Londoniyyah - Part 18 - Proof of Prophethood / 1 (2022-03-07) ​
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Summary of Londoniyyah - Part 18 - Proof of Prophethood / 1 ​
*This summary is AI generated - there may be inaccuracies.
00:00:00 - 01:00:00 ​
discusses the necessary conditions for prophethood and revelation, explaining that these conditions must be met in order for something to be considered a prophecy or revelation. The presenter also discusses probabilistic reasoning, using examples from everyday life to illustrate the point.
00:00:00 the presenter discusses the necessary conditions for prophethood and revelation, explaining that these conditions must be met in order for something to be considered a prophecy or revelation. The presenter also discusses probabilistic reasoning, using examples from everyday life to illustrate the point.
- *00:05:00 Discusses the necessity of certain conditions for a revelation to be from God, which include internal and external consistency. It states that, although these conditions are not found in the Old and New Testaments, they are found in the Quran. It goes on to say that, even though there are disagreements among Muslims about various Quranic doctrines, no such disagreements exist about the Quran's basic contents.
- 00:10:00 reviews the necessary and sufficient conditions for revelation, discussing the arguments for and against the Quran's preservation. He goes on to discuss extra Quranic evidence, which some Salafists mistakenly interpret as evidence that the Quran is not preserved. He concludes that the Quran is preserved and that the evidence for this is overwhelming.
- 00:15:00 The prophet Muhammad was a trustworthy and successful man before he received revelation, and he refused material possessions and power in order to pursue worship of only one God. After his migration to Medina, many people were able to see his success and recognize his message of only worshipping Allah alone. Near the end of his life, he was able to unite the Arabs under one banner and be recognized as a successful leader.
- *00:20:00 Discusses the character of Prophet Muhammad, his life before prophethood, his Message, and how his Message was consistent throughout his life of persecution. It also points out that his prophethood was protected by God from indulging in worldly things.
- 00:25:00 Prophet Muhammad's life and teachings are summarized. He was a trusted and truthful leader, husband, and father. He was also a successful businessman.
- *00:30:00 Discusses how the prophet Muhammad was an orphan, and how this makes him more humanized. It also mentions that he married a woman who was older than him.
- 00:35:00 the narrator discusses some of the characteristics of Prophet Muhammad's life before he claimed prophethood. He notes that Prophet Muhammad had a meditative temperament, was sensitive to the way people got along, and rejected material gain in favor of spiritual gain. He also mentions that Prophet Muhammad's wife, Aisha, said that they lived on water and dates during the Medinan period, and that Prophet Muhammad rejected material gain in favor of spiritual gain.
- *00:40:00 Discusses the Prophet Muhammad's character, which was seen as trustworthy and polite by his peers. It also discusses his military and political successes.
- 00:45:00 The narrator discusses how Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was an exemplary example of living a frugal life, having impeccable manners and being humble. He also points out that his engagement in warfare only occurred before he was persecuted, and this is evidence of his prophethood.
- *00:50:00 Discusses how the prophet Muhammad was rejected violently by his people but gained leadership through popular support. It also mentions that he put in place constitutional protections for minority groups, including Jews. This is in contrast to the situation in Britain, where Muslims do not have similar protections.
- *00:55:00 Discusses how Islam is the most anti-racist religion in the face of the earth, and that racism is not found in any of the scriptures of any ancient world religion. It also discusses how Prophet Muhammad married a jewish woman and gave her words to say to defend herself which would exalt her ethnic status if he were such an anti-semite.
01:00:00 - 01:10:00 ​
discusses the character of Prophet Muhammad and how his actions indicate that he was a true prophet. It encourages Muslims to be careful in their preaching and teaching of Muhammad, and to make sure that their arguments are based on sound evidence.
*01:00:00 Discusses the case of Salahuddin ibn Muhammad, who could have conquered Jerusalem but instead chose to pursue peace treaties. He argues that this is a sign of the prophet's impeccable character.
- *01:05:00 Discusses the Prophet Muhammad's prayers, which were long and difficult. It also discusses the Prophet's wives and how they were able to cooperate and uphold the lie that he prayed one third of the night. This level of motivation is not possible for a human being, which suggests that an imposter must have been involved in promoting this story.
- *01:10:00 Discusses the character of Prophet Muhammad, discussing how his life and actions indicatethis man's authenticity as a prophet. It encourages Muslims to be on point in their preaching and teaching of Muhammad, and to make sure that their arguments are based on sound evidence.
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0:00:11 and welcome to another episode or
0:00:12 another session of a londoner today
0:00:15 we're going to go on to revelation and
0:00:17 the prophets which are two things we
0:00:19 need to establish as muslims now just to
0:00:21 remember or to remind ourselves of what
0:00:23 we covered in the previous session we
0:00:25 spoke about god's existence we went
0:00:27 through some arguments namely the
0:00:30 contingency argument today we're going
0:00:32 to be trying to establish
0:00:34 uh the prophethood of prophet muhammad
0:00:37 and the truth of the quran
0:00:39 which is a very stable part obviously of
0:00:41 the
0:00:42 of the objective because we're not just
0:00:43 trying to get people to believe in one
0:00:45 god
0:00:46 but the fact that the prophet
0:00:48 muhammad was actually a true prophet and
0:00:51 also that the quran is the final
0:00:53 revelation revealed to mankind but for
0:00:56 that we need evidence and obviously
0:00:58 today we're going to be going through
0:00:59 some of those evidences so the first
0:01:01 thing we're going to be going through is
0:01:02 some categories
0:01:04 now one distinction that should be kind
0:01:06 of thought of is the
0:01:08 sufficient slash necessary
0:01:11 conditions
0:01:12 distinction and i'll tell you what i
0:01:14 mean by that
0:01:15 if i say
0:01:16 something is required as a as a
0:01:18 necessary condition i mean that if it's
0:01:20 not there then the condition can never
0:01:22 be met or that the thing can never be
0:01:24 made in and of itself for example
0:01:26 if i say that if i wanted to get married
0:01:29 and uh
0:01:31 you know it's necessary for for another
0:01:33 human being namely a female to be there
0:01:36 that's a necessary condition otherwise i
0:01:38 can't be married however for it to be a
0:01:40 sufficient condition
0:01:41 in order for my marriage to count
0:01:43 islamically speaking for example there
0:01:45 has to be for example like you know two
0:01:47 witnesses and the maha has to be then
0:01:49 the well he has to be there
0:01:51 so the the existence of the woman
0:01:54 is a necessary condition but it's not a
0:01:56 sufficient condition because otherwise
0:01:57 it would be a boyfriend girlfriend
0:01:58 relationship
0:02:00 uh you know obviously which is not
0:02:02 allowed in islam i'm giving an islamic
0:02:03 example obviously you guys can
0:02:04 understand it but for it to be a
0:02:06 sufficient condition i have to fulfill
0:02:08 the other criterion or the pillars of
0:02:10 nikach
0:02:11 there which are the three pillars
0:02:13 namely the
0:02:14 you know the the
0:02:16 the two witnesses and the weli if these
0:02:18 three things are
0:02:20 met then marriage is done okay and
0:02:22 obviously her consent that that and your
0:02:24 consent and that's
0:02:25 taking that into consideration
0:02:28 um
0:02:29 now these are conditions
0:02:32 these are sufficient and necessary
0:02:33 conditions
0:02:34 now we're going to go through
0:02:37 some
0:02:38 necessary conditions but many of you
0:02:39 already know them so we're going to go
0:02:41 through them quickly
0:02:42 for revelation what are the necessary
0:02:44 conditions and we're going to go through
0:02:46 the sufficient conditions when we talk
0:02:48 about sufficient conditions now
0:02:50 we are going to be referring to
0:02:52 a different kind of framework
0:02:54 like when we were arguing for god's
0:02:56 existence we were
0:02:58 arguing deductively sometimes from first
0:03:00 principles with this is a little bit
0:03:02 different because now we're going to
0:03:03 argue
0:03:05 probabilistically
0:03:06 probabilistically meaning
0:03:09 we are going to infer
0:03:12 to the best explanation and this is
0:03:13 referred to as abductive reasoning
0:03:16 it's inference to the best explanation
0:03:18 when you make an inference to the best
0:03:20 explanation this is called abductive
0:03:22 reasoning
0:03:23 and and this is a kind of probabilistic
0:03:26 uh rationalization and most of the
0:03:28 things we do
0:03:29 includes this level of what you call
0:03:31 epistemic
0:03:33 probabilistic reasoning
0:03:35 so things that you've done today
0:03:36 everything that you've done today almost
0:03:38 everything
0:03:40 kind of implies that like when you woke
0:03:42 up and then you you you stood up you
0:03:44 know you went to the toilet or whatever
0:03:46 you did
0:03:46 you know had a shower press the button
0:03:48 for the shower you oh this is gonna work
0:03:51 you know
0:03:51 uh
0:03:52 you went into the car you started
0:03:54 driving the car this is gonna work why
0:03:55 because this worked yesterday's work
0:03:57 today before she wasn't a car then you
0:03:59 know on the trees sat there waiting for
0:04:01 the train or waiting for whatever
0:04:03 this is going to happen it's going to
0:04:04 come there's a train there you believe
0:04:06 that otherwise you wouldn't be seeing
0:04:07 there imagine if people didn't believe
0:04:09 that trains were coming where they sit
0:04:10 in the bus stop what kind of fools would
0:04:11 they be you know it's so we employ a
0:04:14 probabilistic reasoning
0:04:16 in life without having to do any kind of
0:04:19 total probability uh actual calculations
0:04:22 we don't sit there and say
0:04:24 well actually what's uh on a bay a base
0:04:26 theory or
0:04:29 total probability mathematical theory
0:04:31 what's the chances that this will happen
0:04:32 like sometimes we do that maybe when
0:04:34 people gamble they do that but otherwise
0:04:36 they don't really do that people live
0:04:37 their life
0:04:39 using epistemic probability and using
0:04:41 that they come to conclusions almost
0:04:44 intuitive
0:04:45 you know without reference to anything
0:04:46 else
0:04:47 in their day-to-day life they're going
0:04:49 you go on your phone you call somebody
0:04:51 oh you expect someone to answer or not
0:04:53 you expect there to be a connection or
0:04:55 not you expect when you go on a plane
0:04:57 for you not to crash even though there
0:04:58 are some chances that you will crash
0:05:00 you when you were in this building right
0:05:01 now we're expecting the building to stay
0:05:03 upright
0:05:04 although obviously the lights have
0:05:05 switched off
0:05:06 and maybe we expected the lights to stay
0:05:08 on
0:05:10 you know and so on you know that
0:05:12 so
0:05:13 what we're saying is that we use this
0:05:15 kind of reasoning
0:05:16 now in terms of necessary conditions
0:05:19 it's really interesting
0:05:20 it's very very interesting
0:05:22 that the quran is the only ancient
0:05:24 religious text that i know of
0:05:26 that even has a verse relating to
0:05:30 falsification and
0:05:32 with respect to contradictions
0:05:38 if it was from other than god they would
0:05:39 have found in many contradictions
0:05:42 so the first thing is a necessary
0:05:44 condition for something to be from god
0:05:47 which is the all-knowing as we've
0:05:48 described before when we said that god
0:05:50 is the all-knowing he's the one he's the
0:05:52 powerful etc
0:05:53 if something is the source of it is the
0:05:55 all-knowing god it cannot have
0:05:57 contradictions now the idea that
0:06:00 something that is from an all-knowing
0:06:02 god should not have contradictions the
0:06:04 the challenge doesn't come anywhere
0:06:05 except for the it's not in the old
0:06:06 testament it's not in the new testament
0:06:09 and it's not in the bhagavad-gita it's
0:06:10 not in the ggs it's nowhere to be found
0:06:12 only in the quran
0:06:15 it's as if the quran at least
0:06:16 acknowledges that if a revelation is to
0:06:19 be from god it has to be internally and
0:06:22 externally consistent
0:06:24 because this would be undermining the
0:06:25 knowledge
0:06:27 the supposed knowledge the perfect
0:06:29 knowledge of god
0:06:30 if
0:06:31 there is not internal consistency to a
0:06:34 perfect degree
0:06:35 so the quran challenges people to find
0:06:37 contradictions within the book
0:06:40 moreover in addition to that the quran
0:06:43 must be preserved
0:06:45 it has to be preserved the access of the
0:06:48 original
0:06:49 people to the quran has to be the same
0:06:52 access that we have otherwise they would
0:06:54 have a preferential
0:06:56 access to guidance than we do
0:06:58 and if the quran is meant to be for all
0:07:00 peoples in all times or if the guidance
0:07:02 the final revelation
0:07:04 yeah is meant to be for all peoples in
0:07:06 all times
0:07:07 then it has to be accessible
0:07:09 to all peoples in all times in its
0:07:11 purest and completest forms
0:07:14 someone will say what about people that
0:07:15 have not been introduced to the quran we
0:07:16 know theologically they're not judged in
0:07:18 the same way people that have been
0:07:20 islamically introduced to the quran and
0:07:22 sunnah and then they reject it have a
0:07:24 different ruling altogether an
0:07:25 eschatological ruling
0:07:27 to those who have not been like in the
0:07:28 aboriginal jungle i don't know where
0:07:30 where you know this place or that place
0:07:33 or forest or
0:07:34 even even even those individuals who
0:07:36 live within muslim sorry
0:07:40 western societies who have wrong
0:07:42 understandings of islam well the only
0:07:44 exposure they have to islam is a false
0:07:46 understanding to islam um
0:07:50 we were not going to punish a people
0:07:51 until we sent them a
0:07:53 messenger prophets
0:07:54 or messengers so this is to say that if
0:07:58 people are not given such messengers and
0:08:00 the message has not received to the
0:08:02 person then they should not be judged in
0:08:04 the same way as someone who has
0:08:07 so the access point has to be the same
0:08:09 so preservation and internal
0:08:11 external consistency must be
0:08:14 they must be
0:08:15 prerequisites and necessary conditions
0:08:18 for a revelation to be from god now bear
0:08:20 in mind
0:08:21 these conditions which are necessary
0:08:23 conditions
0:08:25 are not to be found in the old testament
0:08:27 or the new testament by the admission of
0:08:28 the scholars almost the consensus by the
0:08:31 way
0:08:32 the consensus of christian scholars
0:08:35 this is and this is a big thing to
0:08:37 mention
0:08:38 almost a consensus agree now in biblical
0:08:41 scholarship we call text criticism that
0:08:43 the bible is completely interpolated and
0:08:45 fabricated and there's layers of there's
0:08:48 layers of fabrication interpolation
0:08:50 from athanasius in the fourth century
0:08:52 who is the one who put all the the books
0:08:55 together
0:08:56 all the way through
0:08:57 to
0:08:58 the newest translations of the bible the
0:09:00 new international version the vice
0:09:01 standard version the king james version
0:09:03 this that whatever all of these have
0:09:05 different very variants contradictory
0:09:08 variants what to include what to exclude
0:09:10 we don't have the same we have so many
0:09:11 controversies in islam
0:09:13 it remains the case that with all of the
0:09:16 sects in islam that oppose each other
0:09:20 no sects the the sects in islam don't
0:09:23 are not fighting over what the quran is
0:09:25 you don't find dior bandis and bravis
0:09:27 and salafis and sufis attacking each
0:09:29 other this is the quran this is not the
0:09:31 quran they fight about everything else
0:09:33 but they agree on what the quran is
0:09:34 correct
0:09:35 have you ever seen a controversy no
0:09:38 whoever comes out with something is
0:09:39 usually outcast and thrown out lord yes
0:09:42 if if someone comes out this is not the
0:09:44 quran the outcasts are thrown away
0:09:45 simple as that
0:09:47 the even with all the controversies in
0:09:49 islam this is not one of them
0:09:51 it's not one of them
0:09:53 we have kirat yes we have different
0:09:55 variations or whatever these are all
0:09:57 which are agreed upon yeah they are
0:09:58 agreed upon
0:10:00 and so
0:10:02 having said that now
0:10:04 that so we said on the
0:10:06 on the two points on the two points
0:10:08 which are necessary conditions
0:10:11 for revelation to be from god
0:10:13 these two points which are necessary
0:10:14 conditions are not even found in the
0:10:16 other religions
0:10:18 origin of alexandria
0:10:21 who wrote a book called on first
0:10:22 principles and in the back of his book i
0:10:24 remember reading this for the first time
0:10:26 the butterworth translation
0:10:28 he was referring to the very first page
0:10:31 of the old testament
0:10:33 and it says on the first day obviously
0:10:34 god created the night and the day on the
0:10:36 fourth day
0:10:37 he created the luminaries
0:10:39 and he was saying what man of
0:10:40 intelligence would believe that the the
0:10:43 night and day was created the first day
0:10:44 and the luminaries were created on the
0:10:46 fourth
0:10:48 how could there be night and day without
0:10:49 the luminaries
0:10:52 it's what he said
0:10:53 he said this is why we have to accept
0:10:55 the
0:10:56 the uh this is why we have to look at
0:10:59 the the old testament or the bible in a
0:11:02 spiritual sense and by that he means
0:11:03 metaphor metaphorize it
0:11:06 in in the book of genesis chapter 1
0:11:07 verse 11
0:11:09 on the third day
0:11:10 you had vegetation
0:11:12 which is the you know the herbig and so
0:11:14 on being created by god apparently right
0:11:17 but in in genesis chapter two verse five
0:11:20 which is the next chapter
0:11:22 you you you see that no it's quote no
0:11:26 plant had sprung up yet that's what it
0:11:28 said so were there plants or were there
0:11:30 not plants
0:11:32 recently william lane craig
0:11:34 he put in his uh
0:11:36 reasonable faith
0:11:38 he was saying this is his quote
0:11:39 something to the effect of
0:11:41 it seemed like the author of the bible
0:11:42 didn't care if there were contradictions
0:11:43 or not
0:11:44 when i told him that he said that he
0:11:46 tried refuting me and said well you know
0:11:48 or he wrote it down you know he tried to
0:11:50 refute me recently yeah he said well if
0:11:52 i really wanted to i can see where the
0:11:53 follies of the quran and the
0:11:54 contradictions they're in i'm waiting to
0:11:57 find
0:11:58 a way to see this
0:11:59 he this is what he said
0:12:01 it's like saying well i'll get my dad on
0:12:03 you you know
0:12:04 okay just bring the bring bring the beef
0:12:05 you know whatever just give me the give
0:12:07 me the evidence instead of telling me i
0:12:09 could do it if i wanted to
0:12:11 even though his whole career was based
0:12:12 on
0:12:14 basically you know his whole career if
0:12:16 he would if he was not there
0:12:18 it would be a necessary condition for
0:12:19 him to be who he is today
0:12:22 not even sufficient
0:12:23 so
0:12:25 and obviously he wrote a book called
0:12:28 i'm not sure if you know this book but
0:12:29 he basically said that all his arguments
0:12:31 although all these were he was not all
0:12:33 his arguments but he's bringing
0:12:35 the quran and saying this these are the
0:12:37 logical arguments in the quran
0:12:39 it's called christian he says look this
0:12:41 is a logical argument
0:12:43 his whole point the point of the book
0:12:44 was to show the logical arguments in the
0:12:46 quran
0:12:49 which acted as a basis for ghazalis
0:12:51 everything that begins with this has a
0:12:52 cause the universe has begun to say
0:12:53 foreign
0:12:55 may have come directly from the quran
0:12:57 william then craig used the quran to
0:12:59 protect the bible and now he's attacking
0:13:00 the quran
0:13:02 can you see can you imagine this guy
0:13:04 anyway that's another guy for another
0:13:05 day
0:13:08 you know and he spelled my name wrong in
0:13:09 the refutation as well
0:13:12 he spoke my name wrong you know
0:13:15 hajib
0:13:16 it's not hajib is hijab
0:13:19 and he knows it
0:13:21 he knows my name
0:13:24 but he's bought it wrong just to show
0:13:25 that he doesn't know who i am
0:13:27 anyway so there are necessary and
0:13:29 sufficient conditions and there are
0:13:31 contradictions in the old testament and
0:13:33 the the the whole bible is not preserved
0:13:36 you can't say any of that stuff about
0:13:37 the quran there's no argument that can
0:13:38 be made
0:13:39 i mean there are arguments that are made
0:13:41 by orientalists
0:13:43 non-muslim orientalists that talk about
0:13:46 general preservation of the quran
0:13:47 there's no such argument like for like
0:13:49 argument that is made about the bible
0:13:52 there is no such like-for-like argument
0:13:54 that is made about the bible
0:13:56 so you can say well it's debatable if
0:13:58 the quran is preserved the fact that
0:14:00 it's debatable that the quran has uh no
0:14:01 contradictions in it fine it's debatable
0:14:04 debatable means it could be the case and
0:14:05 it couldn't be the case with the bible
0:14:06 we know it for a fact is not the case so
0:14:08 it's not even debatable it's consensus
0:14:11 so it's already it's eliminated you've
0:14:13 eliminated the bible you've limit we've
0:14:14 eliminated the trinity and you've
0:14:16 eliminated it with this as well
0:14:18 okay
0:14:19 now
0:14:22 having said that
0:14:24 we we are going to go into some of the
0:14:26 evidences now we've talked about the
0:14:28 necessary conditions now we're going
0:14:30 into the sufficient conditions
0:14:32 let's
0:14:34 uh think about this together so i've
0:14:36 divided
0:14:37 okay into three types
0:14:40 you have quadratic evidence
0:14:42 evidence that comes directly from the
0:14:43 quran
0:14:46 and you have extra quranic evidence now
0:14:48 some people
0:14:49 they they seem not to understand how
0:14:51 things work
0:14:52 so they say well if you say that the
0:14:54 some evidence has come outside the quran
0:14:55 that means you're committing
0:14:58 this is what they say some salafists
0:15:00 from the right wing of salafism not all
0:15:01 of them of course but some strands of
0:15:03 medicalism so when they say
0:15:05 if you if you're saying there's any
0:15:06 evidence coming outside the quran you're
0:15:08 committing because you're saying there's
0:15:09 evidence that's bad in the quran but
0:15:12 this is a weak type of argumentation not
0:15:14 least because there are some things
0:15:16 which have been corroborated from
0:15:18 outside sources which the quran talks
0:15:20 about
0:15:23 the romans have been defeated how do you
0:15:24 know the romans and then they will
0:15:26 defeat after
0:15:27 you have to go and see outside the quran
0:15:28 if the guy is going to be defeated or
0:15:29 not which is now an evidence which is a
0:15:32 historical evidence outside the quran
0:15:46 many things about different prophets
0:15:48 and
0:15:49 different prophets and he says
0:15:51 these are from
0:15:53 the news this is from the news of the
0:15:56 unseen which
0:15:57 you didn't know
0:15:59 which which which would reveal upon to
0:16:01 you
0:16:02 yeah
0:16:08 you and your people did not know these
0:16:09 things before that
0:16:10 phosphorus
0:16:12 so you have another layer of historical
0:16:14 arguments
0:16:15 which once again can be corroborated by
0:16:17 outside another thing is physical
0:16:18 miracles are the prophet
0:16:20 and the physical miracles are the
0:16:21 prophet where the prophet did things
0:16:23 you know and and so on these are things
0:16:25 that the prophet did which are not
0:16:26 quranic
0:16:28 they're not within the quran
0:16:30 obviously it's within the prophet's own
0:16:31 remember he was doing this kind of thing
0:16:33 but this is what i mean by extra quranic
0:16:36 it's not quran it's more in line of
0:16:38 sunnah this one yeah and then you have
0:16:40 the sunnah type evidences like we said
0:16:41 the prophecies the the historical ones
0:16:43 today we're going to go through and also
0:16:45 the prophet himself
0:16:47 is because if you so little by inner
0:17:02 because
0:17:03 the prophet himself is an evidence
0:17:05 so his life is an evidence
0:17:08 he's a being in fact he's a very clear
0:17:10 evidence because when you assess the
0:17:12 life of the prophet muhammad from the
0:17:14 beginning to the end from when he was a
0:17:15 young
0:17:16 man young boy all the way up to when he
0:17:19 was a man and a prophet and when he got
0:17:20 married and so on you realize that
0:17:22 actually him he himself
0:17:25 is an evidence
0:17:26 now i want you to think about how that
0:17:28 is the case so with the person next to
0:17:30 you i'm going to give you a good time
0:17:31 here i'm going to give you five minutes
0:17:33 to think about
0:17:35 the following question i'm going to give
0:17:36 you very clear parameters okay
0:17:40 i want you to try and think of the
0:17:41 following if you have three minutes to
0:17:42 sum up the prophet salallahu's life
0:17:44 admission just life and mission not
0:17:46 going into miracles or
0:17:48 that kind of thing just yeah just life
0:17:50 in mission if you have three minutes
0:17:52 someone said who was the prophet
0:17:53 muhammad someone non muslim that you
0:17:55 know asked you who was the prophet you
0:17:57 have three minutes
0:17:59 what would be the events that you would
0:18:00 mention okay
0:18:02 what would be the key salient points
0:18:04 that you might say i wouldn't give you
0:18:05 five minutes with the person next to you
0:18:07 to think about like five to seven points
0:18:09 bullet point type thing and then i'm
0:18:12 going to give each of you
0:18:13 two to three minutes to to answer that
0:18:15 question because uh because i think it
0:18:16 needs to be fluid on our tongues how we
0:18:18 answer this question
0:18:19 that's all right all right five minutes
0:18:21 go ahead
0:18:23 i'm gonna give you guys time to speak
0:18:25 all right so everybody's gonna get three
0:18:26 minutes everyone's going to get three
0:18:28 minutes all right because we need to get
0:18:29 used to speaking as well so
0:18:32 we'll start on the right and then move
0:18:33 around okay
0:18:35 okay go ahead please
0:18:37 um okay so the prophet salallahu i think
0:18:40 the first kind of main important event
0:18:41 that we should establish is um who he
0:18:43 was before prophethood so the fact that
0:18:45 he was trustworthy um people in society
0:18:47 they praised him they accept him to
0:18:49 society they all trusted him um and also
0:18:53 the fact that he was unleaded
0:18:55 and you know he didn't have an education
0:18:56 to be able to read and write
0:18:58 um so i think that's the kind of the
0:18:59 first main event you know who he was
0:19:01 before prophethood and then um
0:19:03 so at the age of 40 he was uh receiving
0:19:05 revelation um and his revelation uh you
0:19:08 know was from god and the only thing
0:19:11 that he was calling people to was to
0:19:12 worship allah alone
0:19:14 and it was only for this reason you know
0:19:16 it seems like very something which is
0:19:17 very simple but because of this you know
0:19:19 one message you know just to worship
0:19:20 allah alone um
0:19:22 the people they outcast in from society
0:19:24 so just for this message um you know he
0:19:26 didn't want material things he didn't
0:19:28 want
0:19:29 um you know power or anything because
0:19:31 the people they offered this to him they
0:19:33 offered him material um possessions they
0:19:35 offered him um power but then he
0:19:37 rejected them all
0:19:38 why because he wanted people to just
0:19:40 worship allah alone so he wasn't
0:19:42 compromising on his message
0:19:45 and then the kind of last event i would
0:19:47 mention is kind of after hijra which is
0:19:48 in medina
0:19:50 and kind of you know the combination of
0:19:51 his life where you know by the end of
0:19:52 his life people were able to see that he
0:19:55 was successful in all areas um in that
0:19:58 he was um successful as a um as a father
0:20:02 as a husband as a family man um but then
0:20:04 also um as a as a law maker um you know
0:20:08 he brought laws um and you know
0:20:10 principles into the justice system into
0:20:12 politics into economics and he um and
0:20:15 even in war and he was successful in all
0:20:17 of these areas and then also in hood he
0:20:19 was also
0:20:20 you know just one thing i'd be careful
0:20:21 reason with lawmaker before i forget
0:20:23 yeah because obviously we believe the
0:20:24 laws come from yeah yeah keep going
0:20:27 yeah um but yeah so i think these kind
0:20:29 of free areas
0:20:31 uh are good proofs and you know if one
0:20:33 was to examine these three areas
0:20:36 yeah so the first one being
0:20:38 who he was before prophethood and you
0:20:40 know how his trusted for society um and
0:20:42 then second is you know when he was
0:20:43 receiving revelation and then he was
0:20:45 outcasted from society um you know
0:20:47 exactly what his message is him
0:20:49 receiving the quran even though he was
0:20:50 unlettered he was you know reciting
0:20:52 these uh you know miraculous words these
0:20:54 words that you know the arab poster
0:20:56 couldn't uh you know compete with and
0:20:57 then the third being um kind of the
0:21:00 combination of his life and the success
0:21:01 that he had in all these areas at the
0:21:03 end
0:21:06 yeah that's good that's three minutes
0:21:12 the person next to you please
0:21:17 it can start
0:21:19 yeah go ahead
0:21:20 uh the brother pretty much carry all the
0:21:22 points that we're thinking about but
0:21:23 yeah so
0:21:24 i'll probably be just reiterating what
0:21:25 he's what he said uh yeah so one uh i
0:21:28 think
0:21:29 the fact that his character was well and
0:21:31 truly established uh way before uh he
0:21:34 proclaimed uh prophet
0:21:35 is very important to point out uh and
0:21:38 then
0:21:39 the fact that he was uh unpleased with
0:21:40 the state of affairs in terms of
0:21:42 spiritual state of affairs
0:21:44 of the uh
0:21:46 of the society that he was living in he
0:21:48 was
0:21:48 extremely uncomfortable with
0:21:50 the politician apologism that was uh
0:21:53 present day in mecca at the time
0:21:56 and then uh also like again like just
0:21:59 like the brother mentioned the fact that
0:22:00 um uh he basically
0:22:03 had everything at that point because he
0:22:04 was born into a very noble family he had
0:22:06 to give up everything and he turned
0:22:08 basically and in turn basically got
0:22:09 nothing he just asked people to worship
0:22:11 one god it's not like he was
0:22:13 calling for people to help him out to
0:22:15 something so uh
0:22:17 he basically gave up everything and was
0:22:19 persecuted just uh
0:22:21 and in return you only ask people uh to
0:22:23 call for god uh to worship god sorry so
0:22:26 um
0:22:27 that's i think an uh another good
0:22:29 indication uh of him being legitimate uh
0:22:32 and then um
0:22:33 also uh just being uh true to his
0:22:35 message to his message and mission uh
0:22:38 throughout all the persecution or the
0:22:39 suffering that he went through is
0:22:41 another thing that should be pointed out
0:22:43 uh and then also the fact uh that
0:22:46 uh until uh until the end of his life uh
0:22:49 he was uh he he is straight to true to
0:22:52 his mission and um
0:22:55 it is very clear that uh he wasn't
0:22:58 until the very moment that he died he
0:22:59 wasn't expecting uh
0:23:01 in any worldly things uh uh
0:23:03 in return uh for what he was
0:23:05 asking for from the people uh so even if
0:23:08 somebody comes up say things like well
0:23:10 he had nine wives
0:23:11 and tried to imply that he was uh
0:23:14 living a hedonistic lifestyle all we
0:23:16 have to do is just go back to his life
0:23:18 to see that he was a true aesthetic in
0:23:20 every sense of the word uh and uh
0:23:22 the argument that he was
0:23:24 he was a hidden hedonist or something it
0:23:27 just doesn't uh hold any grounds
0:23:29 uh yeah so say yeah i would say
0:23:32 his consistency with his uh
0:23:35 his consistency and
0:23:36 him staying true to his mission i think
0:23:38 uh
0:23:39 it's a key sign of his uh uh prophethood
0:23:43 okay you have 30 seconds you wanna
0:23:45 end there i think yeah okay nice uh next
0:23:49 person
0:23:51 so this is if someone asks us like to
0:23:53 summarize the laughter
0:23:54 so
0:23:56 um
0:23:57 as i'll start by talking about the fact
0:23:59 that basically you know some simple
0:24:00 information in terms of where he came
0:24:01 out from
0:24:02 suppose we believe sent as a as a guide
0:24:06 as somebody who was to
0:24:08 call the people to the religion of islam
0:24:09 he was sent to an area mecca a society
0:24:11 that was relatively cut from other areas
0:24:13 and was suffering from an immense number
0:24:15 of vices um there was sort of uh sexual
0:24:18 lewdness within the community there was
0:24:19 intense problems of tribalism racism
0:24:21 um there was immense sort of warfare of
0:24:23 the petty matters that were going on
0:24:24 within the community
0:24:26 and so um his entire lifestyle his
0:24:28 entire life from the beginning of his
0:24:29 life until the end is something that the
0:24:31 muslims or muslims take guidance from an
0:24:33 inspiration from
0:24:34 um and it's part of his an evidence of
0:24:36 his prophethood and that he was
0:24:37 protected from indulging in all of these
0:24:39 lewd things even before prophethood um
0:24:41 eventually once he added a 40 he
0:24:43 received the quran which is
0:24:45 transformative it's particularly potent
0:24:47 because he was he was unlettered himself
0:24:49 and yet he came forth with something
0:24:51 that was
0:24:52 linguistically sort of
0:24:53 unprecedented in the arabic language
0:24:56 he begins a spiritual teaching
0:24:58 in cocking values and morals within the
0:25:00 people that he's i begin to follow him
0:25:02 um and for 13 years in makkah he's
0:25:04 offered all of these things of the dunya
0:25:06 of the world money wealth power and he
0:25:08 rejects all of it and he you know stays
0:25:10 firm him and his companions
0:25:12 whilst they're being oppressed abused
0:25:13 tortured um and he's just teaching them
0:25:15 these things and he has nothing to offer
0:25:16 them except
0:25:18 allah and talheed in a reformation of
0:25:19 their souls and their character and they
0:25:21 love him and they follow him in that
0:25:23 and he takes nothing from the world
0:25:24 either eventually he leaves mecca and he
0:25:27 goes and they make hijra to another city
0:25:30 called medina um to take refuge there
0:25:32 from the hardships that they were that
0:25:33 they were suffering and at this point in
0:25:35 time um as he's now the role of a
0:25:37 political community
0:25:38 um as when people begin to march in the
0:25:40 community as a responsibility to defend
0:25:42 that community and so there's a series
0:25:44 of battles that then take place and we
0:25:45 see a different sort of aspect of his
0:25:47 character where he is somebody who leads
0:25:50 his community not only spiritually but
0:25:51 also militarily politically
0:25:54 and you see that like pragmatism you see
0:25:56 his negotiations you see the way he um
0:25:58 you engage with all the different tribes
0:26:00 of arabia at that particular time
0:26:02 um and so yeah his he he fulfills his
0:26:05 prophetic mission and when he leaves
0:26:06 makkah he leaves sort of with the the
0:26:08 promise or the aspiration that he will
0:26:10 eventually return and eventually returns
0:26:11 and uh retakes the city um and
0:26:14 establishes it as a place of as a place
0:26:16 of monotheism as a place to as opposed
0:26:18 to polytheism and most potently before
0:26:20 he passes away he gives his companions
0:26:22 the responsibility of taking this
0:26:24 message of islam to the rest of the
0:26:26 world and so even after he dies there's
0:26:28 um there's an evidence really of the
0:26:30 tremendous achievement of his life that
0:26:32 he not only was an immense leader in
0:26:34 himself but he created leaders and he
0:26:36 created people that came afterwards that
0:26:37 took the message of islam and gave birth
0:26:39 to an immense and amazing civilization
0:26:42 people
0:26:43 okay before we continue to dress i want
0:26:45 us to
0:26:47 create a model answer
0:26:49 so can we have uh everyone taking notes
0:26:53 bullet point notes on what's already
0:26:54 been said
0:26:56 uh so that we can have some
0:26:58 if there's something that's missed out
0:26:59 so and then you know
0:27:01 so um what were some of the points that
0:27:03 were made
0:27:05 already i can't see you just shout out
0:27:07 don't worry
0:27:09 he was a great military leader teacher
0:27:12 husband
0:27:13 father general family man in general
0:27:15 okay let's try and get this in
0:27:16 chronology though as you're right
0:27:17 definitely but let's let's let's start
0:27:19 with mecca first before we go to medina
0:27:21 so what were some of the main things
0:27:23 that were said about in mecca prophet
0:27:25 hood
0:27:26 so even prior to prophet heard him being
0:27:28 unlettered and everything he was deemed
0:27:29 trustworthy by
0:27:31 everybody yes
0:27:32 so trustworthy and and unless it so
0:27:34 jonah
0:27:35 we'll go put that down so that he was
0:27:37 unletted why is unlettered why is that
0:27:40 significant
0:27:41 because what was to come later uh will
0:27:44 indicate you know some sort of truth to
0:27:46 the claim that he is you know a prophet
0:27:48 of of god why why why would that why is
0:27:50 that the case
0:27:52 because he would have been
0:27:53 outside um
0:27:55 the influence of uh right literature
0:27:57 right right right so they couldn't say
0:27:59 that he read such and such and that
0:28:01 influenced him good point all right so
0:28:03 let's put that point down let's let's
0:28:05 put down the
0:28:06 mean
0:28:06 the truthful and the trustworthy one
0:28:08 yeah now let's be um
0:28:11 a little bit critical here what if
0:28:13 someone were to ask
0:28:17 well
0:28:18 what is the evidence that he was
0:28:21 that he was actually the truthful and
0:28:24 the trustworthy one what would someone
0:28:26 uh
0:28:27 how do you prove that as you're making
0:28:29 that claim but how can we prove that he
0:28:31 was assad i mean the truthful and the
0:28:33 trustworthy one sorry you can say the um
0:28:36 before his prophet the warring tribes of
0:28:38 arabia used him as an arbitrator
0:28:41 yeah excellent yeah so he was
0:28:43 yeah because he had such a good
0:28:45 reputation beautiful particularly with
0:28:47 the example of um the laying the black
0:28:50 stone in its in his place in the kaaba
0:28:53 and uh he he basically the good the
0:28:56 other tribes aggressive you know they
0:28:58 were fighting each other but they
0:28:59 trusted him
0:29:00 and he recommended that you know they
0:29:03 all
0:29:03 take
0:29:04 the black stone
0:29:06 in in a in a cloth and each hole the
0:29:08 corner of the cloth and then he himself
0:29:11 was chosen to put the blackstone in its
0:29:13 correct place and that shows that they
0:29:15 trusted him exactly beautiful any other
0:29:17 points on trust
0:29:22 just shout out because i can't see
0:29:23 anyone's hands
0:29:28 his first marriage his wife uh so he was
0:29:31 a trustworthy person in business
0:29:35 sorry his his wife
0:29:38 yes and she she she was so
0:29:41 um she she was so impressed by his
0:29:43 character and trustworthiness obviously
0:29:46 she saw how he did business
0:29:48 that she chose him as her husband
0:29:50 beautiful and excellent this is
0:29:52 definitely corroborating
0:29:54 anything else
0:30:01 people would leave their stuff with him
0:30:02 you know um
0:30:04 for collection do you know about this
0:30:06 so can you elaborate upon it
0:30:09 um i don't know details but yeah people
0:30:11 they would uh entrust him with their
0:30:13 belongings like when they would go on
0:30:15 like uh trips
0:30:17 um and
0:30:18 uh yeah he'd look after him and this was
0:30:20 actually even after he
0:30:22 came to be a prophet they continued to
0:30:24 trust him uh with you know their
0:30:26 possessions
0:30:28 excellent there's also a verse
0:30:36 and i had lived before prophethood a
0:30:38 whole lifetime before it do you not
0:30:41 think yeah
0:30:42 now if you think about what the quran is
0:30:44 the quran is going to be a public
0:30:46 declaration
0:30:47 so if the quran is making a public
0:30:49 declaration that you know the prophet
0:30:51 lived a whole life before you
0:30:54 if if this statement was going to stir
0:30:57 controversy
0:30:58 it would not have been made
0:31:00 if that makes sense like
0:31:02 if if people were going to say well yeah
0:31:04 and we knew you to be
0:31:06 uh a bad character and we knew you to be
0:31:08 like a dishonest person or something
0:31:10 like that
0:31:11 the fact that we don't have any report
0:31:14 from any antagonist
0:31:16 or any enemy of islam to indicate that
0:31:19 the prophet was known for lying
0:31:21 even despite the fact that the quran
0:31:22 makes declarations
0:31:25 to the fact of his
0:31:26 character
0:31:29 that you are of impeccable character
0:31:32 is indicative of the fact
0:31:34 that this was a given that the quran was
0:31:36 publicly announcing rather than
0:31:38 something of controversial quality like
0:31:40 when the quran makes the statements
0:31:42 about his impeccable character and his
0:31:43 trustworthiness or whatever it may be it
0:31:46 doesn't do so in an argumentative way or
0:31:48 persuasive format it does so in an
0:31:50 informative way
0:31:52 which
0:31:53 the expression of which is not intended
0:31:55 to stir any type of controversy which we
0:31:57 know it didn't does that make sense
0:32:00 or not yeah
0:32:02 yeah
0:32:03 all right so uh so we talked about
0:32:05 sadhaka i mean the fact that he is the
0:32:07 truthful and the trustworthy one
0:32:09 what else can we
0:32:10 say in the meccan period justin what did
0:32:13 what else was mentioned you mentioned
0:32:15 some key terms tribalism racism what
0:32:17 else kind of thing was mentioned
0:32:19 i think also mentioned the fact that he
0:32:21 was unlittered and the society at the
0:32:22 time
0:32:23 um they were um
0:32:26 very involved in like poetry and they
0:32:28 used to you know uh compete at you know
0:32:31 elite levels with each other um in
0:32:33 poetry
0:32:34 so this was something that you know the
0:32:36 arabs at the time they took very serious
0:32:38 right but write down also what we just
0:32:40 mentioned so tribalism racism okay
0:32:43 put that in your notes because it's very
0:32:44 important tribalism racism okay
0:32:48 and infanticide the idea of killing
0:32:51 young girls
0:32:52 i'm not sure if that was mentioned but
0:32:53 these are the kinds of things that were
0:32:54 typical in the meccan environment
0:32:57 obviously the quran and the hadith come
0:32:59 explicitly
0:33:02 in opposition to these things yeah
0:33:06 what other things in mecca that could be
0:33:11 thought about
0:33:12 if i remember correctly there was a lot
0:33:14 of
0:33:15 lewd lewdness like behavior
0:33:18 i don't remember a lot of the details
0:33:19 but there was practices for example an
0:33:21 arabian woman would have intercourse
0:33:23 with
0:33:24 several men and then once she's pregnant
0:33:26 she will simply choose out of the
0:33:28 uh the bundle of men who is the father
0:33:30 of her of offspring there was a lot of
0:33:32 this going around and he abstained it
0:33:34 was you know a virgin until marriage at
0:33:36 the age of 25 to khadijah good so he was
0:33:39 chased
0:33:40 you know this is a good point this is a
0:33:41 very good point he was it was pure
0:33:44 there's there's actually this very
0:33:45 interesting story in the in the seerah
0:33:48 in the meccan period where the prophet
0:33:49 was going on his way
0:33:51 to a gathering
0:33:53 and i'm not sure if you've come across
0:33:55 the story but basically he fell asleep
0:33:57 before he could get there
0:33:59 have you seen him
0:34:01 he fell asleep before he could get there
0:34:03 and and he recalls it being like allah
0:34:05 has saved him from going to that
0:34:06 gathering because it was there was haram
0:34:08 elements
0:34:09 there basically
0:34:11 so even at that time god was guiding him
0:34:13 and stuff
0:34:15 so the chastity element the purity
0:34:17 element is a big part obviously the the
0:34:19 his heart was being purified as a child
0:34:22 think about his his upbringing
0:34:24 um
0:34:26 what kind of um upbringing did he have
0:34:28 did he have a nuclear family
0:34:30 or was he something else what was he was
0:34:33 begin with oh
0:34:35 he was an orphan this is important
0:34:37 because it humanizes the character of
0:34:38 the prophet muhammad
0:34:41 you know we have to mention this you
0:34:42 know the prophet muhammad was an orphan
0:34:45 okay he
0:34:46 he he grew up you know
0:34:49 with um
0:34:50 his uncle
0:34:52 you know
0:34:53 and he married a woman that was older
0:34:54 than him some reports say five years
0:34:56 older some say 15 years older
0:34:59 khadijah was much older than him
0:35:02 you know and if you just look at the
0:35:04 very sensitive and
0:35:06 innocent way they got married
0:35:09 he was no arrogant man womanizer like
0:35:12 they make out he was you know the way
0:35:14 that he approached hadija
0:35:16 was so innocent like it was through a
0:35:19 third party and he didn't think that she
0:35:21 would you know she would love him or
0:35:22 that she would like him or whatever and
0:35:24 the same thing backed with her and then
0:35:26 it was made into a union in a very
0:35:28 natural and he went to the family
0:35:30 you know this shows like honor
0:35:33 there's this deep level of honor there
0:35:35 don't you feel
0:35:37 okay anything else that was already
0:35:39 mentioned by this side before we go to
0:35:41 this side sorry because i'm i'm getting
0:35:43 involved too much i think
0:35:45 on what was also mentioned on this side
0:35:47 and in terms of the mechanism
0:35:55 that hasn't been mentioned yet so you
0:35:56 can put on your answer that's fine yeah
0:35:59 you can see he had a meditative
0:36:00 temperament
0:36:02 you know
0:36:03 he did have a meditative temperament he
0:36:05 wasn't once again he was you know we
0:36:07 went in isolation
0:36:08 think about things today in the cave
0:36:14 yeah this is meccan period the whole
0:36:16 making period including prophethood
0:36:18 yeah anything mentioned about how
0:36:21 even during that period though they had
0:36:22 a lot of rituals and things like that
0:36:23 around the kaaba i love a lot of circle
0:36:25 of polytheism and he has no but you can
0:36:27 mention this you can mention this is a
0:36:28 new point but from what the brothers
0:36:30 have mentioned already
0:36:32 is there anything we've missed out so
0:36:33 far i'm not sure how far ahead we're
0:36:35 going but we did mention that um even
0:36:37 after
0:36:38 him claiming to be a prophet they
0:36:40 offered him right this is a very
0:36:41 important point yeah so they offered him
0:36:43 what god yeah they offered him uh
0:36:46 uh like uh riches they offered him uh
0:36:49 you know women for marriage they offered
0:36:50 him power they even offered compromising
0:36:53 like you know we will worship your god
0:36:54 in one day and you know but on the other
0:36:56 days you know we will you know
0:36:57 worship our gods so they made the
0:36:59 compromising efforts to uh you know to
0:37:02 try and persuade them away from his
0:37:04 message
0:37:04 this is very important because a liar
0:37:08 when they're met with this kind of thing
0:37:09 they usually take it like
0:37:11 what if you're doing it for
0:37:12 materialistic purposes they said they'll
0:37:14 make you the same they'll make you the
0:37:15 the leader of the place they'll give you
0:37:17 women they want women will give you this
0:37:18 we'll give you that
0:37:20 you know these negotiations were being
0:37:22 had and if this is what he wanted he
0:37:23 could have gotten it yeah
0:37:25 this is actually a very important point
0:37:27 because why would someone do this what
0:37:28 is the motivation of doing something
0:37:30 like this
0:37:31 you know if it's for material gain that
0:37:33 he was offered material gain and he
0:37:35 rejected material gain
0:37:37 this is very important
0:37:39 he rejected material gain
0:37:41 and you know you mentioned i think some
0:37:43 of
0:37:44 you mentioned that he lived a life of
0:37:46 poverty in fact he did
0:37:49 and i think one of the most powerful and
0:37:51 maybe it could be some kind of homework
0:37:53 we do for the next session or something
0:37:54 one of the most powerful hadith there's
0:37:56 two or three that indicates in this
0:37:58 reality one of them is that when that
0:38:00 when ahmad went into the
0:38:02 house and he saw the prophet and you
0:38:04 know he's been sleeping on this kind of
0:38:07 straw mattress
0:38:09 and the lines the straw lines were on
0:38:11 his back and he said look at these great
0:38:12 kings
0:38:15 you know they have
0:38:16 they have been given everything and you
0:38:19 and look at you basically he said that
0:38:21 they've been given the riches of this
0:38:23 dunya by you know i i'm not opting for
0:38:26 that basically i can get the the for
0:38:27 hadith exactly what i said
0:38:30 you know but the this kind of thing is
0:38:33 really powerful because his wife
0:38:36 aisha said that we lived on two black
0:38:38 things meaning lived on water and dates
0:38:40 they were all living on like the
0:38:41 luxurious foods and
0:38:43 middle class
0:38:44 lifestyles it's not what was happening
0:38:47 but this is going more in the medina
0:38:49 period let's give
0:38:50 the rest of the brothers some time uh
0:38:52 three minutes each year
0:38:54 go ahead uh let's start with
0:38:56 whoever's right most with the
0:38:58 fluorescent jacket so
0:39:01 just mention things that wasn't
0:39:02 mentioned yeah i mentioned as much
0:39:04 whatever you want
0:39:05 and it will be good if you mention
0:39:06 things that were not mentioned as well
0:39:08 so as you know just mentioned like some
0:39:09 casual characteristics of the process so
0:39:12 like how it was very contemplated a lot
0:39:14 went to cave hero this was also before
0:39:17 prophethood he spent a lot of time there
0:39:19 away from like the
0:39:20 the noise of the city of uh of mecca
0:39:23 and this was also like a form of
0:39:25 preparation for prophethood so he was
0:39:28 extended within his nature to be like
0:39:29 that and also a sense of higher sense of
0:39:32 shyness also wasn't someone like you
0:39:34 mentioned like a womanizer like when
0:39:36 uh he was doing the business
0:39:39 he wouldn't even go into the house to
0:39:42 ask her for the for the for the payment
0:39:44 but we sent his friend through instead
0:39:46 because of his his shyness that he had
0:39:48 within his character and that's also and
0:39:51 yeah
0:39:52 also whilst he was being offered these
0:39:54 things in in mecca from the quraish like
0:39:56 all these riches and women things of
0:39:58 this nature
0:40:00 it wasn't just living like an easy
0:40:01 lifestyle
0:40:02 whilst not taking that it was also just
0:40:04 being persecuted as all so also was
0:40:06 praying in front of the kaaba that abu
0:40:08 lahab came
0:40:09 and his companion to like throw the
0:40:11 intestines of of of a camel upon him
0:40:14 and even through like throughout the
0:40:16 persecution and stuff like that at that
0:40:18 point he rejected like the riches it
0:40:20 wasn't just they just left him by
0:40:21 himself he was getting persecuted on top
0:40:24 of you know being offered uh things of
0:40:26 that neutral
0:40:28 uh also how he was with his companions
0:40:29 so his companion stayed with him in
0:40:31 mecca
0:40:33 he came to defend from salon
0:40:35 and a man of you know thought that she
0:40:37 was the truthful message that he had
0:40:39 with him like his companions they went
0:40:41 to an extent where you know it would be
0:40:43 like an evidence to say
0:40:44 to prove that what he was saying was
0:40:46 true because like how could you go that
0:40:47 far for someone that was just you know
0:40:49 enough for the dunya
0:40:51 so yeah it's kind of like a supporting
0:40:53 evidence for his perfect wood
0:40:55 i'm bringing medina as well guys so it's
0:40:57 not just mecca here's bringing
0:40:58 everything yeah you've got a minute left
0:41:00 if you want to bring anything you can
0:41:02 uh
0:41:04 i think i'll just leave it okay
0:41:07 no problem next
0:41:10 so yeah just to sort of echo everybody
0:41:12 in the room um
0:41:13 he was an unletted man who
0:41:16 lived
0:41:17 in a society where there was a lot of
0:41:19 you know tribalism racism infanticide
0:41:22 and lewdness you know going on which he
0:41:23 abstained from
0:41:25 especially especially polytheistic and
0:41:27 shirky
0:41:28 acts which he also abstained from
0:41:33 uh he was known for his impeccable
0:41:35 character and trustworthiness and
0:41:37 truthfulness
0:41:38 he was a
0:41:39 you know moving you know i believe into
0:41:41 the median period he was a military
0:41:43 leader
0:41:44 fantastic
0:41:45 teacher husband family man in general
0:41:48 ruler and companion
0:41:50 and um
0:41:51 yeah that's what i have so far
0:41:53 yeah try not to because you've only
0:41:55 spoken for one minute um
0:41:57 so let me just uh yeah just to read
0:42:00 a few events add a few things that
0:42:04 um i think one event uh sort of
0:42:08 portrays
0:42:09 him
0:42:11 in being known as a trustworthy
0:42:13 individual
0:42:15 i believe it was on the
0:42:17 mount safa
0:42:18 the mountain of safa where he yelled
0:42:21 you know
0:42:22 which is an arabic expression
0:42:25 and he goes
0:42:27 if i told you that horsemen were
0:42:28 advancing to attack you from the valley
0:42:30 on the other side of this mountain will
0:42:31 you believe me
0:42:33 to which they replied yes we have always
0:42:35 found you truthful then the prophet went
0:42:37 on to say i am a plain one
0:42:39 to you overcoming severe punishment so
0:42:41 that's one example in which he was found
0:42:43 to be truthful by
0:42:45 people whether that was his family
0:42:47 friends critics or enemies
0:42:49 they were found to be as such
0:42:51 it's a really good point and the fact
0:42:53 that's a good evidence of his
0:42:54 truthfulness and the fact that he was
0:42:56 seen as truthful because that's how they
0:42:57 responded is
0:42:59 we always saw you as truthful as very
0:43:00 good
0:43:01 evidence the mount safar was a very good
0:43:04 point
0:43:08 yes
0:43:09 well the prophet he was a very humble
0:43:12 man and
0:43:13 as the brothers have already said that
0:43:15 he was um he had impeccable manners and
0:43:18 he was known throughout the
0:43:20 the area as uh incredibly polite he'd
0:43:24 always greet everybody strangers or
0:43:28 familiar people with a smile so you know
0:43:30 he was known
0:43:32 for his character like that
0:43:34 and uh he apart from that he was also
0:43:38 successful militarily a great general
0:43:41 and
0:43:43 one of the um one of the nicest stories
0:43:45 that i've ever heard is the story of um
0:43:48 a humble man when he bought the prophet
0:43:50 some grapes
0:43:52 and the prophet was eating the grapes
0:43:55 and he didn't offer to his companions
0:43:57 any of them
0:43:58 and uh when they
0:44:00 when they asked because it's in our
0:44:02 cultures to offer anything you have to
0:44:05 other people
0:44:07 when the man went away he said that
0:44:09 because the grapes were sour i didn't
0:44:11 want you to
0:44:12 to
0:44:13 for the man to see an any expression on
0:44:15 your face that may hurt his feelings so
0:44:17 i ate the grapes myself
0:44:19 so that's one of one of the indications
0:44:22 of his character
0:44:23 also that uh throughout his life he
0:44:26 never
0:44:27 uh requested any
0:44:29 any wealth or any kind of um
0:44:32 uh anything that was involved in
0:44:34 you know anything that would uh be
0:44:37 outwardly
0:44:38 uh
0:44:39 ostentatious
0:44:41 and he always lived frugally
0:44:43 uh including when he was at his height
0:44:46 of his his prophethood he would live in
0:44:48 a room with three he would live in a
0:44:50 house with three rooms so it would be a
0:44:52 guest room his bedroom and and the um
0:44:55 the washroom
0:44:57 so
0:44:57 and this is a man who could have built
0:44:59 um you know a palace of gold for himself
0:45:02 but uh to the end of his days he he
0:45:04 provided an example for all muslims to
0:45:07 live frugally
0:45:08 and
0:45:09 and that's what we take as
0:45:13 an individual who has impeccable manners
0:45:16 and who was humble and uh an example for
0:45:19 all of mankind
0:45:20 beautiful fantastic relations very
0:45:22 excellent
0:45:24 you know um
0:45:25 just to add to some of this i think
0:45:26 we've we're getting closer to that model
0:45:29 answer that we won you know one of the
0:45:32 um
0:45:35 the greatest uh
0:45:37 or for me anyway one of the most
0:45:39 powerful
0:45:40 events in
0:45:41 well two or three things i want to add
0:45:43 actually
0:45:43 first of all the profit this is a fact
0:45:46 that he buried all of his children
0:45:47 except for one
0:45:49 he buried all of his children it's very
0:45:51 easy to come off the tongue you know he
0:45:53 buried all of his children except for
0:45:55 one he buried his wife
0:45:57 hadidah
0:45:58 and he buried his uncle but he buried
0:46:00 all of his children all the girls and
0:46:01 his sons etc except for one so it's a
0:46:04 man who had and he had been an orphan as
0:46:06 a child
0:46:07 just this by itself like we're talking
0:46:09 about a man who had experienced life
0:46:12 like he had been through grief in life
0:46:15 you know this is difficult
0:46:17 and
0:46:18 i want you to just think about one thing
0:46:20 one of the things that is usually used
0:46:22 as an evidence against the prophet's
0:46:24 character is the fact that he engaged in
0:46:26 warfare
0:46:30 but the fact that he engaged in warfare
0:46:32 once or twice a year
0:46:35 once or twice a year
0:46:37 on average
0:46:39 in his medinan period only before that
0:46:41 he was being persecuted right
0:46:43 i think that's an evidence for his
0:46:44 prophethood and i'll tell you why
0:46:46 the reason why is because
0:46:49 it was risky business claiming to be a
0:46:51 prophet
0:46:53 like imagine having to put your life on
0:46:56 the line once or twice a year
0:46:59 like you this is not a matter of okay
0:47:02 you're claiming to be a prophet and now
0:47:03 you're living a luxurious lifestyle
0:47:05 you're claiming to be a prophet and this
0:47:07 could lead you to be killed
0:47:10 once or twice a year people are going to
0:47:12 try and take your life
0:47:14 and this that happened almost you know
0:47:16 it it came close to that in for example
0:47:19 where his tooth was broken and they
0:47:20 thought he was dead
0:47:23 you know um
0:47:25 and this was a defensive battle actually
0:47:28 just like
0:47:29 most of them were
0:47:31 with the exception of one or two which
0:47:32 you can make an exception the romans you
0:47:34 can say was preemptive although they
0:47:36 killed the emissary first but we can go
0:47:38 into those details later on
0:47:42 that's i think evidence for his profit
0:47:45 the fact that he
0:47:46 that he was willing to put himself
0:47:49 in these life or death situations
0:47:54 and connected to that is the fact that
0:47:56 allah in the quran
0:47:58 he proclaims that he will defend him and
0:48:00 he will
0:48:01 he will safeguard him
0:48:02 despite all of those attempts on his
0:48:04 life
0:48:07 allah he will protect you against the
0:48:09 people
0:48:11 so in other words there's a godly
0:48:13 protection being offered here
0:48:16 and this is
0:48:18 a guarantee it's a godly guarantee
0:48:23 so
0:48:24 that's another thing so he just to
0:48:26 summarize the points here
0:48:27 he buried all his children except for
0:48:29 one
0:48:32 he buried his wife he went through
0:48:34 intense grief in his life persecution in
0:48:37 his life and in the time when he was the
0:48:39 leader of a country
0:48:41 he was being his life was being
0:48:43 challenged once or twice a year
0:48:47 and when he was living in that state he
0:48:49 was living
0:48:51 in poverty this was a
0:48:54 a leader who had been living in poverty
0:48:58 now they say nine wives
0:49:00 nine lives at one time is no joke
0:49:03 in fact this is exactly what a womanizer
0:49:05 doesn't do
0:49:07 sorry to say
0:49:08 when they say
0:49:09 well you know he had nine wives at one
0:49:11 time yeah he did have nine wives at one
0:49:13 time all of them were divorcees and
0:49:16 widows except for one which is aisha
0:49:20 yeah he had nine wives at one time
0:49:22 all of them were with him until he died
0:49:26 so he maintained nine women at one time
0:49:30 and the reasons obviously we know tribal
0:49:32 to get the tribes together and to you
0:49:33 know all that things but let's just
0:49:35 focus on the fact that they had nine
0:49:36 women all the time
0:49:38 a womanizer doesn't commit to
0:49:40 relationships that's a fault that is a
0:49:42 rule
0:49:43 yani a a womanizer that he goes from one
0:49:46 woman to the next he uses the woman and
0:49:48 he goes to there he doesn't want to
0:49:49 contribute to her life he doesn't want
0:49:51 to take care of her
0:49:52 that's not what a womanizer does
0:49:55 womanizers are the most afraid of
0:49:57 commitment
0:49:59 but having nine women at one time means
0:50:00 he's committed to nine women's health
0:50:02 safety protection
0:50:05 physical psychological and so on
0:50:08 they're learning
0:50:09 at one time
0:50:11 he is he is elevating their status in
0:50:13 society
0:50:14 in a way that nothing else could have
0:50:18 so these arguments you always find that
0:50:20 the arguments that are used against the
0:50:22 prophet are the best arguments for his
0:50:24 prophet
0:50:26 or he was a warlord or he was a you know
0:50:29 whatever a womanizer but when you really
0:50:32 think about it
0:50:33 you realize that actually
0:50:37 actually you know it's not the case
0:50:40 and just on the point of warlord
0:50:43 since uh
0:50:45 this video probably would go out
0:50:47 after i've spoken to peterson
0:50:50 who had made that comment i mean the
0:50:52 problem is with this comment
0:50:54 is that
0:50:56 warlord
0:50:57 indicates the term warlord indicates
0:51:00 that the prophet
0:51:02 he got
0:51:04 power through aggressive and violent
0:51:06 means that's how dictionaries define it
0:51:08 but the prophet did not gain power
0:51:12 through violent and aggressive means the
0:51:14 prophet muhammad he went to tariff as
0:51:17 you guys know and this is a very
0:51:18 important event
0:51:20 he went to tariff by himself okay he
0:51:22 didn't go with an army
0:51:24 and when he went to tariff he was pelted
0:51:27 and violently rejected by his people but
0:51:30 it happened before the migration to
0:51:31 medina
0:51:34 and he was rejected violently almost
0:51:37 killed
0:51:38 actually
0:51:42 and then he went to austral
0:51:44 two groups of people who embraced islam
0:51:47 through a religious incentive and made
0:51:49 him into a political leader
0:51:52 through popular support he gained
0:51:54 leadership he didn't gain leadership
0:51:56 from there was no war of medina that
0:52:00 established him as the leader of media
0:52:02 it was through popular support that he
0:52:05 became the leader of medina
0:52:07 that
0:52:08 gave bay'a to him pledge of allegiance
0:52:11 to him
0:52:12 and as a result they put him in that
0:52:13 position and he as soon as he got
0:52:15 leadership
0:52:17 he put he made constitutions between him
0:52:19 and the minority groups namely jewish
0:52:21 people and polytheists
0:52:23 and we have those documents to hand it's
0:52:25 not like these things are
0:52:27 extant not extant they are historically
0:52:30 extant
0:52:31 they are catalogued
0:52:33 there is we have them all the way back
0:52:35 to
0:52:39 azuri
0:52:42 all of these things with the chain of
0:52:44 narration
0:52:45 which is good
0:52:46 which talks about the the the the
0:52:50 the minority rights that were granted to
0:52:52 jewish people the minority is very
0:52:54 important
0:52:55 we must and put this in the notes as
0:52:56 well we must talk about the fact that
0:52:58 the prophet and this is another charge
0:53:01 he's an anti-semitic person you know he
0:53:02 killed this person
0:53:04 he why would he if that was the case why
0:53:05 would he make
0:53:06 a constitutional
0:53:09 agreement with the jewish people when he
0:53:11 went to medina and that constitution we
0:53:13 have with us
0:53:16 in fact i you can make an argument that
0:53:18 pluralism that existed in the islamic
0:53:20 state was more robust than the pluralism
0:53:23 that exists in liberal states
0:53:25 especially considering the fact that
0:53:27 they were given their own courts of law
0:53:29 that would have efficacious rule
0:53:32 such a thing doesn't exist in britain
0:53:34 for muslims
0:53:35 like if you have a sharia council it's
0:53:37 not going to have efficacious
0:53:39 law if the police is not going to come
0:53:40 and knock on your door if you don't if
0:53:42 the fatwa that gives is not going
0:53:43 to be
0:53:44 implemented but that would have been the
0:53:46 case
0:53:47 for jewish courts in muslim countries
0:53:51 and this is the case so there was an
0:53:53 element of a strong element of pluralism
0:53:55 that existed and there was a strong
0:53:57 element
0:53:58 of
0:53:59 a national identity based on religion
0:54:01 that you know of not compulsion religion
0:54:03 all these things and protection explicit
0:54:06 express protection that was given
0:54:09 so i think these points are very
0:54:10 important
0:54:11 because one of the things that's held or
0:54:13 he's anti-semite
0:54:15 but when the quran talks about itself
0:54:17 the quran talks about
0:54:20 the prophet muhammad
0:54:22 and his interaction with for example
0:54:30 that is because when he mentions in the
0:54:32 first couple of verses
0:54:34 you know the the the excesses
0:54:42 they destroyed their own houses and so
0:54:43 on all these kinds of events that took
0:54:44 place
0:54:46 then he says that is because they went
0:54:48 against they challenged
0:54:50 the allah and his messenger it's not it
0:54:52 doesn't say there it can be
0:54:54 it's because they were jewish
0:54:56 why is it always the case when allah
0:54:58 he speaks about
0:55:01 fighting groups of people who are not
0:55:03 uh muslim
0:55:04 this couched in language of
0:55:06 justification and it's to do with their
0:55:08 actions
0:55:10 if it doesn't say that because they were
0:55:12 jewish they were ethnically jewish or
0:55:13 whatever
0:55:15 it doesn't say anything like this
0:55:17 so the charge of anti-semitism
0:55:19 is
0:55:20 is a flatly false one
0:55:24 especially considering and this is one
0:55:26 of the most important things you can uh
0:55:27 because and this this discussion of ant
0:55:29 symptoms will keep coming up
0:55:31 but this is the nail we talked about one
0:55:33 thing this will be the nail in the
0:55:34 coffin now
0:55:35 especially considering the prophet
0:55:37 married a jew
0:55:40 that's it sofia bintu was a jewish woman
0:55:43 she came from
0:55:45 who was a jewish man
0:55:47 she was ethnically jewish and she was
0:55:49 one of those people who the prophet
0:55:51 married
0:55:53 and not only that when she was being
0:55:54 harassed
0:55:56 for her jewishness
0:55:57 the prophet gave her words to say
0:56:00 which
0:56:01 which exalted her honor
0:56:03 namely that i come from the lineage of
0:56:05 of harren of uh aaron uh
0:56:09 so if it was a matter of anti-semitism
0:56:11 when she came to complain to the prophet
0:56:14 right that oh you know these women are
0:56:16 uh telling me about i'm a jew and so on
0:56:19 he would have said to them oh yeah
0:56:21 they're right about that
0:56:22 you know it's true you are jewish you
0:56:24 know
0:56:25 and it made some maybe
0:56:27 agreed with it but why did he give her
0:56:29 words to defend herself which would
0:56:31 exalt her
0:56:33 ethnic status
0:56:34 if he was such an anti-semite these are
0:56:36 important things
0:56:38 and the point that you made
0:56:40 about about racism or anti-racism is an
0:56:42 extremely important point because there
0:56:44 is i i'll tell you this explicitly
0:56:47 and i've challenged people with this
0:56:49 there is no equivalent
0:56:52 of
0:56:53 hadith which is there's no virtue of a
0:56:55 black man over a white man or a white
0:56:57 man over a black man or an arab over a
0:56:59 non-arab or non-arab or an arab in any
0:57:01 world religion
0:57:03 in any ancient world religion
0:57:06 obviously you can i say ancient here we
0:57:09 have to obviously you can say this
0:57:10 feminism whatever's religion or
0:57:12 you know or
0:57:14 scientist scientology we're talking
0:57:16 about ancient world religions yeah there
0:57:18 is no equivalent there's not one verse
0:57:20 in the bible the old testament
0:57:22 that explicitly condemns racism you'll
0:57:25 never find in fact the new testament
0:57:27 itself
0:57:28 could be said to have
0:57:29 things inside of it which indicate
0:57:31 racism itself
0:57:34 jesus saying to the gentile woman who
0:57:36 came
0:57:37 that i don't you know it's not for the
0:57:39 dogs to come in you know she referred to
0:57:41 as a dog
0:57:43 because she was a gentile she was a
0:57:44 non-jew now this in modern parlance
0:57:46 would be seen as racist discriminatory
0:57:52 but you don't find anything equivalent
0:57:53 imagine this was in the quran imagine
0:57:55 hadith
0:57:56 imagine for a second that you had the
0:57:58 equivalent of a non-arab man coming to
0:58:00 the prophet and the prophet referring to
0:58:02 them as a dog please please imagine
0:58:08 please imagine what they would do with
0:58:09 that
0:58:12 so
0:58:13 islam is clearly the most anti-racist
0:58:16 religion in the face of the earth
0:58:18 clearly
0:58:19 and for that reason it's the most
0:58:20 multicultural religion in the face of
0:58:21 the earth
0:58:22 and it's the only religion which takes a
0:58:24 sense the way it does on these issues
0:58:26 so much so that we we talk about
0:58:30 bill
0:58:31 the black man who married helen and alf
0:58:33 by the way who's arab
0:58:34 but there's more than that like osama
0:58:36 bin zayed he was black as well he had
0:58:38 black skin literally had black skin
0:58:40 and the prophet made him a leader of
0:58:41 armies
0:58:44 he loved him actually because he his
0:58:46 father was
0:58:47 zaden hadith
0:58:48 who was as you know right so the idea of
0:58:52 race is a very important one tribe is a
0:58:54 very important one because
0:58:56 the prophet muhammad was able to unify
0:58:58 the tribes
0:59:00 no one else before him could do that the
0:59:02 quran says that itself
0:59:05 you know
0:59:06 that you are left
0:59:10 that you had
0:59:11 that sorry that allah had had
0:59:14 allah
0:59:16 that he he put he made their hearts
0:59:18 united
0:59:23 and if you had put all
0:59:24 your money into this project you would
0:59:26 not have been able to
0:59:28 from the whole world make them united it
0:59:30 was only a spiritual and religious
0:59:33 incentive that made them united
0:59:38 and then you have the charge once again
0:59:40 of the prophet being more hungry and
0:59:41 power hungry because they say fine maybe
0:59:43 he was not maybe he was not money hungry
0:59:45 maybe it wasn't a woman thing but maybe
0:59:47 it was about power power hungry
0:59:49 so why is it then when he met
0:59:52 when he in
0:59:54 when he was trying to go into
0:59:58 to do omra
0:59:59 with the sahaba with the companions
1:00:02 he criticized that this is very
1:00:04 interesting he criticized them for being
1:00:07 war hungry he says
1:00:10 he says woe to you
1:00:12 let's
1:00:14 that war has devoured you
1:00:16 he said
1:00:17 war has devoured you so if he was the
1:00:19 one on the
1:00:20 the one who wanted war all the time
1:00:23 then why is he criticizing the
1:00:24 opposition
1:00:26 for wanting war in fact he went there to
1:00:28 do a peace treaty and
1:00:31 and he he and this shows you the
1:00:33 pragmatism that you're talking about
1:00:34 hodei bia is the
1:00:36 best bedrock example
1:00:39 in the seerah for compromise of the
1:00:41 prophet muhammad
1:00:44 now and this is they use hodei
1:00:47 the jurisprudence uh the jurists they
1:00:49 use
1:00:50 they use it to show that you can add you
1:00:52 can have peace treaties with any nation
1:00:55 you want islam is not a religion that
1:00:57 doesn't want peace that's that's false
1:00:59 if it was a religion that couldn't
1:01:01 handle peace
1:01:03 had no propensity for peace
1:01:05 or couldn't deal with peace that horde
1:01:07 would have been out of the question and
1:01:10 huda beer is one of the most bedrock
1:01:11 examples of where islam is is not only
1:01:14 capable of peace but it's calling for it
1:01:17 on a military and geopolitical level
1:01:22 and who broke hadeb's agreement it was
1:01:24 them it was it was the enemy tribes who
1:01:27 broke hodei and when it broke
1:01:30 and father took place
1:01:32 when the prophet could have gone and
1:01:34 slaughtered everybody
1:01:35 those people who had been torturing and
1:01:38 persecuting and
1:01:40 he could have done all of that but when
1:01:41 he went into mecca he went in and the
1:01:44 narrations say
1:01:46 that his head
1:01:47 was
1:01:49 on parallel with the horse's head
1:01:50 meaning he was arched over in humility
1:01:55 he wasn't pumped
1:01:57 like maybe i would be going in like some
1:01:59 kind of
1:02:00 professional wrestler
1:02:02 there was no
1:02:03 you know or you know it's human nature
1:02:06 when you beat someone you want to you
1:02:08 see it in the mma you see it and this
1:02:10 and that
1:02:11 you raise your arms and you know you do
1:02:13 this it's a human impulse you're so
1:02:15 excited it's a psychological reaction
1:02:17 the prophet was not entered into this
1:02:19 dunya
1:02:21 he was not introduced to a worldly stuff
1:02:23 can you imagine such a victory bro such
1:02:26 a victory that for years and years
1:02:28 10 plus 13 we're talking like 20 plus
1:02:31 years
1:02:33 that he's fighting against his people
1:02:35 war after war ibn kayem says 19 wars 19
1:02:40 19 times you could have been killed
1:02:42 19 times you were maimed or hurt or
1:02:44 injured you your your brethren were
1:02:46 killed in your family members were
1:02:48 killed you so many people died
1:02:51 and you finally get to that stage where
1:02:53 you conquer
1:02:54 this city not through fighting but
1:02:57 through
1:02:58 just walking in because they know that
1:02:59 they're the dominant force they didn't
1:03:01 fight
1:03:03 and you do so in such a humble way
1:03:08 that
1:03:08 it's that in and of itself is that it
1:03:11 this is not just us it's not lip service
1:03:14 when we say that he has impeccable
1:03:15 character
1:03:17 this is the reality because we can see
1:03:19 it through his actions and it was those
1:03:21 actions you talk about
1:03:23 that exactly stop salahuddin from going
1:03:25 in and doing the same thing he thought
1:03:27 about that because if you look at the
1:03:29 crusade's history
1:03:30 the crusades
1:03:32 when they came in they destroyed
1:03:33 everybody
1:03:35 look at the reports it's not even
1:03:36 reports from muslims they came in and
1:03:38 they they slaughtered men women and
1:03:39 children
1:03:40 as the bible talks about in the old
1:03:42 testament they slaughtered them
1:03:43 destroyed them
1:03:46 that kind of stuff you see in the old
1:03:47 testament you'll never find the quran go
1:03:49 in and kill the woman the children the
1:03:51 ox and the sheep
1:03:53 kill everything that breathes literally
1:03:56 this is a verse in the bible
1:03:59 the blood was ankle deep
1:04:01 that's what they say this is what
1:04:02 historians say
1:04:04 the blood was ankle can you imagine that
1:04:07 like children were decimated
1:04:09 now it was deen's turn
1:04:11 and he said the same thing that the
1:04:13 prophet said letter
1:04:16 which is that there's no blame on you
1:04:17 today you're forgiven basically
1:04:19 where did salahuddin get this impeccable
1:04:21 character and this he got it from the
1:04:23 prophet muhammad the same thing with
1:04:25 he could have gone to jerusalem
1:04:27 and fought and killed everybody
1:04:29 the prophet predicted that jerusalem
1:04:31 would be overtaken and we'll talk about
1:04:32 this more and talk about prophecies yeah
1:04:34 but when ahmadinejad went in
1:04:37 what did he do did he kill the people he
1:04:39 told the as soon as he went in he told
1:04:41 and this is mentioned by the way
1:04:43 by thomas
1:04:44 walker arnold
1:04:47 in the preaching of islam it's an
1:04:48 orientalist book
1:04:51 i mean
1:04:53 orientalists even admit this orientalist
1:04:55 admit this
1:04:57 that when um
1:04:58 went into jerusalem
1:05:01 he went in
1:05:02 and he gave he was he was he was eager
1:05:05 i'm paraphrasing obviously but he was
1:05:07 eager to give jews and christians their
1:05:09 rights
1:05:10 to protect them to not destroy any place
1:05:13 of worship
1:05:14 this is extremely important stuff
1:05:17 because the
1:05:18 the accusations are held against muslims
1:05:20 are not just unjust
1:05:22 they are inaccurate and they historical
1:05:25 that this is the reality honestly we
1:05:27 need to be able to because these are
1:05:28 misconceptions now these are these have
1:05:30 become fabrications your prophet did
1:05:32 this and he did that and he killed these
1:05:33 people yes
1:05:34 there were some people that were the
1:05:36 prophet himself killed only one person
1:05:37 in his life by the way
1:05:38 in war was only one person
1:05:44 but there were wars
1:05:46 but they were not like the wars of sorry
1:05:47 this is the 20th century like what would
1:05:49 they what on earth are we comparing it
1:05:51 to we're talking about hundreds of
1:05:52 people that died maybe in all the wars
1:05:54 hundreds
1:05:55 hundreds of people that died hundreds
1:05:57 not even a thousand
1:05:58 and if we if we if we want to go liberal
1:06:00 then maybe a thousand to two thousand
1:06:02 but liberal estimate
1:06:05 how are you going to come compare that
1:06:06 to the excess the bloody excesses of the
1:06:08 20th century
1:06:10 30 million 40 million
1:06:13 like let's make a comparison
1:06:14 a few people 100 people died in tribes
1:06:18 and skirmishes and fights and so on
1:06:21 in mostly and i say this mostly
1:06:23 defensive wars
1:06:25 versus 30 million that night oh your
1:06:27 religion causes this and causes that
1:06:28 which which causes what really
1:06:30 nationalism caused 30 million deaths
1:06:33 it was it was national imperialism your
1:06:35 version of nationalism
1:06:37 power hungry
1:06:39 this this is not the same thing where
1:06:41 the prophet salallahu salaam very
1:06:42 explicitly said
1:06:44 man
1:06:58 he says what would have what would it
1:07:00 have
1:07:02 disadvantaged them
1:07:04 if they just let me go to the people and
1:07:05 speak to them basically give that one to
1:07:07 them basically proselytize them
1:07:09 basically bring them to the religion of
1:07:10 islam meaning that the the only reason
1:07:13 for this in the first place was to have
1:07:14 access to people so you can tell them
1:07:16 about
1:07:17 told them about the origin of islam and
1:07:18 abraham moses and jesus it wasn't to
1:07:20 acquire wealth and to acquire treasures
1:07:22 and so on
1:07:23 and he wasn't even he wasn't a
1:07:24 beneficiary to any of that
1:07:28 he lived a life of poverty
1:07:31 and you know one other thing i want to
1:07:33 add
1:07:34 the prophet muhammad
1:07:35 we said he had 19 wars but that's
1:07:38 not saraya by the way not not the small
1:07:40 skirmishes
1:07:41 he lived in in this poverty nine wives
1:07:43 all of these things difficulties yeah
1:07:47 religious
1:07:48 rulings in the morning
1:07:50 he had as an obligation
1:07:53 that he were to pray the whole night so
1:07:55 sorry two thirds of the night or half a
1:07:57 night or a third of the night
1:07:59 can you imagine like we pray five times
1:08:00 a day imagine spending
1:08:02 let's let's let's count it let's say
1:08:04 three hours a day just standing up and
1:08:05 praying
1:08:07 i can't handle that sorry to say can't
1:08:09 handle that even ramadan
1:08:11 three hours is a long time we do tala we
1:08:13 have one hour imagine times that by
1:08:15 three and make it 365 days a week
1:08:19 plus fasting plus your wives and plus
1:08:21 fighting sorry man this is too much
1:08:25 no what imposter can keep that up
1:08:28 i want you to think about that what
1:08:29 imposter can keep up the fact that they
1:08:31 have to pray
1:08:33 two thirds of the night or a third of
1:08:34 the night or half of the night as the
1:08:36 quran states
1:08:44 yeah you know
1:08:45 half of it or a third of the night or
1:08:46 two thirds of the night like that range
1:08:49 you're praying or standing up your your
1:08:52 legs are cracking from the pain and so
1:08:54 on and you're still in prayer for that
1:08:57 long
1:09:00 and it's obligatory upon you
1:09:04 because the quran says
1:09:07 it's
1:09:09 means it's hate for him it's obligatory
1:09:12 so he had to pray that much
1:09:14 and someone said well how do we know he
1:09:16 did that every single one of his wives
1:09:18 will witness to that
1:09:19 it couldn't be that all nine of his
1:09:21 wives and this is one of the wisdoms of
1:09:22 having nine wives came together and
1:09:24 colluded that yeah we're gonna have to
1:09:26 uphold this lie that he prayed
1:09:28 one third of the night or you know
1:09:31 and all the the community members that
1:09:32 saw him pray other community members saw
1:09:34 that
1:09:35 let's uphold this lie in this tacit
1:09:37 collusion that we all have together and
1:09:39 we all uphold this line no he prayed
1:09:41 this long people saw her even his wife's
1:09:44 people that he was traveling with he was
1:09:45 with they saw that stuff
1:09:48 so what kind of imposter would that have
1:09:51 to be
1:09:52 it would be an emote a level of
1:09:54 motivation
1:09:56 that is not explicable through human
1:09:58 means
1:10:00 you're praying two thirds of the night
1:10:02 you're putting your life on the line
1:10:03 you're living on dates and water
1:10:05 you're sleeping on straws
1:10:08 you're eating uh scraps
1:10:12 and yeah
1:10:14 and somehow this is all a lie
1:10:17 somehow
1:10:18 you made it all up
1:10:20 that candy it doesn't seem right
1:10:23 just by looking and this is why the
1:10:24 prophet saws himself is a beginner
1:10:26 himself that's his life is that evidence
1:10:28 why do you think the people that were
1:10:30 with him and believed in him why do you
1:10:32 think they were so
1:10:33 certain like abu bakr
1:10:35 that he was on
1:10:37 because they knew about him they knew
1:10:38 about his life
1:10:39 there's no chance that this guy is this
1:10:41 man here there's no chance that he's
1:10:43 making this up there's no chance that
1:10:45 he's an imposter there's no chance just
1:10:47 based on his character alone now with
1:10:50 the person next to you actually
1:10:52 with that we conclude
1:10:54 yes we will do more interactive stuff
1:10:57 but but we
1:10:58 uh what we're going to do insha'allah
1:11:00 for monday for monday's lesson
1:11:03 i want you to produce and i'm going to i
1:11:04 know that some of you have already
1:11:06 written something for the previous thing
1:11:07 that i set i will be looking at that as
1:11:09 well inshallah so add whoever's finished
1:11:11 that please give it to me
1:11:13 it's optional you don't have to give it
1:11:14 but this one i do want everyone to do
1:11:16 even if it's you'll take any five
1:11:18 minutes of your time based on everything
1:11:20 that everyone has said today in this
1:11:21 brainstorm and what i said as well
1:11:24 we need to redo the three minutes
1:11:26 yeah everyone's gonna really do three
1:11:28 minutes because we want to make it as
1:11:29 gold standard as possible
1:11:31 if someone asks you this question it's
1:11:33 one of the most important questions you
1:11:34 can ever be asked
1:11:36 about the prophet muhammad we follow him
1:11:39 you know we follow him he's the final
1:11:40 prophet so for us we need to be able to
1:11:42 be on point
1:11:44 and give the answers that will basically
1:11:46 be the most
1:11:47 pertinent
1:11:49 salient points about his life which
1:11:51 indicate his genuinity
1:11:54 yeah which indicate
1:11:56 his legitimacy as you mentioned it's a
1:11:58 good word they use
1:12:00 so
1:12:01 let's
1:12:02 think together and we'll put uh these
1:12:04 points inshaallah and on monday we'll go
1:12:06 further and also read the the k by h
1:12:09 thing on my website the the 10 points
1:12:12 okay because we're going to be talking
1:12:14 about evidences now because we haven't
1:12:15 even gotten into evidences we haven't
1:12:17 got into prophecies or history or
1:12:19 linguistic or structural we haven't even
1:12:21 started that yet and look already how
1:12:23 convincing it is
1:12:24 like we haven't even cited the evidences
1:12:26 and look how convincing this thing is
1:12:28 just by the prophet sam's character
1:12:29 itself which we have underexplored
1:12:32 let's be honest about it in the dawah we
1:12:34 have not given it as haqq
1:12:36 so any questions on that
1:12:40 all right with that we conclude
1:12:41 insha'allah and we'll see you in the
1:12:43 next session wassalamualaikum allah