Muslim Surprises Presenter With... (2017-11-02) #

0:00:00 finances play a massive part in this but
0:00:03 let's say go peace-loving or the ones
0:00:07 that follow Islam in the correct fashion
0:00:09 let's say in Saudi Arabia they they have
0:00:12 billions why would they not use that -
0:00:15 instead of giving citizenship - oh yeah
0:00:19 but still and now there's a massive
0:00:21 platform for us knowing certainty has
0:00:23 sadly Rabia citizenship yeah tell me
0:00:25 baby they'd have platforms their biggest
0:00:27 biggest channel anti-derivative arabiya
0:00:29 and it's almost you could say liberal
0:00:31 channel yes it's a liberal channel in
0:00:33 the sense they promote you could cook
0:00:35 you could say you could argue a twist
0:00:37 and liberal narrative so this is ironic
0:00:41 in a sense that the biggest channels in
0:00:43 the Muslim old are promoting the same
0:00:45 things that the Westeros and that's due
0:00:49 to the ties of money oil possibly it
0:00:52 could be but a generous Jew - I think a
0:00:55 post-colonial reality now Saudi Arabia
0:00:58 itself is used as an example wasn't
0:01:00 colonized by the British yeah
0:01:01 but the majority of countries in North
0:01:04 Africa yeah including memory foam which
0:01:07 is Egypt were cordoned : Viper Egypt
0:01:09 there by Britain or France yeah so that
0:01:13 mentality obviously the African
0:01:14 countries themselves and have the other
0:01:16 effects of that muscular in the reality
0:01:18 which is why you'll find in a lot of our
0:01:20 countries you're getting African would
0:01:24 you make it more like Caribbean yeah so
0:01:26 what you're originally African let's say
0:01:29 yeah that reality has spillover to
0:01:32 seeing things like hey no fair and
0:01:34 lovely fur lovely the white is something
0:01:37 that wipe the skin basically so it
0:01:39 ranges now the post-colonial reality
0:01:41 ranges from finding Beauty aesthetically
0:01:44 have seen more white it's actually being
0:01:47 an agreement with everything the white
0:01:48 colonial post-colonial master tells you
0:01:50 that is true and we don't know how much
0:01:52 this has encroached us this is important
0:01:54 so much that now every question you
0:01:56 asked I promise you is going to have a
0:01:58 Western colonial post-colonial slum and
0:02:02 that's orient what you're going to say
0:02:06 we could even like before when you
0:02:10 before you came in Linda but you had no
0:02:13 crane here and we've been quoted by why
0:02:15 does it have I think like you said how
0:02:17 the Western media portrayal is why thank
0:02:20 you
0:02:21 this is it they should be the way to
0:02:22 lighten that disease look hat because
0:02:28 someone asked me platform and I'll put
0:02:30 you up with regards to the Koala vigil
0:02:34 smart broom when it's my recognizes a
0:02:42 smart man that makes you smart so
0:02:43 telling someone said that there's
0:02:50 certain parts of the Quran as well as
0:02:52 the Bible updated so when I raised
0:02:55 points surrounding violence yeah waging
0:02:58 a holy war G has once again the
0:03:01 post-colonial start as slot spots there
0:03:03 what the narratives us having with that
0:03:06 Polly is important to duty before I'm
0:03:10 going to be asking questions that people
0:03:11 ask me as well I'm practicing Muslim so
0:03:16 I just want to know when looking at the
0:03:19 Quran yeah how can you and see what is
0:03:22 metaphorically may be the case and what
0:03:25 it's not like before you go ok chapter 3
0:03:28 verse 7 who told you that it tells you
0:03:29 that you that submit away mmm what
0:03:31 commands will hum no Lupita not too
0:03:34 shabby and so since that this book has
0:03:36 in it
0:03:37 verses which are basically ambiguous and
0:03:40 other verses which are foundational to
0:03:42 no I'm reading the Quran how am I
0:03:48 supposed to know each one so one good
0:03:50 question as we push into the answer to a
0:03:51 question is that
0:03:52 those verses which speak in a way which
0:03:55 can only be interpreted in a way in one
0:03:57 way are the foundational verses for
0:03:59 example chapter 112
0:04:02 verse 1 to 4 put although I say DS Allah
0:04:05 will block one and only
0:04:06 so we believe in only one but did normal
0:04:08 so that's going to come out saying
0:04:10 two girls or three a Christian might say
0:04:12 I believe in the Trinity three one or
0:04:13 three
0:04:14 we don't have that we don't have that
0:04:15 confusion so we say football all I have
0:04:18 is a foundational verse no one can come
0:04:19 back and say look hold on if you don't
0:04:21 believe in blue velour head or we have a
0:04:24 different interpretation no one in the
0:04:25 history of Islam and I said that so
0:04:26 that's the foundational but that's not a
0:04:28 metaphoric verse and cannot be subject
0:04:30 to a different interpretation but then I
0:04:33 think you're coming from a place of
0:04:34 being educated because there's many
0:04:37 people that I feel whether that be in
0:04:40 rural places of the Middle East or even
0:04:42 here where they're looking for belonging
0:04:44 and they attach themselves to certain
0:04:45 groups how would they how you eloquently
0:04:48 explained that how would they know that
0:04:50 for example someone's message me saying
0:04:51 in the Quran it says and kill them
0:04:53 wherever you find them and turn them out
0:04:55 from where they have turned to you out
0:04:57 okay that's slow so let me let me
0:04:59 quickly answer both question okay boy
0:05:01 you've what you've posited in the first
0:05:03 instance is called an argument ignorance
0:05:05 it's a fallacy in logic okay so if you
0:05:07 don't know something exists it doesn't
0:05:08 mean as pulse so if I say okay this
0:05:11 person doesn't know it therefore it must
0:05:12 be false that's called an argument from
0:05:14 ignorance if I say as was the case that
0:05:16 Neptune doesn't exist because I can't
0:05:18 see it it couldn't see Neptune at one
0:05:19 point yeah and they have to kind of find
0:05:22 that you the time Neptune after you they
0:05:24 have to track your based on planet it
0:05:26 doesn't exist therefore it doesn't exist
0:05:28 that's an island with midnight so for my
0:05:29 logical perspective it doesn't carry any
0:05:31 weight people don't understand things
0:05:33 they have to get educated that Francis
0:05:34 Bacon said knowledge is power it's not
0:05:36 my problem but there is an excuse in
0:05:39 this time moving that it would be nice
0:05:40 how it is more like someone ignorant God
0:05:42 will take care of them
0:05:43 accordance with the knowledge that they
0:05:45 know yeah not even in Christianity if
0:05:47 there's life you will be treated on on
0:05:49 the basis of what light you know you
0:05:52 don't know how ever so let's look at in
0:05:56 the most basic way possible you have
0:05:58 young people that I've seen that many of
0:06:00 their family members are being killed
0:06:03 due to Western performing some program
0:06:05 and then they need whether it's ignorant
0:06:08 individual that's parts of group and
0:06:09 says listen the Quran justifies us going
0:06:12 and killing these people that are
0:06:13 killing us or as answers
0:06:14 now you've measured is why so let me
0:06:15 then meet let me put this in the
0:06:17 simplest way possible
0:06:18 try and make it yeah certifiable next up
0:06:21 blame
0:06:21 okay so the blog has in it like you just
0:06:24 mentioned chapter nine verse five yeah
0:06:26 what you just mentioned before kill the
0:06:28 women to climb up laughs kind of you can
0:06:30 you can say that right so you just rich
0:06:31 in top of the mango spike okay that's
0:06:34 the problem because why you know mention
0:06:35 in chapter 9 verse 1 2 3 4 5 & 6 then 7
0:06:39 but their decibel reading out of context
0:06:41 yeah so chapter 9 verses 1 to 4
0:06:44 stipulates that there was some kind of
0:06:45 agreement between the Muslims and at
0:06:48 that particular time the pagan Arabs
0:06:49 they animated an agreement
0:06:51 what's up muzzle taken have a guitar
0:06:53 absorb a bullet in so at the time of
0:06:56 Muhammad Ali Kemp's know people that I
0:06:58 just really become Muslim and people
0:07:01 that stayed upon the religion of their
0:07:02 forefathers and believed in a
0:07:03 multiplicity of gods
0:07:04 ok so they believed in different statute
0:07:07 goes that they used to worship yeah so
0:07:09 there was an agreement between those two
0:07:11 camps between the Muslims and the pagan
0:07:14 Arabs now the first verse of chapter 9
0:07:16 which is possible to tell ba and the
0:07:18 Quran says that they're basically that
0:07:20 they have these pagan Arabs have not the
0:07:24 agreement has been hoping that taken
0:07:27 care of in other words that they have
0:07:30 betrayed the agreement then it continues
0:07:33 talking about what you should do it says
0:07:35 find that what you kill them when you
0:07:37 find them etc talking about in the
0:07:40 context of war is now at war has been
0:07:42 issued just like in any international
0:07:44 relationship where you have a treaty
0:07:47 that's I'm gay it was look my treaty
0:07:50 that signed international relations
0:07:52 perspective that mountains been broken
0:07:54 and now one party has the right to
0:07:56 offend it's also offend will defend
0:07:59 itself on the offending pipe yeah here
0:08:01 is in chapter 2 verse 1 mighty he says
0:08:04 well positively dealing you but even
0:08:06 when I tell him in a lie that you do not
0:08:09 see that fight those people who fight
0:08:11 you and don't go across the bounds was
0:08:13 God doesn't like those who go across the
0:08:15 bow so that still relate to you today
0:08:17 find those people who'd want you
0:08:21 basically Islamic law pacifistic
0:08:24 so we're not saying that you know the
0:08:28 idea of sorry but I'm gonna do the
0:08:30 crudest those terms are not fencing
0:08:31 nationís but the idea of slapping
0:08:34 someone that she can give them the other
0:08:35 G we don't have that idea
0:08:38 we have if someone's like to to cheat
0:08:40 you are allowed to slap them back on
0:08:42 their cheek okay II understand so if
0:08:45 someone attacks me on the road yeah yeah
0:08:47 I'm allowed to fight them so then would
0:08:49 you say basically will defense so from
0:08:52 an international relations respect yeah
0:08:54 different country is being attacked they
0:08:57 must fight back it's not about that they
0:08:59 should fight back will they have the
0:09:01 option of like they actually you have to
0:09:03 do this them to fight back after me oh
0:09:04 so you're saying that it's okay for them
0:09:07 to defend themselves to defend so what's
0:09:11 happening now what okay so terrorism is
0:09:16 basically you said that everything that
0:09:20 we think about is from a Western
0:09:24 ideology
0:09:25 however Zi and myself have spoken about
0:09:28 this in the past
0:09:29 we're on air management I'm not going to
0:09:33 justify your however I can understand
0:09:36 that
0:09:36 I see could continuous bomb into my
0:09:39 country yeah
0:09:40 if that means a couple casualties hey
0:09:42 how will you see it from the outside as
0:09:45 necessarily a bad thing in a way the
0:09:46 West is asking for it to a degree but is
0:09:49 it justified then yeah as much as a part
0:09:51 of it so it's not just look it's written
0:09:54 may their chapter 5 verse 32 it says in
0:09:58 them under the knife whoever kills one
0:10:00 person devotedness
0:10:01 for not killing another person over
0:10:03 their blood or great property and land
0:10:06 again hunted and I said you know it's as
0:10:08 if if humanity so killing one innocent
0:10:11 person or the lady who's little almost
0:10:12 there was kidding
0:10:13 like they love you right that's a very
0:10:14 famous person underline the point big is
0:10:17 this you just have to think yeah the
0:10:22 difference is this if they're combatants
0:10:24 and text you that is a combatant someone
0:10:27 who wants to fight you whereas if it's a
0:10:30 non-combatants someone who isn't
0:10:32 the Prophet told us you're not allowed
0:10:34 to kill categories of people of them are
0:10:36 they're non-combative women children
0:10:38 even most priests you don't have to cut
0:10:40 down trees very stupid question yeah
0:10:43 well it's not a play it's very stupid
0:10:45 by the way this is not something
0:10:46 controversial the only reason and I'll
0:10:48 tell you once again the only reason why
0:10:50 you asking this question is actually is
0:10:52 sad enough and funny enough I'll tell
0:10:54 you why I said nothing was funny it's
0:10:56 sad because actually the same reason
0:10:58 you're asking it is because the same
0:11:01 Western colonial person that really the
0:11:05 same the Western colonial master came to
0:11:07 your parents country yeah yeah and they
0:11:11 did that because they justified cultural
0:11:13 superiority they said we are culturally
0:11:15 we are culturally superior to your
0:11:17 parents yeah they have been traveled
0:11:20 religion and the African tribal systems
0:11:22 are inferior systems and therefore we we
0:11:27 have a culture which we need to give to
0:11:29 these individuals push revolution pour
0:11:31 culture I think the same reason now now
0:11:34 it's being moved from the corner
0:11:35 colonial landscape to a hospital or
0:11:37 landscape you still have the equatorial
0:11:39 region Wanek western USA that is
0:11:43 attempting now to go into the Middle
0:11:44 East from an unnecessary Africa as much
0:11:46 as much for colonial economic reasons so
0:11:50 they've had to invent a narrative this
0:11:52 narrative is a narrative of Samuel
0:11:54 Huntington a clash of civilizations and
0:11:57 a civilization a civilizational clash
0:11:59 between the Muslims and the Western
0:12:01 Hemisphere that narrative now which has
0:12:03 been invented yeah people are starting
0:12:06 to believe in it because they're not
0:12:07 critical thinkers they don't thinking
0:12:08 okay well actually what is special about
0:12:10 this version of Quran because actually
0:12:13 if you look at the Old Testament book of
0:12:14 numbers 31 18 it says not only did you
0:12:18 kill the enemy but you take the young
0:12:20 girls as slave girls and in the Old
0:12:22 Testament right yeah so in other words
0:12:24 prepubescence you take them you slightly
0:12:26 enslave them you rape them you can rate
0:12:28 them almost almost it also says that
0:12:30 most of the commentators have said that
0:12:33 no one I had not come across one single
0:12:35 common to our country that has actually
0:12:37 differed from that understanding that
0:12:40 literally comes
0:12:42 so why don't we talk about that verse
0:12:43 because that was actually more dramatic
0:12:45 than any person that we're on didn't
0:12:47 fight but then when when we look at the
0:12:50 Old Testament oftentimes that the death
0:12:54 of Jesus does away with a lot of the old
0:12:56 practices in the Old Testament so the
0:12:58 New Testament so Matthew so it says
0:13:01 Jesus says I'm not coming to do it
0:13:02 without comfort affirm them what is the
0:13:04 word firmly this is a discussion but the
0:13:07 thing is as follows if Jesus Christ is
0:13:09 God if Jesus Christ is God that is the
0:13:12 Nicene Creed through 2580 understanding
0:13:15 of Christianity yeah he is the author of
0:13:18 the Old Testament because the Father the
0:13:20 sign of the Holy Spirit or one therefore
0:13:22 those texts induce wanna be like
0:13:24 Deuteronomy chapter 21 verse 10 Jude
0:13:27 numbers chapter 31 verse 18 and other
0:13:30 verses which are very very much
0:13:32 you know vicious you could say very
0:13:35 vicious these are not only authored by
0:13:39 Jesus Christ but they sanctioned by him
0:13:41 himself because he is God so if the
0:13:44 argument is that the Old Testament is
0:13:46 the New Testament yeah well Jesus must
0:13:49 have read all of the Old Testament
0:13:51 because he's God yeah a lot of questions
0:13:54 are even after you move across the
0:13:55 Trinity but coming back to offending
0:13:57 your country you'll say that in terms of
0:14:01 you can defend yourself if there's a
0:14:03 combatant but my thing is how the
0:14:05 Western world is set up in invading many
0:14:09 countries how would you then defend your
0:14:12 country because you're not gonna go to
0:14:14 if you know Trump sits down to either
0:14:16 male for example if thou do you defend
0:14:21 if you're seated right if you live in
0:14:24 those countries and people come into
0:14:25 those countries trying to attack you and
0:14:28 take your sovereignty away as a
0:14:29 independent autonomous human being you
0:14:32 do the same thing as the Kenyans did
0:14:33 when the British came to invade you
0:14:35 fight back and it would have been cool
0:14:37 terrorism as we call flying through your
0:14:39 land
0:14:39 exactly okay so Susan so my thing is
0:14:42 because we know now that technology is
0:14:45 so advanced from when the Quran was
0:14:48 written then it's not as simple assault
0:14:51 as running into York
0:14:52 tree and you having a what punch others
0:14:56 whether the same time she blows it up up
0:14:59 in fact doesn't have these because I had
0:15:01 these with the Prophet Muhammad they had
0:15:03 these is a saying of the Prophet
0:15:04 Muhammad everyone that kills themselves
0:15:06 just generally speaking suicide that
0:15:08 they will continue to do that in the
0:15:09 Hellfire to themselves okay so why do
0:15:11 these suicide bombers do that whenever
0:15:14 they get any prom they must be getting
0:15:16 education how about that because
0:15:22 displace our market itself accommodation
0:15:25 but let me go make thick they get a look
0:15:28 around because of those salespeople okay
0:15:30 which act will says be modest is that
0:15:33 were are in a way which two groups of
0:15:37 people have bought into one of them are
0:15:40 these fabricators and the other one are
0:15:42 the terrorists the Islamic haters and
0:15:45 the terrorists have the same
0:15:46 understanding the Quran yeah both of
0:15:50 those have that understanding that
0:15:53 actually those verses which are talking
0:15:56 about war and clearly in the context a
0:15:58 regime of so the table chapter 9 verse 1
0:15:59 to 5 is talking about international
0:16:02 relations nations treaties etc those
0:16:06 sales people which Apple sales people
0:16:07 they've been able to manipulate the text
0:16:10 using hermeneutical domestics and x2
0:16:12 Jesus can you tell me what the truth is
0:16:14 in English stop I'm Dracula where the
0:16:16 Saudi verses there are so many verses
0:16:20 there's nothing in the Quran you know
0:16:23 I'm saying in the quran verse says you
0:16:24 can fight the enemy okay the enemy who
0:16:27 is the enemy now basically what I'm
0:16:30 saying to you is the Islamic haters and
0:16:33 the terrorists have the same
0:16:35 understanding of who the enemy is
0:16:36 okay who is actually any civilian any
0:16:39 civilian why are they the enemy the way
0:16:42 they justify it is as follows and they
0:16:43 put inoperative and people the general
0:16:47 populace yeah they actually endorse yes
0:16:51 the leaders yeah this is the way many of
0:16:54 the sales people they they actually
0:16:58 pitch it they say that they endorsed
0:16:59 their leaders
0:17:00 therefore they are responsible for what
0:17:03 their leaders from a foreign policy
0:17:04 perspective
0:17:06 say and do so if they're if they're
0:17:09 leaders black in 2003 say let's go to
0:17:11 Iraq and kill hundred thirty three
0:17:13 thousand people yeah then they are
0:17:14 responsible that's how they justify it
0:17:17 so now they're able to shift the blame
0:17:19 from the politician and the military
0:17:22 complex to the general populace and
0:17:25 therefore general populace blood becomes
0:17:27 as you know as easy to get as the for
0:17:32 example military only punishes blood so
0:17:35 all the company Edison see a few people
0:17:38 that want to cool in you can call it we
0:17:40 have literally got half an hour left oh
0:17:41 seven nine five one four nine seven
0:17:44 eight seven eight
0:17:45 you can call in speech and how many to
0:17:47 answer your questions you've got you've
0:17:49 got one guy do to start you're so strong
0:17:51 outstanding tellin state poppies going
0:17:53 in do you think you're right do you do
0:17:57 you think that there should be a modern
0:18:00 day writing of the put on because like
0:18:04 you like you say that there are certain
0:18:06 things that are taken out of context why
0:18:14 should these people that I'm me okay
0:18:20 that when I speak to them about
0:18:23 capitalism or communism left-right
0:18:27 colonialism they don't have Scooby they
0:18:30 don't all that it's not taught in the
0:18:31 schools properly unless you wanna study
0:18:33 in university okay so when you have
0:18:36 young let's say even young but when you
0:18:39 have certain people that may go into
0:18:41 prism and there's a brother William
0:18:42 prism that's going to protect them they
0:18:45 start reading the Quran they don't have
0:18:48 the ingenuity or the education behind it
0:18:51 to be able to contextualize business
0:18:52 over good then that's why I'm saying
0:18:55 should there be some sort of concordance
0:18:57 or explanation next to these verses to
0:19:00 state that this is what it actually
0:19:02 means however if you read another person
0:19:04 could look like it's contradictory but
0:19:07 as usual by interpretation well I have
0:19:09 the black sometimes the vial is got hurt
0:19:11 so there's a dog this is not a lot of
0:19:14 Muslims
0:19:18 no it's Jesus is when scholars of the
0:19:21 profile on the Bible or any religious
0:19:23 texts and yeah they interpret it in
0:19:26 accordance with language the lens that
0:19:28 the events of good equal the Hermit
0:19:30 useful approach musical yes will how
0:19:32 musical approach so they use different
0:19:35 tools to access the religious texts that
0:19:37 is that's done everywhere that's done
0:19:39 within Islam Christianity Judaism
0:19:40 understand text Zone seven sex ok kill
0:19:43 the Liberty is a lot small is called the
0:19:45 her musical approach and people that are
0:19:47 studying the Quran for the first time
0:19:49 she view cookies which option that's a
0:19:51 good point exactly so in other words
0:19:53 what a young terrorist want to be looks
0:19:56 at the exegesis yeah yeah and he and he
0:19:59 realizes that the way he's interpreted
0:20:01 the Quran is not in line with the
0:20:03 classic interpretation from day one for
0:20:06 the first person to according to my
0:20:08 knowledge to to interpret the provider
0:20:10 for a summer book ended poverty and 310
0:20:14 aah yeah and then you have then you have
0:20:17 someone like a wooded here
0:20:18 very famous that's here or very famous
0:20:20 into Jesus that was written in 774 aah
0:20:23 and others like for example a seal to
0:20:26 ruin my night one anyways all nine one
0:20:29 one which is actually funny there's like
0:20:31 nine eleven and well that's what he died
0:20:35 at the point being is that these stuff
0:20:37 the stuff is there the scholars have
0:20:39 done the work all that needs to happen
0:20:41 is that the young people that are
0:20:42 persuaded yeah by the terroristic
0:20:45 narrative which is actually in many ways
0:20:47 similar to the anti slamming narrative
0:20:49 or the same they should look at those
0:20:51 things before making a judgment and when
0:20:55 they look at it properly they will then
0:20:57 see that actually what they mothers do
0:20:59 the plan to be is different its
0:21:01 disjointed from the way the classical
0:21:03 scholars from day one have ever seen
0:21:05 them so how do you feel about these
0:21:07 canudas talking about or like this new
0:21:09 trend of you know it's cool to be Muslim
0:21:11 a lot of that I know a lot of pies it in
0:21:14 Muslim and then with menu but it comes
0:21:16 around to random their path being
0:21:17 mothers to leave a club do whatever we
0:21:20 do you think about this whole new wave
0:21:22 or you know it's come to be over soon
0:21:23 now
0:21:28 look it's lemons is forest maybe just
0:21:29 for people that don't know I mean to
0:21:31 hear me talking a lot of answers like
0:21:33 took a lot of big words I'm not trying
0:21:35 to be I'm not trying to pontificate much
0:21:37 so it's intimate but what do you do I'm
0:21:41 Deidre okay what do you teach history ah
0:21:45 okay make sense
0:21:47 all right okay so basically what I was
0:21:49 gonna say was this is that I'm saying
0:21:52 I've always wanted to gain access to the
0:21:53 dating right yeah which was all the time
0:21:55 just talking musically important people
0:21:57 are talking about going back to basics
0:22:00 aslam generally just means submissions
0:22:02 but we believe that Godfrey the
0:22:04 university maintain the universe he's
0:22:07 the sustainable things yeah and that he
0:22:10 sent messengers of wartime to respected
0:22:13 peoples and localities to respective
0:22:15 civilizations to tell them of the
0:22:17 message of God which is to worship God
0:22:20 to believe in him as a pitcher as well
0:22:21 but he said Abraham and Moses and Jesus
0:22:25 a pond of Muhammad at the end yeah and
0:22:27 he is the final prophet
0:22:28 so that's foundationally wife's lamb is
0:22:30 and two things that Islam comes room is
0:22:33 that message which is a basic premise
0:22:36 believe the brush equal one God not
0:22:38 three-in-one not the Trinity we
0:22:40 disassociate ourselves from the Trinity
0:22:42 and not an atheistic obviously narrative
0:22:44 but here we're talking about just
0:22:46 believing in one altima entity creator
0:22:48 that has fashioned users is the state of
0:22:51 you and maintaining you in this universe
0:22:53 cosmos where we are significant aspects
0:22:57 of that cosmos and what you could submit
0:22:59 to that all-knowing entity that's
0:23:01 basically this time after we believe we
0:23:03 have evidences to prove that this
0:23:05 narrative is true so do two things come
0:23:08 and hand and have the message in them
0:23:09 and the evidence base and all the
0:23:12 prophets have come to their respective
0:23:13 people's they have come with two things
0:23:16 they've come with a message of Islam
0:23:17 which is to submit to the creator and
0:23:19 they've also come with an evidence base
0:23:21 which is a range of rational evidences
0:23:25 given to human beings to prove that the
0:23:27 message is true so Islam comes hand in
0:23:30 hand and some of those evidences are
0:23:31 things like religions of the future
0:23:32 things like the fact that before are as
0:23:35 you mentioned
0:23:35 before is the only preserved ancient
0:23:38 religious texts the things like the fact
0:23:40 that you will not be able to find the
0:23:42 contradiction of behind the fact that
0:23:43 the Quran is inevitable in other words
0:23:45 it can't be imitated except for except
0:23:47 us so from that perspective we feel we
0:23:49 have a rational coherent worldview we
0:23:53 have a coherent if this is monarchy and
0:23:55 commitment ology we don't need a Western
0:23:58 post-colonial narrative to tell us
0:24:00 basically what modernity should look
0:24:02 like what more Tennessee is it's easy
0:24:04 for you to say though coming from the
0:24:06 point of black ascent and educated point
0:24:08 where there's many generations here that
0:24:11 they always nice however you want to
0:24:14 trust it up that due to schooling do too
0:24:18 maybe the watering down of how and by
0:24:20 the way I'm not against everything in
0:24:22 the West I'm just saying why don't our
0:24:23 full procedures they can come from oh
0:24:25 very well you're out okay what do you
0:24:28 like you're an African woman and your
0:24:30 forefathers yeah we're Africans in the
0:24:33 continent of Africa
0:24:34 you're full of other white men came to
0:24:37 your country and took over part of your
0:24:40 land yeah that's what happened now you
0:24:43 might think they'll those days are done
0:24:44 those days are not done those days up
0:24:47 continue and so this very day there is a
0:24:50 post-colonial reality the way you dress
0:24:53 the way you told everything about You
0:24:55 screams I have been infiltrated and core
0:24:58 tonight once again just like my
0:25:00 forefathers were the only difference is
0:25:02 that they will go for young people and
0:25:07 your forefathers were colonized by men
0:25:10 on brown boo-boos whereas you guys are
0:25:13 colonized on so it's zero but when ideas
0:25:16 yeah ideologically or colonize you can't
0:25:19 think outside of this box of modernity
0:25:22 Western discourse where is the African
0:25:25 tribalism increases believe it I need to
0:25:28 know it's time at the only religion in
0:25:30 Africa which is actually the choice of
0:25:31 the what's happening I'm going to say
0:25:33 that but where it's Lamas the only
0:25:35 religion in Africa which is the choice
0:25:37 of the word after if you father was a
0:25:40 religion with all of them I love it more
0:25:43 spiritualism yeah I agree
0:25:45 if you look at the body Empire the
0:25:48 songhai empire if you look at the and
0:25:50 the Ghana Empire all of these empires
0:25:52 were Muslim empires and what the choice
0:25:54 of the African if you want to go before
0:25:56 us about what was the choices the West
0:25:57 African non colonized person will talk
0:26:01 about slam back to what you said I think
0:26:06 as you're speaking on those things let's
0:26:09 set aside Islam for one second how do
0:26:13 you teach young people coming up how to
0:26:17 think
0:26:18 avoid all Western why I'm not saying
0:26:22 that these ideas westernized these are
0:26:24 very valued I don't ever wanted to say
0:26:27 like I say well saying is coming from
0:26:31 Western views so my thing is nothing
0:26:33 wrong with that to a degree it's
0:26:34 important if you're saying that our
0:26:36 forefathers are African yeah we should
0:26:38 be able to switch and think I'm saved
0:26:41 your father like the truth is devoid of
0:26:44 color creed what I'm saying is this is
0:26:47 that when we are told that the truth is
0:26:50 the truth because the white man sin so
0:26:52 the post-enlightenment experiences so
0:26:54 the post-colonial experiences so that's
0:26:57 where takes it back so why is that it is
0:26:58 why don't we do that love your father's
0:27:02 dead after Christian white that's what
0:27:05 we did that I live mandela mandela why
0:27:07 do you think mountain is not why do you
0:27:08 think mile is mine these people are
0:27:11 these three ends are the way they are
0:27:12 because they ask why and then they are
0:27:15 an innocent no when he realized that
0:27:17 there are several times actually yeah
0:27:18 they are white and they're not
0:27:21 with the answer then they said no that's
0:27:23 what made these people successful
0:27:25 definitely opportunity well I'm saying
0:27:27 is a lot Los Angeles throw the baby with
0:27:29 the bath more I'm all say let's take
0:27:31 away okay all of the West to accomplish
0:27:35 new because let's be frank
0:27:36 Western technological progress is bad
0:27:38 and the majority of the world what's the
0:27:41 scientific progress is that apparently
0:27:42 need yeah it's been taken it's been
0:27:44 inherited by the outer issues or by the
0:27:46 Chinese revision or by the African
0:27:48 tradition and it's been blow up on top
0:27:50 Minitab can take it that's a good thing
0:27:53 there are lots of things like
0:27:55 we didn't was the world militant
0:27:57 anti-racism come to inclusivity tolerate
0:28:00 I like that that's tough
0:28:02 I will say let's call that probably what
0:28:04 I'm saying is that the narrative them
0:28:05 written out endure the Western man has
0:28:07 has forced us to engage with that we
0:28:11 should question they still having people
0:28:12 ask