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MUSLIM VS EX-MUSLIM | MOHAMMED HIJAB (2017-08-15) ​

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A debate between a Muslim and an Ex-Muslim

Summary of MUSLIM VS EX-MUSLIM | MOHAMMED HIJAB ​

*This summary is AI generated - there may be inaccuracies.

00:00:00 - 00:30:00 ​

discusses the differences between Muslims and ex-Muslims, and how they can use deductive reasoning to debate the existence of God. also argues that hyperbole and overt expressions of religious belief can be harmful to religious harmony.

00:00:00 The Muslim mothers people are said to have a lot of power, but this power comes with a price. They can bully others, and those who don't agree with their religion may end up paying the price. also discusses the idea of a judgment day, and how Muslims will be judged based on their actions.

  • 00:05:00 This Muslim and ex-Muslim discussion addresses the reasons why one becomes a Muslim and why one might leave Islam. The Muslim argues that there is a coherent explanation for the existence of the universe, and that this explanation comes from the belief in one singular, all-powerful entity, Allah. The ex-Muslim argues that there are no good reasons to remain Muslim, and that one can be intellectually honest and accept the existence of the universe without needing to rely on faith. The Muslim argues that starting from a position of belief is the simplest thing to do, and that both parties can begin from there.
  • 00:10:00 investigates the idea that everything in existence - including universes - depends on something else. It goes on to explore the concept of universality, and argues that if this is true, then evil does not exist.
  • *00:15:00 Discusses the idea that anything is limited, and that this includes the universe. It then goes on to discuss the concept of infinity, and how it is not a number. argues that if something is infinite, it cannot be created or destroyed. This would mean that the universe is not limited, and would thus be infinite.
  • 00:20:00 "Muslim vs. Ex-Muslim" discusses the differences between Muslims and ex-Muslims, and shows how deductive logic works. It argues that Muslims cannot be justified in their beliefs by inductive logic - that is, logic which starts with what is known and builds upon it - because the existence of the universe depends on it.
  • 00:25:00 , a Muslim debates an ex-Muslim about the existence of God. The ex-Muslim argues that there are three options - that the universe is dependent on oneself, that the universe is independent, or that occasional vibration is all that exists. The Muslim argues that, even if this were true, it would not be sufficient to prove the existence of God.
  • *00:30:00 Discusses how hyperbole and overt expressions of religious belief can be harmful to religious harmony. He argues that deductive reasoning should be used with premises that are more accepting of other people's beliefs. then talks about how Muslims and ex- Muslims can coexist peacefully, and asks a bro how he is doing.

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0:00:00 the Muslim mothers people how big of a
0:00:05 family living initiative is that people
0:00:07 don't hate them child again so what
0:00:11 power do they in this country they
0:00:13 shouldn't have a lot of power by just
0:00:15 not the weight of the law and the
0:00:17 general survive here within their
0:00:19 community friendly have a hell of a
0:00:21 little power and rush is anyone anywhere
0:00:22 yeah accepted but what I would say is
0:00:25 that you know no I can go from there
0:00:27 you'll notice his son begins believe in
0:00:29 and not have a name in in Genesis 922 oh
0:00:38 yeah to do that what not something up I
0:00:41 will say that while we fail I will
0:00:44 hopefully a plea to the people are
0:00:46 watching for yeah people like my money
0:00:48 it's honestly the best thing
0:00:51 to do with someone estate yes is to be
0:00:57 planted and our beautiful suburban about
0:01:00 yourself i okay what / - here if they
0:01:03 don't want to do it in this case
0:01:05 beautiful but do not see that this is to
0:01:11 be some extra either hatred or extra
0:01:13 need to change your conveyor and the
0:01:18 general car guy you get that here
0:01:19 because what it is you see this crater
0:01:21 yes and what you've done I've not gonna
0:01:24 lie to you break it seen as one of the
0:01:26 worst thing you can do
0:01:28 let me tell you something that maybe
0:01:29 someone about when you say that is one
0:01:31 of the worst things you can do that's
0:01:32 just an example of how bullying this
0:01:35 religion is and how it forces people let
0:01:37 me go find it let me do something right
0:01:39 basil who will know this yeah
0:01:43 some people after question and it's a
0:01:46 fun place if you're born from the family
0:01:48 you have an advantage if you look at the
0:01:52 theological perspective if it means that
0:01:54 only it is our machinery yet if Thomas
0:01:57 true and you're born to lose the family
0:01:59 becomes very contem I'm very very
0:02:02 unforgiving yet so they think why would
0:02:05 somebody in the starting line up already
0:02:08 yes I win decides to go to the back I
0:02:11 try all from a much more less abundance
0:02:14 of is exactly the reason is because I'm
0:02:16 intellectually honest and I look at the
0:02:18 arguments why it's our mystery and
0:02:20 there's no garage anonymity no good
0:02:22 reason to believe in so much work I have
0:02:27 aa sole person for that no one's going
0:02:29 to say in the sponsorship okay you know
0:02:31 I'm in a slump phase 988 and this was
0:02:34 also quickie version of dionysis by
0:02:37 Jessica and nothing new in the general
0:02:40 matter there no person like you know you
0:02:42 can say eight is any money I am mayor
0:02:45 design it is Christian or whatever
0:02:48 we know the firaon in 448 accessorize a
0:02:54 short of being welcomed Iraqi desert see
0:02:55 God's Allah forgive that person
0:02:58 who as I said with him because it harder
0:03:01 when you forgive whoever else whereby
0:03:04 healthy one again so ship or deleted he
0:03:07 died upon it then we'll including the
0:03:09 idea that you should be in eternal
0:03:11 Hellfire yeah however people realize
0:03:14 there's been no support section to the
0:03:15 schools yeah which is mentioned in
0:03:17 chapter 17 verse 15 where lot of our
0:03:20 colleges are putting a mod if we have to
0:03:22 have our whole to the sway of people
0:03:24 were to be sent in all this in the field
0:03:27 of business and all over the north of
0:03:29 may have made that was America if you
0:03:32 are look at the hot rock yeah people of
0:03:37 misogyny go back anyways all of these
0:03:41 words indicate to us if someone for
0:03:43 example type in ACS yeah well you didn't
0:03:46 know impactful some believe the Bible go
0:03:48 or he is not a Christian you've never
0:03:49 heard of it um never look like yeah we
0:03:52 don't see that person is going to know
0:03:53 that person to Brooks inhibit at work is
0:03:56 then you be dodging erection analysis
0:03:58 what will happen according to the
0:04:00 original plan
0:04:01 in fact and there's a high be funded you
0:04:04 will be proud to defend early on the day
0:04:05 of judgment because up what will you
0:04:08 judgment be based on God's will give
0:04:10 them a crucified Taylor I'm saying is
0:04:13 know nothing about because you don't
0:04:15 know what God wanted in the you yes but
0:04:19 he could have been a rapist and murderer
0:04:20 few a charitable person yes so that
0:04:23 really matters as far as I'm gay right
0:04:24 so what does doesn't always sort of you
0:04:26 is basically according to that logic you
0:04:29 win there's some heavy surveying
0:04:30 equipment like in terms of jumpers or
0:04:32 higher and he does it by having trusting
0:04:34 God obvious cuddles and anyway the point
0:04:36 being that Dobies independence house
0:04:40 so one thing is and in the movement
0:04:42 where the where their assumption was
0:04:44 that Muslim power had for born advantage
0:04:46 because they are born into a family
0:04:48 actually the truth is that you could
0:04:52 have more of a problem as a Muslim
0:04:56 warning and with your family
0:04:58 could you very close to the money that
0:04:59 if you are an atheist
0:05:01 if either great is around a sea of
0:05:03 marijuana okay but the thing is I don't
0:05:05 really care because the price is yeah I
0:05:07 would often only clear before it is true
0:05:09 whereas are not very unlikely to be
0:05:12 Juliet
0:05:12 there is no kids because what you're
0:05:14 doing is send me with the Hellfire for
0:05:16 being a situation where I should have
0:05:17 respected that one communitas one side
0:05:19 but guess what what we want to say that
0:05:24 I'm not ready I'm but you're trying to
0:05:27 make me think that there is a bigger
0:05:29 reason for me to not leave Islam because
0:05:32 this is the biggest one suppose that I
0:05:33 just want I'm telling you that first
0:05:35 established that is true first and I
0:05:37 will agree with your establish this
0:05:39 truth there's no good reason for me to
0:05:40 live is also fiction opposite there is
0:05:43 waffles on but I want to show you that
0:05:46 this was a misconception that people
0:05:47 have other news nothing or more missing
0:05:50 so really directed you over those have
0:05:52 something like yes relevant is relevant
0:05:54 now in our school because
0:05:59 now I just inform you of percent yeah
0:06:00 why do you look like
0:06:02 I left a sound because when I was
0:06:04 younger I used to be a Muslim like you
0:06:05 got amorphousness back yet to pray as if
0:06:07 you wouldn't agree I was grateful
0:06:09 ex-wife you love reading books for
0:06:11 everyone yes I found out about a lot of
0:06:13 other ways of looking at the world which
0:06:14 were very different from the Sun and
0:06:15 definitely contradicted some place came
0:06:17 into my head yeah maybe so important
0:06:19 severe don't have enough work born it's
0:06:21 like my first four three two distinct
0:06:22 industry so I said you know what I could
0:06:25 find out lots of different things about
0:06:26 things but I am I ever going to notice
0:06:27 it too and less intellectually honest
0:06:29 and being intellectually honest means I
0:06:31 will accept the things I think I know
0:06:33 the things I think when I could you
0:06:35 possibly find out and the things I think
0:06:37 I don't know a person register again how
0:06:41 to be an imprecatory I want to know
0:06:42 where you're from India how long did you
0:06:45 know it is like you said that the very
0:06:48 now I'll find us a like epistemological
0:06:51 framework of the same however I knew you
0:06:55 realize it because of it to the slammer
0:06:57 so what all the things that you realize
0:06:59 for example I did innovation there's
0:07:01 another religion which seems to have a
0:07:02 pod this is a different book from from
0:07:04 this angle one how do I know which is
0:07:06 the true good I always a pushing that's
0:07:08 a good Christian girl I like the
0:07:10 Christian in the face of it's a lot of
0:07:11 our commercial oppression player these
0:07:13 are to be how do you know why am i he
0:07:16 asked me to open like open the question
0:07:17 here why my mom was the rest of a person
0:07:20 under video I said to him the reason why
0:07:23 I am a Muslim first and foremost because
0:07:26 number one I believe that the most
0:07:29 coherent explanation why we are here and
0:07:32 oppression of the universe is there was
0:07:34 one singular entity that created the
0:07:36 universe and that when you should
0:07:38 worship therefore heaven that rather
0:07:40 than healthy from because that was the
0:07:41 Christian contained I knew we wanted to
0:07:43 thank you very much answered this washes
0:07:45 you might actually when I looked at when
0:07:51 I looked at other religions like for
0:07:53 example if you look at the six or seven
0:07:54 were major world religion can my
0:07:57 creation I'm sure I'm sure you'll agree
0:07:59 with me is that week when it comes to
0:08:01 uncompromising will appears again salami
0:08:04 the most strict so for example the
0:08:06 Christian faith there are no tricks what
0:08:08 to do it true no slimy like number my
0:08:11 premise was but I believe that the most
0:08:13 coherent explanation who universe being
0:08:18 in existence when maybe in may not be
0:08:20 maintainable
0:08:21 was that there was one singular entity
0:08:24 which I call let's say Allah God where
0:08:27 we won :
0:08:28 and then this entropy is brought right
0:08:31 to the universe failure yes
0:08:34 yeah I conceive good reasons to think in
0:08:35 that because I used to think that and
0:08:37 then when I realized that there was
0:08:38 actually physical explanation for pretty
0:08:40 much everything that we normally hold
0:08:42 but in position both unnecessary
0:08:45 dependency to make up amiable right so
0:08:47 like you know from becoming infected
0:08:50 as you know I really brought your media
0:08:56 book that you make rap yo why you were
0:09:00 saying with that and he even said this
0:09:01 to 100 roses when he met my body oh yeah
0:09:05 I played that door yeah that's what
0:09:07 business we go to but you know you
0:09:09 believe in our God that wants prayers
0:09:12 and the merciful that look he's right
0:09:15 yeah if you cannot prove every absolute
0:09:18 pure for tomorrow
0:09:20 I don't think you can continue okay but
0:09:22 you can't even prove him this is what I
0:09:26 wanted to happen
0:09:27 I understand when you're here appreciate
0:09:29 the fact that we are having a proper
0:09:31 conversation but really what it comes
0:09:33 down to is what's the starting point now
0:09:35 the coin three is we have to accept that
0:09:38 the universe except the universe exists
0:09:41 then we don't you go help your question
0:09:43 here is where we start from is crucial
0:09:46 now where we do start from there believe
0:09:48 every business I believe the universe
0:09:50 exists because you believe yes I believe
0:09:53 that is a new believe you agree yes I
0:09:55 believe have rush mental a new baby
0:09:57 imagination now we can start from here
0:09:59 will be the simply thing and we both
0:10:01 assumed them yet let's have a
0:10:02 conversation
0:10:03 okay now why do you think what is okay
0:10:05 I'm going to pour for you
0:10:10 - Elam everything with limits my
0:10:15 vulnerable with limited mary game
0:10:18 everything will be available but if
0:10:19 there is no popping out I don't know
0:10:25 anything that exists is here yeah has
0:10:29 limited variables not a minion and
0:10:31 they're benign does everything have
0:10:32 limited variable universe and I okay the
0:10:35 point of everything our observation
0:10:37 which have limited variables this is
0:10:39 everything
0:10:39 yeah okay everything that was an
0:10:42 emergency in it depends upon something
0:10:45 okay well I don't know really another
0:10:50 know what never you're talking out now
0:10:52 the depends you have you say everything
0:10:55 and you're talking about Pacific Life
0:10:56 that's a different point from everything
0:10:59 as in every single atom and quantum
0:11:01 level of everything so essentially we
0:11:04 talk about it with the science again
0:11:05 depending on quantum realities
0:11:07 everything is everything and everything
0:11:09 does relate to everything else right so
0:11:10 you would agree that well it very well
0:11:13 not in the sense that there's a linear
0:11:15 structure I mean it depends on this and
0:11:17 disciplines of this no not over here in
0:11:19 the universe depends everything else so
0:11:21 here what you said is that it is not
0:11:23 have to be a linear structure I do
0:11:27 you [ __ ] [ __ ] shame I'm not I'm
0:11:31 talking about penises limiting one thing
0:11:33 relying on one thing else yes choose
0:11:35 this is that simple fact of Alleluia
0:11:37 everything is right I'm sorry you're
0:11:39 saying that for example doesn't have to
0:11:42 relate to a linear structure which is
0:11:44 based on some part of time okay I didn't
0:11:50 prepare to give up my linear structure
0:11:52 IQs you you said that everything is
0:11:55 known words you said that everything has
0:11:57 it deserved
0:11:58 okay so the universe have them variables
0:12:02 like it therefore the universe depends
0:12:05 upon something else or you see this is
0:12:09 not living that logic you're using about
0:12:11 things you've learnt about within the
0:12:13 universe you are now going to apply that
0:12:15 logic to universal that's a big step to
0:12:18 me Armour if you are because I'm not a
0:12:20 universal by this universe all what
0:12:24 we're saying about this is about the
0:12:26 first balloon event that you what you're
0:12:27 saying by this university depends on
0:12:28 something else
0:12:28 why said first so the udemy logic at the
0:12:32 sale of inside the universe one to talk
0:12:34 about how the universe must also be
0:12:36 succumb to that magic you know you know
0:12:38 did you know what you described
0:12:39 something calls the fallacy of
0:12:40 composition yeah that's not one referral
0:12:43 I'm I'm making and these are principles
0:12:46 which I'm not improving and do these
0:12:48 principles limit themselves to the
0:12:49 universe if they do why would they well
0:12:52 so you're saying that we've learned
0:12:53 something about the universe therefore
0:12:55 that tells us how to universities
0:12:56 because you know obviously universes so
0:12:58 how you telling me that you know how do
0:13:00 you know that the universe depends on
0:13:02 something else you don't know nothing
0:13:03 about anything outside this unity I'm
0:13:05 not so maybe there is on the right well
0:13:06 maybe there is nothing outside this
0:13:07 universe and therefore the universe
0:13:09 doesn't depend on any other thing
0:13:11 let me go back here for you to claim
0:13:15 that the universe also depends on an
0:13:17 external thing is an assertion that you
0:13:19 cannot prove let me say it again
0:13:21 yes we agree you said yourself in your
0:13:23 own work that everything in existence
0:13:26 yeah I said everything in the universe
0:13:29 depends on everything else before that
0:13:32 what the price fine I'm concerned honest
0:13:33 today we are only talking about the
0:13:34 universe we're not talking about size
0:13:36 really matter
0:13:37 anything with limited variables depends
0:13:40 upon proper dose that's why I'm in
0:13:44 physiology in psychology on believe that
0:13:47 to talk about university but now you're
0:13:54 talking about everything in the universe
0:13:55 and always universe it no potentiation
0:13:58 event or potential universes all
0:14:02 universes where the basic physical exam
0:14:07 this is Robert in confusion you are
0:14:10 academically why would make sense that
0:14:12 is a matter of role the Mary one name or
0:14:15 the logic of things in the universe
0:14:18 depending on each other also applies to
0:14:20 the universe you said I said nothing
0:14:30 about of evil all right
0:14:32 well you are still claiming there's
0:14:33 something
0:14:36 you're claiming that this universe
0:14:38 depends on something external to this
0:14:40 universe otherwise otherwise you'd agree
0:14:43 with me when I saw everything in the
0:14:44 universe depends on everything in the
0:14:45 universe okay are you saying okay I
0:14:47 understand your point out yes yes I get
0:14:49 you answer yes I understand sorry first
0:14:52 oh yeah the ownership really has three
0:14:54 points yeah you can either say that the
0:14:57 universe is dependent upon itself which
0:15:00 is what you're saying
0:15:00 yeah you said everything in this
0:15:02 universe is eternal women you started
0:15:04 you started this for my sentence about
0:15:07 anything anything that has unlimited
0:15:09 variables yeah that's what I go have new
0:15:12 stuff limited anything that has limited
0:15:13 variables depends on something else
0:15:15 right so fine in school practical
0:15:19 day-to-day terms that might well be true
0:15:20 okay but the fact is we don't know
0:15:22 whether that applies to the universe
0:15:23 itself
0:15:24 not exactly the universe so I to the
0:15:27 unit right show me how I said everything
0:15:29 that my first from this was that
0:15:31 anything was limited variables yeah
0:15:34 depends upon something so first of all
0:15:36 demonstrate the universe has limited
0:15:37 variables then depend why is it so show
0:15:39 me what it depends operator because if
0:15:41 the universe turns out to be infinite
0:15:42 there could be infinite variable as well
0:15:44 and we don't know darn product when I
0:15:46 say infinite well when I say limited
0:15:47 verbal
0:15:48 you agree your view of me that the
0:15:50 universe has limited very well no
0:15:52 actually I don't know because the
0:15:53 universe or they why are infinite
0:15:55 because my brain for the sake of
0:15:56 argument even if it's been there was a
0:15:58 breathing on it yeah but I'm just saying
0:15:59 okay even if it this even if I go back
0:16:02 to that position the fact though we're
0:16:03 not saying for the sake of our you still
0:16:04 have to demonstrate that the universe
0:16:06 actually is that case and what does the
0:16:08 famous go for it yeah if they're limited
0:16:11 is just way too simple role as a please
0:16:13 oh you're really struggling with limited
0:16:15 variable green for sure it depends on
0:16:16 something else also please this is what
0:16:18 does that even mean mister
0:16:20 who is discussing serious is it easier
0:16:22 in the discussion I'm not look I'm just
0:16:24 talking about rational concept I haven't
0:16:26 even mentioned religion I know there
0:16:28 might be some pressure on YouTube I
0:16:30 don't know any number I don't understand
0:16:32 where your friend age just gets into the
0:16:33 program gets the program let's just take
0:16:36 a simple example are they limited or
0:16:38 unlimited amounts of stars in the
0:16:40 universe I don't know okay if you think
0:16:43 if you know the thumb because the
0:16:44 supernova yeah a supernova is a
0:16:47 wonderful bias now okay if a sequin over
0:16:50 happens and you have one left or in the
0:16:53 universe yes if that happened it does
0:16:57 unlimited amount of the universe and one
0:16:59 star by how many stars are there
0:17:01 negative our names in a month
0:17:04 it's the universe as a limited amount of
0:17:07 sighs well I'm limited amount as well
0:17:08 you're sick with this York yeah yeah
0:17:10 we're talking about unlimited or limited
0:17:13 in it as I if I say that you've got
0:17:15 unlimited amount of puzzle universe
0:17:17 there and then one star dies for a
0:17:20 supernova
0:17:21 do you have unlimited of limited amount
0:17:23 of problem did you start with the
0:17:25 limited amount I'm just saying whatever
0:17:27 if I believe I have an unlimited amount
0:17:29 and we always do get unlimited amount
0:17:30 they decide we're limited Ibaka way was
0:17:32 yeah is willing to minus 1 equals
0:17:34 infinite suppose in another episode
0:17:35 Richard you can't have you commit to
0:17:37 myself if anything - one doesn't exist
0:17:39 if they're construct which is a
0:17:41 contradiction in terms
0:17:42 brief until infinity by right nature you
0:17:45 can't add or minus P so if you could go
0:17:47 in that direction for infinite how does
0:17:49 that mean that you couldn't go from 1
0:17:51 meter closest incident as well things
0:17:52 aren't going as okay why not because if
0:17:55 you take away look if you have an
0:17:57 infinite amount of stars and you take
0:17:59 one far away then you have infinity
0:18:01 minus 1 now you still have been seen
0:18:03 that's the public contradiction well
0:18:06 apparently this is embarrassing a little
0:18:08 embarrassing because infinity is not a
0:18:10 number
0:18:10 infinity the process that will go on
0:18:12 forever we were saying affinities law is
0:18:14 not an aperture number 1 so is it
0:18:17 something the contract if I know forever
0:18:19 there's much here would say if you have
0:18:23 an infinite amount of stars and you take
0:18:25 one away is that feasible which is you
0:18:27 obviously want to read the book
0:18:30 I do not be the role you have to if you
0:18:32 have an infinite number of terms and you
0:18:34 did anything to it boys will be internet
0:18:36 because it's an ongoing process actually
0:18:38 a contradiction right because infinity
0:18:41 plus or minus one is an event it's not
0:18:44 it doesn't exist that's right that's a
0:18:45 contradiction of God Rose do not
0:18:47 understand it when you treat infinity
0:18:49 it's not anything you're thinking about
0:18:51 that when you take the range of it
0:18:52 you're talking about a process that
0:18:54 we're going forever but no matter what
0:18:56 you take will give to it will still go
0:18:57 on parihaka that's why it's done
0:18:59 anything wouldn't be stuck with the idea
0:19:00 of is realistic look you have to
0:19:02 understand so it's not my fault that you
0:19:03 don't know business matters there's no
0:19:04 definition of infinity by the way how
0:19:06 I'm using it's not basic design
0:19:13 consultants on preparing bottles of
0:19:17 water yes even when the star goes in a
0:19:20 row keyboard this is the no Leela movie
0:19:21 days ago saying I don't know basic math
0:19:25 this concept you know I'm saying
0:19:26 misunderstanding is in okay fine even if
0:19:28 okay so you have to do it or if you try
0:19:30 to use it like it's a set number and
0:19:33 therefore very lately for lazy if you
0:19:36 three infinitely like a number then the
0:19:38 idea of making something away your mood
0:19:40 swings a bit we're changing because it's
0:19:43 a matter if you remember well it's not a
0:19:44 number it comes even if they're
0:19:47 interrupts awesome I don't know is it
0:19:49 possible to create a muscles anyway what
0:19:51 if I don't know then we might have a
0:19:52 winner
0:19:53 I don't know if it's possible or not
0:19:56 always going out of LMR every single
0:19:58 variable there is nearly like oh I don't
0:20:00 know these things may be used there I'm
0:20:02 saying there is saying you never know
0:20:04 I'm not very good
0:20:05 you know quite I'm not invincible weapon
0:20:08 has a limited number of errors you're
0:20:09 saying Adam I have an unlimited amount
0:20:11 sir no I'm saying that if the universe
0:20:13 turns out to be infinite and the number
0:20:15 of variables could also work in the
0:20:17 middle so you're saying in the universe
0:20:19 so but that's not what supposing right
0:20:22 so why the structure if the universe in
0:20:26 time is intimate referring to the right
0:20:28 perfect I'm driving you home is white
0:20:30 not one factor even with even in fine
0:20:43 anyway why I'm saying it this is what
0:20:47 women ardently yeah heavy ease and you
0:20:53 can have in a limited amount of verbal
0:20:55 the pendulum come on variables therefore
0:21:01 the universal time for my health I you
0:21:04 said before that the universe everything
0:21:06 the universe in a very very convenient
0:21:09 as you said that everything in the
0:21:11 universe depends upon having
0:21:14 in German yes that's the thousand for
0:21:17 our great days in that everything it
0:21:26 depends in the four images which is I
0:21:28 was actually the traditional psychology
0:21:30 and if you cannot be that particular
0:21:32 situation is the truth it cannot be that
0:21:34 the secular situation is the truth
0:21:36 cannot be that the secular situation is
0:21:38 the truth
0:21:52 cannot be that a secular situation is
0:21:55 the truth nope right so what you're
0:21:57 saying is that everything in this
0:21:59 universe cannot be explained in terms of
0:22:01 everything which is not a little take
0:22:02 place I use the word dependent
0:22:04 contingent you can say that everything
0:22:06 is the one over the last day for example
0:22:07 lap dances at the end of the day you
0:22:10 know I'm using you're saying I accept we
0:22:13 memory size we accept the universe
0:22:15 exists now explain why the universe is
0:22:17 the way here you need to create a
0:22:20 magical dimension to fit the budget I
0:22:22 don't need to see that what makes our
0:22:24 not have the universe or strong enough I
0:22:26 will look at the universe itself and
0:22:27 seek to explain it with in terms of the
0:22:29 universe if you think that secular
0:22:31 finebros are you are you saying that the
0:22:35 universe itself is the present upon the
0:22:37 universe itself no I'm not saying that
0:22:39 the existence of the universe depends on
0:22:41 the universe experiment I'm not saying
0:22:43 that wasn't I was saying that when you
0:22:45 said the one thing this reveals how
0:22:47 would you offer that what the existence
0:22:48 of universe what is it the federal is it
0:22:51 you can I have one or two things if it
0:22:54 depended upon you got the optimal well
0:22:56 the original of the universe it
0:22:59 dependent upon its own existence
0:23:02 one which is I which is circular and
0:23:04 contradictory the existence of the
0:23:07 universe existence is dependent or
0:23:09 contingent or something else which is
0:23:11 dependent the existence of the universe
0:23:14 is depend upon dowager's independent
0:23:16 what is it which is it the end of the
0:23:18 day I don't know we don't know Donna
0:23:20 because you fine yeah we'd you know are
0:23:22 we done okay how logic works if I'm
0:23:25 break down the time I told you that the
0:23:27 logic using applied to things within the
0:23:30 universe you cannot take that logic
0:23:31 which works within the universe then you
0:23:34 take you outside and they also acquire
0:23:36 things right because we've never been
0:23:37 out there you might not be anything out
0:23:38 there you're you're assuming I
0:23:40 established that a hollow did anything
0:23:42 outside of the physical universe if the
0:23:45 universe is family exists and that seems
0:23:48 because of it right the universe
0:23:50 expanding there is no not why not if you
0:23:54 tell me what's right tell me why that
0:23:55 isn't we go right would be another
0:23:58 universe to be very right so this is one
0:24:00 thing she is that you don't know nothing
0:24:01 about whatever where our universe end
0:24:03 and they make there must be for the
0:24:05 outside of it
0:24:06 you don't know nothing about this the
0:24:07 universe responding there must be
0:24:09 expanding into something please yes
0:24:13 not then why there must be something
0:24:20 there for if expanding to a mostly empty
0:24:21 space they're pretty tiny flossing and
0:24:23 straight I say it must be something I
0:24:24 must do something so uh so what okay so
0:24:27 here I'm saying to go disembarking I'm
0:24:30 going to be straightforward no we love
0:24:31 you look I think what is important what
0:24:34 are the conceptions or the attributions
0:24:35 we're going to assign I'm sure you
0:24:37 remember deliver this is a great please
0:24:38 ma'am do not limit yourself to the
0:24:40 systemic Islamic consciousness mantras
0:24:43 are the fact of the matter is you start
0:24:44 your deductive logic from what you would
0:24:46 be as fact these are not fat okay so
0:24:50 these are the facts deductive logic or
0:24:52 my from Selva hot wax on my promises all
0:24:54 I'm not saying that I'm knowing that
0:24:56 they are not established as back so what
0:25:00 value deductions I know they may or may
0:25:03 not be true you don't know that I don't
0:25:05 know that okay so you're saying that you
0:25:07 you believe that my premises are I
0:25:09 believe that they're not convincing to
0:25:11 be accepted as the truth advantage they
0:25:13 are just a weak assumption the other
0:25:16 here after to go with the universe yeah
0:25:19 do you accept that there are three
0:25:21 options either that the universe it
0:25:23 depends on upon yourself order the
0:25:25 universe's the president for something
0:25:26 else which is defended all that the
0:25:28 universe is independent
0:25:31 oh it's okay universe all right well
0:25:34 there is a possibility that occasional
0:25:36 vibration I'm talking about dependency
0:25:38 yeah but I'm maybe grain itself then it
0:25:41 didn't depend on anything else the ways
0:25:42 of us and it'll pray that it doesn't
0:25:44 miss a higher degree so sighs a module
0:25:46 that's represented by through that but
0:25:48 can be button me my famous famous
0:25:50 scientist down it's a module that they
0:25:53 put forward as a possibility a potential
0:25:56 possibility now now model so you don't
0:25:58 know all of the system's you don't know
0:25:59 more about the origin of the universe
0:26:01 and those guys you are just using the
0:26:03 fact that you want the time to be true
0:26:05 oh and you find with we don't run
0:26:06 everywhere rhetoric oh it's Momsen silly
0:26:08 so listen boy it feels like you're
0:26:10 getting emotional
0:26:10 then I'm trying to keep this into
0:26:12 Russian of this course just because I'm
0:26:13 almost released before my facebook you
0:26:15 best afraid I'm no I drew with you for a
0:26:18 yeah you know the fact I was hope that
0:26:20 you're coming with me
0:26:21 I agree with you okay so by a terrible
0:26:23 argument is super volume please hustle
0:26:25 I'm sure you'd be nice to someone who's
0:26:28 an atheist or someone who's a nerd
0:26:30 attach it to me
0:26:31 okay therefore this one put them in
0:26:32 their place they will be no problem for
0:26:34 here I'm just saying instead of using
0:26:37 arrogating terms and using world as well
0:26:40 simple fact the various rate is you
0:26:42 slide off we will night them well but
0:26:44 the fact of the matter is your game is
0:26:45 rubbish okay it's not good awesome
0:26:47 answer just tell me your subjective but
0:26:48 right just tell me thank you for what
0:26:50 you think is true and why you think
0:26:51 assume it I just want to thank very
0:26:53 nowhere graphic thank you for showing
0:26:55 off the special I appreciate your public
0:26:57 not to say I'm just really pausing there
0:27:01 are better arguments out okay exciting
0:27:03 something is we project making right for
0:27:05 what's a bit about the five million
0:27:08 we were out early that's the reason
0:27:11 that's not from sake of the cameras made
0:27:14 from some kind of underwater boom I'm
0:27:21 just trying to show you my war view yeah
0:27:23 I'm sorry if it's making me frustrated
0:27:26 not the only thing that I get frustrated
0:27:27 about is the fact that you assign your
0:27:30 deductive logic for things that are way
0:27:32 less than established track of your
0:27:34 sample thank you very much what you
0:27:37 consider Thomas Robinson
0:27:38 well to some extent there will never be
0:27:41 anything that absolutely affect you okay
0:27:43 but if you're going to sort this out
0:27:45 even what you discerner if you are going
0:27:47 to start deductive logic it has to be on
0:27:50 something that is at least accepted to
0:27:53 be true or self-evidently to in the same
0:27:55 fact if my version of Dracula is that
0:27:58 all human beings would die you just blew
0:28:00 that okay okay I am a human being do you
0:28:02 agree with that okay right so I will die
0:28:05 this is premise from its conclusion
0:28:06 that's how deductive logic way now what
0:28:09 you guys do make that distinction I'm
0:28:12 putting my silly claims about the
0:28:14 universe I'm a little these little a
0:28:16 variable affect his mother although this
0:28:19 is the sleep is not where I'm stuck too
0:28:21 much of brilliance of us
0:28:23 and our delicious pizza I'm calling it
0:28:27 anybody don't know if you're trying to
0:28:28 make a show of the fact I might not come
0:28:30 but this is how I behave oh okay even
0:28:32 though most are tender this is
0:28:33 everything we ever be different yeah we
0:28:35 were talking in the restaurant worker
0:28:36 okay but in a restaurant we had time to
0:28:39 end up I sat in jail here I want to go
0:28:41 back to ya but another kind of approach
0:28:44 we were to me there's a level of my role
0:28:45 am i right well I taught me for one
0:28:47 minute and even when you're in the car
0:28:50 is desire time to run show you who you
0:28:53 are
0:28:53 I said may you did it run out when we're
0:28:57 in the car I was driving into the
0:28:58 restaurant did I did I take a wrong turn
0:29:00 particular event a friend's a brother
0:29:03 Jose for that didn't have okay we have
0:29:07 no problem yeah I know you an expert
0:29:10 panel you've got you've suffered
0:29:12 medicine whether I'm not here to attack
0:29:15 Pacific region
0:29:19 the lamb
0:29:20 I'm just exchanging ideas maybe all
0:29:23 right maybe I'm gonna show me how we're
0:29:26 gonna be like well I am fit up there if
0:29:32 I'm wrong
0:29:33 they're obvious for saying that our
0:29:35 customers are going to travel argue
0:29:37 European assistant all these when you're
0:29:39 a being the raving the detectives are in
0:29:41 Survivor but instead of doing that I
0:29:43 oppose you anyone to be a scientist
0:29:47 convey things a mathematician thing you
0:29:49 know like you know when you're mad
0:29:50 if you're human and your future was very
0:29:52 massive on the water because a terrible
0:29:56 argument
0:29:57 it's a terrible if you're rigging the
0:29:58 system you get exactly the same things
0:30:00 to zero as explained by one thing just
0:30:04 because you said that it doesn't make it
0:30:05 true okay now I have explained it okay
0:30:08 so hyperbole and overt officially I
0:30:10 don't think it let's just people to me
0:30:12 yeah we didn't like lame is the fact is
0:30:14 using a deductive logic with premises
0:30:16 that are less than accepting what's your
0:30:19 acceptance or service or sometimes I'm
0:30:21 not making any deductive logic am I did
0:30:23 you see me start with a premise because
0:30:24 you and when I did I made sure that your
0:30:26 visa was something so you need to do the
0:30:28 same okay make your permits and ask me
0:30:30 why Christmas tree so make your
0:30:31 pessimist and also if I agree that okay
0:30:33 that's what I want is a loser
0:30:35 as for ask you what is that which you
0:30:37 will agree with
0:30:38 oh how can I know before you tell me I
0:30:40 don't know what was your stand up to my
0:30:43 standard of tradition is that there
0:30:45 might not be any such thing as absolute
0:30:46 truth so what you just said back is
0:30:48 because it could be found
0:30:49 okay thank you very much Rebecca I'm
0:30:52 going to go pray and mother was ketchup
0:30:55 mayo laughing with the camera you ever
0:30:57 do this private matter
0:30:58 hello bro