Liberal Muslim Re-interpreting The Qur'an (Response) (2022-12-29) ​

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0:00:30 thank you
0:00:35 how are you guys doing I came across a
0:00:38 video of some self-proclaimed liberal
0:00:40 Muslims talking about reinterpretation
0:00:42 of the Quran let's take a look at this
0:00:44 clip and come back and comment on this
0:00:46 clip the Quran must be re-interpreted
0:00:49 for the 21st century you always need to
0:00:51 reinterpret the Quran um whoever is
0:00:53 looking at the Quran whoever is reading
0:00:55 it needs to interpret it needs to
0:00:57 understand what Allah is telling that
0:00:59 person all the information everything
0:01:00 that we're learning is about getting us
0:01:02 closer to a just future and in the time
0:01:05 of the Prophet slavery was well and
0:01:07 Alive the Quran never outright abolished
0:01:10 slavery but people through their
0:01:12 interpretation decided that the Quran is
0:01:14 leading us to a future where slavery
0:01:17 shouldn't be allowed because it's unjust
0:01:18 yeah I agree I think the chronic attacks
0:01:21 is a holy text that should never be
0:01:23 changed or obviously written like that's
0:01:24 that's off the table but I think
0:01:27 interpretation kind of we talked about
0:01:28 the whole time matters but I've
0:01:29 consulted with different like mosque
0:01:31 leaders different people who actually
0:01:32 study Islam and not once it was like a
0:01:35 big overlap because they have their own
0:01:36 interpretation what the Quran is into
0:01:38 the modern world so I just think in
0:01:40 general there definitely should be a
0:01:41 more modern interpretation I think
0:01:43 what's going on here quite frankly is
0:01:44 that and this is the case with a lot of
0:01:46 Muslims in the west that they feel
0:01:48 pressured and maybe understandably so
0:01:51 because we're living in an age where the
0:01:54 dominant ethic of the world is the
0:01:56 liberal ethics not of the world I should
0:01:58 say I'm really the Western World and
0:02:00 being positioned in the western world as
0:02:02 Muslims is very difficult to escape the
0:02:05 claws of this ideology however what I
0:02:07 will say is this in fact
0:02:11 um really and truly you have to look at
0:02:12 liberalism as another religion it's
0:02:14 another religion in so much as it's a
0:02:16 transcendental idea with a set of
0:02:19 presuppositions which form their own
0:02:22 kind of morality and this in fact uh is
0:02:25 how some people like Charles Taylor and
0:02:28 other sociologists Define religion
0:02:30 itself
0:02:32 the example they gave though on the in
0:02:33 the video is not something which is as
0:02:36 controversial as one may think
0:02:38 it would be for example uh in the the
0:02:41 issue of slavery anyway Islamic slavery
0:02:45 which has nothing to do with the kind of
0:02:48 atrocious uh race-based transatlantic
0:02:52 slavery abuse that the Western white man
0:02:56 conducted for 400 years or older than
0:02:58 that in the transatlantic region not
0:03:01 we've got nothing to do with that so I
0:03:03 think first and foremost saying that
0:03:04 well the Quran allowed it but it didn't
0:03:06 allow that kind of slavery and that
0:03:08 needs to be very very clear because
0:03:10 quite frankly in the imagination of the
0:03:12 westerners this is when someone's a
0:03:14 slavery you imagine an innocent black
0:03:16 man being whipped or lynched or hurt and
0:03:20 racially abused now Islam does not and
0:03:22 has never allowed that kind of slavery
0:03:25 in fact there is a specific kind of
0:03:28 slavery which only we would say we are
0:03:31 allowed to have with Allah which is the
0:03:34 ultimate and unconditional obedience for
0:03:37 the prophet sallallahu alaihi told us
0:03:42 there is no obedience to the creation in
0:03:45 the Disobedience to the Creator so this
0:03:48 ultimate kind of slavery only exists
0:03:51 with Allah
0:03:52 with God Almighty as for indentured
0:03:55 servitude or selling and buying of
0:03:57 course this existed at the time of the
0:03:59 prophet and they're right to mention
0:04:00 that this was not something which was
0:04:02 abolished outright however well soles or
0:04:05 people who are Jewish Prudential experts
0:04:07 even before the formulation of
0:04:09 liberalism itself as a religion as an
0:04:12 ideology as a political ideology a
0:04:14 political philosophy
0:04:17 they made the same point as these
0:04:19 liberal Muslims are making which are
0:04:21 which is effectively that Islam is
0:04:25 attempting to move in the direction of
0:04:27 the abolition of slavery and of course
0:04:29 one of the eight categories of zakat is
0:04:32 for the freeing of slavery as is
0:04:35 mentioned
0:04:38 it's not the place or time to speak
0:04:40 about slavery here in great depth but
0:04:42 the point is the point they were making
0:04:44 was not specific or it's not um you
0:04:47 don't require to reinterpret the Quran
0:04:49 through liberalism in order to make this
0:04:51 point you could make the same point
0:04:53 which is that Islam effectively has an
0:04:57 emancipatory discourse as we would know
0:05:00 already if you read the total ballad and
0:05:01 just are memos of the people in chapter
0:05:03 91 and what I have memorized this
0:05:05 chapter young people in the Muslim World
0:05:08 um
0:05:10 is the good way freeing slaves is the
0:05:13 good way so in other words if one is
0:05:16 saying that because this seems to be the
0:05:18 thrust of the argument that in order for
0:05:20 us to do away with slavery we have to
0:05:21 embrace a new morality no because quite
0:05:24 frankly the Islamic or the quranic
0:05:26 message from the very beginning had a
0:05:28 very clear emancipatory discourse the
0:05:31 kind of so-called slavery that existed
0:05:33 then is nothing like what we're what
0:05:35 we're used to or you know in the West an
0:05:38 imagination or with racial slavery or
0:05:41 racism in general which is completely
0:05:43 outlawed in Islam you see because Islam
0:05:47 is the only ancient religion
0:05:49 that I know of which clearly
0:05:53 Outlaws racism
0:05:54 it's not in the Old Testament there's
0:05:56 not one verse in the Old Testament or in
0:05:59 the talmud or anything like that which
0:06:01 Outlaws racism effect to the contrary
0:06:03 there is you know this preferential
0:06:06 treatment that we're getting from the
0:06:07 tribe of Israel who God had to repent to
0:06:10 and lost to a wrestling match to the one
0:06:12 of the protagonists of and so on
0:06:14 Jacob no Islam as the the prophet told
0:06:19 us there is no superiority over a black
0:06:22 man over a white man or a white man or a
0:06:23 black man or an arable for a non-arab or
0:06:25 non-arable and Arab so I think it's very
0:06:27 important to make these points clear the
0:06:29 kind of slavery that people are talking
0:06:31 about which is morally uh totally
0:06:34 unacceptable is something that Islam had
0:06:37 nothing to do with in any time and the
0:06:39 prophet of Islam is completely absolved
0:06:41 from and the Quran is completely
0:06:43 absolved from we don't need the white
0:06:46 man who himself himself the white man
0:06:49 the liberal white man I'm not talking
0:06:51 about the color of your skin because
0:06:53 I've just said we don't believe in
0:06:54 racism we're talking about the
0:06:56 archetypal liberal white man
0:06:58 yes we don't need him to tell us what
0:07:00 morality is we don't need liberalism to
0:07:02 tell us that in fact we need you oh
0:07:05 liberalism you know torch bearers of
0:07:08 liberalism in order to know that slavery
0:07:10 is wrong because quite frankly slavery
0:07:12 coexisted with liberalism
0:07:15 think about when in America as a country
0:07:17 I think that woman was talking from when
0:07:20 it was outlawed as a constitutional
0:07:22 amendment I think the 13th Amendment in
0:07:24 America was in 1861 to 1865 when the
0:07:27 Civil War happened and as a result of it
0:07:30 slavery was outlawed but we know that
0:07:32 the founding fathers of America were
0:07:34 really
0:07:35 some of the main figures of liberalism
0:07:37 and all of them if not had slaves
0:07:39 themselves allowed it to happen
0:07:42 as you many of you will know that so
0:07:45 there's nothing intrinsic about
0:07:46 liberalism as an ideology
0:07:49 which for example to use this uh slavery
0:07:52 example that they gave without law or
0:07:54 without even Outlaw racism we know that
0:07:57 racism was something which existed uh in
0:08:00 fact justification was given uh Colonial
0:08:04 justification for racism even scientific
0:08:06 type Colonial justification so
0:08:09 this is a non-starter you have given us
0:08:11 no reason to switch Paradigm you've
0:08:14 given us no reason to go to liberalism
0:08:16 you have given us even your example was
0:08:18 a false example and unfortunately
0:08:21 unfortunately this is the pressure that
0:08:25 some people
0:08:26 you know have you know quite frankly in
0:08:29 the Muslim world have to go through but
0:08:30 because they came across very humbly I
0:08:32 don't want to put these people off I'll
0:08:34 say to this this lady young lady and to
0:08:36 the man uh
0:08:38 I'm saying to come back to
0:08:40 traditionalism come back to Quran come
0:08:42 back to the Sunnah come back to the
0:08:43 acquire of the salaf of the sayings of
0:08:46 the people of old come back to the
0:08:48 tradition come back because our
0:08:49 tradition as is not as rigid as you
0:08:52 think it is even the traditional
0:08:54 understanding of Islam is not as rigid
0:08:56 as you think it is I mentioned very
0:08:58 famously he said
0:09:02 if the situation gets very constrained
0:09:06 then the Sharia becomes very flexible
0:09:11 the opposite is true
0:09:13 when the situation becomes very flexible
0:09:15 then the share becomes more strict so we
0:09:18 have an inbuilt flexibility without the
0:09:20 within the credit scores this was
0:09:21 something understood with the early
0:09:23 people remember Shafi being one of them
0:09:25 so you don't need
0:09:27 you know white Colonial discourses or
0:09:29 dominant paradigms of the West in order
0:09:31 to really come to these conclusions we
0:09:34 don't need any anything outside of our
0:09:35 guidance you know
0:09:37 of the Quran Sunnah and hopefully this
0:09:39 convinces
0:09:41 hey you are you wasting your time on
0:09:44 social media again
0:09:52 establishing a Masjid to convey The
0:09:54 Message of Islam is one of the best
0:09:56 Deeds a Muslim can do there's a huge
0:09:59 need for it in Norway you know this and
0:10:01 I know this so that makes the Lord even
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