Can Gender Identity Pronouns Lead to Legal Pedophilia? (2018-12-24) ​

0:00:00 they're the same age right so if two 14
0:00:01 year olds in year nine
0:00:03 have sexual intercourse with each other
0:00:04 it's not seen as pedophilia but what if
0:00:06 now you have a year
0:00:07 12 we are 13 like an 18 year old he
0:00:10 wants to identify as a 14 year old
0:00:12 comes into school has a 14 year old
0:00:14 girlfriend 13 year old no
0:00:16 now what but he's identified the
0:00:17 teachers have accepted the
0:00:18 identification
0:00:20 so to what extent now does is there a
0:00:22 tension between
0:00:23 the law of consent and the
0:00:26 self-identification of this person
0:00:28 so are you telling me now because this
0:00:30 is the implication of this
0:00:31 it's very important you're you're saying
0:00:33 because they would say no this is an
0:00:34 exception we're not going to allow him
0:00:36 to identify with a younger age
0:00:37 but if that's the case what you're
0:00:39 saying is that the state knows best how
0:00:40 to identify you
0:00:42 in a legal way but that defies the whole
0:00:45 reason
0:00:46 so what you're saying to me is i would i
0:00:48 would argue that
0:00:49 gender is okay because it doesn't have
0:00:51 any consequences on the economy
0:00:53 on the political or social environment
0:00:55 because it doesn't harm anyone
0:00:57 in sometimes it does
0:01:00 right right no yes yes exactly we talked
0:01:02 about we talked about that yeah
0:01:04 no no 100 but then in the case of but
0:01:06 then in the case of age where you see
0:01:08 okay pedophilia this is that
0:01:09 child's rights disabled can i can i
0:01:12 identify as a disabled person if i'm not
0:01:13 disabled
0:01:14 am i entitled to disability living
0:01:15 allowance yeah exactly
0:01:17 no honestly i mean where does it end
0:01:19 because if i say i'm disabled the doctor
0:01:21 says no you're not disabled
0:01:22 but the doctor has given me a biological
0:01:24 rendering he's given me a scientific
0:01:27 conclusion but i'm a postmodernist i
0:01:29 don't believe in science to this extent
0:01:31 i believe my post-modernistic
0:01:33 identification of myself supersedes your
0:01:35 biological determinism
0:01:37 therefore i want to identify you know
0:01:39 what i'm trying to say as what
0:01:40 as disabled i'm blind give me a give me
0:01:44 a
0:01:44 multiplicity vehicle give me 300 400
0:01:46 pounds a month
0:01:47 please because i'm blind or i'm i'm
0:01:50 you know whatever it may be and so on
0:01:52 right so where does it end because
0:01:54 if the state starts saying no you can't
0:01:55 identify as disabled because you require
0:01:58 biological scientific evidence for that
0:02:01 you can't identify as 14.
0:02:03 because you require biological side then
0:02:04 there's a contradiction because you
0:02:05 can't say that
0:02:06 but then you can say you can identify
0:02:08 with a man because we disregard the
0:02:09 biology there
0:02:11 so if it's x yeah if it's x y
0:02:14 it's x y that's science right
0:02:17 if it's x y it's x y if it's x y it's
0:02:20 gonna invite us now
0:02:21 no no tell me what he already did
0:02:25 right if it's x y it's x y if it's x x
0:02:29 it's x x
0:02:30 that's that's a chromosome you can't
0:02:32 change that's biologically determined
0:02:34 but but how comes that can be changed
0:02:36 and manipulated and
0:02:37 identification of the self can be
0:02:40 superseded in that kind of instance but
0:02:41 when it comes to age and disability and
0:02:43 race in some cases some would argue
0:02:44 that's not the case that's why the left
0:02:46 wing
0:02:47 postmodernist has to really reassess
0:02:49 their on
0:02:50 ontology really well some people say
0:02:52 that they are doing it
0:02:53 with an end thing to actually try and
0:02:56 help promote
0:02:57 like you said pedosexuals they call
0:02:59 themselves pedosexuals they're trying
0:03:01 again
0:03:01 they're trying to yeah they're trying to
0:03:03 latch themselves on to the lgbt movement
0:03:06 so they can be the p
0:03:07 on the end and they've got themselves
0:03:10 an attractive person or something you're
0:03:14 trying to make it a normal thing
0:03:16 yes
0:03:21 and the problem is that the state itself
0:03:23 doesn't have any rigid biological way of
0:03:26 deter
0:03:26 of defining a child it doesn't have that
0:03:28 and different states have different
0:03:30 uh identifications it's true but the
0:03:33 point is
0:03:33 if it has set something in this case
0:03:35 it's the age of 16 yeah
0:03:37 if that's the arbitrary subjective but
0:03:39 it's a social
0:03:40 legalistic thing but they've put it 16
0:03:42 is the age of consent
0:03:44 then it has to be consistent and now if
0:03:46 you also say you have a free right to
0:03:48 identify yourself
0:03:49 then surely that could not mean that
0:03:51 there are any exceptions whatsoever
0:03:52 because that will
0:03:53 that will actually uh it defeats the
0:03:56 purpose of self-identification with
0:03:58 whatever you want
0:03:59 so if i'm a 16 year old that wants to
0:04:00 identify with 15 14 13 12.
0:04:04 yeah then i can do i should be able to
0:04:05 do that i agree
0:04:08 with that transphobe now probably no no
0:04:11 no
0:04:11 but you know i agree with
0:04:15 what you're saying where is it going to
0:04:16 end where where can it
0:04:18 it's just it would just like beat itself
0:04:21 up this
0:04:22 little oh 100 i absolutely agree with
0:04:24 that phrase because
0:04:25 it will eat itself up the reason why
0:04:27 itself up is because human beings
0:04:29 require certainty
0:04:30 that's one of the the things that human
0:04:32 being and language provides a kind of
0:04:34 communicative or it fulfills of
0:04:36 communicative functionality right
0:04:38 and if you take that communicative
0:04:40 functionality out of language then
0:04:42 language becomes
0:04:42 worthless so if you can have i mean
0:04:46 these people are literally
0:04:47 living a life of delusion a lot of them
0:04:50 are
0:04:50 deluded because what is deluding a
0:04:52 delusion what is illusion
0:04:54 if someone says i'm i'm 55 years old but
0:04:56 actually i'm
0:04:57 17. or i'm actually i'm 15.
0:05:01 isn't that delusion yeah well i can't so
0:05:03 often say i'm 50 going on 17 but that's
0:05:05 just because i feel like i'm young
0:05:16 anyways i hope that's clear i mean we
0:05:19 don't want to
0:05:20 but we agree on this one yeah
0:05:27 and doctors they're able to manipulate
0:05:30 much more within you know i don't know
0:05:32 the human anatomy so who knows where
0:05:34 we're going to be what we're going to be
0:05:36 medically what we're going to medically
0:05:37 become genetically
0:05:39 in the future so maybe a new pronoun
0:05:41 that are going to need to be developed
0:05:42 you know for people for what we're going
0:05:44 to become you know maybe people will be
0:05:46 absolutely androgynous this is where
0:05:49 they're looking to go
0:05:50 as well i think this is uh do you know
0:05:51 what is the sympnomatic of
0:05:53 this whole gender thing is an extension
0:05:55 of third wave feminism
0:05:57 okay now third wave feminism differs in
0:05:59 complexion
0:06:01 and intellectual argumentation from
0:06:03 second wave feminism
0:06:04 and so much as a lot of third wave
0:06:06 feminists argued that
0:06:08 sex is a social construction now
0:06:11 secondly feminists like
0:06:12 de bavar etc argued that gender was a
0:06:15 social construction which is much easier
0:06:17 argumentation to make
0:06:18 but to argue that sex is dif once again
0:06:21 it defeats the purpose because
0:06:23 as many of i think judas butler is one
0:06:25 of them but many of other
0:06:26 third wave feminists say that the penis
0:06:28 is a social construction right
0:06:29 the vaginas so if that's the case if you
0:06:31 believe that sex is a social
0:06:33 construction
0:06:34 then where do we stop in our
0:06:36 understanding of things that social
0:06:37 constructions
0:06:38 are you going to say that sex is a
0:06:39 cultural race is a social construction
0:06:41 ethnicity and social construction
0:06:42 nationality is a social construction
0:06:45 social construction no
0:06:46 don't tell me that you can't do that
0:06:48 this is cherry
0:06:51 but you know you know the argument of
0:06:52 social construction is problematic on
0:06:53 two levels
0:06:55 number one let us agree for the sake of
0:06:57 argument that sex is a social
0:06:58 construction
0:07:00 or let's agree that masculinity is a
0:07:02 social construction right
0:07:04 now it's a genetic fallacy to say just
0:07:05 because something is a social
0:07:07 construction it means it's false
0:07:08 there are many social constructions
0:07:10 which are true right it doesn't mean
0:07:12 that because something is socially
0:07:13 constructed that's where the origin
0:07:15 of the idea is that must mean that the
0:07:17 idea is false that's a genetic fallacy
0:07:19 right
0:07:20 because just because something is social
0:07:22 it doesn't mean number one is completely
0:07:24 disparate with intuitive
0:07:25 intuitionism something could be a social
0:07:27 construction as a result of
0:07:29 a combined intuitive experience of
0:07:31 collective peoples in a given place
0:07:33 so in other words people feel something
0:07:35 naturally and then that natural
0:07:37 collection of
0:07:38 feelings subjective experiences combines
0:07:41 into what is then referred to as social
0:07:42 construction but even so you can say
0:07:45 that some things which are intuitive
0:07:47 might be problematic so someone might
0:07:50 have
0:07:50 uh aggressive aggressive urges which
0:07:53 might lead them to murder
0:07:54 now that's not a social construction but
0:07:56 according to society something which is
0:07:58 wrong
0:07:58 it could be in the way that they kill
0:08:00 people it could be an element of social
0:08:02 construction based around culture
0:08:03 yes in some sexuality uh you know a
0:08:05 woman dresses up in laundry where you
0:08:07 might find it attractive
0:08:08 another culture a man might find that
0:08:09 well that's disgusting why not
0:08:12 right so look the idea just because
0:08:13 something is a social construction
0:08:14 doesn't mean it's wrong number one
0:08:15 number two even
0:08:16 you can't prove that what that person is
0:08:17 saying is not social construction
0:08:19 so with a third word feminist what i
0:08:21 would ask is how do you know what you're
0:08:23 saying
0:08:24 is not a social construction how can you
0:08:27 prove that what you're saying is not a
0:08:28 social concern why does the bbc not want
0:08:30 to hear
0:08:30 like for example that they want to hear
0:08:32 maybe the third way feminist their
0:08:33 social construction but not other
0:08:34 people's
0:08:35 uh perspective of what a social
0:08:38 construction like yours you know
0:08:39 i think that the question the bbc is a
0:08:41 little bit more i mean
0:08:42 i don't know i can't comment on the bbc
0:08:44 because i haven't done a data analysis
0:08:46 right but i think that the the issue is
0:08:49 that there is a lot of mainstream
0:08:52 organizations want to prove their
0:08:54 liberal
0:08:55 credentials they want to prove that
0:08:57 they're as inclusive as possible as
0:08:58 tolerant as possible and so on
0:09:00 and that they are open to new ideas and
0:09:02 openness and these things
0:09:04 but what the argument we're making today
0:09:06 is that that has to have
0:09:08 parameters all right and if those
0:09:10 parameters are not
0:09:11 clearly defined then you're going to
0:09:13 find yourself in circular arguments
0:09:15 and you're never going to get to the
0:09:16 bottom of anything especially with
0:09:18 children they need
0:09:19 their children need like they need to
0:09:21 know like boundaries and different
0:09:23 things otherwise they're just going to
0:09:24 get
0:09:24 of course they're going to be confused
0:09:26 it's just oh god
0:09:27 can i give you an example they won't get
0:09:29 confused with them what they do
0:09:30 yeah when they show a certain
0:09:32 perspective like the bbc they'll promote
0:09:34 you know
0:09:34 feminism they promote this feminism they
0:09:35 say women got the right to vote in 1918
0:09:37 yes but actually at the same time women
0:09:39 got the right to vote a large percentage
0:09:41 of men did too
0:09:42 because many men who didn't own land
0:09:43 yeah black people also couldn't black
0:09:45 people
0:09:45 don't yeah but they don't even men just
0:09:47 white men in their own societies
0:09:49 yeah i think that the workers work as
0:09:50 something a voting act or something like
0:09:52 that that was in the mid 18th century
0:09:54 19th century 1800's this was definitely
0:09:56 1918. have a look into it
0:09:58 the men i think you had different things
0:10:02 so for example 1918 women over the age
0:10:04 of 30 could vote
0:10:05 it was it was i think in 1930 something
0:10:08 that women
0:10:09 over the age of 18 could vote so there
0:10:11 was and men white men like you said
0:10:12 there were certain men that were
0:10:13 excluded from voting in the 19th century
0:10:15 but that's a whole discussion but and
0:10:17 black people in america couldn't vote
0:10:18 and there was all these these things
0:10:20 going on bbc they do
0:10:22 they do push
0:10:25 in the 50s they still had to sit but
0:10:27 let's be honest what is voting now is
0:10:29 first past the post system
0:10:30 you have two choices frankly i mean what
0:10:32 kind of a choice is that anyways
0:10:34 they want to stop you kidding yeah
0:10:36 anyway
0:10:38 now honestly you've got two choices for
0:10:40 the most part
0:10:41 the best you can do is probably get a
0:10:43 local mp to of the party you like in one
0:10:46 area but you know you're not going to
0:10:46 get them in government
0:10:48 and that's it shows you the restrictive
0:10:49 nature of so-called democracy you've got
0:10:51 two choices
0:10:52 and they're both and david cameron's
0:10:54 word fighting for middle ground so i
0:10:56 mean
0:10:56 the center uh you know british politics
0:10:59 is
0:10:59 focused on center ground they're all
0:11:01 fighting for it and you've got two
0:11:02 choices between blue and red
0:11:04 come in let's these these jargons don't
0:11:07 phase me because i know that democracy
0:11:08 and liberalism
0:11:09 in implementation when you actually look
0:11:12 at them with a you know with an eye
0:11:14 with a critical eye you start realizing
0:11:16 these flaws and these problems
0:11:17 i need to go can i yeah yes can i do it
0:11:21 what's that no no no can i can we can't
0:11:23 anyways guys i'm gonna go and walk
0:11:24 around as well but thank you okay i'm
0:11:26 getting
0:11:28 can we can we quickly do can i just
0:11:30 borrow you free
0:11:33 yeah you as well are you free and you
0:11:34 and you and you yeah i'm going to do a
0:11:36 video here you're not going to stand in
0:11:37 my head or something no
0:11:38 no no