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0:01:51 today is september the 9th september
0:01:53 11th sorry
0:01:55 and dr muhammad al-masri will continue
0:01:57 this serious session on surat al-maidah
0:02:00 and we are currently on verse
0:02:03 68
0:02:05 68
0:02:11 in my counting we have finished uh we
0:02:13 discussed the issue that i said that you
0:02:15 broadcast already
0:02:17 communicate what you have received from
0:02:19 your lord and if you don't do that you
0:02:22 did not completely the the duty of the
0:02:24 messenger and allah will protect you
0:02:26 from the people allah does not guide
0:02:29 this believing people
0:02:31 i think we discuss that
0:02:32 and we
0:02:33 we
0:02:34 we
0:02:35 added a little bit of discussion about
0:02:37 uh uh how some shia claimed this is that
0:02:40 he has been ordered to broadcast and
0:02:42 that ali would be his follower and
0:02:43 things like that he was afraid i think
0:02:45 that and we said this is nonsense and
0:02:47 mentioned many cases where he
0:02:49 announced many things for ali
0:02:51 minor things and major things and did
0:02:53 not bother about anybody objecting or
0:02:54 not objecting that's not the issue
0:02:56 something else must have been meant by
0:02:58 that and we discarded already
0:03:00 i think we stopped there i said if i
0:03:02 remember
0:03:16 say oh you follow o followers of the
0:03:18 bible you have no valid ground for your
0:03:21 beliefs unless you truly observe the
0:03:23 torah and the gospel and all that has
0:03:25 been bestowed from on high upon you by
0:03:27 your sustainer
0:03:28 yet all that has been disturbed from on
0:03:30 high upon the oh prophet by thy
0:03:33 sustainer is bound to make many of them
0:03:35 yet more stubborn in their overweening
0:03:38 i think it's maybe overwhelming
0:03:39 arrogance and in their denial of the
0:03:41 truth
0:03:42 but sorrow not over the over people who
0:03:44 deny the truth next translation
0:03:47 say people of the book you have no valid
0:03:49 grounds for your beliefs unless you
0:03:51 truly observe the torah and the gospel
0:03:53 and all that has been sent down to you
0:03:54 from your lord yet all that has been
0:03:57 sent down to you prophet by your lord is
0:03:59 bound to make many of them more stubborn
0:04:01 in their arrogance and in their denial
0:04:03 of the truth do not worry about
0:04:05 unbelievers
0:04:07 yeah that's interesting the problem the
0:04:09 last part they do not be used do not
0:04:11 feel sorry for the disbelievers because
0:04:13 they have theirs not by their own choice
0:04:15 now it's suggesting the people of the
0:04:16 book that you are you are you are really
0:04:18 nothing you have no ground for your
0:04:19 claims to be the people of the book and
0:04:21 so on unless you really uh stand firm
0:04:24 and establish what have been revealed
0:04:26 upon high both in the torah and the
0:04:27 injeel
0:04:28 of the gospel
0:04:29 and whatever else has been distorted
0:04:32 down to your lord which include that
0:04:34 what has been revealed down to muhammad
0:04:36 because if
0:04:37 some people say this means they can't
0:04:39 even after islam they can't continue
0:04:40 observing the torah and injeel and
0:04:43 they will be fine if they are really
0:04:45 observing or they have never observed
0:04:46 after that anyway the reality they never
0:04:48 really observed probably and completely
0:04:50 but this is this is a misinterpretation
0:04:52 because it says not only autonomous
0:04:57 and to you if they have really observed
0:04:59 the total ninja
0:05:01 meticulously and thoroughly and not for
0:05:03 follow the
0:05:05 speculative
0:05:06 uh conjectures of certain men like
0:05:08 stanford for consenting his and his the
0:05:10 meaning of his message and so if they
0:05:12 would really gone back there and
0:05:15 took clearly the greatest common
0:05:17 denominator or whatever the core is
0:05:18 there they would have not declared isa
0:05:21 to be divine they would have understood
0:05:23 the prophecy of daniel
0:05:25 uh probably which does that indicate
0:05:28 anything of of
0:05:29 of atoning for the original sin they
0:05:32 would have understood that there was no
0:05:33 original sin there's a justification in
0:05:35 their mind all of these things so they
0:05:36 did not establish probably but it now
0:05:40 whatever has come from upon high an
0:05:42 injunction and so on has been abrogated
0:05:43 by the final message and also what have
0:05:46 been in the recordation as we said that
0:05:48 recordation is more or less generally
0:05:51 accurate but it is not complete so all
0:05:54 they have covered up certain books and
0:05:55 said books have been lost that's number
0:05:57 one
0:05:58 and this is they are that's admittedly
0:06:00 their own books their books and their
0:06:01 guarantee in their hand that's number
0:06:03 one
0:06:04 number two uh
0:06:06 they have obviously uh
0:06:08 written according to a testimony of the
0:06:10 quran in the books what is not revealed
0:06:12 according to their desire because of
0:06:14 partisanship because of
0:06:16 political dispute and exile and this is
0:06:18 clear uh by by little uh so-called
0:06:21 literary analysis and so on that just
0:06:24 just
0:06:24 is sufficient just to go to compare
0:06:27 the book of the device leviticus and
0:06:30 deuteronomy they contain similar
0:06:32 injunctions about the priesthood and so
0:06:34 on with the variations so
0:06:37 how come they are big
0:06:38 how come that they are given to moses at
0:06:40 the same time and which one obligates
0:06:42 which one what's it the reality is that
0:06:45 it seems to be the authority is a later
0:06:46 compilation trying to either things in
0:06:50 diverticus that's what the literary
0:06:52 critic shows obviously this is
0:06:53 speculative but it is quite persuasive
0:06:56 and various other things there obviously
0:06:59 which which is is quite disturbing
0:07:03 so
0:07:04 the final revelation or that's what have
0:07:06 we revealed to that view of the lord
0:07:08 upon high inc from high excluding this
0:07:10 one
0:07:11 it is
0:07:12 uh it is here it has abrogated the
0:07:14 previous injunction and that clarified
0:07:16 certain stories and history some of them
0:07:18 are the most relevant things the quran
0:07:20 says clearly
0:07:21 our messenger came to clarify many
0:07:23 things we have been out disputing about
0:07:25 the scripture and forgiving many things
0:07:27 he's not going to discuss every historic
0:07:29 point and every claim and
0:07:32 make you look bad more than you are
0:07:33 looking bad already it was just address
0:07:36 few issues like for example you remember
0:07:38 bakara
0:07:40 the issue that they came to the prophet
0:07:41 asking for a king so that they can fight
0:07:43 in the cause of allah the quran is only
0:07:45 that they fail to
0:07:46 they claim that they want to find the
0:07:48 kosovo he did not discuss that lengthy
0:07:50 discussion in the book of salman that
0:07:53 that actually they they wanted actually
0:07:55 to have a king so that they were they
0:07:57 don't want allah to be their king they
0:07:59 don't want to comply with the revelation
0:08:01 they want the king which will lose my
0:08:02 desire and they were warned
0:08:05 i advise everyone strongly to go to
0:08:07 to
0:08:09 to the book of samwell number one and
0:08:11 read the first few uh verses there a few
0:08:14 pages of the first chapter or two it
0:08:17 just described the whole discussion with
0:08:19 samuel and the pitfall of kingdom and
0:08:21 all of these things i did not discuss
0:08:23 that because final revelation
0:08:25 made clear that there is no king except
0:08:27 allah secondly that all affairs between
0:08:29 the believers will be settled by
0:08:30 consultation and by mutual agreement
0:08:33 that's sure in majority and it couldn't
0:08:35 enforce by the action of the bastard
0:08:37 medina and also by the fact that he did
0:08:39 not took more
0:08:41 state power not for the prophetic
0:08:42 parties is bestowed on upon high but by
0:08:45 state power
0:08:46 until he
0:08:48 wrote the sahiba
0:08:49 acceptable as a leader of muhajiroun
0:08:53 and they're sufficiently numerous to be
0:08:55 like like a like a tribe or like a state
0:08:57 entity so whether he was their head
0:09:00 was the leader of their party when they
0:09:01 were a party in makkah or or an
0:09:03 organization or a movement and they
0:09:05 thought when they are medina they have
0:09:07 to structure themselves somewhere like a
0:09:09 state like entity he was the head but he
0:09:11 was not the head of the onslaught we
0:09:13 discussed that in sahih
0:09:14 extensively
0:09:16 and is translated also
0:09:18 only after writing the sahih fatih
0:09:20 medina
0:09:34 federation has been established and the
0:09:35 confederation in gov
0:09:37 including the jews have been established
0:09:39 as the slave species so he was not even
0:09:41 head of state like many people or that
0:09:42 for example hezbollah claimed that he
0:09:44 established and he was looking for nusra
0:09:46 to establish the state no he was looking
0:09:48 to protect them themselves through the
0:09:50 canada well i think that's that we
0:09:51 discussed many times this issue casually
0:09:54 and uh it is thoroughly discussed in
0:09:56 both
0:09:57 the the paper which is called the nusra
0:09:59 mana and establishing the state i think
0:10:01 this is also translated yeah i think
0:10:03 it's translated
0:10:04 and also that we have the sahiba of
0:10:06 medina the medina constitution also
0:10:08 translated
0:10:10 so what are available it shows clearly
0:10:12 that that
0:10:14 kingship is completely abolished and not
0:10:15 accepted and there is no discussion
0:10:17 about that so there was no need in
0:10:18 social bakra to go up with a lengthy
0:10:20 discussion the boring discussion between
0:10:22 them and some will about
0:10:25 about
0:10:27 kingship and choosing a king and so on
0:10:29 and ultimately their requests were
0:10:31 granted with the with a warning that
0:10:34 these kings will be oppressive they will
0:10:36 be tyrannical and you will be
0:10:37 supplicating complaining about their
0:10:39 tyranny and they will not accept your
0:10:41 prayers that's all in some way but not
0:10:43 in the quran because i just
0:10:45 swept over that did not address that
0:10:48 you know that's only the issue that they
0:10:49 claimed they wanted the king for jihad
0:10:51 and then when jihad was obligated they
0:10:54 was not obligated on them they could do
0:10:56 jihad they could represent from jihad
0:11:00 they failed to fulfill the obligation so
0:11:02 they they didn't have really
0:11:04 clear intention that's in ancient times
0:11:07 so that's that's so that's what
0:11:09 concerning what what they call torah
0:11:11 which is really not the real torah the
0:11:12 law
0:11:13 the teaching delivered by musa and you
0:11:16 find in shrine and some of the five
0:11:17 books not all of them even even the
0:11:20 genesis is not written by musa is
0:11:21 nothing but
0:11:22 as a collection of maybe prophetic
0:11:25 statements and myths and stories and so
0:11:27 on of time past and half of it is
0:11:29 legendary or mythical only from time
0:11:32 abraham downroad it's more or less a
0:11:34 little bit historical
0:11:36 but anything earlier is just just
0:11:39 just
0:11:40 just
0:11:41 legendary etc so
0:11:44 but it's a challenge if you really claim
0:11:46 that you have something
0:11:47 then establish really what's good the
0:11:49 torah manager was to establish that go
0:11:51 to the common core of all of these what
0:11:53 is the unique thread over this is the
0:11:56 unity of allah his sovereignty has
0:11:58 absolutely tried to command and his
0:12:00 various injunctions you should not kill
0:12:02 you shall become a theft you shouldn't
0:12:03 commit adultery all of these things if
0:12:05 you look at that
0:12:07 then clearly what has come with the
0:12:08 messenger messenger confirms that and
0:12:10 improve it and advance it further then
0:12:13 you should have complied with that then
0:12:14 you are on something so this is not uh
0:12:17 calling them to establish what they have
0:12:19 and and continue with it no some people
0:12:21 interpret that some people who call
0:12:23 themselves called for the sort of
0:12:24 abrahamic faith and things like that
0:12:26 that's not that's not what they write
0:12:27 the quran say
0:12:29 and they'll say well they see then after
0:12:30 that
0:12:31 that's what has been revealed to him
0:12:34 they will make them increase in their
0:12:36 rebellion and disbelief
0:12:39 because of the various motivation which
0:12:41 we discussed many times some of this
0:12:43 envy some of these tribalism will not
0:12:45 accept any prophet except if he's not
0:12:47 from the children of israel otherwise
0:12:49 would not accept as if they are going to
0:12:51 dictate to allah
0:12:52 whom he is going to choose and send etc
0:12:55 that's all not acceptable it's not
0:12:57 acceptable people who believe and know
0:12:59 it have really have committed to the
0:13:00 torah and and the gospel as they have
0:13:02 come
0:13:03 that's not everything
0:13:05 so so don't worry about that don't be
0:13:08 grieving about them don't be grieving
0:13:09 about the disbelieving people
0:13:13 and then a confirmation
0:13:15 of a fundamental fact
0:13:17 next ayah in the levine
0:13:27 for very those who have attained to
0:13:29 faith in this divine writ as well as
0:13:30 those who follow the jewish phrase and
0:13:32 the sabians and the christians all who
0:13:34 believe in god and the last day and do
0:13:36 righteous deed deeds no fear need they
0:13:39 have and neither shall they grieve next
0:13:41 translation the believers as well as the
0:13:43 jews the sabians and the christians all
0:13:45 who believe in god and the last day and
0:13:47 do righteous deeds will have nothing to
0:13:50 fear and they will not grieve yeah so
0:13:52 that's that's the believers that they
0:13:54 believe meaning specifically those are
0:13:55 following muhammad those who judaised in
0:13:58 time past
0:13:59 not at the time muhammad when they were
0:14:01 addressed to leave that abrogated sharia
0:14:04 and follow the final sharia and the sabi
0:14:07 on is here
0:14:09 is here
0:14:10 some some orientalists are some
0:14:11 simple-minded idiots they think because
0:14:13 sabi on is
0:14:27 some people say this is a mistake in the
0:14:28 quran it's obviously a joke such a blood
0:14:31 and mistake will not be committed by an
0:14:32 idiot let alone by muhammad so this is
0:14:35 this is the joke no wasabi one is
0:14:37 actually and as uh by by
0:14:39 abridging a sentence that comes after
0:14:41 lavina had aladdin had with
0:15:06 special category of the jews and most
0:15:08 likely almost certainly it's the
0:15:10 follower of john the baptist
0:15:12 or mostly settled in iraq and so on
0:15:17 so those the jew those who ever followed
0:15:19 the jewish faith when it was validated
0:15:23 under christians
0:15:35 that was the original name but then
0:15:36 later on especially in the greek
0:15:38 speaking world they adopted the name
0:15:40 christian which is okay it's not a
0:15:42 problem it's not for them the problem
0:15:43 but there they were calling them in the
0:15:45 arabic realm until islam and
0:15:47 they were not calling himself if you ask
0:15:49 anyone if they say i'm not surrounded
0:15:52 that that's later that's the idea
0:15:54 ritalin stated back although they
0:15:56 claimed that
0:15:57 in antioch and so on they said they
0:15:59 started following the follower of isa uh
0:16:02 uh uh uh as as as christian but that's
0:16:06 obviously in the greek speaking uh realm
0:16:08 in in aramaic and so on it remained
0:16:11 nassari and before that they were they
0:16:13 were nicknamed or or slandered by the
0:16:16 term galilean because being a galilean
0:16:18 at the time is meaning being like a
0:16:20 hawaii or jihadi and people who use
0:16:23 knives and fight with with swords and
0:16:25 things like that but this is an
0:16:27 accusation of being terrorists secretary
0:16:29 galilean meaning terrorists so their
0:16:31 opponent called them galilean codos and
0:16:33 they didn't consider naziris the
0:16:47 has been almost like it has been written
0:16:49 on the cross
0:16:51 so that that's it so all of these when
0:16:53 the when when the the
0:16:55 when their their
0:16:57 the the the religion was still not
0:16:59 abrogated and valid so those who are
0:17:01 judaized but did not receive the mere
0:17:03 misery of visa those that have nemesis
0:17:04 and injected it became covered they are
0:17:06 no more accepted they are not included
0:17:08 there because if they are believed
0:17:10 really in allah and they have judgement
0:17:11 properly and follow the scripture as in
0:17:13 the previous i had discussed they would
0:17:15 have accepted lisa and
0:17:17 many jews
0:17:18 maybe a majority or a small strong
0:17:20 minority accepted israel
0:17:22 and this is the one and from jews the
0:17:24 branch of the sabi in the fall of john
0:17:26 the baptist they settled in iraq maybe
0:17:28 they did not receive the message of isa
0:17:29 maybe they received it they want
0:17:31 monotheists also they are included in
0:17:33 the ayah and also the christians
0:17:35 those
0:17:37 all of these are still the quran make a
0:17:40 precautionary mark who believes in allah
0:17:42 on the day of jeremiah so if someone
0:17:43 came i'm a believer following muhammad
0:17:45 it doesn't count and he really believes
0:17:47 in allah and day of judgment and
0:17:49 make good deeds
0:17:51 perform good deeds only those not just
0:17:53 by title not just recalling i am a
0:17:55 believer in muhammad i am a jew
0:17:57 in the time judaism was the accepted
0:17:59 religion i am a sabbath sabby i am
0:18:01 follower of john the baptist and
0:18:02 following of jesus christ that's all
0:18:04 does not count as a self it has to be
0:18:08 certified and qualified but those from
0:18:10 those who having this claim on this
0:18:12 label
0:18:13 they have the
0:18:14 fundamental content believing in allah
0:18:16 and the day of judgment and do good
0:18:18 deeds
0:18:20 they have nothing to fear and nothing to
0:18:21 grieve
0:18:23 these are the saved ones so the saved
0:18:25 one is not the
0:18:26 only the saving sex and the wahhabi and
0:18:28 all this nonsense no the saved one is
0:18:30 much larger all the followers muhammad
0:18:32 and the previous generations the it is
0:18:35 used previous generation the sabi in
0:18:37 previous generations
0:18:39 who believe really and allah dave
0:18:40 judgment and to do good deeds they have
0:18:43 nothing to fear or who have believed in
0:18:45 that
0:18:47 so that so this is the it is not
0:18:48 addressing that the current one who
0:18:50 claimed to be jews or they even the kind
0:18:52 of muslim with the graveyard believer in
0:18:53 islam as long as they don't if they
0:18:55 really do not believe in allah they have
0:18:57 judgment and do good deeds
0:18:59 if there is no good is completely nil
0:19:01 just for just about the label it's not
0:19:03 sufficient and there's not going to help
0:19:05 it's not going to help
0:19:08 even
0:19:23 well he is a believer so believing is a
0:19:25 condition but it's not sufficient it's a
0:19:27 condition but what what is sufficient is
0:19:29 good deeds if the condition is fulfilled
0:19:32 which is a good deal without it without
0:19:34 the condition of belief for what did you
0:19:36 do good deeds
0:19:37 people will be asked
0:19:39 who may have done this charity and good
0:19:41 to actually say
0:19:43 they will be asking the whole question
0:19:44 according to the hadith have you ever
0:19:46 one day in your life ever thought that
0:19:49 you may be coming here for accounting
0:19:51 and some people say no i have never
0:19:53 thought
0:19:54 i never believed in division i never
0:19:55 thought that i would become if i could
0:19:57 say okay then you have forgotten this
0:19:59 day we forgot you today
0:20:00 you got
0:20:02 for your good deeds if they are
0:20:03 classified as goodies like some
0:20:04 humanitarian works on the ocean we must
0:20:07 agree that's really good there's no
0:20:08 problem with it
0:20:10 but you did it either for
0:20:11 self-satisfaction for self-fulfillment
0:20:14 for praise for glory
0:20:17 for good reputation whatever it is and
0:20:18 you got that already that's all what you
0:20:20 get
0:20:22 allah may be graceful also reduce his
0:20:24 punishment because of that a little bit
0:20:25 better don't expect anything from us
0:20:28 because those who do it for knowing that
0:20:30 they will come to accounting they will
0:20:32 be able to put it on the table and argue
0:20:34 for it but you you didn't do it for
0:20:36 today so this is to answer the question
0:20:38 people say we may see many catholics
0:20:40 even atheists do good deeds and they're
0:20:42 humanitarian and so on yeah indeed
0:20:44 but they did not do for allah
0:20:48 this is a necessary condition to be
0:20:50 rewarded
0:20:51 maybe it will help easing the punishment
0:20:53 reduce the punishment maybe we don't
0:20:55 know blessed by allah's grace allah is
0:20:56 graceful he can't do that but
0:20:59 requesting a reward for that would the
0:21:02 answer be
0:21:03 why you're requesting reward
0:21:05 actually he will actually he would be he
0:21:07 will ask her okay you did all of that
0:21:10 you have done charity you deserve you
0:21:12 did that from what wealth and money
0:21:13 would you how did you gain that with the
0:21:15 money i gave you the wealth of money
0:21:17 with your bodily ability or helping
0:21:19 people because you are badly able i give
0:21:21 you this body did you pay back that's
0:21:23 get that by that body by acknowledging
0:21:25 that i'm your lord and you're coming for
0:21:26 account you know you did not pay back at
0:21:28 least you did not do this many more duty
0:21:32 so that's
0:21:33 like there's a hadith interesting funny
0:21:35 hadith uh a man comes from qiyamah
0:21:38 um he secluded him somewhere in a in a
0:21:41 place and then
0:21:42 just devoted himself with what he called
0:21:44 worship secretary and worship is just
0:21:46 ritual
0:21:47 and then
0:21:48 he asked allah to to make him
0:21:50 independent from human beings also allah
0:21:52 grows
0:21:54 grand three on top of him and every day
0:21:56 he has a pongal net winter and
0:21:59 through the year daily he has one
0:22:00 pomegranate he eats and he has a small
0:22:02 riverlet who will provide with water and
0:22:04 he stayed there worshipped so many years
0:22:06 and he died
0:22:07 and then he came in okay nothing no no
0:22:09 he got him he was shattered obviously
0:22:11 that he's in seclusion he did not do
0:22:12 anything for the society but then he
0:22:14 says okay go to the paradise by my mercy
0:22:17 and the one said
0:22:18 by your messiah what's up with my work
0:22:21 said okay let us see how much is your
0:22:23 work with let us count
0:22:25 all these sublication and all these
0:22:28 prayers and fasting and so on over and
0:22:30 then let us weigh them
0:22:32 when they fasting with giving you one
0:22:35 one pomegranate a day even out of season
0:22:38 see how which one is you know in the
0:22:40 scales of real things in the scale of
0:22:42 allah is more valuable and then the
0:22:43 scale obviously was against him
0:22:46 because having one grad out of season
0:22:49 given by allah azza gratis is much more
0:22:51 valuable in the scheme of the universe
0:22:53 if he moved the absolute reality of
0:22:54 allah than your
0:22:57 your prayer andrei of that day
0:22:59 and that obviously he was he was out of
0:23:01 all good deeds and outbalanced and allah
0:23:04 said take him to the hellfire said
0:23:06 my lord no no no i i accept i will go to
0:23:09 police by your grace all my work is in
0:23:11 vain is useless well i said i thought
0:23:13 you were winning go buy my grace you
0:23:14 will go only by your grace by my grace
0:23:16 not by your deed don't think you did is
0:23:18 is really your own doing you couldn't do
0:23:21 it except by wealth i gave to you my
0:23:23 muscles i gave to you by life and then
0:23:26 physiology and biochemistry i gave to
0:23:28 you so just acknowledge this fact
0:23:31 so this i mentioned that as casually so
0:23:33 nobody should think that that
0:23:35 that
0:23:36 doing some charitable work without any
0:23:38 beliefs is worthy of rewarding or camera
0:23:40 you will get the answer you never did
0:23:42 that for for this day and secondly how
0:23:45 come that you you become a billionaire
0:23:47 do you think that's my bible ingenuity
0:23:49 there are so many people are more
0:23:50 ingenious than you
0:23:52 and
0:23:53 have even better starting point but they
0:23:54 didn't become billionaires condition
0:23:56 will so made so right for you yes you
0:23:58 did you did some work indeed but
0:24:01 without without allah allowing that to
0:24:03 happen in the universe you could not
0:24:04 have made that what which you have spent
0:24:06 on charity for example
0:24:08 or you could not have that bodily
0:24:10 ability which made you help for example
0:24:12 the neither the one who cannot help
0:24:15 care for themselves they are caring for
0:24:16 them that's very good but you got the
0:24:18 satisfaction you got it and you did not
0:24:20 pay back what all the capabilities i
0:24:22 gave it to you for free to start with
0:24:25 so nobody should nobody should come with
0:24:26 this argument what's up what this
0:24:27 charitable be able to do so many good
0:24:29 things and so on yeah but the condition
0:24:31 of evan is necessary to be rewarded
0:24:34 will it maybe reduce the sins just to
0:24:37 allah and he can't reduce the essence
0:24:40 thus or he can forgive if he wants but
0:24:42 but they have no argument to claim we we
0:24:45 deserve something nobody deserves
0:24:46 anything
0:24:48 it's all by allah's grace ultimately
0:24:49 ultimately
0:24:51 even the reason you have even the eyes
0:24:53 and and the capability to hear and
0:24:55 listen you are it's only shall you give
0:24:57 him from allah for free without even
0:25:00 you're not there even to demand that and
0:25:02 it's given to you for you probably
0:25:03 absolutely free
0:25:07 next area so that's that's concerning
0:25:09 that so don't be some people came out
0:25:11 all of these even the jews and christian
0:25:14 but do they really believe in allah
0:25:16 their judgment and do good deeds
0:25:19 are there these really good if they are
0:25:21 based on the false belief no
0:25:25 if they reject the final messenger or
0:25:27 the user of after is rejecting elisa
0:25:30 that they are catholic by their but at
0:25:32 least statement the quran they did not
0:25:33 believe in william allah they have
0:25:35 judgment they prefer to be allied with
0:25:37 the roman and and having high position
0:25:39 like a high priest who styles the uh
0:25:42 stood trial when he saw that
0:25:45 the one who appeared to be like
0:25:46 and so on
0:25:48 they they were concerned about their
0:25:49 positions and power and big high priests
0:25:51 and so on they don't bother about allah
0:25:53 judgment it's just very clear from their
0:25:55 behavior but these are not even if they
0:25:57 claim to be jews they didn't genuinely
0:25:59 believe in a lot of their judgment or
0:26:01 they did good deeds no
0:26:04 they did bad deeds actually
0:26:08 so
0:26:09 keep that in mind that these these
0:26:12 arguments are arrogance of history
0:26:14 playing games with the people and making
0:26:15 the putting the people on the believers
0:26:17 attempt to put their believers on the
0:26:19 corner say oh you think you are the only
0:26:20 one who will get a reward others will
0:26:22 get no no even the believers will not
0:26:25 get rewarding by allah's grace but they
0:26:26 have fulfilled certain condition so
0:26:28 they're eligible for reward
0:26:30 you are not eligible those who did not
0:26:32 fulfill the condition
0:26:33 those will not believe in the allah day
0:26:35 of judgment
0:26:36 they they will have to fear and they
0:26:38 have to grieve definitely but there's
0:26:39 all believe in allah judgment as a
0:26:41 precondition under good deeds and follow
0:26:43 all the revelation without rejecting any
0:26:46 messenger disbelieving in anyone even
0:26:47 messenger and you remember sort of
0:26:49 or at the end of the start that the
0:26:51 judges the this believe in allah and his
0:26:53 messengers or make a distinction with
0:26:55 allah messenger or claim we believe in
0:26:57 some deep someone that's not acceptable
0:26:59 you are not believing in allah there yet
0:27:01 if you if you will
0:27:02 make make sure
0:27:04 what give you an authority to accept
0:27:05 musa and not accept isa and accept islam
0:27:08 muhammad what give you the authority
0:27:10 why what's the justification
0:27:14 after seeing the evidence of the other
0:27:16 it's just the same coming from the same
0:27:17 source the same say the same meaning
0:27:20 as a matter of fact all all these who
0:27:22 object for some muhammad are essentially
0:27:24 rejecting islam and
0:27:26 claiming otherwise but because they may
0:27:28 have grown in a society which accept isa
0:27:30 as a divine or not divine soul they
0:27:32 think they they have accepted these but
0:27:33 they have to have rejected all of them
0:27:35 that's just in really the
0:27:37 the rational conclusion anyway i think
0:27:39 we discussed that sufficiently so that
0:27:41 clarify that issues many people come
0:27:43 with that what's about to charitable
0:27:45 people this one have spent billions in
0:27:47 charity and things like that
0:27:49 etc etc and he has more effect on
0:27:52 humanity than than many believers who
0:27:54 may be
0:27:55 just plowing the ground behind the cow
0:27:57 in bangladesh yes but there is a
0:27:58 fundamental difference
0:28:00 what others there's fundamental
0:28:02 conditions and who said that the one uh
0:28:04 the the poor farmer in bangladesh behind
0:28:06 his car when they're doing not very much
0:28:08 except feeding his own kids is not
0:28:11 higher in allah's eye than this one
0:28:12 multi billionaire in america
0:28:18 and valuation of things are different
0:28:20 and the scriptures say that even the old
0:28:22 scripture and the new testament and the
0:28:24 quran says that
0:28:26 so this is all just just three
0:28:28 attempting to to uh
0:28:30 to exonerate those who just don't
0:28:32 believe in allah they judgment that
0:28:33 they're still good they're charitable
0:28:34 they have no nothing negative oh they
0:28:36 indeed have negatives fundamental
0:28:38 negatives
0:28:40 they did not put themselves in the place
0:28:43 the universe they belong
0:28:44 they do not acknowledge that they have
0:28:46 been created by
0:28:48 and they owe him uh
0:28:50 respect and divinity and their
0:28:51 submission
0:28:52 so
0:28:53 so all the life essentially in vain it's
0:28:55 just just visited
0:29:15 indeed we accepted a solemn pledge from
0:29:18 the children of israel and we sent
0:29:19 apostles unto them but every time an
0:29:22 apostle came unto them with anything
0:29:24 that was not to their liking they
0:29:25 rebelled
0:29:26 to some of them we gave the lie
0:29:29 while others they would slay next
0:29:32 translation we made a covenant with the
0:29:34 children of israel and we sent
0:29:35 messengers to them every time a
0:29:37 messenger came to them with anything
0:29:39 that was not to their liking they
0:29:41 rebelled they accused some of lying and
0:29:43 others kill and kill the others yeah
0:29:45 understand the history just go to the
0:29:47 others i advise everyone to have as i
0:29:49 said a copy of the bible
0:29:51 if you want to nudge one from a hotel a
0:29:53 place where the gideon is okay i think
0:29:55 that they're intended that the people
0:29:56 will take them home okay no problem or
0:29:58 buy one it's cheap
0:30:00 one of the latest and good editions and
0:30:03 they're very nice printed and so on and
0:30:05 just go through adjustment just to have
0:30:06 an idea what's on there
0:30:08 you'll find when sometimes pages long
0:30:10 genealogies which is boring either you
0:30:12 enjoy that or jump over it okay that's
0:30:14 no problem
0:30:16 that's just history
0:30:17 but you will see many things of that
0:30:19 many
0:30:21 many examples of barely any any uh
0:30:25 apostle or messenger who come after musa
0:30:28 barely anyone maybe yeshua the son of
0:30:30 noon maybe you shall be known maybe this
0:30:33 one was that either and they were 40
0:30:35 years and
0:30:37 tested and cleaned in in the wilderness
0:30:40 and they were following him with
0:30:41 submission there was no rebellion really
0:30:43 that's in the early time but later on
0:30:46 even the time of the judges
0:30:48 where they were managed by prophets
0:30:50 there are plenty of rebellions and
0:30:52 problems something with them
0:30:53 and then the the rebellion against
0:30:56 somewhere and demanding a king allegedly
0:30:58 they want to do jihad or the result that
0:31:00 they would have their dispute between
0:31:02 various kings and and they would accuse
0:31:05 some kings over the worst kind of crimes
0:31:07 like
0:31:08 the
0:31:09 david
0:31:10 david party accused
0:31:13 saul with the nasty things under the
0:31:16 soul party who or
0:31:18 descended who controlled the northern
0:31:20 kingdom they accused the other with all
0:31:22 kinds of negative things and then
0:31:24 obviously both sides accused sudaiman of
0:31:27 being
0:31:28 being a magician and being a catherine
0:31:30 being idol worshipper so
0:31:38 rejecting prophets and accusing them of
0:31:40 revised accusations or if whatever
0:31:43 if ashima will they kill them
0:31:59 them and so they became blind death of
0:32:01 heart
0:32:02 thereafter god accepted their repentance
0:32:04 and again many of them became blind and
0:32:06 deaf
0:32:07 god sees all that they do next
0:32:09 translation think that they themselves
0:32:11 would not be harmed they became deaf
0:32:14 blind in death god turned to them in
0:32:17 mercy yet many of them again became
0:32:19 blind and deaf god sees everything they
0:32:22 do yeah so that's it so they they
0:32:25 they
0:32:26 they were blinded and some of them
0:32:28 repented not all of them but majority
0:32:30 may be repented and then again they
0:32:32 became blind and they came rejecting the
0:32:34 prophets or falsifying with the brothers
0:32:36 or even sometimes after the babylonic
0:32:38 exile
0:32:40 they didn't have enough power to to be
0:32:42 exercising killing anyone
0:32:44 uh or
0:32:46 so they are accusing the prophets of
0:32:48 lying
0:32:48 and but this was not very feasible
0:32:50 because they were subdued and hammered
0:32:52 by
0:32:54 the babylonian empire so they would they
0:32:56 became a little bit more we meek and so
0:32:58 on so what they do whatever they hear of
0:33:01 injection they twisted according to
0:33:02 their like so
0:33:05 the procedure of of killing was not
0:33:07 working anymore because they have no
0:33:08 kingdom left that they were ordered to
0:33:10 submit to pagan kings that's that's a
0:33:12 part of dilla and mask
0:33:15 joined on them not only in a creative
0:33:17 since but also in legalistic things
0:33:18 since like this natural character and
0:33:21 they claim that they are not allowed to
0:33:22 have a kingdom until the messiah comes
0:33:24 they are right that's the injunction of
0:33:26 of hakki and and the career the first
0:33:29 after the babylonian excited that you
0:33:30 should not rule you should submit to
0:33:32 vegan kings that's part of the
0:33:33 punishment and continuation of post
0:33:36 excited was probably unique excited
0:33:39 but then the the art of twisting that
0:33:41 what the prophets are saying or taking
0:33:42 some of it or recording only bit of it
0:33:45 leaving the rest and so on became
0:33:46 prevalent under them
0:33:48 they became the master of twisting the
0:33:50 revelation and reinterpreted it in the
0:33:52 wrong way
0:33:53 the halifal kaliman were there
0:33:56 then ultimately the final messengers who
0:33:58 came to them is isabel mariam and many
0:34:01 of them who follow the days after that
0:34:02 and the one followed they've been phoned
0:34:04 out of the
0:34:05 jewish realm although they were not
0:34:07 supposed because he was not addressing
0:34:08 those he was sending as he said even in
0:34:10 the gospel clearly i have been sent to
0:34:13 the lost chief of the for children of
0:34:15 israel not outside and those who joined
0:34:17 him as jews
0:34:19 but because of historic situation we are
0:34:21 not going to discuss now and paul taking
0:34:24 uh taking an odd view about isa so that
0:34:26 the the majority of the follower
0:34:29 and the disciples who were in jerusalem
0:34:31 decided okay did that guy work with the
0:34:33 gentile so we get rid of him and with
0:34:35 his headache as a matter of fact that
0:34:37 caused the catastrophe it spread more he
0:34:39 became really the gentile leader and
0:34:42 propagated his philosophies but anyway
0:34:45 here and there and that
0:34:47 came back
0:34:48 to those who are from jewish origin and
0:34:50 were talking are americans and later on
0:34:52 and just contaminated them with the same
0:34:54 disbelief which is mentioned in the next
0:34:55 ayah
0:34:58 this is also correct the point of view
0:34:59 that because some people may mistake
0:35:01 anything that prevent the eye obviously
0:35:04 they addressed the christian or the
0:35:05 nasara over now no it is
0:35:08 when they were used you know they
0:35:09 followed gaza and the same with the jews
0:35:11 there so the jews had me clarified that
0:35:13 even their history they have been
0:35:14 committed so many atrocities that
0:35:16 committed copper and tawba and covalent
0:35:18 alba so understand that in the correct
0:35:20 sense as i have explained
0:35:22 now it comes to the christian
0:35:24 and how they deviated then so those have
0:35:26 divided and said that they are not
0:35:28 genuinely nasara
0:35:43 been addressed in other places in the
0:35:44 quran sufficiently often
0:35:46 now it's the time to address the issue
0:35:48 the belief issue
0:35:49 which shows that they don't believe
0:35:51 really in allah their judgment those
0:35:53 who believe in the divinity
0:35:56 so allah
0:36:11 translation indeed the truth
0:36:14 they the truth deny they who say
0:36:18 behold god is the christ son of mary
0:36:21 seeing that the christ himself said o
0:36:24 children of israel worship god alone who
0:36:26 is my sustainer as well as your
0:36:28 sustainer behold whoever ascribes
0:36:31 divinity to any beside god unto him will
0:36:34 god deny paradise and his goal shall be
0:36:36 the fire
0:36:38 and such evil doers will have none to
0:36:40 secure them next translation
0:36:42 those who say god is the messiah son of
0:36:44 mary have defied god
0:36:47 the messiah himself said children of
0:36:49 israel worship god he is my lord as well
0:36:51 as your lord if anyone associated others
0:36:54 with god he will not permit them to
0:36:57 enter heaven their destiny will be hell
0:37:00 no one will
0:37:02 help such unjust people yeah and this is
0:37:04 this very clearly what it says so
0:37:07 if someone come with a i appreciate
0:37:10 before the previous one that the nasara
0:37:13 uh are saved and they are nice and so on
0:37:15 but uh forgetting that the the the
0:37:18 qualification who believes in allah the
0:37:20 same apprenticeship for the muslim by
0:37:21 the way just the labor is irritable but
0:37:23 as we said we do not really believe in
0:37:25 allah in the day of judgment
0:37:27 and make this but they are in vain they
0:37:29 are fooling themselves
0:37:30 and now clearly those who said that god
0:37:33 is the messiah son of maryam
0:37:36 or son of god and so on became a very
0:37:37 complicated philosophy
0:37:39 there are various forms and of of this
0:37:42 disbelief it represents itself in some
0:37:44 philosophical sophistication in various
0:37:45 forms but ultimate is that the messiah
0:37:47 is god or an ocean of god or part of god
0:37:51 or son of god or something is a divine
0:37:53 it's a divinity besides god but since
0:37:55 they cannot
0:37:57 reject the oneness of god which is so
0:37:59 pervasive in the old testament the
0:38:01 jewish tradition and so on they made the
0:38:03 three one and one and three and all
0:38:05 these acrobatic philosophical and
0:38:07 entertaining contradictory acrobatics so
0:38:09 ultimately it's god is a messiah's
0:38:11 almighty
0:38:12 and that's what is the early authority
0:38:14 says ultimately
0:38:16 while in reality and mr i said as in
0:38:18 that scripture just go to the gospel of
0:38:21 luke which seems to be the one who is
0:38:23 best composed and seems to be reflecting
0:38:26 history the best there's nowhere
0:38:28 anything hinting divinity of christ but
0:38:31 the same with mark except the opening
0:38:33 the title which is obviously not part of
0:38:35 the gospel this is the gospel that the
0:38:37 marx i start this the gospel of jesus
0:38:39 christ the son of god this is not part
0:38:41 of the gospel this is just a headline
0:38:43 this is the title of the book the book
0:38:45 writer gave it this title and the start
0:38:47 if you go through it no where anything
0:38:49 smells like divinity
0:38:51 there are a few things maybe could be
0:38:52 interpreted like the divinity in in in
0:38:55 matthew
0:38:58 clearly the the fourth one john is is
0:39:00 written by someone who believes in the
0:39:01 divinity of christ and he started with
0:39:03 with the uh making him divine and
0:39:06 obviously it contains such publications
0:39:08 and and impossible narratives which
0:39:10 makes it that they are discriminated in
0:39:12 historical times
0:39:14 it's sufficient just to go for example
0:39:16 the discussion between a leisure
0:39:17 discussion between lisa and pontius
0:39:19 pilates about what's good about goodness
0:39:21 philosophical destruction what's good
0:39:23 and evil
0:39:25 and we know from the other gospels
0:39:27 that's all all what was claimed is that
0:39:29 pontius pilate is claimed and this
0:39:30 muslims also publication uh this man
0:39:32 seems to be innocent i wash my hand they
0:39:34 have nothing to do with that which is
0:39:35 most likely a lie because
0:39:37 he could not be crucified without a
0:39:39 roman or that because
0:39:40 because gratification is is a german
0:39:42 order and clearly the accusation on the
0:39:44 cross jesus
0:39:46 rex code
0:39:49 jesus of nazareth the king of the jew
0:39:51 the mocking me has accused that he is
0:39:53 trying to establish a kingdom without
0:39:55 the permission of the or the roman
0:39:57 overlords and this is a crime punishable
0:39:59 obviously by crucifixion for the romans
0:40:02 is rebellion
0:40:04 so we clearly could not have watched it
0:40:06 and numbers there was no discussion all
0:40:08 the three gospels except that i don't
0:40:09 see anything in the wrong with this man
0:40:11 allegedly
0:40:13 and uh almost like it is fabricated to
0:40:16 put all the blame instead of the romans
0:40:17 on the jews only one they blame on both
0:40:19 no not all that is the believer who are
0:40:21 we really one alliance and one front at
0:40:23 that time
0:40:24 but if you go to john there's a long
0:40:26 discussion about philosophy of good and
0:40:28 evil and what's good what's evil etc
0:40:30 which is just laughable and things like
0:40:33 that enjoy
0:40:34 but even there someone could argue
0:40:38 divinity is not really established in a
0:40:40 forceful way
0:40:42 but for the three other ones it's
0:40:44 clearly especially look
0:40:46 if you if you look at it is all he's
0:40:49 just a great prophet
0:40:51 that's it you just read it through the
0:40:52 open eyes
0:40:54 so he never said that that's clearly
0:40:56 that is the case
0:40:58 and he said worship my lord and rule and
0:41:00 he many people they say i want to enter
0:41:02 the kingdom of he said if you want to
0:41:03 enter the kingdom then comply with the
0:41:05 commandments the ten commandments
0:41:08 especially the first one
0:41:09 listen israel our lord is one our god is
0:41:12 one god this is the fundamental one
0:41:14 otherwise you never enter him that's
0:41:16 exactly what he said in luke
0:41:20 so that's why she said you know we
0:41:21 should get
0:41:22 otherwise you will not enter will not
0:41:23 enter the kingdom of heaven
0:41:26 and if you don't enter the kingdom
0:41:27 everywhere you're going to the hellfire
0:41:28 that's it
0:41:31 and there will be no support nobody will
0:41:32 give you support nobody nobody is able
0:41:35 to confront god in this issue that's a
0:41:36 disappointment so that's those who say
0:41:39 that i've definitely denied the truth
0:41:41 and committed committed blasphemy and
0:41:43 committed insult to allah
0:41:46 and it was fabricated and lied
0:41:49 uh against jesus attributing him things
0:41:51 which he did not say but he manifestly
0:41:53 said the opposite
0:41:54 in their books not only by the testimony
0:41:56 of the quran
0:41:59 and then this is another form of this
0:42:01 allah is the messiah it comes in another
0:42:04 sophisticated form more philosophically
0:42:07 obviously impossible it's internally
0:42:09 contradictory but it is but that it has
0:42:12 been the the way they they try to unify
0:42:17 pagan
0:42:18 attribution of divinity to isa with the
0:42:21 that was being got only one one entity
0:42:24 so they developed this confidentiality
0:42:26 now you actually address this
0:42:28 this also come from
0:42:42 indeed the truth they
0:42:44 the traits of them
0:42:46 indeed the truth deny they who say
0:42:49 behold god is the third of a trinity
0:42:52 saying that there is no deity whatever
0:42:54 save one let's say the one god and
0:42:56 unless they desist from their assertion
0:42:59 grievous suffering is bound to befall
0:43:01 such of them as our bent on denying the
0:43:03 truth next translation
0:43:05 those who say god is the third of a
0:43:07 trinity and denying the truth because
0:43:09 there is only one god
0:43:11 unless they stop saying this a painful
0:43:13 punishment will happen to those of them
0:43:15 who are determined to deny the truth
0:43:18 so the trinity is essentially elected
0:43:19 following impossible contradiction
0:43:22 it says
0:43:24 the sun
0:43:25 is not the father
0:43:27 and the father is not the holy spirit
0:43:30 none of them is equal to the other
0:43:33 but the son is god
0:43:35 allah
0:43:36 not the father but allah and the holy
0:43:38 spirit is allah so it's three in one one
0:43:41 one entity which has three faces that's
0:43:43 that's caused headache for their
0:43:44 philosophers the best attempt to
0:43:47 philosophize that was from saint
0:43:48 augustine and essentially it ends they
0:43:51 call it a monarchic point of view which
0:43:52 is really not a point of view that most
0:43:54 of them advocate monarchy point three
0:43:56 essentially monarchy is only actually
0:43:58 one entity but three phases
0:44:01 in the in in in in graphic depictions
0:44:03 and artwork sometimes they show three
0:44:05 persons sitting on a chair
0:44:08 that's one way of depiction another uh
0:44:11 that which means the three differences
0:44:13 so this is the father in the middle and
0:44:15 the son to the right
0:44:16 and from the one watching and the uh and
0:44:21 the holy spirit to the left
0:44:23 and if you go to some churches you find
0:44:25 for example in the stained glass in the
0:44:27 long window there you find in the middle
0:44:30 uh in the middle uh it's a little bit
0:44:32 higher because it has like a like a like
0:44:34 a paramedic shape in the top and there's
0:44:36 a crown that's uh
0:44:39 represented the father that's the crown
0:44:41 to its right on this left from you as
0:44:44 we're looking through it is right is a
0:44:46 lamb
0:44:47 lamb represent the sacrificial lamb
0:44:51 the sun not isa is actually a
0:44:53 composition of this and some kind of a
0:44:54 human entity and then to the left is a
0:44:57 is a is a white dope that's the holy
0:44:59 spirit the presentation of it and in
0:45:02 this the quran is a little bit above the
0:45:04 two so they are lower
0:45:07 so
0:45:08 the attempt even to represent that
0:45:10 graphically is rather impossible
0:45:12 because according to the
0:45:14 most accepted pronunciation of the
0:45:16 trinity is that the son is not the
0:45:18 father yes different than the father and
0:45:20 the father is not the son and the father
0:45:22 is not the holy spirit the holy spirit
0:45:23 is not about the holy spirit is not the
0:45:25 son the son is not the holy spirit but
0:45:27 all of them are god
0:45:28 and this is only one
0:45:31 so saint augustine was maybe the most
0:45:34 acceptable saying it's actually one
0:45:35 entity with different faces like a cube
0:45:38 or like a pyramid or something like that
0:45:42 or like a triangle with three edges
0:45:46 but this is also does not fit because
0:45:48 the triangle is consisting of three
0:45:50 edges is another entity that the edges
0:45:54 so you cannot say that that the
0:45:55 hypotenuse is there is the triangle no
0:45:57 it's part of the triangle this again is
0:45:59 no but they claim it's not about it is
0:46:01 him somehow so even the presentation of
0:46:03 south augustine did not save the day and
0:46:06 still they didn't accept that they
0:46:07 caught monarchic it's not really protein
0:46:09 that's probably trinity
0:46:12 so that's not that training which is
0:46:13 just an impossible construct which is
0:46:16 has
0:46:16 has
0:46:17 caused most christianity who are
0:46:20 starting to think to develop from
0:46:21 christianity because this is simply not
0:46:22 acceptable there's no way it works like
0:46:24 it can work it's originally impossible
0:46:26 others are
0:46:32 have been discussed uh all of them in in
0:46:35 uh in the stanford institute of
0:46:37 philosophy just write stanford explore
0:46:40 trinity then you get the article there
0:46:42 in google and you see that
0:46:45 they they mentioned i think 12 or 14 if
0:46:47 i'm not mistaken i think i think 14 14
0:46:49 various interpretation
0:46:51 13 of them are outright
0:46:53 manifestly and irrational and
0:46:55 contradicting fundamental principle of
0:46:57 logic the principle of identity
0:46:59 principle it is a equal b meaning a and
0:47:01 b are equal you cannot make a equal b
0:47:03 and b is different than a at the same
0:47:05 time equals that's impossible that will
0:47:06 undermine the basic things of reason
0:47:08 will it will mean contradiction are
0:47:10 possible and you could as well don't say
0:47:12 god does not exist and existed that was
0:47:14 just a complete absurdity
0:47:16 the for the one one seems to be not
0:47:19 contradicting god directly but can be
0:47:20 refuted i was planning to attend to that
0:47:23 in some time but i left it for for it's
0:47:26 a good time it's not a priority because
0:47:28 that other one must be also having some
0:47:30 another absolutely not necessarily on
0:47:31 the level of the principle of identity
0:47:33 but maybe a little bit deeper one step
0:47:35 further
0:47:37 so that's this one but that's that's a
0:47:39 matter of rationality but in the matter
0:47:41 of that claim attributing to allah is an
0:47:43 act of quran statement or quran allah
0:47:45 said those who say that they have
0:47:46 committed comfort they have committed
0:47:48 blasphemy they have been something
0:47:50 because they attribute to him something
0:47:51 which is impossible that does not fit
0:47:53 with his is his own
0:47:56 real nature and the real real uh
0:47:59 attributes
0:48:01 but necessary the existing eternal being
0:48:04 cannot be like this
0:48:07 and there's no no divine being except
0:48:08 one
0:48:10 one in one there's no three in one or
0:48:12 two and one says
0:48:14 and if they're none of that they are
0:48:16 threatened if they don't cease from that
0:48:18 and desist from this statement in time
0:48:20 past maybe they were excused by being
0:48:22 misled by being confused by being
0:48:24 following their scribes and so on but
0:48:27 now the clarification has come
0:48:29 then
0:48:30 they are genuinely clever who have
0:48:32 rejected the revelation and the
0:48:33 instruction coming from their
0:48:35 clarification and
0:48:37 these who commit cover and disbelieve
0:48:39 they will be facing severe punishment
0:48:43 and an invitation for them to repent and
0:48:45 leave this
0:48:55 Music
0:49:01 not then
0:49:03 turn towards god in repentance and ask
0:49:05 his forgiveness for god is much
0:49:07 forgiving a dispenser of grace next
0:49:09 translation
0:49:10 why do they never turn him towards god
0:49:12 in repentance and ask for his
0:49:14 forgiveness god is most forgiving and
0:49:16 merciful to all yeah that's that's this
0:49:18 if they really believe that allah they
0:49:20 have judgment and they want to have the
0:49:21 benefit of the ayah saying that their
0:49:23 good deeds will be counted for them then
0:49:25 they should just start step number one
0:49:27 repenting from these wrong statements
0:49:30 which by order the belief in allah
0:49:31 because i believe allah should be
0:49:33 allah as he is not as you imagine or he
0:49:35 is used some church councils are met by
0:49:38 by majority of one or two concluded
0:49:40 something no by what's dictated by the
0:49:42 assistive reason and what was what
0:49:43 dictated by scripture taking as a whole
0:49:46 the whole read in the scripture not one
0:49:48 statement here
0:49:50 even there's nothing about trendy except
0:49:52 the margin note which entered in one of
0:49:54 the books i don't remember each one
0:49:55 until i said that that baptized the
0:49:57 people in the name of the father and the
0:49:59 son of the holy spirit does not mean
0:50:00 even the trinity when this was even a
0:50:03 marginal note which is kept in the book
0:50:05 that's all what's there
0:50:06 which has anything smelling close to any
0:50:08 training or anything and has nothing to
0:50:10 do that god is that this deity it's just
0:50:12 in this name in the name of the father
0:50:14 yeah and the and the son the adopted son
0:50:17 isa and the holy spirit no problem
0:50:20 and the name of this trick that doesn't
0:50:22 seem to be indicating that these are
0:50:24 necessary
0:50:27 there's no issue there
0:50:30 there's not indicating that god is
0:50:31 trinity or something like that
0:50:33 but this is the only thing which you
0:50:35 have anything smelling like a trinity
0:50:37 from far away except this one which is
0:50:40 itself an original note creaming the
0:50:42 scripture imagine
0:50:44 so you should go scan the whole
0:50:46 scripture and see what is the core there
0:50:48 about the divine being the core is that
0:50:50 what has been told to musa i am the one
0:50:52 who i am the one who exists from
0:50:54 eternity
0:50:55 the necessarily existing
0:50:58 your ancient
0:50:59 name the the strong goddess
0:51:03 now i give myself a new name
0:51:06 jehovah
0:51:08 who is who or something like that most
0:51:10 likely that's the best translation for
0:51:11 it
0:51:13 that's it later on a name will develop
0:51:15 and construct which is named allah
0:51:17 coming from
0:51:18 and became
0:51:19 the
0:51:19 god and then was merged together in
0:51:21 allah and there's still many christians
0:51:26 the muslims believe in that and and
0:51:27 their god is called allah
0:51:29 if they go just to aramaic
0:51:32 that's that's that's exactly and it's
0:51:34 actually they don't need to go to
0:51:35 aramaic the alleged screaming of the
0:51:37 scholars
0:51:41 why did you forsaken me
0:51:43 understand that
0:51:45 these people are so so badly informed
0:51:48 about their own scriptures is
0:51:49 unbelievable so why they don't repent
0:51:51 and they just go to the common ground
0:51:53 and the core
0:51:55 of all these scriptures and then this
0:51:57 all this is gone all these three
0:51:58 individual this focus box is finished
0:52:00 and you don't need to worry about it
0:52:02 i don't need to worry about that but
0:52:04 unfortunately this is not happening
0:52:06 anytime soon
0:52:08 then what is what's the messiah the son
0:52:11 of man what is he is he's a divine being
0:52:13 is what is it it's a pure human being
0:52:15 he's a messenger of god the next
0:52:29 the christ son of mary was not an
0:52:31 apostle all other apostles had passed
0:52:34 away before him and his mother was one
0:52:37 who never deviated from the truth and
0:52:39 they both ate food like other mortals in
0:52:41 brackets behold now behold how clear we
0:52:44 make these messages onto them and then
0:52:46 behold how perverted are their minds
0:52:48 yeah next translation
0:52:51 the messiah son of mary was only a
0:52:53 messenger all other messengers had
0:52:55 passed away before him and his mother
0:52:58 was one who never deviated from the
0:52:59 truth they both ate food see how clear
0:53:02 we make these messages for them and how
0:53:05 deluded their minds are
0:53:07 yeah so
0:53:08 so the messiah son of man i will comment
0:53:10 on myself sometimes
0:53:12 i mess up
0:53:14 one of the reasons of that
0:53:16 he's just a messenger like enemies he's
0:53:18 definitely a very high ranking messenger
0:53:20 having extremely high rank one of the
0:53:22 biggest messengers in history of the
0:53:24 highest ranking minister university
0:53:26 but he is still a messenger human being
0:53:28 and messenger before him died and he
0:53:30 also died or lifted to heaven whatever
0:53:32 they will die in the future he comes
0:53:34 back and ultimately he's a human being
0:53:36 and his mother is translated that for
0:53:39 family
0:53:40 committed
0:53:44 uh
0:53:46 convention for what the ancient people
0:53:48 call holly she is a holy woman this is a
0:53:51 kadis and the previous scripture is
0:53:53 translated in quran and used
0:53:56 holy man of completely pure and above
0:53:59 reproach
0:54:01 and they both were eating waiting food
0:54:03 so they need food for cesareans their
0:54:05 physical bodies
0:54:07 see how they we show them the ayah the
0:54:09 signs and see how they are being
0:54:12 taken away because
0:54:14 how they are taken away they say ah
0:54:15 actually
0:54:17 you have two two theories about teresa
0:54:19 what is elisa
0:54:21 one one one is the reality that he is a
0:54:23 human being that's what's happened to
0:54:24 the people building sort of even your
0:54:27 claim that he was crucified and
0:54:28 screaming the cross show that he's
0:54:30 purely human now but they claim the
0:54:32 messiah is somehow divine so how to get
0:54:36 out of this fix there are two theories
0:54:37 there
0:54:38 one theory was with sub theories one
0:54:41 theory is that the divine
0:54:44 entity the the christ the heavenly
0:54:46 christ merged with the uh with the with
0:54:49 the
0:54:50 with the with the body uh of of uh human
0:54:54 elisa so they become one one nature one
0:54:57 entity one will
0:54:58 completely
0:55:00 or set it differently the divine entity
0:55:03 was called the messiah the heavenly
0:55:05 thing the sun or something like that
0:55:06 that oculum
0:55:08 turned into flesh which is rationally
0:55:10 impossible that's not possible this is
0:55:11 not even accessible to divine power
0:55:13 because it's impossibility if it's a
0:55:14 weather accessible non-good could exist
0:55:16 or not at the same time
0:55:18 but the the one thing that the church of
0:55:20 egypt was uh true to you to which belong
0:55:23 the
0:55:23 abyssinian also the indian churches
0:55:25 which were established in ancient times
0:55:27 through the abyssinian through the trade
0:55:29 routes and also i think that i think
0:55:31 they called monophysique
0:55:34 many physicists or something that they
0:55:36 also i think the armenian also belong to
0:55:38 this this and some also uh syrian
0:55:40 churches and so on they called
0:55:42 monophysical yakubi
0:55:44 the the argument for that said if it is
0:55:46 not so if the
0:55:48 pain and the suffering did not fill on
0:55:50 the divine also then the sacrifice does
0:55:53 not make any sense
0:55:55 that's what the jews who claim that
0:55:56 jesus has two nations and two and two
0:56:00 and and two wills uh and the one who's
0:56:03 screaming the cross and suffering is the
0:56:04 human one so the human who has suffered
0:56:06 the woman has been sacrificed the divine
0:56:08 is untouched so what of us
0:56:10 what of us
0:56:12 why the divine not come in the first
0:56:13 place if he didn't suffer anything it
0:56:15 must be the divine one somebody
0:56:16 otherwise the atonement does not make
0:56:18 any sense
0:56:20 they get they save the atonement
0:56:22 according to their faulty philosophy by
0:56:25 by uh
0:56:26 by
0:56:27 accepting an impossibility of the divine
0:56:30 becoming fresh and really suffering and
0:56:32 suffering pain
0:56:33 the other one that's the catholic church
0:56:35 and also protestant and so on
0:56:38 and also the russian orthodox that the
0:56:40 roman orthodoxy they're all three
0:56:42 italian and they have old two or two
0:56:44 natures
0:56:45 of christ they say no there's the human
0:56:48 there's the human
0:56:50 isa and there's the christ the heavenly
0:56:52 christ and the hebrew christ is entered
0:56:54 in the body of israel like the spirit in
0:56:56 the body or like or they say the other
0:56:58 example like putting oil in a bottle the
0:57:01 bottle is there that's the human racer
0:57:04 and the oil is the spirit but there's
0:57:06 two civil identities under with the
0:57:08 spirit has its own will and also what
0:57:10 mind and the body has its own will and
0:57:12 mind
0:57:13 because that impossibility of the
0:57:15 mergers is blatantly clear
0:57:18 but then question
0:57:20 who then who the one suffered on the
0:57:21 cross
0:57:22 and who claimed that god sacrificed his
0:57:24 son because the son was not sacrificed
0:57:26 only sacrificed and suffered pain and
0:57:28 was flogged and spread in his face
0:57:30 allegedly is the human one
0:57:32 the spirit was removed from that it was
0:57:34 not touched
0:57:36 so the issue of atonement makes no sense
0:57:38 that but this this because the rational
0:57:41 impossibility of the other one has has
0:57:43 become the more dominant point of view
0:57:45 and they are prosecuting they are kobe
0:57:48 and there are some categories of that
0:57:50 one subcutaneous secretary but it got
0:57:52 extinct
0:57:56 said i try to bring these two together
0:57:58 he said okay
0:57:59 actually i think what he said is that
0:58:02 is that uh
0:58:04 christ is actually
0:58:06 having two natures and one will or two
0:58:09 or one nature and two wheels i don't
0:58:10 remember which one it is and both sides
0:58:13 declared him through a catheter and
0:58:14 condemned him so he did not solve the
0:58:16 problem
0:58:17 under the trinitarian
0:58:19 one which is maybe not any i don't know
0:58:21 exactly what the historians say they say
0:58:24 actually
0:58:25 they objected to the claim that that
0:58:27 marijuan can be called mother of god
0:58:30 mother of god god's mother
0:58:33 because they say actually she did not
0:58:35 carry any any divine being in her belly
0:58:37 there was nothing was not born no no
0:58:40 divine being came down and
0:58:42 and immersed in the body of isa on the
0:58:44 baptism by beijing the baptist then
0:58:46 according to a scripture some kind of
0:58:48 white
0:58:50 white top came down and entered the race
0:58:52 and that's the one and that's adaptation
0:58:54 he became the christ before that he's
0:58:56 just a very human so his mother never
0:58:58 okay was never carrying a divine being
0:59:01 and she'll certainly be called the
0:59:02 mother of god and calling her mother of
0:59:04 god is actually paganism and obviously
0:59:06 he prosecuted him and iran and his
0:59:08 followers under the persian protection
0:59:10 that survived there and they think that
0:59:12 surely in church in an iraqi woman who
0:59:14 has taken his stimulant in that
0:59:16 sense so that's that's the all that
0:59:19 confusion because they they they they
0:59:22 over praised him taking him out of the
0:59:24 realm of the creation into the name of
0:59:26 the creator of the dividability and the
0:59:28 new ending never ending contradictions
0:59:30 and impossibilities the reality is very
0:59:32 simple he's a messenger like anybody
0:59:34 else
0:59:35 who died before him and his mother is a
0:59:37 holy woman sadika
0:59:39 they used to eat food that's all what is
0:59:42 there that's what you see is that what
0:59:43 you get
0:59:45 and see how simple things are we are
0:59:47 showing them and still they are
0:59:49 indulging in in
0:59:51 esoteric uh metaphysical speculation
0:59:54 which makes no sense whatever you turn
0:59:56 it it doesn't make any sense whatever
0:59:58 you do it is just absolutely no it's not
0:59:59 going to work
1:00:03 and then since that's his nature how can
1:00:06 you make him divine
1:00:08 because he is a human being he cannot
1:00:10 benefit you can have any
1:00:27 say would you worship beside god or that
1:00:30 has no power either to harm or to
1:00:32 benefit you when god alone is all
1:00:34 hearing all knowing next translation say
1:00:36 how can you worship something other than
1:00:38 god that has no power to harm or benefit
1:00:40 or to benefit you when god alone is all
1:00:42 hearing or knowing
1:00:44 obviously someone will answer oh no
1:00:46 we're not questioning anything beside
1:00:47 god there shall be god himself god
1:00:48 himself
1:00:49 we go back back to
1:00:51 the first one but then you get to the
1:00:54 same problem what what has appeared in
1:00:55 the world is obviously a human being so
1:00:58 let's combine that and we go again in
1:00:59 the issue of two natures and two wills
1:01:01 and all these issues again and then how
1:01:03 to fix it in in the metaphysical by the
1:01:05 trinity and we grow in every ending
1:01:07 never-ending
1:01:09 cycle because you have departed this
1:01:11 plane symbol straightforward facts and
1:01:14 entered into a metaphysical nonsense
1:01:16 which has no no reason whatsoever
1:01:19 and no grounding whatsoever
1:01:21 and thus all has become because
1:01:23 exaggerating and honoring him and
1:01:25 respecting him and loving him
1:01:26 excessively and taking him out of the
1:01:28 creation
1:01:29 into the creator or the dividing that's
1:01:32 the reason why it develops
1:01:34 and the whole theory of atonement has
1:01:36 been developed to make sense of how come
1:01:39 that the son of god or the such a divine
1:01:41 higher
1:01:42 high personality like that suffers on
1:01:44 the cross uh to save us from the
1:01:46 original sin
1:01:47 and then making allah is unable to
1:01:49 forgive the sins just on his own grounds
1:01:52 making and developing a theory of
1:01:53 justice by saint augustine which is
1:01:55 manifestly absurd
1:01:57 or
1:01:58 uh or an earlier theory was that to save
1:02:01 the world from the clashes of the devil
1:02:02 this way that they will become almost
1:02:04 equal to allah in power so allah has to
1:02:06 sacrifice his son to make a deal with
1:02:07 the devil so he has to make devil so the
1:02:09 devil is
1:02:10 equal in power to allah whatever you get
1:02:13 out of this situation you get yourself
1:02:15 in another contradiction and
1:02:16 possibilities and that's how paul said
1:02:18 works the moment you start with a
1:02:20 falsehood especially in fundamental
1:02:22 things that would be related to
1:02:23 necessity of reason assistive existence
1:02:26 you and the never ending nightmare
1:02:29 a never ending nightmare that's it
1:02:32 so then the destroy people don't
1:02:35 succeed in praising someone don't go
1:02:37 overboard with your with your devotion
1:02:39 and believe
1:02:41 it
1:02:46 or not
1:02:53 of the gospel do not overstep the bounds
1:02:55 of truth in your religious beliefs and
1:02:58 do not follow the errant views of
1:02:59 peoples who have gone a straight before
1:03:02 time
1:03:03 and have led many others astray and are
1:03:05 still straying from the right path next
1:03:07 translation say people of the book do
1:03:09 not overstep the bounds of truth in your
1:03:11 religious beliefs do not follow the
1:03:13 whims of people who went astray before
1:03:15 you they have led many others astray and
1:03:18 they continue to stray from the right
1:03:19 path yeah that's it so is it that
1:03:22 that's the exceeding the limit in
1:03:24 devotion and belief
1:03:27 devotion divorce devotion to issa and
1:03:29 feeling the pain that he
1:03:31 apparently was not successful and were
1:03:32 taken away from the people it be by
1:03:34 crucifixion or by death or resurrection
1:03:36 whatever it is
1:03:37 that motivates them to blow him out of
1:03:40 proportion
1:03:41 and as the roman record against them
1:03:44 which is obviously
1:03:45 a fallacy but that's that's what the
1:03:47 roman wave i'm thinking they sing on him
1:03:49 him as if he's a god etc
1:03:54 but in that they're following the
1:03:56 desires and the misconception of people
1:03:57 who have been misguided before and has
1:03:59 miscarried many people what is what is
1:04:01 really because at the time
1:04:03 the the
1:04:05 the
1:04:06 the zaroson
1:04:08 their social came and was maybe possibly
1:04:11 a true prophet we don't know is that a
1:04:13 prophet or
1:04:14 or a pretender prophethood
1:04:16 stressed the role of the devil
1:04:19 that's the illest assassin
1:04:20 later on the people developed that
1:04:23 try to understand the issue of evil and
1:04:25 and good and the issue of qadha and so
1:04:26 on and then
1:04:28 they constructed it as a fight between
1:04:30 god and the devil
1:04:32 some branch made the devil even almost a
1:04:34 divine being and the struggle goes from
1:04:36 eternity to
1:04:39 that's called enthusiasm
1:04:40 another say no no it is a created being
1:04:42 but somehow after creation he rebelled
1:04:44 and became equal to power in allah which
1:04:46 is also contradictory not possible so
1:04:48 all of these things
1:04:50 to solve the problem with good and evil
1:04:51 and then religious secret religions
1:04:54 emerged around the time of christ or
1:04:55 before like mithra isma's own who tried
1:04:58 to solve a problem by claiming that the
1:05:00 good god
1:05:01 the light
1:05:04 needed to sacrifice his son who appears
1:05:07 like a bull
1:05:09 the sacrificial bull
1:05:11 that one
1:05:12 to
1:05:13 get humanity in his side or save
1:05:15 humanity that's the original idea of
1:05:17 secretary that's
1:05:18 man the previous secret religions before
1:05:21 before christ like century or started
1:05:23 emerging essentially and became like
1:05:25 fashionable in the roman empire because
1:05:28 around the time christ or before it may
1:05:29 be 50 60 years the roman empire is
1:05:31 speaking
1:05:32 spreading it was in england it was yuri
1:05:35 says that came here
1:05:37 it was it was up to palestine and
1:05:39 nothing called slovak east except the
1:05:41 persian empire and that's it in africa
1:05:43 that does not stop them that's it so all
1:05:45 the populated relevant world was under
1:05:47 their
1:05:48 control and then
1:05:51 obviously
1:05:52 the civilization development and taxes
1:05:54 and so on
1:05:56 led to a great glory of romans on other
1:05:58 people were relaxed and they were
1:05:59 developing then obviously philosophical
1:06:01 thoughts and so on when the people are
1:06:03 sufficiently well fed and so on they
1:06:04 start speculating about philosophy and
1:06:06 good and evil things that and
1:06:08 starting at that time then this secret
1:06:10 religion emerged methodism et cetera et
1:06:12 cetera which has essentially a
1:06:14 sacrificial theory like that like the
1:06:16 atonement of the christian one and all
1:06:18 historic evidence show that is india
1:06:19 ahead is it is christianity and paul
1:06:22 importing that from matheraism not the
1:06:24 opposite and there are other similar
1:06:26 theories also with penetrating jew jews
1:06:28 before christ etc so all of that works
1:06:32 together
1:06:33 to present as for the many people like
1:06:35 relatively attractive theory
1:06:38 about good and evil
1:06:39 and how god is so kind and loving and
1:06:41 try to save them from that and so on
1:06:43 just just to make sense of the reality
1:06:46 because they don't have the genuine
1:06:48 theory of what it doesn't mean really
1:06:50 which we have discussed in other places
1:06:52 so
1:06:54 these are the falsehoods were followed
1:06:55 by the people so this together with the
1:06:57 extreme devotion to isa merged together
1:06:59 in all these trinity sacrificial lamb
1:07:02 the lamb who's sacrificed for the
1:07:04 foundation of the world all of these
1:07:06 things it is obviously a more structured
1:07:09 discussion if necessary but this is a
1:07:11 matter of like life studies arcade and
1:07:13 theology not here
1:07:15 but
1:07:16 suffice to go that
1:07:18 infinite system existing is there and
1:07:20 must be there because otherwise no no
1:07:22 existence would be whatsoever
1:07:26 and then this one is you one unique not
1:07:28 splittable not a trinity no and if it is
1:07:31 if he's acting by three by three would
1:07:33 which by says that he absolute freedom
1:07:35 otherwise he says it's just a nature a
1:07:37 dead thousand then his his choices are
1:07:40 ultimate and dictated by his own
1:07:42 rationale
1:07:43 and he shows a universe which is like
1:07:45 structured like this one because this
1:07:46 one is the four from his point of view
1:07:48 is the most perfect one which
1:07:51 brings beings who have a free will and
1:07:53 can make good and evil
1:07:55 purely and completely by their own will
1:07:58 and choice by power given by him and
1:08:00 this in entails necessarily that we have
1:08:03 what we see in the universe and this
1:08:04 cannot be otherwise it has to be like
1:08:06 that
1:08:07 if this choice is made shows of freedom
1:08:10 of free agent
1:08:11 create a free agent and the creator is
1:08:13 absolutely free agent that's the
1:08:15 explanation that's the other there's no
1:08:17 feather that's right that's absolutely
1:08:18 zero point
1:08:20 but the people were not developed at
1:08:21 that level yet at that level uh
1:08:24 to that level yet just fine no problem
1:08:26 but they instead of understanding what
1:08:29 the messenger is told them instead of
1:08:31 that they exaggerated things and make
1:08:32 him that the sacrificial lamp
1:08:34 so don't follow the desires of these
1:08:36 people who are misguided and that all
1:08:38 these claims are have been said before
1:08:39 it is it is not new it is not new even
1:08:42 if you can't find elements of that even
1:08:44 going to the ancient egyptian about
1:08:46 horus and jesus and others the elements
1:08:49 of that are still already there so it's
1:08:51 a it's not like some christian
1:08:52 philosophy claim this is unique to the
1:08:54 world there was never nobody thought
1:08:56 about that no it was somebody
1:08:58 similar theories were rampant i think
1:08:59 about about buddha even most likely
1:09:01 before christianity it is most likely
1:09:04 the divination of buddha precedes
1:09:06 christianity
1:09:08 also the divination of krishna and rama
1:09:11 precede christianity most likely
1:09:12 although we don't have irrefutable
1:09:14 evidence that they are not important
1:09:16 from clinical society but all indication
1:09:18 is that they are ancient more ancient
1:09:20 than christianity so christianity is
1:09:22 just education of pauline christian they
1:09:24 really adopted this idea from mithraism
1:09:27 from eastern mystery religions
1:09:29 and and possibly some import from
1:09:31 egyptian and so on so this is the desire
1:09:34 following the desires and the
1:09:36 speculations of people who have been
1:09:38 misguided in time past and misguided
1:09:40 peoples and they're still misguided
1:09:41 until today
1:09:44 so that's that's that's the clarifying
1:09:46 the situation so that's don't
1:09:48 go into extreme with your devotion and
1:09:50 love to esa and don't follow the claims
1:09:52 and desires of people who have been
1:09:54 misguided in time for us as well and
1:09:56 this is all important from outside
1:09:58 it's even to an extreme that like for
1:10:00 example
1:10:08 he believed he went to such an extreme
1:10:11 in in issue of divinity of christ and
1:10:13 the issue of good and evil and so on to
1:10:15 the extreme that even the old testament
1:10:17 and musa and so on they are sent by the
1:10:18 devil
1:10:20 all of these previous prophets are
1:10:21 satanic are the village only is the true
1:10:24 good god coming from the son of the
1:10:27 real god of lightning obviously the
1:10:29 electrician even the pauline could not
1:10:31 swallow that and the declarations were
1:10:33 alienating and condemned him and cursed
1:10:35 him because this means the whole old
1:10:37 testament is gone
1:10:38 if it is the revelation of the devil
1:10:40 then how can we then construct anything
1:10:42 about isa making any sense because all
1:10:44 his statements about that he's coming
1:10:46 from that island and he's confirming the
1:10:48 previous scripture and he's just doing a
1:10:51 little bit of obligations and so on so
1:10:53 this
1:10:54 this will contradict the scriptures so
1:10:55 blatantly and in an unbelievable way
1:10:58 but it was it emerged emerged at the end
1:11:01 of the first century i said because mark
1:11:03 lewin i think died hundred thirty so
1:11:05 most of us is developing this one must
1:11:07 have been the beginning of the second
1:11:09 century so quite close to a sister 100
1:11:11 years after we have already such a very
1:11:14 radical
1:11:15 satanic theory and it comes from time to
1:11:17 time like for example the grandfather of
1:11:19 bosh of bush
1:11:22 who is a missionary and so on he said
1:11:25 who said that muhammad is not a prophet
1:11:26 he's definitely a prophet that is a
1:11:28 prophet of the devil the devil has
1:11:29 inspired him to undermine the son of god
1:11:32 and so on
1:11:33 so the same thing though if the devil
1:11:36 hadn't said it then he should be also
1:11:38 with the old testament is a satanic
1:11:41 revelation
1:11:43 so he's coming close to makion
1:11:45 so the this theory is coming back again
1:11:47 and again and again
1:11:49 the moment you made that
1:11:50 you made the point that
1:11:53 the devotion and the praise of isa to
1:11:55 deliver that is a divine
1:11:57 and the real good god loving god then
1:12:00 you are done that you cannot get out of
1:12:02 this never-ending contradiction
1:12:04 but we don't know that we are not going
1:12:05 to discuss these philosophical issues
1:12:07 this maybe needs its own series of
1:12:09 discussion and so on the way to define
1:12:11 points but that's how it developed
1:12:13 historically
1:12:15 this this going into extreme and
1:12:17 devotion to isa
1:12:18 and adopting
1:12:20 theories and speculation of previous
1:12:22 misguided people who was indulged in the
1:12:25 issue of good and evil qatar this devil
1:12:28 god etc contradiction all of these
1:12:30 things
1:12:32 but also
1:12:33 not only the christians now with them he
1:12:35 comes the christian because it was the
1:12:36 elect like the prophet saws going back
1:12:38 to the bani israel
1:12:41 and and uh how their how how much
1:12:43 misguidance they were doing and so on so
1:12:45 they they should not claim up because we
1:12:46 are jews we are saved and so on no
1:12:48 that's not true that's not true
1:12:59 those of the children of israel who are
1:13:00 bent on denying the truth have already
1:13:02 been cursed by the tongue of david and
1:13:05 of jesus the son of mary
1:13:07 this because they rebelled against god
1:13:09 and persisted in transgressing the
1:13:11 bounds of what is right
1:13:13 as translation those of the children of
1:13:15 israel who defied god and denied the
1:13:16 truth have been cursed and rejected by
1:13:18 the words of david and jesus the son of
1:13:20 mary because they rebelled and
1:13:22 persistently overstepped the limits
1:13:25 so the the the cares of those
1:13:26 disbeliever and the under the bani
1:13:28 israel and those who judaised and
1:13:30 followed them and
1:13:32 followed the father because that is to
1:13:34 have been split in believing and
1:13:35 disbelieving factions various factions
1:13:38 and those who
1:13:39 embrace judaism on the faction of the
1:13:41 disbeliever became also jews but only
1:13:43 with with with the defective and and
1:13:46 then and and
1:13:48 and wrong creeds etc but this is ancient
1:13:51 it's the time of david when is david
1:13:52 david is before christ maybe a thousand
1:13:54 years yeah because all historic
1:13:57 synchronization and facts and so on
1:13:59 indicates that david was about
1:14:02 maybe a thousand before christ
1:14:04 because i think uh we have some
1:14:06 evidences that uh
1:14:08 sulaiman built a temple and died like
1:14:10 nine
1:14:11 is it 960 or 940 bc something like that
1:14:14 so david is before him uh a few decades
1:14:17 that says a thousand so thousand years
1:14:18 before christ ordered the rebellious
1:14:20 uncovered in bani israel
1:14:23 and at that time they did not spread the
1:14:24 sufficient in the earth and there's not
1:14:26 many people who are judaized from
1:14:28 outside banisteries so this the jews
1:14:30 were essentially banished
1:14:31 obviously some people cannot die and
1:14:33 people from iraq considered to join them
1:14:35 even when even coming from egypt they
1:14:37 said the family somebody is an iraqi man
1:14:40 who joined them and so on so there were
1:14:41 few non-listed non-israeli that none
1:14:43 descended from israel with them which
1:14:45 became jews and so on but overall
1:14:48 of israel
1:14:50 and the
1:14:51 number of factions of them rebelled and
1:14:53 became catholic and were condemned and
1:14:55 cursed and the trunk of the darwood
1:14:58 and there is important historic factor
1:15:00 to go back and check with the old
1:15:01 testament and all these things and see
1:15:03 what happens in that time with that
1:15:05 would and actually maybe there was a bit
1:15:07 of rebellion before that but the
1:15:09 manifest one and the major spirit
1:15:11 started in the time of dawood and then
1:15:13 continued with with all the killing of
1:15:15 the prophets and calling the liars and
1:15:17 so on until the time raised maria
1:15:22 that's they will curse because of their
1:15:23 disobedience and rebellion
1:15:27 before that
1:15:28 it doesn't say
1:15:31 why first of all there
1:15:34 in the discussion is the issue that is
1:15:35 the messiah the heavenly one the savior
1:15:38 one the word messiah means that
1:15:41 actually the messiah is actually the
1:15:42 anointed one but they the anointed one
1:15:45 as anointed as a prophet or are noted as
1:15:48 a king here
1:15:49 they added to the meaning messiah is
1:15:51 even a popular language now say they say
1:15:53 i am the messiah of this film me i am
1:15:55 the savior of them but actually the word
1:15:56 messiah does not even say is the one who
1:15:58 is anointed anointed as a king or as a
1:16:00 prophet
1:16:01 they have a procedure of announcement
1:16:04 with oil and touching in the forehead
1:16:06 and things like that uh symbolizing
1:16:08 appointment as a king or as a prophet
1:16:10 that's the original meaning the the
1:16:12 meaning of being a savior is that me
1:16:14 attached to that later it is not
1:16:16 linguistically messiah is the one who
1:16:18 has been anointed that's it nothing
1:16:19 nothing to do with saving or not saving
1:16:21 or or anything like that
1:16:23 and in the old testament with the
1:16:25 various people who have been anointed
1:16:27 for various things so that's that's
1:16:28 that's a misconception to think that but
1:16:31 because they call it
1:16:32 that's the conception related to being a
1:16:34 messiah and the difference between
1:16:35 messiah and israel messiah was used
1:16:37 there but also and testing point he has
1:16:39 used isabel maryam
1:16:42 and this point if you uh this is one of
1:16:44 the so-called numerical aspects of the
1:16:46 quran which which is a strong evidences
1:16:49 each one by itself but the totality of
1:16:51 them really very persuasive is that
1:16:54 there are safe certain american
1:16:55 synchronization the quran like for
1:16:57 example
1:16:58 because when i say that isa is similar
1:17:00 to in allah's side like adam created
1:17:03 from from the from dust and
1:17:05 said kun fire kun so isa is compared in
1:17:08 his creation to the creation of adam
1:17:13 and interestingly in this in that ayah
1:17:16 isa
1:17:17 is mentioned by his name isa and adam
1:17:19 his name adam but if you count how many
1:17:21 times adam is mentioned the quran it
1:17:22 turns out to be 24 and isa there is a
1:17:26 24. if in the other places where we have
1:17:28 almost
1:17:29 when isa was used in sydney the count
1:17:32 will go will go wrong so it's done also
1:17:34 deliberately to make the count correct
1:17:36 beside hinting the issue
1:17:39 thus is the messiah the anointed one
1:17:41 we're discussing the issues of creed and
1:17:43 being son of god or being god or the
1:17:45 authority and so on and when it is that
1:17:47 issue is not relevant then you have to
1:17:49 resize it so it is both befitting
1:17:52 uh meaning wise and not facing numerical
1:17:54 wise so elisa count
1:17:56 in the quran is 24 and adam 24 exactly
1:18:00 and the joining point is the ayah in the
1:18:02 metallica and the
1:18:04 example of isa in the sight of allah or
1:18:06 in the in the expression of allah is
1:18:08 like adam adam created from from
1:18:13 from dust and he said corn fire cone
1:18:15 obviously from mud to conveyor corn is a
1:18:17 process which they look for and have not
1:18:19 like something you think is a fashion
1:18:21 day can start you under and blow on life
1:18:23 in a second no this is a juicy and you
1:18:25 said the one who said that did not read
1:18:27 the quran read all the other eyes but
1:18:30 from
1:18:31 connecting him to his folder
1:18:33 atmos origin is like that and the same
1:18:35 way
1:18:36 connecting from the origin from the
1:18:38 belief of his mother
1:18:39 he's also confirmed but also he was very
1:18:41 carried to tell him he was developing
1:18:43 the womb or his
1:18:45 what he is was looking like in the
1:18:46 father and the confirmer couldn't
1:18:47 substitute him for that
1:18:49 that's the lackluster and because this
1:18:51 eye is the joining of adam and erisa
1:18:54 they have the same number in the quran
1:18:55 very interesting
1:18:57 but this is not our issue we win some of
1:18:59 these numeric synchronization at the
1:19:01 beginning of the holocaust yearly and
1:19:03 there are many others who need a waiter
1:19:05 to be detected most likely but if you
1:19:07 take all of them it shows that this is
1:19:09 this this this composition this work
1:19:11 cannot be because revealed over 23 years
1:19:14 and even with some obligation some eyes
1:19:16 along the way dropped and so on and
1:19:18 ultimately ending this form is cannot be
1:19:21 within a human reach or human
1:19:23 capabilities
1:19:25 so and the feather tranquilization and
1:19:29 characteristic of the evil doing the
1:19:30 bani israel from the time of the wood
1:19:32 ongoing and teresa of personally were
1:19:34 before
1:19:44 those of the children of israel who are
1:19:46 bent on denying the truth have already
1:19:47 been cut sorry
1:19:51 they were not enjoying good and
1:19:52 forbidding evil yeah
1:19:54 they would not prevent one another from
1:19:56 doing whatever hateful things they did
1:19:58 vial indeed was that with what they
1:20:02 was what they were want to do in
1:20:04 translation they did not prevent each
1:20:06 other from doing hateful things their
1:20:07 deeds were so evil
1:20:09 so they were not enjoying even
1:20:11 forbidding evil at least which
1:20:14 entails at least next time we'll be
1:20:15 joining god even even forbidding evil
1:20:21 rejecting evil advising everyone to
1:20:23 avoid evil that's the first step you
1:20:24 will not go to
1:20:26 to doing ma roof or do good things and
1:20:27 joining good and so on if you have if
1:20:29 you have not done the evil fest you have
1:20:31 to clean the field first you have to you
1:20:33 have to
1:20:35 forbid evil you have to deny evil you
1:20:36 have to reject evil fast and then you
1:20:38 build free and clean and clean around
1:20:41 not even that level there is
1:20:43 well how miserable they were behavior
1:20:46 but that's all through history but
1:20:47 nowadays you see other even worse things
1:20:50 which shows how most important is that
1:20:55 we see you see now for example in the
1:20:57 so-called christian world which is not
1:20:58 christian anymore actually
1:21:00 that all these evils of bestialities of
1:21:03 homosexuality and sodomy and so on and
1:21:05 now we're we're having animal sex being
1:21:07 put on the table so
1:21:09 feel what they call pedophilia ophelia
1:21:11 and so on coming on
1:21:15 and nobody is just the opposite if you
1:21:16 if you make any statement against that
1:21:18 oh you are a hate speech you are a head
1:21:20 creature and so on
1:21:22 so this is going along that way very
1:21:24 nicely down down to the abyss
1:21:26 anyway nowadays at the time of the
1:21:29 revelation
1:21:41 and now
1:21:42 valves can see many of them align
1:21:45 themselves with those who are bent on
1:21:46 denying truth so vile indeed is what
1:21:49 their passions make them do
1:21:50 that god has condemned them and in
1:21:53 suffering shall they abide next
1:21:55 translation yet yet profit
1:21:57 see many of them align themselves to the
1:21:59 unbelievers how evil is what their souls
1:22:02 make them do god has condemned them and
1:22:04 they shall remain in punishment forever
1:22:07 so that's that's further now at the time
1:22:09 of prophet it developed further that
1:22:11 they prefer to ally and cooperate with
1:22:13 the disbelievers of all type mushrikeen
1:22:15 over of mecca
1:22:17 and so on like probably of going there
1:22:19 and
1:22:20 hoping albany opening a lamentation
1:22:23 session about those who have been killed
1:22:25 in battle and instigating courage to
1:22:26 fight muhammad
1:22:28 uh all others
1:22:29 going around and trying to make like
1:22:32 the father of safiyah
1:22:34 peace be uh upon her the wife of the
1:22:36 prophet uh he was going around trying to
1:22:38 make an alliance against the person
1:22:40 coming in in the battle of the ditch
1:22:43 and obviously failing and being executed
1:22:45 after that and that's it yeah they
1:22:48 prefer to alive with this believer
1:22:51 and and just just just
1:22:54 get upfront against muhammad
1:22:56 and how miserable is this deed aligned
1:22:58 with the disbeliever
1:23:00 and fighting under their banner
1:23:02 just because of your
1:23:04 desires for power or desires for dunya
1:23:06 or or envy of whatever it is nationalism
1:23:09 tribalism whatever the reason is it they
1:23:11 will have that
1:23:12 wrath on allah on them and they will be
1:23:14 in in the punishment forever
1:23:18 if they were believer according there if
1:23:20 they because that's all answered someone
1:23:21 said oh they are they believe in their
1:23:24 gentleman doing good deeds no if they
1:23:25 were they wouldn't have done that and
1:23:27 then just
1:23:38 or if they truly believed in god and the
1:23:41 prophet and all that was bestowed upon
1:23:43 them from one high
1:23:44 they would not take those denies of the
1:23:46 truth for their allies but most of them
1:23:49 are iniquities
1:23:50 next translation if they believed in god
1:23:53 and their prophet and all that was sent
1:23:54 down to them they would not take the
1:23:56 unbelievers for their allies but most of
1:23:58 them are defined so so this is a
1:24:00 fundamental rule if someone believes
1:24:02 allah their judgment is not it's not
1:24:04 possible and not conceivable
1:24:07 ever that he will allow the disbeliever
1:24:09 who do not believe in allah and his
1:24:10 messengers and so on
1:24:12 against believers this it cannot happen
1:24:14 that's impossible that's that's cannot
1:24:16 be synchronized i believe
1:24:17 then the belief is fake this one is a
1:24:19 monafiq and he he is a kafir maleficent
1:24:22 and he is rebellious
1:24:24 so nobody should come and say oh you
1:24:26 can't because your benefit or do you
1:24:27 want to protect your kingdom or protect
1:24:30 actual border that's not that executes
1:24:32 or you are afraid that if you don't ally
1:24:34 with them you may have an enemy who
1:24:36 shall encroach against you that's all
1:24:38 this is not an excuse that's not that
1:24:40 quran refused that every year and we
1:24:41 discussed it in surat
1:24:43 very extensively allying with the
1:24:45 disbelievers of any kind against the
1:24:47 believer is an act of comfort
1:24:49 there's no way you can't take them out
1:24:51 allah
1:24:52 impossible while you are here they
1:24:54 really believe that this must be a fake
1:24:56 belief that must be fundamental
1:24:57 fundamentally something wrong in your
1:24:59 belief to the level that you are not
1:25:00 really a believer you are a catholic
1:25:05 and then a comment about the christian
1:25:07 some christian of the temple and their
1:25:09 good relation with muslims and
1:25:11 with the jews
1:25:13 and classifying this but it's only for
1:25:15 that time and for the reasons mentioned
1:25:17 and with the reason of revelation and we
1:25:18 maybe yeah we we still have some time
1:25:21 for this eye let us do it
1:25:52 hostile to those who believe in this
1:25:54 divine rhythm are the jews as well as
1:25:56 those who are bent on ascribing divinity
1:25:58 to ought beside god
1:26:00 and thou will surely find that of all
1:26:03 people who say they who say behold we
1:26:06 are christians
1:26:07 some come closest to feeling affection
1:26:09 for those who believe in this divine
1:26:11 writ
1:26:12 this is so because there are priests and
1:26:14 monks among them and because they these
1:26:17 are not given to arrogance
1:26:19 next translation you profit i'm sure you
1:26:21 find that most that the most hostile to
1:26:23 the believers are the jews as well as
1:26:25 those who are bent on describing
1:26:26 partners to go
1:26:28 while you will find that the nearest in
1:26:29 affection towards believers are those
1:26:31 who say we are christians because there
1:26:33 are priests and monks among them and
1:26:36 because these people are not given to
1:26:37 arrogance yeah so they said this is the
1:26:40 history during the time the prophet
1:26:42 the jews and the pagans they were
1:26:45 aligned with each other doing all kind
1:26:46 of campaigns to other islam out
1:26:49 while the christian would have
1:26:51 interaction with muslims in arabic they
1:26:52 were barely christian is in but nigerian
1:26:55 far away and they have no there's no
1:26:57 recorded history or anything except that
1:26:59 the israeli were allied they need the
1:27:01 protection of the romans against
1:27:05 against the persian who have been in
1:27:06 yemen and the pagans and so on the jews
1:27:08 there so they have an alliance that's
1:27:10 just for self-protection essentially and
1:27:13 nothing reported about them being
1:27:14 hostile anything there something like
1:27:16 that but the one with whom islam and
1:27:19 muslim have interaction are the
1:27:20 christians of abyssinian and for those
1:27:23 their attraction was very kind
1:27:25 especially
1:27:26 and the people around him some of his
1:27:28 central government and some priests and
1:27:29 so on
1:27:30 and uh and the reason that they are
1:27:32 there that the the interaction is is
1:27:35 not as hostile is that because they have
1:27:39 they have uh
1:27:41 priests
1:27:42 well-educated priests and they have also
1:27:44 monks who are devoted to worship and so
1:27:45 on and they are not known to be arrogant
1:27:48 while the jews at the time would be
1:27:49 elegant and very stiff-headed christians
1:27:52 are much softer and much more gentle
1:27:54 generally and especially the obsidian
1:27:56 one
1:27:57 and
1:27:58 and
1:27:59 to enforce that i'm mentioning how they
1:28:01 behaved when they hit what has been
1:28:02 revealed
1:28:04 and so the quran is accelerating them
1:28:06 and mentioning them in good terms next i
1:28:09 will clarify that further whether
1:28:11 someone is
1:28:27 thou can see their eyes overflow with
1:28:30 tears because they recognize something
1:28:32 of its truth
1:28:33 and they say oh our sustainer we do
1:28:36 believe make us one of them make us one
1:28:39 then we'll with all who bear witness to
1:28:41 the truth
1:28:42 yes translation when they understand
1:28:44 what has come down to this messenger you
1:28:47 can see their eyes tear up because they
1:28:49 recognize the truth in it and they say
1:28:51 lord we believe we do believe make us
1:28:54 one with all the who bear witness to the
1:28:57 truth so that's clear but i said but the
1:29:00 story goes like that
1:29:02 and that's beside the good reception
1:29:04 they found by abuja himself and few
1:29:06 around him in in abyssinian but not all
1:29:09 of them because there was a rebellion
1:29:10 against him or some people tried to
1:29:11 unseat him with the intention to kill
1:29:13 these muslims but they failed and jesus
1:29:15 stayed in power later on when the
1:29:17 prophet said in medina it seems to be
1:29:20 the opposing faction in in abyssinia or
1:29:22 something like that decided since
1:29:25 send a delegation to medina to argue
1:29:27 with the prophet about what he believes
1:29:29 in and so on
1:29:30 just to sort out with this man
1:29:32 who shows they are even before even they
1:29:35 became believer they
1:29:36 they they are reasonable they want to to
1:29:39 meet the guy want to discuss with him
1:29:41 see what's going on so when they came
1:29:43 and the president explained what he
1:29:45 believes in and recited the quran their
1:29:48 eyes were
1:29:49 flooded with tears and they breastfed
1:29:52 they recognized that this is the truth
1:29:53 and that's what isa has been announced
1:29:56 and they said we invite we believe in
1:29:58 that
1:29:59 and we ask allah to write us from the
1:30:01 witnesses
1:30:05 and samurai of quraysh maybe who gave
1:30:07 them company or if theirs is well guide
1:30:09 say what kind of a delegation you are
1:30:11 you are supposed to be refuting this man
1:30:13 and now you embrace
1:30:15 uh
1:30:16 embrace faith and join him you are a bad
1:30:18 delegation you do not do the job that
1:30:20 people send you back home for and they
1:30:22 said they didn't bother about this
1:30:23 accusations
1:30:32 so i foreign
1:30:34 and how could we fail to believe in god
1:30:36 and in whatever truth has come to us
1:30:38 when we so fervently desire that our
1:30:41 sustainer count us among the righteous
1:30:43 next translation how could we fail to
1:30:45 believe in god and in the truth that has
1:30:47 come to us when we long that our lord
1:30:49 include us in the company of the
1:30:50 righteous so so when they came from
1:30:52 abyssinian they came with the intention
1:30:54 to find the truth they do not
1:30:55 communicate just to refute this man and
1:30:57 they make him a liar so see what he has
1:30:59 because he has a as a case has a
1:31:01 reasonable point
1:31:02 and then when they recognize that they
1:31:04 embraced and then the keynote
1:31:07 what kind of delegation you are they're
1:31:09 supposed to come to refute him and then
1:31:10 you follow him tell him why shouldn't we
1:31:12 not follow him when he the truth has
1:31:15 come from our lord
1:31:16 and we have been always
1:31:18 wishing and wanting to be a joint to the
1:31:20 good people and to the right as people
1:31:22 and this is the occasion to to do that
1:31:24 and allah mentioned the reward
1:31:26 for that for the such statement such
1:31:28 attitude
1:31:41 and for this their belief god will
1:31:43 reward them with garden through which
1:31:45 running waters flow therein to mine for
1:31:47 such is a requital of the doers of good
1:31:49 in translation for saying this god will
1:31:51 reward them with heavenly gardens with
1:31:53 flowing rivers where they will
1:31:55 permanently abide or this is the reward
1:31:57 for those who do good
1:31:58 what's the second translation says at
1:32:00 the beginning repeat it
1:32:02 for saying this god will reward them
1:32:05 with good with heavenly gardens with
1:32:06 flowing rivers where they will
1:32:08 permanently abide for this is the reward
1:32:10 for those of you good
1:32:12 i would say both are mistranslating
1:32:14 because
1:32:15 allah rewarded them already this
1:32:17 delegation which did that
1:32:19 they already rewarded and they already
1:32:21 written in paradise and the business is
1:32:23 done so you could see these more sharing
1:32:25 but jannah these people are people who
1:32:27 paradise with certitude there's no
1:32:28 escape there's no change
1:32:31 allah rewarded them already for that
1:32:33 what they said
1:32:34 but the translator thought maybe he's
1:32:36 talking about this
1:32:40 will happen no there's no escape from it
1:32:42 so these are from those who are given
1:32:44 the glad tiding of paradise with
1:32:46 certainty
1:32:47 we don't know their names we don't know
1:32:49 how many there are maybe they're two or
1:32:51 three or five or 100 would not know that
1:32:52 delegation but these who said that
1:32:55 they have been already rewarded
1:33:00 and they will be attended there and this
1:33:02 is the reward for the world war so this
1:33:04 is these are sharing so if you ask about
1:33:06 unknown by name and unknown even by
1:33:09 nationality and also most likely the
1:33:10 abyssinian and that that's one of these
1:33:14 is not only the four or ten or twenty
1:33:16 years
1:33:18 you know these are
1:33:19 no this is all in the past
1:33:34 those who deny the truth yeah translate
1:33:37 whereas they who are denying the truth
1:33:40 and giving the light of our messengers
1:33:42 messages
1:33:43 they are destined for the blade and fire
1:33:45 next translation whereas those who
1:33:47 reject the truth and deny our messages
1:33:48 are destined for the blade empire
1:33:50 yeah that's that's for the future this
1:33:52 some of these mocks maybe maybe embrace
1:33:55 islam later and repent so this is
1:33:56 conditional if they die in that state
1:33:58 they will end in the hell fire but the
1:34:00 previous one is that the formulation and
1:34:02 the context clearly say it's already
1:34:04 done it is already sealed their destiny
1:34:06 is sealed exactly like
1:34:10 who embraced his name before by islam
1:34:12 before brother
1:34:13 and persisted on it until the ayah was
1:34:16 revealed in tawba which will come to his
1:34:18 inshallah later and also the people of
1:34:21 badr these are sealed the finish over
1:34:24 and we have some writing there in
1:34:25 details about the issue who of the
1:34:27 sahaba or those who make the prophet
1:34:29 i'll have the gratitude paradise it's
1:34:30 not it's not such a small number like
1:34:32 many people think no it's a huge number
1:34:35 but it was for general statements
1:34:38 however these are the
1:34:39 this is the companion of the hellfire
1:34:41 with the general prayer the the general
1:34:44 because he is not addressing only those
1:34:46 who mock them or they objected to them
1:34:49 generally they can follow and deny our
1:34:50 eyes whatever it is they are time of the
1:34:52 prophet until
1:34:53 they are the people they are fired with
1:34:55 the usual
1:34:57 caveat if they die in that state they
1:34:58 will received the truth rejected it et
1:35:00 cetera et cetera and died and that's it
1:35:02 some of those will repent and they would
1:35:04 not be proven able to help this is just
1:35:06 uh this is just a threat
1:35:08 just why eat redford what will happen
1:35:10 but the first one is a promise and it's
1:35:12 already done and and dusted
1:35:15 yeah next then another issue will start
1:35:19 start a a series of other issues which
1:35:22 we better start maybe next time with
1:35:24 another so we stop at this i think it's
1:35:25 number 88
1:35:28 this is yeah the next one is 87 by this
1:35:30 town
1:35:31 okay so for me will be 89 anyway that
1:35:34 doesn't matter
1:35:36 okay so there is somebody who who wants
1:35:39 to speak uh ask a question here in
1:35:41 charlotte yeah okay so we we we we
1:35:43 started so that's all the issues with
1:35:45 the jews christian and so on and this
1:35:47 delegation of abyssinian all the way
1:35:49 until conclusion we have finished today
1:35:51 so we can we can we have a nice rounded
1:35:54 uh
1:35:56 rounded portion of the of the soil
1:35:58 finished today it has to be done in
1:36:00 context like that in the stream and
1:36:01 there was that taking that eye out of
1:36:03 context which many people take so oh the
1:36:05 jews are christian and so on they all
1:36:07 believe in other judgment and they they
1:36:09 will do it they are saved it's not it's
1:36:10 not like that it is much more qualified
1:36:12 and much more
1:36:14 subtle and structured and the stream of
1:36:16 the eyes shows what's going on yeah
1:36:19 so keep that in mind taking one ayah
1:36:21 after context and our quran will will
1:36:23 get you will get to go astray that will
1:36:26 just it will get you into into falsehood
1:36:29 things have to be put especially complex
1:36:30 things are to put in the context
1:36:33 historic context textual context and so
1:36:35 on otherwise you will fall into into
1:36:38 into misguidance
1:36:39 okay question now
1:36:42 salaam alaikum
1:36:43 uh this is abu muhab speaking yeah uh i
1:36:46 have a question uh regarding is
1:36:50 someone who asked a question last week
1:36:52 about hijrah and taberiya
1:36:56 and
1:36:56 you said that
1:36:59 like making hijrah is not necessarily
1:37:03 a necessity for a muslim they can have
1:37:05 their own independent uh entity uh
1:37:08 that's essentially what you said but i
1:37:11 just want to clarify that what you what
1:37:14 you meant is
1:37:15 within the domain of islam right
1:37:19 not necessarily even even uh that that
1:37:22 there are various types of hijab one is
1:37:24 that
1:37:25 people embrace islam as an entity as a
1:37:27 tribe or a country like say for example
1:37:29 south africa is islam become majority
1:37:31 they are not obliged to join the islamic
1:37:33 union not even a confederation
1:37:35 but they became part of the islamic
1:37:37 domain and their relation with the
1:37:38 muslim world will be
1:37:39 of eternal peace there will be no war
1:37:41 there will be no conflict but what i
1:37:43 meant is that that people living in the
1:37:45 domain of kufr where they are safe from
1:37:47 prosecution so they can establish their
1:37:49 individual belief they can't pray they
1:37:51 can do their inheritance they can't do
1:37:53 their things without anyone enforcing
1:37:55 them or forcing them to leave their
1:37:57 belief
1:37:58 then these are not obliged to do israel
1:38:00 the
1:38:01 obligation for those who are prosecuted
1:38:04 and cannot cannot establish their own
1:38:06 individual deen
1:38:08 so it's more complex but the the work
1:38:10 about hijrah immigration and the
1:38:12 so-called
1:38:13 right of self-determination is almost
1:38:15 finished in charlotte will be finished
1:38:17 and we'll
1:38:18 make sure that we also translate it
1:38:20 because i think it contains
1:38:21 quite a number of shocking things which
1:38:23 have been overlooked by classical
1:38:24 scholars so hijra is only obligatory
1:38:27 those who cannot establish the deen and
1:38:29 are persecuted and forced to to commit
1:38:31 cover or pronounce cover
1:38:34 and so they have to if they are able
1:38:36 they have to do the hijrah otherwise
1:38:38 they are
1:38:39 there they are condemned but anyone who
1:38:42 will and the evidence for that is for
1:38:43 example when uh
1:38:47 after live in the ham one of the early
1:38:48 sahabi whenever embracing islam did not
1:38:51 omigrate because his his people say why
1:38:54 are immigrating with muhammad to medina
1:38:56 will protect you nobody will touch you
1:38:58 you can pray you can do whatever you
1:38:59 want and they gave protection
1:39:01 and uh he was allowed the president did
1:39:03 not condemn and after the conquest of
1:39:05 makkah said your people
1:39:07 have been better to you than my own
1:39:09 people your people protected you and
1:39:11 give you and you stayed home and you
1:39:12 were
1:39:13 safe and sound and my people forced me
1:39:16 to go out of mecca they were intended to
1:39:18 kill me but abdullah in him out of
1:39:20 politeness and god said he said you know
1:39:21 allah your people are better because
1:39:24 they for even if they had that have evil
1:39:26 act that act get you to go out of
1:39:28 mecca and establish islam and do jihad
1:39:31 at egypt i stayed in makkah i did not
1:39:33 participate in jihad yet and so on
1:39:35 that's after politeness but clearly the
1:39:37 prophet approved this thing because he
1:39:38 was protected the same happened with
1:39:40 ramayana wahab
1:39:42 nuh has some some son taken prisoners of
1:39:44 war in badr
1:39:46 and he sat in history
1:39:49 and say word and he has only daughters
1:39:52 and that son which is in say where it
1:39:54 not for these daughters
1:39:58 uh that who will take care of them and
1:40:00 who will get in there married and so on
1:40:02 i would sharpen my sword poison it and
1:40:05 go and kill mohammed safan
1:40:10 your daughters are my daughters i will
1:40:11 get them married i'll treat them like my
1:40:13 daughters there's a covenant between you
1:40:14 just go and do so he sharpened his soul
1:40:16 and went
1:40:18 omar says when he came
1:40:20 i hated him like a pig
1:40:22 i know this is an evil man and he was in
1:40:24 badr really encouraging everyone to
1:40:26 fight and so it was very evil but he
1:40:28 escaped
1:40:30 and he has his sword hanging on his neck
1:40:32 so armor went and told him his neck say
1:40:34 what's what you're doing here what's
1:40:35 what you want
1:40:36 sam came just to
1:40:38 to bargain for releasing that prisoner
1:40:40 with you up saying what is this sword
1:40:42 see how can i travel over this distance
1:40:44 without assault i have the protection
1:40:46 this is wilderness
1:40:48 messenger allah said let him lose omar
1:40:50 why you are holding the man from the
1:40:51 neck of him so he came close
1:40:53 and say
1:40:56 is it really that you came for for for
1:40:58 the studio to pay the
1:41:00 the ransom for your son and take him or
1:41:02 your cousin or something say yes they
1:41:04 say what's about when you were sitting
1:41:06 with safani
1:41:07 into the cab and saying so on so on and
1:41:09 so on
1:41:15 i will be witness that you are the
1:41:16 messenger allah
1:41:18 and
1:41:19 and we were always believing that you
1:41:22 are a liar but what ways between me and
1:41:24 sabwan
1:41:25 is certainly not known to anybody and
1:41:28 even according to our pagan belief even
1:41:29 allah does not know because we were i
1:41:31 think inside the kaaba or something
1:41:33 shielding us from allah even seeing it
1:41:35 so what you claim about allah and your
1:41:36 prophethood is correct what we claim is
1:41:38 the rank definitely
1:41:41 so
1:41:42 and then he asked the permission to go
1:41:44 to makkah and karidawa meanwhile safwan
1:41:47 just complete the story stafford was
1:41:48 telling the people you will get a great
1:41:50 news soon a great news so and then
1:41:53 the great news came back for him that
1:41:55 sophomore became a muslim so he swore he
1:41:57 would never benefit from he would never
1:41:59 talk to him anymore anything
1:42:01 and then safwan came back to makkah
1:42:02 because he was a very strong and very
1:42:04 nasty person in in his behavior with
1:42:06 others and he was torturing quraish and
1:42:08 inviting so many to islam
1:42:10 that he got hundreds becoming muslim
1:42:12 under his protection and his uh sub
1:42:14 tribe and then i think they immigrated
1:42:17 just little before the conquest of
1:42:18 makkah
1:42:20 in the hospital he did not forget his
1:42:21 good relation and friendship
1:42:26 when when the
1:42:29 with the intention to join the romans so
1:42:31 he followed him and got him say my
1:42:33 brother you know how i love you
1:42:35 for islam although you
1:42:37 cut all the delegation but you're still
1:42:38 my beloved one my old friend come the
1:42:41 messenger of allah is the best man for
1:42:44 you even if you don't believe in him is
1:42:45 better for you than the romans and the
1:42:47 abyssinian come
1:42:48 you will have refuge here you will have
1:42:50 safety and security it's better than
1:42:52 going to the foreign country so he came
1:42:54 back and later became muslim
1:42:56 oh my god anyway
1:42:58 so the prophet permitted him to go back
1:43:00 so even in the domain of gopher if you
1:43:01 are safe for your own and you know you
1:43:03 say from being forced into kuffar
1:43:06 then you are not obliged for hijrah and
1:43:07 the condemnation of those who do not
1:43:09 commit israel is
1:43:11 it does not apply only those who are
1:43:12 subject of persecution and and they have
1:43:15 to establish their deen or they're
1:43:16 forced out of their belief they are
1:43:18 sinful they don't immigrate yeah that's
1:43:20 right
1:43:21 other things than other other entities
1:43:23 and so on that will be in that research
1:43:25 with the fine points of statehood and
1:43:27 borders and all these things will be
1:43:29 discussed they shall indicate
1:43:30 yes i think the ayah is clear uh allah
1:43:33 says
1:43:37 yes
1:43:38 now going back to the independent
1:43:40 identity entities within the domain of
1:43:42 islam
1:43:44 those entities will still have to abide
1:43:47 by certain rules like for example not to
1:43:49 do usually not to do absolutely
1:43:51 absolutely
1:43:54 if you
1:43:55 meet your enemy of the muslim kingdom
1:43:56 invite them to embrace islam if they
1:43:58 accept that embrace islam then give them
1:44:00 the islam and give them the choice
1:44:02 either they stay in their own domain
1:44:03 either they mispreferably to immigrate
1:44:06 meaning not moving physically but
1:44:08 joining the islamic state as a as a
1:44:10 member of the union
1:44:12 if they don't want that they want to say
1:44:13 independent they called muslims
1:44:16 of the muslim
1:44:17 then they will be independent they will
1:44:20 land and all the rules of islam apply to
1:44:22 them internally and externally but they
1:44:24 don't have anything in the treasury of
1:44:26 the media the
1:44:28 central state which was in madina at
1:44:30 that time
1:44:33 and they have nothing in surgery and
1:44:34 nothing in the in the in the booty
1:44:36 unless they join in fight so if they
1:44:38 join in a fight against mushrikeen they
1:44:40 get a share of the body otherwise they
1:44:42 have nothing to do with the surgery they
1:44:43 have control of their own domain of
1:44:45 their resources
1:44:47 they tax themselves they have their own
1:44:49 zakat and things like that but they have
1:44:50 to comply completely with the law of
1:44:52 islam that's the example as a tribe
1:44:55 that's an islamic entity they are not a
1:44:57 dominant
1:44:58 prophet i think now it's clear because
1:45:00 last time i think
1:45:02 maybe i got the impression that you know
1:45:05 uh
1:45:05 what you meant maybe um
1:45:08 something different because you know
1:45:11 the model will end up like something
1:45:13 what we live today in a list no no no no
1:45:15 no no no no no no yes that's the one
1:45:16 that we have we have no islamic domain
1:45:18 these are the ones of course
1:45:20 anyway
1:45:21 and you know maybe maybe one muslim
1:45:23 country will declare war on another
1:45:25 country like for example
1:45:27 as a state as an entity all of these are
1:45:29 domain of cohort and they're systems of
1:45:30 government they have nothing to do with
1:45:32 this with this that's the ideal
1:45:33 situation which was enacted better and
1:45:35 the legal the legal framework is
1:45:38 established and will be written
1:45:39 inshallah is written almost out there
1:45:41 was only one issue to be clarified they
1:45:42 have clarified it now i have just to put
1:45:44 it down in writing and this will be
1:45:46 publicized soon and this will be all i
1:45:48 think will be in the queue for
1:45:49 translation because i think is it plus
1:45:51 the sake for the sahiba of medina are
1:45:55 utmost importance in these issues
1:45:57 right one last point professor uh i also
1:46:00 have written like a small draft i'm
1:46:02 still working on expanding it i told you
1:46:05 once about it is that you know
1:46:10 what i said today is uh i also written
1:46:12 down and i have the dalil from the quran
1:46:17 allah says
1:46:22 and this and this means two things on
1:46:25 the spiritual and
1:46:27 the level of iman
1:46:29 uh
1:46:30 means that we we are
1:46:32 we are brothers because the prophet says
1:47:07 no no permission for body if anyone
1:47:09 commits barry will be fought by the
1:47:10 others and forced to to go back to the
1:47:12 ruling of allah et cetera so absolutely
1:47:15 for example the mother believing
1:47:18 people who pass long away ibrahim is
1:47:20 part of the ummah he's the leader of the
1:47:22 ummah but he's not part of any alliance
1:47:24 because he's dead he's not he's not
1:47:26 active in the world so so there's
1:47:28 difference between
1:47:29 islamia and
1:47:31 their differences exactly and this will
1:47:33 be also discussed inshallah in
1:47:39 Music
1:47:42 what we just said is the spiritual
1:47:45 brotherhood exactly and and also the
1:47:48 political brotherhood because allah also
1:47:50 says
1:47:53 and allah says also but i said we have
1:47:56 to have to be fine there because being
1:47:58 ummah is not the main necessary one
1:48:00 it has i will develop that inshallah in
1:48:02 detail because the william is not a is
1:48:04 not a brotherhood it's something more
1:48:05 than that
1:48:07 it's absurd but it has but being an
1:48:09 ummah meaning between the islamic entity
1:48:11 if they exist like the muslim and
1:48:14 there can't be no confrontation there
1:48:16 can be no war there can be no hostility
1:48:18 and if anyone transgress against the
1:48:20 other all other muslims will rally and
1:48:21 force him to go back to peaceful
1:48:23 behavior and stop bari
1:48:25 according to bali it needs a little bit
1:48:28 of expansion but if you have some
1:48:29 writing provided to me shall and
1:48:31 telegram and we'll try to weave it under
1:48:33 and develop it further
1:48:35 inshallah i will send it to you i'm
1:48:36 still expanding expanding it because i'm
1:48:38 not satisfied but eventually i'll i'll
1:48:40 send it to you so you can have a look
1:48:42 thank you professor thank you so much
1:48:50 uh just to i have another question but
1:48:52 just to add on to uh what was discussed
1:48:55 uh you you're very right
1:48:57 that
1:48:58 when we mentioned that the ummah
1:49:00 is one um uh we are one ummah from the
1:49:04 time of khadijah
1:49:05 all the way to israel
1:49:08 victory and losses are one so the
1:49:11 victory in the brother and honda that's
1:49:14 the victory of the whole ummah that's
1:49:16 our victory as well and you know our uh
1:49:19 the victory in afghanistan against
1:49:20 crusaders that's the victory of the
1:49:22 whole ummah from before
1:49:24 from that concept my actual question
1:49:41 not the muslim king we are not talking
1:49:42 about the current christian bishop
1:49:45 we are referring to jehovah witnesses
1:49:46 for example or the jews now if they have
1:49:49 not heard of the message of rasulullah
1:49:51 there's a unanimous agreement that as
1:49:53 long as they follow their religion they
1:49:55 have not heard of issa like some jews or
1:49:57 the jehovah witnesses they have not
1:49:58 heard of rasulullah they do good they
1:50:01 die upon islam because their religion is
1:50:03 islam right however there are two camps
1:50:06 here one camp we say actually this ayah
1:50:08 is
1:50:09 and of course we disagree with them
1:50:12 obligation
1:50:14 is the way of of the weak one the the
1:50:16 allegations should not be said unless
1:50:18 you are forced to and you find no other
1:50:20 way out but
1:50:21 but there are some liberals and those
1:50:23 who for example say that
1:50:25 the point is that the point which must
1:50:27 be stressed i wouldn't say and
1:50:30 categorically that those are like
1:50:31 witnesses of jehovah for example on one
1:50:33 of this i would say anyone who is on on
1:50:37 or did not receive the message of islam
1:50:40 is is is not is not a catholic in the
1:50:42 sense of
1:50:44 independent of its in a good creed or
1:50:46 false creed even even pagans
1:50:48 so it's wider than that
1:50:50 that we have discussed that i think
1:50:52 several times maybe maybe some brothers
1:50:54 remember wish halaca we discussed that
1:50:56 more extensively and it can be given to
1:50:58 you you are not attending from illia
1:51:00 times we discussed that point i think
1:51:02 russia i think we discussed that
1:51:04 at this eye or elsewhere in very
1:51:06 extensive and several times actually so
1:51:11 i wouldn't say they died on islam or
1:51:13 they say they died without the with the
1:51:15 message and the and under the reason to
1:51:17 be punished
1:51:24 that they are on islam or not in islam
1:51:25 we don't know i would i wouldn't really
1:51:28 i wouldn't really uh
1:51:31 make such a statement
1:51:32 chef
1:51:38 what i'm saying is that anyone who did
1:51:40 not receive a message in such a way that
1:51:41 is persuasive
1:51:43 presented to him probably
1:51:45 or he had the opportunity but he
1:51:47 forgotten the opportunity to search for
1:51:49 the message and understand it anyone is
1:51:52 not liable or punishment
1:51:54 because
1:51:56 period full stop
1:51:58 independence witnesses jehovah or even
1:52:00 the parents of the amazon that's another
1:52:02 issue
1:52:03 those witnesses are in a previous
1:52:05 scripture which seems to be they are
1:52:06 monotheistic and so on
1:52:09 they
1:52:10 the
1:52:11 they who did not receive the message of
1:52:12 islam
1:52:14 they are part of that but claiming that
1:52:16 they are only islam
1:52:17 is a problem because after muhammad
1:52:19 islam is by definition the religion of
1:52:21 muhammad
1:52:22 they may be submitted to allah and maybe
1:52:24 there is some reward for that we is
1:52:26 going to that is not but the most
1:52:27 important they did not receive the
1:52:28 message so they are not liable of a
1:52:31 punishment what what what their status
1:52:33 and uh if that's sufficiently counted
1:52:36 for them i would i would not speculate
1:52:38 on that and just my general principle
1:52:40 answering these questions i would say
1:52:42 don't indulge in that that's question
1:52:43 usually it's present to many people
1:52:45 saying what do you say about this i say
1:52:47 my answers have same way don't worry
1:52:48 allah knows how to manage people better
1:52:50 than you and me prepare it for stop
1:52:52 that's the general answer which is
1:52:54 consistent and logically correct but the
1:52:56 fundamental principle we know is that
1:53:00 you could not conclude that the pagans
1:53:02 in amazon who did not save a message
1:53:03 they are going to uh like elect the
1:53:05 pagans of quraish who are fighting
1:53:07 muhammad in battle it's no way is
1:53:09 impossible that would be contradicted
1:53:10 the quran that's all that we can say
1:53:12 with certitude other things
1:53:14 someone may be speculate i wouldn't
1:53:16 speculate on that i wouldn't bother
1:53:17 about that tree very much
1:53:19 i wouldn't bother with it so the only
1:53:21 thing is the only question now remains
1:53:23 is that there are some amongst the
1:53:24 muslims who believe now
1:53:26 that even if they have heard of
1:53:28 rasulallah but they remain christian or
1:53:31 jews this is still applicable to them
1:53:33 and when we tell them if they say for
1:53:35 example stephen hawking they say how
1:53:37 much charitable he was how much good he
1:53:51 we ask these people the question if they
1:53:54 have heard from rasool allah
1:53:56 if they have still rejected them do you
1:53:58 consider that to be
1:54:00 of course you said this
1:54:04 meaning allah is the creator of the
1:54:06 universe
1:54:07 absolute severine he decide whom he sent
1:54:10 and we have to accept that if you don't
1:54:12 accept that then you are not believing
1:54:14 in allah you are building some kind of
1:54:15 idol in your mind
1:54:17 even the the
1:54:19 belief is fundamentally
1:54:21 for example he flipped
1:54:24 some jews claimed muhammad was with the
1:54:26 messenger for the for the for the arabs
1:54:29 but he himself said
1:54:31 that he is a messenger to all mankind
1:54:33 and
1:54:34 if he's a messenger if he's sent by
1:54:36 allah then allah must have made him a
1:54:38 this statement must be unfollowed it's
1:54:40 not his own statement otherwise the
1:54:42 claiming he's a messenger or sent
1:54:44 without a certain infallibility doesn't
1:54:46 make any sense
1:54:48 so this internal contradiction you are
1:54:49 attributing to allah said in
1:54:51 contradiction that he say something in
1:54:53 the quran and assume and accept that you
1:54:55 say now you actually in this point you
1:54:57 are lying with another point you are
1:54:58 correct so it is i think it is
1:55:01 contradictory fundamentally the meaning
1:55:03 of definition of allah
1:55:04 so they they believe in a certain
1:55:06 entity in their mind which is not the
1:55:08 entity which has revealed the scripture
1:55:10 not the one who said to muslims
1:55:13 i am i am who is who is
1:55:16 i am the one i am
1:55:18 you're leaving something else
1:55:24 so that's that's if it does but i say
1:55:26 the whole issue i think that i i'm
1:55:28 wondering why the whole issue is it
1:55:29 comes again and again and again i think
1:55:32 that's uh that's uh that's i think i
1:55:35 once discussed that several times really
1:55:37 and i once said i think this is some
1:55:39 kind of a satanic uh
1:55:41 inspiration or was wasa uh is trying to
1:55:44 get you uh off tangent in something
1:55:47 which you
1:55:48 should have seth had called clearly i
1:55:50 know that nobody would be punished if he
1:55:51 didn't receive a messenger
1:55:53 that's clear
1:55:55 said in the quran and the other people
1:55:56 allah will manage them the best way we i
1:55:58 don't need to second guess allah i do
1:56:00 not tell the people there because i
1:56:02 don't know how allah will manage them
1:56:05 i think that's the best that's the best
1:56:06 answer that's the thing you got on the
1:56:08 one extreme where someone think has the
1:56:10 impression that you whisper in someone's
1:56:12 aim here muhammad
1:56:14 that's enough okay that's it you're
1:56:15 going to help no no no that's that's
1:56:17 that's not that's nonsense
1:56:21 again again if someone says that say
1:56:23 listen
1:56:26 at which time their soul is brought the
1:56:30 message in such a way that the people
1:56:32 are guilty of denial
1:56:34 that that moment of denial is not only
1:56:36 to allah but in principle if they deny
1:56:39 after they see the evidence
1:56:41 like the people referral and say that
1:56:43 clearly
1:56:45 they were convinced this is but they
1:56:48 rejected because they are we're going to
1:56:49 follow two slaves
1:56:52 two men like us human beings and their
1:56:53 people are just live under us it's going
1:56:56 to follow slaves
1:56:57 we're too high for that
1:57:00 you see there is that level
1:57:03 then they are worthy of punishment
1:57:05 is exp hawking received that at least
1:57:07 that level we don't know
1:57:10 is the people and absolutely almost
1:57:12 certainly not
1:57:14 but
1:57:15 judging that needs someone who knows the
1:57:17 internal affairs of every human being
1:57:18 but the principle is clear
1:57:20 he received the message in such a way
1:57:22 that it is clear and evident and he
1:57:25 rejected it after it became apparent to
1:57:28 him that's the truth
1:57:29 if it is still confusing he may be still
1:57:32 punishment if he did not search further
1:57:34 for the truth
1:57:35 and during the search if he dies still
1:57:37 he is saved because he did not but he is
1:57:39 searching
1:57:40 i'm not going to say i don't bother i i
1:57:42 i know some people say i discuss with
1:57:44 him i say listen leave the paradise for
1:57:46 you i don't care about it
1:57:48 that's rejecting the truth it may be
1:57:50 true i'm rejecting it i'm not wondering
1:57:51 about that
1:57:53 that's another type of rejection
1:57:55 you may be telling the truth that's
1:57:57 irrelevant from me i don't care about it
1:57:58 to the hell with you and your paradise
1:58:00 for example people some people say that
1:58:03 so
1:58:04 indulging in that i think my feeling is
1:58:06 that the whole the whole studying of
1:58:08 that area is is is
1:58:10 is an attempt sometimes if you come from
1:58:12 non-muslim it says them say oh there's
1:58:14 so many good people doing good deeds and
1:58:15 so on i answered that i think it today
1:58:17 you listen that to again in the
1:58:19 recording but
1:58:20 if from the muslim camp i think they are
1:58:22 dragged in an area which they should
1:58:24 their answer should be we know the
1:58:25 fundamental principle one number one
1:58:27 only if a messenger has come and you
1:58:29 received the message you understood it
1:58:32 for example if you are deaf or you are
1:58:34 blind
1:58:35 even blind may be excused because you're
1:58:37 blindness because many things in the
1:58:38 message has to be seen has to be
1:58:40 verified by eyesight
1:58:43 if someone is mentally someone short of
1:58:46 mind someone's have down syndrome all of
1:58:48 these things we know that there's
1:58:49 a hadith about this
1:58:52 but this the principle is clear
1:58:55 if someone did not see what he's on a
1:58:56 previous revelation and seem to be doing
1:58:58 well under that we hope that
1:59:00 allah will know how to count his that
1:59:02 for him and what's for him what's
1:59:04 against him
1:59:06 and we know that allah will keep up with
1:59:08 that
1:59:09 the the settlement of the account today
1:59:12 will start from adam going downwards so
1:59:14 all accounts will be set to generation
1:59:16 by generation one by one
1:59:19 we cannot do that in dunya now because
1:59:21 some people who are rejecting the truth
1:59:22 now maybe may be the victim of their own
1:59:25 society and so on such indoctrination
1:59:27 that's impossible for them to to analyze
1:59:29 understand so they're excused but only
1:59:31 allah can know that
1:59:33 by tracing their history by
1:59:35 by starting with adam going down also
1:59:37 the current generation everything is
1:59:39 cleared stage by stage that's the way it
1:59:41 works
1:59:43 so i i would i would advise don't
1:59:45 indulge in that just isn't the principle
1:59:46 the only point of something are these
1:59:48 are doing good these are they are not
1:59:49 believers and so on why should they go
1:59:51 to a person that's that's not correct
1:59:53 that's that's the condition for the
1:59:55 reward is not there
1:59:57 maybe they will be commuting some of
1:59:59 their sentences we don't know that's
2:00:00 something
2:00:01 allah is at liberty to forgo
2:00:03 but what
2:00:05 the word is conditioned on on on doing
2:00:08 good deeds based on iman imam allah
2:00:21 they don't believe in allah
2:00:23 they believe in some entity which does
2:00:25 not exist realities it's rationally
2:00:27 impossible to exist
2:00:29 for example
2:00:30 but i would say that's it seems to be
2:00:32 there's like a fashion of that but
2:00:34 non-believers say oh actually you are a
2:00:36 muslim because you grow in islamic world
2:00:38 we are here there's really no evidences
2:00:40 nothing really persuasive that's that's
2:00:42 it goes around somehow in the background
2:00:44 around that although they don't express
2:00:46 it that directly and we have also a
2:00:48 moral code and people are complying
2:00:51 they're charitable and things like that
2:00:54 but the ultimate
2:00:56 we're not sat down and given a detailed
2:00:57 creed
2:00:58 we're born into a muslim family beaten
2:01:00 up in a masjid if you're lucky to learn
2:01:02 quran and that's it there's nothing
2:01:04 there's nothing so you can expect this
2:01:06 until a creed until the
2:01:08 material gets out there you know the the
2:01:10 good works
2:01:11 absolutely
2:01:13 the the classical scholar discuss if
2:01:15 someone just
2:01:16 become a believer by taklit
2:01:18 without really himself coming to the
2:01:20 truth bye bye bye bye evidence and so on
2:01:22 is that is that valuable or not valuable
2:01:26 that's another question
2:01:28 clearly
2:01:29 uh he may be tested down the road some
2:01:31 people are lucky they are not tested
2:01:33 then they are lucky there is a grace
2:01:34 from allah they got away
2:01:38 there would be things like that
2:01:40 sure there's a brother who's been asking
2:01:41 been asking about the contracts and
2:01:43 stuff i did send you some material yet
2:01:44 last week but he's here on this uh so am
2:01:47 do you wanna unmute and ask
2:01:49 yeah can you leave me now
2:01:51 yeah can anyone hear me
2:01:53 yeah yeah
2:01:54 yeah sorry
2:01:56 did i do it
2:01:58 yeah and chef i had that question i
2:02:01 actually sent you if
2:02:05 a little bit louder
2:02:10 okay
2:02:11 can you hear me now yeah
2:02:15 okay um i was asking that about that
2:02:18 contract thing
2:02:20 you know
2:02:22 i asked if can you hear me
2:02:25 we can hear you yeah but be louder try
2:02:27 to come too close to the television
2:02:29 point as much as possible yeah
2:02:32 yeah i think that's the best that i can
2:02:34 what is the question okay
2:02:36 the question is about the contract that
2:02:39 i would like to ask about that if you
2:02:41 think
2:02:43 um what i was saying is that generally
2:02:46 as far as i
2:02:48 researched and looked into
2:02:50 the cfds are generally
2:02:53 contracts that you cannot um
2:02:57 you cannot
2:02:58 receive
2:03:00 so
2:03:01 what i was asking is that you see if you
2:03:04 don't receive the
2:03:06 contract itself
2:03:08 meaning that if you for example
2:03:11 buy something but you don't receive it
2:03:14 but you only receive the difference
2:03:17 of that contract is that low in some
2:03:21 uh but give an example for example you
2:03:23 buy something from from amazon
2:03:25 okay
2:03:26 you said you're that's a
2:03:28 if you are in the shop you receive the
2:03:30 things and take them that's clear but if
2:03:32 you buy something on amazon they say
2:03:34 your your your payment is received and
2:03:36 the
2:03:37 people are packaging it and they will
2:03:39 send it
2:03:41 yeah but that it's not exactly like that
2:03:43 just i'm giving that and now i'll give
2:03:46 the example
2:03:47 for example in the case of forex for
2:03:50 example and those stuff
2:03:52 what you're actually what you are
2:03:54 actually doing is that when you
2:03:56 basically
2:03:57 go and open an order with the
2:04:00 mr broker
2:04:02 the broker for example goes to the
2:04:04 liquidity provider and
2:04:07 basically
2:04:08 buys the currency but you don't receive
2:04:12 that you can't remember
2:04:14 the broker when we buy that he received
2:04:16 it
2:04:17 in his broker account
2:04:20 he's your is your acting on your behalf
2:04:23 a sunny in fact
2:04:26 it's okay it's okay
2:04:28 that's no problem
2:04:31 and this is a future contract and
2:04:33 according to the contract specification
2:04:35 if it is in the future but with the with
2:04:37 the proper condition of sallam it's also
2:04:39 okay but this is more complex leave that
2:04:41 now even but this is okay it's perfectly
2:04:43 okay
2:04:44 the broker receives in the account the
2:04:47 same for example were thinking about a
2:04:49 short selling
2:04:50 selling short
2:04:53 let's say stocks shares
2:04:56 they think it's selling that what you
2:04:57 don't own but that's not true because
2:04:58 the broker will go there
2:05:00 get get the stocks
2:05:02 available in the market at the price you
2:05:04 specified or the price of the market if
2:05:06 you have a market order and put it in
2:05:08 your account
2:05:09 so it is you know you borrow it but when
2:05:11 you borrow something it you become your
2:05:13 ownership in your hand and you're
2:05:14 responsible for paying it back and then
2:05:16 you deal with it whatever you weigh sell
2:05:17 it and so on hoping that the price will
2:05:19 go down and then you buy from a bucket
2:05:21 and pay back
2:05:22 perfectly fine people think that you're
2:05:24 selling what you don't have it's not
2:05:25 true you're selling what you have
2:05:27 because the broker is is is getting it
2:05:30 and putting it in your account it's a
2:05:31 bit more complicated because settling
2:05:33 the accounts or somebody has done almost
2:05:35 momentarily and the broker has the
2:05:37 authority and he's accessing the
2:05:38 liquidity directly and he has a broker
2:05:41 account that's how it works so even the
2:05:43 short selling is correct what is selling
2:05:45 what you don't have is the example of
2:05:47 the classical scholar saying saying what
2:05:49 you have is said i said you a bird which
2:05:50 is flying in this in the sky i will sell
2:05:52 you that bird it's not possible shoot it
2:05:54 fast down and sell it to me or catch it
2:05:57 fast
2:05:58 because it's not under your control it's
2:06:00 not really abraham it's not in your hand
2:06:03 but that was a short selling it's in
2:06:05 your hand it's in the market the broker
2:06:07 get it for you according to your
2:06:08 instructions and and and
2:06:11 the only problem is that maybe
2:06:13 you may borrow from a broker with
2:06:14 interest that will be the problem of
2:06:16 borrowing but if you buy in cash you
2:06:18 have enough cash on your car it's no
2:06:20 problem
2:06:21 the only problem is you borrow and if
2:06:22 the if the if the
2:06:24 broker shows you interest which is usual
2:06:26 thing in the west no
2:06:28 broker will will lend you without
2:06:30 charging at rest so it will be haram
2:06:31 because of the borrowing not because of
2:06:33 the short selling
2:06:34 and i hate that some some brokerage
2:06:36 houses may give you like a
2:06:39 grace period of one week or something
2:06:41 like that and if you are a good trader i
2:06:43 know one uh if shahzad is present he
2:06:45 will mention one is like his name is
2:06:47 similar to his name uh he he has he has
2:06:50 he he can he can borrow interest free
2:06:53 for for a week and he says next day or
2:06:55 with within a week
2:06:56 so he's borrowing interest free and he
2:06:58 settles within a week so it's perfectly
2:07:00 fine
2:07:03 but the broker is receiving for you
2:07:04 that's that's just just to go to the
2:07:06 basic question he's receiving for you
2:07:08 it's in in the broker account in your
2:07:10 behalf
2:07:11 in a segregated account and it's it's
2:07:13 very clear that he has received it and
2:07:14 it is and he is your attorney in fact he
2:07:17 is representing you in the deal
2:07:20 and the reception has been has happened
2:07:23 okay yes but as far as i i asked those
2:07:27 brokers these questions i said
2:07:30 i actually owned the thing
2:07:33 as far as i know all of them said that
2:07:36 you don't actually own the thing but you
2:07:38 are only able to trade it
2:07:41 no you are able to trade that one when
2:07:42 your broker have received it
2:07:44 the moment is the deal is that it's
2:07:46 it is in your account or in the
2:07:47 segregated account of the of the broker
2:07:50 and you can deal with it so the people
2:07:51 who told you they don't understand the
2:07:53 meaning of receiving they think the only
2:07:55 thing they think of receiving that
2:07:56 you're going to the let's say that in
2:07:58 their imagination it's like in the in
2:08:00 the
2:08:01 in the sheep market you go and hand the
2:08:03 sheep and say here's the money and take
2:08:04 a sheep from the neck and take it for
2:08:06 slaughter that's that's that's their
2:08:09 mind work but their mind is faulty
2:08:11 that's not how we're receiving it
2:08:12 receiving can be done by someone in your
2:08:14 behalf receiving can be done
2:08:16 electronically by receiving a message
2:08:18 confirming it is a certain account
2:08:20 abstract account somewhere in the
2:08:22 blockchain all of that's receiving
2:08:24 but these people have have a deficient
2:08:26 way of understanding the meaning of
2:08:27 receiving and the meaning of language
2:08:31 uh chef uh i have a broker called axi
2:08:33 they have a show you compliant uh
2:08:36 accounts as well on forex all for forex
2:08:38 pairs including including cash cfd as
2:08:42 well as metro so that's gold uh silver
2:08:44 platinum call uh severe axis excellent
2:08:47 and they they charge you no interest no
2:08:49 commission no swap and you can borrow up
2:08:52 to 500 x uh
2:08:54 most likely they make money they make
2:08:56 money from the split between buy and
2:08:58 sell and buy so they make it some of the
2:09:00 money somewhere but anyway that's
2:09:02 perfectly permissible that's a
2:09:03 commission for the sales transaction and
2:09:05 the commission is enough for them some
2:09:07 some are happy with that that's fine
2:09:09 maybe you should give you should give
2:09:11 the address of this broker those who
2:09:13 would like to deal although i would
2:09:15 advise never buy one margin you will
2:09:17 kill yourself
2:09:19 because if the market goes against you
2:09:21 they will eliminate why they will force
2:09:23 you to eliminate and then you will end
2:09:24 the becoming
2:09:26 looking bad
2:09:27 and be running naked around
2:09:30 without your money but that's it it's a
2:09:32 matter of
2:09:34 management of the affairs not better
2:09:38 okay
2:09:40 but that's what the forex is perfect
2:09:42 receiving the broker is the healing in
2:09:43 your behalf is if it's a immediate cash
2:09:45 transaction if it's a future in the
2:09:47 interaction we have to see the
2:09:48 conditions of the future if it is the
2:09:50 so-called salam conditions and most
2:09:52 likely the conditions are the same
2:09:53 conditions they are fulfilled futures
2:09:55 are not a problem the problem mostly
2:09:57 futures again it is usually done on
2:09:59 margin and the loan is usually with
2:10:01 interest that's the main problem not
2:10:03 that it's for a data point
2:10:08 good
2:10:11 okay i think this is i think this
2:10:12 clarified this point so just continue
2:10:15 with your with your cash uh uh uh
2:10:18 what's his name uh forex and trades
2:10:22 with these conditions perfectly fine
2:10:23 there's no problem with nella
2:10:26 any other questions but with the
2:10:28 question are not related to today except
2:10:30 the matter of
2:10:32 people receiving
2:10:34 the witnesses of jehovah
2:10:37 related today to today's topic uh you've
2:10:40 mentioned that the uh
2:10:42 assyrian church
2:10:44 basically is uh the nestorian one could
2:10:47 i see that i think that's what i hear
2:10:49 somewhere
2:10:50 yes uh i just read something about that
2:10:53 uh a schism happened during the
2:10:56 16th century in the syrian church and
2:11:00 most of iraqi christians today identify
2:11:03 as uh chaldean
2:11:07 so they so they are the catholics who
2:11:10 has
2:11:11 gained the blessing of the
2:11:14 church yes
2:11:16 while there are
2:11:17 a small minority
2:11:19 still
2:11:20 who are identified as
2:11:22 assyrians uh syrians not nestorians okay
2:11:25 um because
2:11:26 there are a
2:11:28 big controversy within the church the
2:11:31 syrian church that uh whether they are
2:11:34 historians or not
2:11:36 so
2:11:38 so it's not very clear
2:11:41 time passes seem to be they were
2:11:43 nostalian at least yes
2:11:45 yes exactly
2:11:47 the same for example
2:11:48 the church of constantinople when they
2:11:50 split the thousand is not issued in
2:11:52 history and is the other issue about the
2:11:54 holy spirit is the equal rank to the sun
2:11:56 or not about the so-called the filocci
2:11:59 clause
2:12:00 that that the holy spirit proceeded from
2:12:02 the father and the son or just from the
2:12:04 father that's it
2:12:08 it's becoming to the level of of
2:12:11 of nonsensicality
2:12:16 starting with the contradictory entity
2:12:17 and then discussing even on this
2:12:19 contradiction how much more
2:12:20 contradiction you can develop
2:12:22 anyway
2:12:25 but i i know our christian listeners and
2:12:27 brothers may be upset about that but
2:12:29 that's that but that's the reality if
2:12:30 you start with the falsehood and
2:12:32 nintendo quarterly thing you can derive
2:12:34 anything any nonsense or any sense out
2:12:36 of it
2:12:38 okay yeah
2:12:41 okay
2:12:42 thank you
2:12:45 muhammad
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