Has Joe Rogan Changed His Mind on Islam ? (2021-07-03) ​

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0:00:16 i recently saw a clip a very short clip
0:00:20 of joe rogan saying good words about
0:00:22 islam
0:00:23 this is change of heart there's a change
0:00:26 of mind
0:00:27 let's take a look at what he has to say
0:00:29 come back and comment
0:00:30 islam originally was the they were
0:00:33 scientists man
0:00:34 i mean they were they if you look at
0:00:36 these the early islamic world they were
0:00:38 the ones that
0:00:39 were the most advanced at one point in
0:00:41 history they were the ones that were
0:00:42 pushing mathematics and science and
0:00:45 and reason and logic you know it's just
0:00:48 it
0:00:48 it comes in cycles man it comes in
0:00:50 cycles of suppression and dominance and
0:00:52 you know the the real concern is
0:00:56 unstoppable dictatorships like china and
0:00:58 russia and
0:00:59 when when there's no dissent and no
0:01:02 discussion
0:01:03 i've got a lot of friends who are arabs
0:01:05 i spend a lot of time in the middle east
0:01:07 i love them they're awesome there are
0:01:09 some factions that
0:01:10 say we've got to go blow ourselves up
0:01:12 and that's obviously some factions of
0:01:14 christianity
0:01:15 too right 100
0:01:18 absolutely in america right and i
0:01:20 guarantee you absolutely we were being
0:01:21 invaded and attacked
0:01:23 by muslims all the time it'd probably be
0:01:25 some radical fundamentalist christians
0:01:27 that would want to do the same thing
0:01:29 right that some some muslim sex have
0:01:32 done so first thing i want to say is
0:01:33 that this is
0:01:34 much more of a positive and constructive
0:01:36 tone
0:01:37 than what we have been used to with the
0:01:39 joe rogan experience
0:01:41 in the last half decade or so and
0:01:44 obviously there's something welcome that
0:01:47 you speak in this manner and start
0:01:48 looking in a positive
0:01:49 way about the religion of islam and it's
0:01:54 high time that that is the case and you
0:01:55 say a few good words about the religion
0:01:57 of islam
0:01:59 but i want to remind you of something
0:02:00 that malcolm x
0:02:02 uh beautifully verbalized and he said
0:02:04 you stick a knife
0:02:06 in my back nine inches and pull out
0:02:10 and pull it out six inches there's no
0:02:13 progress
0:02:15 if you pull it out all the way and
0:02:18 that's not progress
0:02:19 progress is healing the wound that the
0:02:22 blow made
0:02:23 and they haven't even pulled out the
0:02:25 knife out
0:02:27 much less heal the wound they won't even
0:02:30 admit the knife is there
0:02:32 to be honest with you this i have to
0:02:34 just admit my disappointment with
0:02:37 much of what you guys do and when i see
0:02:39 you guys
0:02:40 kind of so-called alt-right
0:02:43 uh commentators on internet that you've
0:02:47 got your knife in the back of the muslim
0:02:49 community's back
0:02:50 and you're maybe slowly pulling it out
0:02:52 but you don't even want to admit it's
0:02:54 there
0:02:55 talking about us talking at
0:02:58 us and not to us scarcely
0:03:02 seldomly to us
0:03:06 and i say this that has to change
0:03:09 if discourse is going to be positive in
0:03:12 the next half decade
0:03:14 what i wanted to say in the remainder of
0:03:16 this video
0:03:18 was i wanted to give you our perspective
0:03:20 as muslims
0:03:22 on the purpose of life because one of
0:03:24 the things you said
0:03:26 was when we're talking about the kaab
0:03:29 and the circumambulation
0:03:30 of muslims around the black box which is
0:03:32 called the kaaba
0:03:34 which is of course one of the the
0:03:37 pillars of islam hajj pilgrimage you
0:03:39 said it does something for them
0:03:42 let's hear what you said and come back
0:03:43 and comment on this you know when you
0:03:45 watch
0:03:46 the muslims uh gather around mecca and
0:03:49 go around the circle
0:03:50 you don't think there's something kind
0:03:51 of beautiful about that amazing about
0:03:54 that they all
0:03:55 peacefully get there they're all dressed
0:03:57 the same and they all like move around
0:03:59 this thing and show respect
0:04:00 obviously it's doing something for them
0:04:02 it has this profound
0:04:04 effect on them joe rogan i want to be
0:04:05 honest with you because i know you're
0:04:07 watching this video i know for a fact
0:04:08 you're watching this video in fact
0:04:09 yeah i want to be honest with you and
0:04:11 tell you that this
0:04:13 language that you're using um it's doing
0:04:16 something for them
0:04:17 it's revelatory of your own
0:04:20 bias and i think your bias may be
0:04:24 something which is referred to in ethics
0:04:26 as egoism
0:04:28 or even in psychology as egoism this
0:04:31 idea
0:04:32 that things should be done for us like
0:04:34 we are the center of attention
0:04:36 that we should be acting on our
0:04:38 self-interest and really that is the
0:04:40 basis for morality not only that
0:04:43 but the purpose of life therefore is for
0:04:45 us to try and get as much of it as we
0:04:47 can
0:04:48 let it do something for us like a slave
0:04:51 life is a slave to us and we're just
0:04:54 here
0:04:55 telling life what to do and this comes
0:04:58 quite
0:04:58 frequently in your podcast if i may be
0:05:00 honest with you and tell you
0:05:02 whether it's you telling people or
0:05:04 asking them about lsds
0:05:06 telling them about your experiences
0:05:07 smoking a big cigar and doing this and
0:05:09 that's what
0:05:10 or you know hgh that you take and the
0:05:12 palumbo ism that you have or the
0:05:14 chain facial change that you've seen
0:05:16 because of the steroid abuse and so on
0:05:18 this is just you are a caricature
0:05:22 and i don't mean this to be rude you are
0:05:24 a caricature of materialism
0:05:26 you basically are emblematic and this is
0:05:29 not the purpose of life we want to say
0:05:31 that the purpose of
0:05:32 life is not so that we may consume
0:05:34 things and it can do things for us
0:05:36 before we
0:05:36 hit the grave the purpose of life is to
0:05:39 worship our creator
0:05:40 that's the purpose of life that we have
0:05:42 a creator he created the human beings
0:05:45 which we we can reason rationally
0:05:48 the purpose of life is to worship that
0:05:50 creator
0:05:51 that's the purpose of life to submit
0:05:53 ourselves to that creator
0:05:55 rousseau very famously said man is born
0:05:58 free but everywhere in chains
0:06:00 the quran states allah
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0:06:22 has put forward a parable of two men
0:06:25 one of them has many slave masters
0:06:29 and the other one has only one slave
0:06:32 master
0:06:33 are they the same praise be to god
0:06:37 that most people don't understand
0:06:39 meaning
0:06:41 meaning you will always be a slave to
0:06:44 something or someone
0:06:45 whether it's your own desires or
0:06:47 societal expectations
0:06:49 or materialism or a combination of all
0:06:52 those things
0:06:54 or you can decide to be the slave or
0:06:57 submission in submission to the one who
0:07:00 created you and the
0:07:02 quranic message is very straightforward
0:07:04 joe rogan
0:07:05 it's that you have to make the right
0:07:09 decision the purpose of life is to
0:07:11 worship god not to worship yourself
0:07:13 not to worship societal expectations and
0:07:16 you will not receive
0:07:18 happiness tranquility and purpose in
0:07:21 life
0:07:22 you'll be stuck in the second gear of a
0:07:24 meaningless lifestyle
0:07:26 if you think that you can fill the void
0:07:30 of purpose with all of the activities
0:07:33 that you are partaking in
0:07:36 they have no ability in fact
0:07:40 or facility to fill that void is
0:07:42 impossible
0:07:43 the only way to fill that void is
0:07:44 through god the creator
0:07:47 the creator god which is sustaining the
0:07:51 universe and maintaining us
0:07:53 so it's not for us to be expecting from
0:07:56 god or what can religion do for us
0:07:58 it's the wrong question the right
0:08:00 question is what's the purpose of life
0:08:03 and what can we do to meet that purpose
0:08:08 we say the purpose of life is to worship
0:08:10 god
0:08:11 it's really as straightforward and
0:08:12 simple as that submit our will to god
0:08:15 and the world is like a shadow joe rogan
0:08:19 the world is like a shadow all the
0:08:21 happiness they're in
0:08:23 is like a shadow the more you try
0:08:27 and walk towards it the more
0:08:31 it moves away from you
0:08:34 and that's what you'll find i'm sure you
0:08:36 have already found that joe rogan
0:08:38 and what you will continue to find the
0:08:40 pursuit of happiness therefore
0:08:42 which is a phrase that's entrenched
0:08:45 in the american documents is nothing but
0:08:48 a mirage
0:08:50 is nothing but a delusion
0:08:55 and the true way out of nihilism
0:08:59 and a completely purposeless lifestyle
0:09:02 is a strong purpose which can only be
0:09:04 granted
0:09:05 through the creator god we're happy to
0:09:08 have these conversations joe rogan
0:09:10 and we need to have this conversation so
0:09:12 you need to think deeply about what i've
0:09:14 said
0:09:15 because you don't have much time to be
0:09:17 to be honest with you on this planet
0:09:19 how long how old are you i mean would
0:09:21 you respect
0:09:22 you're pushing 60 now are you you know
0:09:25 how old are you
0:09:25 how are joe rogan and it's not even
0:09:27 about age because people die
0:09:29 in their uh when they're young but
0:09:32 you're pushing 60 now jorgen
0:09:34 10 20 more years you you know it's over
0:09:36 really you can't even
0:09:38 you know if you take hdh from the horse
0:09:40 himself it's not going to be
0:09:42 putting you back into the age of youth
0:09:45 so you need to start thinking about the
0:09:47 purpose of life
0:09:48 and think about the grave as heidiger
0:09:51 said
0:09:52 as his preferable advice that if you
0:09:55 want authenticity in life
0:09:56 think about the grave
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