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Advice to Yaqeen/Sh.Yasir Qadhi on LGBT (2022-06-23)

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Summary of Advice to Yaqeen/Sh.Yasir Qadhi on LGBT

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00:00:00 [00:15:00

Sh. Yasir Qadhi urges Muslims to change their attitude towards LGBT individuals, and to support religious institutions that help Muslims return to their roots. He cites the American Muslim civil rights activist Linda Sarsour as an example of an individual who is wearing a scarf and flirting with clandestine apostasy.

00:00:00 Discusses how some dawah organizations have been doing great work, but there are some approaches that need to be examined more closely. also lauds Jonathan Brown, Jacquin, and others for their work in the past.

  • 00:05:00 Discusses how Jonathan Brown, an American muslim, has argued that muslims should vote for homosexual marriage in America or else. also discusses how the level of shubha or doubt has been created on account of some of Jacquin's stances, and how the muslim community should apologize and clarify their stances on homosexuality.
  • 00:10:00 Sh. Yasir Qadhi advises Muslims against accepting LGBT individuals into their mosques, and recommends excommunication instead. He cites the American Muslim civil rights activist Linda Sarsour as an example of an individual who is wearing a scarf and flirting with clandestine apostasy. Qadhi says that this is an example of how LGBT individuals are putting Muslims "on the back foot" and "stripping them of the fake identity that they would be putting upon themselves."
  • 00:15:00 Sh. Yasir Qadhi encourages Muslims to change their attitudes and approach to LGBT issues, and to support religious institutions that help Muslims return to their roots.

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0:00:00 hey you are you wasting your time on0:00:02 social media again your brothers and0:00:04 sisters in islam net from norway are0:00:06 establishing a masjid a tawa center0:00:10 establishing a masjid to convey the0:00:11 message of islam is one of the best0:00:14 deeds a muslim can do there's a huge0:00:17 need for it in norway you know this and0:00:18 i know this so that makes the reward0:00:21 even greater so give generously and0:00:24 allah azzawajal will give you even more0:00:28 [Music]0:00:36 this is a follow-up video from one that0:00:38 i've done before about issues relating0:00:40 to lgbtq0:00:42 especially pertaining to the muslim0:00:43 community the tradition is muslim oh you0:00:45 just call it the muslim community and in0:00:48 the previous video that i made i was0:00:50 speaking particularly about some0:00:51 approaches of0:00:52 uh some dawah organizations0:00:55 um i mentioned ikna i mentioned yakreen0:00:57 i mentioned some figures0:00:59 of dawah like0:01:02 dr jonathan brown and other individuals0:01:05 who are i would consider big players in0:01:07 the tawa at least or in the public0:01:09 discourse and rightfully so because they0:01:11 have made many contributions which some0:01:14 of their detractors0:01:15 will never be able to make let alone0:01:17 have made in the past for example0:01:19 yesterday has done some great work0:01:22 especially relating to the seerah that0:01:24 he's put up in the english language i0:01:25 think i don't think0:01:26 almost anyone has done anything like0:01:28 that in terms of the effort and the0:01:30 output that was put into that and the0:01:32 originality and the0:01:33 research that must have been put into0:01:35 such a thing0:01:36 likewise0:01:38 he's done really great work and when it0:01:40 comes to the production quality of some0:01:42 of the things that have come up from0:01:42 japan i think everyone agrees that it's0:01:44 really brilliant and excellent and when0:01:46 he comes and0:01:48 speaks especially when he storytells and0:01:50 i have to say it's really really like0:01:52 inspirational the way he speaks about0:01:54 some of the prophets of the past and0:01:56 some of the companions of the past0:01:57 masha'allah is really it's excellent and0:01:59 jonathan brown an excellent a star a0:02:02 great academic who's done some really0:02:04 great work in the past and i think a lot0:02:05 of the detractors that do attack these0:02:07 people may have perverse intentions0:02:09 quite frankly i mean0:02:11 and0:02:12 i will repeat will not in the future0:02:15 let alone have in the past be able to0:02:17 produce anything like what these0:02:19 individuals have produced in terms of0:02:21 their contribution to the islamic0:02:22 discourse for the muslim people0:02:25 so we have benefited from that and i0:02:26 think it's important to start with that0:02:28 kind of recognition because these people0:02:30 have been in the dawa and in the public0:02:32 space much longer than we have and we0:02:35 uh you know have benefited i have0:02:36 personally benefited so much from all0:02:39 three individuals i must say0:02:41 and so i don't want anyone to think0:02:43 that this is trying to you know cancel0:02:46 them or something like this and0:02:47 what do we gain from that they're our0:02:49 friends we have a good personal0:02:50 relationship with them i've spoken to0:02:52 yesterday twice we've done two podcasts0:02:55 together jonathan brown has done a0:02:56 podcast with him we have a good personal0:02:58 relationship there's no need or reason0:03:00 or personal gain that i get from this at0:03:02 all0:03:04 at all the second thing i'll say is0:03:07 they've done great work and they0:03:08 continue to do great work and we don't0:03:09 want to disturb that great work0:03:12 not having said all that0:03:14 what i will say is this0:03:16 there are some approaches which need to0:03:18 be examined okay there are some0:03:20 approaches that need to be examined now0:03:21 recently i was very encouraged to find0:03:24 that after i done my first video0:03:27 that jacquin actually done a webinar0:03:30 uh0:03:32 sorry they've done webinar we are0:03:33 cleaned on a webinar0:03:35 on lgbtq uh issues i think that was the0:03:38 name of the webinar and they did clarify0:03:41 a lot a lot of things they clarified the0:03:43 ah cam of same-sex relationships and so0:03:46 on and i was very encouraged to see this0:03:48 uh clarification and unhappy and really0:03:52 i i i salute the the effort and commend0:03:55 it uh genuinely i'm not just saying i'm0:03:57 not just saying that and even0:03:59 came out and made a video about0:04:00 transgenderism and the fetus on on that0:04:03 and so on and honestly i really0:04:06 appreciate the self-reflective nature of0:04:09 the institute that you've been able to0:04:10 do all that kind of thing0:04:12 but what i will say is this0:04:15 the level of clarification there's a0:04:17 question i have to you0:04:19 is the level of clarification0:04:23 in line or commensurate with the level0:04:26 of0:04:26 doubt or shubha that has been created0:04:28 this is a question for me to you is the0:04:31 level of clarification that has been0:04:32 provided0:04:33 commensurate0:04:34 or0:04:36 with the level of subha that has been0:04:37 created now you may ask why should there0:04:40 be such a subha when we have0:04:42 consistently made0:04:44 you know our points clear on the ham of0:04:46 same-sex relationships i'll tell you why0:04:49 and since i've had these0:04:50 conversations online public0:04:52 conversations which are which are on the0:04:54 public record which people can watch0:04:56 i'll give you three examples of it in0:04:59 fact0:05:00 the level of shubha or doubt has been0:05:02 created on account0:05:04 of some of the stances that jacquin have0:05:06 taken0:05:07 for example jonathan brown made an0:05:10 article0:05:11 or has written an article that was then0:05:13 put onto jaquin which argued for the0:05:16 case of us supporting as the muslim0:05:18 community same-sex marriage0:05:20 now he says it wasn't an islamic case0:05:22 and he put so many caveats it wasn't0:05:25 quid pro quo and it wasn't this and so0:05:27 on0:05:28 nevertheless0:05:29 it was an article that argued that0:05:31 muslim people should vote for homosexual0:05:35 marriage in america or maybe elsewhere0:05:37 okay0:05:39 and it was on a0:05:41 website of an organization which was0:05:43 meant to represent the interests of the0:05:45 muslim people and it was really0:05:47 an apolo it is really an apologetic0:05:49 organization which was meant to deal0:05:51 with the doubts of the people0:05:53 if it is a political0:05:55 article what is it doing0:05:57 on0:05:58 an islamic website0:06:01 isn't that shopper that is being created0:06:04 so the question now which begs itself0:06:07 is0:06:08 can muslim people support such a thing0:06:09 which is antithetical to their own0:06:11 beliefs are you telling me that such a0:06:12 thing was not a supper it was a supper0:06:15 and the evidence of that0:06:16 is that it was removed subsequently0:06:19 after these discussions were had in the0:06:21 public sphere after we had him on the mh0:06:23 podcast after the muslim community0:06:25 wasn't buying quite frankly the series0:06:27 of justifications that jonathan brown0:06:29 has put forward0:06:31 it was removed but was removed without0:06:33 clarification0:06:35 it was removed without consolation it0:06:37 was removed without retraction formal0:06:39 retraction it was just0:06:41 inconsequent conspicuously removed0:06:44 and is that enough is that sufficient0:06:46 for the muslim community i i say no it's0:06:49 not enough after you've done something0:06:51 like that which no muslim scholar in the0:06:52 history of islam has argued0:06:55 you make an argument that no0:06:57 precedent has been given for0:06:59 jurisprudentially0:07:01 and then you just remove it and then no0:07:03 clarification is given i think that is0:07:05 quite frankly not fair on the muslim0:07:07 community0:07:09 a second example is there's an entire0:07:11 framework that0:07:12 man has put forward on fruitful0:07:14 coalition building he calls it and it's0:07:16 still up there now and he's got levels0:07:19 of it and we're seeing almost0:07:21 you know shake hands and hold hands and0:07:23 so on with members of the lgbtq0:07:26 community0:07:27 walking in the parades and doing these0:07:29 practices and rituals and all these kind0:07:30 of things which has been refuted for and0:07:32 rightfully so quite frankly0:07:35 and then0:07:37 where is i mean is the level of0:07:39 apology and the level of clarification0:07:41 was it0:07:43 was it in line with that you have to ask0:07:45 yourself that question you have to ask0:07:47 yourself that question0:07:49 secondly0:07:50 why is it the case that the only0:07:53 relationship that the big players of0:07:56 american da'wah have had with0:07:58 homosexuals is one where they're a0:08:01 either on the back foot or b trying to0:08:03 build coalitions is this really the0:08:05 quranic model0:08:08 well it's not0:08:20 is that we the only thing the muslims0:08:22 are doing with0:08:23 individuals who are self-proclaimed0:08:26 happily homosexuals is this0:08:31 i don't think you'd sorry to say i'm0:08:32 sorry i'm so sorry i don't think you0:08:34 would endorse that in the least0:08:37 why have you never given doubt why have0:08:38 we never seen any of you give dawah0:08:41 to individuals who are exhibiting this0:08:43 feeling0:08:44 from the non-muslim community0:08:46 true relationship building0:08:50 is not having a phony relationship based0:08:52 on disingenuous beliefs0:08:56 or that you try and put the elephant0:08:57 under the carpet or something0:09:00 no0:09:01 true relationship building is where you0:09:03 agree to disagree0:09:05 that is why0:09:06 the homosexual community some of which0:09:09 they have no problem with me0:09:10 it's all for the public record to see0:09:12 i've had conversations with them in the0:09:14 public space0:09:15 and after i've explained to them my0:09:18 entire ethos and my all my beliefs0:09:21 it's still agreed to disagree and it's0:09:22 actually happy days because there is0:09:24 tolerance in that community i mean it's0:09:25 not like they're completely intolerant0:09:26 to the muslim people do you have such0:09:29 uh maybe0:09:30 fear that they'll you'll be rejected by0:09:32 them that you cannot even engage with0:09:34 them in a positive manner telling them0:09:35 what islam is0:09:37 why have we not seen one0:09:40 single video0:09:42 or something on the public record where0:09:44 you are challenging the beliefs0:09:46 and the stances and the practices of0:09:48 those individuals who we call brothers0:09:51 and sisters in humanity0:09:52 if you really want the best for someone0:09:54 you share what you think you have with0:09:56 them0:09:57 it's not it's0:10:00 that's the second criticism so this is a0:10:02 weak0:10:02 approach and this weakness was exhibited0:10:06 for all to see0:10:08 in the following clip which i found was0:10:11 well when i first saw it i was very0:10:13 upset and angered on behalf of shaykh0:10:16 let's watch let's watch the clip0:10:17 together do you see how that's0:10:19 problematic for a lot of people0:10:20 listening who'll say you say they're0:10:21 welcome in your mosque but they're0:10:22 welcome as sinners and that0:10:24 well it's not it's not our it's not our0:10:27 uh job to judge others i'm willing to0:10:29 allow them their rights are they willing0:10:31 to allow me my rights when you say0:10:32 you're willing to allow them their0:10:33 rights their political rights0:10:35 do you support same-sex marriage i0:10:36 support the notion that the american0:10:38 government is not in charge of morality0:10:40 so you're not opposed to same-sex0:10:42 marriage0:10:43 politically yes but but morally i i0:10:46 don't agree with this so there's a0:10:47 there's a difference0:10:48 of the land you're not complaining0:10:50 do you think0:10:52 that0:10:53 this is fair0:10:54 that a member of the0:10:57 so-called scholarly classes0:10:59 the high echelons of islamic0:11:01 intellectuality0:11:04 is put in front of an individual0:11:06 actually two of them but let's focus on0:11:08 linda0:11:09 an individual who is flirting with0:11:12 clandestine apostasy0:11:16 and that she's putting you on the back0:11:17 foot0:11:20 well it breaks my heart to see that0:11:23 she's putting you on the back foot0:11:25 and she's mentioning things which have0:11:27 in them the potential for riddha0:11:30 apostasy and they're going unchallenged0:11:32 this is an individual who's wearing a0:11:34 head scarf0:11:35 she's in front of a man of deen religion0:11:38 and she's saying we basically it's a0:11:40 paraphrase that she thinks the cause of0:11:42 homosexuality is the same islamic cause0:11:44 you put that to linda you're an american0:11:45 muslim civil rights activist you0:11:47 campaign against islamophobia in favor0:11:49 of muslim civil rights but you also0:11:50 campaign against homophobia and in favor0:11:53 of lgbt rights do you see that as all0:11:55 part of the same struggle0:11:57 absolutely and i will say this about0:11:58 american muslims there has not been any0:12:00 coordinated coordinated campaign0:12:02 oppositional to the supreme court um0:12:04 decision for same-sex marriage and0:12:06 you're not correcting that in fact0:12:07 you're just revere you're talking about0:12:09 your own track record and defending0:12:10 yourself yeah not even islam but quite0:12:12 frankly yourself well let me put that0:12:14 point to it well that's exactly what0:12:15 i've been doing linda if you actually0:12:16 listen to the lectures that are on0:12:18 youtube uh i would say i'm one of the0:12:19 very few clerics that have very publicly0:12:22 said do you think this is going to give0:12:24 islam and muslims0:12:29 it is a failed approach and it's not an0:12:32 approach that is going to yield any uh0:12:34 positive effects0:12:36 and it's likely to0:12:38 mark all of the good work you've done0:12:40 elsewhere0:12:41 and i see that as a real tragedy in fact0:12:43 and it hurts me to say it0:12:46 it hurts me to say it but i'm angered0:12:48 and disappointed0:12:50 and i never saw this video before i only0:12:51 saw this quite recently when i saw it i0:12:53 was very disappointed when i0:12:55 to see a woman like that yeah0:12:58 a woman like that0:13:00 yanni put you on the back foot yes0:13:03 in that way0:13:04 yeah and you couldn't even ask a couple0:13:06 of questions that would have put her0:13:07 directly on the back foot do you0:13:08 consider homosexuality as a sin0:13:10 it would have it would have if she said0:13:12 yes0:13:13 then it would so how do you0:13:15 then you can follow up if she said no0:13:17 then you can excommunicate her you can0:13:20 excommunicate from the fault of islam0:13:22 after you do it kamas alhaja and then0:13:24 you put her in the back foot again you0:13:26 you strip her of the fake identity that0:13:28 then she would be putting upon herself0:13:30 this is the isa we require this is the0:13:33 clear-cut0:13:34 straight talking kulu kola and sadida0:13:36 that we need0:13:38 it's not fair that the muslims have this0:13:41 level of representation quite frankly on0:13:43 issues so0:13:44 topical as these0:13:46 and then you know and then confusion is0:13:49 put in the atmosphere so i've given you0:13:50 three clear cut examples0:13:54 of why the shah as is as it is0:13:57 why the doubt has been created in the0:14:00 minds of the muslims the issue is not0:14:02 just an issue of ideology0:14:05 or belief0:14:06 the issue is also an issue of attitude0:14:10 what made the civil rights movement so0:14:12 successful was not just the arguments0:14:14 that0:14:15 black people were making say for example0:14:16 in the 1960s0:14:19 it was the spirit that they came with0:14:20 the attitude that they came with0:14:22 the confidence that they came with0:14:25 if they had placid and docile and timid0:14:28 and weak attitudes and their temperament0:14:31 wasn't fit for purpose the civil rights0:14:33 movement wouldn't be what it is0:14:36 no change would have been made0:14:38 if they had shaken hands with the wrong0:14:40 people or tried to take protection and0:14:42 seek shelter from individuals who in0:14:45 their reality don't want the best for0:14:47 the for their own communities0:14:49 it wouldn't have been as successful as0:14:50 it is he tell you and all of us0:14:54 that these people are the sheep0:14:56 or the wolves in sheep sheep's clothing0:15:00 and he would tell us0:15:02 if you take inspiration from him0:15:06 to seek self-sufficiency0:15:09 after0:15:10 allah0:15:12 so this is my final advice0:15:15 my final advice to you guys0:15:17 is don't just change your approach which0:15:20 of course you do need to change0:15:23 you need to be more polemical forthright0:15:25 you need to put your position forward0:15:28 put them on the back foot0:15:30 but not just that change your attitudes0:15:33 because if you don't start0:15:35 having a confident attitude to these0:15:38 issues0:15:40 our people will suffer0:15:43 our people will suffer0:15:45 more than they have already suffered0:15:51 your brothers and sisters in islam net0:15:53 from norway are establishing a masjid a0:15:56 dhawa center0:15:57 this center this masjid this educational0:16:00 institution will act like a beacon of0:16:03 light calling the muslims in norway back0:16:06 to the essence of islam so give0:16:08 generously and allah will give you even0:16:11 more0:16:24 you