Preservation of Qur’an- Ust Abdul Rahman Hassan MH podcast #3 (2020-06-14) ​
## DescriptionSome vital information discussed about the preservation of the Qur'an with Ustad Abdul Rahman Hassan.
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Summary of Preservation of Qur’an- Ust Abdul Rahman Hassan MH podcast #3 ​
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discusses the importance of learning Qur'an, and how it can be learned in a deep and lasting way. It features Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi wa Barakatu speaker Mohammed Salameh, who discusses the various aspects of Qur'an learning, from pronunciation to meaning. He also recommends reading books on Qur'an learning, as well as attending Qur'an classes and clubs.
00:00:00 Discusses the importance of learning Qur'an, and how it can be learned in a deep and lasting way. It features Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi wa Barakatu speaker Mohammed Salameh, who discusses the various aspects of Qur'an learning, from pronunciation to meaning. He also recommends reading books on Qur'an learning, as well as attending Qur'an classes and clubs. If someone wants to start learning Qur'an now, Salameh recommends starting with the pronunciation and articulation aspects, followed by the meaning.
- 00:05:00 The presenter discusses how his research into Quran has led him to study Animal Care Art more specifically. He discusses how the Quran was sent down from Allah, who is the source of its authenticity. He also discusses how doubts about the Quran have existed for a long time, and how these doubts are not new.
- 00:10:00 Discusses how the Quran is a revelation from Allah, and how Muhammad tried to change a letter here and there but ultimately failed. He also mentions that there are scholars who believe that the Quran is in poetic form, and that it was passed down from Prophet Muhammad in an oral format.
- 00:15:00 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi discusses the concept of Quran preservation and how it applies to Muslims. He notes that the authorities of Islam were of the same opinion and that the Quran is protected from time till now. He also speaks about how the Prophet was still commanded to convey the message first and how the believers should ignore the disbelievers.
- 00:20:00 The presenter discusses the different readings of the Quran and how these readings are explained through the Prophet Muhammad's interactions with the people. He argues that all of the variant readings within the Islamic tradition are not something which is additional to the text, but are explained through the Prophet's interactions with the people.
- 00:25:00 Discusses the different ways Qur'anic verses can be read, with some verses having multiple meanings that are revealed depending on the context. One example given is the omission of the word "mother" in Surah Al-Muminun, which has a different meaning depending on the situation. There is disagreement among Islamic scholars as to whether this specific detail is a matter of revealed masala or whether it is a matter of the text itself having different meanings.
- 00:30:00 Discusses the different opinions on the preservation of the Quran, noting that there is no disagreement about its transmission, but there is disagreement about its meaning. He goes on to explain that, even if one view is weaker, it is still inconsequential to the Quran's preservation because it does not affect the fact that it was revealed in a way that was intended to be easy to understand for the people. He mentions a course he is teaching on the preservation of the Quran, which he plans to include a detailed presentation of each of the forty-something views on the matter, with evidence and criticism for each. He ends by noting that, even if one takes the weakest view, it is still correct to believe that the Quran is preserved.
- 00:35:00 The presenter discusses the differences between Quranic transmission and Old Testament transmission, noting that Quranic transmission is not reliant on a chain of narration like Old Testament transmission is. He also points out that there are variants within Quranic discourse because of Sabah, an explanation for which is provided by comparative religion. He argues that it is important to approach Quranic transmission from a text criticism perspective in order to understand the variations between the Quran and other texts. Finally, the presenter argues that there is a lack of harmonizing method in Quranic transmission, which is a weakness compared to Old Testament transmission.
- 00:40:00 Discusses the importance of memorizing the Quran, and the difference between a pillar and a half. He also discusses why people commonly confuse these terms.
- 00:45:00 The caller discusses the different ways in which the Koran can be recited, and how the different recitations are motivated by multiple factors. He also mentions some of the Imams who have spoken about the preservation of the Quran.
- 00:50:00 Discusses the importance of the triangulating method for determining whether a text is authentic, and how this method applies to the Quran. Jerry notes that not all texts from older authors are authentic, and that there are operational texts that are different from the continental skeletal structure.
- 00:55:00 The narrator discusses the various Qur'anic readings, including Abdullah Nuhmin's recitation which is the most authoritative. He also notes that the Prophet gave instructions to follow the whole of the Quran, which is religiously authoritative.
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, Imam Abdul Rahman Hassan discusses the preservation of the Qur'an and how Islamic scholars have played a vital role in keeping it accurate. He also talks about the importance of studying the Qur'an and how it is the final message from Allah to mankind.
01:00:00 Discusses how the Quran is preserved and how different readings are all based on the authentic interpretation of the Prophet Muhammad.
- 01:05:00 Discusses the importance of preserving the Quran, and discussing how Muslims have distance themselves from learning the religion. The narrator tells a story of meeting a non-Muslim who was surprised to learn that the Quran was originally written in Arabic. The non-Muslim asked the narrator to read a verse from the Quran aloud. The narrator was taken aback when he realized that the non-Muslim was referring to the same verse that he was. The non-Muslim explained that this is because the Quran is filled with beautiful and powerful words that appeal to everyone. The narrator points out that many non-Muslims are able to understand and appreciate the Quran because they have been raised on a foundation of Islamic knowledge.
- 01:10:00 Discusses the preservation of the Qur'an and how scholars study it to try and find errors. Ella Healy, who is from the U.S., talks about her experience studying the Qur'an and how she believes that it is the final message from Allah to mankind. She also discusses how this message is preserved in a way that no other book has been preserved.
- 01:15:00 Discusses the variants of the Qur'an and how to ensure they are not the result of the Sahaba themselves. He also discusses the concept of coatl, or the water means the halo, and how it limits the number of people who can agree on a particular variant. He concludes by discussing the Bedouins and how they were a part of the early Muslims.
- 01:20:00 Discusses the concept of "truce" in karate, and how the Quran supports it. He also discusses the research he has done on the topic.
- 01:25:00 Discusses the preservation of the Qur'an, with Imam Abdul Rahman Hassan discussing the importance of Islamic scholars preserving the Qur'an. Imam Hassan talks about how Islamic scholars from the past were able to correct other Orientalists, and how we need to be careful not to doubt our events. He also mentions Canadian scholar Nikolai Sinai, who debunked the myths of Renaissance figure Casanova.
- 01:30:00 Discusses some of the issues surrounding Quranic studies in the West and how Orientalists often dominate the discourse. He also discusses how the Annabelle Room, a YouTube channel devoted to the study of the Qur'an, is free and open to anyone.
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0:00:00 assalamualaikum warahmatullahi0:00:01 wabarakatu and welcome to the third0:00:03 podcast here with a lot of Manhattan how0:00:07 are you is dead who's been in the UAE0:00:14 research and education is doing there0:00:17 and marshal life in instructor for very0:00:21 long time is known online before we get0:00:24 started0:00:25 this is just a good place to start with0:00:27 the podcast I mean you've been involved0:00:29 in many kind of educational programs0:00:30 teaching and learning for some years how0:00:35 would you advise a beginner student of0:00:37 knowledge did you die hard I mean the0:00:42 whole Hum Dil Hassan what's the net will0:00:44 Jamil or I should do a yahoodi' shitty0:00:47 killer why should you and I say then I0:00:48 want to be and i'm mohammed salameh re0:00:50 he were early he was Harvey with Derby0:00:53 arena learning in a young Medina mother0:00:55 the path to knowledge is a very deep and0:01:00 the scholars they say it's battler Sahil0:01:02 Allahu it's an ocean that doesn't have a0:01:05 shore so you're going to spend the rest0:01:07 of your life learning once you take this0:01:10 path you will never feel like you've0:01:13 learned enough rather the more you learn0:01:15 the more it becomes clear to you that0:01:17 you don't know and every time you read0:01:21 the Quran you remember the ayah or folk0:01:23 will be there in Manali that every0:01:26 knowledge that you may have accumulated0:01:28 and gathered Allahu Allah0:01:31 is more knowledgeable than you and knows0:01:33 more when the scholars define a rhythm0:01:37 they say that reading is in the Rock0:01:39 will show you a drama who re in rock and0:01:40 jazz EEMA0:01:41 it is to know something as it is with0:01:44 certainty so is to perceive something as0:01:47 it is with certainty so the knowledge0:01:52 that really a person should give a lot0:01:56 of time to is a real monk or annual0:01:58 Sunnah an e-learning the speech of Allah0:02:00 who subhana wa ta'ala and the tradition0:02:03 of the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa0:02:04 sallam ah I mean those are the two which0:02:07 our salvation and our prosperity is0:02:10 connected to Allah0:02:12 Hana wa'ta'ala he says in the head of0:02:15 Khurana here nearly lady here up one0:02:17 more you Bushiroad mean and latina yeah0:02:18 I'm a-gonna sorry Hardwick0:02:20 a la semana each other he says in had an0:02:23 ASD ility here aqua well you best she0:02:26 don't wear Bashir al mumineen alladhina0:02:29 amanu no sorry hockey and neuron Kabira0:02:32 final Edina liability I didn't allahumma0:02:35 Devin other man Alima0:02:37 so this aura on guides to the best of0:02:40 affairs it saves you from many0:02:44 destruction and many pain and it also0:02:49 guides you when mothers feel misguided0:02:52 and when people are in darkness is if0:02:54 you have this Quran you feel joy but I0:02:58 delicately mama shot to me he says and0:03:00 he's captured with Emanuel what return0:03:01 if your karate Saba he says that what I0:03:06 do for in about do for Hubble of life in0:03:09 Akita boohoo Vijaya he'd be similarly0:03:11 damaja billah al Aug Dayton the Adamu0:03:15 Ali allergy demo villa re all marble0:03:18 karma mr. 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some issues even as0:16:04 preservation of the Quran there's0:16:05 discussion with them on some issues we0:16:07 shouldn't generalize the old for them0:16:08 but ala kulli mama shout to me you rahim0:16:11 allah in his own emmanuel what return he0:16:13 said something very powerful he said why0:16:15 morality are sinful cara a timid Harun0:16:18 fat noon eternity here Lavar Mitaka Fela0:16:20 he says that in the Quran art there is0:16:24 nothing which is HT hat is no0:16:26 independent reasoning in karate and it's0:16:28 all taken from the prophet and Allah and0:16:30 it's from the Mutara it's before you get0:16:33 a because this might get a lot of people0:16:36 not listening here I just wanna make0:16:37 sure that right so beginning what you0:16:41 were showing was that there's the0:16:43 impossibility the in conceivability that0:16:47 the Muslim could say something other0:16:50 than that which Allah had transmitted to0:16:53 him based on the quranic text and then0:16:56 you showed okay so the Companions their0:16:59 understanding was that there's no way0:17:01 that they could recite okay something or0:17:05 transmit this you to transmit something0:17:07 as pour on yeah which is other than that0:17:10 which the Prophet transmitted to them0:17:13 Ali thought to Sonya with me so far now0:17:16 you on the stage where you're trying to0:17:18 show that the authorities the Islamic0:17:20 authorities were also of the same0:17:22 opinion so you've mentioned in Missouri0:17:23 and I'm about with Danny that's that's0:17:26 where you're right okay and0:17:29 this concept of the Quran being0:17:32 preserved is something a lot of promised0:17:33 us that he's going to take it upon0:17:35 himself to protect the Quran Allah says0:17:36 in the Quran in an eternity clock well0:17:40 in that Allah hath alone and this is0:17:43 that this distinct unique thing Allah0:17:45 gave to Omar - Omar to Muhammad over the0:17:47 other nations the other previous nations0:17:50 Allah khabar 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doubted0:18:52 the Quran from the messenger alia salat0:18:54 wa salam0:18:55 but with that said the Prophet was still0:18:57 commanded to convey the message first a0:18:59 lot I told this matter first da Bao0:19:02 Marable re mushrikeen Muhammad go0:19:05 forward convey your message and ignore0:19:07 the apologists and the Christian the0:19:09 disbelievers ignore them and he you've0:19:12 got the truth with you0:19:13 these people have a preconceived notion0:19:15 they haven't belief if you come with0:19:18 anything they're not we need to take it0:19:20 that's what I'm not told of the Prophet0:19:21 sometimes becomes that and they wouldn't0:19:23 take the message salam ala a DIN with0:19:25 cinema and i lost about a collector ala0:19:26 he said to him well in kanikapila area0:19:29 home for in stop and her battalion f0:19:32 uckin feel or do suleiman fisherman0:19:33 faculty on B ayah voila Khadija Robles0:19:37 unlike America to Allah he says well you0:19:40 can a couple Erica our album if these0:19:42 peoples turning away from Islam has0:19:44 become heavy on you Muhammad in China0:19:45 Cobra album in Stata and temporarily0:19:48 another config are the old cinema Fisher0:19:50 my effect at Giambi aya if you want to0:19:54 have me to take a ladder to go up to the0:19:56 sky and to bring them the guidance but0:19:58 you won't do so leave it to us we're the0:20:00 ones that were gonna guide who we want0:20:02 and we're gonna leave the one we weren't0:20:04 misguided what I'm trying to get from0:20:06 there is so what I'm trying to get from0:20:10 there is that there are always going to0:20:12 be people who are going to question the0:20:13 authority of the Quran and whether the0:20:16 Quran is preserved0:20:17 we cannot convince every single body0:20:20 because of the nature of some people0:20:22 it's not me play devil's advocate for a0:20:25 while and since you want to0:20:27 I mean clearly now and one of the0:20:30 arguments that Muslims use with0:20:33 non-muslims for the truth of Islam and0:20:35 for the truth on the prophethood of0:20:37 Muhammad is if not one of the main0:20:40 arguments is that we have it preserved0:20:42 book whereas the Christians and Jews0:20:45 their traditions have not been preserved0:20:48 that the Old Testament is not preserved0:20:51 that the New Testament is not preserved0:20:55 so the first question is how you've kind0:20:58 of gone about showing us the Quran how0:21:01 it's that the Prophet couldn't have0:21:04 taken it from said something from0:21:08 himself that arm that the Sahaba0:21:10 couldn't have said something from their0:21:11 own selves now the question how would0:21:13 you go about explaining why there are0:21:16 differences in some readings because0:21:18 someone could argue okay that's fine but0:21:22 there's a lot of variance you know you0:21:24 have some variant readings like Melek0:21:26 and Melek you have these variants like0:21:28 you can be born actually born December 20:21:30 the way yellow all of these are variant0:21:31 readings which actually do have an0:21:33 impact on the the meaning so if it's0:21:38 meant to be one text which is0:21:40 unchangeable and how comes we have these0:21:43 variants beautiful now we go to an issue0:21:47 called the there art of the Quran we0:21:50 have0:21:51 the very different types of recitation0:21:53 of the Quran0:21:54 you see these clear art that we have0:21:57 today as I said it's the Quran that we0:22:00 have the most prominent of those clear0:22:06 art is the seven that I mentioned0:22:08 Alabama shout to be collected in his0:22:10 kitab heads with a mani or what retain0:22:13 the seven I mentioned when he said when0:22:21 he said as a law bill hierarchy and0:22:22 imitate Lennon a colossal Sarah Furman0:22:26 who do Rho sub attend katawa Sadat0:22:28 Samaria well at least over local mela0:22:30 he's only 17 and then he goes to each0:22:33 and every one of those seven the0:22:35 scholars in his lab all unanimously0:22:39 agree that these seven are taken from0:22:45 nebula in Mohammed who took from debris0:22:47 from Allah Azza WA Jalla I'm gonna0:22:49 quickly go through the name before0:22:51 before we continue what you're saying is0:22:53 that all of the variant readings all of0:22:56 the very readings within the Islamic0:22:59 tradition within the Quran it's not0:23:01 something which is additional to the0:23:04 text but is explained through the0:23:07 Prophet Muhammad SAW sermons interaction0:23:09 with a line you're gonna tell us what0:23:10 the 77 actual okay so now we have a0:23:14 discussion of some ask and they put0:23:18 forward regarding the issue of you know0:23:21 the Allah Hafiz Sabah I'm going to try0:23:24 to simplify a long ongoing you're the0:23:30 expert you taught me what's the best0:23:31 translation may be modes I don't know0:23:33 seven it's probably best to keep as is0:23:36 yeah I like I like to leave it as it is0:23:39 and in explaining for people now let me0:23:41 explain let me explain something0:23:42 the the the 7f and it's a clear left0:23:50 amongst the scholars what is actually0:23:51 meant by let me actually go through the0:23:53 hadith of the pasta madre cinema where0:23:55 he it's all about he speaks about some0:23:57 other the seventh the professor larry0:23:59 Salima he said in a hadith unzila for0:24:03 the Quran0:24:04 sent down in seven hours Kulu her chef0:24:07 in Katherine all of them are what0:24:09 sufficient and all of them are enough0:24:12 I'm either sufficing and enough and0:24:15 curing good in another rewire when the0:24:20 professor Larry said I'm an argument0:24:22 happened between Hisham you know Hakim0:24:26 and Mahabharata on who the Prophet Allah0:24:30 really mean he told both of them in the0:24:32 huddle Quran in surah al-ahzab a roofing0:24:35 estimate is salami no I want to mention0:24:37 a benefit here but even not though the0:24:40 sub the sub roof was motivated from the0:24:45 messenger re salat WA Salam0:24:47 Ramar didn't know one and Hisham didn't0:24:50 know one which the scholars take from0:24:52 the Ottawa Toluca Diablo Coleman do0:24:54 Nicole mean important something could be0:24:58 motivated in one land and not in another0:25:01 land0:25:01 does this debunks on this story here0:25:04 just to kind of I think it's a very0:25:05 important story just to kind of break it0:25:08 down so what you're saying is that our0:25:10 local table was praying and and Shimon0:25:13 Hakim was praying and the reciting Susan0:25:15 for pond and a bomb in this generation0:25:19 any girl from room here0:25:21 it was listening to show saying some0:25:25 things which are slightly different from0:25:27 what he had been taught to her and so0:25:32 wanted to cease Sharon happy me want to0:25:35 grab him you know because of he thought0:25:38 that he was distorting the Quran or0:25:39 something like this after the prayer0:25:41 finished he took him to perform Salah0:25:44 solemn and then he said he said you read0:25:46 you read your way of reciting surah0:25:50 Furqan chapter 25 of Quran so he read it0:25:53 and then he said you read and then he0:25:55 read it right and then the Prophet he0:25:57 affirmed that both of them are correct0:26:01 readings they're they're both true0:26:03 readings they're both something which0:26:05 was revealed together Nazareth or Xena0:26:07 yeah so this is the way kind of came0:26:10 down like this and so what you're saying0:26:13 here just so sorry if correct me from0:26:15 wrong is you're saying the Quran0:26:17 omission0:26:18 has a multi formal basis in other words0:26:23 there are some words not all words the0:26:25 storyline will remain the same the0:26:27 narrative will remain the same0:26:28 well there are some select words which0:26:30 will be revealed in slightly varied0:26:33 meanings and that's not despite the text0:26:36 that's because of the masala making0:26:39 director to Allah and then the it0:26:42 subsequently Allah revealing certain0:26:44 words in varied ways but if you would0:26:48 say they all point in the same direction0:26:49 and they're all from and one either0:26:51 complement wise this is this what yeah0:26:54 correct correct correct yeah so they all0:26:56 complement one another and by the way0:26:58 this topic of a lot of the Saba it's not0:27:03 a topic I can really talk about in0:27:05 details you know in this podcast because0:27:06 I'm just gonna mention I'll a severely0:27:08 come teeny little house from it's gonna0:27:10 give some examples of the scholars0:27:11 who've written books early mammal0:27:13 related customers salon who died here0:27:16 224 he Julia here's the key table on the0:27:19 surface Abba if you put a button Allah0:27:21 is a key tab on it I will father Lord0:27:24 Ozzy has a key carbonic mohammed el0:27:25 Makdessi0:27:26 has a kick up on it jay-z has a kick up0:27:29 on Sheikh Mohammed behead theory has a0:27:31 key table on it0:27:33 the from the more a theory a dr0:27:35 abdulaziz al khali who's analytically to0:27:37 Quran and creamy German Lamia madina0:27:38 munawwara0:27:39 he's written a book on it and and has0:27:41 only a demon writer and he we're talking0:27:44 about thousands of pages recording this0:27:46 whole discussion are you saying this is0:27:48 no secret this is not something we're0:27:50 trying to hide all that0:27:59 I'm not not to mention0:28:01 scholars have mentioned when they came0:28:03 to this hadith if they didn't understand0:28:05 it properly and if they didn't know what0:28:08 it meant they didn't lie and say well0:28:10 this is what it means for example any0:28:12 mammal just earlier him Allah he said0:28:14 when I was able to study Callahan hadith0:28:15 oh well you see here another I mean0:28:18 they even with the Athena Senna had a0:28:20 factor Halawa Aria be my um Catania0:28:22 Kunis Robin Sharma and he pondered over0:28:24 the hadith he tried to understand it and0:28:27 he brought out the definition and the0:28:28 meaning for it0:28:29 Irie man even really rahim allah0:28:32 Michelle Kennedy mom Geraldine astutely0:28:36 he mentioned 40 views in regards to what0:28:38 it means what I want to say is that0:28:41 these views these views are divided into0:28:44 two now and in the reviews regarding a0:28:47 lot of this table are are categorized0:28:49 into two the first view is this small0:28:52 area tend to be views that we don't give0:28:55 any consideration to judoka Adam its0:28:58 presence is like its absence0:29:00 you see yeah the second one is Allah0:29:06 Allah is your to be here we give it0:29:09 weight and we say it has the needful0:29:14 Joomla generally has evidences or super0:29:17 super to Delhi they believe kind of0:29:21 points that direct continue hey just to0:29:24 kind of once again consolidate food0:29:26 because a lot of viewers just want some0:29:29 reason and because this is something0:29:30 that my experience they are they've0:29:32 asked for what you're saying is that yes0:29:36 in regards to the apples which are the0:29:39 different ways we said slightly0:29:42 different ways in which some places on0:29:43 the person is manifests in the text what0:29:53 that exactly means this specific notion0:29:56 is something that there is disagreement0:29:58 upon among the scholars that we don't0:30:00 hide that disagreement there is this0:30:01 agree but what a chunk of that0:30:03 disagreement is not connected to the0:30:05 actual evidences and it's just guesswork0:30:08 from non-specialists so it shouldn't be0:30:10 seen as I counted as among the 40 you0:30:13 know prominent opinions is that what0:30:15 you're saying sorry let me give an0:30:17 example of something that I tend to find0:30:19 with ATS sometimes when we talk about0:30:20 issue of voodoo the shuttle the0:30:22 existence of evil sometimes you see some0:30:26 of the most we mentioned the existence0:30:27 of evil or evil being there and then0:30:29 they they jump to the existence of God0:30:33 from evil being there to the existence0:30:36 of God Danny if hypothetically I say0:30:39 there is only evil there is no good on0:30:40 this earth everything is evil that does0:30:43 not in any way shape or form0:30:44 conclude to the issue of0:30:46 God exists or not the connection is far0:30:49 yeah Nina what I say is the definition0:30:52 of the arrow facade ah ha and what the0:30:55 scholars the forty views and Malakar is0:30:57 making it a be one extra view making it0:31:00 41 views whichever of those views you0:31:03 take however weak that view is it0:31:05 doesn't in any way shape or form have0:31:08 any effect on the preservation of the0:31:11 poor on right0:31:12 so what you're saying of those views0:31:15 whatever view you have on what the house0:31:18 is it I'm gonna make and if it's not0:31:21 gonna have an impact0:31:22 it's not gonna have an impact on the0:31:24 fact that the Quran is itself preserved0:31:27 so hey so this is of opinion is doesn't0:31:30 there's not much at stake here with this0:31:32 difference of opinion is well it's not0:31:36 true there isn't so a lot of the times0:31:40 people generally start to think oh0:31:42 because it's not known what it means0:31:43 whichever view I take in my effect me0:31:46 believing the Quran is preserved or not0:31:47 and to be honest I actually received the0:31:49 email from someone who actually did say0:31:50 that to me or even ask me that question0:31:52 so after explaining that to them and0:31:54 giving them a bit more details which is0:31:58 shallower I want to say that I'm not0:32:00 trying to avoid answering this question0:32:02 of what a lot officer I means and which0:32:04 view is strongest but it's a it requires0:32:07 a more detailed session a course in0:32:11 Charlotte era I'm going to be doing a0:32:13 memory inshallah where I'm gonna bring0:32:16 all of the forty-something views I'm0:32:18 gonna present each view and what their0:32:20 argument is and what the evidence that0:32:21 they used and then if someone I'm going0:32:23 to show why this view was critiqued why0:32:26 this critique view was critiqued and0:32:28 insha'Allah Allah then come to a0:32:30 conclusion which we believe to be the0:32:32 closest to that being right in Xiamen I0:32:35 just want to name some scholars who all0:32:37 said that the Quran preservation is by0:32:42 itamar and it there's no difference of0:32:43 opinion if I can just quickly name those0:32:46 scholars so but we've I think we can0:32:50 move on from the issue of Allah the fact0:32:52 that the issue that let's just do a0:32:55 quick summary once again on this0:32:57 so to summarize and once0:32:59 you know anything just let me know0:33:01 anything you're saying yeah he made the0:33:10 act to a loss of hano time that the0:33:12 Quran is revealed in some slightly0:33:16 different ways to facilitate a see at0:33:18 ease for the people that was done and0:33:22 then the Quran was revealed an offensive0:33:24 and yeah in 7f which the scholars0:33:27 disagreed the meaning of we can't say0:33:29 okay this one opinion in Islam and0:33:30 everything is however there is this0:33:32 disagreement but that disagreement0:33:34 there's nothing at stake with it because0:33:35 what we're talking about is the type of0:33:38 difference between the variations we0:33:41 don't know exactly what the type of0:33:43 difference is but we do know there's0:33:44 some kind of variation like if you look0:33:46 at the kilowatt you see that there's0:33:48 some kind of variation the exact0:33:49 categorization and specific notion of0:33:52 what that categorization is or that that0:33:55 variation is is not something scholars0:33:57 have United upon and therefore ever0:34:00 opinion you take for am under forty0:34:01 opinions so cooled opinions which I mean0:34:04 you agree that what most of them are not0:34:06 about a Muslim not to the MS Ella and0:34:09 even if you take the weakest of those0:34:10 fourteen there were no weaken the0:34:12 weakest one the the one that has the0:34:14 most implications and consequences0:34:16 really it's inconsequential because it's0:34:19 not going to affect the fact that the0:34:21 Quran is transmitted in the way you've0:34:23 described the being in the show is to to0:34:27 to the table and chose transmitted form0:34:29 they went with its preservation a last0:34:33 altima entrusted what they transmitted0:34:35 everything the way they heard it and so0:34:37 there's nothing at stake with that and0:34:40 one more thing I think is very important0:34:42 to our outline with that for for someone0:34:44 for anyone from it is that there's a big0:34:46 misconception you know in some of the0:34:48 comparative religious work I do we speak0:34:51 to Christians and Jews whatever it is0:34:53 yeah and we say look our book is0:34:55 protected and it's preserved and yours0:34:57 clearly isn't and when we then ask to0:35:00 show why is it that your book is not0:35:02 protect protectors and ours is things we0:35:05 definitely put forward not know what is0:35:07 the change of transmission so we put0:35:09 forward the fact as you've mentioned0:35:11 that there is0:35:13 people a multiplicity of people and on0:35:16 the top-level transmitting that evidence0:35:18 that same Quran the same message to the0:35:21 next generation and it keeps going like0:35:22 that but there's a chain of narration0:35:24 whereas with the Old Testament in the0:35:26 New Testament there's no chain of0:35:27 narration such notion doesn't exist and0:35:29 the second we say is that a lot of you0:35:33 know apologists and Muslim still I don't0:35:36 that just just add another point which0:35:37 is that any man has a Muhammad - kitab0:35:40 and Fissel familiar film it went away0:35:42 when had he mentioned that this concept0:35:46 overly snide and chaining is the house0:35:48 is house to Muhammad this is a big thing0:35:51 that we have so much to be said0:35:54 umma to be snug hmm did Erica some of0:35:58 the Imam or do they used to say Lola is0:36:00 now doula column and share I'm Asha and0:36:02 it's not immunity or all at least not0:36:04 dual apartment sure I'm Asha that is not0:36:06 is the religion and without it you need0:36:09 a chain and if without it anybody would0:36:11 have claimed what they want it now so0:36:13 that's the first thing and so and the0:36:15 second thing is this that the variants0:36:18 that exist within the Quranic discourse0:36:21 they exist because of Sabah they0:36:27 explained the variants in fact there was0:36:30 no hope of Sabah and the assumption was0:36:32 there is a fixed text that I should read0:36:35 in one way and then there was variants0:36:38 that were found that would be0:36:39 problematic but in fact thing is the0:36:41 fact that Sabah are in there that is an0:36:46 explanatory mechanism to show why in0:36:49 fact this variation between a Quran R&B0:36:52 of Clara and so on and so it all goes0:36:53 back to the professor whether you read0:36:55 at malakoma Dean the day of judgment or0:36:57 Medicare would be in the king of the Day0:36:58 of Judgment both of that goes back to0:37:01 approve Mohammed Buddha is legitimized0:37:03 but as the backing of the Quran the0:37:06 backing of Allah the backing of the0:37:07 Prophet yeah0:37:08 and so if if if this is a very important0:37:12 thing from comparative religion0:37:13 perspective the assumption with the four0:37:16 Gospels is that it's a fixed text that0:37:19 this mission that's the same where is0:37:22 the Assumption with the Quranic0:37:24 discourse is that it's not a fixed text0:37:26 it's a functional text it has multi0:37:32 different multi-variant text and has0:37:34 different kinds of variants in each word0:37:36 you know so in so therefore if the0:37:39 assumption was the same then the0:37:41 standard could be the same of0:37:43 measurement so if we find variants for0:37:45 the Bible it's not the same finding0:37:47 variants for the parameter I think there0:37:49 is no commands explained through this0:37:51 about of a server whereas in the Bible0:37:54 baba equivalent went in so I think it's0:37:57 very important that because it's not0:37:59 like for like here is what we try to0:38:01 communicate the fact that the profiles0:38:03 are Salim he authenticated and0:38:05 authorized legitimize the the charata0:38:09 of sham hacking and also a new hot tub0:38:12 and he said both of them was revealed0:38:15 like that hadith he actually asked Allah0:38:18 to facilitate ease for the Ummah by0:38:21 revealing certain words in certain0:38:22 different ways that is in fact already0:38:26 telling us that this these systems are0:38:28 different so now just to just to kind of0:38:33 survive instead of being a problem for0:38:35 us there's a solution because in fact0:38:39 with the Bible it's a fixed text and you0:38:41 have variants so how can you explain0:38:42 that us it's not a fixed text however0:38:44 having said that even though it's not a0:38:46 fixed text it all goes in one direction0:38:47 so I think it's very important that we0:38:49 outlined the fact that even those0:38:52 variants are slack saying blue and dark0:38:54 blue is going in the same exact0:38:56 direction it's not like is narrative0:38:58 altering direction yep0:39:01 and so that's that's an important thing0:39:04 the third thing I want to say is that on0:39:07 all right we call text criticism0:39:09 perspective like the biblical dispose0:39:11 there's no harmonizing method which is0:39:14 very important gigantic text criticism0:39:17 when they say the Bible in there saying0:39:19 okay what verse should we put in what0:39:20 verse should we're not going they don't0:39:22 have for us we have the seventh circle0:39:25 mobile or something is dying it's not0:39:27 gonna be ready no such thing they have0:39:32 to have any harmonizing method it's0:39:35 Russian equivalent so we have a0:39:37 consonant0:39:37 skeleton which is not many0:39:40 and then the the text many texts and0:39:44 they don't have that so it's a poor so0:39:46 far that we're saying that these are the0:39:47 differences between our tradition and0:39:50 their tradition it's not it's not a lot0:39:52 for like comparison so when they say0:39:53 well you got variance as well say well0:39:55 we play not very said okay for that well0:39:58 how do you explain your variance that's0:40:00 important0:40:01 I think closes the door now add to it0:40:04 another thing I think that's generally0:40:06 detached from the discussion as well is0:40:08 that the nature of these people was0:40:10 Kadir to him these people not just they0:40:14 were memorizes they memorized poetry by0:40:16 hearing it once0:40:17 honey every one place would come to the0:40:19 car bar and stand and read his mana card0:40:21 okay fair enough comedic raha beeping0:40:23 woman dealing basically Robin yeah and0:40:25 he would read it from memory and people0:40:29 would memorize it and they will transmit0:40:30 that to each other this book so I really0:40:35 apologize0:40:36 well this man could also be seen in some0:40:39 of his works he's actually he's got this0:40:47 one the scribes are the profile he's0:40:48 also got another one of preservation so0:40:52 they can I mentioned in the Quran and I0:40:59 had to be in at Rufus who do the lady0:41:01 Naruto lady and in the Quran is I mean0:41:04 it's something that's in the chest so0:41:05 memory memorization from the beginning0:41:08 of an Islam it was something I was0:41:10 getting given a lot of consideration to0:41:11 I want to bring to the people's0:41:13 attention it's not just even the issue0:41:15 is nad and transmission I said if you0:41:17 add the issue of memorization and the0:41:19 issue of number and it's not just you0:41:23 know and the process of transmitting0:41:24 this information or transmitting this0:41:26 recitation he's actually passing it to a0:41:28 large quantity of people yes on Ilario0:41:30 cinnamon0:41:31 there's a large quantity of people were0:41:33 transmitted I wanna remember Hardy0:41:35 narrated in his sorry I mean I have0:41:37 eaten our best and enemies saliva so0:41:39 hard I feel my body mean el-medina to a0:41:41 Chaba to LFE0:41:42 Danny the postal on my left in Roma Bahn0:41:45 from Medina and there was only 10,0000:41:47 people with and that's not all of his0:41:49 companions he just wanted to leave0:41:50 Medina0:41:52 with his companions and 10,000 people0:41:54 followed him so la la la with cinema now0:41:56 you can imagine these 10,000 people0:41:58 they're gonna pray with him mother0:42:00 Asia and Federer and I specifically0:42:03 mentioned three Sorrell three solos0:42:05 another one yeah loud and so the process0:42:10 Aaron was known to recite for example0:42:11 somewhat on Monday he was recite 600:42:14 verse ezel I mean I'm sort of long0:42:16 swords but lead McRib very long and so0:42:20 they hear the Quran from him early salat0:42:22 wa salam and they memorize it from him0:42:23 and this is doing 23 years 23 years very0:42:28 I mean that's a quarter of a century0:42:29 almost I mean people we have to really0:42:31 consider that I mean 23 years0:42:33 it's not like a day or two or a week or0:42:35 a year that's a long time for people to0:42:38 continuously being exposed to the same0:42:39 material0:42:40 now what's mind-boggling that really0:42:43 took me is that I came across study for0:42:45 the massacre last year couple years back0:42:47 when I was reading it Terasaki it made0:42:50 he mentioned something really took me0:42:51 about a year to find this book that is0:42:56 nice ankl deal yeah yeah so it's most0:43:00 historic history history history book0:43:02 yeah as I could I will cost him an even0:43:05 has a cure he mentioned something very0:43:08 powerful very powerful he said and I0:43:12 will repay I will redo lie Muslim you0:43:14 know Mike Shanin he said call le Abu0:43:16 Darda of the allah and i will remain0:43:21 muslim with new mission in he said that0:43:24 i woulda said to him so this weight is0:43:28 saying the companion abu durga commanded0:43:31 me to do something you know what he told0:43:33 him to do he said dude man you crawl in0:43:35 there and count the students who are0:43:38 present who are listening to my Quran0:43:40 I'm teaching them about the blessings so0:43:43 I will remain Muslim even a mix I mean0:43:45 he said I stood up to count the students0:43:47 of Abu Darda who had taken the Quran0:43:50 from him I mean he said I counted and I0:43:52 reached for a debt to elfin was it to me0:43:55 at Lee when a even 1600 and something0:44:01 hmmm let's just say 1,600 you know who0:44:05 was in that gathering even where I am it0:44:08 mm whoosh am one of the Kirara0:44:11 somehow we take he was sitting in that0:44:14 gathering taking the Quran from him so0:44:16 you have to understand that even though0:44:18 I'm Emily said it it's not a Hadiya by0:44:20 himself when you look at it0:44:21 he's got 1599 students are taking the0:44:27 quran with him0:44:28 this is a really good piece of0:44:29 information and at this point well I0:44:31 think we need to clarify is the0:44:33 difference between a pillar and a half0:44:35 so the cotton asana or lash the ten or0:44:39 seven pierot are different by consensus0:44:43 to the do you know why people actually0:44:48 do that mistake and they actually0:44:49 confuse the two0:44:50 you know why that even0:45:00 action of making it into seven was where0:45:03 the issue came from me if if he did what0:45:06 a bloke a local goon did local goon made0:45:10 it eight if it just made it eight or so0:45:13 on or six people will not confused it so0:45:17 this is really important now because I0:45:18 think a lot of people have this0:45:20 misconception the pirata why is it this0:45:24 is a very important question because0:45:26 people are completely confused on this0:45:27 one why is the Koran different from the0:45:31 half now let me give you my short answer0:45:34 and can you expand on it and correct if0:45:36 it needs to crush direction the short0:45:39 answer is because the caller who is the0:45:43 reciter whether a seven or ten or twenty0:45:46 or a thousand it doesn't matter how many0:45:48 there are is simply listening to the tab0:45:51 on his teacher0:45:53 and he's listening to how he's reciting0:45:55 the Quran he might have listened to it0:45:58 for more than one share and he's0:46:01 choosing the clutter is choosing I the0:46:05 animal caught it is choosing either I'm0:46:07 gonna put Malik Oh Malik I'm gonna0:46:10 recite because you cannot recite in two0:46:11 different ways you can only recite one0:46:12 way one time so you think okay so there0:46:16 is a choice that is made by the product0:46:18 the cauda is choosing to either recite0:46:21 Malik or which means owner or King Malik0:46:25 it's the are you caught it now this0:46:27 choice is limited to the available0:46:30 options all of which have been0:46:32 legitimized by prefer male Salah all of0:46:34 which are motivated as well and all of0:46:36 which are motivated which have a perfect0:46:38 salad of multiple multiplicity of people0:46:42 a plethora of individuals at each stage0:46:43 so he's making a choice yes the caller0:46:46 is making a choice I'm gonna say either0:46:48 medical you can't say mannequin0:46:49 mannequin the same time in the prayer0:46:50 he's choosing either got to say Manik0:46:53 which means oh now I'm gonna say King0:46:55 and that choice that he's making is0:46:58 limited by the available options this0:47:01 example of Malik Malik of the 10th color0:47:04 as that Eden Jerry mentioned in his0:47:06 nature and you know six of them recites0:47:11 her as manic as King and four of them0:47:13 recites as Malik so in that of 10 P over0:47:16 they had a decision to make I don't0:47:20 gonna recite asthmatic which is legit oh0:47:22 we're gonna recite says Malik which is0:47:24 also legit four of them made one0:47:27 decision to recite as owner and six made0:47:30 another site as king but both of those0:47:33 and a complementary country distinct0:47:36 tree so they don't contradict each other0:47:37 and they both have elite the prophetic0:47:40 backing they are both masculine and0:47:43 authorized the stunt will prove our0:47:44 Messiah and able to at this current0:47:47 motivator so that therefore the0:47:49 difference between the card or Clara and0:47:51 the house is that the caller is choosing0:47:55 the the very legitimate variant he's0:47:59 choosing which variant to go in there is0:48:03 a choice to be made now we can't make a0:48:05 choice like the parameter because0:48:07 it's already been standardized and folk0:48:09 has been the formula has been laid and0:48:11 this is round korat they've been left so0:48:15 many times but in in theory I mean if0:48:18 some in theory if someone wanted to mix0:48:20 the Korat and they pray in their own0:48:22 homes0:48:23 I read in him Jesse he said this fine I0:48:25 mean it's not it's not fit is another0:48:28 Messiah idea because someone will say0:48:31 okay why not mix but it's not a problem0:48:32 exactly it's not an issue for us that0:48:34 the point what I'm making is that all of0:48:37 it is Quran all of it legitimate all of0:48:40 it goes back to performances and all of0:48:42 it is authentic yes there was a decision0:48:44 that the caller had to make but it was0:48:46 limited by the available options0:48:49 therefore the available healthy options0:48:51 they were there and the collet St Ankara0:48:54 it shows something which was and limited0:48:57 and had would you act for the chorus I0:49:03 wanted to read manikins summit is a0:49:05 system of care and if tiara let me0:49:07 mention some of the Imams who mentioned0:49:09 the preservation of the Quran to be0:49:11 motivated remember Noah will rahamallah0:49:13 any mama was serrated no loopy I0:49:15 remember Dean and movie and ye you I0:49:18 would Hassan a new reuse of ARCA see you0:49:21 I'm a sifaka see you an imam abu bakr0:49:24 IBN arabi a romantic e UD any blue0:49:25 taenia0:49:26 I remember Tina circa she had you Dina0:49:28 Suki whether you Dina was rocky even a0:49:30 middle tele-dentistry ot she had0:49:33 with Dean Armadale Banda and Imam even0:49:35 hasn't in0:49:36 remember haramein about my linguine I0:49:38 would worry diminution reject a theory0:49:40 denied na Hyun Jung Cedeno Jerry and I0:49:43 were best al Lewis Alwyn Shari see these0:49:47 Imams all have said once they look at0:49:51 the Quran they said that this is motor0:49:53 water maybe a manatee0:49:58 yeah to be fair in our transmission0:50:02 Marine Mammal Jerry needs a discussion0:50:04 the cola very much a jury has to0:50:08 makalah the one he says indeed umma0:50:10 Korean and the one he says in his0:50:11 national but as I shall Allah promised0:50:15 that in my host that I will be doing I0:50:17 will shallow lob tackling yes0:50:20 I think this point of the two questions0:50:24 we asked one question is hell eh Danny0:50:27 pool and ketamine in the second car who0:50:30 is in order for Katya here does and the0:50:37 other question is is there a motivator0:50:38 these questions are not the same for0:50:40 example Han does it for karate be0:50:43 correct and sound does it need to have0:50:45 to watch it stopped0:50:47 that's what Jesse was discussing some0:50:50 say sugar I started to show however and0:50:52 some say no but the question of is it0:50:54 turbo to writer I have not seen he less0:50:56 like some people say this is not enough0:51:01 he does mention in his body but inertia0:51:03 which is a poetry of his inertia he says0:51:05 for hulu maracas watchin are we what0:51:07 Colonel it was me Tim Allen are we0:51:09 what's AHA is not and who al-quran oh0:51:11 very Hitler to our Channel hi to my0:51:14 gurukul HBT0:51:15 to do the hula and know who FISA battle0:51:17 so here was my snare then when he says0:51:20 for example yes ah hi Schneider so this0:51:23 mostella of the river from allah and0:51:26 also abu sharma tell McGee see and their0:51:28 collab inshallah0:51:31 I really want to go in details regarding0:51:33 it because I have a research on that0:51:34 this is very important just to translate0:51:36 what you say is probably the foremost0:51:42 authority in the last thousand years0:51:45 but let me let me just say something0:51:47 sorry I'm sorry sorry to interrupt your0:51:49 media story interrupting there's two0:51:51 things in New Jersey rahim allah has in0:51:53 his inertial ignore jazeera him hola0:51:55 see how to mislead so how to listen add0:51:58 that the robot are bobby'll in the0:52:01 transmission yeah no 30 cities not and0:52:08 the water reliable eccentric secure and0:52:11 in his kitab and he mentions0:52:14 schwa the image guitar which really0:52:16 means as we very popular popular you0:52:20 know in his mockery in he added another0:52:22 condition which is Omaha's to accept it0:52:27 with acceptance or something which wide0:52:30 sprint why it's not it so it's team into0:52:32 two things0:52:33 had to be snack yeah sure0:52:37 translate please so happiness that means0:52:39 authentically transmitted yeah0:52:41 the second thing is mentioned in surah0:52:42 that is famous copy long and Kabul that0:52:48 the Ummah are unanimously in agreement0:52:50 regarding it0:52:51 yeah iijima yeah so this is that is the0:52:58 triangulating method because the0:53:00 triangulating method that even Jerry0:53:02 mentioned he was it has to be in like a0:53:06 little structure of dr. anak script it0:53:10 has that chain of narration which is0:53:12 authentic and it also has to have be in0:53:16 line with the Arabic language so with0:53:18 the with the first high Arabic language0:53:19 and these three conditions must be met0:53:21 in order for it to be and that I which0:53:24 is Nakamura ICT for it to be read in the0:53:26 prayer and to be remove refer to as0:53:28 Quran this look a lot of people know0:53:30 because let me tell you let me play0:53:32 those haven't come clean I think will be0:53:34 bouncing from each other about so you0:53:35 solve the things that people have been0:53:36 saying someone says okay well fine0:53:38 that's no problem what we've seen that0:53:39 it must hold and even our best and obey0:53:41 beam cab and the Sahaba0:53:43 many of them yeah they have this is a0:53:46 put the show ahead to you and this is0:53:47 the kind of thing we'll hear from0:53:49 missionaries and uneducated they'll0:53:52 say look how could it be the case if0:53:56 this is what the Quran is so the Quran0:53:58 is that which corresponds with that0:53:59 triangulating method then you have some0:54:03 of the color art of it not best of them0:54:06 it must although this person gather and0:54:09 they differ in the consonant to0:54:12 structure not just in Carrara may have0:54:15 tamil who Russian what the what the0:54:17 actual Continental structure can contain0:54:19 but theyÃve differ from the continental0:54:23 skeletal structure from that which is0:54:25 mention the Quran so how can you square0:54:27 that circle a sense that you're saying0:54:29 that whatever you're saying that the0:54:31 Quran is a veracious you're saying it's0:54:33 robust you're saying is transmitted and0:54:35 is transmitted with all of these0:54:37 authorities then how is it that you have0:54:39 these operational texts of even much0:54:43 older0:54:44 which clearly are differentiated from0:54:47 the continental skeletal structure on0:54:49 Batman Achmed a script and let me add0:54:53 extra thing on the Rizzo just to make it0:54:54 even more make the issue even more0:54:57 heavier on those people who say it life0:54:59 example some add on to that and say look0:55:01 I believe Miss Reed is the same guy that0:55:02 the process rallies and I'm I said the0:55:04 same so happy that the prophecy sets on0:55:05 my Mario sorry man0:55:06 anyone who wants to meet for an album0:55:08 Bunny and Cameroon Zilpha rock karate0:55:12 I mean karate even though I was the0:55:15 foremost heavyweight you know yeah0:55:17 especially just in authority but the0:55:23 fact that the prophecy said anyone wants0:55:24 to read the Quranic in the way comes0:55:26 down the way it's the purity of the0:55:28 Quran reading reading like a blood drive0:55:30 miss route so somebody would like you're0:55:32 telling me that some of his recitations0:55:33 being eliminated absolutely let me break0:55:41 the answer Allah Ta'ala into to them if0:55:43 my aim and objective is not really to go0:55:46 into this room has because they deserve0:55:49 a entire course just two or three that0:55:54 are very popular yeah Abdullah minimus0:55:56 Buddhist when the processor has said0:55:57 that he was referring to his0:55:58 pronunciation is articulation of the0:56:00 future to eat and the way he read it but0:56:02 it wasn't referring to his I hope I'm at0:56:04 the the the the the style of the Quran0:56:07 he was reciting it was Todd Reed and his0:56:10 mihari that's what the Prophet was0:56:11 referring to when he said if you want to0:56:13 read the Quran the way he came down0:56:14 because the Prophet only had a dragon is0:56:16 written in a prayer and he didn't hear0:56:17 his whole entire him pray and then he0:56:31 looked listen to his voice and he was0:56:32 amazed by it and then he said anyone who0:56:35 wants to read the Quran the way he came0:56:36 down and let me lay him read in the0:56:38 rewire the Quran the way of Abdullah0:56:41 numerous group the second part which is0:56:43 the clear art of some of the Companions0:56:47 like a dynamic Whitman he recited the0:56:49 goal of Allah subhana WA Ta'ala0:56:52 Shahani mutashabihat he returned yet he0:56:55 added on to it0:56:56 these are Clara0:56:58 which was something it was from the0:57:02 Prophet the Prophet assigned to be like0:57:04 that but the most half of man it chose0:57:07 this the reason why earth man's0:57:09 objective was to compile the Quran was0:57:12 not the goal of baka this is where many0:57:14 people get confused0:57:15 Abu Bakr was Mujahideen job is to bring0:57:18 the whole Quran together0:57:19 Larrick in verse man's reasoning of0:57:22 bringing the Quran together was the0:57:24 issue of the Gila that was told to him0:57:27 people were preferring their readings0:57:30 over there other people's readings and0:57:32 which we're not saying that some were0:57:34 right were wrong because remark and0:57:36 Hisham be but a Hakim had a but they at0:57:39 least had the Prophet with them many0:57:41 thought the Prophet is telling who's0:57:42 right from wrong but man was scared at0:57:44 this yeah yeah but there might come a0:57:52 time when there is there is no one who0:57:54 has knowledge enough to know so this man0:57:56 chose to resolve this whole situation by0:58:00 bringing a most half that brings and0:58:03 unites everyone onto this so every other0:58:06 recitation that the sahabas had this was0:58:09 the final conclusion this is the only0:58:11 one that the OMA are unanimously in0:58:13 agreement the sahabas all agreed upon it0:58:15 even finally I believe me miss root took0:58:17 this Ravi a long time0:58:19 I know Danny as Authority but it man's0:58:21 most awful era of derive enormous route0:58:26 it was taken from the messenger Ali0:58:28 salat wa salam it was a recitation i was0:58:30 taken from it but it wasn't added to the0:58:36 so you'll say why should we follow one0:58:40 man has ordered anyway yeah when he0:58:48 wrote the committee he gave it to0:58:50 everybody and he became an agreement0:58:51 amongst everybody that's number one0:58:53 number two the prosperity sermon0:58:55 commanded us he said are they can be0:58:56 thrown at you as soon as you qualify0:58:57 Rashi Dean already in I'm already having0:58:59 alleged0:59:01 so we were instructed to follow up with0:59:03 morality alarm I just because the other0:59:07 hadith says forty years isn't it0:59:09 actually there will be 40 years and if0:59:11 you add up0:59:11 the four key levers is actually four0:59:14 years that you know was a half and I'd0:59:20 leave me one for four years and a half0:59:21 and and so yeah I'm for ten years and0:59:23 six months four years and a half are0:59:25 easily months well that's all that's0:59:27 four years so what you're saying is that0:59:28 the Prophet gave us instruction to0:59:30 follow the whole of Russia Dean and so0:59:34 earth man's decision is religiously0:59:37 authoritative and add to that in fact he0:59:40 had the itch malbim as well0:59:42 he had the edge mother's including in0:59:44 the Mossad including all of these people0:59:46 who had varied cars not to say that0:59:48 their cars became invalid but it's to0:59:51 say that this was the standard reading0:59:53 that then transmitted it you could say0:59:58 for convenience purposes it wasn't the1:00:00 fact that even Mossad and Quran has now1:00:03 become null and void because it's what1:00:07 we can say that that I'm not a fan his1:00:11 standardization his damage to the OMA1:00:13 has agreed upon and we are sure that1:00:15 whatever that is this Quran we are sure1:00:18 yeah whereas the Senate could be1:00:21 distorted the chain could be distorted1:00:23 it's the Russian it's non-compliance1:00:26 which means that could be go back to1:00:28 some kind of it could be tough see it I1:00:30 mean even even just he says I read this1:00:33 in and in his flight was a mission that1:00:36 actually Massoud a lot of the stuff is1:00:38 very difficult to differentiate1:00:39 sometimes between what actually saying1:00:41 and reciting as Quran and ambassador and1:00:45 so to avoid all of that confusion of man1:00:48 a fan but I checked earlier King you1:00:51 made sure that anything that goes into1:00:52 this must have is gonna be that which is1:00:55 the most authoritative1:00:56 the most legitimate that everyone agrees1:00:59 goes back to the Ramallah1:01:00 not to say that all of the other1:01:03 companions were wrong to aside the way1:01:04 they did or to do the things they did1:01:06 that's true and at the end of the day1:01:09 what we as Muslims always have to1:01:11 remember is the non-muslims because they1:01:16 became they got exposed for their1:01:18 religion and their script becoming you1:01:20 know contradicting and not being1:01:22 preserved they now want to point fingers1:01:24 at other people1:01:25 say oh you guys know one is not1:01:27 preserved that's the truth1:01:29 and I hamdulillah the fact that the1:01:32 Muslims today see in Ramadan para we1:01:35 have been read by a 14 year old 15 year1:01:38 old 20 year old leaving Korea all over1:01:41 the world people reading from memory and1:01:43 this is I think enough to to show how1:01:46 this book has been preserved - living1:01:49 tradition is something which is1:01:51 something just packed up in books and1:01:53 and it's a very cliche when you say1:01:55 they're gonna throw all the books in the1:01:57 world how quickly will retrieve the1:01:59 Quran compared to other ones well if I1:02:04 would just to throw in a couple of who1:02:06 had now not - it's causing it down to1:02:09 people but just some of the most kind of1:02:12 Wired worriedly circulating things1:02:16 misconceptions that on this on this1:02:18 mission so we talked about just to1:02:19 summarize so far we talked about how1:02:21 it's impossible for the Prophet to have1:02:23 said something which is not from Allah1:02:25 and how the Companions is impossible for1:02:28 them to have said something which is not1:02:30 from the Prophet and everything all the1:02:32 variant readings go back to Prophet1:02:36 Muhammad a solemn and are legitimized by1:02:38 him I would the fact that everything1:02:42 therefore from a light goes back to a1:02:43 lost - idea I will said yeah we also1:02:46 said that the misconception that's meant1:02:49 to be a fixed text is one which has led1:02:51 to a lot of confusion and what racism1:02:53 all these are variants we know that1:02:55 there are variants for those variants1:02:56 playing through the act of the Saba that1:02:58 of seven mode whatever is types of1:03:01 reputation recitations which I mentioned1:03:03 with specific verses where you can1:03:05 recite this verse like this and I like1:03:06 that it's a concession a serial Omar1:03:09 something to ease and facilitate from1:03:10 all my sorrow sighs some kind of thing1:03:12 which helps some people the Muslim now1:03:14 there is a difference we said between1:03:16 the roof and the Quran we said that that1:03:18 roof ah the types of differences and the1:03:21 kurata1:03:21 so it's possible that you can have a1:03:25 thousand a million Cara it's not a1:03:27 problem because all is is a combination1:03:30 of choices made from the available pool1:03:35 of differences which were all adjustment1:03:36 math Ursula and mathematical you can1:03:38 so many of those problem the point is1:03:41 that all of those cars all of those1:03:43 recitations are so here how authentic1:03:45 and we will say matter which are mass1:03:49 transmitted in addition to being in line1:03:52 with the rasam of many the skeletal1:03:54 Continental structure of the earth many1:03:57 which there was each man on DOMA and1:04:00 also the fact so this is this is the1:04:03 narrative of putting food and this can't1:04:05 be compared we said with with1:04:06 Christianity when there's a fixed text1:04:08 and variants and there's not even a1:04:09 standard that there's no even1:04:10 transmission I mean how can they how1:04:12 could someone even compare that to you I1:04:13 don't think even what's the studies1:04:15 comparison I don't think anyone makes1:04:17 that comparison even in Western1:04:18 societies yeah even the third century in1:04:21 Islam are only been once an hour and I1:04:24 will read cosmic Salem and I were hard1:04:25 to miss attorney and a medieval debater1:04:28 goofy and oh god it's madness Huckle1:04:30 Maliki you know would jar for it1:04:32 material poverty and all it is until1:04:34 them and said in the fourth century1:04:35 scholars in Islam they Oh straight away1:04:38 Danny Harun was an hour he died 2001:04:42 before 200 so he documented other care1:04:46 are at more than seven red cosmic serum1:04:50 came after him with idat 224 Hadrian I1:04:52 mean he took directly from our1:04:54 even-handed Turkish Ally you see and he1:04:58 compiled all the Quran so it was it1:05:00 wasn't just memorized it was documented1:05:03 at a very early stage any different or1:05:05 ah their names who they took from it was1:05:07 documented and if you actually go to Le1:05:11 Monde and they're happy for example1:05:12 remember Debbie you know him1:05:14 a man with that we had 1000 teachers1:05:17 even remember judge that he mentions1:05:19 that 1000 in oral a man who taught him1:05:23 we took knowledge from the Quran and1:05:24 their science is he took from them and1:05:26 he learned from them so and he has the1:05:29 keto tautomer control Quran it talks1:05:31 about the different recite if you go to1:05:32 in a normal Jerry how many how many1:05:35 Messiah he has and he took from them you1:05:37 will see this issue is it's not one or1:05:39 two or three or peaceful I know brother1:05:41 right now he's got in 200 teachers they1:05:45 to the whole Antrim me it has that is1:05:47 now is alive so this issue of the press1:05:52 the Quran Allah subhana WA Ta'ala took1:05:55 it upon himself he is going to protect1:05:58 it from Chanukah Allah cannot these1:06:00 non-muslims and his orientalist and his1:06:02 Christian apologist and all of them1:06:03 cannot suffer at animal vu he aha1:06:06 hello me about how oh ha karna who are1:06:07 you if you're just gonna you're hanging1:06:09 you're hitting your head against the1:06:12 mountain don't be nice to the mountain1:06:15 you're just gonna hurt your head that's1:06:16 why this religion is going to stand you1:06:20 know these people you have to understand1:06:23 let alone feeling out of the weather1:06:25 idea on fee sauna national hosting or1:06:28 the well addict Rollo is a man they are1:06:30 not mentioned in the sama in good and in1:06:33 this world they have they have no1:06:35 authority honey we Muslims I sincerely1:06:38 say this to the Muslims who are1:06:39 listening we've become foreigners from1:06:42 our own religion and when we've become1:06:44 foreigners and we've taken a step back1:06:46 it leaves that vacuum for non-muslims to1:06:48 come and start to tell you about your1:06:50 religion I've told this story so many1:06:52 times but when I was studying in the UK1:06:54 I was studying at birtwick University I1:06:56 was studying linguistics I used to go to1:06:59 the British Library and I sometimes used1:07:01 to take from there man you see yeah some1:07:04 books and manuscripts slamming1:07:05 manuscripts over there I state from I1:07:07 was taken back when I went there one1:07:10 time and I met a non-muslim guy and he1:07:13 asked I came to the place and I was1:07:15 looking for some of the most all tattoo1:07:17 written by Suraj we didn't work any1:07:19 sardine ok let's get up come on new room1:07:21 I'm a Moroccan room and which is about1:07:26 Oromo quran but i was looking for some1:07:29 of some of his other works and other1:07:32 scholars I was looking at for their1:07:33 works i luckily had when I got there he1:07:36 corrected me he said to me it's not so1:07:38 loud you didn't pay me Radha is sahaja1:07:40 demon bull failing was the first time I1:07:42 ever heard it and in order Muslim you're1:07:46 English UK dude telling you that this is1:07:51 how it's pronounced and we had a back1:07:53 and forth discussion and I was really1:07:55 taken back that subhanAllah1:07:58 you know we've distance ourselves from1:08:00 learning the religion and also the Dean1:08:04 so what I say is that1:08:06 hematology the first thing that came1:08:08 down in Islam the first telling me that1:08:11 came down in Islam was it read it sweet1:08:15 and he go and read and a lot about Allah1:08:18 Allah1:08:19 he praised us his humans I'm a raised as1:08:22 humans based on that knowledge of1:08:24 knowing adam alayhis-salam was risen1:08:27 from all of the other creation for what1:08:29 reason and they prostrated to him for1:08:32 what reason well Anna aired MLS macula1:08:35 there Allah towards him Subhan Allah Ya1:08:38 Allah Allahu Lavina I mean come on1:08:40 Ladino to until my daughter gets a lot1:08:42 raises a person that when they learn and1:08:44 they study so well I I look at the a1:08:50 brother Xu hat of the non-muslims that1:08:53 would Islam I sit down I actually try to1:08:55 give them a chance ok when you have to1:08:57 say and when you look at it there should1:09:00 have oh honey bacon and commute now you1:09:03 some you know what are you gonna enjoy1:09:04 when you look at it and you really do in1:09:06 another and you observe it you don't1:09:09 find much to it but the only thing they1:09:11 have is the ability to articulate it1:09:13 properly which of previous articulation1:09:16 isn't this mission against the mountain1:09:18 yeah so it's nothing when you look at1:09:22 it's nothing substantial that's that's1:09:24 actually there there's an example I came1:09:27 across some Hannah like yeah I was1:09:29 having a discussion with one of the1:09:30 non-muslims about the or on being going1:09:34 against the Arabic language the fact1:09:36 that it goes against Arabic language and1:09:38 he brought the ayah for me carotid hums1:09:40 it moves a yet I'm over here Eddie I1:09:44 become enough see where he de Oaxaca1:09:47 mean haha well best I mean who Mary1:09:49 yellan Katina when he said what a lady I1:09:52 wanna be he well Aloha is what we read1:09:55 it like in hamza here is it as well or1:09:58 her me as a customer right and these are1:10:01 miss eligible American is elfia he talks1:10:03 about it were all too confident and1:10:04 Amelia coffee less similar ELISA and1:10:06 Eliza much better1:10:09 it not only one left Lisa must Ellen1:10:12 know very well in grammar which I don't1:10:15 wanna go in I'm gonna explain I shall1:10:16 retire in my course honey1:10:18 what1:10:19 takes me back is that they would even1:10:21 study a mess error in grammar just to1:10:25 prove the Quran being wrong and but not1:10:27 really understanding in deep and have a1:10:29 very good understanding you know why1:10:31 they don't have it because they don't1:10:32 have a you know when you're studying1:10:34 grandma you don't just rip a page out of1:10:35 a book and say this is them you have to1:10:38 read it from beginning to end and1:10:39 understand how one of those science is1:10:42 where you have to have a very deep1:10:44 understanding from a local I'm will1:10:47 often wore a cabin filled with water of1:10:48 some with the rest it's more generally1:10:50 managed from that beginning to the last1:10:53 miss Ella is so connected it's building1:10:55 apology on each other so I am Delina1:11:00 Islam in sha Allah Allah1:11:02 it's Scripture the Quran and the Sunnah1:11:05 the Sun has been protected by its people1:11:07 the Sunnah to Nibiru him turning away he1:11:10 mechanical Wahine in America Riku Hari1:11:13 Raya first acara lady Raya cehotina Maru1:11:16 you are rasoi leader aluminum are due to1:11:18 mimic buoy Nacional in the tamahagane1:11:20 fittin well M see if can habit in every1:11:22 student in the radical EEMA the Hitmen1:11:25 tavini one ostrich uma from a Azusa hija1:11:28 Harman Mustafa Muhammad Allah Brian1:11:32 Burke when they told him that there's a1:11:34 hadith which are mobile they said to1:11:37 Alan Burdick1:11:37 there's fabricated a hadith and then he1:11:39 said yeah really shoulda held jihad on1:11:41 the jet scholars are gonna live for that1:11:43 you have Billa1:11:44 the big beasts like a drama with Maddie1:11:47 and Hamady be humble and it's happy1:11:50 Rahu you abou hottie Molossia a boozer a1:11:52 taraji an animal Buhari they they're1:11:55 gonna live with ritual hell jacobina the1:11:58 other day I was reading the life of1:11:59 Abdullah of Mubarak and I came across a1:12:02 line Barack saying Lola I'm certain if1:12:06 it wasn't for five men rhetoric to tiara1:12:08 I would have left and working and doing1:12:11 mighty Jarrah and my training of my1:12:13 business five men for their sake as I'm1:12:16 working I want to provide for these five1:12:18 men who are they1:12:20 Sofia named an associate authorities of1:12:23 Yerevan arena I work for them he pleased1:12:26 to pay for them and it will layer and it1:12:30 will submerge1:12:31 I keep forgetting who the fifth one is1:12:33 Annie these five I work for them or else1:12:37 I would have left my job why does he1:12:38 work for them he doesn't want them to1:12:40 take no money from no government they're1:12:42 free men they they sit in their house1:12:45 they they work for them they get their1:12:47 risk they don't worry about that and1:12:48 they're able to defend a religion which1:12:51 gives us the great incentives to do the1:12:53 same thing with one of these brothers1:12:55 and great causes that are doing all that1:12:57 work and so yes to be honest but the1:13:04 point is that he just wanted the related1:13:07 to be defended by those great scholars1:13:08 and and he shall Torana one thing I took1:13:11 from Cheryl santini statement really1:13:13 touched me he said in our other law in1:13:15 hora de a common may you are you do for1:13:18 your Haeckel hakka became a key to my1:13:20 accord of a bill hakka all about that if1:13:21 I had modified Ahuja's I shall Allah1:13:27 make his religion Stanton Omar developer1:13:29 to other wants this religion to prevail1:13:31 he actually sometimes does it in a way1:13:33 where he brings somebody who speaks1:13:34 against the religion you see wrong1:13:36 things about the religion and then1:13:38 through ducks Allah makes a person stand1:13:40 up and we feed him and debunk his1:13:42 argument and that's beautiful and I1:13:45 think it's a beautiful place to stop1:13:47 this this podcast but I tell you1:13:49 something it's for those who are really1:13:51 sincere and we've heard you present all1:13:54 of those evidences and break it down1:13:58 there's nothing to hide nothing in a1:14:00 scholarly works that we're trying to1:14:02 keep hidden away there's nothing that1:14:05 there's no great secret anywhere1:14:08 and everyone's works are available1:14:10 everything is more time nowadays nothing1:14:11 can be hidden and the truth is also what1:14:14 I the truth is also available and this1:14:17 is something we call non-muslims that1:14:19 are listening to this to the truth of1:14:21 Islam the hack of Islam which is to1:14:23 believe in Leila had Allah Muhammad1:14:25 Allah soon the Quran the final message1:14:27 to him a message to mankind to believe1:14:29 that this is the unaltered speech the1:14:32 wine verbatim speech of Allah1:14:34 subhanAllah Anna which has been1:14:35 preserved by the - in a way that no book1:14:38 in the medieval period or a book in1:14:39 antiquity a notebook and ancient history1:14:41 has ever been preserved you know1:14:44 the book is continually moving now it's1:14:47 it's an armistice in our hearts it's in1:14:50 our tongues as you said in our prayers1:14:53 quite literally in our prayers1:14:55 so it's you know I was funny I just like1:15:01 go back to your articulation trying to1:15:03 attack this it's like smashing your head1:15:05 against a mountain that's true you know1:15:08 what happened I was reading in the ayah1:15:10 in surah surah to mérida where losses1:15:13 what's adequate article 2 fact or idea1:15:15 my desert be Mahadevan Academy namah1:15:16 well no as usual Hakim the American1:15:19 right he said I recited this ayah when I1:15:22 recited the ayah he said I recited it as1:15:25 at the ending of the Iowa over for him1:15:28 and a Bedouin man said repeat that again1:15:34 and I repeated it and he said Koran1:15:37 woman who speeches this and then he said1:15:39 it's the speech of Allah and the medical1:15:41 new arrival is a loss Mary the great1:15:43 Imam load away then he said to him whose1:15:47 speech is this and he said it's Allah he1:15:49 said well I this is not speech of Allah1:15:50 the Bedouin man said I've been medica1:15:54 before I lost my a straightaway1:15:56 understood that he did something wrong1:15:57 he recited the ayah as well as his own1:15:59 Hakim then he said that's correct then I1:16:03 lost my research in a man do you finish1:16:05 the Quran are you know the Quran the1:16:09 Bedouin man said no no I don't know the1:16:10 plan he said how do you know that it1:16:12 wasn't well now before Rahim and then he1:16:15 said the siak and the context doesn't1:16:17 allow that granny why I mean is that if1:16:23 the prophet sallallaahu ceramic aim with1:16:25 the Quran and it was something that1:16:28 didn't make sense to the Arabs at that1:16:31 time they would have demolished a1:16:32 prophet sallallaahu said they would have1:16:33 insulted him they would have ridiculed1:16:35 him but they realized what he came with1:16:38 his new urges and after the prophets1:16:40 Allah mala ali wa sallam had died1:16:42 because they couldn't respond to it the1:16:44 poet he said yeah and maybe you know1:16:45 Bill I acted on Solomon which it can be1:16:47 Hakeem in Roman sorry me I had to Kalama1:16:49 Almeida I do that you begin wounded1:16:51 America to endure the prophets before1:16:54 the miracles they came with a died with1:16:56 them and Moses Morocco died with him1:16:58 the other prophets their miracles died1:17:00 with them Risa's Miroku went with him1:17:02 because it was not dead it went with him1:17:04 but never like Muhammad's the only1:17:06 prophet who is miracle is still standing1:17:09 it's still amongst us we're looking at1:17:11 it we're challenging people not on an1:17:13 absent miracle like we're saying the1:17:17 miracle is not here challenging if you1:17:18 can so it's kind of for every shout out1:17:22 I'll be preserved Allah is going to1:17:24 preserve this religion1:17:26 one last question I think we should go1:17:29 back to the variants in leather you've1:17:30 mentioned that reminded me of something1:17:32 now before I end with you as a question1:17:34 someone else okay so you've got all1:17:36 these variants you've got the seven of1:17:38 which are the ways in which the1:17:41 multiform ways that we can explain the1:17:44 variants it's not fixed text we1:17:46 understand that now but how can we1:17:48 assure this is the question how can we1:17:51 assure that their variants were not the1:17:53 product of the Sahaba themselves how can1:17:56 we assure this all of the para all the1:18:00 ruin or anybody who has dealt with the1:18:03 firaon right how can you be sure that in1:18:06 fact that those variants are not as a1:18:08 result because the sheer number of them1:18:10 they would argue even though frankly1:18:13 it's not that as many they make out to1:18:15 be how can you assure that those1:18:17 variants are in fact not from from the1:18:23 Sahara or from the what this thing1:18:29 that's the this is where the issue goes1:18:32 back to the concept of coatl the water1:18:34 means the halo so automatically the1:18:39 definition of tatl means these people1:18:41 cannot agree on this is too large in1:18:43 number and we're saying the processor1:18:45 has 120,000 companions Janna yes the1:18:48 field of 1200 that make all agree that1:18:51 this is because there's a bigger one who1:18:53 comes once to the cross cinema and then1:18:55 he goes he never comes back again when1:18:58 they all agreed upon it was the Bedouins1:19:00 there as well and when he comes back and1:19:01 he supposed to find a question just1:19:03 supposed to find a question I think what1:19:04 they would say is that or actually once1:19:06 again pretty women push back you know is1:19:09 that it was do something I look at him1:19:11 at best they don't collage and how did1:19:15 you know that that pillar I wasn't1:19:16 something which they both of edom1:19:26 generally speaking you won't find it1:19:28 there are or I come across a tiara was1:19:31 only gonna be a blemish with at all it's1:19:33 gonna be other peoples that are but1:19:34 these are the only people are gonna be1:19:36 mentioned there's a difference between1:19:38 who's mentioned and who stated because1:19:41 right now1:19:42 Abraham and Nahor it was against the1:19:44 concept of saying Cara are too full and1:19:46 he hated that because this problem came1:19:49 from people saying the Quran is not1:19:51 motivated because they say I'm gonna be1:19:53 no dude he's one person1:19:54 this is the problem the paralyzed1:19:56 attribution to one person doesn't mean1:19:58 only one person ready like this yes I1:20:01 cannot Betty daddy very good and and1:20:04 secondarily so I would say here that's1:20:06 number one number two is what I was1:20:09 thinking about this interrogation I was1:20:11 thinking about quite deeply and some1:20:12 what you think of it you've got the head1:20:14 of Russian let's take as an example the1:20:16 ten Walter White's have come out that1:20:18 everyone is agreed upon normally yeah1:20:23 except for some of the so-called those1:20:30 corrupts the lion's share like the vast1:20:34 majority of meetings are exactly the1:20:37 same so if you read cannot have some1:20:42 awesome versus what some method just to1:20:44 give to popular examples yeah then all1:20:47 the storylines will be the same there'll1:20:48 be no translational sense difference in1:20:51 translation for 98% of the of the1:20:54 content maybe 99% in fact where there is1:20:57 a difference in translation will be in1:21:00 things which are very similar like blue1:21:02 and dark blue I don't know things which1:21:05 are very very similar December to Taba1:21:07 Yahoo oh there's a point is very1:21:12 important to understand I'm not about1:21:14 with a laser variety the balloon are1:21:15 Quran awoken I mean in derailer you know1:21:18 whether to feel in a fantasy era he1:21:20 laughs here means this ski rocks two1:21:23 times you're very well aware1:21:25 if they laugh telework a nifty refer1:21:27 come on if the a laugh the differences1:21:30 can be brought together that's not the1:21:31 discussion here1:21:32 we've never cleaned that we've claimed1:21:35 there's no contradiction you guys have1:21:38 to prove to us that the Quran1:21:39 contradicts itself if there's a manner1:21:41 here and there's a man is the idea in1:21:43 the other kurata Wesley hmm1:21:45 what shall I try again inshallah in mind1:21:48 mr. Murray of course I'm going to expand1:21:50 on some of the where it is mentioned in1:21:54 the Quran like for example taratata1:21:55 Helen her aunt in Thailand huh there's a1:21:59 Giada yeah this Giada one of the1:22:03 benefits in it is that I get 20 reward1:22:05 by reading the Quran Arthur says Mita1:22:08 Ilana by the mimin the noon and the1:22:11 Quran that doesn't have it has less1:22:12 because of the famous hadith there are1:22:15 good Alif Lam Meem - when I can elephant1:22:17 heart phone when I'm gonna have some1:22:18 women heart phone so totally tan and her1:22:21 whoever reads it and the one who reads1:22:23 it as Jerry me tacky Alana the one who1:22:26 reads it as mintage Alana is got 201:22:28 extra more than you do one of the1:22:30 benefits that you get from the Korat and1:22:32 I thought about so just to happiness as1:22:35 a means of as a means of the demolishing1:22:39 this idea in fact yeah is if you find if1:22:42 you look at some of the construction1:22:43 some of the lexical constructions like1:22:45 for example Malik and Malik we said that1:22:47 you can recite Medicare medic so in fact1:22:49 I like this Malik is king1:22:51 sorry medic is on a manic is king right1:22:53 while insulting Ernest is smelling1:22:56 there's no different Quran if the Sahaba1:22:59 were playing around as they wished and1:23:00 they should have made that medical1:23:02 miracles all right it's not just even1:23:03 that if there are of Hisham and Hisham1:23:06 when he recites Abraham and Ibrahim yes1:23:10 the word Brahim in the come 99 times1:23:13 yeah okay the largest times Vedas1:23:17 Ibrahim feel anything and there's some1:23:19 other religious Ibrahim why idea of I'm1:23:27 gonna read it as I want even though I1:23:31 was told1:23:32 Akira of economy the Michel1:23:36 if Muhammad was given1:23:38 Karara and then he said I'm not gonna1:23:41 read it like that and then they said him1:23:43 but if somebody came to you and told you1:23:45 I heard it from the Prophet he said I1:23:46 would never take it from them he said1:23:48 because at AHIMA we're free1:23:50 I suspect one person but that Kira I was1:23:53 actually motivated for someone other1:23:55 email but to implore a marine because it1:23:58 wasn't muta what he never reached him in1:23:59 motivated he rejected it especially we1:24:03 were talking about the concept of truce1:24:04 in karate1:24:04 this must Allah I really have prepared1:24:07 for it1:24:08 I have a long mashallah written research1:24:11 on different scales and maybe ninety1:24:17 like a team is gonna research in general1:24:24 yeah when we come here inshallah this1:24:28 week we got a release of the video1:24:29 inshallah this week we're gonna release1:24:30 it you know where you reset your1:24:31 research isn't writing the right I've1:24:35 actually it's nearly nearly 600 pages so1:24:38 inshallah to Allah1:24:39 some of you I have left in in UK I don't1:24:41 have all of it and some I have it here1:24:43 that I've added on to it so inshallah1:24:45 once it's finished and I've got it all1:24:47 written every time you find something1:24:49 new to be honest every day you'll find1:24:51 something new that you didn't see so I'm1:24:55 just trying to add on to that someday I1:24:59 shall do I be like taffy or Maha Badu1:25:01 didn't either who has Fela shelter1:25:03 myself so I'm just gonna hope from Allah1:25:06 subhana WA Ta'ala that he aids me with1:25:07 it and he allows me to be able to fully1:25:11 do it in sha la donna again like1:25:15 allocated for evening opportunity - sha1:25:19 la ila humbly proved the Quran is1:25:21 preservation and how it's that every1:25:24 Muslim around the world has to be1:25:27 inshallah to Allah happy and content1:25:30 that their religion is being preserved1:25:33 it's a great imam al Rahman island you1:25:35 know the great amount of Hardy he was he1:25:38 said about the previous image that came1:25:39 before him he said rocky Mahalo ma'am1:25:45 and he said latter he said ma'am he said1:25:49 manejando FEMEN mother in1:25:51 but clean fuel in R&D one man a new1:25:54 female mother1:25:55 what are we compared to those great1:25:57 Imams that came before us like a1:25:59 mushroom is like under a tree under a1:26:03 tree yeah I mean when you look at him um1:26:06 I'm I'm right Danny you look at shout1:26:09 baby I was did you actually know I would1:26:11 cost him a shot to me the size of a1:26:13 manual to tanni it was actually said1:26:16 cannibal abuse our own Andrew Scott1:26:18 el-bahari I mean Heavy D he he was blind1:26:21 you know that because he was blind1:26:23 the students will come and they read1:26:25 sahih bukhari and he's blind he sits1:26:27 there and they correct their copies from1:26:30 his memory1:26:31 Danny they read on him and he said1:26:33 that's copies wrong corrected are you1:26:36 there1:26:36 and so what I mean is that when you look1:26:39 at these amounts the way they were the1:26:41 way their life is and you look at these1:26:45 Orientalists and what type of people1:26:49 they are money it's not even fair it's1:26:51 not fair in any way shape or form1:26:54 to even mention I will cost him a shout1:26:57 to me you in the context of you name any1:27:01 Orientalist why I say is that the karate1:27:12 is a science that comes from the knowing1:27:14 the Arabic language and it Kadiatu ish1:27:16 man for example Kadir to each man of the1:27:19 Quran if numeric when he speaks about it1:27:21 he and he says walk through I wish1:27:23 Memphis he says works or I wish I wish I1:27:26 wish MIM1:27:27 fair as to Latino relearn I mean and1:27:30 well done moon Jack a more alpha to me1:27:32 in a narrow the issue of ish man and the1:27:38 way that is read it's not something1:27:40 that's known in Naju it's taken from1:27:41 where it's taken from karate like they1:27:43 they complement one another1:27:44 so these oriental ease are not masters1:27:48 in the Arabic language they are not less1:27:51 to be an original lucu listener who1:27:53 where I can easily peel okuru for abou1:27:56 they are foreigners from the Arabic1:27:58 language we Muslims have to have thicker1:28:01 in our amounts like Ebru malik when hero1:28:03 is l fear1:28:05 even though he believes he's al feels1:28:07 the best he's a column muhammadun who1:28:08 abnormally qiyamah Dorabella Hiram1:28:10 Maliki most ugly and our enemy in most1:28:12 of our early in was tuck Molina sharafa1:28:14 why stir in Allah feel fear Mikasa1:28:16 dinner will be on Maria to carry will1:28:18 AXA beloved in New Jersey what I was1:28:20 told better be ready man Jesse1:28:22 what acted on be ready shortly at n L1:28:25 theater tomorrow t wahoo1:28:27 we supped inhabitant of Lyra was told1:28:29 you internet l Jamila my key tab is1:28:31 better than the L fear of abnormality1:28:33 he's saying that but even what is better1:28:37 better than me because he came before me1:28:38 I'm taking from him I honor him because1:28:43 if he's a self to me and I miss her1:28:45 shoes the love he has for his scholars1:28:49 that Canadian a gentleman by being a1:28:50 coruña rabbinical era when I mean and1:28:53 Adina Saba could have been a man shelter1:28:56 business since remarried judge Allah who1:28:58 built hierarchy and imagine Lenin a1:29:00 cologne or Anna as Ben Massell Sarah may1:29:02 Allah reward the great scholars who1:29:04 transmitted ease or unfroze for us so1:29:06 it's not a time where we doubt our1:29:09 events and we question them and we put1:29:14 them down over Oahu and non-muslim an1:29:16 Orientalist who doesn't know much about1:29:18 the religion and even if we gave him the1:29:21 chance to hear him out doesn't have much1:29:25 to be found alone their works and all of1:29:28 them are very I mean none of them are1:29:30 the same very some of them like a firm1:29:37 the the research should correct1:29:39 themselves1:29:39 I mean mentioning names now1:29:43 nikolai sinai he done a great job in1:29:44 dispelling the myths of fool Casanova1:29:47 became before him he said that the Quran1:29:49 came in the eighth century and he said1:29:51 no this is not correct in a thematic1:29:53 recession seventh centuries actually or1:29:55 the Islamic narrative is correct they1:29:57 and he corrected the other orientalist1:30:00 because of sonar manuscripts and the1:30:02 palimpsest and all these things and my1:30:04 father radio cover accuracy and all that1:30:06 stuff so to be fair it's kind of like1:30:09 okay a lot more incidents 100 years ago1:30:11 you said X and now you're saying why1:30:14 you've come to the Islamic narrative1:30:16 after a hundred years of toil1:30:18 we've only been saying this for a1:30:19 thousand four hundred years and the1:30:21 thing is because to be honest with the1:30:23 other side like I'll be honest Quranic1:30:26 studies in the West is not a massive1:30:28 field1:30:28 there's not like thousands of people1:30:30 involved they're probably the big names1:30:32 that's not just the in in the it's not1:30:36 just in the West's like if you look at1:30:38 an anon Sarkozy in his kitab boron when1:30:43 he spoke about for example to Syria he1:30:45 said it's in moon let me on Goodwin I'm1:30:48 your hot Eric it's like a science that1:30:51 hasn't been nurtured and it hasn't even1:30:52 reap you haven't been read yet1:30:53 so even if you look at the early1:30:55 scholars they kind of alleged that lumen1:30:57 Quran is a side that hasn't been fully1:31:00 given like a lot have to say is that1:31:07 maybe because now the thing we have to1:31:09 do with in academia is the new1:31:12 manuscripts and radiocarbon dating1:31:15 things which did not existed on set up1:31:17 we still have to combat it within the1:31:19 sphere we have to refute them but no we1:31:32 have to refute them and of course could1:31:33 have to hide a comb is for everybody1:31:35 anyone who'd had to go to Saudi Muslim1:31:39 being evidence is forward but example I1:31:42 was trying to study the kita I feel at1:31:43 Treblinka site by Ali men shot together1:31:47 home a lot and I struggle to fight1:31:51 anyone who can actually go through with1:31:53 me this cab and explain to me this key1:31:56 table indeed and it was table is an1:31:59 awesome oh sorry yeah I mean I struggled1:32:01 to find it and it's not even a it's not1:32:03 even a big like book is just small 2001:32:06 something lines of poetry it's rare to1:32:09 find today if you look at the people the1:32:11 scholars who are grounded in normal1:32:13 Quran and have understanding of it1:32:15 that's why the Orientalist are going1:32:18 direction they find it as a place where1:32:21 they could1:32:29 so what kind of open real specialist1:32:36 especially in that let's be frank in the1:32:38 Western down not any one who can say oh1:32:40 this is the guy we can't we don't1:32:42 actually have this is the have to say in1:32:46 accordance to our knowledge with1:32:47 everybody in the West so we say1:32:49 according to our knowledge yeah I mean1:32:51 we don't see a lot of people are at the1:32:53 forefront when it comes to normal so1:33:02 unless I must leaving us a little bit1:33:04 open so we have to be open about that1:33:05 and say you know your is true and the1:33:07 Orientalists we can't wait for number1:33:09 ten years before they get strong enough1:33:11 to be able to to deal with us1:33:13 some knowledge which reduces the more1:33:16 that they don't start saying more things1:33:19 issue when in Charlotte either as I said1:33:21 at the land buttocks said sorry so your1:33:22 ritual diameter we always think higher1:33:25 of this on man they're always going to1:33:26 be people who are going to stand up for1:33:29 the deal and that's gonna revive the1:33:32 religion for the people there's always1:33:33 going to be people in Charlotte that's1:33:35 mean sure you always welcome to come and1:33:40 I think many people would have really1:33:42 benefited from this exposition and again1:33:47 for having me there's a lot of things1:33:49 that I felt I wanted to speak about but1:33:52 I left it because of it not been the1:33:56 most sensible place to speak about it1:33:58 it's not my place I am going to go1:34:01 through it all in great details the1:34:03 Annabelle room being details1:34:05 inshallah era for any student of1:34:07 knowledge whether even if they have a1:34:09 ulterior motive they have you know their1:34:12 belief and they don't wanna if you're1:34:13 looking for something to to use even1:34:16 watch it I will present you the1:34:18 arguments for us inshallah I like the1:34:24 YouTube in Charlotte Anna is the1:34:25 madrasah to Maria1:34:26 YouTube channel in Charlotte it's gonna1:34:29 be there it's free you don't have to pay1:34:31 a penny in Charlotte Anna1:34:33 no shadow la la la la I started oka what1:34:39 a two-wheeler