British Police Tell Muslim Not to Pray In SC (2018-04-16) #

0:00:00 not me not me some other brothers that
0:00:02 we're doing it so I want to ask him a
0:00:07 question though how much of the park
0:00:10 how much is under the world parks up to
0:00:14 which where's the more than flint the
0:00:15 street what's your surname okay so the
0:00:29 policy as far as we know it we looked at
0:00:31 it carefully it said that you know which
0:00:42 one so we can refer to here we said as
0:00:48 far as we know first and foremost this
0:00:50 Park which is under the crown whatever
0:00:54 was a charity yeah yes a role box it's
0:00:56 like six or seven bucks now already in
0:00:58 the official website yeah
0:01:00 what it said was that you're not allowed
0:01:02 to pray in congregation now the
0:01:05 information we've been given also from
0:01:07 other police officers is that individual
0:01:09 acts of worship do not go under that so
0:01:12 in other words if someone wants to over
0:01:14 their Christian Muslim or Jewish if they
0:01:15 want to pray individually yeah then
0:01:19 they're allowed to do so this is what I
0:01:22 have okay no bouquet so let's bring up
0:01:33 can you please bring out the thing the
0:01:35 whole parks thing cuz I want to read out
0:01:36 to you because here try to follow doctor
0:01:44 so a.m. police Jamil worried it
0:01:54 yeah they saying one you're not allowed
0:02:07 yeah we'll get a copy of an outer
0:02:09 shoulder can you bring it so you are you
0:02:35 the supervisor here yeah sergeant very
0:02:37 like the fruits okay okay can we get it
0:02:42 please
0:02:43 by the way this is no legislation
0:02:45 therefore for us to all we've been
0:02:47 notified as its policy mr. Jamil mr.
0:03:06 Jamil I'm going to read this out okay
0:03:09 this is hey look as you can see here
0:03:11 please it says religious activity in the
0:03:12 world parks to say the Royal Parks does
0:03:14 not permit collective acts of worship or
0:03:17 other religious observances in the TRPA
0:03:20 state either in their own right or as
0:03:22 part of a demonstration event or other
0:03:24 activity this includes spoken or sung
0:03:26 communal praise or other events that are
0:03:28 primarily religious and focus exceptions
0:03:31 are made for annual events etc and First
0:03:33 World War and then it continues it says
0:03:36 as a public body it is not the place of
0:03:38 the world parks to make value judgments
0:03:39 between one religious observance and
0:03:41 another we must either permit all
0:03:43 collective religious observances or
0:03:45 refuse them all our approach is to
0:03:47 continue to refuse all such observances
0:03:49 on the grounds that they are not
0:03:50 traditional park related activities and
0:03:53 the disadvantages to the public at large
0:03:55 of allowing them almost certainly
0:03:57 outweigh the benefits to the adherents
0:04:00 of particular religion or belief
0:04:02 the construction of structures within
0:04:05 the religious significance as you can
0:04:09 see because you're not in my presence
0:04:43 yes your jobs
0:04:48 policies or laws to enforce them I'm
0:04:53 saying is it's a should know your first
0:05:32 language which clearly isn't now the
0:05:35 opposite of collective is a individual
0:05:37 all right so if it's prohibiting
0:05:39 collective action which in an English
0:05:41 language could actually only mean two or
0:05:43 more okay you've prohibited an
0:05:46 individual action no I'm sorry but no no
0:05:54 no no that's what a policy says
0:05:57 collective acts of worship of a
0:05:59 religious nature are different to
0:06:00 individual acts of worship now what
0:06:02 we're saying is now hold on hold on is a
0:06:05 speaker's corner so what we're going to
0:06:06 say here we made an announcement this
0:06:08 morning very clear announces
0:06:11 afternoon that we will be willing to go
0:06:13 by the regulations of the park
0:06:15 Ono's is corrupt excuse me go leave now
0:06:19 having said that having said that we are
0:06:23 saying that we are willing to go with
0:06:24 the policies of the park and we said
0:06:26 that very clearly and it's on camera so
0:06:28 that all of the Muslims are aware that
0:06:30 we are law-abiding policy abiding
0:06:33 citizens that are willing to communicate
0:06:35 conciliate and reconcile with the police
0:06:37 forces and we've done that over and over
0:06:39 again
0:06:39 despite the right-wing aggressions and
0:06:41 all these things have happened in recent
0:06:43 weeks but there is a difference between
0:06:46 collective acts of worship and
0:06:48 individual acts of worship I believe
0:06:50 DeMille and Barry
0:06:51 that way you have to do now is offer
0:06:53 this man a public apology for stopping
0:06:56 him from praying wherein your rights you
0:06:58 had no reason to do that you're
0:07:00 inventing policy so I'm going to give
0:07:02 you a chance before this goes on some
0:07:04 kind of front page newspaper and you
0:07:05 lose your job so apologize to them and
0:07:07 go and leave so you think have you been
0:07:12 given instructions have you been given
0:07:14 instructions to stop individual acts of
0:07:16 worship
0:07:25 so you're an interpreter of policy so
0:07:41 your interpretation is that a singular
0:07:43 person whether they be Muslim Christian
0:07:44 or Jew and and they want to pray whether
0:07:47 they say oh Jesus or this and that so
0:07:49 why are you speakers corner them what
0:07:52 has it become if someone speaks and
0:07:56 prays at the same time what you're gonna
0:07:57 do so right now I'm praying Ya Allah are
0:08:00 you going to arrest me are you going to
0:08:02 advise me because for me praying
0:08:04 individually in Tel supplicating
0:08:07 is that right so if so what is the
0:08:11 difference between me saying orgy or our
0:08:14 Christian saying oh Jesus praying
0:08:15 individually and someone and this man
0:08:19 here wanting to perform acts of worship
0:08:20 and individually what has this become
0:08:23 what you do so mr. Barry and mr. Jimmy
0:08:38 Oh mr. Barry my friend hold on mr. Barry
0:08:42 and mr. Jimmy I would like to tell you
0:08:44 straightforwardly right here and right
0:08:45 now our policy in regards to the police
0:08:47 as the Muslims we have United and we
0:08:50 have actually put a three-strike policy
0:08:51 and I want to meet you to understand the
0:08:53 policy we have put to the Muslims that
0:08:55 they are not allowed to pray in
0:08:56 congregation because that's what the
0:08:58 rules are thank you very much for
0:09:01 thanking me but you also have to allow
0:09:02 me to express myself because this is
0:09:04 meant to be after all speaker's corner
0:09:06 now having said that no problem so here
0:09:14 what we're saying is that there is a
0:09:15 policy in place we've said we respect
0:09:17 that policy that's good we also said and
0:09:20 this is a clear message to the police is
0:09:23 that no mmm she take away I'm not sure
0:09:30 so anyways what we're saying is at the
0:09:34 end of the day what we're saying is as
0:09:35 Muslims as Muslims we've said there's a
0:09:38 three-strike policy the first strike
0:09:40 if then we have a panel of five Muslims
0:09:43 see we see that you are unjustly or
0:09:47 unequally treating Muslim fine today
0:09:51 there's been one strike already which is
0:09:53 going to go to the panel members where
0:09:55 there was a group of African Christians
0:09:57 singing and dancing which is on camera
0:09:59 and no one reprimanded them I haven't
0:10:01 seen so okay well you have to be a bit
0:10:03 more stringent about exercising your
0:10:04 policies
0:10:05 okay whilst you were here but now you
0:10:07 have to do the job mr. berry of going to
0:10:10 every religious group that want to go
0:10:12 and speak to that want to go and
0:10:14 congregate for religious purposes and
0:10:16 we're forcing the Lord justly and
0:10:18 equally because that's exactly what the
0:10:19 policy said if it's not for one
0:10:21 religious group
0:10:22 it's not funny religious group number
0:10:26 two thank you number two number two as
0:10:29 far as we are concerned
0:10:31 our interpretation we'll also consulted
0:10:33 legal put people yeah and Steve told us
0:10:35 and Stevens even told us ourselves so
0:10:38 there's a contradiction in your what
0:10:39 you're telling us praying individually
0:10:41 is not a problem within the Royal Parks
0:10:43 and there's nothing that you can say
0:10:44 today to change that reality so what our
0:10:47 message is to the Muslims is continue
0:10:49 continue to pay despite of what these
0:10:51 people are trying to say because we have
0:10:53 no reason we have no reason now from a
0:10:56 law perspective or from a policy
0:10:58 perspective to think otherwise all right
0:11:01 unless you get the wall parks to change
0:11:03 their stance on it then I would say
0:11:15 that's what we're going to continue to
0:11:17 have all right I'm gonna say we all pray
0:11:22 what I've the words I've used today in
0:11:24 this discourse with you is we are going
0:11:27 to pray individually so in other words
0:11:29 if there's one Muslim in one particular
0:11:41 you bring the Oxford Dictionary out or
0:11:43 if you bring the Collins dictionary out
0:11:45 or if you bring them
0:11:57 hey come on spit take cameras ok yes
0:12:02 guys this is becoming as you can see
0:12:06 here as you can see here it's becoming a
0:12:10 little bit pedantic and every week they
0:12:12 try and get one officer with a Muslim
0:12:15 name to try and put a little bit of
0:12:16 pressure on us to doing things which we
0:12:19 are not obliged to do either legally or
0:12:20 through the policies of the world park
0:12:23 regulation now as Muslims in this in
0:12:25 this day we start off this afternoon by
0:12:28 making a very straightforward claim that
0:12:30 will be willing to comply with the
0:12:35 regulation but now what's happening is
0:12:38 Nuremberg Laws file regulations are
0:12:40 signed to come from these police
0:12:42 officers who are started to reinvent
0:12:44 their own doors and exercise those laws
0:12:47 being judge jury judge jury and
0:12:52 executioner obviously they have no
0:12:54 legislative capabilities and so when the
0:12:56 law says collective we cannot interpret
0:12:59 an intervening individual in any way in
0:13:02 the English language unless you want to
0:13:04 change the English language to another
0:13:06 language do not continue to seemingly
0:13:09 because included to us Muslim community
0:13:12 we're trying to film under pressure now
0:13:13 they're not trying infringe upon our
0:13:15 right to do that that is what you see a
0:13:18 protest of the highest magnitude and
0:13:20 speakers for a history of the Muslims
0:13:22 and Ramadan is coming alive I think we
0:13:25 will make and we've never done this
0:13:26 before but we will make the biggest
0:13:28 collective worship and as a collective
0:13:30 again in opposition to the so-called
0:13:34 policies in this place will make us
0:13:36 write a worship here will make a sign a
0:13:38 worship or Sunday worship who will try
0:13:40 and make this place a mosque in so one
0:13:42 thing in don't test us and don't mess
0:13:45 with us because at the end of the day
0:13:46 when it comes to pushing Muslims your
0:13:48 things are otherwise or even in the
0:13:50 rules that's what
0:13:51 becomes corrupted or otherwise like
0:13:54 those development developing countries
0:13:56 that you like it's black to criticize so
0:13:59 having said that guys know full well
0:14:01 your limit so democratic your legal and
0:14:04 your and your your issue eliminations
0:14:08 police officers don't push it because
0:14:10 believe me we do have a right to protest
0:14:13 we do have our we understand our rights
0:14:14 we have lawyers amongst us and don't
0:14:16 don't think for a moment they will be
0:14:18 able to turn around and say thank you
0:14:21 very much and that's what we have to say
0:14:23 now so we have to say thank you very
0:14:26 much