Reacting to Young Earth Creationist Ken Ham "Dinosaurs are 6000 years old" (2021-05-09) #

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0:00:49 how are you guys doing i'm here joined
0:00:51 with the beast the daoa beast
0:00:54 he is a man who has created a legacy for
0:00:57 himself
0:00:58 even though he doesn't like to be in
0:00:59 front of the camera zeeshan
0:01:02 [Laughter]
0:01:06 you know that never gets old yeah yeah
0:01:09 how's it going
0:01:16 all right so basically i've always
0:01:17 wanted to do a response to this guy
0:01:19 right
0:01:19 this guy ken ham who is a young age
0:01:21 creationist and
0:01:23 just to give people a background as to
0:01:24 what young age creationism is
0:01:26 it's a group of protestants for the most
0:01:29 part right who believe that the universe
0:01:31 is 6 000 years old based on the
0:01:33 accounts of genesis chapter 5 and
0:01:35 because of other things
0:01:36 for example what church fathers have
0:01:38 said majority of which probably would
0:01:39 concur with that view
0:01:41 and many of the kind of scholars of
0:01:44 christianity
0:01:45 throughout the reform period etc so they
0:01:47 have a strong case from their own
0:01:48 paradigm in fact they have probably
0:01:50 the winning case from their own paradigm
0:01:52 but
0:01:53 what what that that entails believing
0:01:55 that the universe is six thousand years
0:01:57 is uh denial of certain things which we
0:02:01 may think
0:02:02 are undeniable so let's i wanted to look
0:02:04 at today what he thinks about dinosaurs
0:02:06 okay interesting dinosaurs well dinosaur
0:02:09 quite million years old oh
0:02:10 oh it can't be sorry my bad
0:02:15 six i mean six thousand years old five
0:02:17 thousand five hundred fifty what
0:02:22 really happened to the dinosaurs
0:02:25 many people are perplexed by the topic
0:02:27 of dinosaurs where did they come from
0:02:30 when did they live what happened to them
0:02:32 you see when you dig up a dinosaur
0:02:34 skeleton
0:02:34 it doesn't come with a label attached
0:02:36 saying hi i'm 65 million years old and
0:02:38 this is what happened to me
0:02:41 a skeleton in relation to the past so
0:02:43 where did dinosaurs come from
0:02:45 what happened to them when did they live
0:02:47 i want to show you that when you take
0:02:49 god at his word
0:02:50 in the book of genesis that we can
0:02:52 explain dinosaurs and
0:02:54 observational science actually confirms
0:02:56 that explanation based upon the bible
0:02:59 so but by the way um he
0:03:02 redefines everything right so when he
0:03:03 talks about observational science he's
0:03:04 talking about what we observe
0:03:06 he he he denies the fact that any
0:03:08 inference can be made from science
0:03:10 so for him he he writes this in his book
0:03:12 he's written a book on this
0:03:14 and he talks about he's got his own kind
0:03:16 of categorization chem
0:03:17 kem ham does the thing is to be honest
0:03:20 it's not like there's no scope
0:03:22 in christianity for saying that the yom
0:03:24 because the word yom is actually used in
0:03:26 the quran
0:03:26 and also used in the genesis account as
0:03:28 well it's exactly the same word in
0:03:29 hebrew as yom
0:03:31 could mean a long period of time but for
0:03:33 them it's not that
0:03:34 it's it's genesis chapter 5 right which
0:03:36 talks about because what
0:03:37 if you look at genesis chapter 5 you'll
0:03:39 see it's like adam
0:03:40 and then his son was this person and
0:03:42 then it's a genealogy and they have
0:03:44 dates
0:03:44 and then i have dates like each so it's
0:03:46 like every person is like 130 years
0:03:48 between the first person 100 and
0:03:49 whatever he is
0:03:49 and so they add it up so this person
0:03:51 called asha and bishop asha
0:03:53 famously he he found out when the
0:03:55 beginning of the world was and so on so
0:03:57 this is where he's coming from
0:03:58 and it's true to say the vast majority
0:04:00 if not i think all of them except for
0:04:02 the
0:04:02 alexandrian school of church fathers
0:04:05 believed uh
0:04:06 would concur with this uh if not they
0:04:08 didn't have anything to say about it but
0:04:09 the reformist kind of theologians and
0:04:12 stuff they believe in that as well so
0:04:14 6 000 year old thing it might seem
0:04:16 trivial to us now we're having a laugh
0:04:18 but this was i would say the vast
0:04:20 majority opinion
0:04:21 in christendom so it's orthodox belief
0:04:24 it's an orthodox belief yes
0:04:25 interesting see the bible tells us that
0:04:28 god made
0:04:28 the land animals on day six of creation
0:04:32 and who else was created on day six well
0:04:34 adam and eve
0:04:35 and how long ago was that it's really
0:04:37 interesting because the bible does talk
0:04:39 about
0:04:40 uh the kind of uh day by day creation
0:04:43 everyone knows this
0:04:44 the thing is it's so contradictory like
0:04:46 when you open it's not only is
0:04:48 it's contradictory to the external
0:04:49 reality or archaeological or
0:04:50 paleontological evidence yeah
0:04:52 but it's contradictory of itself like
0:04:54 for example in the bible it says that
0:04:55 day and night were created on the first
0:04:56 day
0:04:57 and that on day four yeah okay uh on day
0:05:01 four the luminaries were created so the
0:05:02 sun and
0:05:03 all these kinds of things were created
0:05:04 right and so the question would be how
0:05:06 can you have night and day without the
0:05:07 sun
0:05:08 right how can you have and then you
0:05:09 talked about the vegetation right
0:05:10 vegetation
0:05:11 and that was created with the vegetation
0:05:13 on in genesis chapter 1 verse 11
0:05:15 that was created on uh on the fourth day
0:05:17 i think it was or
0:05:18 whatever third day of mountain right but
0:05:20 then in genesis chapter two verse five
0:05:22 no plant has sprung up yet yeah so
0:05:25 you have contradictions within and so
0:05:27 much so the origin of alexandria who is
0:05:29 an allegorist
0:05:30 for the most part he spiritualized the
0:05:32 meanings of the text he looked at me and
0:05:33 said what man of intelligence
0:05:35 i'm gonna put these references in the
0:05:36 comment section below what man of
0:05:38 intelligence
0:05:39 would believe that the luminaries were
0:05:40 created on the fourth day and that the
0:05:43 night and they were creating the first
0:05:44 day so you have internal contradictions
0:05:46 yes
0:05:47 okay and then you have external problems
0:05:48 as well so this has led these kinds of
0:05:50 people
0:05:51 to just stick to their guns and say it
0:05:52 must be science that's wrong
0:05:54 okay i must be history that's wrong it
0:05:55 must be paleontology that's wrong it
0:05:57 must be archaeology that's wrong all of
0:05:58 those things are right
0:05:59 and we are right that's interesting from
0:06:01 i think there's a little bit of credit
0:06:02 needs to be given because they didn't
0:06:04 feel
0:06:04 insecure they said no the bible is i do
0:06:06 agree yeah however
0:06:08 the fact that you accept bible to be
0:06:10 true yes shows that the bible is not
0:06:12 true
0:06:13 right does that make sense so for
0:06:14 example they're saying look we're not
0:06:15 going to go and be like changing words
0:06:16 god's word
0:06:17 we're going to stick to it but the fact
0:06:18 that you stick to it shows that it's not
0:06:20 the word
0:06:20 right right it's interesting uh paradox
0:06:22 yeah it is interesting yeah well when
0:06:24 you add up all the dates in the bible
0:06:25 about 6 000 years
0:06:27 so taking guided his word in genesis
0:06:29 dinosaurs lived beside people
0:06:31 about 6 000 years ago and they were
0:06:34 vegetarian to start with genesis chapter
0:06:36 1 verse 29
0:06:37 tells us that all the animals are
0:06:39 vegetarian but then adams
0:06:40 can we just say one more thing bro about
0:06:42 this guy yeah answers in genesis is one
0:06:45 of the most
0:06:46 well-funded organizations in the united
0:06:48 states of america yeah okay
0:06:50 when i looked at the numbers i think the
0:06:52 turnover was something like 100 million
0:06:53 charity
0:06:54 100 million that's one-tenth of a
0:06:56 billion pounds
0:06:57 no there's no dour organization on the
0:06:59 face of the earth which comes
0:07:01 close to that comes close to that and
0:07:04 these guys have a museum
0:07:05 okay they have a museum where they
0:07:07 depict adam and eve and
0:07:08 uh and you know the dinosaurs yeah side
0:07:12 by side
0:07:12 these kinds of things bro but you know
0:07:15 we can watch a little bit more of this
0:07:16 what can we say because we were just
0:07:18 having a conversation about this before
0:07:19 the show
0:07:20 yeah yeah you know but christianity is
0:07:22 based on the resurrection isn't it
0:07:24 and if you believe in the resurrection
0:07:26 it's a historical event yes
0:07:28 so really if you don't believe in it
0:07:30 you're doomed to hell fire you have that
0:07:32 it's a mainstream christian belief
0:07:33 right so if you're if you're if you're
0:07:35 doomed to hell fire for
0:07:37 not believing in a historical event yeah
0:07:40 if you have skepticism think of it this
0:07:41 way
0:07:42 if you have skepticism towards a
0:07:43 historical event which in this case is
0:07:45 the resurrection
0:07:48 and if you employ the same skepticism to
0:07:50 the date of 6 000 years
0:07:51 one of one of those types of historical
0:07:53 skepticism will take you to hell
0:07:55 in the case of uh believing that the
0:07:57 universe is six thousand years that's
0:07:59 not a problem
0:07:59 but believing that having historical
0:08:02 skepticism of the resurrection
0:08:03 that one will take you to hell yeah
0:08:04 exactly so basically you have to be
0:08:06 certain as hell
0:08:07 of the resurrection or you go hell you
0:08:10 know you know
0:08:11 the truth is that yeah you have to be
0:08:12 certain as hell yeah if you're not
0:08:13 certain as hell yeah
0:08:14 you go in hell
0:08:17 that's what it is and then when it comes
0:08:19 to this yeah um
0:08:20 and and the thing is you know it's it
0:08:22 just shows you the contradiction you
0:08:24 know
0:08:24 hypocrisy yes you know and to be honest
0:08:26 you know some people come to us we speak
0:08:27 to people in the park in the speakers
0:08:28 one and they come to us and say
0:08:30 you know the resurrection is for certain
0:08:32 yes would you say from your experience
0:08:34 dealing with people that that could be
0:08:35 the central argument for the veracity of
0:08:38 christianity
0:08:39 they want to proof christianity through
0:08:40 the resurrection yeah exactly if that's
0:08:42 their central argument it's a historical
0:08:43 argument right yeah yeah so okay on the
0:08:44 one hand we can be
0:08:46 we can't be skeptical when it comes to
0:08:48 these reports contradictory reports in
0:08:49 the new testament
0:08:50 about the resurrection which by the way
0:08:52 on his historical analysis
0:08:54 methodological naturalism is uh supreme
0:08:57 so we can't even say that supernatural
0:08:58 things happen
0:08:59 okay if we wanted to be completely you
0:09:02 know in line with secular reasoning
0:09:03 which we're not to be
0:09:04 we can give it to them no problem but at
0:09:06 the end of the day
0:09:08 we can't be skeptical of the
0:09:09 resurrection yeah but you can be
0:09:11 skeptical to the entire enterprise of
0:09:13 archaeology and the entire enterprise of
0:09:15 paleontology
0:09:16 the entire enterprise of history and one
0:09:18 of those types of skepticism
0:09:19 will lead you in an internal doom and
0:09:22 burning in the hellfire yeah and the
0:09:24 other one won't yeah exactly and that's
0:09:25 what
0:09:26 that's beautiful you know about islam
0:09:27 hamdulillah you know then they are
0:09:29 allah doesn't uh test like christianity
0:09:32 you deny the resurrection it's finished
0:09:33 for you
0:09:34 islam allah says we do not punish a
0:09:36 nation until we send the messenger
0:09:37 you know islam is very unique in that
0:09:39 subhanallah that no one will be
0:09:40 punished unless they because it's the
0:09:42 mercy of god and i'll be honest with you
0:09:43 a lot of people come to me
0:09:44 with a resurrection thing and they're
0:09:45 very certain about it and then the quran
0:09:47 came down
0:09:48 600 years later and change the whole
0:09:50 narrative and to me
0:09:52 in a nutshell if the quran is the word
0:09:53 of god and who knows best history but
0:09:55 god
0:09:56 you know so if the quran is a word of
0:09:58 god and allah is saying that
0:09:59 jesus peace be upon him was not killed
0:10:01 not crucified but allah saved him
0:10:03 i'm going to go with that you know so if
0:10:05 there's christians watching this
0:10:06 you know at the end of the day if you're
0:10:07 going to put your trust in this
0:10:09 you know if you're going to not deny the
0:10:11 resurrection there is absolute hypocrisy
0:10:13 with the whole genesis
0:10:14 account so to us is if you read the book
0:10:16 of the quran
0:10:17 and you if you believe it to be god and
0:10:19 there's evidences that prove that you've
0:10:21 done reading books
0:10:21 you've released a book um i've got a
0:10:23 booklet which i'm gonna put it on the
0:10:25 description box as well for the
0:10:26 evidences for the truth of islam exactly
0:10:28 so then who knows best history but god
0:10:30 and if god is telling you
0:10:31 jesus was not killed nor was he
0:10:33 crucified i'm sorry i'm taking that to
0:10:35 account
0:10:35 rather than this the whole bible
0:10:38 you know what you said that i think
0:10:39 that's right it's a good point yeah it
0:10:41 was good to end with this as well
0:10:42 yeah that what you could say you can
0:10:45 make the argument if
0:10:46 if we have to believe in the
0:10:46 resurrection to be christians yes
0:10:49 so really christianity is based on
0:10:50 historical event yeah whereas the
0:10:52 difference between christianity and
0:10:53 islam from that perspective
0:10:55 is that islam is based on a concept and
0:10:58 the concept is submission to one god
0:11:01 yes submission worship one god yeah
0:11:04 right
0:11:05 and that i think is the main difference
0:11:06 between the two religions yeah
0:11:08 exactly so yeah brother and sister you
0:11:10 know if you're watching as a christian
0:11:11 uh there's books i'm sure you're gonna
0:11:12 put in the link which you can get um and
0:11:14 you know
0:11:14 and read that and see for yourself uh
0:11:16 and like i said before guys the best
0:11:18 person to know history and what really
0:11:20 happened to jesus peace be upon him
0:11:22 if you go to the bible you you're a bit
0:11:23 of it you're a dilemma from all angles
0:11:25 yeah is true if i read if i reject the
0:11:27 resurrection which i do
0:11:28 i'm doomed to hell and it's based on
0:11:30 accounts which are you know mark matthew
0:11:32 their stories contradict each other so
0:11:35 guys
0:11:35 if the word if the quran is a word of
0:11:37 god and god knows
0:11:39 history which he does he's the unknowing
0:11:41 go and find out really what happened to
0:11:43 jesus peace be upon him
0:11:44 and instead of worshiping him worship
0:11:47 the one who created him and that's it
0:11:52 pleasure