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Dr Muhammad Al-Massari - The Need for Messengers.avi (2011-11-17) ​

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Discussion on the Proof of the Messengerhood of The Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alahi wa Sallam)

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Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for prophets and messengers in order to have accountability in the afterlife. He argues that, although there is no compelling reason to believe that a rational being must be destructive for your makriyama (ultimate destiny), this is actually a possibility, and one that is observed in the reality of the universe. He goes on to say that, in order to have a chance at avoiding this fate, one must be sufficiently rushed and knowledgeable about the messages sent by messengers.

**00:00:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for messengers in Islam, citing how human beings cannot enact divine laws on their own and that even if they did, the recognition of such laws would not be perfect. He argues that this philosophical viewpoint, which stems from the idea that Allah is obligated to do something for the benefit of the creation, is flawed and will lead to problems in Christianity.

  • **00:05:00 ** The need for messengers is asserted in the Qur'an and supported by revelations from God. Those who receive a message and study it are those who will have no other option but to believe in the messenger and follow him. Those who have rejected are those who have chosen to reject because they could not overcome their own hubris, greed, or desire for supremacy.
  • **00:10:00 ** The clip discusses the need for messengers, and how without them, human life would be miserable. It also discusses the need for allah to account for his creatures, and how if he doesn't, then humans might be able to say that they have violated the covenant of Allah. Finally, it points out that while human beings are not necessarily punishable until they are told so, this does not mean that they are deserving of hellfire or paradise.
  • **00:15:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for messengers in order to have accountability in the afterlife. He argues that, although there is no compelling reason to believe that a rational being must be destructive for your makriyama (ultimate destiny), this is actually a possibility, and one that is observed in the reality of the universe. He goes on to say that, in order to have a chance at avoiding this fate, one must be sufficiently rushed and knowledgeable about the messages sent by messengers.
  • **00:20:00
  • Discusses the concept of justice, noting that it does not necessarily involve reward or punishment. He argues that justice is about being treated fairly, regardless of whether or not one has committed a crime.
  • **00:25:00 ** talks about the need for free will and for just decisions, and how Allah is capable of making just decisions even if humans are not. He also discusses the concept of divine justice, and how it is impossible for humans to justly judge each other if they do not first get to know each other and understand their past wrongs. concludes by saying that the judiciary will never be able to properly settle disputes in the world because humans are not able to understand all the facts.
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  • Discusses the concept of a testing universe, and how it is impossible for a rational being to be tested. It goes on to say that if a testing universe does exist, it has already disappeared.
  • **00:35:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari explains how some things can be taken figuratively, such as mountains being able to think. He then goes on to talk about how obedience can be achieved through free will, but happens in the year according to the Quran. He concludes by saying that this is an expression of beauty which can be appreciated by the mind and soul.
  • **00:40:00
  • Discusses the need for messengers in the Qur'an and how this need is only meant for those who are tasked with testing and punishing people. He goes on to say that if someone is hopeless and perishing, they have received all the evidences and have had all the opportunities, and have chosen to neglect them, then they are in trouble. also discusses the issue of angels and humans, and how an angel will not be able to communicate with a human in the same way that a human can communicate with an angel.
  • **00:45:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the importance of prophets and messengers, stating that only men can properly carry out this important role. He goes on to say that a woman could be a prophet if she is inspired by Allah and has the same qualities as a man, such as reason and strength. He also points out that if a prophet makes a mistake, it cannot be corrected.
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  • Discusses the need for prophets to be sinless and infallible, and how this is not always possible. It also discusses the example of Jesus, who was known for having revelations but also known for doing bad deeds.
  • **00:55:00
  • Discusses a hadith in which the Prophet Muhammad said that a goddess will touch him and that this will reveal his true identity. points out that the Prophet's appearance will not be that of a typical prophet, and that he may be lying about his age. concludes that the lack of knowledge of the Prophet's appearance could get someone into trouble.

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Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for messengers in Islam. He explains that prophets have special powers that non-prophets do not have, and that when a prophet claims to be a prophet, he is automatically deployed from the position of magister. He also discusses the importance of the Quran as a matter of judgment.

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  • Discusses how evidence must be based on sound principles in order to be accepted, and how dreams do not prove anything. also discusses how people who live in isolated islands will be doomed.
  • **01:05:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for prophets and how some of them were prevented from doing their jobs due to their sins. He also discusses how Allah would protect those prophets from being scandalized, and how the prophets left behind a valve so that their followers could argue on their behalf.
  • **01:10:00 ** , Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for messengers in Islam. He explains that prophets have special powers that non-prophets do not have, and that when a prophet claims to be a prophet, he is automatically deployed from the position of magister. He also discusses the importance of phenomena in Islam, and how it will never leave the level of magister.
  • **01:15:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for messengers in the context of the historical context of the prophet Muhammad's time and the need for someone who can break physical laws. He also discusses the importance of the Quran as a matter of judgment. He concludes that only a being with free will and power can be a true messenger, and that such a being is currently present in America.
  • **01:20:00 ** A hadith is a narration of the words or deeds of a Prophet. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the importance of the hadith and how it can help to guide people. He also talks about the limitation of prophetic infallibility.
  • **01:25:00 ** Dr. Muhammad Al-Massari discusses the need for messengers in Islam, noting that without them, the domesticated plants would not have been able to persist in the wild. He goes on to say that human beings develop plants for human consumption, and that fertilization must be done by hand. He also discusses honey, cauterization, and blood donation, noting that all of these are effective for healing various diseases.
  • **01:30:00
  • Discusses the need for messengers, noting that without them, humanity would be lost. He goes on to discuss the fallibility of messengers and how this can be proven from the Qur'an. He also discusses the need for evidence in order to accept a prophecy as being from God.

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0:00:14 showed the need for messengers yeah i0:00:17 i don't know how to start this issue0:00:19 because uh i know that some islamic0:00:21 groups like hezbollah say0:00:22 messengers are needed to enact those for0:00:26 human because human being cannot trigger0:00:28 it for themselves properly and0:00:30 and and even if they regulate the0:00:33 recognition would not be the perfect one0:00:35 et cetera et cetera i don't feel very0:00:38 strong0:00:38 with this kind of augmentation because0:00:40 it seems to be0:00:41 coming from the mentality philosophical0:00:43 mentality that allah is obliged to do0:00:45 something0:00:46 for the benefit of the creation and0:00:49 this usually will not stand in scotland0:00:51 it will end in the problems which0:00:52 christianity have that god is loving0:00:54 that and you have the problem with that0:00:55 tsunami and all this nonsense it comes0:00:57 from this0:00:58 the definition of loving that's that's0:01:00 not problem that's not going to get0:01:01 anywhere0:01:02 and someone could tell you god did all0:01:05 that about what he0:01:06 supposed to be doing by creating one0:01:08 giving reason and mind0:01:10 so why should he bother giving you your0:01:12 order you should do your own law myself0:01:14 possible so this is this argument is few0:01:16 time0:01:17 and and there are many things which can0:01:21 be regulated differently in various laws0:01:23 equally relatively equally efficiently0:01:25 the various variations so why0:01:27 why specifically for that so this is not0:01:29 a good argument0:01:31 but sense is not really the quranic0:01:32 algorithm quranic argument0:01:36 because what created the universe to be0:01:38 a testing domain0:01:40 it's a commodity it's a testing universe0:01:43 and he says0:01:49 he created life and there to test you0:01:51 who is performing best deeds0:01:54 and uh uh best deeds defined elsewhere0:01:57 by mahatma gandhi did not create man and0:02:00 jinn0:02:01 spirits and humans except to worship me0:02:03 for more exactly with the vinegar0:02:05 is to obey me that's the meaning of0:02:06 worship0:02:21 inside inside the timbers on our worship0:02:25 with us so this is this is nonsense but0:02:27 you've been meaning0:02:28 obeying the commands so test them by the0:02:30 way obedience0:02:31 under various hadith about the testing0:02:33 that's right0:02:34 that0:02:40 by your glory and exaltation nobody0:02:44 hears about this fellow s0:02:46 will even hesitate to work for it to0:02:48 achieve it0:02:49 say okay it's not gonna make too quick0:02:51 just go now watch what's happening there0:02:52 when they say that surrounded with all0:02:55 hateful and difficulties0:02:57 and say by your exaltation glory i'm0:02:59 afraid nobody will ever enter paradise0:03:01 this way0:03:01 there's so many hardships and and0:03:04 temptation0:03:05 preventing you from feeling paralyzed0:03:06 and just very interconnected0:03:08 and then he created the hellfire and0:03:09 said well shall we take a look at the0:03:10 hellfire0:03:12 and they said if someone hears about0:03:13 that is enough to deter him0:03:15 say now go and take a look again as0:03:17 you're surrounded with desires0:03:18 and temptations so it's very clear that0:03:22 this is the whole concept0:03:23 of the quran all the previous generation0:03:25 is that this universe is a testing0:03:27 universe0:03:28 that's the divine decision to make the0:03:30 creation into two phases one phase of0:03:32 testing0:03:33 where rational responsible beings are0:03:34 created who will have to make their0:03:36 choices0:03:36 and later on then those the one who0:03:39 passed the test will be0:03:40 in that we're linked with a divine like0:03:43 what is this0:03:44 jesus may say walk forever with god walk0:03:46 for okay walk or sit whatever you like0:03:48 an exhibition i'm not going to waste the0:03:50 time0:03:51 i would other things thrown in by nice0:03:54 things like nice fruits nice0:03:56 beautiful woman which that will still be0:03:57 aboard claim to be abort0:03:59 although they are indulging these things0:04:01 much more than anybody else but this is0:04:02 not our topic today0:04:04 so it's the testing universe0:04:07 and the necessity of reason0:04:11 may dictate make clear to you that0:04:14 there's a divine being0:04:16 and rationally if he's the supreme being0:04:19 and the ultimate0:04:20 and the reference frame for everything0:04:22 then he should be respected and obeyed0:04:24 yes0:04:24 but does he want that in the sense that0:04:26 is he going to ask about that account0:04:28 you or not0:04:30 it looks quite remote that he will0:04:33 create rational beings who will think0:04:34 about that without0:04:35 that he is interested that they will do0:04:37 the job properly or something like that0:04:39 looks0:04:40 quite remote that is just created for0:04:42 the joy of creation but it's possible0:04:44 there's no rationally0:04:45 i think solid proof that it is0:04:49 impossible or it is0:04:50 contradicts the divine wisdom or divine0:04:53 characteristics to create some creation0:04:56 for pure joy0:04:57 just a pure joy of creation and pure0:05:00 pure enjoyment of company of0:05:02 irrational creation like in tallahassee0:05:04 it will be forever0:05:05 just pure joy of being a combination so0:05:08 there's nothing really irrational about0:05:10 that in itself0:05:11 so question is you're going to ask us0:05:15 you're going to discuss0:05:16 to account us is you're going to punish0:05:18 and reward or not0:05:20 if it's existing universe then it's0:05:22 clearly then then the testing for what0:05:24 is a result of that testing that is0:05:27 testing reversible of hardship is clear0:05:28 but0:05:29 it may be that the way it is there is no0:05:30 other way and ethos will say that's the0:05:32 machinery but0:05:33 i won't believe in divine views that's0:05:36 the way he creates things but0:05:37 does it have another purpose father uh0:05:40 the best thing is to go to the0:05:41 revelations all the revelations0:05:43 all the the the scriptures claim to be0:05:46 coming from revelation which are0:05:48 essentially the judeo-christianic and0:05:50 islamic description because other0:05:51 scriptures are not already claimed to be0:05:52 revelation0:05:53 in that sense0:05:56 putting the way of life they may give me0:05:58 some water injunction some funniest of0:06:00 nice stories about ram and sita and0:06:02 things like that which you can enjoy0:06:03 and make movies about but revelation in0:06:06 the sense that will guide your life in0:06:07 that sense no0:06:08 it's just things which you can take0:06:10 examples and metaphorical expressions0:06:12 and0:06:12 but really with injunctions and others0:06:15 do not do0:06:16 punish do this only this is christian0:06:19 islamic scriptures have that0:06:20 and they are all clearly in agreement0:06:22 that his accounting0:06:25 for he gives commands0:06:28 which address to beings who have a0:06:31 carefree will and capability of0:06:32 executing the commands and he will be0:06:34 accounting of them for that0:06:36 now that cannot be known unless he tell0:06:39 you what he wants0:06:41 and in a way which is0:06:44 sufficiently convincing and sufficiently0:06:47 persuasive0:06:48 so that the accountability will make0:06:49 sense if it does not if it's in a dark0:06:51 way0:06:52 that doesn't make any sense now this0:06:54 could happen in various ways one way is0:06:56 to revolt every person but if he reveals0:06:58 to every person0:06:59 then the issue of testing has expired0:07:01 lost its meaning0:07:04 because if you are receiving revelation0:07:06 either discrimination is for you the0:07:08 recipient0:07:09 is so evident and so persuasive as to be0:07:12 a certain0:07:13 substitute like the revelation to0:07:15 messengers as we know the message you0:07:17 received about his revelation that his0:07:18 disciplination he has no doubt0:07:20 about his own status as a message0:07:23 that's what he's receiving is from allah0:07:25 from god0:07:27 if it is so then the testing is gone0:07:28 because you become essentially0:07:30 having the conviction which cannot be0:07:32 overlaid in0:07:34 so it has to be to selected people so0:07:37 this this0:07:38 that's that's where the messenger's0:07:40 issue comes that they have been selected0:07:41 people0:07:42 a few people selected to bring the0:07:44 message to mankind0:07:46 they have been given sufficient evidence0:07:48 but this evidence is again testing for0:07:50 you0:07:51 studying the evidences balancing them0:07:53 taking the balance of evidences0:07:55 also overcome the temptation of0:07:56 rejecting a messenger because he's not0:07:58 from your own people0:07:59 or rejecting a messenger because he's0:08:00 black and you are white or he's white0:08:02 and you are black0:08:03 all of these parts of the testing that's0:08:06 how you0:08:06 are you going to comply with the word0:08:08 that's what i'm saying is important to0:08:10 you0:08:10 despite themselves maybe not to your0:08:12 liking with despite you may have thought0:08:14 you would0:08:14 you ought to be the messenger you are0:08:16 more virtuous than this so-called0:08:17 messenger and so on0:08:18 although that's part of the testing so0:08:20 the complex0:08:21 universal scheme of testing including0:08:24 sending themselves but the messages are0:08:25 the one0:08:26 who will bring the message to the people0:08:27 in such a way that0:08:29 those who receive the message from the0:08:31 messenger0:08:32 and study it will have if they0:08:36 do the rational and the reasonable0:08:38 choice will have no other0:08:39 option except to believe in the0:08:41 messenger and follow him0:08:42 and those who have rejected are those0:08:44 who have chosen to reject because they0:08:46 could not overcome their own0:08:48 hubris their own their greed for power0:08:50 their own greed for wealth0:08:52 or their own desire for supremacy at any0:08:55 cost0:08:56 like the people for all we have0:08:57 recognized that musa and how we are0:08:59 profits but0:09:00 if we thought we are going to follow two0:09:01 slaves and lose all this fallen kingdom0:09:04 we have invested0:09:05 first of all right out of question i'm0:09:08 going to reject them and say publicly0:09:09 that they are liars although they know0:09:11 at the bottom0:09:12 in the in the different behalf but they0:09:13 are not liars0:09:15 so that's that's it so the question need0:09:17 for messages0:09:20 the only rationale i think defensible0:09:23 answer can be found from the revelation0:09:25 and from the fact that the0:09:26 invasive testing universe is that they0:09:29 are needed0:09:30 to bring the message in such a way that0:09:32 the accountability0:09:33 of qiyama makes sense because allah0:09:35 cannot account you except for the sins0:09:37 you have committed for you will0:09:38 miss this if you have committed mistake0:09:40 and there is no way to know that this is0:09:41 a mistake0:09:42 unless you have an evidence for that0:09:43 from the messenger and no way to know0:09:46 about even about the existence of allah0:09:47 in a persuasive way that he's interested0:09:49 to address you except through the0:09:50 messages0:09:51 you may have a very defensive or0:09:53 rational proof that he exists0:09:55 but he creates for the joy of creation0:09:57 he will not understand anything0:09:58 this is what they call it the day's0:10:00 point of view all a semi-days between0:10:02 taste and his point of view0:10:04 that he is maybe a personal god but he0:10:06 is not interested in being commanded0:10:08 he's not a commanding god he's just a0:10:09 created god0:10:11 he enjoys creation yeah he's creating my0:10:13 free will0:10:14 that's all but he's enjoying his0:10:16 creation without having any but then0:10:18 that's not rational is it0:10:19 what is that i mean i i'm telling what0:10:21 you're saying it is very it's very0:10:22 remote but it is not0:10:24 something which you cannot logically uh0:10:26 show to be impossible0:10:29 so if you're having a debate with an0:10:31 atheist an atheist will say okay fine0:10:33 i accept that you that that there is a0:10:36 god0:10:36 you've proven that um but you're0:10:39 expecting me to jump from god0:10:41 and then to follow scripture and you've0:10:43 not given me0:10:44 this0:10:48 necessity now if if that's if that0:10:50 hypothesis is on the table then we have0:10:52 to check if there are really messages or0:10:54 have come0:10:54 if none has come then we are out of the0:10:56 trouble now obviously the divine does0:10:58 not want to address us with anything0:11:00 or command us or prohibit us anything or0:11:02 inform us about anything0:11:03 leaving us on our own enjoying ourselves0:11:06 but he enjoying the0:11:08 this big theater called creation that's0:11:11 as i said this is a bit removed no but0:11:13 we're talking about the need0:11:14 so what i'm saying is no maybe it's not0:11:16 it doesn't say there's no need0:11:18 if you say do we need messengers only if0:11:19 allah is going to account us that it0:11:21 makes sense0:11:21 that you talk about me there's no need0:11:24 they come0:11:25 if they come they will tell you have0:11:27 come bring your message from allah you0:11:28 will be accounted and you will be0:11:29 punished0:11:30 or rewarded that's how they'll come so0:11:32 this if it is0:11:33 if there's any need really it is the0:11:35 need for allah if you want to account0:11:37 you because he0:11:38 he cannot commit the injustice because0:11:40 they are private the unjust0:11:42 this is contradictions holiness and just0:11:44 being that i count you0:11:46 without giving you the information of0:11:48 always the knowledge to account this0:11:49 would be0:11:50 utterly evidently irrational and and0:11:54 illogical and allah will be undermining0:11:57 his own holiness0:11:58 so see i will account you but on things0:12:00 which have been reported to you0:12:01 message you have received convincingly0:12:04 and that's the reason0:12:05 the one who did not receive the message0:12:06 or when they received the message0:12:07 mutilated0:12:08 but he tried his best and could not0:12:10 reach the decision he's not he's not uh0:12:12 subject to any punishment yet until he's0:12:14 tested the game and there are various0:12:16 hadith we're not going to at least find0:12:17 points but the point is that0:12:19 the usual approach that we have without0:12:21 messenger human life would be miserable0:12:23 because i think this is not invincible0:12:24 that's not a good way to say things0:12:27 here life will be human life will be the0:12:28 same even after messengers0:12:30 if you suffer diseases your life may be0:12:34 messed up0:12:35 even if you have actually0:12:40 is more successful but for individual0:12:42 person his wife may make his life help0:12:44 and maybe a careful wife would be nicer0:12:46 or a catholic girlfriend would be nicer0:12:48 that's all possible this is not going to0:12:50 be to solve0:12:51 really the fundamental problem for not0:12:53 for that reason things have been said0:12:55 to make give you laws and make your life0:12:57 nice that's not the purpose of singing0:12:59 the purpose is0:13:04 we have sent messengers warning and0:13:05 bringing the good news so that we will0:13:07 have no argument against allah because i0:13:09 would never0:13:09 say yes we have reason we have0:13:11 rationality0:13:13 but we don't know what you wanted0:13:15 exactly0:13:16 there are various rational possible0:13:18 options0:13:20 even even if like some people will say0:13:22 that the the covenant of of0:13:24 of of intrinsic nature0:13:27 which is symbolized in the quran with0:13:29 the eye of of the0:13:31 taking the covenant from the children of0:13:33 adam who they are still in the back of0:13:34 their parents0:13:36 and say it is the covenant of0:13:40 allah created in your heart that your0:13:42 lord is allah0:13:43 but also what about it this lord jesus i0:13:45 acknowledge that you are my lord but0:13:46 what this means0:13:47 which commands you have for sure lord0:13:49 being commanding one what did you0:13:51 combine what are the commandments0:13:52 what do you want me to do yes i0:13:54 acknowledge you my lord0:13:56 you may you may be in trouble if you say0:13:57 i don't accomplish allah0:14:00 then you might be able to say okay you0:14:01 have violated the covenant of0:14:03 you have undermined reason but even0:14:06 someone could argue0:14:06 okay i am not reason i was stupid but i0:14:09 didn't have any message for you saying0:14:10 if you are stupid i'm going to punish0:14:11 you0:14:12 because human is not necessarily0:14:13 punishable until you tell me that that0:14:15 you will punish the stupid one0:14:17 it's bad rationally but that's all it is0:14:20 it is despicable rationally but doesn't0:14:22 mean it's deserving hellfire or paradise0:14:24 yet0:14:24 this is another issue altogether0:14:28 because something being rationally uh0:14:31 bad0:14:32 or ugly like lying and so on or all0:14:34 because it undermined the0:14:36 the fact that the truth has been the0:14:37 highest value it always says that you0:14:40 are worthy of condemning0:14:41 a condemnation of rational beings that's0:14:43 all that doesn't mean that you deserve0:14:44 for example to because they fight0:14:45 or guarantee the time they use that0:14:47 quartering punishment or0:14:49 putter to get under the guillotine0:14:51 doesn't mean that0:14:52 you have to have more injunction about0:14:54 that0:14:55 and that's that's what the messengers0:14:57 are all about even the acknowledgment0:14:59 that0:14:59 allah is your lord which is imprinted in0:15:02 the genes let us say0:15:03 in the future and possibly with the0:15:05 so-called god complex and the brain is0:15:06 there0:15:07 all that is itself alone without enemies0:15:09 that is empty he's just acknowledging0:15:11 he's the lord0:15:12 he has the right of command i hold no0:15:13 commands what i'm supposed to do0:15:16 since he did not send any messengers i0:15:18 will live the way i live0:15:19 i will try to be as rational as good as0:15:21 possible according to rationality0:15:23 and that's all and even in that there is0:15:26 no reason to believe there will be0:15:28 accountability based on that at all0:15:31 no compelling reason it looks near that0:15:34 if you are living a moral life according0:15:36 to reason0:15:37 a rational god should be rewarding you0:15:39 for that but0:15:40 is that is that really a necessity that0:15:43 is and it's capable no0:15:44 only fair thought i'm gonna count you0:15:46 and you will have to have the two0:15:48 options0:15:49 we have a reward or punishment if0:15:51 someone could assert the case there is0:15:53 no compelling reason0:15:54 really to believe that a rational being0:15:57 must be destructive for your makriyama0:15:59 maybe it's just the universe is one face0:16:01 and this this thing is not a testing0:16:03 it's just the way universe works and you0:16:05 have to0:16:05 live through it it's just kind of0:16:06 accepted that's the way existence0:16:08 enterprise you pay for being in0:16:10 existence0:16:10 and enjoying a life of rationality for a0:16:12 limited time0:16:14 there's nothing compelling or necessity0:16:16 of reason forcing that0:16:18 that that0:16:21 that that you must be resurrected you0:16:23 have to receive a report about a0:16:24 convincing report from revelation0:16:26 because this is a possibility it's not0:16:27 a russian city it is i said russianists0:16:30 would say0:16:31 a rational and0:16:34 some kind of a rational or really help a0:16:37 knowledgeable god would not create0:16:38 rational beings who can ponder about0:16:40 life and death and so on without really0:16:43 intending to0:16:44 distract them and and accountable this0:16:46 looks very0:16:47 very reasonable but it's not in the0:16:49 sense that it is like one plus one is0:16:51 equal to is persuasive that you cannot0:16:53 say you can't say the other other0:16:55 options0:16:55 is is void or can be proven to be0:16:58 impossible0:17:00 so need for messengers and in the way0:17:02 some0:17:03 some islamists say that that you need it0:17:05 for to make your life happy and0:17:07 it's similar to that is is much better0:17:10 obviously than the christian claim that0:17:12 the0:17:12 satan god or some kind of a deity died0:17:14 in the cross for your sake or something0:17:16 but it will if it develops further it0:17:18 will end in the same level0:17:19 of nationality that's not that's not the0:17:21 way it is0:17:22 the reality is this is the testing0:17:24 universe and0:17:25 that for that testing will be followed0:17:28 by accountability among the testing0:17:31 and how you endure the test and how you0:17:32 saw how you passed the test0:17:35 and there would be reward and punishment0:17:38 and for that you need the messengers to0:17:40 bring that in such a way0:17:41 that nobody has an excuse except the0:17:44 other who did notice your messenger or0:17:46 the one who has no capability to0:17:47 understand the messenger like they have0:17:49 entirely and so on they are0:17:50 excluded and they have their own0:17:52 special treatment that the general0:17:54 average human being0:17:55 will have that will have this0:17:57 discoverability and access to0:18:00 the messengers normally and if he has0:18:02 access then it is responsible if he0:18:04 doesn't have access he is not0:18:05 responsible0:18:06 in the court of your qiyamah and the0:18:09 messengers don't will tell you that0:18:10 there is a resurrection0:18:11 because it's a report from the divine0:18:14 who knows0:18:14 and was capable of doing it because they0:18:17 said rational analysis would not uh0:18:19 bring that be undoubtedly make it it0:18:21 shows that it's a possibility it's not0:18:23 impossible as somebody0:18:24 escalate this is observed it's clearly a0:18:26 possibility0:18:28 and you can construct many models for0:18:30 the selections that's very easy to0:18:32 understand0:18:32 provided there's a car create a creative0:18:36 agent who was only put into an online0:18:41 you would be capable to keep all your0:18:42 records your soul or recorded0:18:44 somebody with the same body or another0:18:46 body that's not a problem0:18:48 how come he didn't give us a choice not0:18:50 to take the test0:18:53 this is this is not possible in in0:18:56 this is that that0:18:59 there's a fundamental decision like0:19:01 that's like other that's the way your0:19:02 universe is constructed0:19:04 because if if you look at it is the0:19:06 following way0:19:08 uh if if you want to have the choice to0:19:10 be tested you must0:19:11 be uh sufficiently rushed and you are0:19:13 being sufficiently knowledgeable0:19:14 sufficiently capable of of making the0:19:17 shows or not being the show the question0:19:19 what what would be the repercussion of0:19:20 either one of them0:19:22 what will be the repetition of either0:19:24 one of them and what's really the result0:19:26 that already and if you're at that level0:19:28 only the damage is done you must have0:19:29 lived until 18200:19:31 gain sufficient knowledge and then you0:19:33 are stuck already in the universal0:19:34 testing and problems0:19:36 so the show is what has to be done in0:19:38 advance there's no other one this is the0:19:40 question like any question of color why0:19:42 he shows this universe not another one0:19:43 or just0:19:44 right away paradise would be very kind0:19:46 to have by the way apological state0:19:48 forever it's not really a choice then is0:19:50 it because it's the0:19:51 show is but the story have been sounds0:19:53 gentler al-qaeda0:19:54 and that's where the people always say0:19:56 he's been acting these laws for you he0:19:58 might benefit0:19:58 or he his son died in the cross there's0:20:01 no need for what's under that course0:20:02 just create a paradise to leave that0:20:04 people enjoy themselves0:20:05 for authenticity to start with it0:20:06 doesn't make any sense i never chose to0:20:08 be born yeah0:20:09 and i never chose to enter into the test0:20:11 yeah so i guess there's no way to give0:20:13 you the show is because when the moment0:20:14 you are given the show is you have0:20:16 already grown up and be0:20:17 in such a level of sophistication pass0:20:19 through these stages0:20:20 that's already the the damage is done0:20:22 they could argue that's god0:20:24 there must be there could be another way0:20:26 there's other possibilities for him no0:20:28 there's no question0:20:29 another possibility that's not that just0:20:30 means that means0:20:32 the possibility0:20:47 with impossibility it's this way because0:20:49 the concept of free choice0:20:51 must be a three chooser there and it's a0:20:53 created being0:20:54 if it's a created being he has to be0:20:57 there and choose to choose0:20:59 he cannot shoot before his because he0:21:01 exists he never asked that he said i0:21:03 don't0:21:04 want why didn't he give us a choice to0:21:07 be tested0:21:07 not give us a choice too no he didn't0:21:09 give a chance to be tested you will be0:21:10 tested no choice0:21:11 there's no way to do therefore the0:21:13 that's giving you a shot0:21:22 but you cannot do that because you will0:21:24 be you to make a choice you have to be a0:21:26 choosing being that you have to be0:21:28 because in in that universe at least you0:21:30 have to go to a certain age and the test0:21:32 is already done0:21:33 yes so the only thing that has made a0:21:35 choice here is god0:21:37 god hasn't given i'm going down the line0:21:39 so so there is no choice for us0:21:41 we have no the show is of this type of0:21:44 universe it's done by the divine it's my0:21:46 way or the highway0:21:47 yeah that's what he said clearly in in0:21:49 in0:21:50 in in the hadith who does not accept my0:21:52 qabar should leave the reversal go to0:21:54 another god there is none it's0:21:55 impossible0:21:56 it doesn't work it's it's impossible it0:21:58 kind of cannot be constructed so then0:21:59 how do you get out the arguments of0:22:01 injustice0:22:02 and injustice because then justice0:22:04 injustice would be only if he that if he0:22:06 does not give you the capability to pass0:22:08 the test0:22:08 with flying colors if you choose to pass0:22:10 it so you have to pass it or to fail it0:22:12 you may have said0:22:13 i failed i prefer to be my own lord and0:22:16 i reject your command0:22:17 and then he'll fire fight and where does0:22:19 that definition come from which was0:22:20 definitely what you've just given about0:22:22 justice that you know as long as you0:22:23 have a capability0:22:24 what is definition of that's russian0:22:26 what is this yeah what is0:22:27 the definition of justice i don't know0:22:28 is there a sharia definition of just0:22:30 a rational definition justice is that i0:22:32 reward you according to your deed and0:22:34 punish you according to your deed if i0:22:36 punish you word we did not commit any0:22:38 any any misdeed0:22:39 or you i can't reward you without you0:22:41 there that's that's that's that's the0:22:43 mercy0:22:43 gift but punishing without being guilty0:22:45 of anything0:22:46 contradicts the concept of punishment so0:22:48 so justice is to do with0:22:50 reward punishments what you're saying0:22:51 yeah that's it that's the basic question0:22:52 the other thing so absolutely just it0:22:54 does not exist it's just an imaginary0:22:55 concept0:22:56 some christians try to develop which has0:22:58 no standing doesn't it0:22:59 what about i am only accountable for the0:23:01 things that i0:23:03 do absolutely so i'm not going to be0:23:07 punished0:23:08 for whatever i have not done so i'm not0:23:11 necessarily being rewarded and i'm not0:23:12 being punished0:23:14 that's the punishment the reward part he0:23:15 promised reward now0:23:17 no but i'm not not what i'm just saying0:23:18 is that that's you're saying is that0:23:20 reward and punishment0:23:22 is justice so if you're rewarded it0:23:23 means that that's justice0:23:25 reward what could be a gift right could0:23:28 be a gift0:23:29 but but punishment is definitely nobody0:23:32 nobody can be punished unless you0:23:33 committed something with your punishment0:23:35 and he has been given the information0:23:37 this is a crime so he has to know it's a0:23:38 crime0:23:39 and he has the choice and sufficient0:23:40 capability to do it so there's some0:23:42 question with some old feelings of0:23:43 disgust0:23:44 especially in islam to me is it possible0:23:46 for allah to command the0:23:49 things exceeding your ability the cliff0:23:52 is it possible that you0:23:53 and someone said it is possible but it's0:23:55 not they made a mistake there0:23:57 because if i made it to cleveland for0:24:00 one0:24:00 an all-knowing being i know that you0:24:03 cannot hit it i say0:24:04 do it what i know you cannot do it this0:24:06 is impossible0:24:08 this meaning i'm just like like a child0:24:10 could tell you0:24:11 fly in the sky without wings or any0:24:13 machinery if you don't fly i'm going to0:24:15 tell my my my my torso to beat you up0:24:18 they will beat you up he can't do that0:24:20 it is possible it can be done fine so0:24:22 that is0:24:23 about that so that's one form of how we0:24:25 understand justice i'm saying that0:24:28 if there is a crime that has been0:24:29 committed yeah0:24:31 justice to me is and i never committed0:24:33 the crime justice to me is0:24:35 not to be accused of the crime no that's0:24:37 justice yeah it doesn't necessarily have0:24:39 to do with reward or punishment no no no0:24:41 so0:24:42 i'm not punished so really so0:24:52 and for the one who committed the crime0:24:53 with sufficient capability of being0:24:55 accountable0:24:56 sufficient reason sufficient rationality0:24:58 and sufficient knowledge and free will0:25:00 if for example some someone is under0:25:02 duress and he is forced to do a crime0:25:04 and he cannot0:25:05 cannot defend himself and uh he is not0:25:07 responsible we know that0:25:08 action and the duress is not responsible0:25:11 you have to have really sufficiently0:25:12 free will0:25:13 you have to have really sufficient uh0:25:16 information and knowledge to make a0:25:17 a informed judgment then it is a crime0:25:20 allah is0:25:21 yeah what does what is that this doesn't0:25:24 commit injustice that's0:25:25 it0:25:42 divine names because it doesn't make any0:25:44 sense in that way0:25:45 and even if you see what what ahadi say0:25:48 he said0:25:48 i prohibited injustice on me so don't be0:25:51 unjust to each other0:25:52 i could have been unjust if i wanted0:25:54 because it it's accessible it's very0:25:56 easy0:25:56 go to any tyrannical regime and oppose0:25:59 the regime and run away from the country0:26:01 they will take their family your family0:26:02 and torture them or they did not do0:26:03 anything0:26:04 this is lame and clear and rationally0:26:06 and defensible injustice0:26:08 which is easy to do that's not a problem0:26:10 and or allah is capable of doing it but0:26:12 he0:26:12 never did it and he will never do it0:26:14 with all eternities because this is0:26:15 what contradicts his holiness and his0:26:17 high rank not because it contradicts0:26:20 uh logic absolutely possibly himself no0:26:23 but this is allah for everything0:26:24 that's what expression used by the0:26:26 hadith0:26:29 i prohibited myself from being just0:26:32 don't commit injustice to each other0:26:35 you have to see the justice in this0:26:37 world no no no this is another issue0:26:39 there where it will be seen and so on0:26:41 all scores will be set up because you0:26:43 cannot settle all scores unless you0:26:45 start from0:26:46 point zero and then one by one because0:26:48 some0:26:49 injustices committed today are related0:26:51 to injustice committed yesterday0:26:53 attraction of your parents and0:26:54 grandparents they must be accounted0:26:56 before so it must be0:26:57 the the the rules will be open from the0:27:00 beginning to the end otherwise it will0:27:01 never discourse can never be settled and0:27:03 that's the reason0:27:04 judiciary will never go back for0:27:06 hundreds of years because it's0:27:07 impossible to get all the facts and0:27:08 information so i'll tell you0:27:10 my son what happened with the0:27:11 grandfather couldn't do anything you0:27:13 can't only just0:27:14 summarily condemn it or praise it that's0:27:16 all we have to deal with things as the0:27:18 reality as now0:27:19 who owns something now you know for0:27:20 example this house0:27:23 two thousand years old maybe by by by0:27:25 britain's this place0:27:26 and then the saxon came and kicked him0:27:28 out and provide the place and then no0:27:29 one came and kicked them out0:27:31 we cannot go that far but because no we0:27:33 don't know who kicked whom to whom it0:27:34 belongs we cannot give it to the great0:27:36 great greater fan of the0:27:37 original britain and even the even0:27:40 though someone could say that britain0:27:41 took taxes from wild animals why they're0:27:43 supposed to have no right0:27:45 although by animals we have a bit more0:27:46 of liberty because of other reasons but0:27:48 so you see it it cannot go but allah is0:27:50 able because you will start from zero0:27:52 and then0:27:52 get the book going one by one and settle0:27:55 the accounts as they come along0:27:56 but this is the details of their yeah0:27:59 the justice in your0:28:01 to the fundamental point is that0:28:06 the question of that i didn't get any0:28:07 choices is impossible this is rationally0:28:09 impossible0:28:10 because to be a to to given to be given0:28:12 in shoes you must be a choosing being0:28:14 choosing beings must have0:28:15 reached a certain level of capability a0:28:17 certain level of knowledge then he has0:28:19 passed in the universe and he is already0:28:20 in the testing universe0:28:21 already in the midst but i suppose on an0:28:23 empirical level it doesn't make a0:28:25 difference about choice because0:28:27 allah of the creator has the choice to0:28:30 do what he wills0:28:31 yeah say this is this is this is the the0:28:34 deepest0:28:34 level of other is that ultimately0:28:37 ultimately0:28:39 either even the atheist cannot run from0:28:43 the away from that0:28:44 either it's the divine who made the0:28:45 fundamental show is over time of the0:28:46 universe or two and there's no other0:28:48 choice0:28:49 nobody else is there to choose and it's0:28:51 impossible to have anybody instead0:28:52 because they are not created yet0:28:54 so that has to be done there's no other0:28:56 escape it's impossible otherwise0:28:58 all and yes you say the universe is like0:29:00 that this is by necessity of of0:29:02 physics and you don't like tsunami you0:29:05 like them you can scream at them you can0:29:06 condemn them they will come and sweep0:29:08 you away from your sister that's very0:29:09 prominent so you like it you dislike it0:29:11 that's it0:29:12 you find you find it regretful not0:29:14 forgetful it doesn't happen this is all0:29:15 human0:29:16 human emotions which have no value0:29:18 whatsoever so this is the basic0:29:20 fundamental issue of qatar cannot be run0:29:22 away from0:29:22 nobody can run away no no atheist0:29:28 there will be ultimately a reducible0:29:31 core which is done against your will0:29:34 and before your existence and it has it0:29:37 has been done and settled and0:29:39 forgotten and nothing can be harmed0:29:42 unless there is the hadith said if you0:29:43 don't accept my adopt me the fundamental0:29:45 choice0:29:46 in that sense then you have to leave my0:29:48 universe and0:29:49 accept my health and my heaven which is0:29:51 impossible meaning there's no other way0:29:53 just come to your senses it's not0:29:54 possible talking about the choices being0:29:56 in this world0:29:57 and i thought then i read in the quran0:30:00 where it says allah0:30:02 asked the heavens and earth did they0:30:04 would0:30:05 be responsible this this is this is most0:30:07 likely metaphorical because0:30:09 that the meaning of that is only that uh0:30:12 the0:30:12 that there are grand creatures but they0:30:15 are not equipped with rationality and0:30:17 and free choice0:30:18 what is the israelite oh wait0:30:22 the covenant to the heavens and the0:30:23 earth and the mountains0:30:25 and they said no no we don't want to0:30:26 accept it no we know the heavens and0:30:28 they do not have any0:30:30 mind of any meaning of any really0:30:34 sustainable uh specifications you can0:30:37 tell0:30:38 to be a rational being so this is a0:30:39 metaphorical of that that these0:30:41 great huge beings they don't have the0:30:45 the the power of reasoning and they0:30:47 don't have the free will so they are not0:30:48 responsible and metaphorically if they0:30:50 have been offered that they have0:30:51 rejected it0:30:52 stated differently allah created them so0:30:54 that they cannot accept that covenant0:30:56 anyway0:30:56 so by their their mere time of creation0:30:59 they are not capable of carrying the0:31:01 covenant0:31:01 so it has to understood this way yeah0:31:03 but then he and then it goes on to say0:31:04 that he asked insane0:31:06 no he didn't ask us accepted it0:31:10 what does that mean it means what is it0:31:13 because they have rationality they0:31:14 created this way by being an insult0:31:16 they are already capable of accepting0:31:18 the covenant0:31:20 they accepted it so in a way by what the0:31:23 brother was going to say0:31:24 it was offered to them okay this offered0:31:28 to adam is not offered to you0:31:40 are you willing to go out or just you0:31:42 expire there i prefer to expire there0:31:45 yeah it is not possible0:31:51 there's no way to solve that problem0:31:52 there's no solution that it's0:31:54 impossible for him yeah it's impossible0:31:58 because0:32:12 then suddenly an angel appeared in front0:32:13 of you they listen0:32:15 do you want to continue existing or you0:32:16 just cease to exist and become dust0:32:19 you have the choice now today but if0:32:22 that's the case0:32:23 then all the testing universes have0:32:24 disappeared it's not because every0:32:26 angel appearing in front of you with0:32:28 will with certitude0:32:29 in such a way that you have a real0:32:30 choice because if it is questionable say0:32:32 is that my imagination or did i0:32:34 yesterday0:32:34 have maybe one one marijuana too much0:32:38 if that's that then it is not sufficient0:32:40 choice then it is a questionable issue0:32:42 so it has to be a certificate and what0:32:44 is with certitude the whole testing is0:32:45 gone0:32:46 now the question why not create a0:32:48 paradigm to start within the first place0:32:49 because creating entire is impossible to0:32:51 start with because it will be unjustly0:32:53 punishment0:32:54 for no sin so0:33:07 the language is very dangerous when you0:33:09 say it's impossible upon me0:33:11 or so it's impossible for him i mean0:33:13 whether it's possible it's not even the0:33:15 issue the issue is that he has the will0:33:17 he's he's exercising0:33:19 his word what i'm saying the question0:33:22 that you want to be asked about being0:33:24 tested or not0:33:26 is only if you are a rational being who0:33:28 can be asked and attend there's already0:33:30 a test0:33:31 already happened the damage is already0:33:33 done that's impossible0:33:35 but that you could have give that option0:33:37 then it was not a testing universe0:33:39 that's another father0:33:40 he shows that this universe is not the0:33:42 other one that you could create and0:33:43 paradise from the beginning that's0:33:45 possible0:33:46 but then it would be the issue of choice0:33:48 will not be will not be coming forward0:33:50 you see so but within that context this0:33:53 is impossible it will0:33:54 create internal contradiction and this0:33:56 is impossible0:33:58 divine power does not reach the0:33:59 impossible it's the same way like for0:34:01 example0:34:01 can god have a genuine son a divine son0:34:04 is not possible because the necessary0:34:05 existing thing is one god will be split0:34:07 into0:34:07 and the genuine son must be having a0:34:09 divine sex a bit of his power0:34:11 it's not possible his father is not0:34:13 beatable not not divisible in parts it's0:34:15 not personal it's not like the creation0:34:17 isn't like she's impossible that's not0:34:20 that's not accessible to divine power0:34:22 it will get you all all the0:34:23 contradiction the atheists say can't god0:34:25 create a stone which is so heavy that he0:34:26 himself cannot lift and so0:34:28 yeah all these are all these because0:34:30 they are into contradictions and0:34:32 getting the divine power which is0:34:34 supposed to be unlimited0:34:36 at least in some christian schools up to0:34:38 the level that he can split into0:34:39 and have a genuine son making him0:34:43 possibly not existing at the same time0:34:45 unexisted which is just will make reason0:34:48 and rationality completely disappears0:34:50 makes no it makes no sense0:34:52 nothing makes any sense anymore then0:34:54 touching upon the ayah that the brother0:34:55 mentioned0:34:57 when where do you know that something is0:35:00 metaphorical or something is literal0:35:02 because we from our rational0:35:05 limited rational ability we assume0:35:09 on the surface that mountains can't0:35:11 think and other creation can't think but0:35:13 we know that they0:35:14 worship allah everything what you should0:35:17 mean0:35:18 obedience obedience could be by free0:35:19 will but it happens in the year0:35:22 he said come willing willingly0:35:25 say we're coming willingly this is again0:35:28 in the sense that0:35:31 because the law is impregnating them0:35:33 will make them obedient that's the0:35:34 meaning of wearing that0:35:35 because we know they don't have a free0:35:37 will from experience and immediate0:35:39 results of immediate experience and also0:35:42 other sexual evidences0:35:43 they don't have faith we know that they0:35:44 don't have freeway why did he say it0:35:46 come willingly or anything this is this0:35:48 is a this is0:35:49 this is the language this is a beautiful0:35:51 expression you have to enjoy it0:35:52 imagine he telling the heaven there they0:35:54 start talking and he talks to him this0:35:56 gives you a very nice0:35:57 image which you can appreciate things0:35:59 more more more0:36:00 literally wise not everything should be0:36:01 done right in a philosophical dry way0:36:04 there are things which are done in a0:36:05 metaphorical way much better than0:36:07 drawing0:36:07 sometimes you give examples which0:36:10 illuminate things to the mind better0:36:11 than giving the straight facts which can0:36:13 be put in like formula0:36:14 mathematical equations that's these0:36:17 things0:36:18 uh not very the quran is not very full0:36:21 of the0:36:21 very few of them the old books have0:36:23 plenty of them but the quran has0:36:25 has quite a little amount of them but0:36:26 this has has its own0:36:28 with his own value in matter of bringing0:36:31 the message0:36:32 exciting the the aesthetic taste of0:36:35 of the mind the mind is not only a0:36:37 thinking0:36:38 also we can really appreciate beauty0:36:40 abrasive synchro harmonization0:36:42 and such such expression are having0:36:45 their own beauty0:36:46 and their and their attractiveness and0:36:48 their effect on the soul0:36:50 to appreciate an understanding but0:36:52 shouldn't everything be taken0:36:54 literally unless there is a karina to0:36:56 say that it's very clear here0:36:58 by necessity of reason these these0:37:00 beings do not have sufficient0:37:02 rationality and they are not able no0:37:04 mountain would be asking0:37:05 about anything but they're created from0:37:07 atoms which are then have free worlds0:37:10 we don't know they have maybe a very0:37:12 limited freedom maybe according to0:37:14 quantum mechanics some kind of0:37:15 uncertainty0:37:16 but is that enough to be accountable0:37:18 well if they're made up from the parts0:37:21 i mean you said yourself in previous0:37:23 circles that even0:37:24 an electron yes this is not enough free0:37:27 will to make a decision that0:37:28 comes obedient or not obviously he's0:37:30 obeying it maybe our limitations that we0:37:32 can't find i'm not saying it's not our0:37:34 limitation0:37:35 if we work from the universe we know0:37:37 from the language we know we have to say0:37:38 it's metaphorical0:37:39 if there's something a deeper layer0:37:41 maybe we'll detect it one day i'm not0:37:42 excluding that0:37:43 but to start with this explanation is0:37:45 very reasonable0:37:47 yeah this is very double there are other0:37:50 places which are very clearly0:37:51 metaphorical0:37:52 in the hadith when allah created the0:37:54 womb0:37:58 we know that our head is part of the0:38:00 body it's not a separate entity maybe0:38:02 it's a black0:38:03 a domain of idiot the entities the one0:38:06 who said the womb hung on his belt0:38:08 you know allah has to bite you know that0:38:10 we know that there's no address or0:38:12 better0:38:12 thing like that say what's your problem0:38:14 and he knows what's her problem0:38:16 so this is the dialogue to give you an0:38:18 image as you're looking at at the movie0:38:20 enjoying it it's not only knowing the0:38:22 meaning enjoying ointment is also0:38:24 important so the implicator0:38:26 said i am afraid i will be cut this is0:38:28 an arab expression0:38:29 so in english it would not be nice i0:38:31 would be disjoint or something maybe0:38:33 say is it sufficient for you that0:38:35 whoever joins you i join him0:38:37 or he will cut you i cut him said0:38:38 yesterday it's for you0:38:40 what's meaning what's the meaning of0:38:42 that that if you cut the relationship0:38:44 allah will cut your relation with you0:38:45 that's the meaning of it but is that as0:38:48 nice as this picture no0:38:51 so don't just be be a literalist in the0:38:53 sense that you lose all taste of poetry0:38:55 and all face to nice images0:38:57 and and all the things which literally0:39:01 and and and0:39:02 dramatic art would represent better than0:39:04 just straightforward philosophical0:39:06 expressions0:39:07 that's definitely not0:39:11 like there are many things simple facts0:39:13 of life are represented by some0:39:15 beautiful movies much better than you0:39:17 could imagine you know0:39:19 put in a complete story and so on and0:39:21 the sense of the story is a very simple0:39:23 fact0:39:24 like for example many many stories where0:39:26 friends struggle to0:39:28 up to death to protect each other just0:39:30 to enforce the principle of friendship0:39:32 and0:39:32 standing with your friend up to the last0:39:34 moment and the whole story will give0:39:36 that0:39:36 give you that in a beautiful way of0:39:38 appreciation and tasting0:39:39 with enjoyment mixed not the poor the0:39:42 pure0:39:44 uh philosophical expression or the one0:39:46 which you read in the book of plateau0:39:48 that's very dry people would prefer to0:39:51 have0:39:52 to watch avatar the reading of history0:39:54 of the indians what happened to them0:39:56 you see that that's what i mean not0:39:58 everything is just dry purely0:40:00 yes we should have it according to the0:40:03 straight direct meaning of the wording0:40:05 unless the rational necessity or other0:40:06 textual evidence0:40:08 forces us otherwise0:40:12 so need for messengers need actually is0:40:16 only to0:40:20 make the testing a proper testing0:40:24 and the the the the punishment at least0:40:26 your qiyamah0:40:27 well-founded and uh are not committing0:40:30 any injustice0:40:31 and that's the reason that all evidence0:40:34 of the quran are clear that0:40:36 nobody will otherwise nobody will perish0:40:39 unless the one who is0:40:40 hopelessly perishing0:40:44 someone who is there's no way to save0:40:46 him because0:40:48 allah will give you all the excuses0:40:50 possible possibly you can0:40:53 up to extreme limits0:40:56 and if you don't pass all of that that0:40:58 means you are you are the hopeless case0:41:00 who has0:41:00 received all the evidences received all0:41:02 the injunctions0:41:04 got all the opportunities and decided to0:41:06 all neglect them0:41:07 and just follow exactly what what the0:41:10 opposite what he's supposed to be doing0:41:18 how many had it about the the the0:41:20 judgment and how the interrogation will0:41:22 happen and so on0:41:24 even some some of them through extremes0:41:25 very rarely but there is a hadith0:41:28 whoever was interrogated will be in0:41:31 trouble0:41:32 yeah this is what their accountability0:41:34 is but this is0:41:35 these are various aspects have to be0:41:37 taken together0:41:38 because there's the hour to destroy0:41:40 fewer things and that way that0:41:41 it will get digging every point meaning0:41:43 you are in trouble yeah0:41:44 this is all synchronized but even in the0:41:47 interrogation0:41:48 will be given all excuses even including0:41:50 the question did the angel falsify0:41:52 anything0:41:53 that they lie do you have other counter0:41:55 evidences all that will be asked0:41:59 whether messengers only men or women0:42:05 this was raised once with somebody and0:42:08 he said0:42:09 you know the verse that says0:42:13 the only place in the world we didn't0:42:15 send before you accept men0:42:17 yeah now he could have said uh0:42:21 let's say instead of he could have said0:42:23 nas0:42:24 or people or something yeah but but but0:42:26 the one that was very precise0:42:28 yeah surely but the the issue is radial0:42:31 sometimes means0:42:32 the opposite of angel because the ayah0:42:34 before say0:42:35 if would have been sent down to an angel0:42:37 yeah0:42:38 then we would follow an angel we would0:42:41 follow but a man like us why should we0:42:42 follow a man like us0:42:44 and the quran respond to that said if we0:42:46 really made him0:42:48 if we made him uh an angel if you're0:42:50 told that the messenger had been angel0:42:51 would have made him a man0:42:52 which may be meaning human because you0:42:54 know an english man means0:42:55 human being man arabic is as he says0:42:59 not necessary could be meaning a human0:43:01 being also0:43:02 but the most meaning is the opposite of0:43:04 woman yes i understand that i'm not0:43:06 denying that i say0:43:07 this is not really something which is0:43:10 with0:43:10 utmost attitude because uh when it0:43:13 in the context of their asking about0:43:15 angels and say if it would have been an0:43:17 angel we would0:43:18 make him in the shape of a man and he0:43:19 would be confused again because an angel0:43:21 will not be able to communicate with you0:43:23 as an angel he has to have him in shape0:43:26 he has to have human shape to0:43:28 communicate with you he has to be human0:43:30 take human in nature human interaction0:43:33 so you can take him as a model as an0:43:35 example0:43:36 and then the same situation will will0:43:38 arise0:43:39 he is a human he's not an angel0:43:42 and angel in their original original0:43:45 nature and appearance are not0:43:46 susceptible to humans0:43:48 i'm sure it's evan hasan i was reading0:43:50 on the internet but apparently0:43:51 a lot of controversies around him is0:43:53 that he that he said0:43:57 that the mother of musa the prophet0:44:00 prophet but that it's possible that0:44:02 prophetess could be made yeah but he has0:44:04 a point0:44:04 because that ayah about the men is only0:44:06 for messengers0:44:09 while prophets are not messengers0:44:14 one i've forgotten what surah is it0:44:16 talks about all the0:44:17 messengers uh it puts marion there as0:44:21 well0:44:22 and after that it says and these were0:44:25 um it talks about you know east side0:44:28 talks about0:44:29 yeah yeah and then it talks about0:44:32 uh marion and then it says and these0:44:34 were the messengers0:44:46 on them for prophets holy men0:44:49 which again makes the issue open again0:44:52 so it's not0:44:53 if you say holy prophet so they'll have0:44:54 to count money under them0:44:56 without any issue there wouldn't be0:44:57 anything again yeah0:44:59 is he having the same stance that it's0:45:01 possible or he's saying yes they are0:45:02 also included as prophets0:45:04 oh even has them no it hasn't said0:45:06 maryam and they know that0:45:08 because they the angels talked will give0:45:09 them revelation they are prophets0:45:11 they are prophets and what about the0:45:13 disciples of israel that's not messenger0:45:14 because of the eye of the regime0:45:18 is not an issue because because i i0:45:21 don't see there's any problem that0:45:23 why why not send a woman because0:45:25 obviously0:45:27 carrying the message and the struggle0:45:28 with with the environment and so on is a0:45:30 hard job which maybe only men would be0:45:32 able0:45:33 to perform even survive barely survive0:45:36 well a woman would be busy with her0:45:38 household children because that's the0:45:39 main responsibility0:45:40 possibly obliged to be taught0:45:44 to be serving her husband or living a0:45:45 certain in general0:45:47 limitation by the husband that it's true0:45:49 and the point where he says0:45:50 deborah was uh yeah maybe that's what0:45:54 what whatever hasn't also gave her the0:45:55 direction that there are various their0:45:57 prophetesses in in the history0:46:11 it can be usually only carried on0:46:15 and and and performed reasonably0:46:19 well by men besides also women who will0:46:22 have the issue of0:46:22 pregnancy and all these things which are0:46:24 really a handicap in someone who is0:46:26 full-time0:46:26 devoted for doubt possibly or you know0:46:29 some guy there's some direct woman0:46:30 that's not that woman cannot be a diet0:46:32 but to the level of a messenger will0:46:33 confront tyrants who will0:46:35 confront whole societies it's it is a0:46:37 job which maybe0:46:38 only men will be0:46:42 and should not be really burdened on a0:46:44 woman might be the author of that book0:46:46 what's it called the return of0:46:48 pharaoh um0:46:52 you know i mean examples like that yeah0:46:55 there are many females0:46:57 die i'm not saying messenger will have0:46:59 to establish a status on0:47:01 and also in the time of vision time past0:47:03 you should not forget the societies0:47:05 where paternal0:47:06 where the men were dominant so it's it0:47:08 will be a an extra problem if0:47:10 to send a female messenger will create0:47:13 further problems0:47:14 for the society for the messenger for0:47:16 everyone else0:47:19 for the disciples messengers of isa0:47:35 i was reading somewhere once and the0:47:38 language it used0:47:40 was and we inspired them as well0:47:43 yeah and their prophets that have got0:47:46 certain limited prophethood0:47:47 i think what what what causes some0:47:49 people problems with that0:47:51 is that they they have a problem with0:47:53 the thinking that prophets0:47:55 must have all the characteristics and0:47:57 valuability which muhammad salam that0:47:59 would discuss that i think in the book0:48:00 of tahrir0:48:00 which i refer the people to to read that0:48:04 that the only necessity of reason0:48:06 dictate that0:48:07 for for a forward for messengers0:48:10 or this also for prophets for messenger0:48:12 because the miseries the one who has0:48:14 who has to bring the message to the0:48:16 people is that0:48:17 he is unfavorable for about that what he0:48:20 reports from allah0:48:22 otherwise it will be not an authority0:48:23 towards that people we lack any square0:48:26 so he says allah ordered it or0:48:29 in a clear text which has no other0:48:31 misinterpretation0:48:32 that it's referring that is coming from0:48:34 allah or this is from allah or this0:48:35 would have been0:48:36 qiyamah has been informed by in that0:48:39 it cannot be a mistake or or a lie0:48:42 because otherwise prophet0:48:43 will lose its meaning but he could be a0:48:45 sinner0:48:46 could be a0:49:00 because if he commits a mistake or or0:49:02 makes0:49:03 or or lies then that cannot be corrected0:49:05 because maybe0:49:06 if he makes a mistake he reporting from0:49:08 allah in such way that is clearly from0:49:10 allah0:49:11 yesterday every mistake was not captured0:49:12 allah i just had somebody told you that0:49:15 then this statement may be also from0:49:17 allah and the second one at the0:49:18 infinitum it doesn't work0:49:19 so from the beginning without any doubt0:49:24 that if he's a prophet but also0:49:27 about the apostles allah threatening0:49:30 them with0:49:30 with the first word it says i forgot the0:49:32 first but it seems0:49:35 yeah allah is threatening them and some0:49:38 scholars said they said no no we are not0:49:39 going to accept this this uh this0:49:41 this we don't want it leave it we just0:49:43 have a you know0:49:44 and that's it some scholars try to0:49:46 harmonize that with the reports in the0:49:48 new testament that there was no0:49:50 no no tablet coming from heaven and when0:49:53 they stated if you become careful after0:49:54 that or0:49:55 deny my messenger then i would punish0:49:57 your punishment with nobody in the0:49:58 universe with that0:49:59 say no no we don't want let's have just0:50:01 a normal meal we don't want to have a0:50:03 tablet from heaven so some scholars say0:50:05 that was it about tablets0:50:09 i would bring it down0:50:21 so it didn't come down many scholars say0:50:23 did not come down0:50:24 because when they said no we don't know0:50:26 what it helps0:50:28 we prefer to be to be uh0:50:31 not not put in such a severe test0:50:34 i always had a problem with the argument0:50:36 that has had constructed by saying is0:50:38 that0:50:38 by definition all of them have to be0:50:40 milestone because0:50:41 i'm sure that there was a prophet that0:50:43 he was fleeing for banister0:50:45 and then he had and then he asked one of0:50:48 the trees0:50:49 to open up yeah0:50:52 went inside0:50:57 he died in it because allah said that0:51:00 you asked the tree to help you not me0:51:03 so maybe this is some kind of real story0:51:06 about that but but we know but we know0:51:10 but we know that eunice0:51:12 went without permission and left his his0:51:14 place ali should not have his place0:51:16 so no the argument is wrong it's utterly0:51:19 wrong because the only0:51:20 russian the only thing we should kind of0:51:22 rationally defensible is that0:51:23 when a prophet assume he's a prophet has0:51:25 been proven but whatever evidences0:51:28 is reported from allah in a0:51:32 language which which has no multiple0:51:34 meaning0:51:36 like for example they say allah ordered0:51:38 this or prohibited this this has no0:51:39 other meaning except that0:51:41 but this is bad that could be from allah0:51:43 from his own taste0:51:44 you see what i mean so if you say about0:51:46 something this is bad this is not enough0:51:48 authority0:51:50 you can't say this from allah unless you0:51:52 have an extra evidence0:51:54 but if you say allah said this is not0:51:56 acceptable or this is haram0:51:57 that's done because that cannot be0:51:59 corrected anymore if it's a mistaken or0:52:01 a lie0:52:02 there's no way to collect it because0:52:03 they claim it is it's yesterday0:52:05 i forgot or i made a mistake that's what0:52:07 you're saying now it's also a mistake0:52:10 i lied yesterday you are lying now and0:52:12 it's good0:52:14 say no no i'm correct and this one is0:52:16 not correct0:52:17 and this is called anything it's not0:52:20 possible it has to be from the first0:52:21 instant0:52:22 but has the unique statement in words in0:52:25 linguistic words0:52:27 which leave no doubt that it is a0:52:29 revelation0:52:30 that has to be no mistake and no lie0:52:34 anything else goes yes someone could say0:52:38 if a prophet or a messenger is not0:52:42 complying with his command what's the0:52:43 problem with that approach0:52:46 for his follower because if he is not a0:52:50 good model is very difficult to follow0:52:52 and very difficult to obey but this is0:52:53 not allah is not obliged to give you0:52:55 to relieve you of such hashes he can be0:52:58 merciful enough0:52:59 to relieve you on such a hard test but0:53:01 he he can't test you this way0:53:03 he said the receiver will tell you0:53:04 something similar listen0:53:06 i have received revelation that anyone0:53:08 committed adultery would be floating 1000:53:10 lashes0:53:11 yeah including myself if i don't what's0:53:14 the problem with that it's no problem0:53:15 no nationality russian problem he would0:53:17 be a bad example yes if he commits0:53:19 fornication and we'll be from that but0:53:22 he should be flocked0:53:23 like anybody else as similar would be0:53:26 difficult0:53:27 i agree but who said allah is obliged to0:53:29 make it easy for you0:53:30 he can make it easier he can make a0:53:33 difference not to deliver it0:53:34 possible that would be that bothering0:53:36 our injustice it's very well possible0:53:38 rationally acceptable and defensible0:53:41 that that0:53:42 i give you a command a comma a command i0:53:44 don't comply with it0:53:45 this will not be the nicest way of0:53:47 behavior another versus example but it's0:53:50 and we we know that's for example jesus0:53:53 himself in0:53:53 in the in the new testament to say some0:53:55 places you will find many people say0:53:57 good things and do bad deeds0:53:59 take the good words but don't follow0:54:00 their bodies you say that in various0:54:02 places0:54:04 so it doesn't matter someone's doing bad0:54:05 deeds and still giving good instruction0:54:07 should not deter you from recognizing0:54:09 that his advice is good take the good0:54:11 advice0:54:12 and just look away from his buddies he0:54:14 did if he failed to comply0:54:15 he's not a good example but don't follow0:54:18 follow his words0:54:19 the correct words do you know0:54:22 what's and also hadith you will hear0:54:25 quran0:54:26 saying things and doings take from their0:54:28 saying but don't0:54:29 uh do their doings because they say0:54:32 usually they have0:54:33 usual eloquent advice and nice words0:54:36 but there these don't compromise with0:54:38 that don't follow their bodies0:54:40 like that this is the known fact are0:54:42 they a good mood and no0:54:44 but does not mean that what they are0:54:45 saying is is there a truth and that's0:54:46 all what count in matter of revelation0:54:48 that you get the truth from allah0:54:50 so the claim that the prophet has to be0:54:52 not sinning or infallible in his deeds0:54:55 has no evidence of nationality so what0:54:57 about in terms of the prophets0:54:58 sallam used to have revelation in his0:55:01 sleep as well0:55:01 so there are some people who say that um0:55:05 allah gave me some ill ham0:55:08 whether i was sleeping whether i was0:55:10 awake somewhere but this is not this one0:55:12 does not make this not making anybody a0:55:14 prophet because the prophethood is not0:55:16 what received0:55:17 what the messenger or the prophet0:55:18 receives the revelation is0:55:20 is with certitude and unfair ability0:55:23 that is not what certitude and0:55:25 because dreams could be intermixed with0:55:27 your subconscious desire0:55:28 with your brain settling the daily0:55:30 accounts with all these things0:55:32 and unless you have a sharp distinctive0:55:34 mark telling you0:55:35 what is true and what's not true it is0:55:38 not resistant immigration it could be0:55:39 revelation nobody says0:55:41 dreams could be liberation yes but0:55:43 there's no substitute except for0:55:44 prophets again0:55:47 so dreams are if the only remaining part0:55:50 portion of revelation are the dreams you0:55:52 know the hadith0:55:54 prophet is the dream is one of 46 of0:55:57 of of paths of revelation0:56:02 one for 146 does not mean it is hundred0:56:04 percent revolution so0:56:06 you can't be sure about it and still0:56:08 dreams will continue until you're making0:56:09 the story what if someone turned around0:56:11 that i have certainty0:56:14 he's like how can he asserted you0:56:16 because he's had these dreams0:56:18 i mean i'm going down the broadview line0:56:19 because this is what they they0:56:20 constructed these stories you see so0:56:22 they say0:56:23 i've had and allah can never tell you0:56:24 something bad the prophet said he's0:56:26 mistaken0:56:27 the prophet's been in my dream and that0:56:28 is the prophet because the prophet no no0:56:30 he is this again this is their ignorance0:56:33 and they can mislead you because0:56:34 of the hadith that that who saw me in in0:56:36 the envision and dream has seen me0:56:38 really because0:56:39 the devil does not take my shape it's0:56:40 very clear it's going to take the shape0:56:42 of the prophet who is the sahaba0:56:44 this is only for this penis scholars0:56:45 recognize that long ago0:56:47 you don't know what's the shame of them0:56:51 if you have not seen the prophet in your0:56:53 life you don't know how he looked like0:56:55 so if someone come here and dream to you0:56:56 say i'm maybe a devil unless you know0:57:00 how the prophet0:57:01 and unfortunately did not have a uh a0:57:04 nice scalp sharing or drawing also we0:57:06 don't have a picture of the prophet so0:57:07 we don't know how he was looking back0:57:09 so except the sahaba0:57:14 nobody can be certain that the one came0:57:16 in his dream is the prophet0:57:18 it could be hopefully it is it's a good0:57:19 sign but nobody but i0:57:21 can't tell you a bunch of other dreams0:57:22 like for example i recently saw the0:57:24 hadith0:57:43 and you don't know the shape of muhammad0:57:45 he will come0:57:46 come with another picture it takes just0:57:48 a nice out of appearance because he0:57:50 knows how the arab appeared0:57:51 he will not come as a chinese he's too0:57:53 intelligent0:57:55 to intelligent or like like someone from0:57:57 nigeria0:57:58 zinji he will come as an average looking0:58:01 uh0:58:02 semitic looking man is he muhammad no0:58:05 it's not when do you know it's the0:58:06 prophet you don't0:58:14 shortness of knowledge will get you into0:58:16 your demise i'll give you another0:58:18 example there was a0:58:19 the americans are watching0:58:29 and he claims the reason for that is0:58:31 that a goddess imagine that0:58:33 touch him when he was 12 or 30 years old0:58:36 so there was a goddess really touching0:58:38 him people could imagine everything0:58:41 maybe he was touched with nothing it's0:58:43 just just an imagination in the mind0:58:45 and by training and yoga he could reduce0:58:47 his0:58:48 physiological activity going to the0:58:50 level i i don't believe that 70 years0:58:52 myself slightly speaking i think he may0:58:54 be lying0:58:55 but even if they watch him for months he0:58:57 wouldn't be surprised0:58:58 because we know bears hibernate for six0:59:00 months without any food and so on just0:59:02 the life functions would slow down0:59:04 and we know by yoga training you can0:59:05 even some yoga0:59:07 came to the level that again they can0:59:09 stop and control their heartbeat0:59:10 they can stop it for five minutes yeah0:59:13 wow0:59:14 yes one guy with enormous training by0:59:16 very harsh0:59:18 so this guy could really survive the0:59:19 american observation and the criminals0:59:21 for0:59:22 months without food and drink without0:59:23 any problem0:59:26 and he believes that i think he's not0:59:28 lying i think he's really firmly0:59:29 believing that the god is touching him0:59:30 and he's sitting in one place for 700:59:32 years0:59:33 meditating yeah yeah this is the0:59:36 worst person without food and drink i0:59:38 think he's like half dead0:59:40 he reduces his life functions okay0:59:42 that's the only way0:59:44 but if you look at his0:59:49 is very slim he looks 70 years old so he0:59:52 cannot control the physiological0:59:53 functions0:59:54 to the level that he doesn't age you0:59:56 could say why the goddess does not give0:59:57 you eternal you0:59:58 also said the goddess shows that he will1:00:00 come also with the whole kind of1:00:02 arguments1:00:02 but i mean if you're going to believe1:00:04 that he believes that1:00:06 all these are people believe all kinds1:00:07 of sort of things which are1:00:10 either having a satanic explanation or a1:00:12 divine explanation or an angelic1:00:14 explanation or just a physiological and1:00:16 then1:00:16 a psychological training explanation1:00:20 what other statute would you start with1:00:22 the same with linking militarism1:00:23 all these either either myths or1:00:26 publication or1:00:30 so back to the dreams it does not prove1:00:32 anything1:00:33 proofs must be based ultimately going to1:00:35 international1:00:36 information i think socials can be shown1:00:38 or impossible to be accepted from allah1:00:40 that's where prophet is and that's where1:00:42 the prophets extend1:00:43 that what they do nobody can do and1:00:45 definitely only the divine power can do1:00:47 it1:00:47 so there's people when they say that1:00:50 used to see the prophet telling him for1:00:52 every hadith that he used to write one1:00:56 don't get carried away with that and we1:00:58 have many people saying that1:01:01 he read the reading read the quran1:01:05 dreams and he said oh all you are using1:01:07 is perfect except there's two spots1:01:09 and things like that if you like it to1:01:11 take that on board i don't mind but1:01:13 this is all not evidence this could be1:01:16 your subconscious working could be1:01:18 all kinds of phenomena um1:01:51 like it was for example in our time we1:01:53 don't have muhammad sallam1:01:55 with us right now and why can't people1:01:58 use that as an1:01:59 excuse that um no they can't because the1:02:02 message is there is protected1:02:04 they have to put the effort to study it1:02:06 and those who are interested do put out1:02:08 for1:02:09 and condition a conclusion so1:02:12 that's not an executive okay so i've um1:02:15 some people have asked me1:02:17 that those people that live in you know1:02:19 just isolated islands1:02:21 and this don't worry about that i know1:02:23 this question this comes again again i1:02:24 don't know why1:02:25 the people are bugged with this question1:02:27 it seems to be it seems to be like an1:02:29 obsession that's what happens with the1:02:30 babies when they die early1:02:32 what happens with1:02:39 do you think you will be managing them1:02:41 better than allah just like you will1:02:43 manage that1:02:44 just get busy managing your own affairs1:02:46 if you get your offense out1:02:48 sorted out you will be fine but this is1:02:50 all i think this is all just1:02:52 either this question becomes being1:02:53 concerned what will happen with this is1:02:55 good to be concerned but it shows1:02:57 it is let's say sometimes the devil is1:03:00 trying to to get your mind and wear1:03:02 things which are not very productive1:03:04 if you know the principle the principle1:03:05 is very simple1:03:07 you will not perish until you have1:03:08 received the message you are convinced1:03:11 it's correct1:03:12 based on its evidences and you act in1:03:14 aborted1:03:15 not positive way with your free will1:03:17 there's no other response to otherwise1:03:18 whatever anyone telling you anything1:03:20 else1:03:25 whoever hears about me from the future1:03:27 of the book the jews and christians will1:03:29 be there1:03:30 and does not become a believer to help1:03:31 the hellfire1:03:33 somebody is just hearing whatever you1:03:35 just say there's a muhammad this is not1:03:36 healing that's what1:03:37 it says because the other is clearly1:03:40 whoever opposed the messenger1:03:42 after he received the guidance in an1:03:44 evident way by1:03:45 the body the only became apparent to him1:03:49 clear that one we will destroy him and1:03:52 cast him in the hell fire1:03:53 so this ayah explained this one so here1:03:56 of me a hearing which is sufficient to1:03:58 be an authority1:03:59 that's the hearing meant there so we1:04:01 have to understand this hadith in life1:04:03 of this ayah in this light of this1:04:04 hadith and put them all together1:04:08 this is some of this that's why the1:04:10 problem so if you have this fundamental1:04:12 principle1:04:13 nobody will perish unless he's do1:04:15 wealthy without any hope1:04:17 even to our extreme that's one hadith is1:04:19 almost like1:04:20 you're having one a very nasty1:04:22 palestinian1:04:24 and then he's confronted with hostile1:04:26 with all his sins1:04:27 and uh allah said1:04:31 okay that's the record any comment1:04:34 are you accusing the ages of of of1:04:38 of the they are not accusing anybody1:04:40 anything but the problem is that they1:04:42 are your angels1:04:43 from the side of the court i need1:04:45 witnesses from my side1:04:47 said i have witnesses so you know1:04:49 witness is acceptable but the judges is1:04:51 not supposed to witness in the same1:04:52 court1:04:53 and the other judge that is that kind of1:04:55 witness at the same time because they1:04:56 accept it1:04:58 say which kind of witness would i the1:04:59 holy see what is from my side1:05:02 from the defense side i want my own1:05:03 witness so okay what is that there's1:05:05 nobody there1:05:06 that's it say my body parts so then okay1:05:08 we let your body part speak freely1:05:11 so he's ordered to remain silent and his1:05:13 body part talk1:05:15 and the body part was this against them1:05:17 against him and after his order1:05:19 or his mouth permitted1:05:31 you could imagine really in a court and1:05:33 they're very nasty but it's not doing1:05:34 this job1:05:39 it doesn't help him because there are1:05:40 witnesses against him from his own body1:05:41 from his own1:05:42 and he cannot say they are lying because1:05:44 you know there are fights now but then1:05:46 i'm defending you say even if you are1:05:47 defending us we know we'll be1:05:53 but then he can also say that these body1:05:55 parts were created by allah so i need1:05:57 something that will not1:05:58 create it's not possible1:06:01 it's not possible because this is this1:06:02 is all what is there there's no way1:06:04 that's going for that1:06:05 he knows this will be a national1:06:06 impossible back to the question about1:06:08 the prophets uh the prophet when he1:06:10 prevented people from injecting1:06:12 this one and in being perishing because1:06:15 it doesn't have in there all these1:06:16 things will not say1:06:17 but the other one like for somebody1:06:18 shows he shows uh1:06:21 his uh his his sins the two cases1:06:24 he says sure they said1:06:27 and then he saw books going up to the1:06:30 horizon1:06:31 now not necessarily physically to1:06:33 authorize this and give it a boycott1:06:35 it's like a book which extends and1:06:36 extends and extends1:06:38 all full of mysteries and sins and so on1:06:42 mostly meiosis nothing major really but1:06:44 plenty but might think this1:06:46 is bigger nasty to listen smaller things1:06:49 but1:06:49 plenty and then he said1:06:53 is there anything there wrong is there1:06:55 any misrecording there1:06:56 he said no it's all correct i cannot1:06:58 deny anything this is a fact1:07:00 that's it we will not be treated1:07:02 unjustly today we have a good deed for1:07:04 you which you did not see here in this1:07:06 list1:07:07 we'll put under the paca a small card is1:07:09 taken1:07:10 and they say this1:07:29 because it's more weighty that's one but1:07:32 the other one1:07:33 is that one is involved also then he1:07:35 sees many sense1:07:36 allah tells the angels you give him will1:07:39 make a teasing for this1:07:40 chat this is a good one i want to give1:07:42 him some kind of mercy1:07:45 show him the minor ones and keep some1:07:47 major ones at the side1:07:48 so he's showing the book see anything i1:07:51 have said no no denial1:07:54 that's clearly1:07:57 how can anyone have the audacity because1:07:59 there's so many evidences that people1:08:00 need to1:08:01 do anything they will be they would be1:08:04 audacious people there will be all kinds1:08:06 of audacious people who1:08:07 kind of that's what doesn't1:08:13 really the capability of being arguing1:08:15 for your case every soul will argue that1:08:17 the moment will argue the face there1:08:19 will be a face where everyone now1:08:20 arguing to escape1:08:22 and gets all the outwards possible we'll1:08:23 get the audacity we need it we will give1:08:25 you the1:08:26 power to argue your case in first1:08:29 so after i said any objection any1:08:32 addition say1:08:34 i have no objection all that's true but1:08:36 uh1:08:38 there are things which i know that they1:08:40 should be there but they are not there1:08:42 what happened to them there are sins i1:08:45 know but they are not the list what1:08:46 happened to them1:08:47 he's afraid that he will be surprised1:08:49 say these1:08:50 you have done in secret i covered for1:08:52 you in dunya and i'm covering that with1:08:55 or another type the one who committed1:08:57 simba secretly and so on1:08:59 allah would bring like a veil nobody is1:09:01 witnessing say you remember that day1:09:03 this1:09:03 this this yes i remember and even he1:09:05 thinks he's finished i lost them1:09:07 no hope allah said i covered in dunya i1:09:09 did not scandalize you in dunya i'm not1:09:11 going to scandalize you today1:09:12 we're going to clean the slate nobody1:09:16 will do that for all eternity1:09:17 left the valve let him go so1:09:20 this is a court where you not only get1:09:22 justice you get the maximum1:09:24 grace you can you can imagine an1:09:26 imaginable one and you know1:09:28 so that just so knowing that meaning the1:09:30 question about what happened to those in1:09:32 amazon the babies and the mentally1:09:34 even what had he said even the1:09:36 blind man would say okay1:09:37 i was blind i did not have enough senses1:09:40 to judge them1:09:42 even a blind mask because a blind man1:09:45 actually has quite a normal1:09:46 good access to the reality has ears has1:09:49 access to the1:09:50 height and resources yeah that's1:09:53 okay we'll give you another piece today1:09:55 what about the sahabas who1:09:57 have been told that they it's been1:09:59 awaited that they have1:10:01 amazing uh powers for example1:10:04 he with his hand he was able to shape1:10:06 the mountain1:10:08 no this is all the truth this is many of1:10:10 these toys in a lot of1:10:11 stuff yeah some sahabas1:10:15 this is uh this is we are going out with1:10:17 another issue maybe we will do it1:10:18 another day in modi1:10:19 about the americans and the so-called1:10:21 are they imagine1:10:22 are they the scholars have the following1:10:24 uh1:10:26 they call they call this it's all called1:10:29 generally science1:10:30 because they indicate they are science1:10:32 foreign but if they are for a prophet1:10:34 the technical term but1:10:36 used by by uh by the uh1:10:39 scholars of uh1:10:48 is unable so this is disabling emojis1:10:52 something will disable you from counter1:10:55 arguing that's not meaningful1:10:58 which is so that you1:11:01 admit you can't have any counter1:11:03 argument to it so it's1:11:04 it's to its verification power let me1:11:06 give an example1:11:08 and if it is happening to a non-profit1:11:12 what is it has to be in connection with1:11:13 the prophet prophet would claim if it's1:11:15 not with the prophetically it's not a1:11:16 much it could be even a satanic1:11:18 phenomena very important1:11:21 obviously phenomena will never leave1:11:24 come to the level of magister1:11:26 that's that's just that's the1:11:27 understanding but if that even if they1:11:30 come to them1:11:31 the moment the guy claims to be a1:11:33 prophet he will be deployed from that1:11:34 because allah will not permit1:11:36 that that what he reserved to prove the1:11:38 prophet of his prophets will be1:11:39 undermined by1:11:40 so maybe a magician could do a marriage1:11:43 well he's a magician1:11:44 so yeah i'm doing it by much you don't1:11:45 say i'm a prophet now he sees to have1:11:47 this power automatically1:11:49 by interference but let us see an1:11:51 example of emergency1:11:53 one classical one the1:11:56 the revival of by isa so isa comes late1:12:01 the sister of nothing by her name1:12:04 anyway or him my elizabeth1:12:08 is sick come quickly healing him my1:12:10 master1:12:11 ravi my teacher but he's delayed along1:12:15 the way because he needed to make i1:12:16 think1:12:17 a roundabout way because there's a1:12:19 threat of a king or whatever i don't1:12:20 remember the story1:12:21 anyway he comes late by ten days aladdin1:12:24 is dead1:12:25 and they buried him they at the time1:12:27 they buried him they dug holes in the1:12:28 mountains and they have a very big rock1:12:30 like a rolling rock and they closed that1:12:32 and they put you in like a shelf1:12:35 so he was dead for 10 days now you know1:12:38 palestine1:12:39 the heat and it was he was going toward1:12:41 the1:12:42 uh bethel mark this was jerusalem for1:12:45 for the passover1:12:46 festivities yeah and that's usually in1:12:51 nissan which is almost april or march it1:12:53 goes back and forth because of the lunar1:12:55 cycles and so on but it's around that so1:12:57 it's in the springtime1:12:58 springtime in palestine is quite nicely1:13:01 hot not very hot but it's quite you know1:13:02 so1:13:05 so the man being feasted over the1:13:07 bacteria 10 days and1:13:08 as you can imagine what's happening so1:13:11 he comes here1:13:12 not really childhood if you have been1:13:15 late if you have1:13:16 came early you would have healed him now1:13:18 he's dead and she's weaving1:13:19 and he also himself he's a start weeping1:13:23 and we've been very heavily so that his1:13:25 his chest sounds like a horse1:13:27 really deep weeping like you know1:13:30 there's a sound of the horse when the1:13:32 horse is after1:13:33 very deep weeping and i said where did1:13:36 you bury him said he will bend him there1:13:38 well if you want to do this it's already1:13:39 behind1:13:40 close your hand there's no way anyone1:13:41 can go there because it's 10 years it1:13:43 must be stinking like hell1:13:46 so they roll the rock and the stench1:13:49 comes out you don't need to1:13:51 no need to tell you how it will be and1:13:53 they started1:13:54 the gate and see and other come out1:13:57 and then another come alive the one who1:14:00 was already disintegrating as thinking1:14:02 revert into non-stinking and living1:14:05 state1:14:05 get up get out and he told him take him1:14:08 take his1:14:09 death shroud wash him and give him1:14:12 new lord is a living being1:14:15 so reinstating life in1:14:19 a dead body which was quite1:14:22 in a good stage of this thing you know1:14:25 if you leave meat outside in 10 days it1:14:27 will1:14:28 stick like head so it's integrating1:14:30 considerably there's no way to do it by1:14:32 any physical need1:14:33 there's no physical think i would1:14:35 entropy wise because the level1:14:37 of this organization achieved by this1:14:39 integration1:14:40 is such a way that you i think all the1:14:42 power of the universe1:14:43 put together will not be able to reverse1:14:45 that in tropic that the dissipation of1:14:47 entropy which has happened there1:14:49 is terrible dynamically impossible1:14:50 physically stand by divine power1:14:54 foreign makes you feel disabled1:14:58 of confronting the argument except it1:15:00 must be a power which is beyond the1:15:02 capabilities of the universe it does not1:15:04 fit through the system of the universe1:15:05 with the tools at that time1:15:11 available to the people at that time1:15:17 and not even at our time1:15:22 because even if someone can do it that1:15:23 today with tools which are not there so1:15:26 if you transport them back then it's not1:15:27 the same type1:15:28 not the same circumstances so it's1:15:30 impossible for all identities1:15:32 taking the same circumstances even if1:15:34 you have the create the same situation1:15:35 now in african village it will not be1:15:37 possible you may be able to do it maybe1:15:39 sophisticate us with that but we don't1:15:40 do it yet i'll be down the road and the1:15:42 deal maybe you're able to do it but not1:15:44 now1:15:45 so it's with ways and procedures who you1:15:48 know how to do whatever will not be done1:15:50 in a second just by calling someone out1:15:51 must be very complicated1:15:53 sophisticated if possible i don't think1:15:54 it will be ever possible1:15:56 in this universe whatsoever1:15:59 now karama is similar or something like1:16:01 that1:16:03 but for someone who is a follower of the1:16:04 prophet on virtue of him being a1:16:06 follower of the prophet1:16:07 a committed follower of it but all of1:16:10 them in1:16:11 the quranic times would be ayah will be1:16:13 sign because it's a sign for allah1:16:15 existence and his1:16:16 interference or his breaking or1:16:19 overriding1:16:20 some people can break international laws1:16:22 overriding russia or whatever you want1:16:24 to call it1:16:25 it is a technical term of no great1:16:27 relevance it's1:16:29 you will have something which is1:16:32 physically not possible1:16:34 but the only one which is really1:16:36 counters your importance leave the quran1:16:38 at the side because the quran would be a1:16:39 matter of judgment say this is the holy1:16:40 man1:16:41 he's a pious man it must be akarama we1:16:43 don't know1:16:44 but the irony here is with the head of1:16:46 the prophet who have declared his1:16:47 prophethood1:16:49 it is done by necessity and evidence for1:16:52 him because1:16:54 first of all that it happened meaning1:16:55 there is a power it's really breaking1:16:58 the1:16:59 physical law or overriding the physical1:17:01 law temporarily1:17:02 or enacting another law which is1:17:05 different than the physical law whatever1:17:06 it is1:17:07 you have an explanation you would like1:17:08 all that is not of great relevance to1:17:10 the fact1:17:11 the fact it said with no way anybody1:17:13 else using the system of the universe1:17:15 will be able1:17:16 to do the same meaning there is a force1:17:18 behind the universe doing it1:17:20 now if someone claims he's being sent by1:17:22 this force1:17:23 and this forces obviously must be a1:17:25 being which has knowledge and has1:17:27 power more because otherwise he would1:17:29 not do it now1:17:30 it must be a being which you can call1:17:32 the personal being who have will1:17:34 have power have choice otherwise having1:17:37 served by a mechanism it would happen1:17:40 according to the mechanism not according1:17:41 to this man coming at the grave1:17:43 so at this moment specifically yeah so1:17:45 it must be someone who1:17:47 knows what's going on and knows his1:17:49 messenger needs1:17:51 he's america at this moment and perform1:17:53 the market so a being which knows1:17:56 that's free will and has power to do it1:18:00 that he does that on someone claiming to1:18:02 be sent by him1:18:04 must be by necessity approving his his1:18:07 claim of being sent1:18:09 because otherwise it's impossible to1:18:13 prove the proof is there by the act1:18:16 itself so1:18:17 so to to to make the proof complete1:18:19 allah has done obliged because he sent1:18:21 the message to1:18:23 to establish authority and evidence1:18:25 against everyone your1:18:26 qiyamah he's obliged that if someone1:18:28 claims to be a messenger even if he1:18:29 performed before that1:18:31 what you call miracle with whatever kind1:18:32 of1:18:35 tricks which is not really america but1:18:37 fooling the people i1:18:39 or whatever kind of of um of uh1:18:43 satanic support which will not be1:18:44 reached that level because the satan1:18:46 will not have these powers1:18:47 i said in the case the moment he claims1:18:49 he will fail to perform it1:18:52 or if he does something like maybe1:18:54 without claiming to be a messenger1:18:56 uh that he's a that claims to be that1:18:58 he's a1:18:59 skilled magician then another magician1:19:01 will come and undermine his magic1:19:02 that's happens often that magician1:19:04 challenge each other and defeat each1:19:05 other1:19:06 so it is defeatable but the miracle is1:19:08 having these two aspects1:19:09 it is clearly indicating that the divine1:19:11 has interfered in favor of the one who1:19:13 claimed to be a prophet1:19:14 and no one claiming a prophet will bring1:19:17 anything civil1:19:18 he will fail and that's the reason the1:19:20 challenge between musa and and1:19:22 was clear and and and the magician of1:19:25 heroin is that1:19:25 that is clearly that that the magician1:19:29 immediately recognized this is not a tie1:19:30 because what they did is1:19:32 either satanically initiated or tricks1:19:35 mechanical tricks1:19:36 but immediately they saw because they1:19:38 are specialists in that area1:19:39 and they know the technology of the of1:19:41 their age by either satanic1:19:44 related to spirits and so on or the1:19:46 physical or the physical1:19:48 they know immediately this is a real1:19:50 snake real snake1:19:52 not appearing like a snail because it's1:19:55 about there1:19:57 appear to him as if they are moving they1:19:58 are not moving it's just dead sticks1:20:00 and and ropes and so on but they1:20:02 appeared to him even him himself1:20:04 would appear to him but when they saw1:20:06 that they knew this is not apparent1:20:08 this is the real snake and they even1:20:10 consumed their their sticks and so on1:20:12 destroyed them could1:20:13 swallow them and annihilated them there1:20:15 was no doubt about that that's1:20:16 immediately they1:20:17 went into into suit for on speculating1:20:21 when the people1:20:22 dumb dumbness and stupidity said oh he's1:20:24 the he's the1:20:25 master magician no wonder that he's1:20:26 defeating you1:20:29 relying on the stupidity of the people1:20:31 or hoping to rely because some people1:20:33 became believable and joined musa anyway1:20:35 because of the power of this so that's1:20:38 that's one uh one aspect of miracle that1:20:40 it defeats any challenge1:20:42 and no one claiming profits that will be1:20:44 able to perform so1:20:45 all these magicians and all these liars1:20:47 in history1:20:48 they never brought anything which1:20:51 manifestly and clearly beyond the1:20:54 capability of any universal power1:20:56 like reviving a dead even from the case1:21:00 of kalama like for example this1:21:01 narration that some sahabi1:21:03 their animals died and they had1:21:05 subjugated the animal was revived1:21:08 etc we have these things happening we1:21:10 have also the1:21:11 a very good uh narration about1:21:14 uh who has been thrown in fire1:21:18 by a sovereignty in yemen and this is1:21:21 this is1:21:21 good and then nothing happened to him1:21:24 except the1:21:25 ropes and so on and then1:21:29 until i see someone who has been granted1:21:32 such a miracle1:21:33 like the one granted to riley and this1:21:35 is also beyond any1:21:37 power in the universe at that technology1:21:40 of that time1:21:41 even now technology there's no way to1:21:43 put someone in the fire1:21:44 even if you blow strong air around them1:21:46 to shield them there's not enough1:21:48 technology there to shield them1:21:50 it's conceivable that you can blow such1:21:51 a strong air around empathy like in a1:21:54 bubble which will take them but most1:21:55 likely to be so strong that will be1:21:56 taken into parts anyway1:21:58 so we get him like pieces of meat after1:22:00 that which is not a very good1:22:01 way of saving someone from fire by1:22:04 disintegrating1:22:05 in pieces but it's conceivable now1:22:06 they're very big1:22:09 turbine type of air blower and so on1:22:11 which could shield you with such an air1:22:12 flow1:22:13 that the fire does not come in but i1:22:15 think you inside will be also1:22:17 cut into pieces like as if you were a1:22:19 butcher table or something like that1:22:21 so that's what you can achieve with1:22:23 physics and technology1:22:24 was done forever ibrahim coming out1:22:27 perfect in complete safety the same with1:22:29 the muslims1:22:29 he was not a prophet and didn't ask for1:22:32 it it happened1:22:33 but in the case of prophet it may happen1:22:35 either by him asking for it1:22:36 or challenging for it or sometimes1:22:38 without challenge1:22:40 just the occasion comes and the people1:22:42 need it for example like1:22:43 he's turning water into wine in the1:22:46 wedding where they run out all of our1:22:47 salaam1:22:48 giving the people many occasions to1:22:50 drink1:22:53 from a small amount of water maybe less1:22:55 than a month1:22:56 a whole army of several hundred men1:22:58 drunk1:22:59 performed their ablution and even a bit1:23:02 of it1:23:02 a man would fill the big pot and win1:23:05 because he has1:23:06 uh our dream and had a full body wash1:23:10 all of the tank from the small amount of1:23:13 that1:23:13 of water which is a small like you know1:23:16 this is used by1:23:17 the small gels don't know the small1:23:19 things which1:23:20 they like like1:23:24 a small sack with water that's more1:23:27 leather1:23:28 small leather or not the big one smaller1:23:30 one the personal one they have1:23:31 they have the first one another big one1:23:33 which hang with the camera and the1:23:34 person around which you can angle your1:23:36 shoulder1:23:36 from that small one of the processor he1:23:38 can give the whole army1:23:40 to drink and to make a pollution and so1:23:42 on it's not only one occasion many other1:23:44 occasions1:23:46 increasing water because they need that1:23:48 and many occasions increased food and so1:23:50 on1:23:51 yeah okay question the the hadith i1:23:53 don't know if it's authentic and if it1:23:55 is1:23:55 uh one resourcefulness enough for the1:23:57 people of medina to1:23:58 inject one type of dates into another1:24:00 tree so they can have a mixture of both1:24:03 but then there's also that ear there it1:24:05 wasn't a great uh1:24:06 ear because they had less states and the1:24:09 brazos was sort of prevented them but1:24:10 then he said he's a human he makes me1:24:11 say no no he did not prevent them this1:24:13 is the very important1:24:14 comment is that what's the limitation of1:24:16 prophetic infallibility and so on1:24:18 what he said he commented say i don't1:24:19 think this this is important to do1:24:22 i don't think it's it is important it's1:24:24 the various foundation the hadith if you1:24:26 take all of them we have them in the1:24:27 book1:24:27 by the way the whole generations and1:24:30 once i said i guess it is1:24:31 it's not efficient it has no no no no1:24:34 no no significance and they say i don't1:24:38 think it would have any effect if they1:24:39 leave it1:24:40 because many other national plants and1:24:43 so on different1:24:44 the the wind and the bees will fertilize1:24:48 them and so on1:24:49 and that year they have a considerably1:24:51 less1:24:52 less less1:24:57 products just harvest because for the1:24:59 pantries1:25:00 pump these are the real domesticated1:25:02 plants and they have1:25:04 they have grown the amount they give in1:25:06 domesticated state are much1:25:08 huger than in in wilderness they need1:25:10 only few fruits and the1:25:12 species will persist but human beings1:25:15 develop them so that they produce food1:25:17 for the human consumption1:25:18 and for that you have to do the1:25:19 fertilization by hand taken from the1:25:21 bull1:25:22 pantry and giving the female planting1:25:25 and without that you will not get enough1:25:27 fertilization enough fruits1:25:29 so that here they'll end us and say you1:25:31 know better you will dunya if you know1:25:32 that fertilization is effective then you1:25:34 know it1:25:35 it's a fact of dummy and it's not a1:25:36 matter of why but if i tell you this1:25:38 from allah or commandments1:25:39 and this is from allah this is the fact1:25:40 which is reliable my guess is1:25:44 so it shows where is the limitation of1:25:45 that because it never sits from allah1:25:47 or it is a fact or a civilization he1:25:49 said i don't think it's effective1:25:51 it may work it may not work it's just a1:25:54 guesswork just work on the popping of1:25:55 the seeds1:25:56 and another hadith that's a weak1:25:58 narration it says i am i'm not a farmer1:26:00 i have no farming experience1:26:03 go ahead and fertilize or inseminate1:26:06 if that's what works for you there's1:26:08 just two1:26:10 so the comments of this type about1:26:12 thinking how the universe is1:26:14 are usually the currents of anybody else1:26:16 and this is also at the point where1:26:18 mostly for muslims or for non-muslims1:26:20 listening to us would not be1:26:22 really affected by that but many muslim1:26:23 talk about support never1:26:25 prophetic medicine uh most of that you1:26:28 have to be very cautious1:26:30 because really not them now it is arab1:26:32 medicine and arab herbal1:26:34 knowledge accumulated over centuries and1:26:37 because those are1:26:38 tend to have quite a number of1:26:39 sicknesses including headaches and so on1:26:42 uh i shall use to ask the veterans what1:26:44 kind of recipes they have1:26:45 and apply to him and they think it's1:26:48 terrible it's not you know it's not1:26:49 about1:26:50 being applied to him like any human1:26:51 beings taking the medicine of his time1:26:53 like for medicine of his time what one1:26:55 of the major medicine was1:26:57 called hijab that's coming and letting1:26:59 blood which is very efficient a matter1:27:01 of1:27:02 relieving high high blood pressure and1:27:03 leaving headache as well no1:27:05 that's one he did because he suffered1:27:07 from headaches or hijab with relief and1:27:09 we know why it's relief it reduces the1:27:11 pressure immediately1:27:12 and the pressure type headache could be1:27:14 eased by this1:27:15 also they use cauterization which is by1:27:17 fire and said criticization may be1:27:19 efficient said here but i don't like1:27:20 fertilization1:27:21 i don't like being quaterized by fire i1:27:23 was very painful1:27:24 i didn't like that and then1:27:28 honey which is non-university with very1:27:31 healing for many diseases so1:27:33 if there's any healing which is proven1:27:35 very well is either1:27:36 drinking a drink of honey or having1:27:39 fertilization or having cupping1:27:41 pyjama and i don't like i mean there's1:27:44 other things but in this habit1:27:45 i don't like1:27:48 branding quarterization but we know1:27:51 branding is very efficient many diseases1:27:53 especially skin diseases1:27:54 like many like timbers and so on or1:27:57 these1:27:58 these virus diseases which you have a1:28:00 master dimple or a muscle uh1:28:02 growth and then babies all over the body1:28:06 so if you find the master and burn it it1:28:08 will go1:28:09 i did myself for various people one of1:28:11 my cousins had1:28:12 even in his mouth he had was that and1:28:14 they guessed the one in his foot was the1:28:16 biggest1:28:16 father abandoned was gone all of them1:28:19 went in a few days1:28:20 so criticalization is very it's very1:28:22 painful but it's efficient you cannot1:28:23 say it's not a healing just this is my1:28:25 experience of the people1:28:26 what's really prophetic they say that's1:28:28 the the the1:28:30 the black seed is containing cure for1:28:33 all diseases except that1:28:35 that's that's that's a statement which1:28:37 is of universality which indicates1:28:39 coming from1:28:40 and you know there modernization has1:28:42 things which boost our immune system1:28:44 enormously1:28:45 so it is it will cure most of disease in1:28:47 that sense1:28:48 and other things like that which their1:28:51 formulation indicate is coming from why1:28:54 but other things just experience of the1:28:56 arabs so if you hear about1:28:57 prophetic medicine just put a big two1:28:59 big question marks1:29:01 but most people are not critical and1:29:02 anything coming from from the prophet is1:29:04 having like a feeling of barakah and so1:29:06 on and they just hang on it1:29:08 but it's not a rational and scholarly1:29:10 will following things unfortunately1:29:12 yeah we would love to have that but not1:29:14 things you love are always the correct1:29:16 things1:29:17 so the reality is no prophetic medicine1:29:18 except with a few things1:29:20 pyjama is efficient yes we know what1:29:22 it's done even1:29:24 and it's known that if you if you give1:29:26 blood donation regularly you will help1:29:28 a certain improvement in in the liver1:29:30 function another function because you1:29:32 encourage them to produce blood and1:29:34 replication it is he1:29:35 it's healthy for you to give donation1:29:37 regularly and so on and that is not a1:29:39 donation but letting blood1:29:40 to ease the pressure especially in in1:29:42 emergency when the1:29:44 high pressure type headache is is is1:29:46 heavy1:29:49 lifting the blood from the neck of the1:29:50 shoulder will ease the pressure1:29:55 and will have an effect this is a1:29:56 miracle fact not before islam and after1:29:58 so it's not1:29:59 about providing medicine arab medicine1:30:01 maybe even an indian or1:30:02 chinese medicine but that's that's it1:30:06 and i guess if they knew i could1:30:07 function anywhere time he would have1:30:09 tried it also1:30:10 no problem because he tried almost1:30:11 everybody can make1:30:13 anything without any problem because1:30:15 this is is availability of1:30:18 of science and knowledge of the people1:30:22 which will be beneficial but if it is1:30:23 effective1:30:24 some of it is quite effective experience1:30:28 so the the caller yeah the the1:30:32 that's what the people1:30:36 maybe we should next time should discuss1:30:39 the various types of miracles1:30:42 and uh because we have no really the1:30:44 problem with militants is that they1:30:46 haven't historically1:30:48 and we have no verification of them most1:30:50 of them nowadays1:30:52 except for muhammad al-salam1:30:55 i know many of the listeners who are not1:30:57 muslims who are not aware about that but1:30:58 we will bring1:31:00 sufficient information which shows that1:31:03 there are sufficient many americans1:31:04 which are reported by tawato which1:31:06 happened1:31:07 they can deny that if they wish maybe1:31:09 which will not be rational1:31:10 because the reports are very much very1:31:12 correlating and very strong but we have1:31:14 reports about future events and the1:31:17 recalls are on1:31:18 uh on on record and their writing spread1:31:21 in hundreds of thousands and hundreds of1:31:23 other books1:31:24 long before the events have materialized1:31:27 and the events have some of them some1:31:30 still to materialize some1:31:31 is showing a indication about science1:31:34 that they are about to materialize1:31:35 we'll mention some of these and these1:31:37 are the best of absolute type there's no1:31:39 way1:31:40 we have also in the old testament quite1:31:41 a number of prophecies like that which1:31:44 pathologize later1:31:45 and this can be proven to be the1:31:47 prophecy it's really older than the1:31:49 the fact like for example it is in the1:31:52 old testament1:31:52 in the in the greek version the1:31:54 septuagint we know this important is1:31:56 250 years before christ so anything1:31:58 happening after that1:31:59 except for it is well conserved and well1:32:02 known1:32:02 since then that will prove that there's1:32:06 some divine origin for1:32:07 prophecies in the old testament and a1:32:09 few like that also so it's not that1:32:13 void of these things but they are very1:32:15 difficult to come by by1:32:16 and the metaphoric language is more uh1:32:20 common in the older new and new1:32:21 testament than in quran1:32:24 which makes difficult to assert in1:32:26 certain things and makes multiple1:32:27 interpretation uh1:32:30 quite quite a headache but in that case1:32:32 the things we should bring so that will1:32:34 do that1:32:35 and then we may be going to what is1:32:38 the the case of what had the limitation1:32:40 of of1:32:41 infallibility and was fallibility and1:32:43 was where he is a1:32:45 example or not an example etc in1:32:47 moderative which because we have1:32:48 evidence is now from the quran movies1:32:51 not only for reason like the basic one1:32:54 but have1:32:54 extra more information so that has to be1:32:57 disabled1:33:00 thanks