Diet, Self-defence, Khamzat Chimaev and Philosophy. MH Podcast - Firas Zahabi (2022-03-29)

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Firas Zahabi discusses the importance of diet and self-defense, and gives advice on how to avoid being submissionlocked. He shares a video of him sparring with a very large man, demonstrating how he can easily control him through grip strength and positioning. He notes that not all situations are the same, and that in some cases, a stronger opponent may be easier to submit.

00:00:00 The presenter discusses the various diets and fitness plans available to Muslims, and provides an explanation of the importance of choosing a diet that an individual can live with for the rest of their life. He also discusses the importance of protein in a diet, and how glycogen storage is related to carbohydrate intake.

00:05:00 Discusses the argument between those who believe that a vegan diet is better for health and those who believe that a meat-based diet is better for health. discusses how, based on personal research, diets high in carbohydrates or meats can lead to health problems.
00:10:00 Firas Zahabi discusses the benefits of intermittent fasting for people who want to maintain their youth. He also discusses the definition and importance of autophagy.
00:15:00 Discusses the benefits of fasting, including combating cancer and improving hormone levels. It also discusses the importance of hydration while fasting, and advises against drinking milk while fasting.
00:20:00 Firas Zahabi discusses the benefits of punching bags for general fitness and self-defense. He recommends starting with a bag workout and moving onto other types of physical activity as your fitness level increases. He also warns that some people may be reinforcing bad habits by providing instruction without oversight. He recommends finding a reputable instructor online and recommends starting with boxing before moving on to other martial arts.
00:25:00 MH discusses the importance of fitness and self-defense, and gives advice on how to avoid being submissionlocked. He shares a video of him sparring with a very large man, demonstrating how he can easily control him through grip strength and positioning. He notes that not all situations are the same, and that in some cases, a stronger opponent may be easier to submit.
00:30:00 coach Zahabi discusses the importance of stability training and the dangers of doing dangerous exercises. He also provides a catchy catchphrase for the touch of death.
00:35:00 According to the speaker, the most dangerous sport is not one of the traditional physical sports, but rather grappling and martial arts. He believes that all participants in these sports should have a black belt in jiu-jitsu in order to have the best chance of avoiding injuries.
00:40:00 Discusses how he believes that different styles of training can work together to produce a strong fighter. He points to the example of Dagestan, where wrestling is done in a playful and relaxed manner, as a key to their success. He also discusses the importance of teaching and training the correct way, emphasizing the need for athletes to learn how to use their technique correctly and without force.
00:45:00 MH discusses his thoughts on diet and self-defense with Khamzat Chimaev, a wrestler and martial artist. Chimaev argues that wrestling is more technical and superior, and that this has to do with state funding and the culture of learning. He also discusses how education is seen differently in different cultures and how this can have a positive or negative impact on a person's development. Chimaev argues that both sides have something to learn from each other.
00:50:00 Firas Zahabi discusses the extent to which fathers should be responsible over their children and the importance of having conversations with them. He also discusses how his sons have turned into bitcoiners and how he tries to teach them everything.
00:55:00 Firas Zahabi, a martial artist and philosopher, discusses the importance of taking care of oneself and one's family, and how one should train their children to be responsible and take care of others. He also discusses the drawbacks of some martial arts systems, which may lead to addiction and dysfunction after a person retires from fighting.

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, Firas Zahabi discusses the philosophy of Khamzat Chimaev, who argued that what we know as "nature" is actually nothing more than our projections of our minds. Chimaev believed that there is no objective reality beyond our perceptions, and that knowledge is simply a product of our understanding of particular observations.

01:00:00 Firas Zahabi discusses the pros and cons of two different types of fighting: stand-up and ground. He believes that if Hamza Chimaev can defeat Bernardo Vieira in a grappling match, it will demonstrate his superiority in that area.

01:05:00 , world champion boxing fighter Firas Zahabi discusses the philosophies that guide his training and fighting. He notes that he spends two to five hours a day studying and training, and that he would put Khabib Nurmagomedov over any other fighter in the world.
01:10:00 Firas Zahabi discusses how philosophy and religion can help one gain a better understanding of the spiritual aspects of Islam. He also discusses how Ghazali's work on logic and belief can be helpful in understanding the Quran. He talks about how certainty can be found only through belief in a deity, and how the Quran touches on many aspects of logic.
01:15:00 , Firas Zahabi discusses the philosophy of Khamzat Chimaev, who argued that what we know as "nature" is actually nothing more than our projections of our minds. Chimaev believed that there is no objective reality beyond our perceptions, and that knowledge is simply a product of our understanding of particular observations.
01:20:00 Firas Zahabi discusses how the concept of a god is relative, and how one can only truly understand and believe in a god after experiencing it themselves. He also discusses the idea of polytheism, which is the belief in multiple gods.
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0:00:00 muslims in norway are now establishing a 0:00:02 masjid and dawa center to enhance the 0:00:04 norwegian dawah if you donate to this 0:00:06 cause you will ensure allah reap the 0:00:08 rewards of thousands of muslims coming 0:00:11 back to islam and many of those who 0:00:13 become dwight and invite to islam so 0:00:15 click the link and donate now and share 0:00:18 the video for extra reward 0:00:26 assalamu alaikum 0:00:28 welcome to another episode of the mh 0:00:30 podcast the most irregular podcast 0:00:34 on the internet today and i'm joined 0:00:35 with none other 0:00:36 uh than the infamous the legendary for 0:00:39 us zahabi or the habi you would say 0:00:42 properly in the arabic languages man 0:00:44 just for those who don't know just a 0:00:46 quick introduction probably one of the 0:00:48 most notorious 0:00:49 and celebrated mma coaches in the world 0:00:52 today 0:00:53 has coached john st pierre who's 0:00:56 noted as seen as the pound-for-pound 0:00:59 best fighter in the world rory mcdonald 0:01:00 and other fighters 0:01:02 as well um he's um the head coach at 0:01:05 tristar gym a gym which is seen as one 0:01:08 of the best gyms 0:01:09 for mma from his martial arts in the 0:01:11 entire world at least in the top five or 0:01:13 top 10 at least 0:01:15 been ranked like that and um and also a 0:01:18 philosopher in his own right and someone 0:01:20 who's uh 0:01:21 has uh has contributed quite strongly i 0:01:23 think in the in the public discourse on 0:01:25 the youtube scene in the last two to 0:01:28 three years for us how are you doing 0:01:30 thank you for having me oh it's a 0:01:32 pleasure to actually be able to see you 0:01:33 in the flesh 0:01:35 you know finally you know you're in here 0:01:36 my flesh 0:01:38 you know 0:01:39 there's a lot to talk to you about um 0:01:41 and i'm just thinking where to start 0:01:43 um and what we usually talk about we 0:01:45 usually talk about feel philosophical 0:01:46 issues and i'm sure we will i mean we 0:01:48 are going to talk about that today as 0:01:50 well um 0:01:51 but what i wanted to start by talking to 0:01:54 you about really was something quite imp 0:01:56 important for the muslim community and 0:01:58 for many computers communities are going 0:02:00 to be watching this relating to health 0:02:01 and fitness we've had these kind of 0:02:02 conversations when we're having lunch as 0:02:04 well 0:02:05 but i think some of the gems that you 0:02:06 were kind of putting forward to us need 0:02:09 to be 0:02:10 said to the public 0:02:11 now 0:02:12 a lot of us nowadays we we have so many 0:02:15 diet plans to choose from 0:02:17 we've got the carnivorous diet we have 0:02:19 the ketogenic diet we have uh vegan 0:02:22 vegan diet uh you know we have calorie 0:02:24 deficit we have you know fat fat deficit 0:02:27 so many deficits so many different diets 0:02:30 uh it's intermittent fasting has become 0:02:32 really big there's so many different 0:02:34 youtubers now that are on the scene that 0:02:36 given their own diet plans 0:02:38 this is becoming so confusing now mm-hmm 0:02:41 honestly it's i'm speaking from 0:02:43 experience when you it's almost as if 0:02:46 now there's competing schools of thought 0:02:48 you have the keto school of thought 0:02:49 where everything keto is good you know 0:02:52 and you have people that you know the 0:02:53 solution 0:02:54 to everything is ketogenic diet and 0:02:56 intermittent fasting and then you have 0:02:57 other people that say no actually no 0:02:59 this is nonsense let's go the opposite 0:03:00 way 0:03:01 or the carnivorous diet which is quite 0:03:03 close to quito 0:03:05 what do we do 0:03:07 i would say i love uh there's a paul 0:03:08 check quote that i absolutely love he 0:03:10 says look we're as different on the 0:03:11 inside as we are on the outside it's 0:03:13 such an important quote because it's 0:03:14 true look at the differences we have on 0:03:15 the outside you're not everybody's gonna 0:03:18 react the same way to the same diet 0:03:21 so there's some exploration now i i 0:03:23 personally think that 0:03:25 you should 0:03:26 try to choose a diet that you can live 0:03:27 with for the rest of your life 0:03:30 so if me personally i can't do keto i 0:03:32 can do keto for a little while then i 0:03:34 get bored of it i want to eat 0:03:35 carbohydrates i have i'm drawn to 0:03:36 carbohydrates i love carbohydrates 0:03:39 so my diet is is mostly high carb low 0:03:42 fat 0:03:43 really yeah i'm more high carb low fat i 0:03:45 perform better i've experimented with 0:03:47 different diets i'm more comfortable 0:03:49 with why does protein fit into that five 0:03:51 cell um i have i have proteins but if i 0:03:53 want to lean up i go more towards egg 0:03:55 whites egg whites are high protein low 0:03:57 fat so i want a low fat source chicken 0:03:59 breast a low fat source of 0:04:01 uh 0:04:03 flesh foods proteins so as a percentage 0:04:05 let's just kind of give this a visual if 0:04:07 a hundred percent is you've got carbs i 0:04:09 mean this is simplistic but you've got 0:04:10 carbs proteins and protein uh 0:04:12 fats and proteins right 0:04:14 what kind of percentage are we looking 0:04:15 at here i would say 70 percent is carbs 0:04:18 i eat a lot but i train a lot if you 0:04:20 train less you don't need that many 0:04:21 carbs now these keto guys i think this 0:04:23 guy's uh you're crazy these guys 0:04:25 you guys 0:04:27 don't forget i'm in a glycogenic sport 0:04:29 that means i need i primarily use 0:04:31 carbohydrates 0:04:32 for fuel right okay so it's normal if 0:04:34 i'm gonna wake up in the morning and go 0:04:35 wrestle and i'm gonna go at night 0:04:37 wrestle again you need a lot of 0:04:38 carbohydrates yes you don't need so much 0:04:40 carbohydrates if you're just working 0:04:42 behind the desk i would tell you get 0:04:43 your carbs from greens eat more greens 0:04:45 when i say carbs i mean starches and 0:04:47 keto ketones are not a substitute for 0:04:49 carbohydrates you're saying no not at 0:04:51 all because ketones 0:04:53 see if your body wants to metabolize fat 0:04:55 for energy it takes longer there's a 0:04:57 longer process 0:04:58 so if you're wrestling and you want to 0:05:00 grab a guy and lift them up in the air 0:05:01 you need the energy now you need 0:05:02 glycogen in your muscle the glycogen in 0:05:04 your muscle gets transformed to energy 0:05:06 immediately when the muscle contracts it 0:05:09 uses that that 0:05:11 that energy that's stored in the muscle 0:05:12 itself 0:05:13 if you're running a marathon if you're 0:05:15 doing aerobic work 0:05:17 it's lower intensity then your body can 0:05:20 use fats very successfully so you have 0:05:22 aerobic champions in aerobic sports that 0:05:24 only uh work on fats but there are no 0:05:26 sprinters 100-meter sprinters 0:05:28 high-intensity athletes that work only 0:05:30 on fats it doesn't exist 0:05:32 so what sport are you in this is very 0:05:34 important yeah you'll never see a guy 0:05:36 who's high fat low carb doesn't carb up 0:05:39 the day of the 100 meter race now 0:05:40 sometimes they do it 0:05:42 it's a bit complicated sometimes they go 0:05:44 on a short phase of ketogenic like mma 0:05:46 fighters will go on a ketogenic diet low 0:05:48 carb diet just to drop the water 0:05:50 because 0:05:51 the way your body stores carbs is one 0:05:53 part carbohydrate or one part glycogen 0:05:55 actually i should say 0:05:56 three parts water so you have a lot of 0:05:58 water 0:05:58 when you eat carbs you retain more water 0:06:00 so we temporarily take away their carbs 0:06:02 let them shed that water 0:06:04 they lose weight after the weigh-in we 0:06:06 carved them up okay so to keep this 0:06:08 really simple look what kind of sport 0:06:10 are you in if you're in a sport that's 0:06:11 high-intensity eat carbs now i think 0:06:13 everybody should like i think the vast 0:06:15 majority of people will do well on what 0:06:17 they call a book called the starch 0:06:19 solution 0:06:20 you eat 0:06:21 it's a it's basically i'm not vegan okay 0:06:23 but i'm i'm 0:06:25 i don't believe we need so much animal 0:06:27 products okay there's a animal products 0:06:29 are really pushed on us because 0:06:31 i think it's it's big business right i 0:06:34 do believe in eating meat i think you 0:06:35 can have a deficiency on vegan diet long 0:06:36 term you can have problems what do you 0:06:38 think of just on this point what do you 0:06:39 think of the arguments that are being 0:06:41 put by many who kind of have a vegan 0:06:43 diet um the chi i think the china study 0:06:46 whatever of the meat and they say it's 0:06:48 um it brings you know there's a 0:06:50 correlation between cancer for example 0:06:52 um 0:06:54 to what extent do you kind of look at is 0:06:55 it meat or excessive amounts of meat 0:06:57 that's why i differentiate okay i think 0:06:59 eating meat three times a day is crazy i 0:07:00 think it's insane you might as well be a 0:07:02 smoker right okay you don't need that 0:07:04 much meat okay now i like to eat meat 0:07:06 when we're sitting around in a social 0:07:08 gathering okay somebody cooked meat 0:07:09 let's eat it and that includes fish by 0:07:11 the way 0:07:12 every type of animal product right even 0:07:14 if it's even 0:07:15 eggs and cheese every single animal 0:07:18 product mass-produced product in in one 0:07:20 way or another they they've 0:07:22 i hate to use the word poisoned it but 0:07:23 they they've done some bad things to it 0:07:26 yes you can get away 0:07:27 around it because 0:07:29 if you want to mass produce it they have 0:07:31 to mess with it 0:07:34 that's almost true of all our foods but 0:07:35 grains rice oatmeal pastas 0:07:39 if you have if you if you take in low 0:07:41 fat high carb you won't get fat just 0:07:43 like you won't get fat if you do high 0:07:45 fat low carb you could do it the other 0:07:47 way around 0:07:48 i prefer 0:07:49 high carb low fat because i'm in a 0:07:51 glycogen export i need that glycogen and 0:07:52 i feel full and satisfied one book i 0:07:54 really recommend is the starch 0:07:57 starch solution by john mcdougall 0:08:00 i think it's a fantastic book i think 0:08:01 people should try it 0:08:03 because you'll feel 0:08:04 very very good however i do believe he 0:08:06 goes too far i'm more of a nutritarian 0:08:08 like a joel furman where he gives you a 0:08:10 little more allowance of fat and meat 0:08:13 i think you should have meat once a day 0:08:16 if you're very active even once a week 0:08:17 from once a day to once but once a day 0:08:19 is too much even i think way too much 0:08:21 and if you eat meat should be like a 0:08:22 deck of cards not more 0:08:24 we eat too much animal products now look 0:08:26 my favorite thing to eat and for me is 0:08:28 steak so sometimes i make myself a nice 0:08:30 juicy steak i treat myself once in a 0:08:32 while 0:08:33 but you got to start equating steak with 0:08:36 like smoking would you do it every day 0:08:38 no i would do three times a day no like 0:08:40 be careful with eating meat it's not 0:08:41 healthy long term now a great example of 0:08:44 this is the okinawans the okinawans are 0:08:46 mainly vegan they eat sweet potato rice 0:08:48 vegetable and they eat fresh foods once 0:08:51 a month 0:08:54 so 0:08:55 how do we know all this well we observe 0:08:58 different uh different uh cultures how 0:09:00 they ate 0:09:02 like for instance the the inuits they 0:09:04 only eat fish 0:09:06 the age the the past in the united 0:09:08 states of the past today they have more 0:09:09 modern foods okay but 0:09:10 back in the day they used to eat mostly 0:09:12 fish you know they live in the arctic 0:09:14 yeah there's no uh grains there's no 0:09:16 vegetables good point here they never 0:09:18 die of heart disease because they're 0:09:19 eating fish but they die of cancer 0:09:22 so we know that too much eating 0:09:25 flesh foods can lead to cancer again 0:09:27 there's always more elements there's 0:09:28 always more to the story it's always 0:09:30 more complicated however there is a 0:09:31 there is a correlation between eating 0:09:33 fresh foods 0:09:35 and cancer 0:09:37 so and and many other ailments so i 0:09:38 would tell you that personally from my 0:09:41 researches and studying this for so many 0:09:42 years i would tell you that 0:09:46 i'm not vegan because i think also 0:09:47 veganism will lead to problems yeah 0:09:50 vitamin deficiency problems yeah calcium 0:09:52 deficiency 0:09:53 loss of muscle okay they try to say no 0:09:55 you don't need it i don't i've i believe 0:09:57 you lose muscle i would love to debate 0:09:58 somebody who who says it different 0:10:00 because you can get your proteins on a 0:10:02 plant diet but it's hard it's difficult 0:10:04 most people won't do it right it's 0:10:06 complicated that's my point it's complex 0:10:08 vegan diet you have to you have to be 0:10:09 you have to know so much about 0:10:11 everything it's very complicated so i 0:10:13 don't recommend it but i recommend 0:10:16 because you see when the animal eats 0:10:17 certain nutrients and you eat that 0:10:19 animal you get those nutrients 0:10:22 make it simple just eat a serving of 0:10:24 meat two to three times a week and again 0:10:26 it can vary some people will do better 0:10:28 on one portion of meat a week some 0:10:30 people do better on one portion of meat 0:10:32 per month you have to experiment 0:10:34 so me when i feel my best is when i have 0:10:37 meat let's say three times a week and 0:10:38 i'm talking about small portions of meat 0:10:40 that's when i'm feeling my best i feel 0:10:41 the most energy i feel the most active i 0:10:43 feel the most lean i feel the most 0:10:45 vibrant 0:10:46 so 0:10:47 there's a lot to say with cutting out 0:10:49 animal products but people are so 0:10:51 conditioned that if they don't eat 0:10:52 animal products something bad is going 0:10:53 to happen it's not true it's actually 0:10:55 the opposite when you lower your animal 0:10:56 products 0:10:58 your cardio will go up your well-being 0:11:00 will go up your energy will go up 0:11:01 everything will go up you don't need so 0:11:04 much flesh food 0:11:07 and so so okay you've kind of alluded to 0:11:10 the fact that going vegan sometimes is i 0:11:13 mean maybe i'm reading this wrong but 0:11:14 being being vegan sometimes is a good 0:11:16 thing 0:11:17 but you've also said that we need meat 0:11:19 so how would you play it so you got 52 0:11:20 weeks in a year 0:11:22 you got 365 days do you do it in such a 0:11:24 way that okay like your one week on one 0:11:26 week off or how do you how would you 0:11:27 play it i would i would recommend people 0:11:29 try eating meat if you eat meat every 0:11:31 day yeah try to even eat three three 0:11:34 portions a week now lower it then go to 0:11:37 once a week 0:11:38 slowly work your way don't do anything 0:11:40 drastic 0:11:41 does that apply with like animal 0:11:42 products as well actually everything 0:11:43 that comes from jesus jesus everything 0:11:45 the 0:11:46 the farming industry has completely 0:11:48 polluted our food 0:11:50 everything has been touched 0:11:52 unless you're ready to spend a million 0:11:53 dollars on your food a year you can't 0:11:55 eat untainted foods it's very difficult 0:11:57 okay like i'm a million dollars in 0:11:58 exaggeration i'm just trying to 0:12:00 spend a lot of money trying to get 0:12:02 organic never been touched by anybody 0:12:04 food it's tough 0:12:06 um i really recommend people experiment 0:12:08 with lowering the amount of fresh foods 0:12:10 they eat we've been we've been 0:12:12 brainwashed we've been marketed to 0:12:15 to eat milk cheese uh flesh foods this 0:12:18 is very important this is number one 0:12:20 it's not true it's not true so you're 0:12:22 saying go down so you're down if you're 0:12:24 eating it three times a day go once 0:12:27 oh yeah if you're eating me three times 0:12:28 a day you're killing yourself like i 0:12:29 don't see how you could function like i 0:12:31 i couldn't picture myself eating meat 0:12:32 three times a day i used to what should 0:12:34 i like then in the morning i eat 0:12:36 generally oatmeal okay i think oatmeal 0:12:37 is the ultimate breakfast because it 0:12:39 makes you feel satiated for longer about 0:12:40 eggs and stuff no eggs no if i eat eggs 0:12:43 for pleasure if i'm sitting down it's a 0:12:44 saturday morning and i'm eating with my 0:12:46 family we'll make eggs it's a i love 0:12:48 eggs i can eat eggs every day if you 0:12:50 give me but because of the consequence 0:12:51 of eating eggs every day i do not eat 0:12:53 eggs every day okay but in terms of 0:12:54 enjoyment i don't know there's nothing 0:12:56 more i love than toasting eggs in the 0:12:57 morning 0:12:59 i'll have eggs once in a while but 0:13:00 having eggs every day is bad for you in 0:13:02 my opinion it's not good 0:13:03 all right so that's breakfast so what's 0:13:05 lunch like for you 0:13:07 lunch i'll have rice potato salad 0:13:10 and a little bit of meat maybe 0:13:12 if i'm training really hard 0:13:14 chicken okay a lean chicken you got to 0:13:16 try to keep it lean and a small portion 0:13:17 like we're talking about a deck of cards 0:13:19 what about dinner 0:13:21 dinner i'll probably do something like 0:13:23 uh it'll be very similar to lunch it'll 0:13:25 be a 0:13:26 pasta or or 0:13:28 rice or 0:13:29 a sweet potato with a little ketchup 0:13:32 maybe a few fruit you know i try to keep 0:13:34 fruit low as well and i do a lot of 0:13:37 lentils sometimes i'll make hummus with 0:13:39 bread hummus and bread it's vegan it's 0:13:41 good if you have that right so that's it 0:13:42 that's enough and sometimes i don't even 0:13:44 eat dinner when i want to lose weight i 0:13:46 don't even eat dinner i'll eat from ten 0:13:47 to six 0:13:48 so for me i go to practice after six so 0:13:50 after training there's no there's no 0:13:52 meal after i drink water and go to bed 0:13:53 that's it 0:13:55 and so do you have only three meals a 0:13:56 day 0:13:58 um 0:13:59 i eat about three meals a day with with 0:14:01 a few snacks but in a window small 0:14:03 window and i think people have to learn 0:14:04 to skip meals okay tell us about 0:14:07 intermittent fasting because this is a 0:14:08 big thing for you isn't it intermittent 0:14:10 fasting is huge if you want to keep your 0:14:11 youth yeah intermittent fasting is 0:14:13 massive what is it first of all for 0:14:15 those of you intermittent fasting is 0:14:19 it's hard to define because you could 0:14:20 say look i fast it for 12 hours is that 0:14:22 intimate fasting yes but a very a very 0:14:24 beginner level so i always tell people 0:14:26 look try to eat from nine to nine 0:14:28 then from nine am to eight 0:14:30 from nine to seven and slowly because it 0:14:32 gets easier 0:14:33 then all of a sudden you're eating from 0:14:35 nine to six and you're full after six 0:14:36 you don't want to eat anymore what are 0:14:37 the benefits of that when you don't eat 0:14:40 for at least 16 hours 0:14:42 about 16 hours now this is a 0:14:43 guesstimation okay it's not exactly the 0:14:44 16 hours for everybody depending on how 0:14:46 how how much you exercise how much you 0:14:48 ate the day before et cetera but 0:14:49 approximately 16 hours we know that a 0:14:51 phenomenon now we that they call 0:14:53 autophagy the nobel prize was given for 0:14:55 this discovery in 2016. so it's a 0:14:58 scientific fact autophagy is a greek 0:15:00 word for 0:15:01 uh self-digestion your body when it 0:15:03 after 16 hours of eating starts to eat 0:15:05 itself without eating sources after 16 0:15:07 hours of no food no intake 0:15:10 your body starts to consume its own 0:15:11 cells 0:15:13 the cells that it'll consume first 0:15:15 are the more uh 0:15:17 the poorest cells the weakest cells the 0:15:19 the the poorly replicated cells i should 0:15:21 say 0:15:22 and those are the cells that are toxic 0:15:24 cancerous etc i'm relying on the work of 0:15:26 jason fong okay i'm not a biologist here 0:15:28 but jason's fund's work uh the 0:15:31 all you need to know about fasting he 0:15:32 goes into it he has a great book called 0:15:34 all you need to know about fasting he 0:15:35 has a few books on fasting and uh he 0:15:38 talks about how his claim not mine that 0:15:40 even fasting combats cancer 0:15:43 and for this reason for autophagy again 0:15:45 if you want to get into the specifics 0:15:46 you have to rely on his work he's a 0:15:48 doctor out of toronto he's the one who 0:15:49 helped georgetown pierre uh 0:15:51 combat uh 0:15:52 his uh colitis without drugs without 0:15:55 using drugs just using fasting 0:15:57 and he did it successfully 0:15:59 and uh many of us started fasting after 0:16:01 that as well and we saw a huge benefit 0:16:03 that of course we fast because we're 0:16:04 muslim since we're young 0:16:06 but 0:16:07 doing fasting throughout the year also 0:16:08 has major benefits and i feel that um 0:16:12 it's something that's 0:16:13 very very beneficial even for your 0:16:15 hormones 0:16:16 however i think again it should be 0:16:17 gradual and there's two you can go too 0:16:19 far you can fast for too long and make 0:16:21 yourself weak and frail we don't want to 0:16:23 fast for too long 0:16:25 16 hours of fasting seems to be really 0:16:27 good 0:16:28 and 0:16:29 some you can experiment with 18 0:16:30 sometimes i even do one meal a day 0:16:34 like today i i we ate a meal together 0:16:36 that's my only meal for the day and last 0:16:38 time i ate was yesterday morning wow so 0:16:40 that's it for today why because today 0:16:41 i'm not training i'm not exercising i'm 0:16:42 doing very little i have a wake-up call 0:16:44 if you're training then you do what two 0:16:46 i would i wouldn't have eaten such a 0:16:47 large meal and i would have i would have 0:16:49 ate throughout the day i see so it could 0:16:51 be digested when i get to practice 0:16:53 so look i really believe i really like 0:16:55 this app called the fast tick 0:16:58 f-a-s-t-i-c because it kind of gives you 0:17:01 the road map of what your body's doing 0:17:03 so you start fasting you click the 0:17:05 button it tells you what phase you're in 0:17:06 you don't get commissioned for saying no 0:17:07 no 0:17:09 no it's it's a great app because it kind 0:17:11 of like 0:17:12 it explains to you why you're feeling 0:17:13 this way oh my god i'm feeling like this 0:17:15 yeah don't worry wait a little bit 0:17:16 longer your blood sugar levels are going 0:17:18 to stabilize and it does and it's just a 0:17:20 great way to train yourself to know the 0:17:22 different phases of fasting and fasting 0:17:24 the great thing about fasting can be 0:17:25 quite addictive 0:17:26 because if you fast long often enough 0:17:28 you start actually to get a 0:17:30 cognitively uh charged 0:17:33 start being really alert really yeah 0:17:35 yeah plato wouldn't uh 0:17:36 uh except students that were in a fasted 0:17:38 state 0:17:39 because you become cognitively charged 0:17:41 oh yeah absolutely yeah yeah you can be 0:17:44 if you fast long enough intensely enough 0:17:46 over a time 0:17:48 you will have this cognitive charge it's 0:17:50 hard to explain but it's just a mental 0:17:52 alertness it's kind of like drinking 0:17:53 five espressos you know it's an 0:17:54 enjoyable feeling because 0:17:56 when you when you eat all the time the 0:17:59 blood flow goes towards the stomach it 0:18:00 drains blood from the brain it does make 0:18:02 there's a chain reaction but after a 0:18:04 while of not eating you're totally 0:18:06 totally digested 0:18:08 you've given your system a break 0:18:11 your system seems to one way or another 0:18:14 have more energy for some people say 0:18:15 it's the ketones because your body 0:18:16 starts burning ketones and ketones it's 0:18:18 almost like hey your body's starving 0:18:20 give him the good fuel let him find 0:18:21 resources right now you know make him 0:18:23 super alert make him super cognitive 0:18:25 because he 0:18:26 again this is a narrative i'm just 0:18:28 giving you a nerve 0:18:29 give him the really good stuff the 0:18:30 ketones so that he goes out in nature 0:18:32 and finds some resources 0:18:34 you know make him super alert uh you get 0:18:36 this level of a heightened awareness 0:18:39 that comes with prolonged 0:18:40 fasting and so 0:18:43 what breaks your fast because 0:18:45 people might be thinking about dry fats 0:18:46 right now that's the kind of only 0:18:48 experience they may have had the ramadan 0:18:50 fast for example 0:18:51 so you're not talking about that you're 0:18:53 what you can still drink water right 0:18:54 yeah especially because we're training 0:18:56 throughout the day we need water that's 0:18:57 number one yeah two percent dehydration 0:18:59 equals six percent loss in performance 0:19:01 say that again two percent dehydration 0:19:04 really 0:19:05 equates to six percent loss in 0:19:07 performance now this is uh this study 0:19:10 was done on soldiers running through 0:19:11 gauntlets they have to run shoot et 0:19:12 cetera 0:19:13 and they can only ethically dehydrate 0:19:15 them two percent not more so all we have 0:19:17 is two percent studies on two percent 0:19:19 dehydration imagine there may be a law 0:19:21 of diminishing returns right could be 0:19:22 yeah 0:19:23 but ethically they say they can only go 0:19:25 two percent so what happens 0:19:27 they got six percent and they say even 0:19:29 the top of the top 0:19:31 soldiers had a diminished 0:19:33 ability by six percent yeah so it 0:19:35 doesn't matter how tough you are you 0:19:36 need hydration hydration is more 0:19:38 important even than food you said you 0:19:39 could also have black coffee right black 0:19:41 coffee tea 0:19:43 and uh water 0:19:45 what's that no no no no milk milk will 0:19:47 will spike your insulin so you have a 0:19:48 java insulin response which you don't 0:19:50 want during your fast 0:19:51 okay now this is in relation to 0:19:54 diet i think you've kind of covered a 0:19:56 lot of bases there and that maybe many 0:19:58 people will be changing their lives for 0:19:59 the better and that's what we're really 0:20:01 hoping for because 0:20:02 last time we had this conversation you 0:20:04 you spoke you gave a very 0:20:06 very succinct piece of advice and i 0:20:08 actually went viral i'm not sure if you 0:20:09 know 0:20:10 it got like 400 500 000 views or 0:20:12 something like that just how to lose 0:20:14 weight and 0:20:15 people really really enjoyed it and 0:20:17 that's why i think i started 0:20:18 with that this time um i want to talk a 0:20:21 bit about 0:20:22 before we get to self-defense obviously 0:20:24 which is your area of specialism 0:20:27 to 0:20:28 training more generally for people that 0:20:30 may not necessarily be into self-defense 0:20:33 or 0:20:34 may have kind of weakened because of the 0:20:37 years the wear and tear of whatever 0:20:39 they want to get into a gym program just 0:20:41 a normal gym program what would you 0:20:43 recommend for a beginner 0:20:45 i think the number one workout for just 0:20:48 general fitness is a 0:20:51 bag workout a punching bag workout 0:20:52 really it's the ultimate i'll tell you 0:20:54 why 0:20:55 number one you're learning a skill 0:20:56 you're learning how to throw a good 0:20:57 punch 0:20:58 if you get up every day and you hit the 0:20:59 back for a few minutes before you go to 0:21:01 work compare that to somebody who's 0:21:03 running on a treadmill 0:21:05 the guy hitting the bag is going to have 0:21:07 less injury 0:21:08 the guy running 0:21:10 is going to have more injury yeah the 0:21:11 guy hitting the bag is going to have 0:21:12 less inflammation that guy running is 0:21:14 going to have more inflammation the guy 0:21:15 hitting the back is gonna have higher 0:21:16 testosterone the guy running is gonna 0:21:17 have lower testosterone like you beat 0:21:18 him every which way plus if we ever get 0:21:20 into an altercation he's gonna run i'm 0:21:22 not 0:21:22 you know what i mean like you could 0:21:23 throw a good punch you could defend 0:21:25 yourself you're also cultivating a skill 0:21:27 so what i tell people is the thing is 0:21:29 like when you run 0:21:31 you can get overuse injuries especially 0:21:32 if your technique is poor and most 0:21:34 people's running technique is poor 0:21:36 unknowingly 0:21:37 their mechanics have been changed 0:21:38 because they're wearing shoes 0:21:40 if you look at barefoot runners versus 0:21:42 people who learn to run in shoes their 0:21:43 mechanics are different 0:21:45 the best mechanics are those who learn 0:21:47 how to run barefoot third world 0:21:48 countries they're the best at the 0:21:49 kenyans etc 0:21:52 so because we have poor running 0:21:54 mechanics if you run for a prolonged 0:21:55 period of time your knee starts hurting 0:21:56 you your hip starts hurting you i have 0:21:57 one of my students he's an orthopedic 0:21:59 surgeon and i asked him which sport has 0:22:00 the most injuries he said runners 0:22:03 runners it's incredible like they 0:22:04 injured themselves by prolonged running 0:22:06 over years 0:22:08 so when you work the heavy bag but you 0:22:10 need to do it with instruction like for 0:22:12 example you're saying that you learn a 0:22:13 new skill but if the person just doing 0:22:14 on their own volition with their own 0:22:16 devices right yeah they could be kind of 0:22:18 reinforcing bad habits right yeah true 0:22:20 but what's so good about our day and age 0:22:21 is that you can easily get a digital 0:22:24 coach 0:22:25 go on youtube there's a thousand one 0:22:26 tutorials how to jab how to throw right 0:22:28 it's good that because if someone is if 0:22:29 if someone does that say and the person 0:22:32 is not overseeing what they're doing and 0:22:33 then correcting them then is there still 0:22:36 the issue of reinforcement of background 0:22:37 i think over years look if you're 0:22:39 looking to be a world-class boxer then 0:22:41 yeah you need a coach yeah yeah but if 0:22:42 you're just a layman you know if you're 0:22:43 a regular joe learning just getting in 0:22:45 shape i think it's more than enough a 0:22:46 digital tutorial is plenty but what i 0:22:48 see a lot of is a lot of people that go 0:22:50 into personal training and get personal 0:22:51 trainers and they do like pad work and 0:22:53 stuff and the personal trainer is not a 0:22:56 trained martial artist so he will teach 0:22:57 the client 0:22:59 a technique which is not a correct one 0:23:01 could that be more harmful than good i 0:23:03 think there are levels of instructors 0:23:05 some can do more harm than good but the 0:23:06 vast majority boxing is a known art like 0:23:08 if you go around the world they have 0:23:09 boxing yeah yeah and there are different 0:23:10 levels of boxing instruction but it's 0:23:12 fairly good yes so i would say you know 0:23:15 find yourself a a a reputable instructor 0:23:18 online are you saying boxing are you 0:23:19 saying kickboxing 0:23:20 both i would start with boxing graduate 0:23:22 to kickboxing go to muay thai 0:23:24 because the thing is with punching bag 0:23:25 you can you can you don't even have to 0:23:27 hit the bag hard let's say your 0:23:28 shoulders are sore just kind of you can 0:23:30 even shadow box zero impact very good 0:23:32 cardio yep and i like to mix bag work 0:23:34 with calisthenics right so i like to do 0:23:36 one minute hitting the bag one minute 0:23:38 swinging a kettlebell so i put on mma 0:23:39 gloves so i can swing the kettlebell one 0:23:41 minute hitting the back one minute 0:23:42 getting ball i do that for maybe six 0:23:44 minutes take a break 0:23:45 repeat it one more time 0:23:47 and then like even kettlebell might be a 0:23:49 little bit for some okay do push ups and 0:23:50 squats one minute exercise one minute 0:23:52 hitting the back one minute exercise one 0:23:54 it's a phenomenal workout what about 0:23:56 when you're sorry to cut your hair oh no 0:23:57 please but you know when you said shadow 0:23:59 boxing right when you're when you're 0:24:01 doing that 0:24:02 before you start the round are you 0:24:03 thinking this is what i want to 0:24:04 establish in my shadow boxing round i 0:24:06 want to establish a jab in the right 0:24:08 hand i wanted to establish like or are 0:24:10 you just doing it haphazardly sometimes 0:24:13 i'll watch a fight and i'll see a guy do 0:24:14 a nice sequence and that's what i'm 0:24:15 excited to work on tomorrow okay you 0:24:17 know i mean i'm just gonna maybe work my 0:24:18 job today okay now my uppercase there's 0:24:20 so much to work on there's so much to 0:24:22 there's so much to cultivate that that's 0:24:23 the fun part you get in your workout and 0:24:25 then after a while you wanna spar 0:24:27 sparring is the funnest why because 0:24:29 three rounds of sparring is 0:24:31 incredibly uh demanding on the body and 0:24:34 the time passes like this like i could 0:24:36 run forever i just get the reason why i 0:24:38 stopped running is i'm bored 0:24:39 running is easy for me like if you're 0:24:40 telling me jogging jogging doesn't do 0:24:42 anything to me like it'll make me sweat 0:24:44 yes but it won't fatigue me because it's 0:24:46 so much more 0:24:47 the intensity is so much lower than what 0:24:49 i'm used to doing 0:24:50 however i will get bored running unless 0:24:52 i'm listening to a good podcast or 0:24:54 something i'll get bored running 0:24:56 so it's boring it's i find it very 0:24:58 boring and it's not good for your your 0:24:59 body 0:25:00 especially for heavier people right yeah 0:25:02 exactly i like to run in a short burst 0:25:04 like i like to do 100 meter sprints okay 0:25:05 it's done i did it in 20 minutes it was 0:25:07 painful but short 0:25:09 that i enjoy 0:25:10 however boxing i have a bla have fun 0:25:12 when i box at night or it's fun you know 0:25:15 we're playing a game and the time passes 0:25:17 so fast that's the key to 0:25:19 fitness do something that the time 0:25:21 passes we should actually say that 0:25:23 you've got some tutorials don't you 0:25:25 what's the name of your website uh 0:25:26 ggclub.com yeah and how is that spelled 0:25:29 because people might not uh juliette 0:25:31 uniform juliet india 0:25:34 and then club 0:25:35 c-l-u-e-b dot com i've actually 0:25:39 as you know you know i've consumed much 0:25:41 of your content 0:25:43 if all you know the striking tutorials 0:25:45 you have some tutorials of your children 0:25:47 um yes head like a basic basic headlock 0:25:50 escape very important yeah and this is 0:25:52 kind of rearing us to the next part of 0:25:54 this discussion which is 0:25:55 the basics of self-defense 0:25:57 maybe we can not now after this because 0:26:00 you can show maybe some some 0:26:01 demonstrations we'll get some somebody 0:26:02 else we could do over here 0:26:04 but you know 0:26:06 how important is it 0:26:08 i couldn't imagine myself without my 0:26:10 martial arts skill i was so bullied as a 0:26:12 kid that boy yeah definitely i had two 0:26:15 older brothers i was small when i was 0:26:16 growing up i was smaller than everybody 0:26:18 so i got picked on a lot so martial arts 0:26:20 really carved a part of my my my psyche 0:26:23 could like i needed it so much and now 0:26:25 you've become you know what you are now 0:26:27 just so 0:26:28 i was watching a video of yours sparring 0:26:30 with i mentioned this with you some some 0:26:32 huge guy 0:26:35 the guy was the the strongest arm or 0:26:38 something like that at one point he's 0:26:40 world champion right hand and left hand 0:26:41 really yeah both hands at one point he 0:26:44 you know he gone you i don't know who 0:26:45 got on top of him you got on top of him 0:26:47 and his arm was there and you were 0:26:49 commenting on the videos like and if 0:26:51 there goes the world's strongest arm 0:26:55 and then you got him in the hill hook 0:26:57 position isn't it yeah like yeah yeah 0:26:59 which many people will not know what 0:27:00 we're talking about but you obviously 0:27:02 you have 0:27:03 graduated from the school of danah who's 0:27:05 like you know well known for 0:27:07 you know legs 0:27:09 and it's just so amazing to be honest 0:27:11 for me anyway 0:27:12 to be able to see that someone who if it 0:27:15 was a boxing affair and both were like 0:27:18 it wouldn't be the same but because 0:27:20 you're able to get the weakest part to 0:27:22 use dana has language right the weakest 0:27:24 part of the opponent's body and the 0:27:25 strongest part of your own 0:27:27 you're able to get someone who could be 0:27:29 almost double your size in terms of 0:27:31 weight i don't know how you had at least 0:27:32 100 pounds on you or something like that 0:27:34 into a position of 0:27:36 subordination 0:27:38 you know i mean if i tried to arm 0:27:40 wrestle him he'd rip my arm out of out 0:27:41 of the socket like he's so much stronger 0:27:43 than me like we play arm wrestle then i 0:27:45 could just see like his hand i feel like 0:27:46 a child you know i'm holding a no but 0:27:48 that's the point that someone's so 0:27:49 strong he's incredible his power is 0:27:51 incredible his physical look during that 0:27:53 time i i as we first started resting i 0:27:55 went on his back and i couldn't put my 0:27:57 legs around his back and he was grabbing 0:27:59 my arm and i knew like like i understood 0:28:01 right away what submission i have to get 0:28:03 to i have to isolate his ankle and get 0:28:05 to that ankle and you didn't think about 0:28:06 any other moves no i i think it's i 0:28:09 think it would be 0:28:11 every other submission is very risky 0:28:13 very risky for me 0:28:15 and the the leg lock is the one that's 0:28:18 super super almost impossible for him to 0:28:20 defend and super easy for me to access 0:28:23 so it's it's because the thing is the 0:28:25 bigger they are the easier they are to 0:28:26 leg lock you have you can have much more 0:28:28 trouble leg locking somebody your size 0:28:29 than somebody who's much bigger because 0:28:31 the foot is this big it's such an easy 0:28:33 lever for me to hook on to whereas the 0:28:35 guy has a size a normal size foot it's 0:28:37 very hard so someone's like myself what 0:28:38 should i do to avoid my 0:28:40 [Laughter]0:28:41 you know what i'm going for forever 0:28:48 don't let the guy get there so you see 0:28:50 like uh like as we're engaging trying to 0:28:53 lift him would be ludicrous so because 0:28:55 he's so tall it's easy for me to slide 0:28:56 underneath so into a minority or 0:28:58 something like that yeah yeah but 0:28:59 actually i didn't use a minority i used 0:29:00 this ashy slide which is a slide 0:29:02 underneath straight into a leg lock so 0:29:04 there's no resistance there's no there's 0:29:06 no lifting there's no there's no i'm not 0:29:08 exposing my neck because you know when 0:29:09 you shoot a double leg you're exposing 0:29:10 your neck 0:29:11 like there's just so many dangers if he 0:29:12 puts his weight on he could hurt my back 0:29:14 so 0:29:15 it's you have to ask yourself what is 0:29:17 the 0:29:18 what is the easiest way for me to attack 0:29:21 him from safety a position of safety and 0:29:23 it's for in that situation not all 0:29:25 not all situations are the same if i was 0:29:27 fighting somebody my size i would use 0:29:28 different tactics oh is it yeah yeah 0:29:30 absolutely because he's so tall it's 0:29:32 very he's very vulnerable for an ashy 0:29:33 slide 0:29:34 so what should he do then just so i know 0:29:37 for reference 0:29:40 he's gotta not let me get 0:29:42 like he he'd have to he'd have to 0:29:45 he'd have to control my grip so that i 0:29:46 cannot actually slide which would be 0:29:48 complicated to explain okay okay you 0:29:50 have to fight my grip so that i cannot 0:29:51 grab him in a way that i can actually 0:29:53 slide but then there's other things i 0:29:54 can do if he if he does that you know 0:29:56 it's a we're playing chess you know yeah 0:29:58 and of course he's being a great sport 0:29:59 you know he's uh he's we're just playing 0:30:01 obviously i'm not going super hard he's 0:30:02 not going super cool but we're still 0:30:03 we're still getting nevertheless we're 0:30:05 still getting each other 0:30:06 just to give people a kind of a taste of 0:30:08 this because people look at the heel 0:30:10 hook that might and they don't know what 0:30:11 the ramifications of it are the 0:30:13 implications are if you finish it and if 0:30:15 there's nobody to stop it you're 0:30:16 destroying the man for life you're 0:30:18 breaking the case irreversible damage 0:30:20 right it's very dangerous on the knee 0:30:21 like it's you could you can have it 0:30:23 repaired but your knee might never be 0:30:24 the same either you know so yeah it's uh 0:30:26 it's a nasty some promotions actually 0:30:28 had banned the heel hook right 0:30:30 in all of ibjf heel hooks are illegal 0:30:32 yeah until very recently in nogi and in 0:30:35 the higher divisions only brown on black 0:30:36 or something yeah brown and black but 0:30:37 yeah but for many years it was frowned 0:30:39 upon because it's considered so 0:30:40 dangerous yeah 0:30:42 and you can injure something the thing 0:30:43 is when you injure your knee it's funny 0:30:44 because i actually just released a video 0:30:47 called strong and stable for life yeah 0:30:49 and strong and stable needs for life and 0:30:51 the reason why i did it is because 0:30:52 that's the number one question i get all 0:30:53 the time so i'm like you know what 0:30:55 i'm gonna do it because well i'm on the 0:30:56 mats i always have somebody tap me on 0:30:57 the shoulder and tell me hey coach i 0:30:59 have a knee injury what do i do i heard 0:31:00 you 0:31:02 you're you know you can fix my knee and 0:31:04 then i go through the whole spiel oh as 0:31:06 i said you know what let me put it on 0:31:07 tape got that on your channel yeah let 0:31:08 me let me get it on tape and now from 0:31:10 now on i'm just going to give it to my 0:31:11 members is it is it on the dude 0:31:15 it's uh knees are so important because 0:31:17 here's the problem with knees 0:31:18 if you injure your knee like a serious 0:31:20 injury like an acl tear yep on average 0:31:22 two years later the other acl goes 0:31:25 why they explain they explain to us that 0:31:27 your your body overcompensates one side 0:31:30 so what happens you never recalibrate 0:31:32 your joint your legs like they were 0:31:34 before so for instance if i injure 0:31:36 my shoulder i can go under the knife 0:31:38 but that doesn't affect my left shoulder 0:31:40 yeah if i injure my right doesn't affect 0:31:41 my left but when it comes to the knees 0:31:43 because your knees your legs are 0:31:44 carrying your body they have a certain 0:31:46 calibration between the two when you 0:31:48 injure one the other one takes over so 0:31:49 what happens you're overusing the one 0:31:50 that's compensating 0:31:52 so on average there's a tariff the 0:31:54 second one now when george tore his acl 0:31:56 we knew about this they warned us we 0:31:57 brought in every expert to make sure 0:31:59 that his acl the second one doesn't 0:32:01 break because it costs us a pretty penny 0:32:04 and he's in the height of his career now 0:32:05 we want to you know keep him as healthy 0:32:07 as possible 0:32:08 still it broke 0:32:09 and it broke the second acl broke and it 0:32:11 wasn't like a very intense wrestling he 0:32:14 wasn't wrestling like usual 0:32:16 but his knee failed and it was a scary 0:32:18 thing because now he broke a trust with 0:32:20 his knees like he doesn't trust his 0:32:21 knees like he used to wow 0:32:24 so we had to rebuild him physically and 0:32:25 psychologically to retrust his knees 0:32:27 again and he fought two world titles 0:32:29 after that successfully 0:32:31 but again there's a distrust with the 0:32:32 knees because don't forget you're 0:32:33 applying all your weight and the weight 0:32:35 of your opponent sometimes when you lift 0:32:36 your opponent it's your weight and his 0:32:37 weight on your knees 0:32:39 it's not the same thing with the 0:32:40 shoulder you don't rely on your 0:32:41 shoulders as much as you rely on your 0:32:43 knees your knees are so 0:32:45 important because of the base of your 0:32:47 power every time you generate power 0:32:49 whether you throw a punch 0:32:51 you're using your legs your posterior 0:32:52 chain it starts with the feet knees and 0:32:55 hips and it goes up the shoulder 0:32:58 does 0:32:59 does definitely uh 0:33:01 contribute to the kinetic chain however 0:33:03 it's not as fundamental 0:33:06 and it's not carrying as much stress 0:33:08 and it doesn't rely we don't rely on the 0:33:10 sensitivity of calibration my shoulders 0:33:12 don't need to be calibrated as 0:33:13 sensitively as my knees so all these 0:33:15 problems i tell like i i wrestle every 0:33:17 day twice a day i do mma doubles 0:33:20 the most brutal sport mma yeah and i've 0:33:22 never torn an ac alhamdulillah inshallah 0:33:25 i never do i've never torn acl why 0:33:27 i'm very 0:33:29 religious with my 0:33:30 prehab as we call it so what would you 0:33:32 do i i do a lot of 0:33:34 high level of stabilization work okay 0:33:37 i use the stability ball a lot like i 0:33:39 jump up on the stability ball i call it 0:33:40 the forbidden exercise really yeah 0:33:42 jumping up on the stability ball is very 0:33:44 dangerous you fall down break your neck 0:33:45 you got these catchphrases for 0:33:47 the touch of death 0:33:52 you can make a book on uh 0:33:55 catchphrases 0:33:57 yeah 0:33:58 i you know i learned that teaching 0:34:00 giving a good name a memorable name to 0:34:01 things is it's good for a point of 0:34:04 reference what you're talking about the 0:34:05 strongest arm in the world 0:34:08 it's almost like an exotic novel it's 0:34:10 important it's important i want my 0:34:11 students to know exactly what i'm 0:34:12 pinpointing yeah and uh 0:34:15 like i i'll jump up on a stability ball 0:34:17 but just to demonstrate the stability 0:34:19 i've built over the years 0:34:21 not that i would do that as an exercise 0:34:23 that's highly dangerous you know what 0:34:24 what forbidden 0:34:26 you'll break your neck i'm going to get 0:34:27 a thousand one in the lawsuits if i you 0:34:29 know that's why i named it that to make 0:34:30 sure that if i'm ever in court i'm like 0:34:32 hey i told it was forbidden 0:34:35 and 0:34:36 it's just to demonstrate 0:34:38 uh 0:34:39 stability but we don't build stability 0:34:41 in a dangerous with a dangerous exercise 0:34:43 we use safe exercises to build that 0:34:44 level of stability but then to 0:34:46 demonstrate stability okay we can do the 0:34:48 forbidden exercise as a demonstration 0:34:50 but stability training is huge number 0:34:52 one is alignment number two is making 0:34:54 sure you don't have tight muscles 0:34:56 because tight muscles pull you out of 0:34:57 alignment and number three is my opinion 0:34:59 is stability that's the one thing i 0:35:00 think that's missing from other programs 0:35:02 i'm a big believer in cultivating far 0:35:05 more stability than you need in your 0:35:06 sport 0:35:08 so the stability needed in mma is far 0:35:10 greater than any other sport i can play 0:35:12 basketball tennis soccer all day long 0:35:14 i'll never hurt myself right because 0:35:16 that's a far less amount of stability i 0:35:18 need 0:35:19 than in wrestling when the guy's 0:35:20 actively trying to throw you on the 0:35:21 ground and the guy's actively trying to 0:35:23 break my leg he's not it's not i broke 0:35:24 my leg kicking a ball no no the guy's 0:35:25 trying to grab my leg and twist my knee 0:35:27 off that's i need a tremendous amount of 0:35:29 know-how and stability and 0:35:31 uh 0:35:32 and athleticism to to keep my knee from 0:35:35 breaking so it's it's a far more 0:35:36 dangerous sport i just had one of my 0:35:38 fighters uh kevin lee he fought in the 0:35:40 khabib's fc 0:35:42 is he with you 0:35:45 and the first kick in the first fight 0:35:47 the first round 0:35:49 broke his acl one kick 0:35:51 he fought the rest of the fight on one 0:35:52 leg basically wobbling he won the fight 0:35:55 did amazing but let's show you how 0:35:57 dangerous the support we have 0:35:59 we're kicking each other in the knees 0:36:00 trying to break each other's legs 0:36:02 so don't tell me after you play tennis 0:36:04 and you hurt your knee that's a very low 0:36:06 level that's a that's 0:36:08 as an mma trainer 0:36:09 i can help you protect your knees as a 0:36:12 tennis player very easily really ah 0:36:14 absolutely because tennis is very it's a 0:36:15 controller you say the same thing about 0:36:17 gymnastics though gymnastics is more 0:36:19 dangerous yeah because gymnasts when 0:36:20 they jump 0:36:22 they've measured the landing force is 0:36:23 sometimes up to 21 times their body 0:36:25 weight yeah 0:36:27 gymnastics can be very dangerous 0:36:29 of course they're very intelligent 0:36:30 trainers i i have a high regard for 0:36:32 gymnastics i i actually use gymnastics a 0:36:33 lot in my program i'm the one who put 0:36:36 georgie appear in gymnastics i'm a big 0:36:37 believer in gymnastics training 0:36:39 they figured it out they figured out the 0:36:40 body how to make it you you decided 0:36:42 because you see the famous you know 0:36:44 videos of him yeah i put him onto 0:36:45 gymnastics really yeah absolutely yeah 0:36:47 definitely 0:36:48 they've understood the body more than 0:36:49 anybody else 0:36:51 when they dismount or they do certain 0:36:53 jumps they've measured one imagine 20 0:36:56 times your body nobody could squat 20 0:36:58 times their body weight doesn't exist 0:36:59 but they go up to 0:37:01 levels of up to 20 times because they're 0:37:03 they're spinning and crashing towards 0:37:05 the ground that's probably the most 0:37:05 dangerous sport 0:37:08 because they do it on mats etc and they 0:37:10 know how to control the the landings 0:37:12 they're brilliant athletes no doubt 0:37:14 um is it the most dangerous sport no i 0:37:16 wouldn't say it's the most dangerous 0:37:17 sport because it's more controlled than 0:37:19 let's say football football in my 0:37:20 opinion is probably the rugby and 0:37:22 football in my opinion is crazy is very 0:37:24 dangerous i gotta i i assume they're all 0:37:26 on on peds because the brutality of that 0:37:29 sport you know every every play 0:37:31 they crash into each other every play 0:37:33 the most recent cte studies that have 0:37:36 been done as usually done in the context 0:37:38 of american football right and this 0:37:41 i've i saw something or heard something 0:37:43 where by 0:37:44 i think i actually might have been joe 0:37:45 rogan he was saying 0:37:47 what he was saying that basically even 0:37:48 if you just do a year of american 0:37:50 football in 0:37:52 in school or college or whatever they 0:37:54 call it in america 0:37:55 because we call college something else 0:37:57 university is 0:37:59 their idea of college i think but um 0:38:01 college whatever if they spend one year 0:38:03 of doing that they can develop cte which 0:38:06 i think is only detectable through 0:38:07 autopsies i'm not sure i'm not sure 0:38:09 actually but they're saying that so 0:38:12 from that angle right i mean because 0:38:13 smashing and all those kind of things 0:38:15 into uh it's a brutal sport it's brutal 0:38:17 there's no weight class you can put your 0:38:18 kids into that yourself no i wouldn't 0:38:19 put my kids in football look you can get 0:38:21 hit by a guy who's 70 pounds heavier 0:38:22 than you it's part of the game you could 0:38:24 be running at you at full speed yeah and 0:38:26 he can hit you without you seeing him 0:38:28 you're you're here breaking a tackle 0:38:29 he's hitting you in this direction it's 0:38:30 a brutal sport i've seen tackles that 0:38:32 were brutal so you would say mma 0:38:34 comparatively is less dangerous 0:38:36 yeah in terms of injuries sustained and 0:38:38 stuff uh i would i would say 0:38:40 it's as dangerous because also don't 0:38:42 forget a knee to the head a kick to the 0:38:43 head a shin to the head is this is 0:38:45 brutal too yeah so i would tell you 0:38:47 football rugby mma i would say they're 0:38:48 on par okay because believe me a flying 0:38:51 knee to the head while you're shooting a 0:38:52 double could be disastrous as well 0:38:54 you could literally break the facial 0:38:56 structure the skull 0:38:57 you know it's unfortunate but i've seen 0:38:59 it but with your own kids then so would 0:39:00 you 0:39:01 what would you want them to be like 0:39:03 would you want them to be 0:39:04 would you would you push them in a 0:39:05 particular direction would you want them 0:39:07 to eat because you've said it before i 0:39:08 think that you'd want them to be black 0:39:10 belts in jiu jitsu yeah at the very 0:39:12 minimum would you want them to stay in 0:39:13 something like grappling to us to avoid 0:39:16 the impact on the head yeah yeah that's 0:39:19 definitely like i want no impact on the 0:39:20 head till they're adult they're finished 0:39:21 developing and then if they're really 0:39:23 passionate about it i want them to learn 0:39:25 kickboxing boxing and jiu jitsu no doubt 0:39:27 yeah because they live with me it's so 0:39:28 easy for them to get the black belt in 0:39:30 in that way they have such an advantage 0:39:31 why not take it like and i feel that jiu 0:39:33 jitsu will prepare them for life you 0:39:34 know teach them to work hard and think 0:39:37 just you have to work hard you have to 0:39:38 be smart you can't be a brutish and you 0:39:39 can't just be smart you have to have 0:39:40 both you're not an intellectual living 0:39:43 behind a book and you're not a guy who's 0:39:44 just lifting weights and getting strong 0:39:45 no no you're you're the two 0:39:47 jiu jitsu is like it's chess it's body 0:39:49 chest so you're developing the body the 0:39:51 mind it's a beautiful thing i really 0:39:52 enjoy that system so i want them to be 0:39:54 black belts and jiu jitsu master the 0:39:56 striking arts and then decide if you 0:39:58 want to fight 0:39:59 it could be a bonus but i would be happy 0:40:00 if my kids were doctors professionals uh 0:40:03 some you know pursue academia would make 0:40:05 me equally happy however i'd want them 0:40:07 to be able to defend themselves for me 0:40:08 it's very important 0:40:10 yeah because this is this is obviously a 0:40:12 tension between like like the mma stuff 0:40:15 and the islamic stuff in particular 0:40:17 because there is a very famous hadith of 0:40:19 the prophet where he says 0:40:24 if you it's very interesting actually if 0:40:26 if if you're fighting with your brother 0:40:28 then you know be careful of the face 0:40:31 because allah has created adam on his 0:40:33 own image 0:40:34 so 0:40:35 the idea being that in training 0:40:37 environments and i think this you are a 0:40:38 pro proponent of a low level don't break 0:40:41 your 0:40:42 your jaw in the gym or don't lose your 0:40:44 your jaw in the gym or your chin in the 0:40:46 gym 0:40:47 um 0:40:48 kind of thing where you're smashing your 0:40:49 head all the time 0:40:51 now science is telling us cte and all 0:40:53 that kind of thing as well 0:40:54 um it because the thing is if you have 0:40:56 an intellectual pursuit 0:40:58 which i think 0:40:59 like for example in the community we 0:41:01 would want our people to have 0:41:02 intellectual pursuits but you also have 0:41:04 a physical pursuit you wouldn't want 0:41:06 those two things to kind of work 0:41:08 against one against one another and so a 0:41:11 heavy like so for me i mean i i've told 0:41:14 you already like i've got my kids in bjj 0:41:17 and i'm like focusing on grappling with 0:41:19 them but i do realize i see the very 0:41:22 important 0:41:24 uh need for striking and i understand 0:41:26 also to get to develop that martial 0:41:28 literacy you need to do some sparring 0:41:30 but if you do inspiring with someone who 0:41:32 wants to take your head off every time 0:41:34 then there's an issue here as well isn't 0:41:36 that they can you know ev every gym has 0:41:38 this culture what's the culture of 0:41:39 tristar then culture is controlled 0:41:41 because we have classes called touch 0:41:42 sparring classes where there's no hard 0:41:44 hard shots just play spark and then 0:41:46 after you develop a certain ability to 0:41:48 move 0:41:49 then we invite you to the more robust 0:41:51 sparrings yes and those robust sparrings 0:41:53 are limited two times a week and for 0:41:55 training camp and they're done they're 0:41:57 done more sparingly 0:41:59 and even then there's a control even 0:42:01 then so so you would then you wouldn't 0:42:03 allow like elbows and knees no 0:42:05 only only the guys i trust the most were 0:42:07 gonna like simulate it they're not gonna 0:42:09 throw it for real okay the reason why 0:42:10 you wanna build the body yes yes you 0:42:12 don't wanna destroy the body when you go 0:42:14 in the gym you have to build the body 0:42:15 not destroy the body people go in the 0:42:16 gym to destroy the body it's wrong it's 0:42:18 the wrong way of thinking now there are 0:42:19 two methods to 0:42:20 build a very 0:42:22 strong gym one you put everybody all 0:42:24 these alpha males in one room you're in 0:42:25 a metropolitan city where there's 0:42:26 millions and millions of people 0:42:28 you're flooded with guys who want to 0:42:29 make it you put them in the room they 0:42:30 kill each other there's one guy who 0:42:32 survives at all and he's your champion 0:42:34 then you have a thousand one dead bodies 0:42:36 but you have one champion yeah 0:42:38 and the other method is 0:42:39 you teach each one of them how to be 0:42:41 their best you exhaust their potential 0:42:43 there's a you create a synergy where 0:42:44 everybody respects everyone nobody 0:42:46 injures the other we're here to develop 0:42:48 our skills not kill each other and then 0:42:49 you have a variety of of excellent 0:42:52 fighters yeah 0:42:54 and then from there they feed off each 0:42:55 other because excellence breeds 0:42:57 excellence and so on you have you got 0:42:58 this type of synergy 0:43:00 but many gyms are the darwinian style as 0:43:02 if i could say you know it's killer be 0:43:04 killed and you didn't make it too bad 0:43:05 there's another guy waiting to take your 0:43:06 place because we're in a very we're 0:43:07 we're in a city where it's too 0:43:08 jam-packed we have too many people 0:43:10 and you got hurt there's less space on 0:43:12 there's more space on the mat for us 0:43:14 because there are some places where 0:43:15 they're so full of people 0:43:18 that they don't care if they lose a 0:43:19 customer or not or a fighter they have 0:43:20 another guy coming in town he wants to 0:43:22 make it too so it all depends on what 0:43:24 kind of atmosphere and i breed an 0:43:26 atmosphere of building right not 0:43:29 uh last man standing type uh atmosphere 0:43:31 and is that i've heard i'm not sure of 0:43:33 talks industry but for example in 0:43:35 dagestan the way they do wrestling and 0:43:37 stuff like that they're soft they play 0:43:40 they're more playful yeah 0:43:41 and do you think that's that might be a 0:43:43 secret to their success because we're 0:43:44 seeing the rise of 0:43:46 i mean you've got um sagilev who's the 0:43:48 wrestler like he's he's i'm not sure 0:43:50 seen as pound-for-pound best freestyle 0:43:52 wrestler in the world right now and then 0:43:54 you've got like all these kind of 0:43:55 fighters of khabib being notable but 0:43:58 ankylo have done really well really well 0:44:00 now in the light heavyweight division 0:44:02 and other fighters as well 0:44:04 they seem to have a real 0:44:06 kind of pedigree 0:44:08 and 0:44:09 at the heart of it is grappling so is is 0:44:12 is that because they've developed team 0:44:14 spirit that they're all working with 0:44:16 each other or is it because of the 0:44:17 playful kind of training what is it 0:44:19 really what i think is i think i think 0:44:21 they have a 0:44:22 they have a 0:44:24 learn the sequences they have they have 0:44:25 a higher regard for technique 0:44:28 and so if you do something and you do it 0:44:30 using force it's considered your 0:44:32 wrestling is ugly it's not aesthetically 0:44:34 pleasing 0:44:35 why because if you mastered the 0:44:36 technique and then you unleash your 0:44:37 force you'd be even better 0:44:39 so they they breed a culture of wow you 0:44:42 got the technique right 0:44:44 where in america if you do something 0:44:46 athletic it's wow look how you bypass 0:44:48 the system yeah yeah whereas them know 0:44:51 do it right there's a wrong way in the 0:44:53 right way and then demonstrate your 0:44:54 athleticism so it's it's really the the 0:44:57 tradition of teaching and training 0:44:58 because not that americans are not 0:45:01 technical they are definitely they just 0:45:03 also have a great 0:45:05 enjoyment to watch something athletic 0:45:07 just something that's 0:45:08 freaky you know the guy can jump so much 0:45:10 or he can pull so much or what 0:45:12 they have more they breathe more culture 0:45:14 of do you do it right do you understand 0:45:16 why we do it this way and if the answer 0:45:18 is yes it's good if the answer is bad 0:45:20 explain it to him again you know because 0:45:22 they have this and that's why look the 0:45:23 european wrestling there's a lot to say 0:45:25 they have a lot more gold medals than in 0:45:27 the west okay 0:45:28 and also they support their athletes 0:45:30 more their other their other factors but 0:45:31 generally speaking most 0:45:33 wrestling experts will tell you that 0:45:34 they're more technical 0:45:36 the wrestling is more it's superior 0:45:40 does that have to do with state funding 0:45:42 i would say yes but also the culture of 0:45:43 learning like for instance if you look 0:45:44 at scandinavian countries they they do 0:45:46 really well in school even though they 0:45:48 do less hours and less homework and they 0:45:49 start at a later age why is that 0:45:51 well in america if you say something 0:45:53 like not not everywhere in america but 0:45:55 like 0:45:57 let's just put it this way they have a 0:45:58 high regard for 0:46:01 um 0:46:02 education education is seen as a good 0:46:04 thing it's seen it is true in america 0:46:06 but maybe more so in scandinavian 0:46:08 countries saying something like for 0:46:10 instance i remember watching dr phil 0:46:13 and there was this girl she was 16 years 0:46:14 old and she was like 0:46:15 getting angry at the crowd and she's 0:46:17 like take catch me outside how about 0:46:18 that 0:46:20 catch me outside let's go fight outside 0:46:21 she's saying and when she said that i 0:46:23 didn't understand what you're saying but 0:46:23 she became a star 0:46:25 now in scandinavia she would be it would 0:46:27 be frowned upon because she's doing 0:46:28 something a behavior that's probably 0:46:30 ignorant you know it seems like but in 0:46:31 america they'll they'll marvel at 0:46:33 they'll laugh about it because it's cool 0:46:35 it's funny and she later became a 0:46:37 millionaire she signed a 16 million 0:46:38 dollar contract or 40 if millions of 0:46:40 dollars to do like a music video where 0:46:42 she's just lip singing and it's like 0:46:44 crazy that they made her such a star why 0:46:46 because she went on dr phil and she 0:46:48 behaved in a certain way 0:46:49 now in certain other cultures that would 0:46:51 be rejected 0:46:52 that would be frowned upon that would be 0:46:53 embarrassing they probably wouldn't even 0:46:55 show it on the air 0:46:56 however in certain cultures hey it's 0:46:58 considered cool and fun and and funny 0:47:00 and then marvelous and whatnot so 0:47:03 culture makes a huge difference 0:47:05 absolutely right like you know 0:47:06 especially in india china like 0:47:08 why why do they 0:47:10 excel so much over and above western 0:47:12 countries and for example sub jobs like 0:47:14 mathematics 0:47:16 uh probably the same kind of reasoning 0:47:18 the the education and the teacher gets 0:47:20 to maintain his integrity whereas in the 0:47:22 west the teacher is almost like a 0:47:24 dispensable asset like you know you can 0:47:26 just replace him if you don't like him 0:47:27 you can vote him out or something you 0:47:28 know i remember watching a documentary 0:47:30 where they they sent they brought in a 0:47:32 chinese 0:47:33 a group of chinese teachers here to 0:47:34 england 0:47:36 and they separated a grade one would do 0:47:37 the chinese system one would do 0:47:39 the english system 0:47:41 and the chinese teachers were like 0:47:45 in china we don't have to discipline 0:47:46 because they were asking the students to 0:47:48 do a b and c and the students weren't 0:47:50 doing it 0:47:51 and that the chinese teachers were 0:47:52 perplexed they were like in china we 0:47:54 don't have to discipline they're born 0:47:55 disciplined 0:47:56 meaning in their culture they're raised 0:47:58 by the time they go to school they 0:47:59 already understand that you have to 0:48:00 follow the rules and it's natural to 0:48:02 them 0:48:02 so in the west they had this different 0:48:04 challenge where they had to they had to 0:48:07 try to discipline the children but they 0:48:08 had no means to they had no program for 0:48:10 this and they were making the kids work 0:48:12 harder longer and eventually they 0:48:14 compared the grades and the chinese 0:48:16 school had better grades the chinese 0:48:18 group but then the chinese teacher said 0:48:21 something very interesting he said look 0:48:23 in china we have kung fu 0:48:26 and we have pandas but we would never 0:48:28 have kung fu panda meaning 0:48:30 that by being so rigid they kind of kill 0:48:33 creativity and that's something the west 0:48:35 has that so this it was complimentary 0:48:37 yeah yeah hard work will make you book 0:48:39 smart yes but what is it taking from you 0:48:41 you know mark twain said the best one 0:48:42 time he said don't let don't let school 0:48:45 get in the way of your education wow 0:48:49 so look being i should have said that to 0:48:51 the teacher when i was being 0:48:52 sent to the detention center all the 0:48:54 time 0:48:55 i think i think you can go too far in 0:48:58 being rigid and academic 0:49:00 because it can cost i think both sides 0:49:02 have something to learn from one another 0:49:03 yeah yeah sure it's complementary that 0:49:05 we have to strike a middle ground 0:49:06 somewhere but comparing the two makes 0:49:08 for interesting uh uh con like um 0:49:12 you know 0:49:13 it'll teach us to think differently and 0:49:15 experiment with different methods but i 0:49:17 think culture is something that's 0:49:18 overlooked it makes a massive difference 0:49:20 like me my kids i try to instill instill 0:49:22 into them that on knowledge knowledge 0:49:27 knowledge is good for you always truth 0:49:28 is always good for you one way or 0:49:30 another truth is good for your truth is 0:49:31 something to be desired and one way or 0:49:33 another it 0:49:34 it brings you a benefit one way or 0:49:36 another you have to have that kind of uh 0:49:39 belief in truth you know one way or 0:49:41 another the truth is always good for me 0:49:43 even though i think it's bad now down 0:49:44 the line is gonna it's gonna provide 0:49:46 something 0:49:47 truth is that truth is a very special 0:49:50 phenomenon 0:49:51 do you know um one of what i have these 0:49:53 conversations with you especially when 0:49:54 you have private conversations one thing 0:49:55 that always comes up is family and uh 0:49:58 even those who kind of follow you on 0:50:00 social media would have seen the video 0:50:02 that you very famous viral video that 0:50:03 you've done was like a day in the life 0:50:05 of for us the hobby very beautiful video 0:50:07 fantastic and one thing that really 0:50:09 sticks out or 0:50:10 is your relationship with your children 0:50:13 like you do 0:50:14 uh as many people that would watch your 0:50:16 content would know you do like jiu-jitsu 0:50:18 with them you do martial arts with them 0:50:20 but you do a lot of 0:50:22 conversation with them and this is 0:50:23 something that i think which is being 0:50:24 lost in transition in our communities 0:50:26 like where fathers are actually taking 0:50:29 you know a responsible role with their 0:50:30 children 0:50:32 what do you have to say about 0:50:34 the extent to which we should as men for 0:50:37 example be responsible over our children 0:50:39 and what kind of fruit does this have in 0:50:41 one's life 0:50:43 look i would say after after god what's 0:50:45 the next important thing in your life 0:50:47 it should be family it's the greatest 0:50:49 good yeah nobody ever had a successful 0:50:51 family and said hey i would have traded 0:50:53 my family for a lamborghini or a mansion 0:50:55 or a music career or or a a 0:50:58 career in politics 0:50:59 all that is secondary 0:51:02 you if you failed your family if you're 0:51:04 if you're 0:51:06 a millionaire movie star and your 0:51:08 family's broken i don't consider you 0:51:09 successful 0:51:10 i don't consider you successful 0:51:13 i think you failed so be careful with 0:51:14 your family your family is 0:51:16 paramount super important 0:51:18 i i really tell you know i always tell 0:51:19 my friends you should have something in 0:51:20 common with your kids maybe not 0:51:22 everything but something that we share 0:51:23 together in my kids sports sports but 0:51:26 more things we play video games together 0:51:27 what is it yeah oh yeah we we like to 0:51:29 kind of like 0:51:30 uh we used to play a lot of uh what a 0:51:33 fortnight oh is it yeah yeah i'm 0:51:36 some of these guys they go crazy on 0:51:37 fortnite yeah so on different level 0:51:39 addictions and all this kind of yeah 0:51:40 absolutely yeah um but you control it 0:51:42 right you control your time we prank 0:51:44 each other we like making fun of each 0:51:46 other 0:51:47 my sons call me boy 0:51:52 cause i'm superior to him so i call him 0:51:53 boy 0:51:55 no he's just a boy he's his son my son 0:51:57 that's my son like he's lower than me 0:51:59 yeah he'll call me son also like we you 0:52:01 know we play we we're friends we're 0:52:03 buddies especially when we drive to the 0:52:04 gym yeah we're in the car together mom 0:52:06 is not there sister's not there i tell 0:52:08 him we can talk about anything 0:52:10 you have complete immunity when we get 0:52:11 in the car we're driving ask me anything 0:52:13 really yeah 0:52:14 conversations i would never repeat to my 0:52:16 wife no way 0:52:18 she thinks they're still little young 0:52:19 boys 0:52:20 he's still 100 young maybe he's still 0:52:22 100 boy i said no he's a man now he's 0:52:24 still 100 boys she's in denial can you 0:52:27 give us a little flavor away no okay 0:52:30 when you make this pg-19 0:52:32 no they're boys they're curious they 0:52:33 want to know female that you have set 0:52:35 time okay all right i want to know 0:52:37 everything about the opposite sex right 0:52:38 so i have to tell them where else are 0:52:40 they going to learn it they're going to 0:52:41 learn it 0:52:42 somewhere else somewhere else right yeah 0:52:44 so i let them know i talked to them and 0:52:46 um i was gonna say like wait do you have 0:52:48 set times 0:52:50 um like in the sense that okay obviously 0:52:51 with martial arts you're gonna probably 0:52:53 go to school or whatever right and they 0:52:54 come out and you probably go 0:52:56 you know um training with them kids 0:52:58 classes i'm guessing 0:53:00 or maybe home classes but you have set 0:53:03 timing for okay i'm gonna sit down and 0:53:05 talk to you guys about 0:53:07 the stories or do you have anything like 0:53:08 that uh generally we talk on the way to 0:53:10 the gym because it's a one hour commute 0:53:12 half an hour there half an hour back we 0:53:13 talk about everything religion women 0:53:14 history science politics money bitcoin 0:53:17 everything they want and everything 0:53:18 everything my sons are bitcoiners too 0:53:20 they want to know everything i try to 0:53:21 teach them everything why because if you 0:53:23 don't talk with your kids i want to know 0:53:24 their thought process how do they by the 0:53:26 way 0:53:26 13 my son all the son is 13. the second 0:53:29 is amen right no noah i know it's the 0:53:31 older the aim is the second one right 0:53:32 amon the troublemaker he's uh 0:53:35 he's 10. no sorry he's 11 now he's 11.0:53:37 yeah 13 11 and my baby girl alisa yeah 0:53:41 seven years old 0:53:43 she's the gem of the family 0:53:44 she's my favorite i saw as i call her 0:53:46 the favorite 0:53:47 i saw you in the video i saw i saw the 0:53:49 glow in your eye when you saw it 0:53:51 with the baby door is something you 0:53:52 could do right yeah yeah 0:53:54 but there's a there's a fear in that 0:53:56 because my my youngest daughter as well 0:53:58 to be honest with you 0:54:00 i'm actually in a similar camp i worry 0:54:02 that you know she's going to be spoiled 0:54:05 let's put it mildly you know because you 0:54:07 know she's she can always like get her 0:54:09 way through 0:54:11 kind of cry of course smile make her 0:54:13 face or something she knows how to play 0:54:14 the system 0:54:16 absolutely do you see that in the case 0:54:18 i mean there is a time where i do this 0:54:20 with her because i feel that if i spoil 0:54:21 her i'm doing her the series to be 0:54:23 honest there is a time i draw a hard 0:54:24 line but i do spoil her every time i 0:54:26 travel i bring her back gifts i shower 0:54:28 with love i take care of my daughter my 0:54:30 daughter is number one yeah 0:54:32 but there's a time i have to draw the 0:54:33 line i have to discipline her i think 0:54:34 it's it's just because it's for her own 0:54:36 good yeah 0:54:37 and 0:54:38 or else she'll become spoiled right 0:54:40 spoiled and that's it's very important 0:54:41 that she's not you know because then one 0:54:42 day 0:54:43 she'll have difficulty functioning in 0:54:45 society yeah it's not always about her 0:54:47 you know she's got to know that yeah we 0:54:49 have this playful time where i make it 0:54:51 all about you but then we get serious 0:54:52 and look everybody waits their turn 0:54:54 everybody gets their fair share and you 0:54:55 have to you know get out get with the 0:54:56 program uh 0:54:58 the idea is that in the future she's 0:55:00 gonna marry a guy who takes care of her 0:55:02 like her father takes care of her she 0:55:03 has a map in her mind she knows how it 0:55:04 feels to be treated well and that's how 0:55:06 it should feel if she's going to marry 0:55:08 somebody 0:55:09 um i take my i make my sons take care of 0:55:11 her because one day when i die they're 0:55:12 going to take care of her it's a reflex 0:55:14 she needs something i said her brother 0:55:16 kind of things would you say to your 0:55:17 sons 0:55:18 absolutely if if i hear my baby girl 0:55:20 crying and my sons don't get up 0:55:22 to check on her it's gonna be a problem 0:55:24 on that level oh yeah if she's in if 0:55:26 she's in pain or she needs help or she 0:55:28 there's no toilet paper they got to get 0:55:29 up and go get it for her like 0:55:31 they better get up right now and do it 0:55:33 why because i want to cultivate in them 0:55:34 a sense that she's the most important 0:55:36 person in in our lives and you have to 0:55:38 take care of her why she's the youngest 0:55:40 okay she's younger she's the baby girl 0:55:41 look my sons they take her to the bus 0:55:43 stop and they bring her back home but if 0:55:45 she wasn't the youngest there would be 0:55:46 more you would say there's being more 0:55:47 give and take yeah because i always tell 0:55:49 my sons when they get fed up taken care 0:55:51 of i say who used to take care of you 0:55:52 yeah you used to torture me the same way 0:55:54 you used to cry and nag for this and i 0:55:56 took care of you yeah i want them to 0:55:57 know how to take care of someone else 0:55:59 don't be selfish don't be it's all about 0:56:00 me so i think it's really important you 0:56:02 know to unite them to make them feel 0:56:04 good about one another and i always tell 0:56:05 my daughter be grateful look he took 0:56:07 care of you he waited for you he took 0:56:08 you here he took you there he watched 0:56:09 you she wants to go to the park while 0:56:10 she has to go with her brother okay he's 0:56:12 going to take you he doesn't want to go 0:56:13 to the park but he's going to go spend 0:56:14 an hour with you my daughter likes to 0:56:16 wrestle believe it or not she's like 0:56:17 papa i wanna fight 0:56:19 hey man do five minute round with her 0:56:21 how does she again seven oh she loves to 0:56:23 fight yeah do a five minute round with 0:56:25 her two five minute rounds okay two five 0:56:27 no question yeah of course they let her 0:56:28 be you know but she she loves to wrestle 0:56:30 she loves to she's a tomboy okay she's a 0:56:32 tomboy she likes to throw down you go 0:56:34 you guys go like matt's everywhere in 0:56:36 the house the whole house is mad the 0:56:38 majesty is a dojo 0:56:40 so they they wrestle they have fun and i 0:56:42 tell her she wants to do three rounds 0:56:43 say no call us enough you did two he 0:56:45 gave you his time now do something at 0:56:47 rounds or three three no five minute 0:56:48 rounds we'll do five minute rounds do 0:56:49 you ever do do you ever do full fully 0:56:51 fledged sparring uh no no no the kids no 0:56:53 no no no no no no just just grappling uh 0:56:55 graphic we do body shot sparring i'm a 0:56:57 big believer in the kyokushin style 0:56:58 system like if you look at george grew 0:56:59 up in that system where they kick and 0:57:01 punch to the body really and then later 0:57:03 as they're older they teach some 0:57:04 striking to their head do you not think 0:57:06 that one of the drawbacks of that system 0:57:07 is that if you learn to punch the body 0:57:10 and defend to the body that when you go 0:57:12 and do sparring 0:57:13 fully fledged that your defenses will be 0:57:15 they quickly catch up are you sure yeah 0:57:17 absolutely because 0:57:20 there's many world champions in k1 that 0:57:22 came from a karate background that had 0:57:23 hard time early in the beginning then 0:57:25 they adopted boxing and george is one of 0:57:26 them george exactly like this he had a 0:57:27 great kicking and punching to the body 0:57:29 but no punching to the head it was very 0:57:30 easy to hit he quickly transformed why 0:57:32 because it's very similar 0:57:34 and it's it's just basically you're 0:57:36 putting the icing on the cake it's not 0:57:37 really you're you're not building the 0:57:38 whole idea of reflexes and distance 0:57:40 control and the thing is because they 0:57:42 haven't gotten hit in the head their 0:57:43 mind is completely well developed and 0:57:45 clear 0:57:46 you know so i really believe in the 0:57:48 system i think it's fantastic because 0:57:49 you learn how to kick punch distance 0:57:51 control and actually it's more painful 0:57:53 to get hit in the body than the head the 0:57:54 head you don't really feel anything and 0:57:56 just you might see a spark here and 0:57:57 there a star here and there but you 0:57:59 don't feel pain like getting in the body 0:58:00 so they're actually more resistant to 0:58:01 pain 0:58:02 and they're less likely to head hunt 0:58:03 because they've been hitting the body 0:58:04 their entire life 0:58:06 it's a brilliant system i think it's 0:58:07 very very good and i think 0:58:09 well 0:58:09 in kyokushin karate 0:58:12 the karate system because they're they 0:58:13 start in the youth they only attack the 0:58:15 body even in taekwondo they just they 0:58:17 put a shield on the body and you can hit 0:58:19 the body as hard as you want right okay 0:58:21 well not not every kyokushin tournament 0:58:24 is as hard as you want they have 0:58:25 somewhere you're not allowed to hit as 0:58:26 hard as you want but it's very very safe 0:58:28 for the brain like the worst you can get 0:58:30 is 0:58:31 really hard on the body and winded 0:58:32 mm-hmm so basically you run out of you 0:58:34 get dropped to your knees and you can't 0:58:35 breathe for a second or two and it's 0:58:37 very rare but it's nothing serious and 0:58:39 george came from that background 0:58:40 absolutely he became world champion 0:58:41 that's why i'm telling people it's 0:58:42 better to do it that way 0:58:44 then because if you look at boxers and 0:58:46 muay thai fighters after they're retired 0:58:48 the ones who started very very young a 0:58:50 lot of them unfortunately become 0:58:51 alcoholics 0:58:52 dysfunctional they're completely 0:58:54 dysfunctional they can't go into society 0:58:56 why 0:58:58 the way that they explain it the way 0:58:59 i've heard it to be explained is that 0:59:02 when you get hit in the head often 0:59:04 the brain the receptor in your brain is 0:59:06 not as 0:59:07 efficient it's not as sensitive so what 0:59:09 happens 0:59:11 if a hundred is feeling normal they're 0:59:13 at 80.0:59:15 so they need a substance a self-medicate 0:59:16 they say they take drugs or alcohol to 0:59:18 bring them up to just a hundred just to 0:59:20 feel normal 0:59:21 and i don't know if this narrative is 0:59:23 true you know i've heard experts say 0:59:25 this but i i can't say that i have no 0:59:26 studies 0:59:28 explains this for a fact but 0:59:30 i've definitely noticed a trend that 0:59:31 ex-boxers are not functional after yeah 0:59:34 i've seen yeah i've i've been in 0:59:35 thailand believe me i've been i've been 0:59:37 in the thick of it okay 0:59:38 land they they retire like 32 or 0:59:40 something right younger 526 yeah because 0:59:43 it's just too much is it because they 0:59:45 used to be on the stage and now they 0:59:46 have they have a regular job and that's 0:59:47 what's depressing them i don't know i 0:59:49 can't tell you that either narrative is 0:59:50 true i don't know for a fact i thought 0:59:52 it was because their bodies had had 0:59:53 enough i think it has a lot to do with 0:59:54 blows to the head is that yeah yeah um 0:59:57 i think excessive looks to the head 0:59:58 don't forget they do with elbows kicks 1:00:00 to the head it's brutal yeah that's why 1:00:02 i'm very sensitive to that issue your 1:00:04 brain is developing because the thing is 1:00:05 in thailand they make them fight with 1:00:07 elbows and knees as kids like we're 1:00:09 talking about seven-year-old 1:00:10 eight-year-old six years old 1:00:11 and they make them cut weight who knows 1:00:14 what that does to your organs and brain 1:00:15 i don't know what it does there's no 1:00:16 study that tells you there's no study 1:00:18 following kids cutting weight so i think 1:00:20 it's too much i rather my kids have a 1:00:22 development yeah their bodies fully 1:00:24 developed and then i'll add them to 1:00:26 these do you know an mma there are two 1:00:28 kind of if you want to call them that 1:00:29 schools of thought someone's come from a 1:00:31 specialist background and then they 1:00:32 learn the other two or three sports 1:00:34 whatever they're gonna learn all 1:00:35 together and someone who's trying to be 1:00:37 a generalist 1:00:38 in terms of effectiveness 1:00:40 and general efficacy who what do you 1:00:42 think other like where has success been 1:00:45 more seen 1:00:46 people that have for example freestyle 1:00:48 wrestling backgrounds and then they come 1:00:49 and they learn like a bit of striking 1:00:51 and 1:00:52 jiu-jitsu or someone who's trying to do 1:00:54 all three at the same time um i would 1:00:56 recommend doing wrestling and jiu jitsu 1:00:58 first 1:00:59 wrestling in jitsu shouldn't be 1:01:00 separated 1:01:01 and do that because you're gonna build 1:01:03 an athleticism the wrestlers have a 1:01:04 better athleticism 1:01:06 then let's go into striking 1:01:08 and i'll quick quick what age is always 1:01:10 talking about here 1:01:11 i would say look after your brain 1:01:12 finishes developing i would teach my 1:01:14 kids how to hit the bag earlier on like 1:01:16 my kids they don't do a lot of striking 1:01:18 they do a lot of wrestling in jiu jitsu 1:01:19 and then i make them hit the back let's 1:01:20 say once a week once every two weeks 1:01:22 just so they can develop that 1:01:24 coordination when they're young 1:01:25 because we've seen world champions pick 1:01:27 up kickboxing at the age of 14 and 1:01:29 become world champion by the time 1:01:30 they're 25.1:01:31 what happened he learned in such a short 1:01:32 period well it doesn't take that long 1:01:35 it's not that it takes forever to learn 1:01:36 however 1:01:37 jiu jitsu is complicated yeah 1:01:40 and wrestling is there's a lot of 1:01:43 uh possibilities whereas in kickboxing 1:01:45 and muay thai 1:01:47 it's more about speeding timing the 1:01:48 possibilities are not that complicated 1:01:50 comparatively comparatively don't forget 1:01:52 and jiu jitsu jesus there's so many 1:01:54 nuances there's so many positions so 1:01:55 many things you have to learn cerebrally 1:01:58 now boxing is also you know there's a 1:02:00 lot of detail but nowhere near nobody 1:02:02 can the possibilities in wrestling in 1:02:03 jujitsu are far greater than striking 1:02:07 i i i saw a video of john jones one time 1:02:09 he was asking what's the most potent 1:02:12 sport um kind of martial in the sport 1:02:14 and he said it was freestyle wrestling 1:02:16 to what extent do you agree that if you 1:02:17 have a time limit i would say yeah it 1:02:19 makes sense if there's no time limit 1:02:20 it's jiu jitsu right because look jiu 1:02:23 jitsu was developed in the time of vale 1:02:24 tudor valley tutorial means anything 1:02:26 goes me and you would fight but there's 1:02:27 no time limit the winner gets the 1:02:28 videotape that's how it was 1:02:30 fights will last two three hours so what 1:02:32 you took me down so what however if you 1:02:34 take me down and there's only two 1:02:35 minutes left on the clock 1:02:37 and you just fend off my submissions and 1:02:39 you just kind of hold me tight and you 1:02:40 just and the bell rings they give you 1:02:42 the round you read 1:02:44 you repeat the process two more times 1:02:45 and you win 1:02:46 however that's just 15 minutes 1:02:48 that's not a long time for two guys to 1:02:50 find out who's a better fighter now 1:02:52 let's say that let's say we made it 1:02:53 unlimited rounds and the fighter the 1:02:55 wrestler gets subbed in seventh round 1:02:57 you'll be like oh the grappler is better 1:02:59 yeah but you didn't get to the seventh 1:03:00 round in competition night you only saw 1:03:02 the first three 1:03:03 because believe me when i tell you 1:03:05 um 1:03:06 the wrestlers don't have a way to end 1:03:07 the fight often 1:03:09 so i've seen many fights where there was 1:03:11 no time limit and the wrestler gets 1:03:13 subbed or knocked out or hurt because he 1:03:15 just had no way to end the fight he can 1:03:16 get the guy down he can't do anything 1:03:17 about it it takes years to refine how to 1:03:19 pass their guard mount them take their 1:03:20 back etc 1:03:21 so 1:03:23 with because we've made it more of a 1:03:24 sport it's more time sensitive i would 1:03:26 say yes makes sense 1:03:28 and on this point what do you think with 1:03:30 the whole comes out hamza chameleo and 1:03:34 burns 1:03:35 if it becomes a grappling affair then on 1:03:37 this analysis it should favor burns 1:03:39 because then he could yeah but because 1:03:41 of the time limit i don't think there's 1:03:42 much you can do like you have to look 1:03:43 the better the guy is the more sequences 1:03:45 i need to trap him 1:03:47 and the guy knows that so what he's 1:03:48 going to stall he's going to have stall 1:03:49 tactics he's not even going to do the 1:03:51 sequences he knows that if he keeps 1:03:52 breaking grips keep interrupting the 1:03:53 sequences he can eventually kill the 1:03:56 time so what do you think's going to 1:03:57 happen i think comes that's going to win 1:03:58 it's going to be a stand-up affair is it 1:04:00 yeah i think he has the reach the power 1:04:02 the the the distance he's assault pots 1:04:04 and open stance it could be harder for 1:04:06 uh bernstein he's a blue belt compared 1:04:08 to yeah but 1:04:09 that's that's misleading because he's 1:04:11 been wrestling his whole life and people 1:04:12 think wrestlers don't do ground that's 1:04:13 not true 1:04:14 see the fatal flaw in jiu jitsu is that 1:04:15 they do just ground a lot of them like 1:04:17 in my academy we do standing and we do 1:04:19 ground 1:04:20 wrestlers do standing and ground it's a 1:04:21 myth that they don't it's it's not true 1:04:23 that they do a different type of ground 1:04:25 but it's very relevant to what we do on 1:04:27 mma but 1:04:28 with the difference being with um anklev 1:04:30 and um 1:04:32 khabib is that they did right 1:04:34 whereas 1:04:35 whereas whereas hamza is coming from a 1:04:36 freestyle restaurant but freestyle they 1:04:38 do ground 1:04:39 yeah but they do like what you call it 1:04:41 gut wrench etc that's plenty they do a 1:04:43 lot of ground there is a lot of ground 1:04:45 so they know how to control their 1:04:47 balance they know how to hold you down 1:04:48 from getting up i don't think it's going 1:04:50 to be too much of a ground affair would 1:04:51 surprise me i mean nothing's impossible 1:04:52 but i think it's a it's a good very good 1:04:54 hamsa it's a very good fight for him 1:04:56 it's gonna be interesting i think if he 1:04:57 gets through this one 1:04:58 you know a very yeah i thought martial 1:05:00 is a world champion or in ibj 1:05:03 burns ah burns he is right so if he gets 1:05:05 through him i think that would 1:05:07 definitely mean that he's 1:05:08 i think one of the top guys there i 1:05:10 think the winner is going to get kobe 1:05:11 covington 1:05:13 hamzat or 1:05:14 burns 1:05:15 both of them i think either whoever wins 1:05:17 the fight gets kobe and the winner of 1:05:18 kobe versus 1:05:19 kamza go back tomorrow or yeah i think 1:05:22 we'll go to camaro but even then if it's 1:05:26 the thing is if kobe wins would they do 1:05:27 a third time 1:05:29 it's boring isn't it it's it's 1:05:31 i think it wouldn't sell yeah i mean 1:05:33 yeah i mean i would watch it but i don't 1:05:34 know if it's cell because he lost twice 1:05:36 convincingly yeah i think it would have 1:05:38 to be a camzat beating a kobe and now we 1:05:40 have a new contender they're saying kobe 1:05:41 is going to go up to middleweight now i 1:05:42 think 1:05:43 that's what no he said he's cooled up 1:05:46 yeah 1:05:47 oh uh 1:05:49 maybe he's called him up 1:05:51 you don't think he's because he's got a 1:05:52 grappling pedigree right or do you i 1:05:54 know he's very good look kobe is a real 1:05:55 he's a legit fighter yeah i don't know 1:05:57 if he beats uh 1:05:58 uh 1:05:59 i don't think so because 1:06:01 his fate or weakness was his gravity 1:06:03 yeah sure sure but he's much bigger 1:06:05 longer stronger dangerous at the same 1:06:07 thing 1:06:09 was bigger and stronger that's the 1:06:11 difference yeah blood blochovic was 205 1:06:14 yeah 1:06:15 i think pound for pound at the seniors 1:06:16 better than blojovic yeah but there's a 1:06:19 massive there's a 20 pound weight 1:06:20 difference wait a way in difference not 1:06:22 even a weight difference 1:06:23 blhovich was even bigger than that 1:06:25 that's a massive order so adesanio beats 1:06:27 kovy covington you see bobby covington 1:06:31 what do you think is going to happen 1:06:32 between him and uh hamzat if they go i 1:06:34 think hamzad has his number really yeah 1:06:36 with the grappling and stuff striking 1:06:38 cannot strike him really 1:06:40 i think so possible here's the thing 1:06:42 here here's my i want to say one thing 1:06:44 we haven't seen hamzat in later rounds 1:06:46 sometimes the guy looks so good in round 1:06:48 one and round two he falls apart round 1:06:49 three he falls apart so i don't know 1:06:51 that about him yet i don't know if he 1:06:52 fights hard all the way to the third but 1:06:53 if he can maintain what he does in 1:06:55 rounds one 1:06:56 because all i've seen is round one from 1:06:58 we'll beat everybody him 1:06:59 seen a lot from madison i mean he's good 1:07:01 we know we know what he looks like 1:07:02 around five and he's very durable yeah 1:07:04 he's very durable yeah and uh 1:07:07 mike there's a question mark and comes 1:07:09 that does he have that durability i 1:07:10 think so but we haven't seen it yet 1:07:12 that's why i don't want to jump the gun 1:07:13 and say yes he has it i don't know i 1:07:14 haven't seen that yet but 1:07:16 uh i i really like him against kobe so 1:07:18 do you think he's that he he faces 1:07:19 better chances against um 1:07:23 sanya than he does against 1:07:25 than he does against um 1:07:32 that's tough to call i think uzman's 1:07:33 ultimate challenge for hamzad right yeah 1:07:36 because usman is very mentally tough 1:07:37 also not that arasanya isn't but 1:07:39 it's going to be easier to take down i 1:07:40 think than uh kumaro 1:07:43 that's that's the problem isn't that 1:07:44 because kumar was he's only ever been 1:07:45 taken down once in his career not that 1:07:47 they counted it when kobe took him down 1:07:48 the last fight they didn't statistically 1:07:50 count it but in my opinion it was it was 1:07:52 a takedown who would you have between 1:07:54 usman and george simpion 1:07:58 am i getting in trouble now 1:08:00 listen i love both those guys yeah but 1:08:02 if i have to be totally candid i think 1:08:04 george just has more skills 1:08:05 yeah george has more skills even now 1:08:07 he's more developed yeah even though 1:08:08 like his game goes deeper he has more 1:08:10 layers 1:08:12 and i love usman i really love us man i 1:08:13 i love the guy he's 1:08:15 if you met i don't know if you met him 1:08:18 he's a very sweet humble person kind 1:08:20 salted the earth guy um 1:08:24 this goes beyond you know but i guess 1:08:26 so so yeah but exactly so sure i i hate 1:08:28 to pick one over the other because i 1:08:29 like them both so much but george's game 1:08:31 just goes deeper 1:08:32 yeah he's just he has a greater 1:08:34 understanding of 1:08:35 what about khabib versus uh 1:08:38 pound for a pound 1:08:39 well if they had to catch weight let's 1:08:40 see 1:08:43 people are gonna people are gonna grill 1:08:44 me for this but i'll pick khabib i think 1:08:46 i think that highly of khabib i think 1:08:47 khabib is the ultimate killing machine 1:08:49 he's incredible 1:08:51 so i just feel that khabib has a few 1:08:53 more layers and he's he's just 1:08:55 he's as tough mentally as as usman 1:08:58 and not that i ever want to see them 1:08:59 fight they're close you know they would 1:09:01 never fight each other but i think i 1:09:02 think khabib is like he's a special cut 1:09:05 above 1:09:06 he's very special khabib 1:09:09 i wanted to speak to you more about your 1:09:10 philosophies 1:09:13 but i think what we'll do is we'll do um 1:09:16 when you're when you're back in canada 1:09:17 we'll do an episode just for them 1:09:20 uh because 1:09:21 last time when when i did this 1:09:23 and we said oh we got for us we we made 1:09:25 it the opposite way we kind of spoke 1:09:27 more about the feel philosophical issues 1:09:28 more 1:09:29 and the um 1:09:31 and the the the sports stuff less but 1:09:34 this i think 1:09:35 you know the first time we had a fleshed 1:09:37 out conversation about these things i 1:09:39 think this is very important for the 1:09:40 muslim community but obviously people 1:09:42 don't realize that you have been 1:09:44 really deeply involved i mean one time 1:09:47 maybe you wouldn't mind me saying this 1:09:48 but 1:09:49 in addition to your training you do 1:09:51 hours and hours of studying don't you 1:09:53 like 1:09:54 maybe three four five hours a day or 1:09:56 some how many hours yeah i would say two 1:09:58 to five sometimes wow wow when i travel 1:10:01 you read that much yeah i do what do you 1:10:04 read what do you do 1:10:06 i do a lot of you know what i really 1:10:07 like uh is audible audible.com i use a 1:10:10 lot of their 1:10:11 audiobooks i do a lot of lectures i find 1:10:13 lectures online science history 1:10:14 philosophy 1:10:16 religion i like to listen to debates 1:10:18 lectures i mean absolutely everything on 1:10:20 science history philosophy religion i 1:10:22 listen to all of it i buy all the books 1:10:24 i buy hundreds of books 1:10:25 and for me it's a pleasure just 1:10:27 listening to it as a pleasure like 1:10:28 people listen to music i listen to 1:10:29 audiobooks wow yeah and and as it helped 1:10:33 you gain a sense of spirituality now 1:10:34 we're two weeks away from ramadan 1:10:37 like the the spiritual aspects of islam 1:10:40 you've been reading a lot of ghazali 1:10:41 recently as well haven't you and 1:10:44 what have you what have you kind of 1:10:45 taken from that and 1:10:47 for people that might be listening to 1:10:48 this who might not be aware of the 1:10:50 islamic tradition in particular 1:10:51 what would you guide them to in terms of 1:10:54 reading material 1:10:56 i think gazelle is hard to read honestly 1:10:58 okay i think i think i would if i didn't 1:11:01 study philosophy for so many years 1:11:02 before gazali i wouldn't have understood 1:11:04 anything he meant so i think hazel is 1:11:06 actually quite a difficult read 1:11:09 it's not a good place to start per se if 1:11:11 you don't have a background yeah if you 1:11:12 if you don't have a background then you 1:11:13 start with the quran you know exactly 1:11:15 with the profit 1:11:17 it's a long ways away 1:11:19 um 1:11:20 i don't think i don't think philosophy 1:11:22 is a place where you start yeah i 1:11:24 definitely don't think you start there 1:11:25 uh but you can you can build to that and 1:11:28 um 1:11:29 you know it's it's it's 1:11:31 again you know you start with the quran 1:11:32 the sunnah and then 1:11:35 i'll listen i studied the greeks i 1:11:37 studied muslim philosophers and the 1:11:39 british empiricism and enlightenment 1:11:41 period i think the three together 1:11:44 because i think a lot of them each one 1:11:45 of them was commentary of the on the 1:11:47 past they were influenced by the past 1:11:49 and 1:11:50 logic is an innate thing 1:11:53 so hazel said it beautifully said it 1:11:55 doesn't matter who said it we have to 1:11:56 study each 1:11:57 each claim by itself standing alone and 1:12:00 see whether it's true or not doesn't 1:12:01 matter if aristotle said something or 1:12:03 this guy said something it doesn't 1:12:04 matter we have to verify it for 1:12:05 ourselves we have to have demonstration 1:12:08 and this is this is i think very 1:12:09 important but ultimately speaking 1:12:11 everything boils back down to the fitrah 1:12:14 like you can't go further than that once 1:12:15 you try to go further than that this is 1:12:16 the limit 1:12:18 and 1:12:19 this is what gives certainty hazali's 1:12:21 work is all about getting to certainty 1:12:24 and certainty is a very special thing we 1:12:25 have to differentiate between knowledge 1:12:27 and belief 1:12:28 and certainty is a type of knowledge 1:12:30 that's that's unique 1:12:32 and once you find that nucleus 1:12:34 everything else makes sense everything 1:12:35 makes sense 1:12:36 but you have to get to that nucleus and 1:12:38 that's what he does that's that was his 1:12:40 his uh 1:12:42 crisis as he describes it you know he 1:12:44 went through a crisis because he wanted 1:12:45 to know what's the bedrock of it all 1:12:47 and it's quite a profound thing and 1:12:51 for you reading the quran 1:12:54 and reflecting over and and things like 1:12:56 that what are some of the main things 1:12:58 you have taken away from from that 1:13:00 reading 1:13:01 i think i think the quran 1:13:03 it 1:13:04 it 1:13:05 touches on every type of logic 1:13:08 and it ultimately tells you look 1:13:11 you were born with this special thing 1:13:12 called the fitra this innate belief this 1:13:15 tao had within you 1:13:17 and you have to revert back to that 1:13:18 natural religion 1:13:19 and the quran is reminding you and 1:13:21 telling you about it and 1:13:22 like we were talking about earlier there 1:13:24 are levels of truth there are levels 1:13:26 there 1:13:27 when we talk about what is true that's a 1:13:29 very complicated thing you could put 10 1:13:30 experts in epistemology in one room and 1:13:32 they won't agree on the definition of 1:13:34 truth 1:13:35 so how are you making claims to truth 1:13:36 when we don't even have the definition 1:13:37 of it i think islam ultimately is asking 1:13:40 you to discover 1:13:41 the ultimate truth now 1:13:44 god himself in my opinion the way i 1:13:46 understand it 1:13:47 is actually the only thing that is a 1:13:49 hundred percent objectively true 1:13:51 do you know this is actually a beautiful 1:13:53 um hadith on this there was there's a 1:13:55 poem uh a pre-islamic poet called labit 1:13:59 and 1:14:00 um 1:14:01 he was one of the people actually 1:14:03 because before islam there were there 1:14:05 were poems that were hung up on the um 1:14:07 the kaaba 1:14:08 called them 1:14:09 one of the one of the main people that 1:14:11 wrote was a person called 1:14:13 but he was also a time he was at the 1:14:14 time of the prophet as well and he had a 1:14:17 very um interesting line of poetry which 1:14:20 was 1:14:23 whatever is other than allah is in vain 1:14:26 was not true or is not fully true 1:14:28 and the prophet actually commented on 1:14:30 this line of poetry and he said that 1:14:31 this 1:14:32 is the truest thing a poet has ever said 1:14:34 alhamdulillah which is kind of in line 1:14:36 with what you're saying isn't it 1:14:38 it's 1:14:40 it's something we all know 1:14:43 but 1:14:45 i think ever that's why i say i don't 1:14:46 believe in atheism bring me an atheist 1:14:47 i'm going to find you a deity he 1:14:48 believes it bring me an atheist 1:14:51 they all believe in something 1:14:53 he believes in he believes in a deity 1:14:54 somewhere somehow i'm going to find the 1:14:55 deity in his beliefs i'm going to 1:14:57 cross-examine aluminum and how are you 1:14:58 defining a deity here 1:15:01 something you project from your mind 1:15:03 onto the world 1:15:04 and my definition will go further in 1:15:06 this but just to keep it simple let's 1:15:07 give for 1:15:08 instance nature nature is the most 1:15:10 famous deity in today's age nature what 1:15:13 brought us about nature 1:15:14 nature is just that a word is just sound 1:15:16 you made with your mouth what does it 1:15:18 mean nature 1:15:19 see 1:15:20 nature comes from your observation of 1:15:22 particulars if i asked you what is 1:15:24 nature you would say 1:15:25 well you would have to point to examples 1:15:27 you would say look at that flower 1:15:30 that's nature okay if i destroy all the 1:15:32 flowers nature's gone no no no there's 1:15:33 also 1:15:34 the river 1:15:36 the water cycle the trees 1:15:38 the 1:15:39 the 1:15:40 the bees the ants the cattle 1:15:43 okay what if i destroy all that oh no 1:15:45 there's still more what if i destroy 1:15:47 every particular thing 1:15:49 what if we had a universe an empty 1:15:50 universe would you know nature now you 1:15:53 wouldn't know nature now there's nothing 1:15:54 there's no collective 1:15:56 so 1:15:57 how do you know nature well you saw 1:15:58 blades of grass 1:16:01 you felt the wind 1:16:02 and the word nature is just a collective 1:16:04 to name all those particulars you 1:16:05 experienced 1:16:06 i mean this is exactly what um i think 1:16:09 he believed in that and certainly 1:16:10 nominalism yeah nominalism and and um 1:16:15 was you could say conceptualist as well 1:16:16 like in the sense that he didn't believe 1:16:18 in el culiereto like the gene genuses or 1:16:21 the universals existed 1:16:23 in reality and said you only know them 1:16:25 through the particulars we're projecting 1:16:26 them from our minds this is a name i 1:16:28 give like for instance how many trees 1:16:30 does it take to make a forest well 1:16:31 that's subjective you might have a 1:16:32 different number than me it's a 1:16:34 projection of our mind what do you think 1:16:36 it is it's there's there's subjectivity 1:16:37 is always mingled in what you what you 1:16:39 call truth 1:16:41 except in one instance 1:16:42 so there's part concept part observation 1:16:46 in a quran it says do they not 1:16:48 consider the seed that they sow like 1:16:51 your 1:16:52 nature is coming after your observation 1:16:54 so i observed 1:16:56 particulars 1:16:57 then i came up with the idea of nature 1:16:59 without the particulars that universal 1:17:01 doesn't exist 1:17:03 the universal is dependent on 1:17:05 particulars 1:17:06 allah is telling you look i don't depend 1:17:08 on particulars 1:17:09 i am the particular this is the quranic 1:17:11 point of view 1:17:12 so one example i've 1:17:14 come up with recently is to help make 1:17:16 this even clearer is remember the ship 1:17:18 of thesis yeah okay so let's think about 1:17:20 the ship of thesis okay i'm gonna i'm 1:17:22 gonna go through it again real quick 1:17:23 because i know we've done it before yeah 1:17:24 the ship of thesis is a ship of 99 parts 1:17:27 it belongs to a man named thesis every 1:17:29 day he changes changes apart 1:17:32 after 99 days his ship has been 1:17:34 completely re 1:17:35 every pace has been changed 99 days 99 1:17:38 parts 1:17:39 those old parts we put them in a 1:17:40 warehouse somewhere he's sailing that 1:17:42 ship we all identified as the ship of 1:17:44 thesis 1:17:46 then one day i go in the warehouse i put 1:17:47 this the old pieces back together now 1:17:49 there are two ships on the ocean we both 1:17:51 call them both the ship of theseus and 1:17:52 if i ask you which one is the ship of 1:17:53 pieces 1:17:54 well now it has a lot to do with your 1:17:56 subjective uh sense of what identity is 1:17:59 there's no objective way to 1:18:00 differentiate which one is the ship of 1:18:02 thesis 1:18:03 now imagine these two ships are i'm 1:18:05 gonna make the problem even worse 1:18:06 imagine these two ships are going around 1:18:08 on the ocean 1:18:10 and every day each ship is still 1:18:11 changing a new piece 1:18:14 and the old pieces i'm taking from both 1:18:15 ships and i'm creating a third ship 1:18:19 and the ships are changing piece every 1:18:20 day and 1:18:21 they're they're their particulars are 1:18:23 being mingled shuffled like a card of 1:18:25 deck of cards and i'm making thousands 1:18:26 and thousands of ships now ask you which 1:18:28 one is the ship of thesis you're like 1:18:29 hey well you know it all depends on how 1:18:30 you see it 1:18:33 the ship of thesis is an archetype 1:18:36 there's an archetype in your mind and 1:18:37 you use that archetype this is what 1:18:39 plato called the forms to identify 1:18:40 what's out there 1:18:43 but now i want you to 1:18:45 put this example to the side think about 1:18:47 a ship now if i told you about a ship 1:18:49 it's the divine ship 1:18:51 this ship is not trans it doesn't 1:18:53 transition it doesn't change it always 1:18:54 was will always be and there will never 1:18:56 be another ship 1:18:57 you no longer need this archetype 1:18:59 there's no more form of ship 1:19:02 you had an archetype because that thing 1:19:03 the original example i gave 1:19:05 the ship of thesis that goes through a 1:19:07 change like me and you our bodies after 1:19:09 seven years of life your entire all your 1:19:11 cells have been changed in your body 1:19:14 we are like the ship of theseus we are 1:19:16 part archetype we are part observation 1:19:18 we are part object 1:19:22 but imagine a ship that was divine 1:19:24 never changes and never will change and 1:19:26 always was 1:19:28 if i told you if i asked you something 1:19:30 about that ship if i told you where's 1:19:31 the ship of these you say that's the 1:19:33 ship of theseus now there's no more 1:19:35 archetype there's no more subjectivity 1:19:38 there's no more your opinion is 1:19:39 different than mine and we're equally 1:19:41 true we're not equal footing no more now 1:19:42 there are facts now it's truly objective 1:19:44 in the original 1:19:46 example i gave you it was subjective the 1:19:48 truth was subjective there was part 1:19:50 object 1:19:52 part archetype so there was room for 1:19:54 subjectivity now there is no more room 1:19:56 for when there is only one 1:19:59 see like if you give me a 1:20:01 a pagan god there's an archetype to 1:20:03 their gods 1:20:05 this is what i refer to oftentimes as 1:20:06 the abrahamic experience you have to 1:20:08 strike down 1:20:09 all 1:20:11 the multiplicities because to get to 1:20:14 objectivity pure objectivity which is 1:20:16 what ghazali was looking for when allah 1:20:18 tells you i am one he's telling you look 1:20:19 i am literal i am the particular 1:20:23 you all are particulars and universals 1:20:25 you are not like me 1:20:28 is one category there will never be any 1:20:31 category like this 1:20:33 this is what the quran is telling allah 1:20:35 like 1:20:36 you have to understand when 1:20:37 when i teach you language when you learn 1:20:39 language every word is dependent on 1:20:41 another word 1:20:43 if i want to explain you what table 1:20:44 means i have to explain to you the words 1:20:46 i have to use words and those words that 1:20:47 i use to explain the word table also are 1:20:49 contingent on other words 1:20:52 how can i explain to you table if 1:20:53 there's an infinite regress of 1:20:54 contingent words well i have to give you 1:20:56 experience i have to tell you look this 1:20:57 is a table 1:20:59 now you have direct experience with the 1:21:01 table 1:21:02 the word table goes with it if you 1:21:03 didn't see a table i could never use 1:21:06 words to explain to you what table is i 1:21:08 have to i have to 1:21:09 tie it with some experience you have 1:21:12 this is very important because when i 1:21:13 tell you about allah you don't tell me 1:21:14 what does that mean i never heard of 1:21:15 this no you know exactly but i never 1:21:18 pointed i never pointed here this is 1:21:20 allah 1:21:22 you know allah so i say there's no 1:21:23 atheist 1:21:24 because i've never spoke to a person who 1:21:26 said look i don't even understand what 1:21:27 you're talking about 1:21:29 because if i'm 1:21:30 you cannot truly make up something all 1:21:32 you could do is take things that exist 1:21:34 and make a collage 1:21:37 so if people tell me look i believe in 1:21:38 the god of war i might say no you took 1:21:40 god and you took war and you mingled 1:21:42 them together 1:21:44 but 1:21:45 like a blind man can never know the 1:21:47 color red 1:21:48 unless you fix his eyes and he sees red 1:21:51 like that when i talk to you about allah 1:21:52 you know exactly what i'm talking about 1:21:54 wow 1:21:56 so i i came up with another thought 1:21:57 experiment to try to teach this to to 1:21:59 make it more simple mm-hmm what gazelle 1:22:01 is trying to say 1:22:03 we've all you've heard about the beetle 1:22:04 in the box so for instance this is to 1:22:06 point to the heart problem of 1:22:07 consciousness imagine i have a insider i 1:22:09 have a box and inside this box i open 1:22:10 the box inside there's a beetle 1:22:13 you you have your own box you open your 1:22:14 box you see a beetle 1:22:16 but there's no beetles in existence we 1:22:17 don't see them when we observe the world 1:22:19 around us we all see books we see 1:22:20 microphones we see cars but we don't see 1:22:21 any beetles but when i look at my box i 1:22:24 tell you i try to explain to you what 1:22:25 i'm seeing and you try to explain to me 1:22:26 what you're seeing or like hey we both 1:22:27 have one 1:22:29 we both have a beetle in the box 1:22:31 every person we meet they all have a 1:22:32 beetle in the box but we can't look in 1:22:34 each other's box this is what's known in 1:22:36 philosophy as the ego centric 1:22:37 predicament you're trapped within your 1:22:38 own body 1:22:42 if i tell you hey guys my beetle has a 1:22:45 blonde hair 1:22:48 you're like wait a second no blonde hair 1:22:49 is that's dunya 1:22:51 you're taking the beetle and you're 1:22:52 mixing it with what you saw in the world 1:22:54 the beetle in the box is not we're not 1:22:56 seeing it in the dunya we're seeing it 1:22:57 internally we're having direct 1:22:58 experience with the beetle in the box 1:23:02 any if i tell you hey my my beetle is 1:23:04 wearing boxing gloves you can be like no 1:23:05 no that part's not true 1:23:07 that part's not true because that's not 1:23:08 what i'm seeing when i'm looking you're 1:23:09 taking dunya and you're mixing it in 1:23:11 with the beetle in the box so every 1:23:14 every human being is born with this 1:23:15 fitra this belief in one god 1:23:18 you're incubated in it 1:23:20 then when you're born you find things 1:23:22 that 1:23:23 you want to associate with it you want 1:23:24 to mingle with it 1:23:25 and then therefore you have polygamy 1:23:28 that's another you know another 1:23:31 sorry did i say polygamy yeah freudian 1:23:34 slip you said 1:23:38 yeah well i meant um 1:23:41 uh 1:23:42 assimilation no no no multiple gods and 1:23:44 integration no no no monopolism 1:23:49 we're both thinking polygamy 1:23:50 [Laughter]1:23:52 sorry my fault yeah that's fine edit 1:23:54 that part for my wife please 1:23:56 it's okay don't worry yeah um yep uh not 1:24:00 polygamy 1:24:02 polytheism 1:24:05 so that's where where polytheism comes 1:24:07 from yeah i always tell people you learn 1:24:09 the number one first 1:24:10 then you learn two you can't learn the 1:24:12 number two 1:24:14 two is one and one 1:24:16 you cannot explain the number ten 1:24:17 without referring to the number one 1:24:20 every other 1:24:22 supposed deity 1:24:25 is a mingling of the number one 1:24:27 so like all words 1:24:30 rely on experience experiences 1:24:33 when we say the word god it also relies 1:24:35 on experience 1:24:37 there's not a word you know that doesn't 1:24:39 rely on experience that's very deep it's 1:24:40 very important it's amazing that's why 1:24:42 there is no there is no atheist on the 1:24:44 face of the earth 1:24:46 there is not an atheist when they tell 1:24:47 me nature did it i'm like man he still 1:24:50 hasn't understood the difference between 1:24:51 universal and particulars wow well with 1:24:54 that i mean i have to say it's been a 1:24:56 pleasure it's been an absolute pleasure 1:24:58 i think many people would have benefited 1:25:00 more from this podcast than many 1:25:02 podcasts 1:25:04 um honestly any time this office is your 1:25:07 office you know you can come down and um 1:25:09 one day and shout out come down to 1:25:10 quebec 1:25:14 and i want to thank you about the muslim 1:25:16 community and all the other communities 1:25:17 for coming onto my podcast 1:25:21 and that's another episode of the mh 1:25:22 podcast the most irregular podcasts 1:25:26 on the internet 1:25:28 thank you for watching 1:25:40 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Diet, Self-defence, Khamzat Chimaev and Philosophy. MH Podcast - Firas Zahabi (2022-03-29) ​

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