Steven Crowder Challenges Muslim on Air (2018-05-04) ​

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This is a break down of the largely unchallenged claims of an right wing islamophobe.

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"Steven Crowder Challenges Muslim on Air," Crowder challenges a Muslim student to explain why the Quran allows for Muslims to fight non-Muslims. The student cites verses that say Muslims are allowed to fight in cases of oppression, and Crowder argues that these verses are not consistent with the rest of the Islamic text.

00:00:00 Steven Crowder challenges a Muslim on air to prove where he is wrong about Islam. The Muslim responds by pointing to a verse in the Qur'an that justifies violence against those who resist Islam. Crowder points out that this verse is only relevant if you believe that all of the religion is made for Allah, which most Muslims do not. The Muslim then argues that Christianity and other religions are also made for Allah, which Crowder disputes. Finally, the Muslim never responds to Crowder's arguments, instead choosing to change the topic.

• 00:05:00 , Steven Crowder challenges a Muslim on the air to prove that the Quran prescribes defensive wars. The Muslim fails to do so, and Crowder successfully refutes his claims. Crowder points to several verses in the Quran that specify the reasons behind fighting, and argues that the Quran allows for offensive wars as well.
• 00:10:00 conservative commentator Steven Crowder challenges a Muslim student on air to explain Quranic verses which dictate that Muslims are commanded to fight non-Muslims. The student cites verses which say that Muslims are allowed to fight non-Muslims in cases of oppression, and that the Prophet Muhammad said that anyone who kills a non-combatant non-believer will never smell the fragrance of heaven. This leads Crowder to assert that these verses are not consistent with the rest of the Islamic text, which prohibits killing anyone except in cases of war.

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0:00:00 read the quran if you're listening to0:00:02 this0:00:03 check the references learn the context0:00:06 so learn the verses and read beyond the0:00:09 verses learn the context0:00:11 fact check me please0:00:14 and prove me where i'm wrong i welcome0:00:16 it that's my challenge to you0:00:18 [Music]0:00:24 greetings of peace welcome to the dean0:00:27 show which is a way of life we try to0:00:28 put out there for everyone to see0:00:30 helping you understand0:00:31 islam and muslims how you doing muhammad0:00:34 good job my brother sorry0:00:36 okay how you been how you doing not bad0:00:38 on the dean's show0:00:40 yeah now there's a guy out there they0:00:42 call him louder than crowder stephen0:00:44 router0:00:45 is it something like that stupid crowd i0:00:46 think yeah brought to our attention0:00:49 and have you noticed there's a lot of0:00:50 people out there talking about islam we0:00:53 were uh with a friend yesterday0:00:55 and you had mentioned something0:00:56 brilliant you said that many people0:00:59 uh do you remember what you were talking0:01:01 about how people just0:01:02 you know just to stay like uh uh0:01:05 relevant0:01:05 relevant they have to like some0:01:07 dimension islam yeah0:01:08 why is this it's part of like what you0:01:11 were talking about before it's like0:01:11 there might0:01:12 it is an islamophobia machine at the0:01:14 moment isn't it so um0:01:16 i think nowadays islam is is undoubtedly0:01:19 part of the0:01:20 political narrative whether it be the0:01:22 western political narrative the middle0:01:24 eastern political narrative the asian0:01:25 political narrative0:01:26 and there's something that you know must0:01:28 be talked about and a lot of people that0:01:30 um come across as public intellectuals0:01:33 want to make sure that they0:01:34 they have their opinions on islam0:01:37 unfortunately the reality is a lot of0:01:38 people that do talk about islam0:01:40 are not people who have any knowledge of0:01:42 it and make incredible blunders0:01:44 yeah so the guy who was telling me about0:01:46 him chris he0:01:47 says you know this guy you got to look0:01:49 into uh0:01:50 steve crowder he has some good talking0:01:54 points on0:01:54 some other topics that he mentions yeah0:01:57 so the guy chris tells me he says that0:01:59 you met he says well but you got to0:02:01 correct him on islam0:02:02 right he said you got it this guy's0:02:04 totally again another person out of0:02:06 their lane0:02:06 absolutely you follow me so why don't we0:02:08 i thought it'd be a good idea let's see0:02:10 what he's talking about0:02:11 and let's uh talk to uh this uh stephen0:02:15 louder than crowder why not sounds good0:02:17 all right uh the meccans were also0:02:18 acting the defense of their religion0:02:19 since it was muhammad's goal he was0:02:21 planning on destroying their idols0:02:22 establishing islam0:02:23 by force hence this part of the verse is0:02:25 so critical0:02:27 because in the verse 839 where it says0:02:31 religion is only for allah meaning that0:02:34 the true justification of violence0:02:36 was unbelief of the opposition the0:02:39 justification for violence against them0:02:40 was simply0:02:41 unbelief muhammad further explains in in0:02:44 the sera0:02:45 allah must have no rivals so again we're0:02:48 coming back to0:02:48 there is no innocent non-muslim0:02:51 particularly0:02:52 if you resist islam0:02:55 not just being non-muslim but if you say0:02:57 you know what no i'm not i'm going to be0:02:58 a buddhist i'm going to be christian i0:02:58 mean0:02:59 that is evil you cannot be innocent so0:03:01 we need to drill this into you0:03:04 so you understand it more and more0:03:05 context next clip and he never responded0:03:08 to evil with evil0:03:10 but rather he pardoned and forgave0:03:13 what's this guy talking about well um0:03:15 this is a problem i mean this is a0:03:17 classical example0:03:19 of cherry picking a verse from a surah0:03:22 called suratul enfel0:03:24 a chapter of the quran chapter 8 of the0:03:25 quran to to further a political agenda0:03:28 so let's deal with the verse0:03:29 particularly directly right0:03:31 the verses0:03:36 that and fight them until there is no0:03:37 fitnah fitness means corruption0:03:39 yeah um and the exegetes say this means0:03:41 shirk which means0:03:43 polytheism and that all of the religion0:03:45 is made for allah first and foremost he0:03:46 didn't even0:03:47 um made for god yeah for the creator for0:03:50 the creator that's right because many0:03:51 people they think right away when you0:03:52 talk about allah this is some like0:03:53 different god0:03:54 yeah no that's that's a good point some0:03:55 people think it's a moon god or0:03:56 something isn't it so this is the guy0:03:58 because he's a christian0:03:59 right so this is the god of jesus the0:04:00 one jesus prayed to that's right0:04:02 right so we believe in the same god we0:04:04 don't believe in a triune god we don't0:04:06 believe jesus is god or the holy spirit0:04:08 is god0:04:08 but we believe in the creator of the0:04:09 universe his name is allah allah just0:04:12 means0:04:12 the god or literally the one worthy of0:04:14 worship is this the god0:04:16 and you can go back to this point in the0:04:17 lord's prayer oh our father0:04:19 if you change up to rabb who art in0:04:22 heaven0:04:23 hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come is0:04:25 this the god the same god0:04:26 that's the god we don't call him father0:04:27 like you mentioned but it's the same god0:04:29 of jesus basically0:04:31 why why don't if some christian says why0:04:32 don't you just call him father well we0:04:34 don't call him father because of the0:04:35 connotations that the word father has0:04:37 in chapter 112 of the quran says that he0:04:40 has0:04:40 he doesn't beget nor is he begotten so0:04:43 god we don't believe that he is a child0:04:44 of anyone nor does he have any children0:04:46 we think that this is a later historical0:04:48 development of the0:04:49 nicean council and that which came after0:04:52 it in terms of eco-medical councils0:04:53 and and when we say allah this is i mean0:04:56 you have opened up the0:04:57 arabic bible yeah and in genesis 170:05:01 times i think0:05:01 allah is used allah is used everywhere0:05:04 in the bible in the arabic bible0:05:05 jews are christians jews and christians0:05:07 use the word allah yeah to refer to god0:05:09 okay so this is the god the creator yeah0:05:12 okay please go ahead so going back to0:05:13 what we were talking about0:05:15 chapter eight of the quran first and0:05:16 foremost it's important to know the0:05:17 historical context so0:05:19 this surah came down um talking about a0:05:22 particular battle which was the first0:05:23 ever battle of the muslims called the0:05:24 battle of badr0:05:26 the battle of badr was actually a0:05:27 defensive war of the prophet muhammad0:05:29 salla islam0:05:30 whereby the people of mecca and he0:05:32 talked about the exile0:05:33 had just exiled the muslims they have0:05:36 been kicked out of their homes and then0:05:38 they had to set up base in another place0:05:39 which would then become the capital of0:05:41 the muslim0:05:42 uh world for a while which was medina0:05:44 medina was another city and0:05:46 what happened was they were coming0:05:48 offensively to attack the muslims0:05:50 and the muslims would uh respond so how0:05:53 do we actually substantiate that with0:05:54 the verses0:05:55 in that particular surah because0:05:56 someone's okay well you're being an0:05:58 apologist now you're trying to say0:05:59 something which is not historically0:06:00 correct well look at the verses itself i0:06:02 mean you don't just0:06:03 check chapter 8 verse 39 without0:06:05 checking chapter 8 verse 10:06:07 up until whatever is 70 whatever verses0:06:10 that are in the ver in the chapter0:06:12 so it's very clear that the context0:06:15 starts0:06:15 maybe around verse 8 or 9 um where it's0:06:18 talking about0:06:20 uh0:06:24 allah talks about a particular caravan0:06:27 or two0:06:28 two particular caravans um and he sets0:06:30 the context from there that's where the0:06:31 verse starts0:06:33 actually before that allah says um0:06:37 god almighty when we say it means god0:06:39 almighty0:06:40 he says that he caused you to come out0:06:43 of your home0:06:44 so in other words he was in a position0:06:46 of safety and the muslims were a0:06:47 position of safety and then he was0:06:48 caused to come out of their home0:06:52 and there were a portion of muslims that0:06:53 didn't want to do this they didn't even0:06:54 want to fight0:06:55 right because they felt like they were0:06:57 being attacked0:06:58 in chapter 30 of that particular surah0:07:01 allah0:07:02 says because now we're kind of building0:07:03 up the context right um0:07:15 that when the disbelievers planned0:07:18 against you o muhammad0:07:19 that they will grab you seize you or0:07:22 kill you0:07:23 or take you out of your homes0:07:28 that they planned and allah planned and0:07:29 allah is the best of planets in other0:07:31 words0:07:31 this again indicates the fact that the0:07:33 muslims were defensive because actually0:07:35 who was0:07:35 who are the ones making the plans to0:07:37 kill who the quran is explicit in saying0:07:39 that the0:07:40 the disbelievers or the polytheists of0:07:42 the time were the ones who are making0:07:44 the plans to attack the muslims0:07:46 then we lead up to verse 39 because it's0:07:48 once again it's not0:07:49 a verse in vacuum it's a verse in0:07:51 context right so we're trying to lead up0:07:53 to that0:07:54 verse 39 then tells us that0:07:58 in this context of war0:08:05 then fight those individuals i.e those0:08:07 people0:08:08 who are fighting you and how how can we0:08:10 also prove that this is0:08:12 a a war context in verse 57 of the same0:08:15 surah0:08:16 allah mentions the word in arabic which0:08:18 means war0:08:19 so the word war is explicitly mentioned0:08:21 and you'll find in verse 610:08:23 what's even more interesting it says0:08:24 where0:08:29 so if if they incline to peace0:08:33 then you should also incline to peace so0:08:35 when you look at the whole surah0:08:37 when you look at the whole chapter and0:08:38 when you look at all of these um0:08:40 these points you realize very quickly0:08:42 that this was a defensive war0:08:44 now we're not saying that islam only0:08:46 prescribes defensive wars0:08:48 we're just saying that if you put that0:08:50 in the context this particular verse in0:08:52 the context of what we're talking about0:08:53 this was a defensive war right that's0:08:55 point one point two what he said was0:08:57 absolutely one of the biggest blunders0:09:00 i've ever heard a commentator make of0:09:01 his0:09:02 um you know uh significance he's got a0:09:04 lot of0:09:05 viewers can't believe that he was able0:09:08 to get away with this0:09:09 he says the reason why muslims are0:09:13 killing non-muslims is because of their0:09:14 non-belief0:09:15 so if someone was a buddhist or0:09:17 something like that then they would be0:09:18 able to be killed0:09:20 this is absolutely false and can be0:09:21 refuted with two or three verses of the0:09:23 quran quite easily0:09:24 one of them is chapter 22 verse 390:09:28 where it says he says that basically0:09:32 it has been allowed permission has been0:09:34 given0:09:36 that means the permission has been given0:09:37 to the believers to fight0:09:41 because they have been oppressed so this0:09:44 is very significant why is it very0:09:45 significant0:09:46 because the reasoning because he says0:09:49 the reason right0:09:50 the quran says also the reason the0:09:52 reasoning behind fighting0:09:54 is given in this verse so in other words0:09:56 he's saying the reason0:09:58 that muslims are commanded were0:10:01 commanded historically to fight0:10:02 non-muslims0:10:03 was because they were not muslims the0:10:04 quran says otherwise the quran says0:10:06 the reason it says0:10:09 because they have been oppressed now0:10:11 this is extremely important0:10:14 because here the language that is used0:10:16 is there is couch now the quran is0:10:19 couching this in language of0:10:21 justification0:10:22 the syntax is a syntax which is couched0:10:26 or the phraseology used0:10:27 is phraseology which is couched in0:10:29 language of justification0:10:30 it's not language of kill them because0:10:32 they are non-muslims or disbelievers0:10:35 now that's a very important point to add0:10:37 to that you have chapter 60 verse 80:10:39 which we've mentioned in the previous0:10:41 show which is important to actually0:10:42 mention one more time on this0:10:43 it says0:10:51 that certainly allah does not disallow0:10:53 you from being just or being kind0:10:56 to the disbelievers they don't take you0:10:57 out of your home and they don't kill you0:10:59 that you be just to them and kind to0:11:00 them that allah certainly loves0:11:02 those who are just so in other words the0:11:05 two things which would enable someone0:11:07 to fight someone else who is an0:11:09 unbeliever say0:11:11 or even a believer in some cases in the0:11:12 quran chapter 49 it says you can muslims0:11:14 can fight each other in certain cases0:11:15 where there's transgression going on0:11:18 is if they're fighting is um if there is0:11:20 fighting0:11:21 so in other words if they're combatants0:11:23 or if0:11:24 or if they are trying to um physically0:11:27 take you out of your homes0:11:29 um so all of this and obviously chapter0:11:31 5 verse 320:11:33 um0:11:39 so whoever kills a person for um other0:11:42 than murder or creating corruption in0:11:43 the land0:11:44 as if they called all of humanity this0:11:46 is a verse which is not abrogated is0:11:48 still in place and includes muslims and0:11:50 non-muslims according to the consensus0:11:51 of the scholars0:11:52 all of these are verses which indicate0:11:54 that what this person is saying is not0:11:55 actually something0:11:56 you'll find if you look at the whole0:11:59 islamic corpus0:12:00 and we've just looked at the quran a0:12:03 a holistic if we look at it in a0:12:05 holistic way0:12:06 obviously i've mentioned this another in0:12:08 our previous video0:12:12 also we could mention the fact that the0:12:15 prophet muhammad saw i saw him he said0:12:21 that whoever kills a non-combatant0:12:24 non-believer0:12:25 he will not smell the fragrance of0:12:27 heaven0:12:28 muahid according to ibn0:12:31 who is the biggest scholar of0:12:34 interpretation of the hadith0:12:35 probably ever to write a commentary of0:12:38 the hadith in sunni muslim history0:12:40 called father he says this means someone0:12:44 who basically is either what he called a0:12:46 muslim0:12:47 or he this includes a muslim and0:12:51 someone who's within me so in other0:12:52 words anyone who there is a contract of0:12:55 um who is not a habit is a combatant0:12:58 so you could actually translate this0:13:00 hadith the saying of the prophet0:13:02 whoever kills a non-combatant0:13:05 he will never smell the fragrance of0:13:06 heaven non-combatant non-believer0:13:08 will never smell the fragrance of heaven0:13:10 so here the question is how can you0:13:11 explain those verses0:13:12 and and a hadith if you're if you're0:13:14 saying that the reason0:13:16 why muslims are instructed to kill0:13:19 non-believers0:13:20 is because they um they are0:13:24 non-believers0:13:24 how can you explain 22 39 where it says0:13:27 the reason is because they have been0:13:28 oppressed0:13:28 how can you explain chapter 60 verse 80:13:30 how can you explain chapter 50:13:32 32 how can you explain the hadith which0:13:34 says whoever whoever kills a0:13:35 non-combatant0:13:36 and non-believer they will never smell0:13:38 the fragrance of heaven you can't0:13:40 explain them0:13:40 that's the reality of it so it becomes a0:13:42 checkmate position for those individuals0:13:44 who are advocating0:13:46 the correct position of islam which is0:13:48 that we are not allowed to kill0:13:49 non-combatant0:13:50 non-believers we're not allowed to kill0:13:52 anybody in fact0:13:54 it's it's it's haram it's it's actually0:13:57 impermissible to kill anyone except in0:14:00 the context of war where there's a0:14:01 leader0:14:02 a muslim leader who is leading a muslim0:14:05 army etc