Is Homosexuality comparable to Incest ? (2017-05-08) #

0:00:00 basically before we start let me just
0:00:03 introduce it to a slammer
0:00:04 it's LOM as a religion here whereby I
0:00:08 use me here if someone's a religion well
0:00:13 we believe the one God one God worthy of
0:00:16 worship all right one God worthy of
0:00:19 worship yeah yeah oh yeah one God worthy
0:00:26 of worship we believe look this is what
0:00:30 we believe there's a verse in the Quran
0:00:31 I want to introduce you to it ya know
0:00:33 see what not to like no there's a verse
0:00:36 I figured Saturday night verse 29 it
0:00:40 says but of Allah whom a solemn Roger
0:00:43 une fille Shura cap water shake it
0:00:46 sooner or later version basically says
0:00:48 that God has preferred a parable yeah of
0:00:51 a man who has many slave owners and
0:00:55 another man who has only one slave owner
0:00:58 and then he said hey Lester really
0:01:00 metella are they the same
0:01:01 yeah now the plane is do you know those
0:01:05 a philosopher his name is Rosario he
0:01:06 said man is bloom free for everywhere in
0:01:09 Chains man is going to bed one change
0:01:11 the idea is this the idea is that we as
0:01:14 Muslims we believe that you are going to
0:01:16 be a slave to something in this world
0:01:18 yes
0:01:19 you're going to either be a slave to
0:01:20 social expectations that you've chosen
0:01:23 your China it's a good way of putting it
0:01:27 so we say look let us choose who we
0:01:30 should be basically submissive to or
0:01:33 what we should be submissive to and in
0:01:34 our conceptual conceptualization we say
0:01:37 that the most appropriate thing for us
0:01:39 to submit to is the one who created
0:01:41 everything the one who knows everything
0:01:43 the one who's all aware of everything
0:01:45 and that is for us God so that's why the
0:01:48 Quran giving anyone in this entire
0:01:50 square
0:01:52 yes okay so in that case because oh
0:01:54 really so do you accept do you accept
0:01:57 that the scientists think there's like a
0:01:59 electronic that's some kind of magnetic
0:02:02 thing going on and that's God even
0:02:04 science so everybody agrees yeah no I'm
0:02:08 with you oh that's good we'll put in it
0:02:09 but I just want to say - I want to put
0:02:10 the student ma'am so for me like if you
0:02:13 ask me about my morality where do I get
0:02:15 my own morality
0:02:15 ya know but if you do I'll say look
0:02:19 there's a there's a rationality behind
0:02:20 the rally
0:02:21 so the rationality for us is okay we
0:02:23 believe that God created the universe
0:02:25 yeah now he is all-knowing we'll hearing
0:02:28 a little powerful and as an extension of
0:02:30 that he sent messengers to certain
0:02:32 people's in certain plants and
0:02:34 messengers came to people in certain
0:02:36 people certain times at different times
0:02:38 yeah and the final that we believe is
0:02:40 the Prophet Muhammad you came for
0:02:41 everything would be right
0:02:43 those messengers yeah so basically
0:02:46 whether what they have with them are two
0:02:48 things the message in the miracle the
0:02:50 message being from God which is to
0:02:52 believe in a worship and only one God
0:02:54 submit yourself to one God rather than
0:02:56 submitting yourself to aspects of the
0:02:57 creation and the miracle is the Quran
0:03:00 itself and it has a way of basically
0:03:02 proving itself okay good point so having
0:03:08 said that Oscars a homosexual yeah I
0:03:10 want to ask as a homosexual do you feel
0:03:15 it's basically in your opinion it's it's
0:03:18 your right jewy it's absolutely fine
0:03:21 morally acceptable for you to be
0:03:22 homosexual in the sense that my national
0:03:25 urge okay thank you all right yeah okay
0:03:29 I wanted to ask you a question there
0:03:31 yeah do you assert that everything that
0:03:34 you believe and feel from nature
0:03:36 you should enact depending on what how
0:03:40 you feel depending on your own
0:03:43 morality that you have available decide
0:03:46 the course of your lifetime supporting
0:03:48 with your own experiences and your own
0:03:50 destiny based on your own and what
0:03:52 you're here to do and that all of us are
0:03:54 here to do something different we're all
0:03:55 here to develop in a soul a different
0:03:57 way but religion to shut that down and
0:03:58 makes you all the same I don't believe
0:04:00 that no I'm with you but John I put this
0:04:03 on you because I think your voice is
0:04:05 thought on my website no I don't like
0:04:09 you you believe that yeah but the
0:04:11 question I asked you was you said it was
0:04:12 my network to be homosexual I mean I do
0:04:15 believe that I'm not saying that you
0:04:17 shouldn't know one thing I Fisher the
0:04:21 first Pinilla do you believe that as you
0:04:23 connect with my life I think we have
0:04:24 there should be able to adapt well most
0:04:27 of them because you have an urge to eat
0:04:29 to [ __ ] for sleep to park so most of
0:04:32 them yes I would agree sir all right
0:04:34 what about you what about you all of
0:04:35 them I wish you would do not sir
0:04:38 okay does that go fight for my morality
0:04:40 the one thing so from what did you get
0:04:42 your morality from your own life
0:04:43 experience or did you get it from the
0:04:45 book look well I think that's crap it
0:04:47 you have to get it from life okay why
0:04:49 don't kill because that's what we've got
0:04:51 to go on got to go you can have guidance
0:04:54 you can have guidance really but if you
0:04:56 don't develop it to your own experiences
0:04:57 and your own vision and your own path
0:05:00 life and everything else
0:05:01 what's the point of it well as you had
0:05:03 to have it I'm not going on chemically
0:05:05 you can call me well your life because
0:05:09 how call you done yet there you go
0:05:11 John the Baptist you go okay John Joyce
0:05:14 Jesus high five ah Piper Coverstone 0.1
0:05:21 0.1 the circle I was a jerk yeah thank
0:05:26 you
0:05:26 oh so basically more common ways to
0:05:32 coming into your mouth your question
0:05:33 all right in also so sorry my question
0:05:37 is fit forward then someone had wished I
0:05:39 would say take someone happening right
0:05:40 now to be incestual your conceptualize
0:05:47 yeah well they have to shake themselves
0:05:49 and find out in my police say they'd
0:05:51 have to check themselves if they could
0:05:53 stop that urgent and really truly find
0:05:56 out where that came from because it
0:05:57 often comes from then having incestual
0:06:00 stuff happening in their path so that's
0:06:04 where you're saying that because I'm
0:06:06 homosexual that I've had some homosexual
0:06:08 thing happen to me in the past so that
0:06:10 bla bla bla some there's a lot of
0:06:12 different reasons why people are
0:06:13 homosexual ask about you know oh yeah go
0:06:16 someone has a genetic urge yeah yeah to
0:06:20 be incestuous yeah should they be
0:06:22 allowed to elect well that's not for me
0:06:24 to decide that's for them to decide okay
0:06:26 not for you to decide or me no no it's
0:06:28 not for me to do anything as for them to
0:06:30 sort it out
0:06:30 not for me yeah that's not none of my
0:06:34 business I don't know them so now in my
0:06:36 house if there's a crime going on again
0:06:39 if someone's been broken the law of the
0:06:41 land then obviously it's a crime that's
0:06:43 the climate it's not really what it is
0:06:45 yeah so you it's not allowed so you'd
0:06:47 get you know you get the police involved
0:06:49 which is probably if it's not allowed to
0:06:51 happen it's probably right okay so
0:06:53 you're saying is you shouldn't be
0:06:54 allowed to have a little well I'm not
0:06:55 I'm not saying anything I'm just
0:06:56 pointing out that the law says that it's
0:06:59 illegal okay so they'll also look
0:07:00 illegal
0:07:01 so our mother and a family relationship
0:07:03 to happen according to the law okay
0:07:07 according to the law if you go to a
0:07:09 country where homosexuality is illegal
0:07:11 should you still be able to enact on a
0:07:13 sec trolley well I don't know so your
0:07:18 honor I'd like to really disagree with
0:07:21 you linking homosexuality with incest
0:07:23 it's the same thing why can't only okay
0:07:26 so for example I'm looking
0:07:27 heterosexuality with incense okay and
0:07:30 I'll make a point on I link them I link
0:07:32 them all cut I'm sorry yeah like her
0:07:34 incest I pedophilia and I'm linking with
0:07:38 homosexuality and jumping all in the
0:07:39 same carrier bag and constantly blinking
0:07:42 them up they're not connected because
0:07:44 it's adult consensual circle it's not
0:07:46 going generational you are you're
0:07:49 talking incest incest okay so that's
0:07:51 intergenerational sex words of stuff but
0:07:54 well that well I don't know that's to do
0:07:55 with them isn't it what you just said
0:07:57 depending on the age they are okay so
0:07:59 notice up here
0:08:00 what's your sister's or sue Robert
0:08:02 one-hour sessions cause of each other
0:08:03 yeah I think I think gender homicidal
0:08:05 gentlemen I think gentlemen you better
0:08:08 come to the Nitty Gritty nub of your
0:08:09 point and ask me it now okay my point is
0:08:11 this right you said don't compare you
0:08:14 should have been making comparisons
0:08:15 between certain homosexuality no I know
0:08:17 I said I was really upset with the
0:08:19 factory's constantly being linked with
0:08:20 illegal sexual activity
0:08:22 homosexuality is constantly being linked
0:08:24 with illegal sexual activity instant
0:08:26 beautifuller etcetera that's why I said
0:08:28 okay I was annoyed with that something
0:08:30 you were doing in that case if you go to
0:08:31 another country where homosexuality
0:08:32 advanced would you be upset in the same
0:08:35 way if someone liquors if you two are
0:08:37 not allowed to I don't know because I've
0:08:38 never been to one of those countries and
0:08:39 I don't think I would okay so I'm saying
0:08:42 is if any homosexual forget about you if
0:08:45 any almost sexual went to Nigeria or any
0:08:46 other country well sexuality is back
0:08:48 should they or should they not be
0:08:49 allowed to enact their homosexuality
0:08:50 well I think it depends on them if they
0:08:52 choose to or not okay so what you're
0:08:54 saying here is for homosexuals you're
0:08:57 saying they have a decision to make
0:08:59 whether they want to or they don't want
0:09:00 that's right whereas we will send you an
0:09:02 adult sex not intergenerational and
0:09:04 underage sex underage sex it was
0:09:07 princess your underage sex all right all
0:09:09 right then within it within the same
0:09:10 family or whatever okay it's not it's
0:09:13 only legal though we're a bub between
0:09:16 brother and sister in this country yeah
0:09:17 I think is illegal if you leave
0:09:19 in other time your country okay when in
0:09:23 other countries in alright then in our
0:09:25 country it's illegal in our country
0:09:27 today I should assume that what exactly
0:09:31 all the odds are so Marysol for you okay
0:09:34 cool you probably more London than I am
0:09:36 okay in a normal day in a Muslim country
0:09:38 depends on which country took about as
0:09:40 many of them so why UAE I think
0:09:43 homosexuals can probably do a lot more
0:09:44 than let's say Saudi Arabia alright so
0:09:46 it's kind of like it you know I think
0:09:49 they should be I think they should I
0:09:51 think people should be free to do what
0:09:53 they feel like doing as long as they're
0:09:55 not hearing somebody else and they're
0:09:57 not they lie against I think the people
0:09:58 should be free to do what they want as
0:09:59 long as they're not hurting is by
0:10:01 breaking the law happy you said that
0:10:02 well you know I'd be very confusing but
0:10:04 you're trying to box me into a situation
0:10:05 and a box around by people and I'd like
0:10:09 to serve other people what they think
0:10:10 about homosexuality ask them what do you
0:10:13 think what do you think about my
0:10:15 sexuality no comment no comment what do
0:10:17 you think about my pictures no comment
0:10:20 no comment take-home receive back
0:10:22 there's no not these people why because
0:10:24 you've asked me for like the law no but
0:10:25 the bigger here you should be able to
0:10:27 can I ask you a question yeah you're you
0:10:29 seem like a decent guy yeah well Muslim
0:10:31 this is weakest or a million questions
0:10:32 look at that let me allow me to
0:10:34 elaborate on my point my point is that
0:10:36 people ask us questions all the time
0:10:37 about slap people ask Jewish people
0:10:40 questions also my Judaism Christian
0:10:42 author I do a Judaism ABS we've all done
0:10:44 by atheism everything should be able to
0:10:47 recreate a scrutinize and criticize
0:10:48 including sexuality and so it's not fair
0:10:51 I don't believe it's fair if you want to
0:10:53 say it's freedom of speech for us to say
0:10:54 okay we should have parameters of that
0:10:56 speedo Street I'm saying that if you're
0:10:58 almost sexual just like I'm a Muslim and
0:10:59 someone's a Christian all of us should
0:11:01 be able to have engaging conversation
0:11:03 while getting angry actually
0:11:05 rationalised angry is really moving
0:11:06 anger okay if you get passion okay now
0:11:09 let me ask you a question nother
0:11:10 question right my favorite question to
0:11:12 you you said you can do everyone so long
0:11:13 it's about how many or not that's the
0:11:14 harm principle side by DJ SMIL yeah and
0:11:17 unlock on liberty in 1800 I don't know
0:11:19 basically I'll tell you what this means
0:11:20 now it's a liberal it's a libertarian
0:11:22 principle that was come from a
0:11:23 philosopher in 1800 I've got two
0:11:25 questions to you number one
0:11:27 then if you really think about it incest
0:11:29 between brother and sister yeah where
0:11:32 they're both consensual over H in your
0:11:34 opinion should not be illegal
0:11:36 yeah I didn't sign that's not my opinion
0:11:38 so what's your friend you're putting
0:11:40 your opinion now now I'm asking what is
0:11:41 your opinion is incest between two
0:11:43 consensual adults but brother and sister
0:11:46 now both consented and wearing
0:11:47 protection so there's all deformed
0:11:48 babies is that legitimate is that
0:11:51 morally acceptable is that morally
0:11:52 unacceptable I think you'd have to ask
0:11:55 those two themselves and their parents
0:11:57 and the people in their vicinity I've
0:11:59 got no there's nothing to deny don't
0:12:00 have children my own and I'm asking for
0:12:02 your opinion does my opinion yeah I give
0:12:05 me my opinion so what's your play
0:12:06 tickets between those two that I will
0:12:08 use on for that when we talked about the
0:12:09 linkage between horse or hybrid between
0:12:11 because less than almost actuality then
0:12:12 going because they often link
0:12:15 homosexuality with in things which
0:12:18 without incest or people's only out
0:12:20 there what's all that because they're
0:12:21 why definitely linked in it so what
0:12:22 along with the mental link is made so
0:12:24 what's well is that leave interrupting
0:12:26 me sorry I'm so mental link is made in
0:12:28 people's mind that link homosexuality
0:12:31 with pedophilia within certain okay I'm
0:12:34 also critically though well you can't
0:12:35 strong I'm the argument I'm gonna no I'm
0:12:37 not telling you that's what happens in
0:12:39 the public for me I'm doing it no no
0:12:40 you're not I'm going into it you try to
0:12:42 do it I own a love inside cut you off
0:12:44 and you didn't like a winter sand also
0:12:46 sorry I'm saying to you what it is a
0:12:48 different if you say if you use the
0:12:50 liberal Humphrey supplies barometer I'm
0:12:52 asking you what is the moral difference
0:12:54 between homosexuality and a brother and
0:12:57 a sister having sex of each other this
0:12:58 is such a stupid discussion and you're
0:13:01 having such a stupid argument but you
0:13:02 don't have any responsible i am i
0:13:04 throwing a response and telling you what
0:13:05 you're trying to do is very very twisted
0:13:07 and stupid it's all white like that I've
0:13:09 told you already and you didn't listen
0:13:10 no I'm not working with one to take back
0:13:12 no but no but you do well you learn the
0:13:15 tape can you see why you're not giving
0:13:16 any answers okay I gave you the answer
0:13:18 what's the answer
0:13:19 what's the difference between interest
0:13:20 from a logical little us what this
0:13:22 different positive one is a man having
0:13:24 sex with another man okay
0:13:26 one man having sex with another man and
0:13:27 the other one is two people in the same
0:13:29 family having sex is one right one wrong
0:13:32 quite well that depends on your point of
0:13:33 view I'm asking you either like the link
0:13:36 I'm asking you why do you like the link
0:13:37 um because
0:13:38 wait inferred that homosexuality somehow
0:13:42 not right something not quite right
0:13:45 about it there's something a little bit
0:13:47 something about my question one other
0:13:49 thought you were playing what's the
0:13:50 difference between incest and why yeah
0:13:51 why you asking the question why not what
0:13:53 not why not why are you asking that
0:13:55 particular question I feel I feel like
0:13:57 it
0:13:57 oh you know you do what you do like you
0:14:00 do a lot of now it's damaging his belief
0:14:03 system oh oh you see what how you work
0:14:05 you're mainly trying to mind [ __ ] people
0:14:07 with his religion and then when you
0:14:09 stare men on rivers or like in whatever
0:14:11 religion I want yeah but you don't
0:14:13 that's irrelevant finally Allah thank
0:14:15 you so you could take you see here
0:14:18 here's a good example of something which
0:14:20 you could have just which basically have
0:14:22 lost the argument well that's that's
0:14:24 that's in the opinion of the person
0:14:26 who's listening to this not you or me
0:14:27 okay that's good you have your abilities
0:14:31 and so as other people are going to
0:14:32 watch these logic logically they're free
0:14:34 to make their own minds up and flush
0:14:35 their own mobile phones down their own
0:14:37 toilets and cut the control system and
0:14:39 stop bullshitting around with these
0:14:40 stupid religions that mind [ __ ] you and
0:14:43 allow you to be controlled on mass
0:14:44 through different countries okay so it's
0:14:47 religion does anyone have a stick now be
0:14:48 excuse me he's off he's on he saw
0:14:52 himself please so okay so here okay
0:14:55 logically you have nothing to satisfy
0:14:59 yourself with well logic is only half
0:15:00 the story which is from this part of
0:15:02 right this part of the brain the other
0:15:04 part of the intuitive for feminine for
0:15:06 sensual is dancing you're like oh sexual
0:15:09 oh oh we don't like that do you coming
0:15:13 in cool okay I think he'll fill minutes
0:15:18 to get my permission to get my position
0:15:20 because go home alright what do you
0:15:23 listen I'm someplace book alright anyway
0:15:26 so long as we're not harming anyone else
0:15:27 you know
0:15:28 really well and what I won't help
0:15:30 anybody else and when they put those
0:15:31 pants on people's backs in Guantanamo
0:15:33 Bay and play heavy melting we weren't
0:15:34 harming anybody were they different do
0:15:37 you know what I was doing you you're
0:15:39 coming well sir I got to be very funny
0:15:40 I understand what I could do with other
0:15:42 comes you know I want to take back all
0:15:44 right so if you have any answer here let
0:15:46 me ask you one last time and if you
0:15:47 don't answer anything then I think we
0:15:49 can all make of it
0:15:50 we can all make out on any point so
0:15:51 don't give the shoes man we can all make
0:15:53 our own mind up on this yeah because I
0:15:55 said thank you for your response and
0:15:56 what's the difference between
0:15:57 homosexuality means and inside no that's
0:15:59 not my question my question is why is
0:16:01 homosexuality a man another man having
0:16:04 sexual intercourse and the act of a man
0:16:07 and a woman who happen to brother and
0:16:08 sister yeah and they're consensual yeah
0:16:13 drink that because you're gonna do it
0:16:15 actually time all right okay so I'm
0:16:18 asking you why is it before you're
0:16:20 likely to see anything okay whatever I
0:16:21 see now no thanks I don't drink alcohol
0:16:24 no no not on tetanus all right okay it
0:16:28 does it smaller good anyways I was the
0:16:30 hymen
0:16:31 okay okay fair enough I'm sorry I
0:16:33 prejudged you there anyways this is also
0:16:44 like what you feel in your car you can't
0:16:46 swallow okay yes yes burn up question
0:16:51 question question what makes
0:16:54 homosexuality any more or less morally
0:16:58 acceptable than a brother and sister are
0:17:00 wearing who take contraceptive tablets
0:17:04 or wherever is they do I wear protection
0:17:06 whoever is what makes one morally okay
0:17:09 and everyone not more than a moral
0:17:10 stance the way of what will you believe
0:17:12 okay so you're saying it's not like that
0:17:14 so here so here in other words you never
0:17:17 want that for you yeah okay thank you
0:17:20 ask your question let me answer you so
0:17:22 for us it's very straightforward
0:17:24 yeah we say that from a mobs on an
0:17:27 objective level it's impossible for us
0:17:29 to prove morality yeah unless you have
0:17:31 an all-knowing entity which transmits
0:17:33 the information to human beings always
0:17:35 we think that is actualized in the last
0:17:38 and final revelation which is a plan
0:17:40 twisting to say the same thing about the
0:17:42 Bible kind of stuff do you think the
0:17:44 point is no I'm the Oscar meal across
0:17:46 here so the answer is it's okay
0:17:49 Emma I'll see you in this one word we
0:17:51 say homosexuality was the act of a man
0:17:53 having sex when suppose of another man
0:17:54 is equivalent to two are basically a
0:17:58 brother having sexual intercourse some
0:17:59 story for you them night but you have no
0:18:01 reason to feel certain because you have
0:18:02 not our counselor argument why is it
0:18:04 wrong I don't at the camera view leaves
0:18:06 a sorry mind your society is way more
0:18:07 she tried unicycling was not like it's
0:18:09 okay and I'm sorry basically I'm saying
0:18:12 to you is basically your suspect because
0:18:14 you're living in a present time in a
0:18:16 creeper station right and so you
0:18:17 religious Primus you know as you just
0:18:19 said that I'm covering you as this goes
0:18:20 one but we check my own so have you got
0:18:23 any reason to believe that one is more
0:18:25 stories for an hour no it's just you're
0:18:27 a person one card thank you very much I
0:18:28 think with that I think you're free to
0:18:30 make your own decisions up in life
0:18:32 please don't even do any ID pop body
0:18:34 above you I don't follow nobody Thank
0:18:37 You Isaac