Discussion on Zakat (2021-04-16) #

0:00:01 Music
0:00:19 okay
0:00:20 okay just everyone inshallah we'll be
0:00:21 starting the stuff here very shortly
0:00:23 uh i have a question from my brother
0:00:25 who's uh a follower of sheikh alias and
0:00:28 sheikh yas has a slightly different take
0:00:30 on when it comes to zakat compared to
0:00:31 yourself um uh
0:00:35 starts on zakai's as you receive it the
0:00:38 zakat
0:00:39 is due so if you got a sum
0:00:42 you risk you pay the amount and
0:00:45 then from then on in perpetuity you
0:00:47 don't need to pay any more zakat on that
0:00:48 amount so say i received 50 grand
0:00:51 i paid the car on it that's it i don't
0:00:53 ever have to pay the card it's like
0:00:55 he likens it to a tax that's this
0:00:57 brother's understanding anyway
0:00:58 i don't know i haven't heard from
0:01:00 checklist myself um
0:01:02 your understanding as far as i i've
0:01:04 understood was that
0:01:05 it's that's that's this understanding
0:01:07 obviously we know by
0:01:11 zakat taraw although they were doing the
0:01:13 the main
0:01:14 the the main wealth of the house or the
0:01:16 time cameras et cetera
0:01:17 but they would do it so let's separate
0:01:19 from the the
0:01:21 the produce or the the things which can
0:01:23 be harvested
0:01:25 yeah that's that's uh plant plants and
0:01:27 so on
0:01:28 the zakah is according to quran the
0:01:29 third is clear
0:01:32 the day you harvest give its new the day
0:01:35 of harvest
0:01:36 meaning upon harvest does not mean
0:01:38 exactly the same day but upon harvesting
0:01:41 yeah
0:01:41 because the harvest could could extend
0:01:43 several days does not mean that you have
0:01:45 uh you harvest over seven days that will
0:01:47 be fair give me the first
0:01:48 first day the the this far the second
0:01:50 day and so on but the total harvest
0:01:52 so it has to be understood a little bit
0:01:54 more flexible so when it's
0:01:56 when it's harvested that's for
0:01:58 agriculture products
0:01:59 some could make us on things which man
0:02:01 uh which one
0:02:02 uh we should which you may harvest or
0:02:05 taken as an
0:02:06 income recurring income weekly or
0:02:08 monthly so but this is a very
0:02:09 very conditional contentious area the
0:02:11 shia i have the point of view that the
0:02:13 fifth of your income
0:02:14 from like from rental and things like
0:02:16 that also the liable of the cargo ships
0:02:18 go to imam
0:02:20 and they argue with the
0:02:35 in the battlefield whatever you gain
0:02:37 from an
0:02:38 operation which can bring something if
0:02:40 it is repeated
0:02:42 because if you if you do a battle you
0:02:43 have a haribo
0:02:46 let's say if you do a rent that's their
0:02:48 fias fiasco
0:02:49 view which someone may agree or disagree
0:02:52 maybe
0:02:52 we leave that for the future to
0:02:55 study that law and enact it yeah so
0:02:58 that's it but
0:02:59 that's definitely the case for the
0:03:01 beauty of the war
0:03:02 good the
0:03:17 now let us go to the issue of kamehameha
0:03:20 et cetera and other
0:03:21 properties and also by by
0:03:25 uh action
0:03:27 Music
0:03:30 which is working in commerce and so on
0:03:33 and
0:03:33 uh the question would be what
0:03:37 how how is that the car calculated what
0:03:39 is this
0:03:40 the fact that also descending yearly in
0:03:42 a year in a year cycle
0:03:43 to collect as a car on a daily basis
0:03:45 meaning there's a certain tricks today
0:03:47 to be fixed by imam it doesn't need to
0:03:49 be
0:03:50 yearly meaning essentially the the lunar
0:03:52 year is not the solar yes that's the new
0:03:54 year but there's a difference of eleven
0:03:55 day
0:03:56 maybe in the future it could be a
0:03:58 starting way that we forgive this
0:04:00 difference for eleven days
0:04:01 and and uh make this they can go like
0:04:04 like
0:04:05 more with the solar months which are
0:04:07 related to summer and winter
0:04:08 maybe maybe more better for the economy
0:04:11 that's that's i think is the secondary
0:04:12 point like this
0:04:13 let us stick to the lunar month and the
0:04:16 lunar year
0:04:17 uh the solar year uh which is uh
0:04:20 12 months uh
0:04:24 which is uh odd because actually 12
0:04:26 months is not a
0:04:41 and the year is also lunar it is 12
0:04:42 months
0:04:47 united
0:04:55 it's established states is the lunar
0:04:56 system so the luna
0:04:58 is a lunar solar system the jews have
0:05:00 been abrogated although it was valid
0:05:02 over the centuries and it is used even
0:05:05 possibly for ashura but there's another
0:05:07 issue
0:05:08 and we have uh
0:05:11 we have other like pure solar years
0:05:13 that's also is not considerable so let
0:05:15 us stick to
0:05:16 say that imam or if there's no imam like
0:05:19 nowadays
0:05:20 you fix for yourself like say i'm going
0:05:22 to bring my zakat on the 20th of ramadan
0:05:24 for example you choose a day and you
0:05:26 stick to it
0:05:27 now the question which is scholars in
0:05:29 time we're struggling with is that
0:05:31 what to do with this good increase like
0:05:32 for example during the year if you have
0:05:34 a
0:05:35 head of camels for example it may
0:05:38 increase there might be
0:05:39 offspring etcetera clearly from the
0:05:41 instructions
0:05:45 is that from five camels one sheep for
0:05:48 this one sheep so they go there and
0:05:50 count
0:05:51 the comments they don't ask how which
0:05:54 one was born
0:05:55 between the beginning without the into
0:05:57 the last year today they don't have the
0:05:59 count existing now
0:06:00 at the zakat game so they they check
0:06:03 what is there
0:06:05 so the issue with some focus was
0:06:06 struggling how to deal with the growth
0:06:08 and the increase of the number of she
0:06:09 because
0:06:10 they said that the cat is only once in a
0:06:11 house one in a year a year
0:06:13 they mistook that that is the money must
0:06:15 be the the money who's liable zakat is
0:06:17 that one which persists
0:06:18 from the beginning from the last day
0:06:21 after the casualty had taken he said
0:06:22 that the qatar last year were taken on
0:06:24 20th
0:06:25 so from the 21st of ramadan beginning
0:06:27 with zakat here
0:06:28 until the 20th of the next ramadan
0:06:30 that's the cut here so they were
0:06:31 struggling what to do with the increase
0:06:33 which haven't had decreased
0:06:34 this is all no need for it really if the
0:06:37 mother was understood correctly
0:06:39 is that what you have in account at the
0:06:41 zakat they
0:06:42 give the zakat accordingly
0:06:46 really about what has come and what has
0:06:48 gone during the year what is there
0:06:50 so for example maybe you're getting the
0:06:52 uh during the years you're getting
0:06:54 tons of money never ending actually
0:06:58 yes you'll get 150 000 which according
0:07:00 to the theory should
0:07:14 he
0:07:22 a huge amount but it was never reported
0:07:25 that they were liable
0:07:26 why because they receive everything they
0:07:28 give it they spend the talking with in
0:07:29 sharing
0:07:32 so that's that's refused i think by
0:07:34 necessity i'll
0:07:35 check the girl's point of view it's not
0:07:37 founded there is no record
0:07:40 for if the person ever was liable
0:07:43 because he there was nothing remaining
0:07:45 the moment something when it's out
0:07:46 immediately
0:07:47 something is immediately out so the
0:07:50 moment there's a cut moment comes
0:07:52 there's nothing there to you so the
0:07:54 theory that is on the reception
0:07:56 i think it's wrong manifesting all the
0:07:59 history without islam and the sahaba
0:08:00 shows clearly this is if you collect all
0:08:02 the information it's a bit silly
0:08:04 it's not in one habit or nourishes the
0:08:06 problem i think she'll yes
0:08:09 you have to have a narration it does not
0:08:11 take all the
0:08:12 other evidences from sierra and sunnah
0:08:14 and don't take them and
0:08:15 you see the general picture is clear the
0:08:18 process
0:08:19 and most of the sahaba who are really
0:08:20 spending whatever they receive
0:08:22 immediately is wrote like that
0:08:39 it's not level of the foreign although
0:08:40 he received some comments on the enemy
0:08:42 that he gave them as gifts
0:08:44 he bought the couple of of uh jeremiah
0:08:47 just to to give to give him to give him
0:08:50 some money
0:08:51 indirectly and then he reached medina
0:08:53 and it was due that
0:08:55 that that jabber would bring the money
0:08:57 and and
0:08:58 and would give him the comment or that
0:09:01 he'd take the camera for java
0:09:02 and give him the money he gave the money
0:09:04 and then took the camera and said take
0:09:05 the camera as a gift from me
0:09:07 so he wanted to give him money but
0:09:08 covered as a as i said
0:09:10 so he never had my many comments to
0:09:12 please like i think about the shout out
0:09:14 there's
0:09:14 a couple or five comments he had he
0:09:16 never had five games
0:09:19 so the the claim on one reception i
0:09:22 would say
0:09:24 control next water the sense of the car
0:09:27 contracts all
0:09:28 uh relevant mutually corroborating
0:09:31 toronto information that the
0:09:33 the mosaic that the car collection was
0:09:36 going on a yearly basis
0:09:38 to every people now maybe the
0:09:41 the year would differ from people to
0:09:42 people to make a job easier because the
0:09:44 scout police will be working all year so
0:09:46 he goes with these people
0:09:47 it doesn't need to be a ramadan like we
0:09:52 but because we don't have an imam or
0:09:53 someone giving instruction at that time
0:09:55 it seemed to me
0:09:56 come to you how many companies are today
0:09:59 then this tribe or this area
0:10:01 he takes the day this is called
0:10:06 then he goes the next tribe it will be
0:10:07 third in the chamber the next tribe may
0:10:09 be fifth of their circle
0:10:11 and every people will remember exactly
0:10:13 roughly what is the day of the zakah
0:10:14 and they are in the next day and also
0:10:16 they're supported by hadith
0:10:18 said that there's a car on on a joint
0:10:21 uh money or common money if you are a
0:10:23 charitable in a company if you have a
0:10:25 company
0:10:26 there are some prohibited of splitting
0:10:29 the company before the zakat time
0:10:31 to escape the car or notice or joining
0:10:34 money to make a company
0:10:36 to run away from this account because
0:10:38 sometimes you can't join money and then
0:10:41 there's a car will be reduced for
0:10:42 example give you example you may have
0:10:45 um like five
0:10:48 someone have uh six camels uh and uh
0:10:51 five five cameras are five cameras which
0:10:53 means that will work correctly yeah
0:10:54 so each one is like one sheep one sheep
0:10:56 if they put it together
0:10:58 it may become then i think the next step
0:11:00 of the car
0:11:01 is like on more than three times so this
0:11:04 way will be you as a company they arrive
0:11:06 with only one
0:11:06 one sheep if i'm correct in calculation
0:11:09 i have to
0:11:10 divest example and assume that the exam
0:11:11 is correct so in that case it's in their
0:11:13 interest
0:11:14 to it to reduce ezekiel is to join
0:11:16 together establish a company
0:11:18 that's haram that's kabira running away
0:11:20 from the heart
0:11:21 as prohibited meaning there's a due in
0:11:24 the due date
0:11:25 not a reception
0:11:29 that's that's number one or hurry up and
0:11:31 the two
0:11:32 partners they may split the splitting
0:11:34 may be more beneficial for them for
0:11:36 zakah because
0:11:36 together they like for example
0:11:41 two guys having a company this company
0:11:42 is having uh seven camels
0:11:44 and they are or eight cameras and they
0:11:46 are 50 50.
0:11:47 and before they come to this aspect in
0:11:50 the company now
0:11:51 this one takes four companies this one
0:11:52 takes four coming osaka
0:11:54 while as a company they were liable of
0:11:56 one sheep
0:11:58 definitely that so splitting is the most
0:12:00 likely way to escape
0:12:02 but it could be you could consult cases
0:12:04 where joining will make you
0:12:06 less liable or this amount of zika
0:12:09 most of that it will not in most cases
0:12:11 but splitting can very well help
0:12:13 that you go below the example
0:12:16 or does not reach the other stage of
0:12:17 this up
0:12:19 so this is indication that this is you
0:12:21 can join and split
0:12:23 before a certain date to escape the car
0:12:26 and there's a major sense that
0:12:27 obviously running away from zakah has
0:12:29 prohibited that
0:12:31 so i think all evidence is taken
0:12:33 together say one reception is a mistake
0:12:36 for reception is only for harvest that's
0:12:39 when you harvest actually and you weigh
0:12:41 it and get ready packaged
0:12:44 ready for this patch and
0:12:47 uh similar things like what you want to
0:12:50 take
0:12:59 you have a rental property and you gain
0:13:01 a grant then once you receive the rent
0:13:03 that's like the harvest
0:13:04 you have harvested you pay them the
0:13:06 homes to the imam according to their
0:13:08 theory which someone could adopt
0:13:11 that comes to the state obviously only
0:13:13 to the legislative state
0:13:15 Music
0:13:16 that's the reason they be only to the
0:13:17 messiah now as a representative of the
0:13:19 hidden imam or something like that
0:13:21 they don't pay for the state because
0:13:22 they don't regard this data
0:13:24 and the legitimacy that's according to
0:13:27 the theory but
0:13:28 the basic point is that in that case is
0:13:33 like harvest that's one exception
0:13:35 because it comes like a harvest like
0:13:36 when something
0:13:37 harvested monthly weekly uh once a year
0:13:40 twice a year harvest gun
0:13:41 most harvests are twice a year we've got
0:13:43 a few houses only once a year many
0:13:44 harvests that's why
0:13:46 even some fertile countries you have to
0:13:47 have this thing so i think we have as
0:13:49 you have this
0:13:50 everything so let's continue the timing
0:13:52 so i think the correct theory
0:13:55 and i think it's almost copper if
0:13:56 someone take all of this comprehensively
0:13:59 is that for things like harvest
0:14:02 or like when we want to receive that's
0:14:04 our
0:14:05 glasses like that other things which
0:14:07 level of zakat like or she cannot deny
0:14:09 on camera et cetera et cetera that's
0:14:11 known by the water
0:14:13 this is upon a fixed cut day
0:14:16 as described by the imam the amount
0:14:19 which is there
0:14:20 you disregarding what has happened
0:14:22 during the year up and down
0:14:23 and this applies for example bank
0:14:25 account you have a bank account
0:14:27 you have some money there during the
0:14:28 year it goes up and down
0:14:30 up and down don't bother about that at
0:14:32 the end of the year
0:14:34 how much is it two and a half percent if
0:14:36 it's above uh
0:14:38 and the service for for individual for
0:14:40 example this bank account may not have
0:14:42 the result which is very unlikely okay
0:14:43 so but it doesn't have that stuff but
0:14:45 you have other words so the total of
0:14:46 your wealth is above yourself
0:14:48 then it is it was a cut liability and
0:14:50 then you take 200
0:14:51 of that let's say you have you have a
0:14:53 bitcoin account
0:14:54 in the day of the zakat you check what
0:14:56 is the price of bitcoin or the average
0:14:58 price of the day order closer throughout
0:14:59 the day something must be admittable
0:15:01 something
0:15:02 because there may be variation in the
0:15:04 day
0:15:05 but let's say some supplies which can be
0:15:09 allocated that day
0:15:10 the average price of the day for example
0:15:11 and exchange i'll calculating that for
0:15:13 you if you want
0:15:14 and then you say aha i had i
0:15:17 mean because you are going to give this
0:15:19 a cut in in
0:15:20 in in dollars for example then the price
0:15:23 is this how many bitcoins
0:15:24 two and a half percent free to rebuild
0:15:27 or
0:15:28 you can create exactly what the bitcoins
0:15:30 are there at that day exactly
0:15:31 and they could have a center they might
0:15:33 pay them as bitcoin if
0:15:35 if if if the receiver of the card are
0:15:38 capable of receiving that if it's a
0:15:39 state for example accepting bitcoin
0:15:41 uh legitimate state obviously or if it
0:15:43 is for example people who
0:15:45 uh uh have received charity from
0:15:48 you which is very poor etcetera etcetera
0:15:52 and they they have a ballot and so on
0:15:54 you can simply
0:15:56 perfectly fine but it is on that day
0:15:59 Music
0:16:00 clearly you don't escape in the case of
0:16:03 bitcoin others you cannot escape how
0:16:05 you're going to escape
0:16:06 change it in
0:16:12 so it's very difficult to escape the
0:16:14 only way to escape is to
0:16:15 to gift to someone and therefore this
0:16:17 most people would not be that stupid to
0:16:19 escape the cat by giving the whole money
0:16:21 to someone else
0:16:22 that does not sound very but it could
0:16:24 happen if someone does it to the
0:16:25 intention
0:16:25 to skip the card it's simple he's
0:16:27 committing
0:16:31 so you don't give to your children
0:16:32 before there's a cut time some of that
0:16:34 so that you escape the car
0:16:36 but they will be liable of zakat
0:16:37 obviously even if they are under age
0:16:39 with because it's on the money
0:16:40 not on the uh not on the uh on your own
0:16:44 age
0:16:44 it's not like salah so that is obligated
0:16:46 only when you come out of the page but
0:16:49 oh there is many evidences for that just
0:16:50 give me shall one examine
0:16:52 this that said whoever is a guardian or
0:16:55 a
0:16:55 manager of the wealth of
0:16:59 a team or an orphan should invest in it
0:17:02 wisely
0:17:03 according to uh so-called in the west
0:17:05 they called the prudent power
0:17:06 invested like the provided man who is so
0:17:09 cautious and so
0:17:11 meticulous investing as if it's your
0:17:13 money the opposite
0:17:14 but no more allah will not require you
0:17:16 more than that your best are your best
0:17:18 judgment as a product
0:17:21 why otherwise
0:17:24 the cat may eat it away because if you
0:17:26 have an old friend like of too many
0:17:27 years
0:17:28 and you inherited some amount of money
0:17:30 he will come out of age by
0:17:31 16 17 18 so he can give his money for
0:17:34 their own management
0:17:34 that's 15 years if 15 years every year
0:17:37 two and a half years at one hour to go
0:17:38 on a person
0:17:39 imagine how much were they made fair
0:17:41 though the money is gone
0:17:42 so invest it so that's the other will
0:17:44 not eat it away
0:17:50 what are some questions related to this
0:17:52 um there's a couple of questions related
0:17:53 to this so my understanding previously
0:17:55 was that it's unused wealth
0:17:56 everyone in classical figures no there's
0:17:59 no there's that's
0:18:00 not true it says unused or used this is
0:18:02 one one one reason for the zakah because
0:18:04 it's one capital
0:18:05 that you have to use the wealth
0:18:06 otherwise will be evaporated
0:18:08 with time it will avoid a long time 40
0:18:10 years but it will be gone
0:18:12 so if you do can't spot the golds having
0:18:14 and some and some in some cave or some
0:18:16 place
0:18:18 expecting that the coming to end ten
0:18:20 twenty years will be international
0:18:21 conflict and china will have problems
0:18:23 with russia and russia
0:18:24 probably with america and so on we'll
0:18:25 have 20 years maybe of war
0:18:27 and and you are afraid you are a
0:18:29 billionaire they want to keep that full
0:18:30 of austerity
0:18:31 then you lock that gold in some place
0:18:33 for 20 years
0:18:35 half of it will become better it must be
0:18:38 even is unused besides kansas it said
0:18:42 but even if you say that if you give
0:18:44 this a cut it's not fantastic
0:18:47 what means for example say for example
0:18:49 someone was unemployed and they had
0:18:51 50 quid at the beginning of the year
0:18:55 we finished that topic not beginning at
0:18:57 the day of zakah
0:18:58 okay okay so it doesn't matter whatever
0:19:00 say you have 50 at the beginning
0:19:02 as i said maybe during the year you
0:19:03 received one billion and you decided to
0:19:05 figure it away and share it
0:19:06 at the end of the year you are not
0:19:08 liable okay so it's just whatever date
0:19:10 you fix
0:19:11 at the desert day and how long do you
0:19:13 have to pay it so for example in this
0:19:15 instance for example
0:19:16 with bitcoin and removing from it is
0:19:19 immediately on your
0:19:20 limb in your obligation at the day that
0:19:22 was the price
0:19:23 you recall that and then you pay it as
0:19:25 soon as you can okay
0:19:28 if it is for example if you decide that
0:19:29 i am going two and a half percent of my
0:19:31 bitcoin as bitcoin
0:19:33 holla says bitcoin if you delay and
0:19:35 bitcoin goes in the
0:19:37 that's that's that's it that's it
0:19:38 bitcoin has gone up it's not your action
0:19:40 it's allah's actually in the market it
0:19:42 has gone down bad luck
0:19:44 or should derive the poor so you should
0:19:46 not delay so that prices may be
0:19:48 go up and down you should pay it
0:19:52 there's an issue here with exchange as
0:19:53 well isn't it so if bitcoin has its own
0:19:56 intrinsic value
0:19:57 then things will go up and down
0:19:58 according to it so are you are you are
0:20:01 you
0:20:01 what do you have
0:20:08 yeah okay let us have the price of
0:20:10 victoria
0:20:11 the price goes around during the day we
0:20:13 have to define a reasonable price for
0:20:15 that day
0:20:16 one person will definitely say okay i
0:20:18 will take 12 noon
0:20:20 universal time that's a reasonable case
0:20:22 but
0:20:23 no no i don't think you understand the
0:20:25 point i'm trying to make the point that
0:20:26 i'm trying to make is that
0:20:28 at the moment when we talk about the
0:20:29 value of bitcoin normally it's measured
0:20:31 against the us dollar isn't it
0:20:34 it's really about one immediate output
0:20:35 yeah yes okay
0:20:37 so it's basically just you have to have
0:20:38 a consistent thing so if you do two
0:20:39 dollars
0:20:42 you do it in bitcoin you give it out as
0:20:43 bitcoin
0:20:45 authority give me your wallet yeah of
0:20:48 course
0:20:49 the only thing is if you're doing it as
0:20:50 bitcoin this is interesting then because
0:20:53 does the value of bitcoin itself
0:20:55 intrinsically go up and down
0:20:57 you don't know that's the thing it means
0:21:02 there's some open questions it doesn't
0:21:03 it doesn't matter the same the same with
0:21:05 gold and silver when you give it a gold
0:21:06 does gold going up and down
0:21:08 you would say yes dividing up on mining
0:21:10 and rarity and things like that yeah
0:21:12 that's true but then you
0:21:13 just have to give the percentage isn't
0:21:14 it okay
0:21:28 i take the money fixed as double they
0:21:31 yeah
0:21:32 what i'm saying is the better the better
0:21:33 thing to do is as a percentage let's
0:21:35 just say
0:21:35 you have 100 grams of gold right and
0:21:37 then it's two and you're above the nuts
0:21:39 if you pay
0:21:40 uh two and a half grams it's the same
0:21:43 with bitcoins you have a hundred
0:21:44 bitcoins you pay two points
0:21:45 because it doesn't become practical then
0:21:48 you pay the equivalent of two and a half
0:21:50 at the moment of payment because you're
0:21:53 handing it for example
0:21:54 you say i send you two and up two half a
0:21:56 gram of gold this grams your two i have
0:21:58 tons of gold here
0:22:00 it's clumsy i cannot have a tractor and
0:22:01 they can't get it et cetera
0:22:03 i will give you the equivalent today
0:22:09 just quickly check is this is this an
0:22:11 aside on zakat or is this related to the
0:22:12 theory of the ayah
0:22:16 okay i was thinking are we giving to
0:22:17 zero okay it's question hey i just
0:22:20 needed to know
0:22:21 thank you so that's for the correct
0:22:23 point
0:22:24 is the day now what is exempt say use
0:22:27 the unused this is nonsense even a
0:22:28 question of jewelry unknown jewellery
0:22:30 these are gold also have value in every
0:22:32 position you are
0:22:33 the exception is the following said
0:22:36 there is no no no zakah on the muslim
0:22:40 muslim on his horse and his slave
0:22:43 so it's he accept one horse and one
0:22:45 slave
0:22:47 from that we can deduce now there's no
0:22:49 zakat on your one car
0:22:51 but you have 10 cars you pay on the nine
0:22:55 this is the wealth
0:22:59 only that one car exam and the one car
0:23:02 who should you would really like a horse
0:23:03 for boiling back
0:23:04 and things like that and avid is a slave
0:23:06 servant and you will have no slaves now
0:23:09 maybe you could say
0:23:10 we could also by by
0:23:13 talking at the logic and maybe assuming
0:23:15 that at the time of
0:23:16 nobody had really everyone has his own
0:23:19 house on him
0:23:20 lives by his own family also in his
0:23:22 house there's no evidence that they
0:23:24 people were were asked to evaluate their
0:23:26 houses and pay
0:23:28 or one piece of land we should intend to
0:23:30 build the house in the future while you
0:23:31 are not paying red
0:23:32 that that's maybe except so the
0:23:34 exception is very little only
0:23:36 let's go live in this recipe come and
0:23:38 show the comments you could say also the
0:23:40 house
0:23:41 definitely they basically in the tenses
0:23:42 of the household exam we are not going
0:23:44 to evaluate
0:23:45 television we are going to live evaluate
0:23:48 a french article but this is also most
0:23:50 circular laws
0:23:51 do such an exemption even in the case of
0:23:53 bankruptcy for example in britain
0:23:55 if the bankruptcy manager comes to your
0:23:57 house knock at the door
0:23:59 he comes if he finds second immediately
0:24:00 takes the secret television
0:24:02 he leaves one for you two three fridges
0:24:04 he take
0:24:05 leaves one and take two you have in the
0:24:08 house maybe several computers for every
0:24:10 kid and so on when there's one extra
0:24:11 computer sitting there
0:24:12 humming they don't know it's too much i
0:24:14 will take that to to pay the debt
0:24:18 that this will go with pennies or
0:24:19 nothing but that's what that's the way
0:24:21 it works
0:24:21 which is very easy what's the rational
0:24:23 way of evaluating the
0:24:25 like for example when morale was
0:24:27 bankrupt it was a very generous man he
0:24:28 was giving all that he getting in
0:24:30 and then the letters sued him he's not
0:24:33 playing us
0:24:34 and asked why to bring everything and
0:24:36 they wanted over to take his results and
0:24:38 leave him something to cover himself
0:24:40 you cannot make them naked
0:24:44 meaning they are basic think basically
0:24:45 neutrinos you could say also these are
0:24:47 reasonably
0:24:47 except from zakah in that sense
0:24:51 that's it the personal system is the
0:24:53 exception the exception is very minimal
0:24:56 if you see you can't you can't even
0:24:58 analyze it's logically an exception in
0:25:00 case of god the silver
0:25:01 belongs and what is not saved and islam
0:25:03 nowadays
0:25:04 how much was it it was 20 mythical i
0:25:06 think about 80 grand
0:25:08 do you remember the number
0:25:13 is that the muscle with us
0:25:17 i think he's on me
0:25:21 he may have just walked away okay uh
0:25:24 okay
0:25:25 if you see that maybe like 400 500
0:25:28 pounds a bigger club it's a very small
0:25:30 amount
0:25:32 almost nobody is capable that's for
0:25:34 available cash
0:25:37 so you could say the exception would be
0:25:38 very very much one car
0:25:40 obviously in the case there were but
0:25:42 someone could say we have to cast one
0:25:44 for
0:25:44 for the family for the wife and father
0:25:47 but this is
0:25:47 this does not come as an issue with the
0:25:49 islamic law because the car which is
0:25:51 owned by the wife
0:25:51 or given to the wife for the household
0:25:54 as part of the household supporters on
0:25:56 even barcoding here name is haircut and
0:25:59 she has her own zakat and his own
0:26:00 ability she has nothing to do with the
0:26:01 husband
0:26:02 anyway well we're talking about islamic
0:26:04 law not western where husband and wife
0:26:06 are
0:26:06 like having a mixed poverty that's not
0:26:08 the way islamical works
0:26:10 so each one is liable if the catholicism
0:26:12 there's no way they can merge and
0:26:14 understand and destroy unless they do a
0:26:16 specific combative specific way
0:26:18 then they have the injunction they
0:26:19 should not split or join to escape
0:26:22 that's all like you could do a company
0:26:25 with your neighbor or someone even
0:26:26 overseas
0:26:28 then you are not you have no right to
0:26:29 split that they have to run away from
0:26:31 zakat
0:26:31 then the company is having its own
0:26:35 his own personal entity this personality
0:26:38 is liable of zakat also
0:26:39 the sharika is liable on its wealth
0:26:42 according to
0:26:43 the third entity
0:26:47 then you calculate all things you can
0:26:50 also
0:26:51 with charity for example the one car
0:26:53 exclude maybe the
0:26:54 the residency building or the share of
0:26:56 the company things like that
0:26:57 that's obvious in the future because
0:27:00 life in our economy have become more
0:27:01 complicated there are
0:27:03 there are residency or addresses of the
0:27:05 company some of them are owned and not
0:27:07 owned all these things
0:27:08 but that can be worked out the future
0:27:10 will be able to work the money the
0:27:11 principle is clear
0:27:12 i think that will clarify everything all
0:27:14 the issue entire past were discussing
0:27:16 about
0:27:16 what to do with the growth you may start
0:27:19 they understood that when a year passed
0:27:23 they thought like they thought here
0:27:24 passed is in the same amount
0:27:28 next year at the zakat day you check
0:27:30 what's how many
0:27:31 how many sheep you have you may have
0:27:33 started a hundred
0:27:35 it might be a very blessed year with
0:27:37 rains
0:27:38 and many bears and so on and you end
0:27:40 with 130.
0:27:41 in between it was a hundred hundred five
0:27:43 hundred ten you don't bother about that
0:27:46 day it is period
0:27:49 that's it and all of them including the
0:27:51 the born ones
0:27:53 the one who's not born at that day or
0:27:55 before they are not counted
0:27:57 and the belly is not limited of course
0:28:02 except in the caterpillar which is
0:28:03 something different even for pregnant
0:28:06 women who brings the cattle
0:28:07 for the further for the for the what
0:28:10 they have in their
0:28:10 in anything that's this is something
0:28:27 so i think that's it was all the
0:28:28 question the more details and
0:28:30 how to make it fine and streamlined i
0:28:32 think that the statue
0:28:34 should do that the probable islamic
0:28:35 state should do that then also
0:28:38 for example ordered when it was in the
0:28:41 way of taboo it was the time of
0:28:44 near nearly the time of uh harif
0:28:47 they called the harvest of dates
0:28:50 and from the name that name came the
0:28:52 name the name of the
0:28:54 of the autumn autumn is also because in
0:28:56 the hadith time you start
0:28:58 essentially clicking taking the the
0:29:02 or completing the taking of the day
0:29:04 thing so they passed on up
0:29:06 on a plantation and they looked around
0:29:09 the employer
0:29:11 make your estimation how much is this
0:29:14 yeah how much it will be harvested from
0:29:16 that in in september
0:29:18 and everyone and they wrote it i
0:29:21 estimate this and this i'm told that
0:29:23 the owner of corner without telling him
0:29:26 obviously the estimation
0:29:28 record everything exactly when they came
0:29:31 back because they rely on estimation
0:29:35 when they came back they asked him all
0:29:38 estimation of except estimation of water
0:29:40 was exact but by revelation but
0:29:43 independent of that
0:29:44 and another hadith he said when you
0:29:47 when when you go in a house because
0:29:49 sometimes they go and do
0:29:50 to estimation before it is almost mature
0:29:54 but not really so they make house
0:29:55 and based on that horse he accounts the
0:29:58 man
0:30:00 the cat collector with his own
0:30:01 estimation he doesn't try to rely on the
0:30:03 bank account because you cannot stand
0:30:05 there and check everyone for
0:30:07 weighing us on that you can at least
0:30:08 estimate understand for example
0:30:10 agricultural america would say this year
0:30:12 we expect so many tons of wheat
0:30:14 because of the area and satellite
0:30:15 observation that's that's a bad
0:30:17 estimation
0:30:18 can do economical decision here
0:30:21 said if you if you go to these these
0:30:24 these
0:30:25 these or casualties the country uh farms
0:30:29 and so on
0:30:30 uh make your cars and then take a
0:30:32 quarter
0:30:33 reduce it by quarter or even by a third
0:30:36 so that leave them
0:30:37 leave that for them for eating and leave
0:30:39 for their guests because in the halftime
0:30:41 many friends and family come put their
0:30:43 tents in there
0:30:44 and enjoy immediately take from the tree
0:30:46 water even without washing
0:30:48 directly so leave something with that
0:30:50 and then account him for that what is
0:30:51 with the reduction so there is a
0:30:53 possibility of deduction out of mercy
0:30:55 out of conservation
0:30:56 and the islamic state will be able to
0:30:58 put that in informal
0:30:59 and in a proper way for various areas
0:31:04 like for example accepting uh like your
0:31:07 own house we are living in
0:31:09 there there would be a discount that
0:31:10 this cup will not be arbitrary and
0:31:12 you'll buy
0:31:12 a balance of 1 billion dollars and say i
0:31:16 am accepting that no no
0:31:18 most muslim they get exception of one
0:31:21 million maybe a very pound or a hundred
0:31:23 thousand
0:31:23 that's a plus of luxurious good enough
0:31:25 house for you size your family
0:31:27 the rest is liable come on it doesn't
0:31:29 work like that
0:31:30 say it's my house it's like my slave i
0:31:32 like my car or you
0:31:33 you have a ferrari and you want five
0:31:35 half a million exceptions come on most
0:31:37 people are like separately
0:31:38 they have twenty five twenty five thirty
0:31:41 and give
0:31:41 up to four fifty forty thousand mercedes
0:31:44 things like that but they don't come
0:31:45 with a ferrari
0:31:46 or or or rolls-royce and ask for
0:31:49 exemption things like that you have to
0:31:50 evaluate it and just deduct some of it
0:31:52 evaluate that market and deduct a
0:31:55 reasonable deduction
0:31:56 up to 50 for example or something like
0:31:58 that giving you some reasonable way for
0:32:01 people to you
0:32:02 know people will be developed not
0:32:03 everyone have a car of 8 000 some most
0:32:05 people will have about 15 20
0:32:06 25 000 things like that that's the only
0:32:09 card always you write down there's a cut
0:32:11 or you can't
0:32:11 go the installment and not things like
0:32:14 that all that can be worked out these
0:32:15 fine points
0:32:17 these are fine the same way that he
0:32:19 wrote the legislation and then there
0:32:21 will be always
0:32:22 some in this technicality some loopholes
0:32:24 and some people who are not really
0:32:26 happy to pay zakat or when obsidian was
0:32:28 there to look for all the goods would
0:32:30 happen
0:32:30 that's natural that doesn't refute that
0:32:32 the basic prison is correct
0:32:35 good but that's i think the theory that
0:32:38 is on reception is all
0:32:39 it's only for harvest or baganima or
0:32:42 similar things but animal is actually
0:32:44 something else but but
0:32:48 if you if you regard the homosexuals of
0:32:50 this type as because they're
0:32:51 meant to make a fierce i love yourself
0:32:54 also
0:32:55 possibly reasonable considerations uh it
0:32:57 will
0:32:59 look look at an example uh people from
0:33:02 yemen
0:33:03 the writers and past we would pass them
0:33:04 in medina while they're going for
0:33:06 jihadis
0:33:07 and they told medicine
0:33:10 we our most livelihood is from
0:33:13 harvesting
0:33:14 um uh honey
0:33:17 from the mountains and so on they know
0:33:19 whether the bees and so on
0:33:20 that area is progressive with the best
0:33:22 honey in the world there for the
0:33:24 sake of the and so on their tree and all
0:33:26 these things
0:33:27 and this is our livelihood take out the
0:33:30 castle didn't hear anything
0:33:33 but this is our livelihood we must have
0:33:36 he says well we must pay for it and they
0:33:38 decided we pay attention
0:33:40 because they are not they compared to
0:33:42 harvesting
0:33:44 uh well because the harvest the
0:33:46 indication of agricultural product the
0:33:48 harvest if it is
0:33:49 irrigated by the by the heaven without
0:33:51 any effort on your side
0:33:52 it is ten percent tenth if it's
0:33:55 dedicated fully with with the effort and
0:33:57 and the buckets and so on and machine
0:33:59 and bombs and so on nowadays etc it is
0:34:02 five percent
0:34:03 and in between as as proportionally
0:34:05 reasonable
0:34:06 so they say we don't do anything except
0:34:08 if you have the effort going up or down
0:34:10 similar to the
0:34:10 farmer plowing and doing the work but
0:34:14 the the bees are grazing by themselves
0:34:16 they're going through the forest
0:34:17 so we are not we are not delegating or
0:34:19 doing anything else ten percent is good
0:34:21 and they insist that they give a trauma
0:34:22 tomorrow accept it see if this is from
0:34:25 you by your own free world he could not
0:34:26 possibly analytically understand that
0:34:29 but the people was
0:34:30 in this point they were better than
0:34:31 normal this is like like how
0:34:34 we we go regularly and harvest like that
0:34:36 twice a year
0:34:37 any time we get it we pay 10 percent
0:34:40 otherwise we feel we are guilty we are
0:34:41 not giving
0:34:42 giving giving there's a cardio in our
0:34:45 habits also it's not agriculture product
0:34:47 so that i think that comparison their
0:34:49 understanding is is better than almost
0:34:51 and accept and accept it and they
0:34:53 present that region
0:34:54 and it became like a habit to establish
0:34:56 after that so i think
0:34:58 in fact the proportion of zakat on the
0:35:00 topics
0:35:03 Music
0:35:13 Music
0:35:15 in matters of cameras and so on we see
0:35:16 the main wealth of ali
0:35:18 but didn't specify other things because
0:35:19 it was not and most people were just
0:35:22 harvesting or were
0:35:23 having shiva's owners barely anyone was
0:35:25 commercial people
0:35:27 and the time omar escaly that he
0:35:29 established that for the commercial
0:35:31 people
0:35:31 on on that but they're not part of their
0:35:34 direct possession
0:35:36 all you have to do is i think this is
0:35:38 for the future statement
0:35:40 but i'm certain that they show that on
0:35:42 or reception for money and from good is
0:35:44 by the mistake
0:35:46 that you'll see 50 000 and then you pay
0:35:48 that one half percent and then the rest
0:35:49 is
0:35:50 perfectly that's not true and you could
0:35:53 also refuse some sense of the zakah one
0:35:54 of them
0:35:59 is to force you to invest to prevent
0:36:01 hoarding money should not sit either
0:36:03 should work
0:36:04 it should go and work islam prohibits
0:36:07 that work by itself
0:36:08 imaginary and collecting interest
0:36:11 becoming a debt
0:36:12 with a debt liability and secured by
0:36:14 mortgages that's prohibited
0:36:15 so it will work well to do business to
0:36:18 that good students
0:36:19 or eight one hundred percent two hundred
0:36:21 percent until it
0:36:22 evaporates in forty years the other
0:36:24 guilty one
0:36:26 this will run you is forced to work
0:36:29 reasonable force not an excessive force
0:36:31 200 is not very forceful
0:36:34 it will not force you to work with your
0:36:35 friction if you have a piece of land
0:36:36 which is what you are waiting for
0:36:38 to appreciate you may endure five years
0:36:39 but you have to market to the market
0:36:41 what's the market value now take three
0:36:44 three year quotations from expats
0:36:46 and pay the cut every year and you can
0:36:49 tolerate that if you think this area is
0:36:50 prospering in the future you can hold
0:36:52 back
0:36:52 and it may appreciate but you can't hold
0:36:55 at the infinitive
0:36:56 and keep it like that no
0:36:59 because we'll evaporate ultimately or it
0:37:02 will eat some
0:37:02 other income okay i think i think we
0:37:05 will cover the
0:37:06 general principle and also what is the
0:37:08 philosophy one of the
0:37:10 more important history of zakat and so
0:37:12 on and the inheritance that
0:37:13 the division inheritance is to speak
0:37:15 well and spread it and force it to
0:37:17 separate
0:37:18 in a gentle and reasonable force not
0:37:21 excessive
0:37:22 like confiscation there are the
0:37:23 commonest way nor it is the capitalist
0:37:26 way you can hold things that keep it for
0:37:27 all eternities
0:37:28 that's that's not that's not going to
0:37:30 work in the islamic system
0:37:32 so at least over a generation wealth
0:37:34 will
0:37:36 it doesn't stick in one place and
0:37:39 definitely the inheritance through
0:37:41 the spirit according to the inheritance
0:37:48 thank you
0:37:56 Music
0:38:16 so
0:38:18 you