Does the Quran Deal with Atheists/Atheism ? (2018-10-23) #

0:00:00 I will let him initiate on your regime
0:00:08 bismillah man you know him
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0:00:16 Johnse Nikita wa min allahi allah Z's in
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0:00:37 I'm assuming
0:00:42 but in our economy in what in a Finland
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0:00:56 John Allah whom unisom
0:01:01 mm-hmm
0:01:03 ah having a party huh ah terrific
0:01:10 what else refer to me till cotton law in
0:01:19 a true Harley come in hot Fabiana
0:01:24 Haditha hmm you know usually when we do
0:01:34 debates with atheists when we talk to
0:01:39 atheists we use very mechanical
0:01:42 reasoning sometimes and we we're going
0:01:44 to straight arguments you know we're
0:01:47 going to cosmological argument
0:01:49 teleological argument fine-tuning
0:01:51 argument contingency argument
0:01:53 ontological argument and we're just
0:01:57 hoping wait give them one argument after
0:02:00 the other and hope and wait to see how
0:02:02 they will respond to the arguments and
0:02:03 to be honest with you from my experience
0:02:06 sometimes it can be quite positive not
0:02:09 to say that these arguments are not good
0:02:11 arguments now these arguments are not
0:02:14 effective arguments or even that those
0:02:17 arguments are not true arguments but the
0:02:21 point is this is that what I've noticed
0:02:23 is I've been paying more attention to
0:02:25 the Quran and how the Quran whether
0:02:29 directly or indirectly addresses atheism
0:02:36 now I don't think it's fair to say that
0:02:39 the Quran specifies or addresses
0:02:43 atheists in any part of the Quran why
0:02:47 how comes when the Quran addresses
0:02:50 Christians Jews Muslims and people
0:02:53 directly how comes a loss of hannover
0:02:56 Allah does not choose atheists and talk
0:02:58 to them because they don't they claim
0:03:00 not to believe in him so it's not
0:03:03 something which jani they would pay
0:03:06 particular attention to so Allah
0:03:09 Subhanahu WA Ta'ala is far above and
0:03:12 beyond
0:03:14 lowering himself to that kind of a
0:03:18 discourse so instead of looking at where
0:03:24 in the Quran atheists are addressed
0:03:28 because I can tell you they're not
0:03:29 addressed in the second person at all in
0:03:32 the Quran I looked at in the Quran where
0:03:38 atheism maybe indirectly address and I
0:03:41 thought about these ayats that I've just
0:03:43 recited this isn't sort of the jet here
0:03:46 chapter 45 of the Quran and I just
0:03:50 wanted to spend a little bit of time
0:03:54 going through some of those verses
0:03:56 because they're quite interesting so
0:04:00 allah subhanaw taala says in Nephi
0:04:04 similar to a lot Lyautey in limit
0:04:06 meaning that for surely in the heavens
0:04:10 in the earth there are signs for those
0:04:15 who believe what are these signs
0:04:22 so Allah continues he says well he Hulka
0:04:25 come and in your own creation when I a
0:04:28 both women dead but him and whatever
0:04:32 creatures are scattered around the earth
0:04:36 area to nikomia P noon there are signs
0:04:39 for those individuals who have certainty
0:04:42 yakeen work till I feel alien aha and
0:04:47 the alteration of day and night
0:04:54 celestial a Leo in the heart is
0:04:55 important and I'll come to in a second
0:04:57 because we're going from the biological
0:04:59 to the cosmological and I want you to
0:05:02 bear that in mind okay when I enter a
0:05:05 lot - mie mie risk and what Allah has
0:05:08 sent down from the heavens from
0:05:10 provision for a heavy hill of the body
0:05:14 motya so he raised the earth after his
0:05:17 death was a three Fria and the
0:05:19 alternating winds I add two new home in
0:05:24 yah Kiran this this time the operational
0:05:26 word here is yaki loon
0:05:27 there are signs for those individuals
0:05:29 who have Aqil intelligence intellect
0:05:36 till care to law these are the signs of
0:05:39 allah net through holly cable Huck we
0:05:43 narrate them to you in truth and this is
0:05:46 a very powerful part of the vessel Allah
0:05:49 Allah is very powerful
0:05:50 ferbiere hadith so after what speech
0:05:54 after Allah bad Allah well IIT human
0:05:58 wound after what speech after Allah and
0:06:02 his signs will they believe now this
0:06:06 really struck me because its reasoning
0:06:10 to what you call epistemic reasoning now
0:06:14 what do I mean by this is the question
0:06:16 is what standard of truth are you going
0:06:21 to accept because people believe in
0:06:26 things on a daily basis we have beliefs
0:06:29 philosophers use the word belief to
0:06:34 reference our thoughts and it's
0:06:37 correspondence with reality this is
0:06:39 believe this is what Bertrand Russell
0:06:40 wrote in his book the problems with
0:06:42 philosophies everyone has some kind of
0:06:45 belief it can be true belief and it can
0:06:47 be false belief it does not necessarily
0:06:49 mean that if you have belief that you
0:06:53 must be a religious person for example
0:06:55 or someone who is who believes in
0:06:57 metaphysical realities the verses though
0:07:01 are very powerful because they reference
0:07:04 teleological realities what does this
0:07:07 mean they reference the fact that Allah
0:07:12 subhana WA Ta'ala has created things and
0:07:14 he has made them he has tailored them to
0:07:19 human use in other words not only is the
0:07:24 universe find tuned
0:07:26 fine-tuned for human existence which is
0:07:32 an argument very much used by every
0:07:35 theist that wants to argue their case is
0:07:37 one of the most powerful arguments
0:07:40 not only is that the case though but the
0:07:45 things that the universe exhibits are
0:07:48 useful to the living creatures within
0:07:53 them so there is a reciprocal
0:07:56 relationship between the biological
0:07:58 living creatures and the cosmological
0:08:02 inanimate celestial bodies Allah is
0:08:08 showing us look alternating winds look
0:08:10 at this all of these things how can you
0:08:12 explain this and Allah he says something
0:08:15 beautiful and another verse he says
0:08:18 Allah Allah the acid I could lay in
0:08:20 Holika Oh Hulk life is to Christ he is
0:08:25 the one who perfected everything in the
0:08:31 creation and this means to say look at
0:08:38 it look at the creation number one point
0:08:42 number one the fact that the creation
0:08:46 exists and is maintained how is this
0:08:51 explained how can this best be explained
0:08:56 now the complexity of the universe is
0:08:58 not just the first thing we can cite
0:09:00 because someone said well complexity
0:09:01 depends on your definition of complex we
0:09:05 will say the order exhibited in the
0:09:11 universe and this is what the officer on
0:09:15 say of this verse then is on the order
0:09:21 of the universe and the fact that there
0:09:27 is a harmonious relationship between
0:09:30 different aspects of the universe such
0:09:32 that and this is an important point the
0:09:35 universe continues to exist underline
0:09:38 this point the universe continues to
0:09:40 exist this is the question that needs to
0:09:45 be asked in other words how comes the
0:09:49 universe continues to exist
0:09:52 how can we best explain the fact that
0:09:56 the universe continues to exist because
0:10:00 we know from physics and other
0:10:04 disciplines and this is actually almost
0:10:08 concise is almost agreed-upon from all
0:10:10 sides that the chances of the universe
0:10:17 existing from chance are literally zero
0:10:21 and obviously Martin Rees has written a
0:10:23 book just six numbers many different
0:10:26 things have been written on this which
0:10:28 show literally that the forces of the
0:10:32 universe the gravitational force the
0:10:35 electromagnetic force the strong nuclear
0:10:38 force the weak nuclear force had these
0:10:40 things been adjusted even in a minor way
0:10:48 the universe would not continue to exist
0:10:52 because the fine-tuning argument is that
0:10:55 the universe allows life to exist and
0:10:59 there is a very narrow life permitting
0:11:02 range and that had any of those things
0:11:07 that I had aforementioned been any
0:11:08 different then the universe simply
0:11:11 wouldn't exist and there would be no
0:11:13 life on the universe so there are two
0:11:15 things to question why does the universe
0:11:18 continue to exist
0:11:19 despite the chances of it not existing
0:11:26 being Infanta stably small and how could
0:11:30 and why does the universe allow life to
0:11:33 exist now these are the classical
0:11:35 arguments that we use and this is more
0:11:38 like the fine-tuning argument but it is
0:11:41 connected to the Quranic discourse it is
0:11:45 connected to the Quranic discourse
0:11:47 because the question is how can you best
0:11:52 explain this now Allah it takes more
0:11:57 faith to believe that the universe came
0:12:02 from chance than it does to believe
0:12:05 that there was some intelligence behind
0:12:07 it let me tell you something I've spent
0:12:11 a lot of time reading books on this
0:12:14 topic and to be honest with you the most
0:12:18 I would say powerful or I wouldn't even
0:12:22 call it that to be honest with you
0:12:24 but the most vehement opposition to this
0:12:29 kind of argument comes from a man called
0:12:30 David Hume now he was a philosopher
0:12:33 Scottish philosopher and he said but
0:12:35 hold on this is was his argument and by
0:12:37 the way he is one of the heavyweights of
0:12:40 the Enlightenment period so we're not
0:12:41 talking about Richard Dawkins and
0:12:44 Christopher Hitchens which literally
0:12:46 would be little boys in the school of
0:12:48 David Hume little boys little boys we're
0:12:51 talking about David Hume himself so what
0:12:55 did he say how did he how did he confute
0:12:57 to this hypothesis he said look he said
0:13:01 yeah I understand what you're saying but
0:13:04 the universe could have been created
0:13:05 from chance and then he realized what he
0:13:09 was saying was a little bit far-fetched
0:13:10 and he said and even if it wasn't
0:13:13 created by chance how can you make a
0:13:16 logical leap and say that God is the one
0:13:19 who intelligently designed the universe
0:13:22 okay fine you don't need to call him God
0:13:24 call him whatever you want the entity
0:13:26 the thing you still have a problem here
0:13:29 then he said but then how can you
0:13:32 explain the evil in the world you say
0:13:36 listen we're not talking about morals
0:13:37 here we're talking about organization
0:13:40 and physics and laws of nature so really
0:13:45 and truly and to be honest with you even
0:13:46 David Hume was refuted by his
0:13:50 contemporaries on this this is a thorn
0:13:53 in the side of this is this argument
0:13:57 here it says very simple I can look at
0:13:59 the design subhanAllah very simple look
0:14:01 Fallujah Russell Harriman photo go look
0:14:04 again do you see any gaps in creation do
0:14:07 you see any this is a very simple
0:14:09 argument but as one which is well is a
0:14:12 thorn in the side of atheists and they
0:14:16 cannot deal with it
0:14:18 now this is one thing another thing
0:14:22 which is interesting
0:14:24 allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran
0:14:26 by the album starship kafir tech Varun
0:14:29 I've been learning Akuma yeah so Mayumi
0:14:37 - come here come some money later on he
0:14:43 says how can you disbelieve in Allah
0:14:45 when he when you were dead and he
0:14:48 brought you to life and well I had a
0:14:50 conversation with Ibrahim yesterday and
0:14:52 he brought this to my attention because
0:14:54 I'm trying to bring forward some
0:14:55 interesting chronic arguments and he was
0:14:58 saying look at this verse it shows and
0:15:02 this is true subhanAllah
0:15:03 it shows except another premise here you
0:15:07 were a dead lifeless and life was given
0:15:09 to you now the question is where does
0:15:11 life come from can something which is
0:15:14 lifeless endow something else with life
0:15:17 or is it necessary for something which
0:15:21 has life to give life this is the
0:15:23 question now we're not going to go into
0:15:26 a bo Genesis which is something these
0:15:29 some chemists and some biologists talk
0:15:32 about because rbo Genesis is unproven
0:15:36 it's speculative and there are so many
0:15:38 theories and this idea that chemistry
0:15:40 became biology really in a nutshell
0:15:42 chemistry somehow became bad we don't
0:15:43 know how it happened we're looking at
0:15:45 the fossil records in RNA in the DNA but
0:15:47 we don't know how it happened but just
0:15:48 it happened somehow allow you what the
0:15:55 hell is this
0:15:57 you see what kind of pseudoscience is
0:15:58 this what kind of pseudoscience is this
0:16:01 I lost power tireless in the Quran as I
0:16:04 had to whom cause somehow I see when I
0:16:08 have not let them see the creation of
0:16:10 the heavens and the earth they weren't
0:16:12 there witnessing the creation of the
0:16:13 heavens in here we had some fun this
0:16:16 morning with Ibraheem we were talking
0:16:17 about this well I this complex of when
0:16:20 you know when the man comes will I
0:16:23 assign pseudo scientific approach just
0:16:25 someone comes with a laboratory jacket
0:16:27 just because he represents science he
0:16:29 says yes we have an idea of when the you
0:16:31 know
0:16:31 started and this and this and they
0:16:33 change the idea from the bit from this
0:16:35 from the static state theory to Big Bang
0:16:37 and this and they keep change again you
0:16:39 say yeah we changed our mind on it but
0:16:40 we're still working on it as if they
0:16:42 really know exactly what's happening
0:16:44 it's a thirteen point nine billion years
0:16:46 ago as if they can see exactly what's
0:16:47 going on and four billion years ago
0:16:50 before the earth was created they can
0:16:51 see everything but putting that to the
0:16:54 side the question is how could something
0:16:58 with no life give something give life to
0:17:02 something simple
0:17:04 have we ever observed physics turning
0:17:07 into biology in this way inanimate
0:17:10 objects turning into objects animate
0:17:13 life objects we don't see this this is
0:17:16 kind of theories that seriously they are
0:17:19 desperate clutching at straws and then
0:17:23 they'll cite Darwinian evolution and say
0:17:25 look but we know now see okay for the
0:17:28 sake of argument you're you're right
0:17:30 what's Darwinian evolution which is on
0:17:32 biology got anything to do with physics
0:17:34 la Hulk was summarize you allowed a
0:17:35 quorum and Hulk in nests I lost power
0:17:40 that certainly the creation of the
0:17:43 heavens and the earth is bigger than the
0:17:45 creation of the human being so let's
0:17:48 start was the big in them we can go
0:17:49 micro let's talk macro and then we can
0:17:50 go micro Darwinian evolution doesn't
0:17:54 help you because it doesn't have
0:17:55 anything to do with physics right so
0:18:01 proving God is not what we were aiming
0:18:04 to do because we as Muslims believe that
0:18:06 you're born with a Coulomb olu olu the
0:18:08 new LaDonna facility every moment
0:18:10 everyone who is born is born in a
0:18:11 predisposition to believe in God but
0:18:15 here's what I will say is that if you do
0:18:16 one action if you do one rationality as
0:18:19 the Quran says uses the word yep in and
0:18:23 it uses the word Akal and it uses the
0:18:26 word European Apple and amen
0:18:30 these are the things that you will get
0:18:33 from looking at the creation with
0:18:34 sincerity whether you are a philosopher
0:18:37 or a physicist or a common man looking
0:18:40 at the sky and the stars should lead you
0:18:42 to Allah that's it
0:18:44 should be that it should be as simple as
0:18:46 this now we'll continue and say play
0:18:54 someone may argue and David Hume did
0:18:56 argue this he said okay and you know you
0:18:58 can see his ramblings were like even
0:18:59 though he's a massive philosopher he
0:19:01 said how do you know is one God it could
0:19:03 be more than one creator that created
0:19:05 this universe and these things pipe the
0:19:09 Koran has three interesting verses one
0:19:11 and surah al-isra
0:19:12 one in surah al-anbiya and one in surah
0:19:15 till mu'minin which explains to us why
0:19:18 it's a beautiful logic wow these are
0:19:20 beautiful logical arguments the best you
0:19:22 don't need to go anywhere else except
0:19:24 for the Quran everything is there all
0:19:25 the arguments are there why it's
0:19:28 necessarily true that it has to be one
0:19:30 God Allah Ta'ala says hello Kenema who
0:19:35 Ali hatun chaotic Walloon even libertà
0:19:39 ho lalr she Sibylla if there were many
0:19:41 gods with him as you say then they would
0:19:44 have all been competing to the arch in
0:19:47 other words some of us here would say
0:19:48 they would be trying to get closer to
0:19:50 allah and other mafia children say they
0:19:52 would be competing in strength installer
0:19:55 to mock me known it says la la banda
0:19:58 whom allah but they would have been
0:20:00 competing with each other ie the two
0:20:02 gods and in surah al-anbiya it says that
0:20:06 the heavens and earth life as a data
0:20:08 they would have been destroyed now
0:20:10 here's the point there are three things
0:20:13 which have to be unitary and cannot be
0:20:16 many one of them is creative ability or
0:20:22 control of the creation number two is
0:20:24 will a rather and number three is power
0:20:28 now let me give you an example of this
0:20:30 easily yeah if you have two individuals
0:20:33 or you have two entities that claim to
0:20:35 be God you have three choices either
0:20:38 they will fight each other they will
0:20:40 fight each other and they were both it
0:20:44 will be like a draw a stalemate in which
0:20:46 case we will say how can you be God all
0:20:48 powerful and both of you are cannot beat
0:20:51 the other one right option two
0:20:55 they will compromise with each other
0:20:57 democratically say listen you have
0:20:58 Monday I will rule on Tuesday you know
0:21:01 we'll share the Dominion and if this was
0:21:05 the case it implies weakness because why
0:21:07 do you need to compromise as an
0:21:08 all-powerful creator and the third thing
0:21:12 which is the obvious one the third thing
0:21:15 which is the obvious one is that one
0:21:16 will prevail over the other and if this
0:21:18 is the case then that one which prevails
0:21:21 over the other is the powerful one is
0:21:25 the god and the one who's been
0:21:27 subordinated is the is the subjugate in
0:21:30 this case they're subjected one so here
0:21:33 it's very simple it's necessarily true
0:21:36 because of the fact that there cannot be
0:21:40 multiple wills there cannot be multiple
0:21:43 creative capacities and they cannot be
0:21:45 more than one all-powerful entity and by
0:21:48 the way this completely bunk is the
0:21:49 Trinity completely destroys the Trinity
0:21:52 if you want an easy way to destroy the
0:21:53 Trinity of the Christians this is the
0:21:55 one of the best logical ways they say
0:21:57 that all three are God but that they all
0:22:01 you unified in the Trinity right that
0:22:04 Jesus is God that the Father is God the
0:22:06 Holy Spirit is God if that is the case
0:22:08 is jesus all-powerful yes he is is the
0:22:11 father all-powerful yes he is if they go
0:22:14 against each other who's going to win in
0:22:15 a fight you know how he put it
0:22:17 how are they going to draw no no they're
0:22:21 not going to draw who would fight who
0:22:23 would win Jesus or the Father come on
0:22:26 ask the Christian if Jesus will
0:22:30 something and the father will something
0:22:33 and they are different because they're
0:22:35 two different persons even according to
0:22:36 who's going to win if you say both of
0:22:40 them will come together and compromise
0:22:41 then they are both weak so this is a
0:22:45 very interesting argument now finally I
0:22:48 wanted to talk about something else now
0:22:49 someone will say well these are all very
0:22:51 fine logical arguments these all very
0:22:53 fine logical arguments but they will
0:22:57 argue we don't want to be religious
0:23:02 we've had enough of religion look at
0:23:04 what Legion has done to society and
0:23:06 these things we don't want to believe in
0:23:08 God
0:23:08 say okay no problem don't believe in God
0:23:10 we'll see what happens don't yeah and
0:23:13 don't you don't have to argue say no
0:23:14 problem yeah mellow wash it to him do
0:23:17 what you want
0:23:18 come on Cheryl you owe me no my share
0:23:19 for yuck for whoever wants to come
0:23:20 believe whoever wants you can just
0:23:21 believe we believe that if you have been
0:23:23 given the error message and you deny it
0:23:25 then you will go to the Hellfire and you
0:23:27 burn forever actually that's what will
0:23:29 happen to you and you know there's only
0:23:30 one way of finding out when we die we're
0:23:32 going to find out what Carlo in here
0:23:34 Allah hyah - not done yet no more - Ana
0:23:35 here why you looking at in a way that
0:23:38 they say is only our life of this world
0:23:41 we're going to live and die and only the
0:23:43 time will will destroy us oh man a
0:23:48 Humvee that like a Milan what kind of
0:23:49 knowledge they have this in whom Aleya
0:23:51 unknown they only guess and will lie
0:23:56 atheists can only be uncertain it's
0:23:59 actually necessary part of their
0:24:01 ideology they can never be certain of
0:24:03 their ideology that's why actually if
0:24:04 even if you look at what they describe
0:24:06 themselves as they describes themselves
0:24:07 for those who know negative atheists
0:24:10 they don't have any positive arguments
0:24:12 against the existence of God some of
0:24:13 them do say the problem of evil like
0:24:15 David Hume or whatever but the majority
0:24:17 of them say no actually no we just
0:24:19 thought I'm not convinced with the
0:24:20 evidences now I will say to them if
0:24:22 you're not convinced with the evidence
0:24:23 is fine no problem don't believe in God
0:24:25 we'll see what happens after we die no
0:24:26 problem no problem but I will say to the
0:24:29 Atheist this for example if that atheist
0:24:33 decides to embrace another secular
0:24:35 ideology and this is why it was useful
0:24:38 during the liberalism and feminism
0:24:39 discussion before I'm doing this one
0:24:41 because if they say I'm not a I'm not a
0:24:44 religious person but I'm a FEMINIST yes
0:24:46 I'm a feminist or I am a liberal say
0:24:49 listen you believe in liberalism so yeah
0:24:51 so you've la you've left the
0:24:54 cosmological argument which is a
0:24:56 deductive argument you've left the
0:24:58 fine-tuning argument which the chances
0:25:02 of you know leaving it it's tantamount
0:25:03 to literally saying that the probability
0:25:05 of the universe coming coming about is a
0:25:08 zero but I'll accept this you've left
0:25:10 all of those strong arguments as first
0:25:13 principle arguments and now you're going
0:25:17 to feminism and liberalism which don't
0:25:19 even have arguments like this they don't
0:25:22 there is no equivalent of the
0:25:24 cosmological argument to prove
0:25:26 liberalism there is no equivalent of the
0:25:29 teleological fine-tuning argument to
0:25:31 prove feminism therefore if were being
0:25:34 epistemologically honest you should not
0:25:36 believe in any of those secular
0:25:37 ideologies and some people actually went
0:25:41 down that line
0:25:42 they call themselves post modernists
0:25:44 Nietzsche is a very interesting example
0:25:49 he wrote books he said you know I don't
0:25:51 believe in any of this I didn't even
0:25:52 believe in science he was skeptical of
0:25:54 everything but that is an honest
0:25:56 approach to the skeptical extremism that
0:25:59 he believed that's that's how it should
0:26:00 be every atheist should be like
0:26:02 Nietzsche if they're being
0:26:03 intellectually honest they should read
0:26:06 the books of Nietzsche and be like him
0:26:08 who by the way he went mad at the end of
0:26:10 his life and he went to a doctor even
0:26:12 though he did not believe in and he was
0:26:14 skeptical of science but the point is
0:26:17 this the point is if that is your
0:26:23 standard of truth that you're going to
0:26:25 leave all these things is abductive and
0:26:26 inductive and deductive arguments which
0:26:29 really do for atheists and non assists
0:26:33 constitute yeah a solid framework for
0:26:39 believing anything from first principles
0:26:42 then you should leave everything else in
0:26:46 terms of belief if an atheist says I'm
0:26:50 an atheist but do you believe in this
0:26:51 and if they start spouting more moral
0:26:53 things and say yeah I believe this was
0:26:54 morally incorrect and you shouldn't do
0:26:56 this you shouldn't where is your moral
0:26:58 Anchorage where is your objective moral
0:27:01 Anchorage where'd you get your morals
0:27:02 from well how can you even justify
0:27:05 anything you've used such a skeptical
0:27:08 method to deny the arguments for the
0:27:11 existence of God we expect you to use
0:27:14 that same skepticism for everything else
0:27:17 in your life and if you use that same
0:27:22 skepticism for everything else in your
0:27:24 life you will simply have nothing you
0:27:27 will simply believe in nothing you
0:27:31 cannot be a feminist and believe in
0:27:35 feminism
0:27:36 if you are an atheist that rejects these
0:27:39 arguments because feminism as we've
0:27:42 discussed does not have any underlying
0:27:44 principles which which root it from
0:27:47 bottom up
0:27:48 same thing with liberalism same thing
0:27:50 with communism they all have attempts
0:27:53 bison they don't have anything solid
0:27:55 certainly not as solid as the
0:27:57 cosmological so here the point is this
0:27:59 the Quran is very clear
0:28:01 it says I'm Julio cumin ye Shaitan I'm
0:28:04 whom la lagune what they created from
0:28:05 nothing or what they themselves the
0:28:08 creators of themselves
0:28:09 I'm Holocaust am i right uh ballet opine
0:28:12 on did they are they the ones who
0:28:13 created the heavens in the earth they
0:28:15 have no certainty the whenever Allah
0:28:19 describes these individuals he always
0:28:22 describes four powers a beautiful
0:28:23 premise they can never be certain
0:28:25 because they apply an X key as extreme
0:28:28 skepticism they might as well deny
0:28:30 themselves as Nietzsche did say I don't
0:28:32 exist I don't I don't actually exist the
0:28:35 self than me I don't I don't know how do
0:28:38 I know use the same philosophical
0:28:40 inquiry no I don't know actually the
0:28:42 chances of me not being here is so yeah
0:28:44 there is a chance why don't you use the
0:28:45 same belief and the same method of
0:28:48 inquiry because if you do it you will
0:28:51 deny yourself you'll deny everything so
0:28:56 with that in Charla I will conclude I
0:28:59 will conclude with what allah subhanaw
0:29:01 taala he said because what a lost plant
0:29:05 I said is quite powerful in referencing
0:29:08 the fact that really scientific inquiry
0:29:12 although it's very important and we
0:29:14 respect it and everything
0:29:15 especially as it regards to knowing what
0:29:18 happened before in terms of and this is
0:29:20 a big thing for people's their evolution
0:29:23 evolution evolution is something of the
0:29:27 part is actually history a scientific
0:29:30 history they have to trace even this is
0:29:33 Richard Dawkins he said you know we have
0:29:34 to slap we're detectives we're bringing
0:29:35 all the things together we're trying to
0:29:36 find out what happened babe you did not
0:29:40 witness this you did not see species
0:29:44 moving into other species or become
0:29:46 another speech you have not seen this
0:29:48 yet the atheist for the most part will
0:29:51 be ardent evolutionist yes I believe and
0:29:53 even but you did not see this and the
0:29:56 theory of evolution continues to change
0:29:59 so Allah says Mashhad to whom Hulka sama
0:30:02 yt-alert I have not allowed them to
0:30:08 witness the creation of the heavens and
0:30:10 the earth well a whole Quran for Sam and
0:30:12 not the creation of themselves now this
0:30:16 is very powerful they have not seen
0:30:21 things that they believe in as almost
0:30:26 anchor anchors yet they will use
0:30:31 empirical arguments we have not seen
0:30:33 good in these things
0:30:34 to deny God so here when discussing with
0:30:39 atheists sometimes or lie I think it is
0:30:41 a psychological thing it's not it's no
0:30:43 longer a an intellectual inquiry because
0:30:46 if we look at if we do it's the claw of
0:30:48 all of the philosophies that dealt with
0:30:50 for example for yanny to the
0:30:52 teleological argument or the fine-tuning
0:30:54 argument you'll see that there's really
0:30:55 weak arguments in opposition to these
0:30:58 things and so it's not about
0:31:00 intellectualism it's not really it's not
0:31:02 it's about psychology
0:31:04 it's about of what of the favors of
0:31:07 allah subhanaw taala will you deny and
0:31:09 so with atheists I think the best
0:31:11 approach and this is after some time of
0:31:13 debating with them and talking with them
0:31:14 it has the chef said in the previous
0:31:16 lecture just smile at them okay and
0:31:20 maybe go and get some food with them and
0:31:22 talk with them be nice with them ask
0:31:24 them how their parents are and you never
0:31:26 know they might they might change and
0:31:28 become Muslim
0:31:29 it's a hard luck