it
0:31:13 thank you okay who is part of the ergon
0:31:17 okay he became the president of the
0:31:21 country the premier sorry the prime
0:31:22 minister from
0:31:23 from years 1977 to 1981 correct i've
0:31:26 done it exactly yes
0:31:27 okay look he became the prime the
0:31:29 president of the prime minister of the
0:31:30 country my country don't forget all
0:31:32 right
0:31:32 he became the prime minister of the
0:31:34 listen i want i want people to really
0:31:36 think about this for a second okay
0:31:37 he became the prime minister of the
0:31:39 country okay from 1977 to 1981
0:31:43 and he was one of the perpetrators of
0:31:46 the bombing on civilians in a hotel
0:31:48 now i want to put this king david hotel
0:31:50 1946 right now i want to say i want to
0:31:52 put you this way
0:31:52 you have someone who's a terrorist from
0:31:55 the muslim community
0:31:56 he leads a group of terrorists and he
0:31:58 goes to a hotel let's say the hilton
0:31:59 hotel
0:32:00 blows himself up shoots some some people
0:32:03 some
0:32:03 people are going up to the hotels maybe
0:32:05 they're getting a robe they go
0:32:06 downstairs to get the buffet you know
0:32:07 what i'm trying to say you want to get a
0:32:09 breakfast and then you know what you get
0:32:10 some guy terrorists shoot you in the
0:32:12 head
0:32:13 okay how can they move of course you can
0:32:15 do that
0:32:16 good but but i'm just telling you the
0:32:18 point of trying to bring a different
0:32:19 point completely
0:32:20 not about the terror attacks where we
0:32:22 condemn it and as we've said before even
0:32:24 is evil no matter who perpetrates it now
0:32:26 what i'm saying is
0:32:31 kicking them out this is not kicking
0:32:32 them out this is the british empire
0:32:35 and the un rewarding a terrorist
0:32:38 organization for their terrorism that's
0:32:39 what it is
0:32:40 that's why it's happening yes i'll take
0:32:42 it to the next step yeah yeah there are
0:32:44 many people who say that the
0:32:45 that the muslim calls the way to fight
0:32:47 for palestine is
0:32:49 are you comparing someone trying to
0:32:51 bring your point is to do
0:32:53 the same thing that the that hagan did
0:32:56 against the british to do that against
0:32:58 the it's really the same
0:33:00 and then they will just do what the
0:33:01 british did they made a calculated
0:33:04 a calculated um what's called the
0:33:06 equation the price of colonialism is
0:33:08 this
0:33:09 and it's not worth it anymore so if so
0:33:11 many people in the palestinian community
0:33:12 say
0:33:13 you know what we'll use the the the the
0:33:16 forces and the idea the same means as i
0:33:17 cannot excellently work
0:33:19 and with that we will kick the israelis
0:33:21 out the only problem what i would say is
0:33:23 that could work against a colonious
0:33:25 power like the british
0:33:27 with a native land is where we are all
0:33:29 standing beautifully here
0:33:31 the problem is when it talks about in
0:33:33 the state of israel
0:33:34 they aren't colonists
0:33:57 the british could go back to britain the
0:33:59 zionist when what they call home
0:34:01 is sion is what every jew has prayed for
0:34:04 for the two last
0:34:18 let me put it to you a different way
0:34:20 everyone justifies their colonism in a
0:34:22 different way
0:34:23 sorry america they have a concept called
0:34:25 manifest destiny and by the way almost
0:34:27 every president has believed in manifest
0:34:28 destiny and westwood expansion
0:34:30 go and research it if you don't believe
0:34:31 me the point of the matter is this the
0:34:33 british empire
0:34:34 did have their own set of justifications
0:34:36 for going into lands and colonizing them
0:34:38 and this i'm saying just because you
0:34:40 have a different set of justifications
0:34:42 it does not mean
0:34:44 that it's not what it is and it's called
0:34:46 colonialism
0:34:47 the point is this and let's put it this
0:34:49 way on this point muhammad no
0:34:50 no no no no you're going to agree that
0:34:52 100 to disagree
0:34:54 okay i'll tell you why we're going to do
0:34:55 that fine because we are conflating now
0:34:58 something called zionism and judaism as
0:35:00 well
0:35:01 and judaism i can't agree that you
0:35:03 should ever be able to touch for a
0:35:04 simple reason
0:35:05 because you say this seeing the hope for
0:35:08 zion
0:35:09 not just i pray for it every day i pray
0:35:11 for it in a peaceful way and an utopia
0:35:13 where we'll be able to live together and
0:35:15 the temple will be built where it was
0:35:17 built before
0:35:18 al-aqsa will be built there
0:35:21 but it will be a place of prayer so you
0:35:23 have to destroy that no
0:35:25 no no no no destroying episodes of
0:35:27 praise
0:35:28 it will work in a way that i'm i'm not
0:35:30 god i've never done anything i haven't
0:35:31 created the world
0:35:32 i just about know when i get up in the
0:35:34 morning what time i'm going to go to bed
0:35:35 i've got no idea how it's going to
0:35:36 happen maybe if we talk we might come to
0:35:38 some idea
0:35:39 but there's going to be a place for all
0:35:40 mankind muslim brothers and jewish
0:35:43 brothers and christian brothers
0:35:44 hindus and sikhs will be able to pray
0:35:46 all will be able to pray
0:35:48 in that place now and disagree we don't
0:35:51 want to pray
0:35:53 but i said i'll tell you putting it from
0:35:55 my i tell you why from a jewish
0:35:56 perspective i'll put the full stop
0:35:58 at that point because for me that is
0:36:01 when you are crossing into my religion
0:36:03 where you have yes oh yes let me
0:36:05 question you don't mind if let me
0:36:06 just let me cross more about that i got
0:36:08 the right let's say no no sorry let me
0:36:10 let me cross more let me cross more into
0:36:11 your religion the problem is always has
0:36:13 been religion actually do you always
0:36:14 agree let me tell you why
0:36:16 i disagree because let me let me tell
0:36:17 you how there's a lot of similarities
0:36:19 between us but one of them is not
0:36:21 our conception of race there's not one
0:36:24 verse in the old testament that even
0:36:26 condemns racism
0:36:27 in fact let me tell you something with
0:36:28 all due respect the old testament the
0:36:30 hebrew bible
0:36:32 is for all intents and purposes i would
0:36:34 argue
0:36:35 you can derive from it an inference of
0:36:37 racism
0:36:38 when you're talking about god repenting
0:36:40 now please let me finish let me finish
0:36:42 let me let me finish let me finish when
0:36:44 you talk about god repenting to israel
0:36:46 when you talk about the distinction
0:36:48 between gentiles and jews we cannot
0:36:50 pretend
0:36:50 to avoid this theological set of
0:36:53 justifications
0:36:54 you do believe that you are in a
0:36:57 hierarchy with other races and you do
0:36:59 believe
0:37:00 that you are at the top of the hierarchy
0:37:02 this is a difference between us
0:37:04 yeah you have spoken and we're going to
0:37:07 defend it yeah go ahead tell you all
0:37:08 right
0:37:09 sorry to tell you you are wrong okay but
0:37:11 the simple fact is as follows go ahead
0:37:13 that means is
0:37:14 judaism is not a race it's not a
0:37:16 religion i was mentioned to you in the
0:37:17 past
0:37:18 there are many contexts what makes what
0:37:20 makes the jewish people
0:37:22 as a jewish community point number two
0:37:24 so it's not just the race because you
0:37:25 couldn't
0:37:25 you could convert into judaism even if i
0:37:28 spoke to many muslim brothers you've
0:37:29 never heard of it but you convert into
0:37:31 judaism i wouldn't advise it to anyone
0:37:33 but it's a fact so it can't be erased
0:37:38 yeah number one because it's tough and
0:37:40 number two is that's where we
0:37:41 theologically differ
0:37:42 because muslims believe i'll tell you
0:37:43 why yeah that the only way
0:37:46 to serve god the only way to go into
0:37:49 paradise whatever it is
0:37:51 is to accept islam and that's the way
0:37:54 forward
0:37:55 because god in your perspective as you
0:37:57 would call it allah
0:37:58 came for all the people of the world yes
0:38:00 to accept it through
0:38:02 the quran and that's the way into
0:38:04 paradise now the jewish perspective
0:38:07 just finished my sentence of course that
0:38:09 means this from the jewish perspective
0:38:11 is
0:38:12 it's not it's not it's not that
0:38:15 the jewish on a hierarchy and the rest
0:38:17 of the world is here
0:38:18 it is we all serve god just in a
0:38:22 different way okay that means
0:38:23 you don't have to become jewish let me
0:38:26 ask you a question
0:38:27 you're more knowledgeable than me and
0:38:28 hebrew now before you leave no no you
0:38:30 can't just do this every time you say
0:38:31 let's go go
0:38:32 calm down this is this is this is
0:38:33 transformative stuff please
0:38:35 yeah this is whatever you've got to do
0:38:37 this is more important okay
0:38:39 okay let me tell you no no no please
0:38:41 let's not dictate things to each other
0:38:42 look here's the point is this guys
0:38:46 i listen listen uh aaron
0:38:51 do you believe that there is a
0:38:53 theological difference
0:38:55 in you and me because of the fact that
0:38:59 you're jewish and what is that
0:39:00 theological difference if there is one
0:39:02 because of the ethnicity i believe there
0:39:04 is no theological difference
0:39:06 in the way what we believe in god no no
0:39:08 difference
0:39:09 between people is that i believe that
0:39:11 all people can serve god
0:39:12 in their own way okay and i don't
0:39:14 believe like muslims that you have to
0:39:15 convert to judy that you save god
0:39:17 yes now and the end result is do muslims
0:39:19 and jews you reach paradise
0:39:21 the answer simple question is yes it's
0:39:23 not creed
0:39:24 fight fights i accept that from you
0:39:26 you're basically opening
0:39:28 uh and kind of open to your open theism
0:39:31 obviously is it no it's okay
0:39:34 as long as you yeah there are battles
0:39:38 that's basically absolutely not true
0:39:40 what i'm gonna do to you right now is
0:39:41 accept what you've just said
0:39:43 okay if you listen to what i said is
0:39:46 that it can be inferred in that way i
0:39:48 didn't say that it
0:39:49 is the only interference that is the
0:39:50 misconception
0:39:53 that's you know you
0:39:57 here's what i'm trying to say look you
0:39:59 would agree with me that
0:40:00 first i totally accept your uh i'm not
0:40:03 going to force my
0:40:04 ex to jesus on you you have your own
0:40:05 ability and your father major scholar
0:40:12 by being muslims i respect that so
0:40:14 there's no reason to be a jew whatever
0:40:15 no problem
0:40:16 i'm saying that despite that being the
0:40:18 case the fact that there have been
0:40:20 theological
0:40:21 uh justifications using ethnicity is
0:40:25 still
0:40:25 current okay so for example if you said
0:40:28 to me look
0:40:29 i and the majority of muslims don't
0:40:30 believe in terrorism we look at the
0:40:32 quran and we
0:40:33 accept that however there are some group
0:40:35 of people that look at the quran
0:40:36 and justify terrorism from it we have to
0:40:38 accept that that exists so that we can
0:40:40 deal with that
0:40:41 you must accept the fact that there are
0:40:43 a lot of people in israel
0:40:45 who are hurried jews orthodox jews who
0:40:48 use
0:40:49 the bible or the hebrew old testament in
0:40:52 order to make a case
0:40:53 for a racial case for the superiority of
0:40:55 the jewish people you might not be one
0:40:57 of them what do you mean as the state of
0:40:58 israel no no as the superiors of the
0:41:00 jews people in general that
0:41:02 the jews and the gentiles are separate
0:41:04 and that the jews the jewish class is
0:41:06 higher than the gentiles there are some
0:41:07 people who say that you're not one of
0:41:08 those
0:41:09 i will know about that i i say it's a
0:41:10 misconception of understanding the
0:41:12 language and the way it's spoken and i
0:41:13 agree
0:41:13 with your jobs thanks brother but let me
0:41:15 just keep it give me two minutes two
0:41:17 minutes
0:41:18 condemn
0:41:22 is this the reason why i mentioned by
0:41:24 the way urgent and the fact that they
0:41:25 became part of the lucid party and
0:41:27 it's because we want to we want to show
0:41:29 you talk about how how much you circle
0:41:31 backwards
0:41:31 we circle backwards to the inception of
0:41:34 the state of israel and we realize
0:41:36 that you have literal terrorist
0:41:37 organizations accepted as such by the
0:41:39 way
0:41:40 by the british by the americans by the
0:41:42 u.n by everyone the international
0:41:43 community like urgon
0:41:44 being absorbed into what is now the
0:41:46 liquid luca party
0:41:48 who of course netanyahu leads which
0:41:52 leads the point being is this when when
0:41:55 israel points to finger hamas they have
0:41:56 to look at their own beginnings
0:42:02 hamas had no has no different
0:42:05 they both believe in a one state
0:42:06 solution let's be honest both of them
0:42:08 believe
0:42:08 that it might work listen together the
0:42:12 the difference between the two is just
0:42:14 tactics and
0:42:15 capabilities that's what you need to
0:42:16 understand but the difference is one is
0:42:18 a group
0:42:19 which is being condemned uh
0:42:20 internationally and the other one is a
0:42:22 state which is being funded by the
0:42:23 americans so we talk later on
0:42:25 yeah all right thank you thank you