Session 2 (2021-01-21) ​

0:00:00 Music
0:00:09 Applause
0:00:09 Music
0:00:14 i
0:00:26 oh sorry yes so uh the remaining
0:00:28 questions from last week
0:00:29 were uh so the first one is how was the
0:00:32 quran revealed
0:00:33 from allah to the prophet of solemn did
0:00:35 allah reveal the quran as a book
0:00:37 to angel jibril
0:00:42 we don't know how in details but uh it's
0:00:45 uh
0:00:46 i already said that the quran is is
0:00:48 primarily a written book
0:00:50 and when the order came acro the process
0:00:54 was shown
0:00:55 a parchment or shown a a sheet of
0:00:59 clothing or whatever it is and then
0:01:01 jubilee read
0:01:03 say i'm not a reader i can't read i'm
0:01:05 illiterate
0:01:06 so it is primarily written and then
0:01:09 reciting is secondary although it's also
0:01:11 resident
0:01:12 but this is called we discussed that
0:01:14 last time now how these uh
0:01:16 how all these supernatural events are
0:01:20 happening
0:01:21 uh is that something happening inside
0:01:22 the brain what's coming from outside
0:01:25 all of this is uh going into into things
0:01:27 which are really metaphysical and
0:01:29 do not uh do not really bring us much
0:01:32 more further
0:01:33 but we have a hadith about how the
0:01:35 person received revelation
0:01:37 and he described various types of
0:01:38 relationships and sometimes
0:01:40 it comes to him like in a ringing of a
0:01:43 bell
0:01:44 and uh and then when when it
0:01:48 when it is over then he understands what
0:01:50 would memorize what has been given to
0:01:52 him and sometimes the angel appears like
0:01:53 a man in front of him
0:01:55 and show him and speak to him on various
0:01:58 forms
0:01:58 and the most the most the most difficult
0:02:01 and harshest is that it comes like a
0:02:03 bell
0:02:03 and he becomes very heavy sweating and
0:02:05 so on and we have also
0:02:07 a narration that even the camel when he
0:02:09 was in the camel the camel
0:02:11 is goes down and goes down in in
0:02:14 its in its knees so there's something
0:02:17 very heavy
0:02:18 physically very heavy for the camel to
0:02:20 carry so it goes down and we know a
0:02:21 camel
0:02:22 can carry up to a half ton or a ton so
0:02:24 it must be something heavier than that
0:02:27 so this is the these but these things
0:02:29 are related how it is coming it shows
0:02:31 it shows the surrounding people that
0:02:33 it's not from muhammad's
0:02:34 being because whatever muhammad's power
0:02:36 may be he cannot
0:02:38 really even if he squeezes the camel he
0:02:40 cannot force the government to sit down
0:02:41 this way and also one time he received
0:02:44 revelation and zed will have it
0:02:46 his part of his leg was on his head
0:02:48 without
0:02:49 leg and then that leg became almost
0:02:52 broke
0:02:53 on the heavy weight of the leg of the
0:02:54 process so it comes also physically
0:02:56 heavy
0:02:57 but all these metaphysical or
0:03:00 supernatural things you cannot describe
0:03:01 but
0:03:02 but the essential point is that it comes
0:03:05 in
0:03:06 it's written it's essentially a written
0:03:08 form
0:03:10 so it is it's a written document in the
0:03:12 first place and there's no quran says
0:03:14 that in various places
0:03:15 there's accra first calibration
0:03:31 these are foreign sheets or provides
0:03:34 scrolls
0:03:35 so it is primarily written and that's
0:03:37 the reason it's very important to
0:03:39 check the writing which has been uh
0:03:42 given by the sahabah
0:03:44 now someone say the person was
0:03:45 illiterate how could he
0:03:47 control it's not necessary allah is
0:03:49 controlling it by by whatever meaning he
0:03:51 was
0:03:51 but we there's considerable evidence
0:03:54 that he
0:03:55 became slightly literate in the sense
0:03:57 that he can recognize
0:03:58 the shapes let us say don't write this
0:04:00 one remove this little put this little
0:04:02 in the in that sense he became literate
0:04:05 but whatever
0:04:06 technicality is that what has been
0:04:07 written by the sahabah is clearly
0:04:11 we will come today also discuss few
0:04:13 things of that it's clearly not the
0:04:15 usual
0:04:16 spelling which we have now ordered or
0:04:18 even the usual spelling they have at
0:04:19 that time
0:04:20 so it is deliberate in some places
0:04:23 for example let me give examples of uh
0:04:25 these
0:04:27 the i have a file here actually open
0:04:37 not this one this other one
0:04:47 which one it is so i can mention some
0:04:51 examples there
0:05:10 where is that file i have to have two
0:05:12 files open i think it's this one
0:05:15 but miraculous nature of the quran yet
0:05:17 must be this one
0:05:21 which shows that the writing is done
0:05:22 deliberately this way
0:05:34 not this one
0:05:45 it says is given is is revealed
0:05:49 it's not according to the standard arab
0:05:52 roots
0:05:54 for example one example is that
0:05:56 bismillah the first
0:05:57 the first word in the quran with the
0:05:59 first ayah
0:06:01 is written in the fatiha
0:06:04 meme
0:06:19 is written bismuth without alif but in
0:06:22 the inside the quran says for example in
0:06:24 this world
0:06:27 with the alif and the original muslim
0:06:30 so clearly this is deliberately made for
0:06:33 whatever reason
0:06:34 we have to find out and extract
0:06:39 another methyl example is for example
0:06:44 we will nasha is written known shin
0:06:52 we have to figure out why it is this odd
0:06:54 place
0:06:55 and it's written in an odd way
0:06:58 hamza on a wall and alif
0:07:07 but why is it in this way it cannot be
0:07:09 even if you someone say describe an
0:07:11 error cannot describe it
0:07:13 no no idiot will make such an error like
0:07:15 that
0:07:16 it's out of question so it is
0:07:17 deliberately written this way it's not
0:07:19 good
0:07:19 why we have to assert that that's part
0:07:21 of the miraculous nation of the quran to
0:07:24 ascertain these these oddities
0:07:26 for example so he saw in the past
0:07:30 and all the quranic citizen one in mode
0:07:32 in two places the written
0:07:34 uh not the usual writing of the uh
0:07:37 usual spelling is written all the quran
0:07:39 with
0:07:40 hamza on the line and alif raha
0:07:45 which is not the standard the standard
0:07:47 is in all the two places
0:07:48 which is written for the hamster on top
0:07:51 of it
0:07:54 so it seems to be we can't conclude
0:07:59 it cannot be some people say this is
0:08:00 criminal variations error
0:08:02 it can't be like that the scribes
0:08:04 whatever they have been
0:08:06 uh their level of
0:08:09 scriptural capabilities they could not
0:08:11 be
0:08:12 that that's stupid to make such message
0:08:15 evident mistakes
0:08:16 it must be deliberate for certain
0:08:18 reasons which we have to assert them
0:08:20 maybe it leads to the the
0:08:23 miraculous nation of the quran it made
0:08:25 it to the number of
0:08:26 counts of number of letters which we'll
0:08:28 discuss today a little bit more
0:08:30 another example is in the usual arabic
0:08:33 language
0:08:41 so it will be two lamps there visible
0:08:43 for writing
0:08:44 through throughout all the quran allah
0:08:46 is written with only one lamb
0:08:48 so the lamb of tariff is gone
0:08:52 marriage together in the movie obviously
0:08:54 in the muslim when they
0:08:55 uh the modern mosque i have a later
0:08:57 muslim and they do
0:08:59 they write which is indicated as a
0:09:02 double l there
0:09:03 in the pronunciation but if you remove
0:09:06 all pronunciation
0:09:10 then it is written with
0:09:13 all all over uh so
0:09:16 instead of the the correct one the
0:09:19 normal standard correct one is a layer
0:09:21 with two lamps
0:09:22 there with two lamps like it's written
0:09:23 usually in in
0:09:25 everywhere in in the literature and
0:09:27 every in every
0:09:28 uh other documents so what's it what's
0:09:31 the reason for that
0:09:32 some people have argued for certain deep
0:09:34 philosophical reasons
0:09:35 and things like that but it's clearly
0:09:37 written like that consistently
0:09:38 all the quran while the word correct
0:09:43 as we write in usual another point who
0:09:46 interests also that
0:09:48 the divine
0:09:55 and that writings all consist in all the
0:09:57 quran both in the basmal in the body of
0:09:59 the quran
0:10:01 and also it has
0:10:04 that is even the normal writing when
0:10:06 people write their names and people
0:10:08 write to each other they write
0:10:09 without alif which should be there
0:10:11 according to the pronunciation
0:10:12 so that has been so
0:10:16 so consistent in throughout the
0:10:18 conscious of the people that's even the
0:10:20 normal writing
0:10:21 is deviating from what what the
0:10:23 pronunciation should be
0:10:24 and writing a rahman without alif
0:10:26 sometimes you find rarely in newspapers
0:10:28 and so on
0:10:29 with alif but this is like normally a
0:10:32 deviation normally it's written even in
0:10:34 newspapers
0:10:35 even in other books it has become so the
0:10:38 quran has
0:10:39 overcome this point to the level that
0:10:42 and someone could say that bismillah
0:10:51 19 when we discussed a little ninety
0:10:53 today but
0:10:54 so that's so the special point we should
0:10:57 hold it that quran is essentially
0:10:58 written document
0:11:00 it is in the low helmet for the quran
0:11:03 protected tablet or tear
0:11:07 or or scroll or something in a protected
0:11:10 tablet
0:11:11 let's be metaphorically metaphorical for
0:11:13 the divine knowledge
0:11:14 but in the middle of that it is hinted
0:11:16 as being
0:11:17 a written document praying
0:11:20 so the writing must be talking so all
0:11:23 these issues are worth the writing is it
0:11:25 versus
0:11:30 must be settled for philosophically
0:11:32 metaphysically on this point
0:11:34 now there will be a variation between
0:11:35 them because this is the one who are
0:11:37 writing them
0:11:38 are human beings there will be some may
0:11:40 be some mistakes maybe
0:11:41 some errors like that we have to assert
0:11:44 in that by comparing the various was i
0:11:46 have
0:11:46 and going to certain principles general
0:11:49 principles
0:11:50 of of like for example we discussed that
0:11:53 from the existing messiah in hand of the
0:11:56 people for
0:11:57 now over a thousand years in in various
0:11:59 areas of the muslim world
0:12:01 we have it most of them are doing
0:12:02 tashkeel and doing uh doing a script
0:12:05 according to one of the the three
0:12:08 readings the reading of medina
0:12:10 with two channels of readings that
0:12:12 kallun mostly in libya and chad et
0:12:14 cetera and maybe part of tunisia
0:12:17 and wash this in the far west and the
0:12:19 rest of africa
0:12:21 these are the two channels of the modern
0:12:22 reading then we have
0:12:24 interestingly uh dory from abhiyama this
0:12:26 is a bustling reading
0:12:28 is the one of the narrator one of the
0:12:29 channels
0:12:31 that's the one and the muslims are
0:12:33 written according to that
0:12:35 in in sudan essentially
0:12:38 and maybe a little bit south of that and
0:12:40 by some part in in east africa
0:12:42 and then we have most of the muslim
0:12:44 world amazingly the minor the actually
0:12:47 the weaker reading
0:12:48 of house which everyone knows and the
0:12:50 most half of the people
0:12:51 they they talk about that must have is
0:12:53 as as
0:12:54 maybe this and we said we are good
0:12:56 that's maybe by divine design
0:12:58 to obscure these issues
0:13:01 until the time riot comes right to
0:13:04 analyze it
0:13:05 and only way to analyze it really
0:13:07 consistently and probably
0:13:08 when the time of computers comes because
0:13:11 no way
0:13:12 people can do that counting the letters
0:13:13 and so on in a proper way and comparing
0:13:15 how many letters of
0:13:16 certain type are there unless we have a
0:13:18 computerized power
0:13:20 so it was left for this time and we
0:13:22 argued last time that
0:13:24 because the consistency in in in the
0:13:27 basement for
0:13:28 these the reading of the medina and the
0:13:30 reading of the pastry
0:13:32 and the consistency of the two most i
0:13:33 have the cosicity of the number of the
0:13:35 ayah
0:13:36 and the most important point is that the
0:13:37 basmala is everywhere including
0:13:39 in fatiha is the ayah number zero not
0:13:41 counted in the solar
0:13:42 directly it's like a semi-deny uh
0:13:45 while the fact has still seven everyone
0:13:47 accounts for at high seven
0:13:49 uh that's because of that we regard that
0:13:51 this is will be the measure
0:13:53 of standard one and the the
0:13:56 the half's reading should be like like
0:13:58 uh
0:13:59 like a contrasting to see the contrast
0:14:02 and see
0:14:02 where errors may have memorizing error
0:14:06 or
0:14:07 scripture error has happened and then we
0:14:08 can find certain rules and so on
0:14:11 out of this principle in addition other
0:14:13 principles also linguistic principles
0:14:15 so that's the quran is the written
0:14:16 document it comes down
0:14:19 written that's what the the the the the
0:14:22 metaphysical aspect of the supranational
0:14:24 aspect of how the revelation happens how
0:14:26 it goes in the brain
0:14:27 which kind of brain waves i don't think
0:14:29 we it is
0:14:30 a very benefit for us at the moment
0:14:34 okay that's the number one but we'll
0:14:36 continue some aspects of that
0:14:37 today second second question
0:14:41 uh there's only two questions and pretty
0:14:42 much the same thing so i'll ask them
0:14:44 both
0:14:45 um one is why were all the revelations
0:14:48 scriptures revealed in ramadan and the
0:14:50 second one is why was ramadan chosen as
0:14:52 a month of revelation
0:14:54 who said the revision out all of them
0:14:55 are ramadan we have not no no evidence
0:14:57 for that
0:14:58 some people say that the torah came
0:14:59 ramadan
0:15:02 this is all uh some something is
0:15:04 narrated with abbas
0:15:05 maybe said abbas but we don't know
0:15:08 this is all nothing there is the
0:15:11 reliably and
0:15:12 uh narrated in such a way that we can
0:15:16 rely on it and hold it with iron fist i
0:15:19 think we should just forgo
0:15:20 forgo about these things so many of
0:15:22 these narrations are
0:15:23 like for example there's a current
0:15:25 scholar who
0:15:26 studied the how to give the quran the
0:15:29 quranic uh
0:15:30 characters the letters of the alphabet
0:15:32 of the quran a certain order based on
0:15:35 he made the assumption about this
0:15:36 language etc
0:15:38 but actually the order he achieved is
0:15:40 made on nintendo consistency of the
0:15:41 quran
0:15:42 and that's what counts that's the
0:15:44 language of adam and so on this is all
0:15:45 going into
0:15:46 an into metaphysical history which you
0:15:48 cannot ascertain
0:15:49 and there's nothing forward but the
0:15:51 order he achieved
0:15:52 has a very significant interesting
0:15:54 aspects maybe one day will come to that
0:15:56 but this will go more into the details
0:15:59 of the
0:16:00 uh numeric aspects of the quran which
0:16:03 will not do
0:16:04 except maybe today and maybe next time
0:16:06 we have just touched upon few things of
0:16:08 that
0:16:08 to show that there's a there's a
0:16:10 internal consistent
0:16:13 miracles of numerics in the quran which
0:16:14 proves its divine origin
0:16:16 that's only we will do only a bit of
0:16:18 that and there's still plenty of
0:16:20 research to be done there
0:16:21 so that's it so who said the revelation
0:16:23 quran and then in africa
0:16:25 that's meaning the first revelation the
0:16:28 crimes
0:16:30 was in ramadan that's it the other
0:16:32 division come
0:16:33 as needed as as occasion arises
0:16:38 and some people speculated on including
0:16:40 i think with resonation with abbas that
0:16:42 the whole quran has come down
0:16:44 uh uh what they call battle and then has
0:16:47 been then
0:16:48 sent bit by bit and so on i think this
0:16:50 is this is all
0:16:51 uh we can't rely on this tradition
0:16:54 we don't realize that's really from
0:16:56 abbas and we cannot rely on abbas
0:16:58 uh in this matter it is all this is
0:17:00 nothing more from
0:17:03 it seems to be constructed in the quran
0:17:04 because the quran says whatever they
0:17:06 bring to you as an argument
0:17:08 will get you an encounter argument an
0:17:10 even better one
0:17:11 so it is it comes as needed and as uh
0:17:14 as demands come and as occasion happens
0:17:17 not uh
0:17:18 not attached and it has come off this
0:17:21 distributed over the
0:17:22 23 years
0:17:26 because the previous books have come in
0:17:28 one and one block to
0:17:30 the other prophets why this is not
0:17:31 coming in our block and the quran
0:17:33 answered that that's because
0:17:34 there will be interaction people will
0:17:36 come with arguments we'll bring a
0:17:37 counter argument
0:17:38 events will happen with comments on
0:17:39 events as they come along
0:17:41 and also it's a part of the miracle of
0:17:43 the quran because if it has been come in
0:17:45 one block
0:17:46 someone could say oh someone sat there
0:17:48 and fixed it nicely and made
0:17:49 these numerical instances but these
0:17:51 numerical issues
0:17:53 cannot be fixed by something which has
0:17:54 been written even written by
0:17:57 even if we assume it's written by
0:17:58 muhammad ending an impossibility of
0:18:00 someone keeping track of all these
0:18:02 things
0:18:02 over 23 years just rationally impossible
0:18:05 to keep track of these numerical
0:18:07 coincidences which we'll be
0:18:09 discussing today so i think all of this
0:18:11 is
0:18:13 many of the things with rely on
0:18:14 narrations which are just
0:18:17 not reliable or on some abbas
0:18:21 is a great scholar of the quran and
0:18:24 great scholars have sometimes they
0:18:26 imagine things sing and they speculate
0:18:28 about
0:18:28 things in their mind but he never would
0:18:30 say that
0:18:32 he got that from the prophet or it's not
0:18:34 for it's maybe actually hard of him
0:18:36 he thought it came in one piece and then
0:18:38 then
0:18:40 near heaven and then was distributed but
0:18:42 i i doubt even that these narrations are
0:18:44 reliable
0:18:45 even even i i i doubt that this
0:18:48 narration goes to brahmas
0:18:50 that we can rely on that it's narration
0:18:54 it's really doubtful
0:18:57 okay so that's that's uh that's that's
0:19:00 that's the right answer
0:19:02 not these these imaginary stories about
0:19:04 the quran being revealed in one block
0:19:06 or the whole vitalis and came bit by bit
0:19:09 and zone
0:19:09 and this also relate to deep issues
0:19:11 about kadar and divine prayer knowledge
0:19:13 and all of these things
0:19:14 it's best not to avoid that
0:19:18 and it is it it will uh as i said i'm
0:19:21 doubt strongly that
0:19:22 it is coming really from birabas i think
0:19:24 it's
0:19:26 has become like like the nail of johan
0:19:29 everyone hangs say things on abraham
0:19:31 which anyone who wants to invent
0:19:32 anything about quran or about quran
0:19:34 he attributes to him quite little over
0:19:37 subject of an abbas
0:19:39 is narrated really with an island and
0:19:41 through through trust voices and as you
0:19:43 can rely on
0:19:44 plenty of it is just nonsense and that
0:19:47 is just
0:19:48 imagination of some people and they
0:19:50 imagine something or
0:19:52 invent something and they want to give
0:19:53 it an authority and the invention is not
0:19:56 so even abbas and most likely most of
0:19:58 these have been caught
0:20:00 by the scholars of hadith as being not
0:20:02 reliable and
0:20:04 fabricated so it's the best is just to
0:20:08 see what the quran says about itself it
0:20:10 came
0:20:11 in bits and pieces to respond to the
0:20:14 questions and to events as they develop
0:20:16 and that's what the quran says clearly
0:20:18 say so internal evidence external
0:20:20 evidence
0:20:20 is that it's like that but the qatar
0:20:23 meaning we started this revelation
0:20:31 that's what that's most likely what the
0:20:33 what the this uh
0:20:36 this uh i refer to because if you look
0:20:39 at in the order
0:20:41 of the qatar is after economics so as if
0:20:44 yet
0:20:44 that's what we said earlier
0:20:53 maybe that's what made ramadan and that
0:20:55 important month
0:20:58 that revelation happened in a month
0:20:59 because ramadan and because of the
0:21:01 revelation happening in ramadan after
0:21:03 that ramadan
0:21:04 gained the special status become like
0:21:07 like
0:21:08 like an anniversary they become an
0:21:10 important month because the revelation
0:21:11 happened
0:21:12 not because ramadan has any
0:21:13 characteristics it's not like any
0:21:18 solar movement there's nothing
0:21:19 distinctive in any time between
0:21:21 any time with the other but because the
0:21:23 first revelation came
0:21:24 to the ramadan
0:21:28 ramadan became the significant much much
0:21:30 not the opposite
0:21:34 also with the i said it was the field
0:21:36 quran meaning this is the month
0:21:38 we chose that month because the first
0:21:39 revelation
0:21:41 came in ramadan so we we celebrate that
0:21:44 month as a distinct
0:21:45 distinctive one the month of which the
0:21:47 revelation began
0:21:48 so we choose that month to be the month
0:21:50 of fasting
0:21:51 so it's the opposite is the religion of
0:21:53 the quran distinct not ramadan is having
0:21:56 anything characteristic of it
0:21:57 there's nothing characteristic between
0:21:59 january or march or
0:22:00 nothing uh even you could say january
0:22:03 and march the subjects
0:22:04 are testing because these are solar
0:22:06 months and january is in the winter and
0:22:08 july isn't summer maybe but in the case
0:22:11 of the
0:22:12 pure learner months of the arabic
0:22:14 islamic calendar
0:22:15 that they they go through in a sec in a
0:22:18 cycle of 23 33 years
0:22:20 between all seasons even nothing
0:22:22 distinct anyone from them
0:22:23 from the other at all good
0:22:27 so there's plenty of myths around that
0:22:29 just discount them just
0:22:31 don't bother and you find that
0:22:33 especially you especially in
0:22:34 the now the another however
0:22:38 brothers would be upset in india and
0:22:39 pakistan they love these
0:22:42 funny stories books are full of stories
0:22:45 which
0:22:46 is unbelievable just just just forget
0:22:49 about them
0:22:50 with them
0:22:53 if you want to start with the session
0:22:54 okay so so we have this if it is really
0:22:57 a written revelation then
0:22:59 uh there may be in uh but also also the
0:23:02 the order of the of the solas let's get
0:23:05 the orders of the sword in the most half
0:23:06 are
0:23:07 talking or not and so on
0:23:11 and there were stories that have
0:23:13 collected the quran in the order of
0:23:15 revelation etc
0:23:17 let us have even over the future through
0:23:18 history for example
0:23:20 every
0:23:35 muslims okay no problem good um
0:23:38 used always to say that alibaba has a um
0:23:43 or she wrote by himself in the order of
0:23:45 revelation so
0:23:47 and nadeem in his fairest in his index
0:23:50 and he's trying to index the most
0:23:52 important works and
0:23:53 books of the islamic world at his time i
0:23:56 don't remember exactly which time he
0:23:58 died but he's i think 400 something so
0:24:00 in the fifth injury or three and i think
0:24:01 it's 400
0:24:03 they say i i came to know and he
0:24:05 traveled all over the muslim world
0:24:06 checking
0:24:07 and so on all of them have this order we
0:24:11 have today there's no must-have in the
0:24:12 world
0:24:13 at that time or before that which
0:24:15 doesn't have that order even the one in
0:24:17 tashkent which will have copy of it even
0:24:18 though somebody might
0:24:19 throw it can you copy it and they can
0:24:21 even give it send it by email so that
0:24:23 you can enjoy it if you want et cetera
0:24:26 and that
0:24:28 but i hear that some people have the
0:24:30 most it
0:24:32 in kunfa so i traveled there so you
0:24:35 traveled to cover to see this mushaf and
0:24:37 these people were very stingy they must
0:24:38 have they have it in a box and so on
0:24:40 like any
0:24:40 important artifacts you persuade them to
0:24:44 bring the
0:24:45 out they brought the muslim to him so i
0:24:47 look at the muslim first in the
0:24:49 parchment and so on it was very old
0:24:50 parchment
0:24:51 clearly reasonably to be assumed at the
0:24:54 time didn't have carbon dating
0:24:56 poor guy so he could not but he relied
0:24:58 on his eyesight
0:24:59 and it's definitely a very old and
0:25:02 because of
0:25:03 all the other people try not to touch it
0:25:05 and keep it like like
0:25:06 like an holy artifact closed away in a
0:25:08 box but still
0:25:09 there will be some touching sometimes
0:25:10 shaking it is
0:25:12 definitely an old punishment it looks
0:25:14 like from that time
0:25:16 at the time of the punishment it's
0:25:17 thickness this man is just
0:25:19 the scholar of of of of like a
0:25:22 publication specialist
0:25:24 in his fairest so he knows which type
0:25:26 parchments were available
0:25:31 see if it's really if these people are
0:25:33 telling the truth see if it is
0:25:35 and they assured him showed him because
0:25:37 of their family tradition and genealogy
0:25:40 that they definitely
0:25:48 i was surprised it has the same order
0:25:50 but we have all the muslims in our hands
0:25:52 now
0:25:53 it is the same order it is not in the
0:25:54 order they usually our
0:25:56 our claim that alignment is must have
0:25:59 was written in the order of revelation
0:26:01 it's just a myth
0:26:01 perpetuated by some shia that's not true
0:26:04 that's not true it's written in that
0:26:06 order so that order
0:26:07 seems to be also tokifi it is also
0:26:10 strengthened by the fact that the sahaba
0:26:12 dividing muslims are called you find
0:26:14 that in especially
0:26:16 printed in pakistan and india they have
0:26:18 the code beside the division in jews
0:26:20 and et cetera they have this called
0:26:22 manzila you fight in the side
0:26:25 these manziela they are gathered as the
0:26:27 so-called the partition of the sahaba
0:26:29 they divide the quran in seven
0:26:30 participants so they can read it in a
0:26:32 week
0:26:33 seven manzila and the the system of
0:26:37 division is the following the
0:26:38 the exception of how obviously nobody
0:26:41 comes from
0:26:42 they the first three surahs three swords
0:26:45 that's the first one zero
0:26:47 then three and then five then seven
0:26:51 then nine then then eleven
0:26:54 then thirteen you know so it's going odd
0:26:58 the six and then throw them faster from
0:27:00 calf downwards
0:27:02 so that is a conveniently for seven days
0:27:04 you can read it in seven days this is
0:27:06 the division of this hour
0:27:07 they didn't have these jews and so on
0:27:08 that's jews and so on is to make things
0:27:10 convenient for the later generation
0:27:12 but that was the division it respects
0:27:14 the limit of surah and it goes by this
0:27:16 order
0:27:16 so the three phases are manziel number
0:27:19 one
0:27:20 five major number to the five after that
0:27:23 seven after that is monster number three
0:27:25 nine eleven thirteen and then
0:27:29 fast that's from calf downwards to the
0:27:31 end to
0:27:32 quran until then so
0:27:36 that that show you that this this order
0:27:38 is under the
0:27:40 order of the surah and their size is
0:27:41 fits nicely the manazil are not exactly
0:27:44 the same length but
0:27:45 roughly the same length
0:27:53 i would have preferred that the later
0:27:55 division would have been manageable
0:27:56 divided maybe in four parts so if
0:27:59 someone wants to read
0:28:01 the quran seven days is too much to read
0:28:03 it maybe in in almost a month 28 days
0:28:05 like divided in quarters so it goes in a
0:28:08 in a weekly cycle
0:28:10 it's better than going in the 30-day
0:28:12 cycle which is not very sensible by the
0:28:14 way
0:28:14 but that's what what the scholars later
0:28:16 decided it's more convenient for people
0:28:18 for reading and so on but these all
0:28:19 divisions are artificial even the
0:28:21 division of the sahaba division of the
0:28:23 sahaba hence clearly
0:28:24 that the the order of of the surah and
0:28:27 the muslim
0:28:28 are really takif as such and we have all
0:28:31 established
0:28:32 in contra encounter argument against the
0:28:36 prevalent point of view that they were
0:28:37 enormous at the time of the prophet
0:28:39 that's not true we have established
0:28:42 there was even a
0:28:43 a mushroom for himself who he gave to
0:28:45 atlanta
0:28:46 and these all these muslims have been
0:28:48 the same order
0:28:51 without any doubt so that's that's
0:28:54 that's uh
0:28:55 that's a an important uh so
0:28:58 all of this talking assuming the quran
0:29:02 is from allah we have to test this
0:29:03 hypothesis say the scientific way of
0:29:05 going outside and make this hypothesis
0:29:06 and check it if it is consistent
0:29:08 and make the counter hypothesis and show
0:29:10 that it leads to inconsistency
0:29:12 and for example the controversy is for
0:29:14 muhammad
0:29:16 then explain how come these numerical
0:29:18 coincidences all of them are happening
0:29:22 for example just just on the elementary
0:29:24 level but before that you do
0:29:26 you do that you have to assert and what
0:29:27 is the script of the must-have
0:29:29 in counting of eyes and swallow we have
0:29:31 to to ascend what is the correct count
0:29:34 which count is the correct and we are
0:29:36 good that the correct round cannot be
0:29:37 the coffee crowd
0:29:53 madani and the mastery and maybe others
0:29:54 so the mother names
0:29:56 and then the fact that these madani and
0:29:58 the basri throughout the durian
0:30:00 and the modernity through the two
0:30:02 channels are protected and preserved
0:30:04 this is hundreds of years before the
0:30:05 time of computer before we are even
0:30:08 existed and we're discussing this issue
0:30:10 shows if this if it's from allah there's
0:30:12 a divine behind that
0:30:13 was showing us that this is the one we
0:30:16 should follow
0:30:16 in matter of both writing and
0:30:19 matter of count and indeed that's a few
0:30:22 let's look at the count of the
0:30:24 of the uh the electoral so let's call it
0:30:27 they have
0:30:27 interesting it's all all of them african
0:30:29 the african muslim the sudanese
0:30:33 the colon in libya and
0:30:37 and not on all north africa
0:30:41 all of them are following the one count
0:30:43 which
0:30:44 produces that the quran the number of
0:30:47 the eyes of the
0:30:48 souls totally is 600 6214
0:30:53 add to that 113 basmati because we saw
0:30:56 the tower does not have a basmati
0:31:00 as a beginning as a number zero
0:31:04 if you if you add that together you will
0:31:06 end with 6
0:31:07 327 i of the quran including the
0:31:09 bosmalas
0:31:10 and this is interestingly num it is
0:31:12 equal 19 times 333
0:31:15 and this is 19 times 3 times 11 11
0:31:19 or written correctly
0:31:24 in in basic writing with prime numbers
0:31:27 19 times 3 times 3 times 37
0:31:31 the number 19 is is significant why it
0:31:34 is significant let me just go to
0:31:36 a little bit in the number 19 and there
0:31:38 was an issue about this
0:31:40 in america and he has
0:31:44 went into off tangent claim to be a
0:31:46 prophet and all these things but
0:31:48 independent of that what his initial
0:31:50 work was
0:31:52 good hinted in that right direction
0:31:56 but the problem his problem is that he
0:31:59 did not find
0:32:00 the correct count of the quran because
0:32:01 he relied on the
0:32:03 like most people would rely on the kofi
0:32:06 accounting
0:32:07 and the uh the reading of hasselhoff
0:32:10 perhaps from awesome which is the most
0:32:12 common in the eastern of the muslim
0:32:13 world
0:32:14 including even egypt but in egypt but
0:32:16 all the eastern of the muslim world that
0:32:18 is the one which is normally printed
0:32:20 unknown from egypt eastwards
0:32:23 which is a pity because this is the
0:32:24 weaker one
0:32:27 why the number nineteen why he came to
0:32:29 the ballet what what attracted his
0:32:31 attention at following
0:32:32 uh things is that in in
0:32:35 in the quran says clearly uh about uh
0:32:54 i'll take care of them and wrestle them
0:32:56 down and you take care of the night
0:32:58 and then we'll be able to get out of the
0:33:00 hellfire
0:33:05 yes
0:33:44 no problem but maybe there are fields we
0:33:46 don't know
0:33:48 but they are 19 so 19 seems to be a
0:33:50 significant number
0:33:51 now if we check al-basmara with this odd
0:33:54 writing
0:33:55 it is 90 letters we check the number of
0:33:57 basmalat
0:33:58 in quran there's 113 ahead of the and so
0:34:02 on
0:34:02 but there's another bismillah in full
0:34:05 the full sentence but not just about the
0:34:06 ayah
0:34:07 it's insulting this is the chapter of
0:34:10 the ant so if you add this one
0:34:13 not as a okay you find the best of the
0:34:15 quran is 114.
0:34:17 the number of surah quran is 114 114 is
0:34:19 again a multiple of
0:34:21 19. it's 19 times 3 times 2. so again 19
0:34:25 appears there
0:34:26 that's very interesting it's becoming
0:34:30 now becoming more and more the plot
0:34:31 becomes thickens
0:34:32 becomes interesting so the basmati
0:34:37 we have 113 ayah
0:34:40 standalone ayah number zero and
0:34:43 113 solar and the basmati of tawba which
0:34:47 has been
0:34:48 it's not there is replaced by a part of
0:34:50 the ayah and sort of
0:34:51 and that's the reason that there is
0:34:55 there's like like a riddle for kids uh
0:34:58 it's common in in middle arabia and
0:35:01 there they asked a child
0:35:02 do you know what what happened to the
0:35:04 basmati of sort of tawba where it is
0:35:05 gone
0:35:06 i say that i don't know where it is
0:35:09 going to say ah
0:35:10 the ant went at night and ate it away so
0:35:12 it's in the belly of the antis inside
0:35:14 that
0:35:15 it's obviously like like
0:35:18 like like a a nice a nice riddle for
0:35:21 kids just to play with kids
0:35:23 but this this past manner is only a part
0:35:25 of the sword and it is
0:35:27 inside sword so
0:35:32 exactly like that with this writing is
0:35:35 114 times in the quran 113
0:35:38 separate eyes in the beginning of the
0:35:39 also and
0:35:41 one phrase
0:35:57 so this is very interesting
0:36:00 this becomes almost impossible to to do
0:36:04 to deny of importance
0:36:06 when we check in surat kaff why is worth
0:36:09 cops specifically
0:36:11 the people of lord you know lord the
0:36:14 prophet lord who was sent to saddam and
0:36:16 gomorrah
0:36:17 the quran doesn't mention the bible
0:36:23 all over the quran the story of lord
0:36:25 mentioned in many places in the quran
0:36:26 it has been shall cover the people of
0:36:29 lord
0:36:30 except in surat kaff in surat khaf
0:36:36 the word convulate is replaced by
0:36:38 ichuang
0:36:41 the arabs they say sometimes about your
0:36:43 own people sometimes your brothers
0:36:45 and they address you for example if you
0:36:47 are from a tribe the brother of tamim or
0:36:49 myself brother of the washer yeah
0:36:51 brother think that your own people you
0:36:54 could
0:36:55 in the same philosophy you could address
0:36:57 someone who is english for the brother
0:36:59 of the angry of the english
0:37:01 meaning you are you're you're you belong
0:37:03 to these people you are their brother in
0:37:05 that sense
0:37:05 so the word he does not
0:37:10 other people does not mean the
0:37:12 brotherhood in a belief or
0:37:14 or an ideology or anything like that so
0:37:17 why come loot has
0:37:34 because
0:37:39 so it may be related to the number of
0:37:41 the cops in this aura
0:37:42 and sure enough if you count the cuffs
0:37:44 of this or the correct counting
0:37:45 now we come to the issue of counting
0:37:47 letters there are some issues with
0:37:48 counting letters
0:37:50 as written in the in the massage for
0:37:52 many years not as the
0:37:53 spelling as a pronunciation
0:37:56 it is indeed a multiple of 19. i don't
0:38:00 have it
0:38:01 i i will check it for you maybe next
0:38:02 time if you wish we can't go and check
0:38:04 it myself but we have
0:38:05 that brick one issue there the issue is
0:38:08 there if we count if the quran is a
0:38:10 revelation by writing and the writing
0:38:11 without money writing is talking
0:38:13 then we have to count the letter as they
0:38:15 are written nevertheless
0:38:19 there is an exception there which had to
0:38:20 be made to to make the count and cuff
0:38:22 correctly
0:38:23 you could say this is fixing things
0:38:24 playing with things but this is not
0:38:26 correct because
0:38:27 this will be a system which will be
0:38:29 applied all over the quran
0:38:30 and bring other evidences by itself so
0:38:32 it has to be consistent
0:38:34 than consistently is that wherever
0:38:37 we have a letter which is originating
0:38:39 from a tribulate or
0:38:41 root like for example
0:38:45 or it's actually two cuffs
0:38:48 wherever we have a word it's written one
0:38:50 cuff like
0:38:51 it's written with one cuff and with
0:38:53 shadow on top of it in arabic writing
0:38:56 to indicate this is actually two cuffs
0:38:58 merged
0:38:59 compact together this
0:39:02 uh this should be count as two letters
0:39:06 and this apply for example for example
0:39:08 the word
0:39:09 because
0:39:12 applied
0:39:16 the article of affirmation in which
0:39:18 comes to
0:39:19 in in in the in the nominal sentence
0:39:21 with arabic has also nominal sentences
0:39:23 not only
0:39:24 the arabic sentence does not need to be
0:39:26 having a verb it can be without verb
0:39:28 which is essentially the verb that's
0:39:30 hidden in muhammad
0:39:32 when it comes to
0:39:35 muhammad muhammad
0:39:40 muhammad
0:39:45 depending upon the position in the
0:39:47 sentence in our anna
0:39:49 that's it the origin of that is
0:39:52 then we have also articles the letter
0:39:54 the word summa
0:39:56 than after that following
0:39:59 but of the same category after that
0:40:01 following
0:40:04 you will be asked after that
0:40:07 about the the nice life you had and did
0:40:10 you do
0:40:11 your duty in that nice life
0:40:15 so these have to be or there's written
0:40:17 that's
0:40:19 but the meme had to be counted twice so
0:40:22 this is
0:40:23 if we establish this road it will be
0:40:25 consistently to be applied all over the
0:40:27 quran in surat kaff
0:40:28 establishing that because there's what
0:40:30 is there and that's
0:40:31 similar it is but only those who have
0:40:35 were coming from uh that origin
0:40:46 must be counted too because it's the
0:40:48 original it's originally from
0:40:49 two bats this if you that consistently
0:40:52 this will be the query most likely
0:40:54 most likely i did not finish that and i
0:40:56 think some people did not
0:40:58 pursue the recession that direction it
0:41:00 consists enough of consistently yet
0:41:03 that that would be the correct to be
0:41:05 applied all over the quran consistently
0:41:07 otherwise you are playing game you are
0:41:09 fixing here
0:41:09 and changing here that says that doesn't
0:41:11 work that will that will be a sign of of
0:41:14 fixing things
0:41:14 to to appear the way you like like
0:41:18 the so-called bible chord the bible code
0:41:19 is done this way a lot of fixing and
0:41:21 playing games that's that's
0:41:22 that's not that's not the correct way of
0:41:24 things others indicate that you are not
0:41:26 referring to a revelation so that's
0:41:29 that's the number 19 of significance
0:41:31 there are other numbers of navigants but
0:41:32 i'm not going to discuss them today
0:41:34 leave them for
0:41:35 really maybe a separate issue of the
0:41:37 miracle-ness of the quran but there are
0:41:39 other numerical coincidence the quran
0:41:41 which proves
0:41:44 that the quran is definitely but let's
0:41:47 stress that the russian the writing of
0:41:48 the quran and even the others or
0:41:51 of the surahs is taught if he is as
0:41:54 given
0:41:55 by by by the protest islam or
0:41:59 if you wish dictated by allah through
0:42:03 metaphysical channels you know let's
0:42:06 just say made the sahaba agree on that
0:42:09 by by by by the divine influence when
0:42:12 they say
0:42:12 in their psyche in the time of
0:42:14 revelation whatever it is
0:42:16 the mechanism doesn't matter it is
0:42:18 definitely it could not have been that
0:42:19 all the messiah have disorder
0:42:21 all of them without exception unless it
0:42:23 is by talking
0:42:25 it can't be bye bye and we know that the
0:42:27 the balancer had his almost haven't
0:42:30 we can assume safely it will have the
0:42:32 same order although we don't have that
0:42:33 must have in our hand unfortunately
0:42:35 but if there have been any other order
0:42:37 some people coming from him
0:42:38 would have a different order but all
0:42:41 over the muslim world at the same order
0:42:42 there is no doubt about that that is
0:42:45 order so this is the ocleaf
0:42:46 and they said again remind yourself that
0:42:49 that's the russian mr o'keefe that there
0:42:50 is oddities
0:42:51 which is who shall evidently be
0:42:53 delivered like a bismil
0:42:55 basmati bhism is written without the
0:42:57 aleph it should be written with the alif
0:42:58 because
0:42:59 it is b ism or even if symbol is written
0:43:02 according to pronunciation
0:43:04 deliberately the same with rahmah
0:43:05 written against the pronunciation
0:43:07 without alif and that makes the basmati
0:43:10 19
0:43:10 letters and this consistently everywhere
0:43:14 in the quran like that
0:43:17 so the other like
0:43:25 an ocean foreign information and things
0:43:27 to be studied and most likely
0:43:29 you will need really a computerized
0:43:30 system but for that you have to give
0:43:32 give the raw material in a consistent
0:43:34 and proper way and give the system a
0:43:36 consistent property
0:43:37 let me mention um some issues of the
0:43:42 miraculous incidences the quran about
0:43:45 numbers
0:43:45 which are not necessarily uh
0:43:49 depending upon upon upon
0:43:52 the count of letters and count of words
0:43:55 in that sense but it shows it it can't
0:43:58 be possibly
0:43:59 from muhammad because this is i said it
0:44:01 is taken from
0:44:02 from a book which is written and
0:44:04 revealed over or allegedly revealed
0:44:06 let's say allegedly we should be not
0:44:08 running this point but
0:44:09 allegedly by muhammad revealed over 23
0:44:11 years and we know by historically
0:44:13 that's the case how it has happened
0:44:16 it can't be possibly that it has been
0:44:18 fixed this way let me give examples for
0:44:20 that
0:44:22 for this uh
0:44:27 ah this is not all that's there there
0:44:28 are plenty other things but i
0:44:30 shows i chose just a subset uh
0:44:33 which is uh which is i think cannot be
0:44:37 if one is a coincidence then the others
0:44:39 cannot be considered and that's
0:44:40 impossible
0:44:40 to regard so then we we can conclude
0:44:43 that this
0:44:44 what we have in hand is definitely a
0:44:45 divided relation let's let's
0:44:47 let's say for example one example that
0:44:49 there were two
0:44:50 months in plural
0:44:54 came one with a alif
0:44:57 the months came in quran in one place
0:45:01 and the ayah that the shore
0:45:16 foreign the count
0:45:19 of months in the site of allah or in the
0:45:23 system of allah
0:45:24 and by defense divine by allah
0:45:27 12 months in the book of allah when he
0:45:30 created even
0:45:31 meaning as decided by the creation it
0:45:33 does not mean that it was 12 months
0:45:34 at the time of creation there were no
0:45:36 day or night there was nothing it was
0:45:37 big bang
0:45:38 but at that time it was decided to be at
0:45:40 the time when muhammad is sent
0:45:42 or when the humanity will be on earth it
0:45:44 will be
0:45:45 and four of them are haram that's in the
0:45:47 religion of ibrahim and israel
0:45:49 for unprohibited months fighting should
0:45:51 be abolished in that
0:45:52 it's the time of feast these forwards to
0:45:54 protect the hajj time because
0:45:56 the holy the protected month where the
0:45:59 month of
0:46:00 uh
0:46:04 the is the time of hajj so there's one
0:46:06 month ahead of it
0:46:08 to allow the people to travel peacefully
0:46:10 for hajj
0:46:11 the month of hajj itself and the month
0:46:13 after that to allow the people to finish
0:46:15 their trades and their
0:46:16 their businesses and so on and go back
0:46:18 home peacefully without fearing the war
0:46:20 and there's another one in media that's
0:46:23 raj
0:46:25 about that is i love of people mid-year
0:46:28 at least
0:46:29 a break time in which they can do umrah
0:46:31 and can travel peacefully
0:46:32 so time of hostility is limited
0:46:36 so that hostility will be limited that's
0:46:39 in the old shariah of ismail
0:46:41 apparently was inherited or it is an
0:46:44 agreement by the arab which became like
0:46:46 an international
0:46:47 binding agreement which is the quran
0:46:49 sanctioned
0:46:50 many people discussed now actually they
0:46:52 are abolished because
0:46:53 between muslims there should be no fight
0:46:55 neither problem
0:46:57 and the non-muslims do not recognize so
0:46:59 they're not an international part of an
0:47:01 international system
0:47:02 so that's all gone and by the way
0:47:04 ramadan is not from natural home as many
0:47:05 people think it's
0:47:06 always not so don't don't do injustice
0:47:10 to yourself in them and fight them shall
0:47:11 keep all of them as they fight you all
0:47:13 of them etc
0:47:15 so so if we go for
0:47:18 the word
0:47:21 single because
0:47:31 in various position of grammar we found
0:47:33 it coming in the quran 12 times exactly
0:47:36 like the number of short in the in the
0:47:38 year
0:47:39 that's that's that's that's really a
0:47:41 thick conversation that will be
0:47:43 quite extreme to claim that it's a
0:47:45 coincidence
0:47:46 just arbitrarily like that
0:47:50 so the word shah month with al the month
0:47:59 it came in the quran 12 times the other
0:48:03 roots related came came twice
0:48:06 two months in the duel because arabic
0:48:08 has also beside having singular
0:48:10 we have dual and plural so she rang him
0:48:12 twice and
0:48:13 why the the the word
0:48:19 six times that may have some certain
0:48:22 antenna in the
0:48:23 implications but not going to that
0:48:26 another interesting uh
0:48:28 uh synchronization which is worthy of
0:48:31 taking a look to it
0:48:32 is for example that is
0:48:35 his mother uh is mentioned 25 times in
0:48:38 the
0:48:38 in the quran
0:48:41 in one ayah he is compared to adam
0:48:45 he says
0:48:52 mention the quran exactly 25 times
0:48:54 exactly like
0:48:57 this again claiming that this is just
0:48:59 arbitrary and coincidental
0:49:01 is really defies belief
0:49:05 this is almost impossible specifically
0:49:09 because the word messiah
0:49:13 is not used for quran for anybody else
0:49:15 except muhammad except
0:49:18 yeah and it's used in several places in
0:49:21 the quran in 11 places actually and
0:49:27 that's three times al-masih
0:49:46 between themselves because if you say
0:49:49 the son of maryam you could interchange
0:49:52 them and it doesn't change in the
0:49:53 context it's the same person the same
0:49:54 description
0:49:55 but why in some places is mentioned in
0:49:57 some places
0:50:00 without isa so that the number of the
0:50:02 isa
0:50:03 where the the the the word lisa
0:50:06 is is is correctly 25 because
0:50:10 as i said they could be interchanged
0:50:13 with the same meaning
0:50:14 but that that that fixing
0:50:18 that uh is mentioned in that in that
0:50:22 composition
0:50:23 three times while messi had made him
0:50:25 without the weather is a five times
0:50:26 if it would have been slightly different
0:50:28 the numbers would not have been fit
0:50:30 together
0:50:30 so it's impossible that the isa is
0:50:32 mentioned 35 times
0:50:34 and the other minutiae 25 times
0:50:38 and one eye is called comparing both of
0:50:40 them that
0:50:41 they have no father no no no father in
0:50:43 that sense
0:50:44 uh uh uh he
0:50:48 would would would have been violated
0:50:52 so this is a very interesting one this
0:50:53 could could not be could not be uh
0:50:57 except done deliberately and it cannot
0:50:59 be done over the
0:51:00 whole the quran over 23 years of the
0:51:02 relation
0:51:03 unless by supranational power it cannot
0:51:06 be done by any human writer
0:51:08 can be done this way
0:51:11 and they to add to the miraculous nature
0:51:13 is that even the final version of the
0:51:15 quran
0:51:16 and the final book yes
0:51:19 which was not even the final because you
0:51:20 took it before the ayah ali
0:51:23 came down most likely the prophet sent
0:51:24 to him say put it in that place
0:51:26 and he put it was not even the hand of
0:51:28 muhammad so he cannot even fix it
0:51:29 that was uh that was then written from
0:51:31 the documentation
0:51:33 and time will wake up so this max adds
0:51:34 add even to the
0:51:36 nation miraculous nation of the quran so
0:51:39 that's
0:51:39 that's the assuming that this is just
0:51:41 accidental
0:51:42 is the defies really belief
0:51:46 if you add that to the one of the of the
0:51:48 ones it becomes even more difficult to
0:51:50 assume that this is
0:51:52 not here really with the supernatural
0:51:54 power behind that let's go to
0:51:56 another one example of these numerical
0:51:58 coincidences
0:51:59 which is relatively insensitive to the
0:52:01 details of the writing and
0:52:03 the details of the wording and the
0:52:04 counting of letters
0:52:06 and when one examines that the way
0:52:08 traditional man
0:52:10 followed me by in a conjugated
0:52:13 proper declared decline probably is mr
0:52:16 quran 24
0:52:27 is mentioned also 24 times
0:52:31 and this is also impossible to be
0:52:33 accidental because
0:52:36 in certain places could be substituted
0:52:38 by by wife
0:52:39 at its habit really in the quran for
0:52:41 example in the story of zakaria
0:52:44 he is complaining to allah that he that
0:52:46 he is
0:52:47 my wife my woman is uh
0:52:51 barn and i have nobody will take over
0:52:54 the
0:52:54 the position of of a chief priest in the
0:52:57 temple
0:52:58 and i'm afraid the people who are
0:52:59 unworthy will take over
0:53:02 so allah responded to him and gave him
0:53:03 the good news that he will get yahya
0:53:07 and the quran says first responded to
0:53:09 him
0:53:10 accepted his prayers
0:53:14 and we reformed or they corrected his
0:53:16 wife most likely made her not baran
0:53:18 that's a that's a formation in that
0:53:21 she's meant here some people say what's
0:53:22 meaning
0:53:25 his father whatever they say it is
0:53:41 the 24 equals 20
0:53:48 so while in all this application of the
0:53:50 career three times he talks about imrati
0:53:52 the quran responds to him and says his
0:53:55 spouse
0:53:56 does not use the word immorator
0:53:57 otherwise the count would have been
0:53:59 violated it could have been because he's
0:54:02 also wife
0:54:03 that's why the viewers are different
0:54:06 they use the quran
0:54:11 not only if i was just young woman but
0:54:12 also a wife
0:54:19 let me just stop this call
0:54:28 so that's that's one i think i think
0:54:30 that's that's also very strong evidence
0:54:32 that this is
0:54:32 this cannot be delivered it's out of
0:54:34 question let's leave it
0:54:36 let's get another one which is also
0:54:38 currently delivered has also said an
0:54:40 interesting aspect
0:54:44 the word young day either
0:54:50 or
0:54:58 364 times
0:55:03 now why 365 they had this
0:55:07 you could say that number of the days or
0:55:08 years but actually let's let's
0:55:10 think a little bit about that more
0:55:12 accurately
0:55:14 day and night is not a lunar concept it
0:55:18 is
0:55:18 a solar concept day and night are
0:55:20 dictated by the movement of the sun
0:55:22 the year is also so like a solar concept
0:55:25 now the year
0:55:29 doesn't have an exact number of days
0:55:31 it's a as we know 365.2
0:55:34 fraction etc so we don't have a full
0:55:36 exact number of days
0:55:40 so we could expect for example that the
0:55:43 number to come like many people that
0:55:44 miscounted and say it's 365. it's not
0:55:47 360 more i counted myself
0:55:49 once more 1064. why they show you 360
0:55:53 volt
0:55:54 some people would count 360 the nominal
0:55:56 numbers
0:55:57 i will come to the 360 again 364.
0:56:01 why 364 364 is actually what what you
0:56:04 could call
0:56:05 is is a hint that uh that the the the
0:56:08 best count of month days in the years
0:56:11 actually 364 which is
0:56:13 take care of the fact that that this
0:56:15 number is also a multiple of seven it is
0:56:17 actually
0:56:18 52 weeks and that's what used for
0:56:20 example in taxation years
0:56:22 and in many payment systems many payment
0:56:25 systems go weekly bi-weekly
0:56:28 fortnightly cetera and you know
0:56:31 uh the ones who know accounting between
0:56:33 you know how to calculate for example
0:56:35 the rental
0:56:36 uh based on and bi-weekly and that's it
0:56:39 by assuming that the
0:56:40 that the year is 364 days and then you
0:56:43 can
0:56:44 make by making a division you can
0:56:46 calculate what will be
0:56:47 the proper rent for a month then because
0:56:49 a month is not a multiple of weeks
0:56:51 a straight month weeks we have to do to
0:56:53 collect a fraction and the way it is
0:56:55 chosen that the year is assumed three to
0:56:56 three 364
0:56:58 and then you recalculate what will be
0:57:00 the monthly rental
0:57:02 uh or if a monthly enter is given for
0:57:04 example
0:57:05 uh in a in a we are applying for example
0:57:08 a benefit
0:57:09 and then they under benefit agency or
0:57:11 the council usually pay
0:57:12 by bi-weekly or weekly also bi-weekly
0:57:15 usually
0:57:16 then they have to calculate what will be
0:57:17 the bi-weekly allocation
0:57:19 and then they calculate by this by
0:57:21 making the quotient and
0:57:22 calculate according the year 364 weeks
0:57:25 so they can calculate then what will be
0:57:27 the weekly rate the appropriate weekly
0:57:29 rate for that for that
0:57:30 that monthly rent because many many
0:57:33 contracts add monthly not
0:57:34 not by weekly or weekly so that's the
0:57:37 hint that
0:57:38 364 is the best approximation for the
0:57:41 number of days in the year
0:57:43 which take take make the consideration
0:57:46 of the number of weeks
0:57:47 and takes care of of uh but anyway it is
0:57:50 close enough
0:57:51 now concerning this just a side note
0:57:54 then there's the nominal year which is
0:57:56 the the
0:57:57 the the year which was uh established by
0:58:00 the pharaoh and the eli babilion and
0:58:02 there's 360 days
0:58:03 obviously there's the missing days there
0:58:05 so the
0:58:06 the egyptian they have the 360 days
0:58:09 and they have uh 12 months each one in
0:58:12 30.
0:58:13 that's an attempt to mix two systems
0:58:15 because actually months
0:58:17 are mother month is a lunar system that
0:58:19 is a lunar concept it's not a
0:58:20 so it's not a solar concept in the solar
0:58:23 movement there's nothing which indicates
0:58:24 what samantha is
0:58:25 it's the moon which indicates what the
0:58:26 mother is so making
0:58:28 the year 12 months each 30 and then
0:58:31 adding
0:58:32 five days to it to uh to correct that
0:58:36 and they they
0:58:37 several days they have certain names i
0:58:38 don't remember them and and the
0:58:40 babylonian have several systems before
0:58:41 they went later to honolulu
0:58:43 luna says
0:58:47 system later on which the jews are using
0:58:50 with which the
0:58:51 calculation of his transfer is made
0:58:53 that's the reason is moving
0:58:55 it moves a little bit back and forth
0:58:56 because it's trying to fix
0:58:59 the lunar months and by interestingly
0:59:01 the law to fix the lunar month and this
0:59:04 and and and so that so that you have
0:59:07 lower
0:59:07 months but you have you have the luna
0:59:09 months coming roughly in the same season
0:59:12 which the jews need because the taxation
0:59:15 system and the charity system
0:59:17 is made on that which seems to be
0:59:19 dictated by the old testament
0:59:21 that seems to be the this system is you
0:59:23 have to do
0:59:24 uh to do every few years adding id month
0:59:27 so they have
0:59:28 they have years of of 12 months luna
0:59:31 months
0:59:31 and years of 13. in a certain sequence
0:59:34 and the sequence
0:59:35 and the system is 19 years again the
0:59:37 number 19 comes here
0:59:38 that's an interesting point maybe that's
0:59:40 related to why this number 19 has been
0:59:42 mentioned
0:59:43 so but this is another so in that in
0:59:46 that case the year will will be
0:59:48 again uh will be uh and the ones will be
0:59:51 added differently
0:59:52 but in the in the usual prophecies of
0:59:54 the prophets
0:59:56 usually a year and a month is used as 30
0:59:58 and the year is 360.
1:00:00 so when you when you work with the old
1:00:02 the prophet especially of the daniel
1:00:04 prophets you have to work with this
1:00:05 so-called
1:00:06 prophetic year which is 360 days and you
1:00:09 have to calculate the days for certain
1:00:10 prophecies
1:00:11 are exact up to the day if you calculate
1:00:14 with days 360. not with 364
1:00:16 no to 365 not with the lunar month it is
1:00:20 354
1:00:21 55 and this is a fraction also again so
1:00:25 so i i would say this is that 364 is
1:00:29 is also an amazing uh very amazing and
1:00:33 and attract attention
1:00:37 let me just mention some other wishes
1:00:39 related to the some kind of
1:00:40 synchronization of the meaning
1:00:42 uh which is also again uh cannot be uh
1:00:46 purely coincidental in a book which is
1:00:48 written allegedly by muhammad
1:00:50 or dictated muhammad over 23 years
1:00:53 although these are not
1:00:55 in this level of exactness
1:00:58 but they are a level certain meaning for
1:01:01 example
1:01:02 the word zakah in the quran comes 30 to
1:01:05 a time
1:01:06 32 times while the word barakat
1:01:09 and baraka comes 32 times so zakai is
1:01:12 related to baraka
1:01:13 and we know zakai's
1:01:17 it restores barakah on your in your
1:01:19 wealth if you don't bring the zakah
1:01:21 then the barak of your wealth will be
1:01:22 gone so it's related to barack in the
1:01:25 sense
1:01:25 then we have for example the world
1:01:27 suburb patience endurance
1:01:29 comes in the quran 114 times again 114
1:01:32 that's six times that 19.
1:01:35 but in the same time the same number
1:01:36 comes the way chida
1:01:40 toughness and it's the difference of it
1:01:43 so it's also hundred fourteen
1:01:44 so it's related summer durance and
1:01:48 patience
1:01:49 makes good sense if it is paired in some
1:01:52 sense
1:01:53 with shinda with toughness with hardship
1:01:58 we have for example interesting
1:02:02 that the word notfa that's a semen drop
1:02:05 which from which humans are created
1:02:07 or actually after the fertilization
1:02:09 that's called notwa
1:02:11 is mentioned 12 times in the quran and
1:02:14 the word prien
1:02:15 the origin of the life which is the note
1:02:19 of life as all is that in the human
1:02:21 being
1:02:22 is uh is also 12 times
1:02:26 the same number
1:02:31 an interesting one which observes
1:02:33 meaning is
1:02:35 the plural of loop is having the same
1:02:38 number in the quran 16 times like
1:02:42 two different words
1:02:45 the famous is actually the heart the the
1:02:48 physical heart and and
1:02:49 obviously the word heart is used also in
1:02:51 in the in the
1:02:53 metaphorical sense being understanding
1:02:55 and perception and
1:02:56 and under and and
1:03:01 comprehension but loop means the
1:03:03 internal the core
1:03:05 the internal core that's used also in
1:03:07 the meaning of internal
1:03:10 mind of internal capacity of
1:03:13 comprehension understanding of the same
1:03:15 number
1:03:16 interesting another one is that the
1:03:18 malaika the quran is having
1:03:20 is 88 times with the same exactly the
1:03:23 same number like shayateen like the
1:03:24 devil's
1:03:25 satan's so we have as many malaika as
1:03:28 satan's
1:03:30 indicating some kind of synchronization
1:03:32 of
1:03:33 balance in the universe
1:03:39 another interesting one is that dunya
1:03:41 this world
1:03:42 is mentioned quran 115 times
1:03:46 the same number is mentioned
1:03:52 no so this is this is not very exciting
1:03:54 because
1:03:55 usually mentioned together was not true
1:03:56 not all of them together in the same
1:03:58 ayah or the same context sometimes only
1:04:00 dunya
1:04:01 with no mission
1:04:05 and in many places they are together
1:04:06 still the numbers are the same
1:04:10 an interesting one is for example
1:04:14 the misguided ones of balloon is seventy
1:04:16 times the quran
1:04:18 the same number like mouth at the dead
1:04:20 one so that alone the misguided one is
1:04:22 dead
1:04:22 stationary hinting that the
1:04:25 the real death is being misguided not a
1:04:28 physical death
1:04:29 but this is a hint again one of these
1:04:32 one of the very interesting ones
1:04:35 very exciting one side 500 is really one
1:04:37 of the more most
1:04:38 most
1:04:54 which has become the standard word for
1:04:56 the for the for the
1:04:57 the rational capacity of human beings
1:04:59 that's the your words used by
1:05:00 philosophers and
1:05:02 they they did not that's the word which
1:05:04 has become the the prevalent one
1:05:06 and the sprinting the quran yeah formal
1:05:08 verb
1:05:09 came 49 times 7 times 7
1:05:12 which may be significant i'd say there's
1:05:15 many things need to be studied here
1:05:16 there
1:05:18 and amazingly the same number seven
1:05:20 times m is the word nor
1:05:22 light so there's some kind of
1:05:25 internal or metaphysical or
1:05:28 spiritual connection between rationality
1:05:30 rationalization
1:05:31 and light alcohol leads to knowledge
1:05:36 national facilities give you knowledge
1:05:37 and knowledge is nor is light it's
1:05:39 enlightened
1:05:40 enlighten you make you enlightened make
1:05:41 you you know where you are
1:05:44 in the universe so that's a synchronized
1:05:46 with noor is very interesting
1:05:48 with the same number
1:05:58 yes they came in the quran one place
1:06:01 praising the
1:06:20 many other places and still they are
1:06:22 exactly the same number eight times
1:06:26 and another interesting one is the the
1:06:28 name muhammad
1:06:29 with this word muhammad started the
1:06:31 quran is four times
1:06:33 this was an interesting point it shows
1:06:36 you if the quran would have been written
1:06:37 by muhammad he would have mentioned
1:06:39 himself at least a little bit more than
1:06:41 four times
1:06:41 whether he says 25 times musa i don't
1:06:44 know how many times i didn't see that
1:06:46 count
1:06:46 and so on his character is completely
1:06:49 his personality is completely
1:06:50 disappeared he's not
1:06:51 not present in the quran directly but
1:06:53 what counts four times
1:06:54 like muhammad interesting sharia the
1:06:57 sharia is four times like muhammad
1:07:00 indicating that muhammad is the is the
1:07:02 one who has brought this sharia
1:07:04 sharia so this
1:07:07 is that these are interesting things so
1:07:09 there's plenty more than that
1:07:11 uh some of them more persuasive some of
1:07:12 the less persuasive etc
1:07:17 maybe one one one point which maybe is
1:07:20 not my invention someone else has found
1:07:21 that out
1:07:22 which also affirms what we said about
1:07:25 that the order in the surah in the quran
1:07:27 or
1:07:28 is this is the following
1:07:32 allah this is the prophet in various
1:07:34 places
1:07:35 uh like the the following let's say
1:07:39 this is surah number 40 remember
1:07:52 is true either we will show you what we
1:07:55 have threatened
1:07:56 to show to them that's the defeat or the
1:07:58 annihilation
1:07:59 or we take you not our friend not our
1:08:01 friend
1:08:02 away the the exact wording of vernacular
1:08:05 in either case they are coming back to
1:08:07 us it doesn't matter
1:08:09 either we show you what we what we are
1:08:11 threatening to share to
1:08:13 to do to them of punishment or we take
1:08:15 you before that
1:08:16 either case they're all they were coming
1:08:19 back to us
1:08:20 so whatever it is that our fire mecca
1:08:39 either we show you what we are promising
1:08:42 to them or they are threatening to them
1:08:44 or we take you to us your
1:08:47 your function is broadcasting the
1:08:50 message
1:08:51 and accounting is on us punishment and
1:08:54 reward is on us not on you you are just
1:08:56 you are just a pro you are just a
1:08:57 messenger you are just trying to balance
1:08:59 you have to
1:09:00 bring the message you are convicted
1:09:03 of the message and we are the one who
1:09:05 doesn't do the account
1:09:07 and the sort of number 13 remember
1:09:10 number 13.
1:09:12 and then third place is
1:09:27 coming back is to us and allah has
1:09:30 witness over that what they are doing
1:09:34 now interestingly this is
1:09:38 the first one i read this is what offer
1:09:41 is number 40.
1:09:42 this if you look at the sentence
1:09:44 phosphor is
1:09:45 it appears like it's like like the like
1:09:48 the command which came first like a
1:09:50 claps
1:09:51 endure that's addressing someone who has
1:09:54 been number 40 is his
1:09:56 age of 40. that's when he received the
1:09:57 message you have to endure now
1:09:59 that's 40 i know 40 years old and
1:10:01 there's no mission of being witness over
1:10:03 them in the future
1:10:04 let me share with that second one or
1:10:06 there's the
1:10:07 40 so that's the mentioning the age of
1:10:09 the prophet when he received
1:10:10 the message and the second one in surah
1:10:16 it is number 13
1:10:19 it is appears to be the the the way of
1:10:22 the talk is it it
1:10:23 appears to be like a maki time this is
1:10:25 indicating that
1:10:26 you will be going through this phase for
1:10:28 13 years that's the maki time
1:10:30 30 years in mecca and the last one which
1:10:32 mentioned being allah is witness of them
1:10:34 what they do after that
1:10:35 seems to be the final phase which
1:10:37 mentioned the number 10 which is the
1:10:39 surah number 10 which mentioned
1:10:40 which implicitly indicate the 10 years
1:10:43 of medina
1:10:44 so this is the the the life of the 40
1:10:47 years first
1:10:48 then 13 in mecca in medina
1:10:51 it looks like amazing coincidence
1:10:54 and interestingly the order of the sword
1:10:57 is opposite the order obviously of the
1:10:59 revelation under the phases
1:11:01 and it is most likely that's the order
1:11:02 of the revelation also we don't
1:11:04 but by the way you you may you may have
1:11:07 seen in various places various claims
1:11:10 about
1:11:12 about the order of relation this was
1:11:13 revealed this one this is this one this
1:11:15 one this one this one
1:11:16 most of that is not reliable and you
1:11:19 cannot rely on it really
1:11:21 sometimes you know that this surah is
1:11:22 revealed in that time roughly because
1:11:24 we know uh from certain event in the
1:11:27 surah
1:11:27 the time it has come and like for
1:11:29 example hajj it contains
1:11:31 fair verses which are clearly related to
1:11:33 the the time of immigration from
1:11:35 market medina and the arrival in medina
1:11:39 yeah so that's the hajj as well is even
1:11:41 one of the alias it's actually between
1:11:43 makkah and medina
1:11:44 part of it may be on the way on the
1:11:45 medina under in medina
1:11:47 where the permission to fight has come
1:11:50 the first one so it's very early in
1:11:51 medina
1:11:52 we know that but what's before us after
1:11:55 we don't know
1:11:55 i i guess from that order is that really
1:11:58 raphael is ahead
1:11:59 in revelation from a rad and this is
1:12:01 head from eunice
1:12:03 most likely so that's what you read
1:12:05 somewhere that is
1:12:06 the swords are came in that order and so
1:12:08 on you cannot really rely on that
1:12:10 that much but you can guess from that
1:12:12 and you see the order in the most happy
1:12:14 is reversed
1:12:16 the later one which mentioned the ten
1:12:19 last years of the prophet
1:12:20 is the earlier one in the order of the
1:12:22 muslims so the other monster is more
1:12:24 like
1:12:24 order of maybe as we said by the
1:12:26 division of the sahaba
1:12:28 in the code manziel is most likely
1:12:31 more taking care of the size
1:12:34 the the big swallows come first and so
1:12:36 on in essential order that we can
1:12:38 have ones in like three first five
1:12:41 seven nine eleven thirteen and then
1:12:44 fossil i have seven mana management uh
1:12:47 maybe that's that's that that's the way
1:12:49 we don't know there might be
1:12:50 more wisdom in hikmah but
1:12:54 it's not the order of revelation and all
1:12:55 claims that the muslim order of
1:12:57 revelation is just nonsensical
1:13:02 whatsoever it is earth far end of the
1:13:04 quran in the order of the number of
1:13:06 solos
1:13:06 so this has nothing to do really with
1:13:08 any with any order of revelation but the
1:13:10 opposite
1:13:11 maybe now maybe it is almost reversed
1:13:14 it's almost reversed in many places not
1:13:17 not necessary
1:13:18 sometimes it's not so so that's that's
1:13:21 that's an interesting aspect and there
1:13:22 are many other interesting aspects of
1:13:24 of of these numerical
1:13:28 synchronization some of them are
1:13:29 sensitive to the writing the exact
1:13:32 writing and the exact counting and some
1:13:34 are not
1:13:35 but really to to develop this this
1:13:37 science is a is that near
1:13:39 the modern science because for that you
1:13:40 need really computerized
1:13:42 first of all we have to check
1:13:45 what what is the exact writing which was
1:13:48 hopefully in the local maf
1:13:50 metaphorically what is the authentic
1:13:54 writing
1:13:55 secondly what is the the
1:13:58 the alternative method of counting words
1:14:01 and then
1:14:02 uh and and uh
1:14:05 and and let us counter words is
1:14:06 important because where
1:14:08 here in the in in the quran context mean
1:14:11 what is written as one in one connected
1:14:14 but there may be some some problem for
1:14:16 example
1:14:17 and in arabic and the world does not
1:14:20 connect to what comes after it
1:14:22 not like rafa is it does it belong to
1:14:24 the outside or is it a stand-alone word
1:14:28 for example the egyptian way of writing
1:14:32 of of
1:14:33 writing of arabic which is enshrined in
1:14:35 for example microsoft if
1:14:37 you if you want to add arabic for
1:14:39 example i added arabic support
1:14:41 microsoft program microsoft window you
1:14:43 will find this in
1:14:44 egyptian arabic by moroccan arabic saudi
1:14:47 arabia
1:14:48 there are various so-called variations
1:14:50 in the asian arabic the huawei
1:14:52 is regarded as
1:14:57 but that can be easily gleaned from the
1:14:59 quran if you look at the old muslim and
1:15:01 we have some pictures of them and so on
1:15:02 you see that the world is a joint to the
1:15:04 word which comes after that so it's not
1:15:06 a separate word although it is
1:15:08 philologically linguistically it's a
1:15:10 separate word but it is a joint
1:15:12 what we call word in the quran is what's
1:15:14 written in one piece in one in one
1:15:16 in one joint stroke without a separation
1:15:20 that what could could have various
1:15:22 common like for example it could be
1:15:24 composed out to several things one the
1:15:26 longest one and the most composed one is
1:15:28 facade formula
1:15:33 is one word written as one would all
1:15:35 connected
1:15:36 but
1:16:00 would be enough for you against whom
1:16:03 against them
1:16:04 all of that is lumped
1:16:16 although it's composed of various bits
1:16:18 and pieces
1:16:20 so that's that has to be there a
1:16:22 decision has to be made and it must be
1:16:23 consistently or through all of the quran
1:16:26 under all the counts so the wow is
1:16:29 not a stand-alone word although it's
1:16:31 linguistically and
1:16:33 in a matter of philology and the meaning
1:16:35 is a separate one
1:16:36 but it is written with the word after
1:16:38 that and you see that in the oldness i
1:16:39 have
1:16:40 which we have fragments of them here and
1:16:42 there everywhere it is written
1:16:44 a joint through the career so uh
1:16:53 like that so the correct one is that
1:16:55 they called what microsoft called the
1:16:57 saudi or
1:16:58 iraqi arabic i don't know where they get
1:17:00 that invention
1:17:02 there this maybe they're trying to split
1:17:04 the uh another muslim world
1:17:06 by this technique or maybe that's what
1:17:08 they have been told by
1:17:10 by their advisor i don't know anyway but
1:17:12 that's that's it for example that has to
1:17:14 be there so all this decisions has to be
1:17:15 made before
1:17:16 and most importantly is we have to take
1:17:20 say goodbye to the reading of huffs and
1:17:22 the messiah printed according to the
1:17:23 half's
1:17:24 pronunciation because they the count of
1:17:28 eyes is not correct the
1:17:29 the horror of are not consistent and
1:17:32 there are other
1:17:32 issues with that the real the real ones
1:17:34 which have been to refer to is kaloon
1:17:37 and which is widespread in africa so
1:17:41 in this in this regard the african have
1:17:43 got it right this time
1:17:45 i actually allah made it so that it will
1:17:47 be there
1:17:49 and uh and it will be more or less a bit
1:17:52 hidden
1:17:53 behind the prevalent half's reading
1:17:56 for some time until it's time comes and
1:17:58 the time has come now
1:17:59 to really get that this have
1:18:03 for questioning tafsir in the proper
1:18:05 sense it's barely any difference
1:18:07 minimal difference essentially no
1:18:10 difference we can
1:18:11 easily say for example tabari discuss
1:18:13 various readings and explain the meaning
1:18:15 of some ayah
1:18:16 and generally there's no issue
1:18:18 whatsoever of their see level so in the
1:18:20 tab cell we don't need that and they did
1:18:22 not need it in the past
1:18:24 except really in one place or two
1:18:27 scattered here and there
1:18:29 but in in in
1:18:32 in in in
1:18:36 a matter of counting of the eyes and the
1:18:38 swords and the letters and so on
1:18:40 and the the numerical miracles of the
1:18:42 quran i think they said
1:18:43 this has to be done now clearly and in a
1:18:46 consistent way
1:18:47 and i'm doing a bit of that but this
1:18:49 this
1:18:50 scholar in america is
1:18:54 doing some work and his contact with me
1:18:57 uh
1:18:57 unfortunately i was not in contact very
1:18:59 frequent with him because we were busy
1:19:00 with other things
1:19:01 but inshallah i will try to give that
1:19:03 mata a little bit more attention and
1:19:05 and go from there because i think there
1:19:08 are
1:19:09 considerable breakthroughs so we have
1:19:11 this quran in our hand
1:19:13 differently physically in our hand the
1:19:15 writing is physically in front of us
1:19:18 the small variations and issues can be
1:19:20 settled in a consistent internally
1:19:22 consistent
1:19:22 and proper way based on argument and
1:19:25 evidences
1:19:26 internally and externally not based on
1:19:28 unjust desire
1:19:29 and an attempt to fix something and then
1:19:31 based on that
1:19:32 once it is defined properly and fixed
1:19:36 then it can be expanded to other areas
1:19:40 of of in the overall order for example
1:19:42 this scholarly america has invented a
1:19:44 way of ordering uh
1:19:46 the letters of the the letters of the
1:19:48 alphabet in a certain way and giving
1:19:50 them numerical
1:19:51 values not the classical abstract how
1:19:53 was
1:19:54 the jewish one not that one another one
1:19:58 the guy he was guided by certain
1:20:00 consideration about the language of adam
1:20:02 and so on but also
1:20:03 internal consistency of the quran and
1:20:05 medicine out and said numerical
1:20:07 that has to be that has to be further
1:20:10 polished and scrutinized
1:20:11 that he appeals to the language of adam
1:20:13 being arabic or not arabic i don't think
1:20:15 this is
1:20:16 that's not that's not necessary for this
1:20:18 for this uh
1:20:19 for this uh uh definition of this order
1:20:23 and the numbering i look at
1:20:24 that is not necessary and based on this
1:20:26 numbering certain interesting things
1:20:28 uh uh as has been found in the quran
1:20:32 he has found already but i think that
1:20:34 has to be reviewed again
1:20:36 and uh scrutinized further and checked
1:20:39 with this fair fundamental principle
1:20:41 that it that it becomes unattackable
1:20:46 because i think he is most likely going
1:20:48 out for again from
1:20:49 the reading of hafsan azim and there's
1:20:52 they will
1:20:52 there may be issues of counting the
1:20:54 letters
1:20:55 and and it's very important to have
1:20:58 these issues
1:20:59 cleaned and and
1:21:03 out of the way before we we claim any
1:21:05 miraculous
1:21:06 coincidences and as i said in a
1:21:08 consistent and
1:21:09 undisputable way otherwise it's not it's
1:21:13 not correct and not persuasive
1:21:15 let me give an example counting like for
1:21:17 example we count the letter as
1:21:18 as written in the authoritative writing
1:21:21 of the
1:21:22 muslim like bismillah is 90 letters
1:21:25 there's no issue about that
1:21:26 like forgot let us see uh there are
1:21:28 certain issues like
1:21:29 we said we discussed casually after that
1:21:33 that there will hack for example we have
1:21:35 to count the cough as as two
1:21:36 to get a number 19. it looks like fixing
1:21:39 by hand playing by hand
1:21:40 but we have to do it in a consistent
1:21:42 principle the consistent principle is
1:21:44 that
1:21:44 hak is already but this has to apply for
1:21:47 the
1:21:48 hatta has to be then that has to be
1:21:51 counter two because hatata
1:21:52 the original of it and the same would
1:21:54 either anna
1:21:55 and thumb etc so we have to sit on that
1:21:59 i have i will hopefully shall i
1:22:01 communicate with him so we can develop
1:22:02 that into a consistent
1:22:05 internally consistent non-contradictory
1:22:07 and fixed process
1:22:09 based on that based on having really the
1:22:12 text of the
1:22:13 soda so we will what is needed is really
1:22:16 to have the text of the must have free
1:22:17 from all tashkeelat
1:22:19 with the dots that's not the dots of the
1:22:21 letters
1:22:22 has to be distinguished that's not
1:22:24 question about that and uh according to
1:22:26 uh
1:22:26 to uh uh the the the correct
1:22:30 reading which is the reading as you said
1:22:33 the preferred reading that's the reader
1:22:34 of columns with some dots may be
1:22:36 different like
1:22:37 but whatever you know that could be
1:22:39 making difference in the letters we have
1:22:41 to make a decision there
1:22:42 also that we have to balance that out
1:22:47 so based on that
1:22:50 if that's done then the machinery of the
1:22:52 calculation can can be
1:22:54 let loose and then we may find i mean
1:22:56 amazing coincidences and other things
1:22:58 which
1:22:58 nobody ever expected before so i think
1:23:01 that's uh
1:23:02 that's that's a project by itself uh
1:23:05 although it has
1:23:06 little direct influence to the tabs here
1:23:09 except in the meaning that
1:23:10 to prove and establish beyond any
1:23:13 possible doubt with absolution
1:23:15 that the text we are discussing and
1:23:16 trying to analyze the meaning of it
1:23:18 is a divine text it's worthy of the
1:23:21 effort and whether you're sitting on it
1:23:23 it is not just we are assuming we are
1:23:25 proving we are proving this to be the
1:23:27 or divine origin i think we for today i
1:23:29 think it is enough for today
1:23:31 and then we maybe we start with tafsir
1:23:34 next week
1:23:34 with the help we will go from there
1:23:38 i think this enough for these basic
1:23:42 issues about this writing and the
1:23:43 structure of the quran so
1:23:45 it's basic that's all basic this is all
1:23:47 by itself is a is a complete science by
1:23:49 itself
1:23:50 and a complete project by itself okay so
1:23:53 we stop here in charlotte see if there's
1:23:54 any questions and then
1:23:56 we go from there uh just the one
1:23:58 question came through
1:23:59 okay it was uh what was the reason of
1:24:02 removing bismillah from surah
1:24:04 and the evidence forum we don't know it
1:24:07 is it is not in swat tower it's not
1:24:09 anywhere in the muslim the people were
1:24:11 speculating i said i mentioned the joke
1:24:13 of the
1:24:14 people in nash teasing the kids why why
1:24:17 is the
1:24:18 bismillah missing in the sort of tawba
1:24:20 and
1:24:21 the lemon the ant went at night and ate
1:24:24 it away
1:24:26 okay that's obviously that's not no no
1:24:28 some people say because it has come with
1:24:29 the sword or the threat to the
1:24:30 mushrikeen it's not good service
1:24:33 it's not nice to start with the mercy
1:24:36 that's that's what people were
1:24:37 speculating that's just the way they
1:24:40 were dictated by
1:24:42 and that's the way he gave it to alibaba
1:24:44 he went joining abu bakr in the
1:24:46 ninth year for uh for for the hajj uh
1:24:49 abu bakr was the commander of the hajj
1:24:51 on behalf of the protestant salam which
1:24:53 is by the way
1:24:54 a very strong nomination not just
1:25:11 he showed like a nomination the deputy
1:25:13 of the prophet
1:25:14 and ali was the broadcaster of the
1:25:16 message
1:25:18 and that he sent him with barack the
1:25:20 beginning of
1:25:21 without peace that's what has happened
1:25:24 we don't know the people may speculate
1:25:26 what's it the same the people are
1:25:28 speculating about these
1:25:30 what they mean means we know the cough
1:25:34 may be
1:25:35 relating to the cough in that surah and
1:25:37 the number of 19 maybe maybe the others
1:25:39 are having some
1:25:40 ethical issues and maybe some meaning
1:25:42 issues
1:25:44 we have for example speculating that
1:25:48 we know that many egyptians especially
1:25:50 in egypt
1:25:52 many men are called taha because they
1:25:53 believe the name of the prophet
1:25:59 meaning o man o man because taha is in
1:26:03 in in syriac seem to be meaning man or
1:26:06 something like that
1:26:07 there's so many speculations about these
1:26:08 things and uh
1:26:12 the quran has kept few secrets to be
1:26:14 detected in in the future and there are
1:26:16 few
1:26:16 maybe three four places which are so so
1:26:20 so difficult and dark uh until now it's
1:26:23 very difficult to get
1:26:24 grip with the meaning of them but but if
1:26:26 we know this from allah with certitude
1:26:28 we know that some here something is
1:26:31 coded there maybe for its appropriate
1:26:32 time
1:26:34 so it would be detected and exposed in
1:26:36 its appropriate time but we'll come to
1:26:37 some of these in the future inshallah
1:26:39 but why the bosmana is omitted there
1:26:41 obviously we have a narration
1:26:43 that uh uh
1:26:46 uh narration claim some people claim
1:26:49 it's with hassan it's not
1:26:51 what shows that is this not if it is
1:26:52 that hassan technically
1:26:55 must there must be some some disease
1:26:56 there definitely because it says
1:26:58 uh someone asked why
1:27:01 how come that you have written written
1:27:06 and then the story claims that utman
1:27:08 said because
1:27:10 the prophet died without telling us what
1:27:12 is it
1:27:13 was one of the last which is a lie it's
1:27:15 not true
1:27:29 explain to us and the story looks like
1:27:32 sort of
1:27:33 look at the absurdity slaughter and fall
1:27:36 and
1:27:36 then i decided to write it behind it and
1:27:39 follow without the separation of
1:27:41 this okay this is this is just
1:27:43 fabricated it can't
1:27:51 that's the way that's the way we have
1:27:53 received from the prophet we are not
1:27:54 going to change anything with it
1:27:55 that's the correct answer that's what
1:27:57 they said so that's what it's not
1:27:59 hassan i have to scratch that it's not
1:28:01 one day and show who is the liar
1:28:02 or maybe there's something at least a
1:28:04 man has been dropped was a liar
1:28:06 or trying to invent something from his
1:28:07 imagination and try to explain something
1:28:10 which is explanation symbol that's the
1:28:11 way the prophet gave it to us
1:28:13 and that's it and
1:28:16 you could you could explain that said
1:28:17 this it has dropped right there
1:28:19 specifically
1:28:20 because it is the phrase wanted it to be
1:28:23 9 times 6 in the quran 114 times but
1:28:26 there is one gun already in mecca
1:28:29 because
1:28:33 so one one of this has to be missing
1:28:36 so that that phrase is 114 times in the
1:28:39 quran exactly
1:28:41 that's that's also a good answer there's
1:28:43 a better answer than this
1:28:44 this nonsense of that uh the story is
1:28:47 similar to surivan
1:28:48 sorry when the file has nothing to do
1:28:50 with the story yeah and fantasy
1:28:51 is the relating to war issues and so on
1:28:53 but this is about better
1:28:55 and this about the mostly about the
1:28:57 declaration of the world
1:28:58 about the remainder of the muslim what
1:29:00 has this to do with anfan
1:29:02 it's it's it's related to war and so on
1:29:04 but also
1:29:05 has a good section about work and peace
1:29:08 even more stronger than that
1:29:10 so this is this is uh this narration is
1:29:13 definitely fabricated
1:29:14 even if there's not look at face value
1:29:16 for the first ride hassan
1:29:18 most likely there is some ander and anna
1:29:21 and this most likely some models
1:29:23 have dropped a liar in between or one of
1:29:25 their guys there is a liar
1:29:27 either one of them in the chain
1:29:29 apparently in the shenanigar
1:29:30 or one of these from a man in between
1:29:33 has been dropped
1:29:35 which which is called telis and that man
1:29:37 is untrustworthy
1:29:38 that's the only explanation if all the
1:29:41 others are reliable and trustworthy
1:29:43 so that's that's that's what is
1:29:44 definitely not true this this uh
1:29:47 even if they start this hassle not
1:29:48 everything
1:29:51 ends is hadith all this should be
1:29:53 normally but it's not every
1:29:55 there are cases where is not looks
1:29:59 impeccable but the end hadith is
1:30:02 fabricated is not true
1:30:06 so that's we don't know we don't know
1:30:08 what anyway well we can't speculate
1:30:10 i would i would say i i am more inclined
1:30:13 to
1:30:14 to say that it's uh allah wanted us to
1:30:17 have bismillah
1:30:18 again 19 exactly like the number of the
1:30:22 the number of the surahs that's 9 times
1:30:25 6
1:30:25 9 times 2 19 times 2 times 3 that's 19
1:30:28 which is 114
1:30:30 but one was already revealed in mecca
1:30:33 in and then one has to be missing from
1:30:36 the
1:30:36 front of the so the the 19 system
1:30:40 the system of the number 19 is not
1:30:42 spoiled
1:30:43 and the only way that is to take it away
1:30:45 from the beginning of one soul
1:30:47 and the most appropriate soul to be
1:30:49 taken away is full of
1:30:50 uh sword
1:30:53 is opening with the declaration of war
1:30:55 it does not it does not
1:30:57 it doesn't have the taste to be started
1:30:59 with it with the rahmah
1:31:00 sallallahu
1:31:06 that's this that's the best maybe what
1:31:07 can be spoken but we don't know what
1:31:09 allah intended
1:31:10 we can only speculate
1:31:14 good so that's the best what we can
1:31:19 claim at this level
1:31:23 okay there's uh one more question sure
1:31:25 that was uh
1:31:27 estafique of the different could have
1:31:29 permitted when reciting quran and the
1:31:30 prayer
1:31:34 of the different i don't know that word
1:31:38 meaning reading a little bit of this a
1:31:40 little bit of this according to this one
1:31:42 yeah it's perfectly
1:31:43 expensive you have the permission we
1:31:45 will discuss that issue of these
1:31:48 i am inclined really to discount all
1:31:50 these hadith which claim that you can
1:31:52 read by meaning and so on
1:31:54 and and explain the story or where the
1:32:11 words it may be something similar to
1:32:13 that whatever
1:32:14 omar was disgusted
1:32:17 instead of saying this is not quran did
1:32:20 not come with a language
1:32:22 read like quraish it is not like
1:32:24 changing the letters in that thing that
1:32:26 he felt is disgusting i feel also
1:32:28 discussing turning and
1:32:29 trying it's just intolerable but most
1:32:33 likely that's permitted that was the
1:32:34 permission
1:32:35 so that transformation there's no no no
1:32:38 no
1:32:38 no an indication in the permission uh
1:32:41 that you
1:32:43 that you you should stick to one reader
1:32:45 or one one narrator or one style
1:32:47 you can combine as as you wish as
1:32:50 convenient but it's a permission
1:32:51 for for your own convenience to take
1:32:55 consideration of your linguistic
1:32:57 handicaps like for example if you are
1:32:59 from yemen or egypt
1:33:00 the egyptian yemeni have difficulty
1:33:02 pronouncing the gym
1:33:03 like they will not say jiban except they
1:33:05 are do it deliberately and intentionally
1:33:07 they say gabal
1:33:09 and so on so it's okay read kebab
1:33:12 there's no problem i think
1:33:12 until now it's very visible i don't
1:33:14 think although no one of the
1:33:16 famous leader of neither the seven or
1:33:18 the ten another fourteen did without
1:33:19 the with this guff with the sega
1:33:22 egyptian gulf or the america
1:33:24 but i think it's is this included in the
1:33:26 in the uh
1:33:27 in that half i think this is when the
1:33:29 permission is there or something died
1:33:30 and the permission is there
1:33:33 because the man made this they had that
1:33:34 he wanted to reduce that permission as
1:33:36 much as possible to the quraysh dialect
1:33:38 to reduce the conflicts and so on but he
1:33:41 was also resisted and
1:33:42 people criticizing him for that although
1:33:44 i think what he did is
1:33:46 is is better is better
1:33:49 because the the the reason for this
1:33:51 permission
1:33:52 was has become a little bit easy and the
1:33:55 people have mixed together the moment
1:33:56 people mix for example
1:33:58 if an egyptian come to arabia and mix
1:33:59 with the people also then
1:34:01 slowly he would be able to do the gym
1:34:03 and so on so
1:34:05 but in principle there's no no problem
1:34:08 in
1:34:08 in in in do the pronunciation which you
1:34:11 work
1:34:13 you are able to pronounce that's
1:34:14 permitted and they have actually once
1:34:16 one time
1:34:16 were in the masjid my father and there
1:34:19 was a bid when reading something
1:34:21 and he was reading it in an odd way and
1:34:23 we tried myself and my father to correct
1:34:25 him he was unable to pronounce it
1:34:27 so my father said leave him this one of
1:34:29 the arabs
1:34:30 said him in his half so
1:34:33 it can happen nothing now since some
1:34:35 people are talking that they're
1:34:37 grown in a remote area and it's very
1:34:39 difficult for them to change
1:34:42 to twist their tongue in the way you
1:34:44 would like to to be in the more perfect
1:34:46 way that's generally so
1:34:49 who said that you have to stick to one
1:34:51 reader you can you can change
1:34:52 you can you can although sometimes it's
1:34:55 done like for sure if it's not nice like
1:34:56 for
1:34:57 some some memorize the quran when they
1:34:59 read
1:35:00 they read the same ayat twice or read an
1:35:03 ayah
1:35:03 in one quran another is to show off that
1:35:05 i am master of quran
1:35:07 i don't think this is nice if it's sure
1:35:10 off then it will
1:35:11 it will it will it's not good it will
1:35:14 mess up your throw up unless you want to
1:35:17 educate the people sometimes it's good
1:35:19 for example
1:35:20 if you are in morocco that tell the
1:35:21 people there is another variation of
1:35:23 reading
1:35:25 other other people will be shocked
1:35:40 what's going on even in fatiha maliki
1:35:43 madinah and maliki ahmed
1:35:45 we will maybe get annoyed if you say
1:35:47 america with your oldest
1:35:48 this is the preferred kara not malik not
1:35:51 the house one
1:35:52 the worship one and most leader
1:35:55 all of them read malik exactly like the
1:35:58 writing
1:35:58 so it should be that should be the
1:36:00 preferred one
1:36:02 but it's okay is no problem unless it's
1:36:05 show off show off will be
1:36:06 will reduce your throw up but sometimes
1:36:08 it's educational
1:36:11 suitability is okay there's no
1:36:14 injunction on the new shariah injunction
1:36:16 that
1:36:16 it's you should stick to only one
1:36:18 reading
1:36:20 or one variation no
1:36:24 it should be should be taken at ease
1:36:27 as it comes at ease unless you are
1:36:29 having an educational purpose
1:36:31 or if someone have bad intention of
1:36:33 showing off that i am a master of color
1:36:35 that's that's bad that's bad for him but
1:36:37 it doesn't make it
1:36:38 invalid or or make salah invalid or
1:36:40 anything like that
1:36:42 but we'll reduce his throat because we
1:36:43 should not be showing off this
1:36:45 this way
1:36:50 sultan feet is okay no problem i don't
1:36:52 see any problem
1:36:54 there's no sharia injection no no no
1:36:56 solid claim that
1:36:57 you have to stick to one in a salah or
1:37:00 in
1:37:01 a reading session actually most
1:37:04 leader recital in weddings and so on
1:37:07 when they come
1:37:08 they read maybe three four hours and
1:37:10 they go back to the eyes in another
1:37:11 reading
1:37:12 at their leading fourth reading and so
1:37:14 on and the people in egypt especially
1:37:16 like that
1:37:17 this is the tradition of of indulging in
1:37:21 that
1:37:22 maybe a little bit excessively but still
1:37:24 there's no injection against that
1:37:29 and will be quite educational so it's
1:37:32 not bad
1:37:35 good okay we should uh
1:37:39 wrap it up today then aim for the same
1:37:42 next week in general
1:37:45 you probably should has finished
1:37:51 Music
1:38:00 inshallah