Indirect Proof of the Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ ? (2022-02-03) ​

0:00:02 now there's a problem here uh for if
0:00:05 somebody believes that
0:00:07 the quran was
0:00:09 is divine um was inspired by god then
0:00:14 they would argue that the quran is
0:00:16 correct jesus was not crucified
0:00:18 um and then and and the crucifixion
0:00:21 story is just um false
0:00:24 but
0:00:25 for those who think that
0:00:28 the quran was
0:00:31 authored by muhammad
0:00:33 there's actually a problem there
0:00:36 so if muhammad
0:00:38 wrote
0:00:39 the
0:00:40 the quran
0:00:42 here's the question
0:00:45 there are actually serious
0:00:49 issues for him something that both
0:00:52 groups who are concerned with jesus
0:00:54 agree on
0:00:55 so the jews say
0:00:57 we killed him
0:00:59 and the christians say
0:01:00 we killed him
0:01:02 he's at the same time trying to attract
0:01:05 both grooves
0:01:06 the killing of the chris of jesus is of
0:01:09 no significance to him to the quran
0:01:13 be trying to unify all of those
0:01:15 yet he comes out with what looks like a
0:01:18 statement that stands in the face of
0:01:20 history everybody he knew every jew
0:01:23 every christian believed that jesus was
0:01:25 a crucified and he's trying to tell them
0:01:27 we believe in the same god i believe in
0:01:29 the torah and the injil jesus is so and
0:01:32 so moses is so-and-so however
0:01:35 what you say about this particular issue
0:01:37 i'm disagreeing with what sense does
0:01:40 that mean i think it's actually a very
0:01:41 very good point and there's even that
0:01:42 verse in the quran says to people
0:01:44 let us come to common terms he's
0:01:46 inviting them to come to an agreement so
0:01:49 the emphasis here is on consensus let us
0:01:51 understand what we share in common and
0:01:54 then you come across this verse which is
0:01:56 so counterintuitive in some ways if
0:01:58 particularly if you're a christian um in
0:02:01 in denying the crucifixion so why would
0:02:04 muhammad inverted commas being the
0:02:06 supposed author of the quran what motive
0:02:08 would you have for including a verse
0:02:10 which really puts the the spoke in the
0:02:13 wheels of this whole agenda of let us
0:02:15 agree let us come to common terms does
0:02:17 it make any sense as you say absolutely
0:02:20 it basically dents um the credibility of
0:02:23 the quran
0:02:24 because they think this is a simple
0:02:27 basic historical fact how do we know
0:02:30 well the quran since then has always
0:02:33 been criticized on this particular point
0:02:36 the
0:02:37 the claim the store claim that has
0:02:39 received the most criticism from
0:02:41 scholars non-scholars is the crucifixion
0:02:43 of jesus
0:02:44 now he comes out and basically puts out
0:02:47 the statement that he would make kind of
0:02:49 if you like threaten
0:02:51 his whole message
0:02:52 and mission because
0:02:54 this is an indirect argument for the
0:02:56 authenticity of the problem because if
0:02:57 he was a charlatan if he was a fake a
0:02:59 fraud then he wouldn't use a verse of
0:03:01 course which threatened to jeopardize
0:03:04 his successful proselytizing of
0:03:06 christians for example why would he do
0:03:08 that he would
0:03:09 no no one would do that so that kind of
0:03:11 suggests indirectly that that he is uh
0:03:14 but putting the truth over uh any
0:03:17 interests of a self-aggrandizement or
0:03:20 any fraudulent claim to prophethood
0:03:23 that that paul unless you actually go
0:03:26 out to try and prove that the quran does
0:03:29 not deny the crucifixion
0:03:31 so that's one way out of this dilemma so
0:03:33 we are in a corner
0:03:35 but there is a way out of it if we
0:03:38 actually say the quran does not deny the
0:03:40 crucifixion
0:03:42 um
0:03:43 any advantages of denying the
0:03:45 crucifixion while history tells us none
0:03:47 absolutely none 14th century of
0:03:50 criticism disagreement um
0:03:53 you know accusing the creator of the
0:03:55 quran absolutely none that's that's
0:03:57 really what we
0:03:59 what we have here