02 - Establishing an Islamic State: Is it an Obligation (Fardh)? (2020-08-26) ​

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0:00:28 and we like to save sahib
0:00:29 which we have a reference everyone
0:00:30 referred to it in a
0:00:32 constructive way and this is the sahifa
0:00:34 which was written which is
0:00:35 both a constitution for a federal state
0:00:39 of muslims
0:00:40 because he mentioned even the tribes of
0:00:41 manila
0:00:45 themselves and that every one of these
0:00:47 having like an internal insurance and
0:00:50 and benefit for them for their own needy
0:00:52 each group of these will
0:00:54 support and and help the needy of that
0:00:56 group so every unit is like
0:00:58 like an entity by itself which has its
0:01:00 own social security social coverage and
0:01:02 so on
0:01:03 and their relation with each other is
0:01:05 well regretted by islam and their head
0:01:06 is the vassal so the prasad is about
0:01:08 both the head of the muhajiroun state
0:01:11 and the head of the federation
0:01:12 and the jews joined as a confederate as
0:01:14 an alliance
0:01:16 but very close alliance with certain
0:01:18 rights and privileges and the jews are
0:01:19 mentioned there
0:01:20 with destruction with this political
0:01:22 structure as they are allies of certain
0:01:25 tribes of
0:01:26 of uh uh certain tribes of uh
0:01:30 of the of the answer
0:01:35 he doesn't mention
0:01:39 not their names and their own structures
0:01:40 but there they themselves are split in
0:01:43 entities which have
0:01:44 certain alliances so the allies of money
0:01:46 off they have these
0:01:47 features the alliance these allies have
0:01:49 these features
0:01:50 so there are about seven two states not
0:01:52 only the three tribes
0:01:54 they they were already split in such
0:01:55 states so that's the nature of my
0:01:57 of of sake so it is true if some muslim
0:02:01 and some modern islamists say the world
0:02:04 did not establish a
0:02:06 state in medina he was only there here
0:02:08 but it's not true that he remained die
0:02:10 until he died
0:02:11 like rather zach and the guys were there
0:02:13 about islamic state as it
0:02:15 exists but they're trying to argue that
0:02:17 uh for secularism
0:02:18 they will be influenced by the western
0:02:20 point of view and some
0:02:22 orientalists suggested such a point
0:02:24 because they do not have a comprehensive
0:02:25 way yes
0:02:26 in that part up to sahih without any
0:02:29 doubt
0:02:30 it is it is clear and obvious that that
0:02:34 the barcelona did not establish a state
0:02:37 he became automatically by nature over
0:02:39 the immigration head of the muhajiri
0:02:41 community or state but they did not
0:02:43 establish any state in the city
0:02:44 the existing state continued they became
0:02:46 islamic war they accepted islam and
0:02:48 ruled by islam
0:02:49 and the uh this part of them killed
0:02:51 evidence by their embracement of islam
0:02:53 after sahih this entity which is
0:02:56 islamic federation and
0:03:00 a wider confederation in which even
0:03:02 non-muslim entities
0:03:04 with their own laws there's no there's
0:03:06 nothing related to the laws mentioned
0:03:07 there
0:03:09 there's one small modification later on
0:03:10 when user it was prohibited
0:03:12 a similar agreement which we have also
0:03:15 in writing and we have recorded with the
0:03:18 people of najiran
0:03:19 is similar have all the features that
0:03:22 like the the one of the jews
0:03:23 but is more structured it it develops
0:03:26 issues of taxation and jesus and so on
0:03:28 but also develops the prohibition of
0:03:30 usury even for this
0:03:31 it is independent or semi-independent to
0:03:34 confederate confederate members
0:03:35 so they have their own laws they can't
0:03:37 have their clearly they have their own
0:03:39 markets they have
0:03:40 they can produce hammer they can't sell
0:03:42 hammer there even some places
0:03:44 like in in in the persian empire they
0:03:46 have they have even legalized
0:03:48 prostitution
0:03:49 we don't bother about that it's none of
0:03:51 our business our business is that
0:03:53 in financial transaction and in measures
0:03:56 and
0:03:56 ways and means the
0:03:59 agreed upon system is a new serious find
0:04:02 a clean
0:04:03 uh proper islam for islamic or
0:04:06 fundamentally natural uh economic system
0:04:10 and otherwise they have no other
0:04:12 obligation have a complete petition for
0:04:14 their way of life or dean et cetera as
0:04:15 they wish
0:04:17 and they have to contribute to the
0:04:18 protection of the islamic state although
0:04:19 they could have even their own
0:04:21 militia and army that's israel in
0:04:24 in in in agreement of natural so that's
0:04:29 what we have there
0:04:30 so question is the establishment of
0:04:33 islamic state obligation no it
0:04:35 it it emerged nationally when there was
0:04:37 enough muslims
0:04:38 to be a majority in a tribe which was a
0:04:40 state at that time so that they became
0:04:42 islamic by because they would have tom
0:04:44 king
0:04:44 and because they are having the time
0:04:46 king
0:04:47 they uh they became automatically
0:04:50 islamic
0:04:51 because it's unconceivable very muslim
0:04:53 understand their islamists are the
0:04:54 obligation as a community
0:04:56 so what what them to do now with the
0:04:58 situation where obviously the muslims
0:04:59 are not understanding
0:05:01 their obligation and so on the only way
0:05:03 is that now
0:05:05 to educate the people that you are a
0:05:08 majority now if you are real muslims
0:05:10 then you can and you have the power if
0:05:13 you have something they don't have the
0:05:14 power for example
0:05:15 in certain muslims in most muslim
0:05:17 countries the powers is reserved by the
0:05:18 military or by family or something like
0:05:20 that
0:05:21 and the muslims are marginalized so we
0:05:23 have to get them the power back
0:05:25 and you have to give them a dollar so
0:05:27 that they are awake to their obligation
0:05:29 but even in that you are not an
0:05:31 established state you are just awaiting
0:05:33 them to their obligation
0:05:35 until they're down to the dawah the
0:05:37 moment that happened
0:05:38 the state will be automatically done in
0:05:40 that sense islamic
0:05:43 if it doesn't meaning you did not either
0:05:45 you though other people are not muslim
0:05:46 they are muslim by name but they have
0:05:48 they became so that this job would be
0:05:51 again
0:05:52 islam they establish islam again in
0:05:54 their mind and
0:05:55 giving a structural point of view what
0:05:57 islam is all about
0:06:01 so the question is is is based on
0:06:04 on a fallacy is it uh is it far crying
0:06:08 or fire
0:06:09 neither more what's 45 is that if you
0:06:11 have them clean if you have enough power
0:06:13 either by having the majority
0:06:15 which having the power sometimes the
0:06:16 majority is oppressed so
0:06:18 you have to move they have they have to
0:06:20 be energized and
0:06:23 motivated to get the power which belongs
0:06:25 to them
0:06:27 physically and naturally and by sharia
0:06:31 given to them because
0:06:35 take your power back enforce yourself
0:06:38 and since you are a believer
0:06:41 now you have the time king you have to
0:06:43 your obligation to do that
0:06:45 if you don't do your obligation you are
0:06:46 sinful
0:06:49 this job is to educate the people and
0:06:51 get them in this process
0:06:53 not to establish a state state will be
0:06:55 established
0:06:57 was established getting the power to the
0:06:58 ummah what needed
0:07:00 to do by troubling the existing regime
0:07:02 if you say
0:07:03 whatever by by peaceful mean by military
0:07:06 means whatever it is
0:07:08 but for that you have to have the um on
0:07:10 your side
0:07:11 on the majority of the majority of the
0:07:12 almond you said without majority you
0:07:14 don't have your
0:07:17 and you have there's no reason if the
0:07:19 person did not use the power he was
0:07:20 medina
0:07:21 he did not tell the people go
0:07:24 go and and and killed who deserved to be
0:07:27 killed
0:07:28 according to sharia according to all
0:07:29 principles of war at that time unless
0:07:31 even that time said take permission from
0:07:33 saddam huss he did not suffer he did not
0:07:35 marginalize that
0:07:40 so clearly the question has to be
0:07:42 phrased differently
0:07:44 all the issues with three days and so on
0:07:46 if there is an islamic state established
0:07:48 we should not leave the the the position
0:07:50 of khalifa being empty
0:07:52 and for that that the constitution
0:07:54 should be written
0:07:56 an idiot constitution will be written
0:07:57 that khilafah election the election for
0:07:59 khalifa
0:08:00 is done in a streamlined way there's a
0:08:02 deputy
0:08:03 appointed to them either elected with
0:08:04 him separately or in one ticket
0:08:06 depending upon what the people think the
0:08:08 most the most reasonable
0:08:10 and effective way it is it's clearly
0:08:13 that the deputy will be working with the
0:08:14 khalifa all the time
0:08:15 will be representing him when he is out
0:08:17 of the capital city etc
0:08:19 so it is you would say that it doesn't
0:08:22 seem to be
0:08:23 a reasonable idea that deputy should be
0:08:25 elected communities about it so
0:08:26 there will be there will be people
0:08:28 competing for deputy independent from
0:08:30 those competing for the khalifa
0:08:32 separately uh so because you may in this
0:08:35 situation get a deputy to a khalifa
0:08:37 which they are not in synchronized not
0:08:38 have the same is they had
0:08:40 which would make the government
0:08:41 governance not effective
0:08:43 so it may be one ticket a ticket which
0:08:45 has a hadith one debut second debate for
0:08:47 example
0:08:48 and the people vote for this for the
0:08:49 ticket and the personality of the ticket
0:08:51 which has become practical america
0:08:53 actually the system is theoretically the
0:08:54 deputy is independently elected
0:08:56 theoretically
0:08:57 but practically it has come clear that
0:08:59 it is no way to elect someone
0:09:01 as a deputy to a president or vice
0:09:03 president who is not elected and chosen
0:09:05 by the president
0:09:06 it doesn't work this way that's that's
0:09:08 how it works practically
0:09:10 in some states because all election
0:09:11 america are done on the state level some
0:09:13 states make it that duty
0:09:15 to be like that some say does not pick a
0:09:16 deal until now by the way but it's not a
0:09:18 constitutional demand
0:09:19 which is obviously a deficiency in the
0:09:20 american constitution but they amended
0:09:22 it by laws
0:09:23 by by laws after that so it has to
0:09:26 something like that to resident when the
0:09:28 khalifa goes away
0:09:29 and also the most efficient way is to
0:09:31 limit the time of the khalifa
0:09:33 that's an agreement that's the nature of
0:09:34 constitutional confusion is both like
0:09:36 the sahava the concession is both
0:09:38 it is like a basic law and an agreement
0:09:41 between the
0:09:42 uh the the ruler and and the and the
0:09:45 people
0:09:45 so when even an amendment of the
0:09:47 constitution should be not done
0:09:49 except by a big majority and also even
0:09:52 possibly absolute vote
0:09:53 because it's like an agreement it's like
0:09:55 it's both a contract under a law
0:09:57 having both what aspects in itself so it
0:09:59 has to be
0:10:00 treated like that it is it is not wise
0:10:03 to have uh
0:10:04 unlimited time for the hadith even in
0:10:06 time past there was no limitation
0:10:07 because the people did not agree on that
0:10:09 there was no agreement there was no
0:10:10 tradition for that
0:10:11 but there's no issue of that it can be
0:10:14 limited to a reasonable time
0:10:16 and then there will be the election and
0:10:17 so on and for that in that case the
0:10:20 the regulation of the follower would be
0:10:22 immediately in america for example
0:10:24 practicality of the other nations have
0:10:26 been practicing in revolution in america
0:10:27 at the moment for example
0:10:29 it was assassinated the it was certain
0:10:31 that he's dead
0:10:32 immediately johnson gave an oath within
0:10:34 the same day he didn't even work three
0:10:36 days didn't need
0:10:37 to water the system is streamlined and
0:10:39 clear but this is obviously our long
0:10:41 development and experience of humanity
0:10:43 in the overall developments etc
0:10:47 so that that that issue of the head of
0:10:50 state position being empty
0:10:51 can be it can be uh
0:10:55 fixed probably with the with with the
0:10:57 with the proper constitutional
0:10:59 probably called structured constitution
0:11:01 with with properly
0:11:03 developed ways and means some of them
0:11:05 enshrined the constitution itself
0:11:06 don't underestimate the importance of
0:11:08 ways and means because if you don't have
0:11:10 ways that means the well developed
0:11:11 you will have we will have shots falter
0:11:13 like what happened
0:11:15 because there's no clear way why did
0:11:17 someone say why did the master did not
0:11:19 clarify a clear way he gave the for
0:11:22 the principal if he would if he would
0:11:24 have given a procedure for that time
0:11:27 it would have been perceived as being
0:11:28 the law until your qiyamah
0:11:30 and it will make islam not valid for
0:11:32 every time because the future will
0:11:34 change
0:11:35 the procedure will be valid for the time
0:11:36 when people are riding and
0:11:38 transporting in the back of camels and
0:11:41 the
0:11:43 distances were crossed by in months
0:11:46 it will not be suitable and valid for
0:11:47 the time of computers now
0:11:49 so it is that's the reason in almost
0:11:52 every islamic injunctions
0:11:55 ways and means are usually left to the
0:11:57 is the head of the future and this is a
0:11:59 sign that's coming from allah if it had
0:12:00 been come to muhammad he would have
0:12:02 adopted the ways and means of his uh of
0:12:05 his own coalition his own tribe
0:12:07 also some ways that means in dharma
0:12:09 there are examples there
0:12:11 other tribes have some ways and means
0:12:13 they did not advise of any way or me
0:12:16 the only thing is yet he was consulting
0:12:18 widely in damascus it was in the
0:12:19 consultation
0:12:20 direct democracy in damascus
0:12:26 that's a fundamental everyone
0:12:27 participating everyone present
0:12:29 and even that was an ad hoc and
0:12:31 spontaneous which is suitable for a city
0:12:33 of the size of medina
0:12:35 once it is become bigger you have to
0:12:37 split them in in
0:12:39 in city paths and you have to the coming
0:12:41 of the people has to be organized
0:12:42 somehow some way it can't be just
0:12:44 failing when coming
0:12:45 hazard and thereby it will be ways that
0:12:47 procedure to make things
0:12:48 on the count of numbers and making is
0:12:50 the meeting proper is it comprehensive
0:12:52 everyone present
0:12:53 or at least the quorum is present all of
0:12:55 this has that's developed with time
0:12:56 because the experienced people recognize
0:12:58 that
0:12:58 this such regulatory uh
0:13:02 ways and means uh are desirable and
0:13:05 needed otherwise you will have
0:13:06 five thousand for the vlogs a long time
0:13:10 there was no way to to
0:13:11 to to give any uh ways and and procedure
0:13:14 like that
0:13:15 uh i unless islam will become
0:13:18 will become rigid and will not be
0:13:20 suitable for the for the for the
0:13:21 for the world at riyam so it gave the
0:13:24 principles other people have to develop
0:13:26 and they were developing the sahaba
0:13:27 develop the rama developed it had
0:13:29 established he started the shore of the
0:13:31 people of badr and so on with
0:13:33 various reasonable consideration
0:13:35 according to his time
0:13:36 but that all has been toppled and
0:13:38 destroyed by marawi on user power
0:13:40 and started governing like islam
0:13:45 the islamic ruling system has been
0:13:46 mutilated and deformed
0:13:48 and this deformed form has been touched
0:13:50 up and
0:13:51 giving a nice paint by malarias are made
0:13:53 as if it's the islamic ruling
0:13:55 and so all anyone after malawi until now
0:13:57 essentially is
0:13:58 is only islamic by name even the canada
0:14:01 instrument all the husbands
0:14:02 is dear in his heart it's only a
0:14:04 symbolic
0:14:06 you can't barely recognize that as
0:14:08 anything or any similarity to the the
0:14:10 time of
0:14:11 something it's completely different
0:14:14 utterly and
0:14:14 contradictory different
0:14:18 some people may think i'll go to the
0:14:20 extreme and say it's not even islamic it
0:14:21 says
0:14:22 it's a cover system okay if you want to
0:14:23 say that say it i would say i wouldn't
0:14:25 say it's a
0:14:26 system because all generally the old
0:14:28 relation and laws and regulations are
0:14:30 essentially islamic
0:14:31 and the one who are not islamic have
0:14:33 been formulated and played with
0:14:35 like for example putting your son
0:14:38 to be your hair is covered up by by by a
0:14:42 false maya
0:14:43 by abused via is not declared as a
0:14:45 constitutional article so you could say
0:14:47 it is still my eyes there even if it
0:14:48 supports by albert speyer
0:14:50 acknowledging the maya is the principle
0:14:52 the election is the principle
0:14:54 that it should be and
0:15:09 it never happened in islamic history as
0:15:11 far as i know that
0:15:12 that when the khalifa is someone who
0:15:14 stands on some tower or something say
0:15:16 the kharifa is dead the long lives of
0:15:19 has never happened like that
0:15:21 the announcement and the
0:15:24 majesty or the uh the family or the
0:15:28 uh sheikh al-islam met with the leaders
0:15:31 of the
0:15:31 of the country and so on and they gave
0:15:33 bayatu so and so
0:15:34 all this essentially moralistic is just
0:15:37 a formality but still
0:15:39 it's still indicating that the legality
0:15:41 comes from the
0:15:42 and not from being uh here for being
0:15:45 appointed by the previous hadith
0:15:47 he has to have a bayer
0:15:50 that's what that's what what has been
0:15:52 the
0:15:53 the mutilated version of by islam but
0:15:56 it's still
0:15:57 nominally abaya if you don't forget that
0:16:00 is acceptable
0:16:01 these regimes are uh you prefer to call
0:16:04 them coffee
0:16:04 call them if you want i wouldn't call it
0:16:07 i would say still the fact that
0:16:09 nominally it is it's by baya and maya is
0:16:12 necessary
0:16:14 still make it at least symbolically
0:16:16 islamic
0:16:19 so from if if we recognize all of these
0:16:21 things it seems to be then
0:16:23 the issue of in a matter of establishing
0:16:26 instead
0:16:27 you don't you don't establish what if
0:16:28 the state is established if that
0:16:30 has happened with the quran called you
0:16:33 are you're standing on your feet you
0:16:35 have authority
0:16:36 how it has come through natural
0:16:38 development through a revolution
0:16:40 through an immigration whatever whatever
0:16:44 how it happens then
0:16:47 the community because the community is
0:16:49 the one addressed the majority
0:16:51 the one who have the tamkin is the
0:16:52 majority if the majority does not have
0:16:54 attempted
0:16:55 then there is no obligation to
0:16:59 you are not you want to have you are not
0:17:01 obliged
0:17:04 you should not even do if you if you as
0:17:06 a person
0:17:08 you are sinful that's one part of
0:17:10 getting some keen
0:17:12 is to avoid being taken as a single
0:17:14 person
0:17:15 in a comfort system because this way you
0:17:17 certified the coffee system and you will
0:17:18 be applying
0:17:19 which we are not allowed only if the
0:17:22 reason can clean
0:17:23 by the majority of muslims taking power
0:17:25 really and exercising
0:17:27 and then you it will become almost
0:17:29 automatic so
0:17:41 by exercising your power you should take
0:17:43 the power which allah gave to you
0:17:44 initially
0:17:45 naturally as as human beings and
0:17:49 that's part of the technology and
0:17:53 when you take the power based on
0:17:56 that consideration not because you are
0:17:58 arabs not because you are
0:18:00 you're white or black no because you are
0:18:03 a muslim believer who allah give
0:18:05 authority and make harifo
0:18:07 and earth so take as a community the
0:18:10 power
0:18:11 which you deserve and it belongs to you
0:18:13 and the moment you have taken the power
0:18:14 on this
0:18:15 this and this on this premise is on this
0:18:17 education on this
0:18:18 point of view on this understanding then
0:18:22 the state has has emerged and it it will
0:18:24 be necessary ruling with what allah has
0:18:26 revealed according to the message
0:18:27 of the people and their level of
0:18:28 sophistication they had in a small tribe
0:18:31 maybe they
0:18:32 like in taliban what the poor guy says
0:18:34 obviously they have only the han from
0:18:36 what happened they have
0:18:38 the dark edge islamic understanding of
0:18:41 you're not expecting any more than that
0:18:43 you try to educate them obviously but
0:18:45 they didn't expect from it about that
0:18:46 that's all what they can and that's what
0:18:48 account them for the scholars may be
0:18:51 accounted more on that
0:18:52 that they are accepted to be more
0:18:53 quality
0:19:00 500 600 years in the darkest time of
0:19:04 islamic history
0:19:05 and never bothered going back here to
0:19:06 see what was really what was really
0:19:08 really
0:19:09 and it's just an enormous job really to
0:19:12 go back and
0:19:13 and some modern islamists including
0:19:16 myself and others are going
0:19:18 digging back they are they just they
0:19:20 have given up on these pawardi and so on
0:19:22 and these books are console
0:19:24 they just simply it doesn't give you any
0:19:26 any satisfaction
0:19:27 it doesn't show what islam is about and
0:19:29 made islam also give islam a bad name
0:19:31 by other nations islam though as
0:19:33 represented by the mukhalin and so on is
0:19:35 not persuasive
0:19:36 and still it's just gaining many
0:19:38 followers because the fundamental
0:19:40 is pure and clear and these these
0:19:43 imaginary and
0:19:44 philosophically unsound claims about
0:19:46 allah being a trinity or having a son
0:19:48 or idols and so on is obviously not
0:19:51 school thinking about what
0:19:52 in front of all of this is because
0:19:54 sanskrit
0:19:55 was well established and well proven
0:19:58 now that's that's it but if it comes to
0:20:00 laws and regulations understand the
0:20:02 state
0:20:02 what we're offering to the people is is
0:20:05 is laughable
0:20:11 um sorry to follow on from this question
0:20:13 um so just to
0:20:15 summarize so the narration about dying
0:20:18 the death of jahilia this
0:20:28 the husband interpretation is partly
0:20:29 correct what what had it mentioned is
0:20:31 that
0:20:32 the people at the time of salaam
0:20:35 they were some of them immigrated
0:20:38 some of them immigrated and gave bayern
0:20:42 some of them immigrated and gave baya
0:20:45 and some of them
0:20:45 they stayed in their tribes they could
0:20:48 establish the referendum islam they were
0:20:50 not persecuted they are allowed to stay
0:20:51 there and they like what the problem
0:20:53 called
0:20:53 the muslim the outsider the foreigner
0:20:55 the one who do not carry that the word
0:20:57 here does not mean bedouins that means
0:20:59 those who and that's disgusting in one
0:21:01 of our books extensively with the
0:21:02 meaning
0:21:04 by the legion going becoming
0:21:07 not becoming bedouin after hijano
0:21:09 becoming leaving the
0:21:10 the the the state the islamic citizens
0:21:14 allegiance and departing that after you
0:21:16 have accepted it that's not permissible
0:21:18 but actually originally you are outside
0:21:20 and you will be living outside in a new
0:21:22 tribe in your village
0:21:23 and not giving back to the central
0:21:24 government that's perfect that was in
0:21:26 the temple of it was available
0:21:27 and under this and that's that uh that
0:21:30 already
0:21:31 made an injection to anyone he sent
0:21:32 about the people so ask them three into
0:21:34 this islam
0:21:34 if there is islam then ask them either
0:21:37 to
0:21:38 come to the toilet
0:21:42 which does not mean it's a physical
0:21:44 intimidation meaning joining the islamic
0:21:46 state
0:21:46 as citizen and become part of it
0:21:48 possibly
0:21:49 as a federal entity or
0:21:52 if they wish they can stay like arable
0:21:54 muslim like the one non-citizen
0:21:56 the one not carrying the the citizenship
0:21:59 the
0:22:00 the state belonging that is fine
0:22:04 but in that case they have nothing in in
0:22:06 the islamic surgery to
0:22:07 expect they don't get anything from
0:22:09 their body unless they fight with us
0:22:11 in a certain button then they get
0:22:12 something otherwise
0:22:14 they don't get anything from us they
0:22:15 don't get any money they don't get any
0:22:16 support they've got nothing there
0:22:18 they're outside
0:22:19 they have their own affairs to manage so
0:22:21 that was on temple for salsa
0:22:25 but they have their own entity or their
0:22:26 own allegiance but someone who is dying
0:22:29 like this or someone who lives in
0:22:30 wilderness neither acknowledging this
0:22:32 fighting with these
0:22:33 because they will be done for him and a
0:22:35 foreign entity nor he is joining
0:22:37 so he has no buyer to anybody he's not
0:22:40 believing into the outward he is living
0:22:42 like what they call it like a terrorist
0:22:44 like a uh
0:22:45 highway robber this one who will die
0:22:47 there is
0:22:48 you have to have an authority if there
0:22:50 is an authority which is worthy of
0:22:51 taking you out you have to
0:22:52 if there's no authority then obviously
0:22:55 you are not asked to
0:22:56 a legitimate authority so that's the
0:22:58 meaning of the hadith
0:23:00 one of it is obviously is that which
0:23:02 which which
0:23:05 encourages to conclude about the three
0:23:07 days and so on is that you have to make
0:23:09 sure that there is an authority
0:23:10 which is worthy of you don't need to
0:23:12 give by but there must be an authority
0:23:14 which you
0:23:16 accept your acceptance even if you did
0:23:18 not go and shake hand or even send the
0:23:20 letter
0:23:20 i give my buyer that's not necessary but
0:23:22 you can't do it you can express it but
0:23:23 it's not necessary you don't even
0:23:25 for example even their election is not
0:23:27 conceivable that everyone will attend
0:23:28 they say but those who did not attempt
0:23:30 they should accept a result of the
0:23:31 majority
0:23:33 if they don't accept that they are
0:23:35 rebelling
0:23:36 how come you will accept you must accept
0:23:40 what the majority has chosen so i am
0:23:41 accepted and this is you must believe
0:23:43 that this way
0:23:44 in your neck unless you have a good
0:23:46 reason to believe that this is not
0:23:48 whether you buy and this is
0:23:50 that's something else so that's the
0:23:52 meaning of the hadith of mahmouth
0:23:55 the one who is out of it outside this a
0:23:57 system of an organized society the one
0:24:00 who lives like
0:24:02 what they call it like living in the
0:24:03 jungle the one who lives in the
0:24:05 uh according to the law of the jungle
0:24:08 not organizing organization or in
0:24:12 your local state if you prepare relative
0:24:14 to the islamic federation you will get
0:24:15 to be in your tribe outside
0:24:17 or you prefer to be living in england
0:24:19 for example who are not oppressed in
0:24:20 your religion
0:24:21 you can exercise your specific religion
0:24:23 you are not forced to do any haram
0:24:25 against your will or drop any duty
0:24:32 so you are not oppressed you are not
0:24:34 obliged to immigrate
0:24:36 you don't need to you you don't need to
0:24:38 have a buyer in that case
0:24:41 because you are allowed specifically
0:24:43 like the muslims
0:24:56 years and decades and centuries until
0:24:58 you became
0:25:21 and he established that tradition even
0:25:23 though after him continued with that
0:25:25 tradition and continued several
0:25:26 generations
0:25:27 without any issues with the muslims so
0:25:29 that's that's
0:25:30 that's that's the correct understanding
0:25:32 is that whenever there is a buyer
0:25:34 available
0:25:36 you should have buyer you should not be
0:25:39 living outside
0:25:41 belonging to an islamic community if
0:25:43 it's available but if you are it's not
0:25:45 available you are living with them in
0:25:46 england
0:25:47 or in then it is
0:25:50 the issue of does not come into
0:25:51 consideration you are living outside the
0:25:53 domain
0:25:54 with information obviously because you
0:25:56 are not persecuted in your deen
0:25:59 and you are able to establish at least
0:26:01 your your individual level
0:26:02 uh so
0:26:06 does not come in like for example
0:26:09 an islamic state is established
0:26:10 somewhere in the world
0:26:13 except for islamic state or are the one
0:26:16 in england
0:26:17 obliged to immigrate no they can't be
0:26:19 great definitely undesirable and they
0:26:20 may be encouraged to do
0:26:22 but are
0:26:32 i am a citizen and they have obligation
0:26:33 i will be called for the army i will be
0:26:35 paying my zakat in the treasury and
0:26:37 other taxes as as necessary etc
0:26:45 it's void there's there's the conditions
0:26:50 and he's not dying the death of jairia
0:26:54 because he's allowed this specifically
0:26:55 you know some of the sahaba who were
0:26:58 able to protect themselves
0:26:59 where in in in mecca even after the
0:27:02 heger one of them is
0:27:10 uh his son i think and uh
0:27:14 was was taken prisoner of war and some
0:27:17 relatives of
0:27:18 his friend one of you were killed and so
0:27:20 on
0:27:21 and then one time he was sitting with
0:27:25 safran in the shadow of the kaaba and
0:27:26 they were mourning what has happened to
0:27:27 them and they said
0:27:28 wear it not for my girls i have only
0:27:30 guessed their daughters
0:27:32 if someone could take with them i will
0:27:33 go poison my my
0:27:35 my sword go sneak to medina play
0:27:38 play muslim or play tricks until i kill
0:27:41 muhammad
0:27:42 so someone took the opportunity your
0:27:45 daughters are my daughters
0:27:47 don't worry halas covenant they are my
0:27:49 daughters you go
0:27:51 so everybody himself and went he came
0:27:54 from madina
0:27:56 and when almost saw him say this this
0:27:58 pig he called him this pig
0:28:00 he's a shaytan of course she is the one
0:28:02 who was was
0:28:04 encouraging bother to fight as the one
0:28:06 who is
0:28:07 flaming the water or the is
0:28:10 inflaming the flames of war be careful
0:28:14 of
0:28:15 held him from his neck myself let him go
0:28:19 say what bring you he said
0:28:22 this is the greeting good morning allah
0:28:25 gave us
0:28:26 give us a better greeting than this one
0:28:28 he said but this was this is
0:28:30 the greeting of you and your
0:28:31 grandfathers and grandfather temple
0:28:33 that's the one that said so
0:28:34 don't bring you away said i came for
0:28:37 this poor guy you have taken as prisoner
0:28:38 of war maybe i can run from him say
0:28:40 what is this sword for say the sword
0:28:42 because i'm traveling
0:28:43 and they're traveling across arabia at
0:28:45 the time it's quite dangerous you have
0:28:46 to have a sword that's called this
0:28:48 standard weapon of any traveler no let
0:28:51 me tell you the story of the sword
0:28:52 this sword is poisoned and you start
0:28:54 with
0:28:55 the shadow of the kaaba and you just
0:28:57 said this and he said this and this and
0:28:58 that and you came here
0:29:00 but don't force your energy allah will
0:29:02 protect me from you
0:29:06 i was in a state of shock
0:29:10 we were always doubting that you but
0:29:12 what that what you said that
0:29:14 nobody else knew we were the only two
0:29:16 there
0:29:17 nobody whatsoever he did that
0:29:21 clearly the idols did not hear that
0:29:22 because they don't hear no anything
0:29:24 only allah must have known that and
0:29:25 inform you
0:29:29 release his prayer release the prisoner
0:29:31 for him this is his son
0:29:33 so there is himself and then he asked
0:29:36 her permission said let me go to mecca
0:29:38 allow me and i will try to make dow
0:29:41 there and then make their life miserable
0:29:43 as they made the life of the muslim
0:29:44 israel you're the best so he went he did
0:29:48 not get by
0:29:48 he didn't say he didn't become a citizen
0:29:50 in medina
0:29:51 because he becomes there you have to
0:29:53 give bayer so he went back
0:29:55 in in makkah allah vistafan was upset
0:29:58 and swore that he would never talk to
0:29:59 him and
0:30:00 that covenant was broken obviously he
0:30:01 returned against
0:30:04 it until the first time i think
0:30:05 conquered until
0:30:08 he immigrated to madina and he was
0:30:11 sufficiently strong to protect himself
0:30:12 and he has many muslims with him
0:30:14 and he was making the life of miserable
0:30:18 so it's not only the people of havisha
0:30:22 but he was not obliged obviously he was
0:30:24 not able to to uh to
0:30:25 apply any rules of our community or
0:30:28 general rules of islamic state
0:30:30 they were dealing usury they were having
0:30:32 their prostitutes there have they have
0:30:34 they have official procedures they have
0:30:35 banners there
0:30:36 and they have everything i was living in
0:30:37 that society without any problem
0:30:40 but he was doing his prayer they were
0:30:41 doing his islamic obligation as
0:30:42 individual personnel are coming down
0:30:48 so that's another one
0:30:51 another another one of the sahabah uh uh
0:30:55 i i remember his name in a minute uh did
0:30:58 not immigrate in fifth west because his
0:31:01 the same tribe obama was a low tribe of
0:31:03 college by the way lower tribe
0:31:05 but not as low as that time several
0:31:07 packers uh
0:31:08 his his people he wanted to immediately
0:31:10 why are you getting we protect you
0:31:12 nobody can touch you so
0:31:13 he stayed and then
0:31:16 in the conquest of makkah said said to
0:31:19 him
0:31:20 your people were better than my people
0:31:21 they protected you say now your people
0:31:23 are better than my because they
0:31:25 although they prosecuted you but they
0:31:26 were the cause for you to immigrate and
0:31:28 get get the high rank of obviously this
0:31:31 is a polite way of answering that your
0:31:33 people are better than my people anyway
0:31:35 even if they were bad to you that would
0:31:36 get you to immigration and go through
0:31:38 them
0:31:39 the the higher rank of immigrants and
0:31:41 the great benefit of immigration
0:31:42 and they stated that mecca did not get a
0:31:44 brexit but he was he
0:31:46 he he he was allowed to there and he
0:31:48 lived there until until the conquest
0:31:50 without any problem obviously you could
0:31:53 not do any enforcing any public laws of
0:31:55 the islam or
0:31:55 within the society in islamic society
0:31:58 but he's actually
0:31:59 getting many people to islam and he was
0:32:01 protecting himself
0:32:03 so it's not as as as some people think
0:32:06 or have a construction in their mind
0:32:08 it's not like that it's hadith
0:32:11 if there is an imam and you are a
0:32:12 citizen that state
0:32:15 because in that state then this imam
0:32:17 which has has
0:32:19 deserved to have a buyer with yourself
0:32:22 elected probably then you must regard
0:32:25 him as your imam and
0:32:26 give god even if you did not elect him
0:32:28 it doesn't matter be elected because
0:32:30 there will be always
0:32:31 a minority who shall not agree with them
0:32:33 but that's not that that does not give
0:32:35 them
0:32:35 the permission not to know that they
0:32:38 have maya in their neck and
0:32:39 obey and listen does that mean it
0:32:41 happened is that your way and listen
0:32:43 then you are offensive with the usual
0:32:44 condition but you will be understood
0:32:46 so if they don't say go now
0:32:49 everyone in the in that location will uh
0:32:52 who is able to carry weapons carry
0:32:53 women's and we are going to a battle
0:32:54 campaign
0:33:08 who has been elected or or or
0:33:12 gotten by out properly it does not mean
0:33:14 that you have
0:33:15 yourself to do but i know just opposite
0:33:17 maybe you did not give bayer maybe he
0:33:19 did not do the election
0:33:20 maybe you didn't like this one like for
0:33:22 example
0:33:23 he was not disobeying human even he said
0:33:25 i hate you i don't like you
0:33:30 and he asked permission to go to shop
0:33:32 from the one he disliked
0:33:33 but you know the stima and he has the
0:33:35 obligation to me but he does not like to
0:33:37 be with him in the same city even
0:33:38 you want to leave the city fine you can
0:33:40 say you can live
0:33:42 with all means and join the army with
0:33:44 all means that's your right
0:33:45 nobody can prevent you from that
0:33:48 okay check i think you've covered some
0:33:51 some aspects
0:33:52 um now okay just just so we're on the
0:33:54 same page so you've mentioned that there
0:33:56 is no
0:33:56 in the absence of a khilafah we're not
0:33:59 obligated to necessarily
0:34:01 um establish on our next the question
0:34:04 not obligated it doesn't make any sense
0:34:06 to say establishing islamic state
0:34:08 what is what's obligated for the one who
0:34:10 is aware
0:34:11 is to educate the ummah as a dia
0:34:15 that you have to have the power you have
0:34:18 to get the power when they get the power
0:34:19 then they are obliged
0:34:21 automatically okay so what do you say
0:34:23 obliged
0:34:25 joe fred lives wherever he lives
0:34:28 is he how's he obligated because the the
0:34:31 hazardous thing about jahiliyyah
0:34:33 builds a construct that because this
0:34:36 fight is good fire
0:34:37 and they build an entire although it's
0:34:38 false in terms of uh three days two
0:34:40 nights whatever
0:34:41 but they've built an obligation based on
0:34:44 this
0:34:45 now this is not obligation
0:34:49 okay i understood i understood okay on
0:34:50 that because you've undermined it
0:34:52 fundamentally you've undermined
0:34:53 fundamentally what what that premise is
0:34:55 built on by
0:34:55 undermining the idea that um what the
0:34:59 death of julia means also uh the nature
0:35:02 of the burial
0:35:03 however obligation the obligation the
0:35:06 only obligation here is the obligation
0:35:08 to uh to broadcast the message of the
0:35:11 allah and his messenger
0:35:13 is that the muslim is islam
0:35:16 and when you have sufficient power so
0:35:19 that you get established according to
0:35:20 the objective condition then you rule
0:35:22 but embrace islam and become a strong
0:35:24 community so how do you build this
0:35:26 how do you build this project is this
0:35:27 from the verse over we've
0:35:34 they arrive at their conclusion however
0:35:36 strong or however weak they built it
0:35:38 from a certain premise
0:35:39 how have you arrived that there is any
0:35:41 obligation on us is
0:35:53 how is that defined is there a
0:35:54 methodology associated with that but
0:35:56 there's just
0:36:08 in the world did it work this way so
0:36:11 that that is separate from that okay
0:36:15 that's where it cannot be done
0:36:16 individually okay
0:36:19 so even even that for example because
0:36:20 they are very prescribed in terms of
0:36:23 that's because of that because
0:36:25 constructing things out of imagination
0:36:27 that's what they they're very concerned
0:36:29 because because they understood this in
0:36:30 the wrong way or
0:36:31 even in the details can you expand on
0:36:34 that so
0:36:35 for example from your from your premise
0:36:37 of general permissibility
0:36:38 the prophet son commits an action from
0:36:40 your point of view it's just an
0:36:41 indication of
0:36:42 recommendation permissibility or
0:36:45 sometimes baku to show that it's not
0:36:46 prohibited
0:36:47 yeah that's so the actions of the
0:36:49 prophet saw do they so he did these acts
0:36:51 for example that his would build the
0:36:52 premise that the prophet saw
0:36:54 every action needed evidence the prophet
0:36:55 saws did these actions therefore they
0:36:57 are mandated
0:36:58 that's mistake that's a mystery it's
0:36:59 only a mistake no what
0:37:01 has done is that when he started now he
0:37:03 started secretly
0:37:06 because that's the way a single man will
0:37:07 start in a in an ocean of enemies around
0:37:10 him
0:37:10 there's no other way to do it and that's
0:37:12 what he was instructed by by
0:37:14 by by by to do
0:37:17 so it was that that was individual and
0:37:19 was all secretly in the sense that
0:37:21 the organization was clear to it was not
0:37:22 public to the people that there is an
0:37:24 organization
0:37:25 he was meeting with the people in that
0:37:27 they did not know that he was meeting
0:37:28 with
0:37:30 all those next to uh i think next to
0:37:32 them
0:37:33 but nobody knew about that so the
0:37:34 organization was secret but they knew
0:37:36 that muhammad is having a dao and he's
0:37:37 calling people and some people joined
0:37:39 him in this belief
0:37:42 maybe the first few days nobody knew
0:37:43 only the the family khadijah
0:37:45 isaiah and so on etc
0:37:49 where the faith believe and welcome you
0:37:50 know fun and few people are known one by
0:37:52 one
0:37:52 without without uh uh
0:37:56 doing it publicly in the sense but the
0:37:58 people who knew that
0:38:00 has changed a bit this one has seen
0:38:02 everything and things like that
0:38:07 then came the phase of public daoa and
0:38:09 so on without confrontation confronting
0:38:11 the society just
0:38:12 mentioning what the positive view how
0:38:13 without necessarily attacking their
0:38:15 idols and their ideology
0:38:16 so they say oh he's calling for tahiti
0:38:18 but he's not attacking our idols and so
0:38:20 on we can't have this we can't have this
0:38:22 then came the the confrontation of the
0:38:25 slavery
0:38:26 so that his his is the national
0:38:28 development this is nazi development
0:38:29 and taking the process as an example
0:38:31 show how it works in the universe
0:38:33 not that self-obligation if you find
0:38:35 another way maybe there's another way
0:38:36 maybe nowadays you can do it by internet
0:38:40 but again now spreading said point
0:38:42 certain point of view
0:38:45 and you can have an organization made by
0:38:47 by uh organized and connected by
0:38:49 facebook people who never met
0:38:50 face to face but it's different in way
0:38:52 and means is that is that really
0:38:53 essentially different it's not
0:38:54 necessarily different
0:38:57 the only thing which is which is
0:38:59 interesting is that
0:39:02 which there's considerable argument
0:39:04 between
0:39:05 between uh and specifically
0:39:08 this is they say this is a joke this is
0:39:10 not a that's that in that
0:39:12 husband is right because he was ordered
0:39:14 to but he really came and said go to
0:39:16 taifa and ask for nusrah but what the
0:39:19 what he did not understand probably and
0:39:21 the muslims did not answer probably
0:39:23 is that
0:39:23 Music
0:39:26 was for protection to continue carrying
0:39:29 tawa not to establish a state it leads
0:39:31 by
0:39:31 by natural development when you have a
0:39:33 majority in one place then the state
0:39:34 will emerge as habit in medina it leads
0:39:37 but it's not uh the purpose of it
0:39:40 nor the event
0:39:46 he said explicitly to the people i just
0:39:48 want you to protect me from killing
0:39:50 being killed like want to kill me so
0:39:52 that i can carry a missile allah
0:39:53 i don't ask you to force you to accept
0:39:56 your marriage
0:39:56 or even expect you to accept you can
0:39:59 accept
0:40:00 whoever accept his welcome who doesn't
0:40:01 accept his welcome provided that all we
0:40:03 agree
0:40:04 that you protect me from my enemies and
0:40:06 that we don't fight my religion so
0:40:07 tribunal
0:40:08 you protect me meaning you protect also
0:40:10 my religion you accept that that's
0:40:11 a valid point of view which people can
0:40:13 accept maybe the guys
0:40:15 will belong to a philosophy which
0:40:16 believes there is no absolute truth
0:40:18 everything goes
0:40:19 relativism okay you have your opponent
0:40:21 you have all upon you
0:40:22 that's no problem as long as they're not
0:40:24 hostile even more than that
0:40:26 they're protective
0:40:29 he never told anyone uh get to get get
0:40:32 out of power
0:40:33 and and and give the pawn to me was
0:40:35 never that
0:40:37 hit just the opposite
0:40:42 all he asked for one for example
0:40:47 he told him i have a a
0:40:51 a castle on top of a mountain nobody can
0:40:53 come up except with the lift they lift
0:40:55 even the donkeys were lifted
0:40:57 so it's unattackable that's the real
0:41:00 protection
0:41:00 say are your people with you and that
0:41:03 see i don't know so you don't have
0:41:04 nusrah
0:41:05 your people have to be with you you are
0:41:07 i don't have a castle and the people
0:41:09 with you
0:41:09 just tolerate you it's not enough i will
0:41:11 the people agree with you
0:41:13 that you give protection you have
0:41:15 popular backing
0:41:18 i'd
0:41:22 and the one most convinced underground
0:41:24 i'm saying said that's the year before
0:41:25 the answer came given
0:41:27 the year 12. and the man said yes i'm
0:41:29 done and we have the tribe hundred
0:41:30 thousand fighters
0:41:31 there's a very powerful tribe of the
0:41:33 most powerful tribes in arabia at the
0:41:35 time hamdan
0:41:37 anderson said
0:41:41 are you certain that your people support
0:41:42 you say i'm almost certain but let me go
0:41:45 and take the covenant and discuss that
0:41:46 with them and get the assurances and
0:41:48 come back next year so
0:41:49 do that come next year before he came
0:41:52 next year the assad came again
0:41:55 they took they took the prophet away
0:41:57 from him that's it
0:42:13 is to have protection and all statements
0:42:15 especially statements
0:42:18 in several places in his era and he was
0:42:21 telling the tribe
0:42:22 i don't force anybody
0:42:25 who believes in me accept me behind i'm
0:42:27 just looking for protection from being
0:42:30 killed like what quraysh is trying to do
0:42:31 now that's all
0:42:33 that's explicitly out of that and we
0:42:34 have this uh this research and they sent
0:42:36 it by the way to the hezbollah
0:42:39 he was hoping that they will translate
0:42:40 but they say we only translate a summary
0:42:43 anyway
0:42:44 we'll see what we can do i think this is
0:42:45 very significant this together will
0:42:46 sahiva will climb a fiction picture
0:42:48 completely
0:42:52 sorry could you elaborate what do you
0:42:53 mean by that in terms of this piece of
0:42:55 work exactly
0:42:56 what what do you mean so you said that
0:42:58 you've sent some material to them what
0:42:59 was that material specifically
0:43:03 establishing the state you have a
0:43:06 different point of view in terms of
0:43:07 nother as well in terms of because at
0:43:09 the moment when the dao was going on uh
0:43:12 through the jummah and you know after
0:43:14 the final stage they
0:43:16 they looked to get nusra from the army
0:43:18 um on that issue there in terms of if
0:43:20 you're in a position and you take the
0:43:22 power without the uma being prepared or
0:43:25 the the pro the problem with that is
0:43:26 that they think the nusrah is to
0:43:27 establish the state that's the mistake
0:43:29 the monster is to protect the tower
0:43:33 that's it
0:43:36 so the whole issue is mute no way to
0:43:38 understand what
0:43:39 is all about
0:43:45 and that's the reason can be even from a
0:43:47 kafir just he is willing for whatever
0:43:49 motivation
0:43:50 is to give protection that you carry
0:43:53 peacefully and nobody will disturb you
0:43:54 and they'll kill you and you carry your
0:43:56 tawa and
0:43:57 struggle with the people intellectually
0:43:58 and continue that's all that's there
0:44:01 so you could say you could say the fact
0:44:02 to all the secular state nowadays
0:44:04 was genuinely secular and democratic
0:44:21 they are already available more or less
0:44:23 in that sense
0:44:24 at a time in the world that was not the
0:44:26 case origins were oppressive and all
0:44:29 kings would enforce their hakida on the
0:44:31 people
0:44:32 the roman emperor accepted the two two
0:44:36 natures to uh uh and and
0:44:39 and uh and two wills of christ
0:44:42 and prosecute the one of monophysicists
0:44:44 they want to say if christ has only one
0:44:45 nation
0:44:46 it will and start burying them in egypt
0:44:55 or something they would have been
0:44:57 exterminated and they are finished
0:44:58 they survived only because of islam will
0:45:00 protect them and even attracted them all
0:45:02 the way to abyssinia and the branch
0:45:04 church which is in india
0:45:05 is also an immunophysicist the form that
0:45:07 otherwise would have been exterminated
0:45:12 was different
0:45:15 if someone was to take power though
0:45:19 they judged whatever criteria were in a
0:45:21 position to take power
0:45:23 and they established the state and they
0:45:26 established their own rulership
0:45:28 would that be prohibited because of not
0:45:30 having had the opportunity to to
0:45:33 if they don't have the agreement of
0:45:34 majority they are reasonable the result
0:45:36 poverty doesn't belong to them
0:45:40 like crash
0:45:45 they will force themselves and
0:45:47 practically they will collapse
0:45:49 they will end an extremely oppressive
0:45:50 regime and it will collapse
0:45:56 it will collapse on its own internal
0:45:58 contradictions and problems
0:46:00 that's not the way we should establish a
0:46:01 state which really will help the mind
0:46:03 gets forward
0:46:04 no and it has been proven to be
0:46:07 unable to to help them it has actually
0:46:10 brought more problems with
0:46:11 and damaged it more more
0:46:28 in the 80s and so on but uh when when we
0:46:31 reach power we will not bother about
0:46:33 these cows for them they are
0:46:34 cows like cows we'll just guide that
0:46:37 house
0:46:38 which kind of uh another which kind of
0:46:40 look you have
0:46:44 nobody should give buyer to anybody
0:46:46 otherwise you'll be killed and he warned
0:46:48 the people from those who want to
0:46:49 observe absorb observe your affairs take
0:46:51 your offense from you
0:46:52 i must understand the correct one i'm
0:46:54 sure
0:47:09 that he elected from your prophets and
0:47:11 made you kings
0:47:12 you are everyone is king of himself
0:47:14 everyone is master of yourself
0:47:17 he doesn't need to submit the king here
0:47:18 you have to come for consultation and
0:47:20 discussion
0:47:21 and he said the same things by sure and
0:47:23 they were doing that within the
0:47:24 leadership of the prophets
0:47:25 until they chose to go the kingdom way
0:47:28 which
0:47:28 ended in the destruction yes they have
0:47:31 the first three kings were okay
0:47:32 all good followed saul and then david
0:47:35 and the sulaiman and it's uphill
0:47:37 downhill from that day
0:47:39 but the only show is that's in the book
0:47:40 of uh
0:47:46 the first look after the after the
0:47:47 judges what's his name
0:47:50 samuel of someone the whole story how
0:47:53 they assisted to have a king and how
0:47:54 they were one that this would be
0:47:56 their catastrophe their demise their
0:47:58 prayers will not be accepted that they
0:47:59 insist
0:48:00 and their argument was that if we have a
0:48:02 king we have a structure a strong state
0:48:04 strong structure we can't fight like
0:48:05 other nations
0:48:08 ended that they their king standing and
0:48:10 to become
0:48:11 idol worshiper and to become a
0:48:13 disbelieving
0:48:14 corrupt nation because they wanted
0:48:18 allegedly fight other nations and even
0:48:19 this even that claims was not true
0:48:22 they chickened out when uh talut saul
0:48:25 asked them to
0:48:26 to go out to fight their enemy
0:48:32 so the whole concept of how what's the
0:48:34 meaning of being
0:48:35 is islamic is that islam chronic is is
0:48:38 is mutilated
0:48:39 since it's mutilated
0:48:44 the same way like israel asked for it to
0:48:46 have a king that's essentially what they
0:48:48 they wanted something like a khalifa
0:48:49 like a king or something like that
0:48:51 or kingly power that's not because
0:48:55 one is difficult to manage and it's
0:48:57 demanding and the people are lazy they
0:48:58 don't want and they end with corruption
0:49:00 and
0:49:01 disintegration of society internally
0:49:06 but this is the philosophy but actually
0:49:08 that's that's what all of it
0:49:11 from your point of view there is there
0:49:13 is it's through
0:49:15 practical authors practical expediency
0:49:18 more than anything that
0:49:18 determines the methodology as in your
0:49:20 reality yeah
0:49:22 but it is but the first part of
0:49:24 authority is there is no other way what
0:49:26 what other way will be
0:49:27 show me any other rationally conceivable
0:49:29 way
0:49:31 so this derived from for example because
0:49:34 because basically whatever yeah
0:49:35 we're looking at we're looking at we've
0:49:36 got like 40 people who are like most of
0:49:38 us
0:49:40 know just what how can someone who has
0:49:42 an idea he want to bring this isla
0:49:44 the muslim now muslims are in existence
0:49:46 there are some there was no slips
0:49:49 so he has to establish create a new um
0:49:52 so
0:49:53 what how to start you start by calling
0:49:55 one by one person by person
0:49:57 it's not it's not possible through any
0:49:58 other voice
0:50:02 and then you go to another stage and
0:50:04 then start addressing things more
0:50:06 publicly
0:50:06 in a non-confrontational way for the
0:50:08 first for the first phase
0:50:18 nothing attacking the heavy weights of
0:50:20 the society so they will get alarmed and
0:50:22 start becoming hostile
0:50:23 and then when you reach a certain number
0:50:25 than you like for example
0:50:27 after one best islam it was the sixth
0:50:28 year he thought
0:50:30 we will go out now and do the offer with
0:50:31 kabal publicly and i would say no
0:50:34 uh pakistan said no we are we our number
0:50:36 is few
0:50:37 it depends upon numbers oh as you know
0:50:39 our number is enough
0:50:41 and then after discussing the matter
0:50:42 exclusively both they went in two
0:50:45 rows one row led by hamza and one road
0:50:48 and they met off out of the kaaba and
0:50:50 crash was a state of shock but then they
0:50:52 started plotting and causing problems
0:50:53 after that
0:50:54 and so on and every row were there about
0:50:56 40 people 40 40 it is
0:50:58 the 80 was were in mecca at the time the
0:51:00 rest were in inhabition for example
0:51:04 it was a shock for christ so that was
0:51:06 discussed this is the number enough
0:51:08 to to do such a confrontation to do such
0:51:10 a march
0:51:12 so this is i i i don't see any issue
0:51:15 there that
0:51:15 the uh is doing also the same but the
0:51:19 problem is that their way education
0:51:20 whether educating the people
0:51:22 is amorphous are not well structured
0:51:23 that's something else the material
0:51:25 they're offering is not enough to
0:51:27 to to revive the minds and get people on
0:51:29 board in such a way
0:51:30 that this movement will morph into a
0:51:32 strong party
0:51:33 will lead the masses and will encourage
0:51:35 the masses to take matas in their hand
0:51:37 as it should be
0:51:40 at least that's that was the problem the
0:51:43 fine details and so on the thing has got
0:51:44 stuck in such fine details
0:51:46 to our extreme that it made the
0:51:48 methodology become
0:52:03 but the other thing is this also for
0:52:04 example so if we are to look at the
0:52:06 world today and the
0:52:08 the problems that we're imagining for
0:52:09 example says that the has will be just
0:52:11 devoted for political and ideological
0:52:13 activity
0:52:14 they don't collect zika they don't talk
0:52:16 charity and so it's
0:52:19 he was keeping trust for certain people
0:52:21 he went to
0:52:22 abu jahl and tried to force him to pay
0:52:24 someone uh a debt he was
0:52:26 not not willing to pay so he embarrassed
0:52:29 abu jahl and forced him to pay
0:52:31 that's a charitable act has nothing to
0:52:32 do with that just
0:52:34 doing a benefit to that man who is out
0:52:36 not a police he is coming from outside
0:52:38 and did not give him his word for him
0:52:40 some money i was not giving a say
0:52:42 tomorrow one day after tomorrow and so
0:52:43 on
0:52:43 and then he said they told him this
0:52:45 muhammad belongs to the people who have
0:52:46 the helpful followed
0:52:47 who made the covenant to support the
0:52:49 needy and to oppress
0:52:51 go maybe he will help you they made this
0:52:52 as a mockery thanking him
0:52:54 the world will not be able to do
0:52:55 anything rasam says yes i will come with
0:52:57 me i am from the family who stabs heaven
0:53:12 so it's just just not comprehensive what
0:53:15 the syrah was doing
0:53:16 so they concluded things to shed from
0:53:18 that from his imagination by going to
0:53:20 extremes
0:53:21 that was the problem with the
0:53:22 methodology that that they arguing about
0:53:24 on on on on false ground
0:53:26 that the heart did that we must do it
0:53:28 that's wrong but i
0:53:30 i was i would say what else can be done
0:53:34 can you defer so for example where in
0:53:35 the uk can i defer my activities for
0:53:38 for a foreign foreign action so for
0:53:40 example if hypothetically
0:53:42 um papua new guinea was was islamic land
0:53:45 and it's on the brink of khilafah can i
0:53:47 circumvent all my activities to support
0:53:49 that
0:53:50 this if can emir turn around and say
0:53:52 look don't do anything in
0:53:54 darul which is obviously on the brink of
0:53:56 khilafah as well
0:53:58 don't do anything in slow you must not
0:54:00 you have to support papua new guinea
0:54:03 can they can can amir say that as well
0:54:05 is that no no
0:54:06 no this is not but this will be
0:54:08 certainly in a situation by its own
0:54:10 merit
0:54:10 it would be clear in its own matter
0:54:11 what's going on i think this is all the
0:54:14 problem with his is that he made this
0:54:16 as if it is like like a like like a
0:54:18 mechanical process not mechanical very
0:54:20 dynamic
0:54:20 process when you say dynamics obviously
0:54:23 it requires everyone to use their own
0:54:25 grey matter and rather than just
0:54:26 complete yeah yeah that's that's it for
0:54:28 example when when the prosecution became
0:54:31 very heavy and some of sahabah
0:54:32 was suffering badly he suggested them to
0:54:34 come to hamashiach because there's just
0:54:36 man
0:54:36 and so on
0:54:40 does it mean that if they say that
0:54:43 it doesn't mean for the why the house
0:54:44 does not tell the sheriff when they are
0:54:45 prosecuted in jordan
0:54:46 now some of you will go at least part of
0:54:48 you will go and
0:54:50 live in in america there's a bit of
0:54:52 justice there and some protection
0:54:53 they haven't never did that so they are
0:54:56 not following their principle that
0:54:57 actually was
0:54:58 an obligation it's just haphazard they
0:55:01 said
0:55:03 mainly because of reliance on weak
0:55:06 narrations
0:55:07 yeah yeah and not understand the history
0:55:09 probably and just
0:55:10 uh just the main line without seeing the
0:55:12 flanking of
0:55:14 narrations developing things properly
0:55:16 relying on
0:55:17 on summarized uh
0:55:21 summarizing things in uh what our
0:55:23 previous focus did who do not have a
0:55:25 pro let me give an example for someone
0:55:27 one of the major mistakes not for
0:55:28 hezbollah for the focus and time pass
0:55:29 for example
0:55:31 since since uh
0:55:35 the uh the rajam sent the letters for
0:55:37 the dawah we know for the various kings
0:55:39 his letter her calls were clear that
0:55:43 he caught him for islam obviously and
0:55:47 and promise him if he accept islam he
0:55:49 will get his reward twice reward for him
0:55:51 being christian
0:55:52 according to the best unfortunately he
0:55:53 had and the word for being muslim
0:55:55 and they say if you don't accept then
0:55:57 don't designation
0:55:59 that don't prevent me from talking to a
0:56:02 fellaini
0:56:03 to the farmer to the resident was like
0:56:07 that's the best translation for what for
0:56:10 the
0:56:10 farmer let me talk to the people
0:56:12 directly this is outrageous for that
0:56:14 university
0:56:15 the time the king control your belief
0:56:16 and everything he's asking
0:56:19 to be suddenly democratic that's not
0:56:22 acceptable
0:56:24 if he don't accept that nobody will
0:56:25 accept
0:56:27 so
0:56:31 decided to refuse whatever motivation
0:56:33 although he said the letter say that
0:56:35 i i cannot get i cannot convince the
0:56:37 people here to follow me and i'm in
0:56:38 danger and things like that
0:56:39 under himself commented this
0:56:43 the evil man became stingy for his power
0:56:46 he doesn't want to attack
0:56:48 he knows his power will be gone if islam
0:56:49 spreads and his
0:56:51 his kingdom will be gone sooner or later
0:56:53 he will die
0:56:54 he's not looking to to eternity he's
0:56:56 looking only this dunya
0:56:58 then he moved and the arab tribes to
0:57:00 attack with their
0:57:01 attempt to attack medina and also when
0:57:03 the muslim sent people for dawa
0:57:04 they killed the the the people got going
0:57:07 to mukta and so on
0:57:08 and also the messenger of some were
0:57:10 killed based on that of our cellular
0:57:12 battle water and we were killed so it
0:57:14 was the state of war with the romans
0:57:15 and also the persian because the persian
0:57:17 and roman at the time they
0:57:19 settled and they have an agreement
0:57:20 that's it in the in the historical words
0:57:22 of the roman empire they have a
0:57:23 treaty and they have even joined joined
0:57:26 the defense
0:57:27 line along along the euphrates river
0:57:29 people do not know that
0:57:30 so the war was is not an ingenuity of a
0:57:32 worker or desire that he fights in two
0:57:34 fronts it is one front
0:57:35 the roman and the other alliance if you
0:57:37 fight one you will fight the other
0:57:39 there's no escape you have to write both
0:57:40 so if i think more and the and then
0:57:43 there was the the usual here either
0:57:45 accept islam or
0:57:46 jesus and so on because only the state
0:57:47 of war is declared and they have
0:57:48 accepted wars
0:57:50 it has to be now ended that's the way to
0:57:52 end the war
0:57:53 but the question how they were
0:57:54 interrupted it's not initiated by
0:57:56 muslims it's created by them by their
0:57:58 aggression
0:57:58 and staying in front of dawah evidence
0:58:00 for that is that the one place
0:58:02 kingdom which did not stay in front of
0:58:04 dawah it was completely peaceful
0:58:06 and remain in a state of peaceful
0:58:08 cooperation and equal existence
0:58:09 is abyssinian nobody can benefit
0:58:13 neither in terms of the prophet nor in
0:58:14 time not even
0:58:16 um
0:58:20 no nobody even bothered looking at this
0:58:21 issue which refused all this theory like
0:58:23 with the
0:58:24 theory of shattering that there must be
0:58:26 always an attacks against the kuffar and
0:58:28 asking
0:58:28 engineering coming down by so that it's
0:58:31 not true
0:58:32 it was never the case it was never like
0:58:34 that
0:58:35 evidence of abyssinian publishing is a
0:58:37 very important weighty country
0:58:40 with enormous capabilities and enormous
0:58:42 wealth and not not
0:58:43 even one arrow was exchanged between
0:58:45 muslims and
0:58:46 abyssinians not the nubian sometimes
0:58:50 they call the nubian abyssinian because
0:58:51 they're very similar they are
0:58:53 half semantic have have african uh
0:58:56 nilotic
0:58:57 have negro have symmetric so they look
0:58:59 like abyssinian
0:59:01 and uh and not like uh like a genuine uh
0:59:05 black african so that's so sometimes
0:59:08 they call them
0:59:09 number southern egypt they come not the
0:59:10 number of mountains far in the south of
0:59:12 sudan that says they are these are not
0:59:13 what is the genuine
0:59:15 black africa these these they have
0:59:17 conflicted muslims but not have seen in
0:59:19 kingdom
0:59:20 for centuries so what was happened there
0:59:22 how to interpret that
0:59:25 how to understand that neither shall we
0:59:27 notice that no
0:59:28 abu hanifa noticed only a bit of it a
0:59:31 part of it this is no obligation it can
0:59:32 be peaceful
0:59:33 there are help forever as long as
0:59:35 there's no words we don't cover up you
0:59:36 can't have exchange and everything
0:59:39 he apprehended that better than uh malik
0:59:42 did not answer
0:59:43 i don't know why they didn't fight
0:59:44 against abyssinian imagine
0:59:46 malik and his all all knowledge of
0:59:48 hadith and so on unable to understand
0:59:50 whether people do not analyze things
0:59:51 properly
0:59:52 unfortunately
0:59:56 they thought what has happened with the
0:59:57 roman and persian is that muslim
0:59:58 initiated that no muslim did not
1:00:00 initiate that
1:00:01 we did not study seva and hadith
1:00:03 comprehensively
1:00:05 but we have that everything now we have
1:00:07 no excuse not to study
1:00:09 i'm giving that just an example that
1:00:11 even such such mistakes and
1:00:13 and they they linger and the part of the
1:00:16 stuck in the
1:00:16 book and so on and stay until now
1:00:20 another example example what what to do
1:00:22 with the people of the book living in
1:00:23 the muslim domain et cetera and so on
1:00:25 about churches
1:00:25 rebuilding sessions all of this is
1:00:27 nonsense this is clearly in the najib
1:00:29 treaty
1:00:30 that they have complete protection for
1:00:31 the churches the
1:00:33 the good and the bad what does that mean
1:00:34 are good about the suicide
1:00:36 and will will construction order and
1:00:38 they were the bad one the but one will
1:00:39 not be demolished they can't rebuild it
1:00:40 again
1:00:41 what i mean if you're protection for for
1:00:43 an ill church
1:00:44 a church which might be maybe need to be
1:00:46 refurbished and you need to build they
1:00:48 carry build
1:00:49 what is this nonsense and then you have
1:00:52 this then they invented the letter
1:00:53 called this
1:00:53 schroeder maria which is full of filth
1:00:56 completely fabricated
1:00:58 and still you find for example someone
1:00:59 like mukheim say this sort of maria has
1:01:01 been accepted by al-fukah
1:01:02 yes we don't have an island but all
1:01:04 focus accepted and we should accept it
1:01:08 so far islam has been mutilated to that
1:01:10 level
1:01:11 so we should praise chair that he was
1:01:13 able really to get to the seerah and get
1:01:15 a little bit some of the jewels out
1:01:17 and but he went to another extreme then
1:01:19 like for example
1:01:21 that no other activity should be done no
1:01:23 charity attested the charity is only the
1:01:25 work of the head of said that's not
1:01:26 the chat is that is the obligation of
1:01:28 the single muslim we have to bring it
1:01:30 but it will not be
1:01:31 performed properly and become really a
1:01:33 proper social institution
1:01:35 which would have a considerable
1:01:36 contribution to to wealth distribution
1:01:38 except if there's a community and the
1:01:40 state managing it but
1:01:42 the obligation is there for every single
1:01:44 muslim you know he has to have do his
1:01:46 calculation and bring it out and go
1:01:47 through the trouble
1:01:48 and if a group of muslims establish like
1:01:50 an organization for collecting
1:01:51 and distributing the zakat as perfect
1:01:54 without the state
1:01:55 has to be done should be done because
1:01:58 they're
1:01:58 collecting this will be
1:02:05 a single person foreign do it and the
1:02:06 community should do it even in a
1:02:08 community level
1:02:08 not to necessarily a state level just
1:02:10 for this specific job the house will
1:02:12 tell you no no this is
1:02:13 undermining the work it's not true if
1:02:16 the khalifa is one of his fundamental
1:02:18 obligations that's one of the main
1:02:19 structure
1:02:20 main duties of the islamic state is
1:02:21 collecting the taxes under and and and
1:02:23 the
1:02:24 zakat and distributing it properly and
1:02:26 that's what what initiated the so-called
1:02:28 wars most of those are called mustadin
1:02:30 they are called
1:02:32 most of them were zakat their denial not
1:02:35 multi-dimensions they didn't believe in
1:02:36 islam or something like that that was
1:02:37 and that was enough to regard
1:02:39 them because they protected that by this
1:02:40 by the sword you cannot
1:02:43 refuse to commit your obligation by the
1:02:45 sword unless you
1:02:46 you become a warrior and that's the
1:02:49 reason i will book a photo against him
1:02:53 shall we um there are a few questions um
1:03:01 yes it's correct if it's really
1:03:02 melanogly what's the question what is
1:03:04 the rajib
1:03:05 is it really our egypt first of all so
1:03:07 they constructed
1:03:08 is not a watch like for example
1:03:11 establishing a state what even
1:03:12 establishes is established by its own
1:03:26 now we tell the people if you are
1:03:27 established now you are
1:03:29 in in most muslim countries they are
1:03:31 majority
1:03:32 if you are really a true muslim i know
1:03:34 your obligation you should take power on
1:03:36 yourself you should work
1:03:37 so the the the political movement and
1:03:39 this cannot be done in a single person
1:03:42 it is done by parties and the parties
1:03:44 are in the organs of the umma to do that
1:03:52 sheikh we've had some questions uh
1:03:54 formulating in the background
1:03:56 i would suggest if we open up the floor
1:03:58 for uh open questions
1:04:00 also uh anything that spills over from
1:04:03 this
1:04:03 uh into next week and maybe even start
1:04:05 with open questions because obviously
1:04:07 what you've said here it does does
1:04:08 contradict a lot of what
1:04:10 many of us have been brought up with
1:04:11 yeah yeah it's clear it's clear yeah if
1:04:14 i could ask for example
1:04:15 um abdul hamid you mentioned
1:04:19 there is some point about the issue of
1:04:21 uh contention of the
1:04:23 three days two nights in terms of being
1:04:24 fabricated entirely
1:04:26 uh if you're available would you like to
1:04:28 discuss that
1:04:34 if he's there i don't think so okay
1:04:36 maybe that can be postponed to next week
1:04:38 i
1:04:47 the first part is complete nonsense
1:04:49 that's not the reason for delaying the
1:04:50 bureau
1:04:52 nor the conspiracy of work and
1:04:54 sharepoint
1:04:55 all of this is nonsense and ali was busy
1:04:57 with it while or basically lifting the
1:04:58 quran while the others were
1:05:00 were falling around the state that's all
1:05:02 nonsensical things coming from party
1:05:04 partisan point of view and misnomes
1:05:06 that's
1:05:08 yes but this is according to every
1:05:10 condition he as a khalifa has the
1:05:11 obligation to make sure that the islamic
1:05:13 state continues and the khilafah is
1:05:15 transferred smoothly
1:05:16 and at that time with these conditions
1:05:18 three days were regarded more than
1:05:19 enough anything any delay
1:05:21 is not justified and he gave an order as
1:05:23 an imam which was
1:05:24 executed and his order according to
1:05:28 at the time and actual condition did not
1:05:31 allow for for example to call the muslim
1:05:32 for assurance voting
1:05:34 and these procedures were not developed
1:05:36 yet omar did have voting for example
1:05:38 when the issue in in almost every issue
1:05:41 he called the people will bother and
1:05:42 consult with them
1:05:43 but in one of the issues the people of
1:05:45 badr did not agree and then the people
1:05:47 of
1:05:53 especially the one from quraysh because
1:05:54 these are people who were running a
1:05:56 state
1:05:56 and they are more understanding the
1:05:58 necessity of this issue of the
1:06:00 conquered countries the land what should
1:06:02 we do that
1:06:03 almost said the land should be available
1:06:05 for the oman for the next generation for
1:06:07 the armies
1:06:08 that should be like and only the kharaga
1:06:10 should be collected
1:06:11 and as well insisted no you divide the
1:06:13 land between us
1:06:14 this would have created an enormous
1:06:16 feudal structure and a very odd
1:06:18 anti-islamic structure
1:06:20 and that found that effective and he
1:06:22 argued the quran the sunnah
1:06:24 but zubair was insisting and the
1:06:26 discussion went on and omar consulted
1:06:27 and so so there was no stream
1:06:29 they don't have a household presented in
1:06:31 the house of of
1:06:32 the senate or something like that in a
1:06:33 streamlined procedure so he went on
1:06:35 ad hoc as things developed time these
1:06:38 things were not developed yet
1:06:39 in that situation man is dying he has
1:06:41 the responsibility that the state
1:06:43 persists and the khilafah is protected
1:06:45 and the state which is a state of war
1:06:46 continue without a danger
1:06:48 the three the three days were more than
1:06:50 enough
1:06:51 actually excessively enough he could in
1:06:54 that situation
1:06:55 i would i would have said in the place
1:06:56 of allah but he did not want
1:06:59 undermine his foreign that the khilafah
1:07:00 should be on surah and that no another
1:07:02 filter no another shot in the dark
1:07:04 like in the case of sakhita otherwise he
1:07:06 was clear when he was discussed
1:07:08 as asking someone what do you think
1:07:11 they said they may elect this where they
1:07:13 say what is wrong with them
1:07:15 why did not elect the bold man
1:07:19 if they elect him he will take them on
1:07:21 the right path but ahmad did not want
1:07:23 ali knows that he said ahmad did not
1:07:25 want because he did not want to violate
1:07:33 himself so that's three days i would say
1:07:35 it's more than enough in place of omar
1:07:37 that's immersive situation i would say
1:07:38 i believe that arya is the right one
1:07:41 given by anna
1:07:43 but the matter is for you ask the people
1:07:45 then
1:07:46 the whole the the there was no need for
1:07:48 them but
1:07:49 did not bring it over his heart is
1:07:51 because he said
1:07:52 if i if i appoint someone or suggest
1:07:54 someone in as a person
1:07:57 then abu bakr did that he suggested me
1:07:59 as a person because
1:08:02 death is near his dream in the very last
1:08:04 last month of his life he was consulting
1:08:06 with everyone
1:08:07 and ultimately the the the two wrote
1:08:10 that the two horses in the race
1:08:12 and then majority was for umar because
1:08:15 he's older and he has
1:08:16 certain characteristics they regarded as
1:08:18 for that moment
1:08:20 and then he he he concluded that the
1:08:23 election is a uh
1:08:25 came in favor of roman because he was
1:08:26 just like an election committee
1:08:27 consisting of one man
1:08:28 and the people trusted me with that the
1:08:30 rasam did not even do that
1:08:32 say if i appoint someone he says appoint
1:08:34 act or
1:08:35 directed attention to a single person
1:08:38 then abu bakr did that
1:08:39 and if i don't do that the prophet did
1:08:42 that the prophet did not point to
1:08:43 anybody else
1:08:45 kept it open he hinted but he never
1:08:49 did something so specific so clean like
1:08:50 a worker did he did not be an election
1:08:52 in his life
1:08:53 like that is it really an election
1:08:56 it's not he's not saying i appointed our
1:08:59 no he consulted the people and
1:09:01 after counting the world and seeing
1:09:02 what's going on and the various
1:09:04 direction and the various and and the
1:09:07 various uh
1:09:10 uh and the various groups of the muslim
1:09:12 or the england or they do decline what
1:09:13 are the benefits for the
1:09:14 that he decided that that the election
1:09:17 has came in favor of
1:09:18 more than
1:09:25 so in that situation could have followed
1:09:28 abu bakr way
1:09:29 but he decided i will follow the
1:09:31 prophet's way i will not even go an
1:09:33 election in my life
1:09:34 it will be after one day that's it but
1:09:37 he speaks for the three days
1:09:38 so i would say everyone should get out
1:09:41 of the three days myth let's admit
1:09:43 the main argument is the area the bureau
1:09:44 of the prophet and this is the
1:09:46 myth has nothing to do with that
1:09:47 whatsoever the other one
1:09:49 is not the red history and the
1:09:51 development probably
1:09:54 even once a walker made a head trauma he
1:09:56 did not make a tumor
1:09:58 he did the direction consulted with the
1:10:00 people under concluded that the majority
1:10:02 is
1:10:03 preferring our overall in that case
1:10:07 and then he wrote a a document for that
1:10:10 that's what that's the summary of
1:10:12 narrations because also generation
1:10:13 the cross narrations fabrications lies
1:10:16 and so on plenty of that you have to
1:10:18 read all of them and put them together
1:10:20 that's the secretary
1:10:21 did not even do that although he hinted
1:10:24 he hinted from there he hinted
1:10:28 here and there