Hadith Preservation & Controversial Questions to Mufti Muneer (MH Podcast #7) (2020-07-14) #

0:00:00 I said I wanna come on to level 2
0:00:06 Catalan how you guys doing this is the
0:00:08 seventh episode of the mah podcast and
0:00:10 I'm joined by a very special guest move
0:00:13 team on there who is otherwise known as
0:00:16 these disciple he's a graduate from the
0:00:20 studio of the voice of Madinah and he's
0:00:24 well known as well for his excellent
0:00:27 loose on hadith disciple YouTube channel
0:00:31 that correct son namely YouTube channel
0:00:32 yeah that's right that's right
0:00:35 and so actually one of the things that
0:00:38 he's known for is being the kind of
0:00:40 pragmatism self synthesized Islamic
0:00:43 knowledge with practical knowledge of
0:00:45 the world and be very much flexible in
0:00:49 terms of his understanding of the
0:00:50 religion and balance in his approach
0:00:53 when dealing with very controversial
0:00:54 issues pleasure to have you on the show
0:00:57 pleasure to be hosting thank you I
0:00:59 really I really appreciate it
0:01:00 I'm doing that like the last time we in
0:01:04 America wasn't it San Francisco right
0:01:06 yes I think it was what was the San
0:01:09 Francisco it was a Sacramento that's
0:01:12 right in the debate with a blush and you
0:01:16 were there pleasure pleasure to come
0:01:26 back to you cake fights open up you know
0:01:30 me now I think the fights open now yeah
0:01:34 so when we already you know for 14 days
0:01:39 hey why wanted to start off by asking
0:01:42 and is obviously you go through a
0:01:44 rigorous process of lash student of
0:01:47 knowledge type material and you enter
0:01:51 the university you've done studies there
0:01:53 if someone wants to start now learning
0:01:57 the religion of Islam understanding the
0:01:58 Quran and the Sunnah what kind of plan
0:02:01 would you put for them in place what
0:02:03 kind of thing would you put for them why
0:02:04 should they start this is a question a
0:02:06 lot of people ask why should we start in
0:02:08 terms of understanding the Dean
0:02:10 recommend what kind of
0:02:12 program would you recommend for them
0:02:14 clear miss nila hamdulillah I would say
0:02:17 um it's a fork in the road you either
0:02:21 want to be you have the availability of
0:02:24 a teacher yeah
0:02:26 a mentor a guy regardless of the level
0:02:29 someone's with you all the time so once
0:02:32 a week once a month even online or
0:02:34 you're totally self-taught and you don't
0:02:37 have a teacher available you don't have
0:02:39 a structured program in front of you
0:02:40 available and sometimes in 2020 in a
0:02:44 virtual war Koba 19 will have a mixture
0:02:48 of the two I have a teacher in person
0:02:51 but also have access to a wealth of
0:02:53 knowledge a wealth of recordings lessons
0:02:56 et Cie so if you have a teacher and an
0:03:00 instructor in person we're talking about
0:03:02 a real life person then of course best
0:03:05 to ask them and that didn't guide you
0:03:07 and let them summarize and break down
0:03:10 and simplify things for you if you don't
0:03:13 have a teacher then you're gonna have to
0:03:14 let yourself and that's not necessarily
0:03:16 a disadvantage in 2020 main person I
0:03:19 have a student in New York City one of
0:03:21 my students we've been doing a lecture
0:03:23 together once it's one maybe three four
0:03:25 years ago and he said that ignorance and
0:03:28 2017 or 2017 is a choice it's a choice
0:03:32 it's not like back in the day in which
0:03:34 only the aristocrats had access to
0:03:37 knowledge only people of high birth had
0:03:39 access to certain types of knowledge
0:03:40 people of certain races could read and
0:03:43 had access to libraries only only people
0:03:46 that had access money could travel and
0:03:48 2020 every single of the laws a canary
0:03:53 has access to not some knowledge but a
0:03:56 wealth of knowledge a wealth of
0:03:58 knowledge and all of these things are in
0:04:00 light of the different revolutions of
0:04:02 the world the Industrial Revolution the
0:04:06 concept of empires falling colonies
0:04:09 people went in their independence
0:04:12 globalization et Cie so all of these
0:04:14 things play a huge role a huge role on
0:04:18 access availability towards knowledge a
0:04:21 man I would alter him alongside him as
0:04:24 you know in his serie
0:04:25 the AMIA the governor of Busra after
0:04:29 they had a lot of fighting a lot of
0:04:31 problems different revolts and
0:04:33 rebellions revolutions big fitna that
0:04:35 was known and bustle and a time I would
0:04:37 old so the city or much of the city was
0:04:40 burnt burnt to a crisp
0:04:42 many things were destroyed many people
0:04:44 were killed
0:04:45 lives were wasted people were violated
0:04:47 and the governor of Western he wanted to
0:04:49 rebuild Busra
0:04:51 he wanted to you know make it a
0:04:53 sprawling metropolis once more you want
0:04:55 to rebuild it and from the plans or from
0:04:59 his his tactics was to make Basara once
0:05:01 more a heartland of knowledge and a
0:05:05 center of knowledge a stronghold of the
0:05:07 in look at the wisdom of this leader
0:05:09 this political leader now hikmah and he
0:05:12 knew that he met with the old regime
0:05:13 Allah Allah was the best or at least one
0:05:16 of the best in the business at the time
0:05:18 one of the most learning people of
0:05:20 knowledge of my death
0:05:21 so a man he made a man without an offer
0:05:24 it offered him obviously a place to stay
0:05:27 a place to live a way of surviving you
0:05:30 know etc but he put stipulations upon I
0:05:32 would old and one of the stipulations
0:05:34 that he placed upon him was he says that
0:05:37 you'll come to the Royal Palace and
0:05:40 you'll hold classes for hadeeth for me
0:05:42 and my sons me and my sons the princes
0:05:46 or you know the Emir's under me you give
0:05:48 us personal classes I'd obviously be a
0:05:51 mere Basra he can't say with this
0:05:53 servant this peasant this person was a
0:05:56 slave this person of this ancestry I
0:05:57 can't sit with Denis it's an
0:05:59 embarrassment so humiliation and he made
0:06:02 other conditions and stipulations him
0:06:04 every thought he agreed to them except
0:06:07 for that condition and he said that
0:06:09 knowledge cannot be for one class
0:06:11 knowledge cannot be for an aristocrat
0:06:14 without the peasantry knowledge is not
0:06:16 when someone of a bloodline all the DNA
0:06:18 of a genealogy so the moral the story
0:06:20 was is that that Amir he was following
0:06:23 through in the tradition is that there's
0:06:25 knowledge only for certain people for
0:06:27 certain classes but in 2020 within a
0:06:30 number of milliseconds not a second
0:06:32 seconds milliseconds you press one
0:06:34 button and you have a wealth um in in
0:06:37 front of you a wealth of it
0:06:39 all right and obviously that's a
0:06:40 blessing and that's also a curse if we
0:06:42 care for as well so with that being said
0:06:44 we have to understand that knowledge is
0:06:46 it ignorance is a choice and our times
0:06:48 it is a choice
0:06:49 so those brothers who want to study
0:06:52 sisters who want to study they want to
0:06:54 benefit I think often times you talk
0:06:56 about it too much
0:06:57 we dramatize it too much we romanticize
0:06:59 it too much instead of just doing it
0:07:01 miss me laughs and just because you
0:07:03 start off on the wrong foot or you don't
0:07:05 have everything proper in the beginning
0:07:07 doesn't mean that you can't change
0:07:08 we know the famous narration of a
0:07:10 companion some of them they said Jana
0:07:13 CollabNet in my one a7f hee hee Nia
0:07:15 we had no specific intention when we
0:07:18 started seeking in two models they're
0:07:20 gonna knee it's about then afterwards
0:07:22 the law gave us the proper intention
0:07:24 that be right on he said concerning this
0:07:26 FM he said Leanna no fool says Zakia
0:07:30 Temujin your souls are never pleased
0:07:34 with ignorance pure souls good people
0:07:37 they're never comfortable just being
0:07:39 English so the concept is is that they
0:07:42 started awfully to have the proper
0:07:43 intention and then later came so what
0:07:46 that being said a teacher a program a
0:07:49 curriculum we always said I need to
0:07:51 start with the philosophy has to come
0:07:53 first and we're very yawning strong
0:07:55 proponents for called the pop culture
0:07:58 and I don't mean my pop culture actors
0:08:01 and singers and dancers and musicians
0:08:02 PLP meaning purity of philosophy purity
0:08:07 of philosophy so our mindsets have to be
0:08:10 correct before we even think about
0:08:12 taking a step and people I don't think
0:08:15 their philosophy is pure when it comes
0:08:17 to seeking in people think I have to
0:08:19 seek knowledge in this country or with
0:08:21 this person or just like this and and I
0:08:24 have to say this and knowledge is up
0:08:27 here first and foremost and once you get
0:08:29 it up there and your philosophy is pure
0:08:31 everything physical becomes easier
0:08:34 so therefore the curriculum or your
0:08:37 teacher may show a lot achieving
0:08:38 something simple it should be something
0:08:40 clear and should be something easy and
0:08:43 digestible something that you can take
0:08:45 small bites sometimes you can walk
0:08:47 slowly and gradually build and wind up
0:08:50 your momentum insha'Allah Allah
0:08:52 so baby steps are important longevity is
0:08:56 important ease and simplicity and it
0:08:59 goes back to the purity of philosophy
0:09:00 many people they think we have a book
0:09:02 method and forty hundreds no week we
0:09:05 have a shot which is fifty pages and the
0:09:07 author isn't that known or isn't that
0:09:09 famous isn't that repeated and then we
0:09:12 have a 500 page explanation of a great
0:09:14 great famous scholar the beginning
0:09:16 student think so after the following
0:09:18 page book that he can't handle he can't
0:09:21 understand it's way too much it's way
0:09:23 above and beyond him but because his
0:09:25 philosophy isn't pure he ignores the
0:09:27 fifty page explanation and eventually he
0:09:29 quits they get burnt out
0:09:31 [ __ ] well then use the dictionary every
0:09:34 two seconds every word any tips in and
0:09:36 jumps onto another book in another class
0:09:38 and those are the brothers and the
0:09:40 sisters I'm pushing on we see five years
0:09:41 later James later not studying anymore
0:09:44 dropping out of school I'm back home
0:09:46 what happened I thought you were Medina
0:09:47 oh well you know you know because they
0:09:50 didn't take the proper steps and
0:09:52 progressiveness to double-check the
0:09:54 problem alright so your teacher or
0:09:57 yourself whatever program you use Medina
0:10:00 Egypt Yemen South Africa every program
0:10:03 you use it should be simple and easy and
0:10:05 it should be a step to build up your
0:10:08 momentum and then you start taking jumps
0:10:11 and leaps later on been denied Salah
0:10:14 whatever that program may be as far as
0:10:17 what to study first then before you even
0:10:20 get into Quran and before you begin into
0:10:22 the IB language once more I would say is
0:10:25 you should dig further into the culture
0:10:28 of telamon
0:10:29 dig further into the culture read the
0:10:32 books listen to the lectures sit in the
0:10:33 classes about how to be used in the
0:10:35 knowledge and what is it stood an
0:10:37 argument isn't still no knowledge
0:10:38 because those wooden things allow you to
0:10:40 have longevity jumping in and out of the
0:10:42 class Arabic oughta be a penny a day
0:10:44 kundina
0:10:45 you burn out but you have to become
0:10:48 ingrate and engrossed with the poem and
0:10:51 then I am a student of knowledge
0:10:53 I love knowledge and I want to seek it
0:10:55 what I'm in jail what a minute UK was
0:10:58 I'm in the scorching sands of Arabia or
0:11:00 more taenia wherever you are the mindset
0:11:03 everything begins and ends with mine so
0:11:05 start off with the
0:11:06 Apollo and I hummed Allah in Arabic
0:11:09 there countless books in English there
0:11:11 challenged books lectures and you teach
0:11:14 it he's a good teacher the first thing
0:11:16 he's gonna try to do is to get you to to
0:11:18 be devoted to this art this culture of
0:11:21 seeking knowledge and being a student
0:11:23 knowledge for real and not a fraudulent
0:11:26 Lewallen you know when you were saying
0:11:29 circle nothing for that when you were
0:11:30 saying about with the wood story
0:11:32 rahimullah I was thinking about the ayat
0:11:36 of the Quran no Holly Salam when I saw
0:11:39 the Shara and a lot of hard when las
0:11:41 plantas describes his story and that
0:11:44 people says like at whatever I cut out
0:11:47 of the road and hello
0:11:48 you know leave the marina lowly closet
0:11:55 and this idea is even repeated for I
0:11:58 remember as well in Suez and on what
0:12:00 Lanka says the same thing you know yeah
0:12:11 the knowledge is actually for all us is
0:12:15 an old people the beautiful oneness is
0:12:19 throughout the Quranic this goes from
0:12:20 north all the way to solomon s it's a
0:12:23 beautiful thing about our religion and
0:12:25 I'm not kind of outlining that story
0:12:27 because it was actually a very profound
0:12:28 story I don't think many people would
0:12:30 have come across and and something else
0:12:34 I wanted to mention as well based on the
0:12:36 lost woman that he made was like the end
0:12:39 up of Taliban would the mannerisms the
0:12:42 etiquettes and the spirituality it has
0:12:43 to come with it I won her that changed
0:12:46 my life and reading it is badeah today
0:12:49 yeah in the beginning in the first
0:12:53 couple of chapters he demarcated and
0:12:55 actually translated to English it's
0:12:57 called the beginning of guidance and he
0:12:59 says that if you're if you're if you're
0:13:01 doing tolerable island if you're trying
0:13:03 to learn in order to get you to compete
0:13:05 with your peers you know then you're
0:13:09 basically a game is up
0:13:11 yeah and so it's what kind of it like
0:13:15 this is a beautiful thing because number
0:13:17 one you're saying is open the atom is
0:13:19 open
0:13:20 but number two also you have to have the
0:13:22 right kind of psycho-spiritual state
0:13:24 before coming to Donna blood on a really
0:13:29 practical level you mentioned a couple
0:13:31 of books at the end it's someone nice
0:13:33 okay he agrees with that and and he'll
0:13:38 or she once an hour bark upon just a
0:13:41 very basic this person is just let's say
0:13:43 for example wasn't practicing it slam
0:13:45 now assigned to practice Islam an
0:13:46 extremely basic program what would what
0:13:50 would they start with an extremely basic
0:13:53 program hmm by um well first and
0:13:57 foremost an extremely and have a very
0:14:00 important point you mention about the
0:14:01 spirituality in a psycho spiritual realm
0:14:05 cause and of course the words that came
0:14:10 after was a tease uh yeah illumined
0:14:12 Dean's the motifs are several different
0:14:15 versions of that more that's to clean in
0:14:18 hazzard costs again and in the beginning
0:14:20 of all of those books there is kita will
0:14:22 in and he talks about seeking knowledge
0:14:25 for tinnitus your peers competing and
0:14:28 that's that's very very very stark in
0:14:31 our society and that's because it is
0:14:33 actually translated into English as well
0:14:35 I think then the manipulation it's quite
0:14:37 new it's not the epidermis is cousin or
0:14:40 something yeah and there's several then
0:14:44 you have he also mention about how
0:14:46 people they'll focus on the technical
0:14:49 knowledge and ignore the spirituality
0:14:52 behind it and they don't seek the
0:14:54 knowledge of the soul and that's very
0:14:55 stocker as well people they seek
0:14:57 knowledge just for the technicalities
0:14:59 for and for landfill and friend but they
0:15:01 ignore their soul and that's an issue at
0:15:04 the end of the day a very simple basic
0:15:06 easy program for person ten key points
0:15:10 or ten ten key guidelines to seeking
0:15:12 knowledge excellent book in Arabic in
0:15:15 English
0:15:16 Enrique is Elijah Lata scene and Edney
0:15:19 by Abdullah so thick
0:15:21 that's an Arabic and in English as well
0:15:23 as a very concise lean book that gives
0:15:27 you ten main successes or pieces of
0:15:29 success to seek knowledge that's very
0:15:31 personal in other book
0:15:33 are afterwards a Muslim be denied tada
0:15:37 he should learn the basics of the
0:15:38 recitation of the Quran in six of how to
0:15:42 decide the Quran properly not to be
0:15:44 attached mcmaster but the basic simple
0:15:47 proper recitation of the five prayers
0:15:50 all right
0:15:51 also be denied on I would advise on that
0:15:54 Muslim to learn the things that he needs
0:15:57 to answer integrate the the three
0:16:00 questions that every Muslims want to
0:16:03 face and of course from the best of
0:16:05 those books is auto surah flat ribbon
0:16:07 I'm going to I have right now on tada
0:16:09 they even have rain Matata obviously he
0:16:11 came later one and they're scholars who
0:16:13 rolled vines vines and slam way before
0:16:15 his time with his book is simplified
0:16:17 it's easy its laid out and is free from
0:16:23 just yawning promises they saw a
0:16:25 problem-free very important book for any
0:16:28 basic Muslim let alone a student of
0:16:30 knowledge it's a very small talk as well
0:16:32 like pages or even smaller versions then
0:16:35 that which is in English as well even
0:16:38 smaller versions game another very
0:16:40 important book as I'll add you back I
0:16:42 looked a hot team at to modify a lot
0:16:45 could be Muslim or Muslim and that's in
0:16:46 English as well and then there's certain
0:16:49 things that I don't know I love it but
0:16:53 it is it is an English for sure yeah
0:16:55 it's been years agos the years since
0:16:57 I've seen it but these are basic books
0:16:59 to let your fund in terms of Islam and
0:17:01 the obligation of knowledge like I said
0:17:04 purity of the philosophy I know ya Jeeva
0:17:06 Dana and I'll do more - that's golden
0:17:09 that's golden and those values that you
0:17:12 learned in the beginning in that book
0:17:13 they stick with you for the rest of your
0:17:14 life a little couple encoding what Amin
0:17:17 how much suffering do we face on a daily
0:17:20 basis and ignoring that principle
0:17:23 speak after you know do after you know
0:17:26 how many of us talk about ignorance we
0:17:28 think we feel we follow someone and then
0:17:31 we have problems we do harm to ourselves
0:17:32 and to others
0:17:33 all right of course obviously the basics
0:17:36 of the Arabic language is shallow but
0:17:37 before that s non-muslim the fortress of
0:17:41 the Muslims very important learn the
0:17:43 earth care of the Prophet sallallaahu
0:17:44 them only have care of the Quran and
0:17:46 that goes back to
0:17:47 you said about the spirituality of
0:17:49 seeking knowledge psycho-spiritual very
0:17:52 important connect yourself to a law all
0:17:54 the time and if a law is not protecting
0:17:57 us again knowledge you came to
0:17:58 successful and most importantly as you
0:18:01 have to develop your memory you have to
0:18:04 learn and discover the magic of revision
0:18:06 you have to discover the magic of
0:18:10 revision and many of the pious
0:18:11 predecessors they will say with accurate
0:18:14 only in I had to move the lifeblood of
0:18:17 knowledge is revision so how do you know
0:18:20 the dicket before you go to sleep so
0:18:21 well how do you lick them for you drink
0:18:24 after you drink yeah you keep doing it
0:18:30 so you have to train yourself that there
0:18:33 is no mountain that's high enough to to
0:18:35 to taught a climb if you just keep
0:18:37 practicing it with rechlicz were hidden
0:18:39 hiya - ok revising knowledge is the
0:18:43 lifeblood of the vertebra of him and you
0:18:46 learn this rule and become well lucky so
0:18:50 - baqara you trying to memorize it was
0:18:52 from a stranger I act this one is an
0:18:55 entire page it's intimidating but when
0:18:58 you keep reviewing it and reciting it in
0:19:00 a prayer and teaching to others you
0:19:02 learn it like that so you get that total
0:19:04 B and M I said from the FK let alone the
0:19:07 spiritual protection and it connected to
0:19:09 a lost final Dada all right last but not
0:19:11 least is to learn the basics of the
0:19:13 Arabic language not the grammar but the
0:19:16 vocabulary and it takes small bits and
0:19:18 pieces of grammar to form basic
0:19:20 sentences for conversational purposes
0:19:23 and many people they start off with a
0:19:25 joke mia they start off with this new
0:19:27 book and they go from a Tibetan ship
0:19:30 away and that's a human and that is
0:19:33 often ends up being burnt up and finding
0:19:36 the Abbott language to be too confusing
0:19:38 and too difficult you got to learn how
0:19:40 to talk you gotta learn how to listen
0:19:42 you gotta learn how to conversate
0:19:44 okay um hey I don't tell you no more
0:19:48 stories with regards to that nothing
0:19:50 that's clear and charlotta there's a
0:19:52 book that I for beginners I saw which is
0:19:54 quite nice and most of you've come
0:19:55 across this quote al-kitab' let's se yes
0:19:58 yes yes for sure
0:19:59 mm-hmm
0:20:01 we get for the cameras several several
0:20:04 with the simplest and easiest and even
0:20:06 if it's a bigger book just take the
0:20:07 smaller portions of it mmm mm-hmm
0:20:10 okay now obviously you studied hadith at
0:20:13 university so that's your kind of area
0:20:14 correct hamdulillah I was fortunate
0:20:18 fortunate enough to go to the Prophet
0:20:21 City for over a decade or about a decade
0:20:23 roughly um and learn all of these same
0:20:26 Sciences most of them a basic level from
0:20:29 them on hamdulillah
0:20:29 and that was my major yes in a college
0:20:33 find some idea how many now so one of
0:20:36 the main talking points in terms of
0:20:38 Islam what are the things that we would
0:20:40 consider a USP that is very unique to
0:20:44 Islam
0:20:45 comparison to other religions even a
0:20:47 course other histories ancient histories
0:20:49 is the way that our tradition has
0:20:51 actually been preserved so given in a
0:20:54 nutshell if you like a summarized
0:20:56 version wait
0:20:57 tell us how has paddy's been preserved
0:21:00 and what is the clear clear well like
0:21:07 you mentioned not just for religion and
0:21:11 faith but also for history it's not
0:21:14 about that there are some experts in
0:21:16 specialists they've done a lot of
0:21:19 research with regards to the history of
0:21:22 narration and the history of the chain
0:21:25 of narration obviously a hadith composed
0:21:28 or is composed of a Senate and I met him
0:21:30 there is the chain of reporters and the
0:21:34 actual report so some specialists they
0:21:37 have tried to go to other religions
0:21:40 other faiths and not just Islam
0:21:42 Christianity and Judaism also Hinduism
0:21:46 the mainstream religions some call the
0:21:51 Abrahamic faiths things like this ok
0:21:53 they've done research and they've looked
0:21:56 to the extent of the usage of the chain
0:21:59 of narration and those other religions
0:22:01 and those other books and there are
0:22:03 there are usages of reports that but
0:22:08 there's never been a time a place people
0:22:10 or religion in which the chain of
0:22:13 narration played such a
0:22:15 pivotal role like the vertebrae in the
0:22:19 body of that religion like Islam there's
0:22:22 never been a religion or way or even a
0:22:25 historical event because the history of
0:22:27 the Arabs the language of the ABS the
0:22:29 culture of the Arabs is extremely and
0:22:32 immensely indebted to Islam Islam
0:22:35 improved their history the preservation
0:22:37 of it the report of their language their
0:22:39 letters their speech
0:22:41 everything was polished by slap there's
0:22:44 never been a time or place in a religion
0:22:46 in which preservation and precaution and
0:22:49 precision and such a mighty punishment
0:22:53 has been placed on lying and fabricating
0:22:55 and being inaccurate minutes left
0:22:57 there's no button there's no doubt about
0:22:58 that one of the non-muslim Orientalists
0:23:01 who studied Islam who attacked Islam
0:23:04 Yemen Lee who was a student of one of
0:23:07 the worst opponents of Islam was Joseph
0:23:10 Scott in German Orientalists and he made
0:23:13 the famous statement fairly effed up in
0:23:15 a Muslim onna behead me I need him he
0:23:18 said if the Muslims could take pride in
0:23:19 anything it would be the science of my
0:23:23 not poetry the love of horses and this
0:23:27 and that he said genealogy I think if
0:23:28 they pride in anything it will be inland
0:23:31 Aziz and he was a open staunch opponent
0:23:34 to Islam to the hadith but he
0:23:35 acknowledged that and we all know the
0:23:37 Arabs have a famous statement in that
0:23:40 fog La Masia he that me and I death
0:23:42 okay true props true regard comes from
0:23:47 one's opponent that's true recognition
0:23:50 the opponent doesn't like you he doesn't
0:23:52 love you but he respects you and he
0:23:54 takes off his hat he bowels through and
0:23:56 says I acknowledge you and your prowess
0:23:58 we were not friends we're at odds with
0:24:01 each other but I definitely respect and
0:24:04 acknowledge you as a person as a brave
0:24:08 fearless man all right so therefore in
0:24:11 were hadith is something which is very
0:24:13 special it's very weak and this is found
0:24:17 in the Quran and Canaan which Allah
0:24:18 surgeon tells us in their new nazar
0:24:20 Nadira whenever hula heart you doona
0:24:23 Allah so he says that indeed we have
0:24:27 sent down the vehicle and
0:24:29 we shall preserve it and the vicar
0:24:32 initially means the forend
0:24:34 it means the Quran Allah says we have
0:24:37 sent down a friend and we will preserve
0:24:38 the Quran now there's one or two things
0:24:41 that we can say now number one is does
0:24:43 this include the Sunnah as well as if
0:24:46 the verse says indeed we have sent down
0:24:48 the Quran and Sunnah and will preserve
0:24:50 them both or does it just mean that the
0:24:53 Quran is missing down and the Quran will
0:24:56 be preserved but the interpretation of
0:24:58 the Quran the understanding of the Quran
0:25:00 the big stories of the crane how can we
0:25:04 even have any sense of the Quran without
0:25:06 the hadith and that which is a necessity
0:25:08 of the brain to be understood practiced
0:25:10 implemented reflected upon also must be
0:25:14 what preserved as well it makes no sense
0:25:17 for a person to have very expensive
0:25:19 acrostic Springwater
0:25:20 and he carries it in his hands he says
0:25:23 we want to take it from the spring I'm
0:25:24 gonna walk on my trail or my bike I'm
0:25:27 gonna hold it in one hand I'm gonna go
0:25:29 in my house and I'm gonna take the
0:25:30 spring water in my hands and in my jaws
0:25:32 on up like this only a fool will do that
0:25:35 the more expensive the water the more
0:25:37 pure and pristine of water the vessel
0:25:39 the glass the plastic the box whatever
0:25:42 you preserve it in has to be just as
0:25:44 what just as good rather even more
0:25:46 costly and that's because the thing on
0:25:49 the inside has to be preserved and kept
0:25:51 safe and if you don't have the outside
0:25:53 is preserved and kept safe it's a waste
0:25:55 of time
0:25:56 so Alonso - no doubt about that he has
0:25:59 sent down the Quran and he has inspired
0:26:01 the prophet Sulaiman Solomon given him
0:26:03 revelation as well and the
0:26:05 interpretation of the Quran
0:26:06 understanding the application and like I
0:26:09 said very important word is the sense of
0:26:12 the fore-end the quranic stories so many
0:26:15 Allah says Carbonaro - for what - cement
0:26:19 indeed we see that your face is turning
0:26:21 about looking into the skies looking to
0:26:23 the heavens but in the one hand
0:26:25 applicable that sent on by will give you
0:26:27 a direction of prayer that you'll be
0:26:28 pleased with what is the law of talking
0:26:30 about cause a lot talking - who's
0:26:34 turning their face in the sky anyone
0:26:36 everyone who's looking into that means
0:26:38 what is the direction of prayer work
0:26:40 what was the direction of prayer
0:26:42 manuela home I'm cricket Azima let's
0:26:44 again waria what changed them from the
0:26:47 qibla in which they were facing who was
0:26:49 praying when these questions can't be
0:26:52 answered Allah so Johnny tells us about
0:26:54 the Prophet with a serenity you that
0:26:56 when the proper made a secret or some of
0:26:57 his wives whose the Prophet yeah cool
0:27:00 tray Greece Ilyas and then Kiffin well
0:27:05 and maybe you was who's the prophet and
0:27:08 who audience wives as the man allowed to
0:27:12 have more than wife in Islam Allah said
0:27:14 some of his life worst wife what was the
0:27:16 secret how can you make sense of certain
0:27:19 time in chapter 33 makes sense out of it
0:27:22 verse after verse story after story that
0:27:24 you cannot understand the beginning the
0:27:26 end or the middle without deep thoughts
0:27:28 on them so many people they talk about
0:27:30 the preservation and so now we have to
0:27:32 look at the preservation of Quran and
0:27:34 the Quran is the starting point and it's
0:27:37 also the last frontier for the reality
0:27:40 that the Sunnah of the person was
0:27:41 preserved and those who reject the
0:27:44 hadees' and say that they do not exist
0:27:45 they're made up in their last they are
0:27:48 non-muslims and he has rejected the
0:27:50 Quran they have rejected the friend and
0:27:53 Allah you could be tells us for Jenny
0:27:55 don't be she had in Kabir on use the
0:27:58 Quran and fight them with it strongly
0:28:01 okay vigorously so we don't have to get
0:28:04 into this historical report
0:28:06 I had party that she's deal with you are
0:28:10 could end with Jeff Hardy's rejecter
0:28:12 please make sense of the Quran makes
0:28:15 sense if you can make sense but I accept
0:28:18 your argument that I need to all lies
0:28:19 they all made up two hundred fifty years
0:28:22 after the Prophet no problem but make
0:28:24 sense I don't chapter 33 make sense out
0:28:26 of this soda make sense out of this
0:28:27 verse when did the process of waters the
0:28:29 law says into the home for the gates
0:28:31 who's he talking to
0:28:32 what is he talking about who's 8 and
0:28:34 let's close on a problematic issue that
0:28:36 they have no answer for except through
0:28:40 the require this turned out the process
0:28:42 in brief secondly is the prophets of I
0:28:45 saw him sooner
0:28:46 just like the Quran we don't believe
0:28:49 that is based off of just human effort
0:28:52 but there are things which are
0:28:54 miraculous and the things you try
0:28:56 above and beyond the ability of the
0:28:58 human to do and then they are miraculous
0:29:00 miraculous and if we lose sight of that
0:29:03 and if everything is just mundane and
0:29:06 everything is just academic and
0:29:08 everything is tangible there lies no
0:29:10 doubt we will lose our faith and we lose
0:29:12 our faith the game is over nothing else
0:29:16 to do afterwards so we can't lose again
0:29:18 scope of that but of course there are
0:29:20 tangible reasons behind this one to be
0:29:22 preserved in the time of the prophets
0:29:25 but before we go that far I don't to
0:29:29 take too much time is very important we
0:29:31 have to understand the power of
0:29:33 prejudice and the power of racism and
0:29:36 the power of a person feeling inferior
0:29:39 and a person feeling superior to another
0:29:42 race we have to understand that race
0:29:44 color class a nation these things are
0:29:49 involved in every single aspect of life
0:29:53 every sphere of life including studies
0:29:56 in academia and there's not a time in
0:29:59 which race and color and religion is
0:30:01 separated from these other aspects of
0:30:03 life listen to these words carefully and
0:30:05 from that is academic studies of a slant
0:30:09 for a person to come from another
0:30:12 country and to travel thousands of
0:30:15 thousand miles another part of the world
0:30:17 another climate and it take eight
0:30:20 hundred nine hundred a thousand years of
0:30:23 scholastics of studies of in depth
0:30:27 futuristic state-of-the-art detailed
0:30:29 studies and to ignore them neglect them
0:30:32 find part of them throng them that is
0:30:35 based off of racial superiority or
0:30:37 inferiority and that is the concept of
0:30:40 Orientalism that the Muslims for over a
0:30:43 thousand years they had her own gran
0:30:46 lumen hadith Osuna thick all of these
0:30:49 different Sciences and I came from
0:30:51 Hungary war was my country a thousand
0:30:54 years ago eight hundred years ago what
0:30:58 science and knowledge of astronomy did
0:31:00 we have of Hygiene of this and that the
0:31:04 embryo so many things they were lost
0:31:06 stuck in darkness and the Muslims has
0:31:09 sprawling city
0:31:10 of libraries baton hikmah do you know
0:31:12 how many volumes of books were burnt one
0:31:14 the seeds of book that took place
0:31:17 historians say that me the they say that
0:31:21 the sea became black from ink millions
0:31:24 and millions of books were lost another
0:31:26 Scotland a debate there and they said
0:31:28 that the Mongol invaders did not burn
0:31:30 big to Hitler
0:31:31 that's the discussion the point is is
0:31:33 that that's only one library in one city
0:31:35 a book that the Muslims world thousands
0:31:38 of lines of books not just one its name
0:31:39 in sizes as well and for someone to come
0:31:41 along and you say that these Sciences
0:31:43 are all flawed there are lies they're
0:31:46 all based on political gains
0:31:48 sectarianism she asked Sunna it happened
0:31:51 that he's doing that because of
0:31:52 something and it's not just pure
0:31:54 scholastic or academic research but it's
0:31:56 because your way is flawed and the
0:31:59 reason why is flawed is because you're
0:32:00 Arabs your Berbers your Kurds I'm
0:32:04 European I'm Hungarian I'm German our
0:32:07 way is automatically superior to your
0:32:09 way and it's very sad and unfortunate
0:32:11 that many Muslims have fallen victims of
0:32:13 this and they don't even realize it they
0:32:15 don't even realize him and from the
0:32:17 manifestations of this is the feeling
0:32:19 that if something isn't written down if
0:32:21 something isn't documented the way we
0:32:23 wanted to be written down and documented
0:32:24 then it's automatically a lying false
0:32:26 and this is the main premise of those
0:32:29 who say that the Hadees were not
0:32:31 preserved because they weren't written
0:32:33 down in a time of the project rather 200
0:32:36 even though even though a lot a big part
0:32:38 of Western tradition all the way back
0:32:41 you know the Iliad Homer's Iliad is on
0:32:48 for sure
0:32:49 yes likewise even the Torah is the Jews
0:32:53 claim although they don't have a chain
0:32:55 of narration which I'm sure you're going
0:32:56 to talk about what what that entails but
0:32:59 they claim this oral so the the bedrock
0:33:02 of Western society which was
0:33:04 judeo-christian values was based on
0:33:07 documents or books that claim to have
0:33:10 been orally transmitted things like
0:33:13 Homer and the Old Testament itself
0:33:17 trying to say that this is this is very
0:33:20 much the new Orientalist critique
0:33:23 well these are Chinese whispers you're
0:33:25 talking about the Senate these are
0:33:26 actually where Chinese whispers it's not
0:33:29 a meticulous preservation mechanism and
0:33:33 a lot of it wasn't compiled until the
0:33:37 third century and these are the kinds of
0:33:39 things that may be orientalists I think
0:33:41 just is actually one of them who sent
0:33:45 this would say they would say things
0:33:47 like so what makes your method actually
0:33:51 any better than these other methods or
0:33:55 wise special why's it so unique sure for
0:33:59 sure so that's a very excellent point
0:34:02 and ask the to copay of course people
0:34:05 attack someone on something today a
0:34:06 guilty themselves okay and of course
0:34:10 somebody will say well we aren't
0:34:12 Orientalist Orientalism has faded out
0:34:14 the colonial age is going well the Arabs
0:34:18 they say in the Mukunda comen only could
0:34:21 leave home and wedded and someone is
0:34:23 going to inherit and these people in
0:34:26 these modern academic universities they
0:34:29 have inherited and they don't even
0:34:30 realize so at the end of the keep things
0:34:33 brief because that's a very long
0:34:34 discussion but I did want to shed light
0:34:36 on that is the foundation of that and
0:34:39 just because something written doesn't
0:34:41 mean that it's authentic
0:34:41 and just because something is orally
0:34:43 passed down it doesn't mean it's alive
0:34:45 let alone the fact that there were
0:34:47 countless had it's written in the time
0:34:48 of the Prophet I mean I think a great
0:34:51 example of that as well just think of my
0:34:54 head probably one of the best examples
0:34:56 of that is language like sure which in
0:34:58 the beginning early civilization it was
0:35:00 the way that language was transmitted
0:35:05 orally or over mathematics itself is a
0:35:08 language
0:35:09 I mean people when they learn maths they
0:35:11 didn't necessarily depend on the books
0:35:15 teaching each other from how they were
0:35:17 at all the things that basically will
0:35:20 even body land the way we are taught and
0:35:22 the way we speak and all these things a
0:35:24 lot of it is most of the things you
0:35:27 could argue this transmitted
0:35:29 generational mass transmissions and
0:35:34 some karate language evolves from that
0:35:38 perspective and that is the requirement
0:35:41 here when you have like you know you're
0:35:43 gonna inch a lot talk about this
0:35:45 principles and case which stop you know
0:35:48 certain things from being changed right
0:35:51 so in terms of nada hadith what are the
0:35:53 principles that are in place that would
0:35:56 kind of ward off this Chinese whispers
0:35:58 allegation how do we set someone says
0:36:00 well someone says this and three or four
0:36:02 centuries later it's communicated as
0:36:04 this how do we know that it's not being
0:36:06 changed
0:36:07 clear for sure well I think first and
0:36:10 foremost is that we have to know what
0:36:11 we're speaking with everyone is uh we
0:36:14 have to we have to make a distinction of
0:36:16 who we're talking to we're talking to a
0:36:18 Muslim scientist we tell them to a
0:36:20 non-muslim are we talking to a man a
0:36:22 person of faith and religion whether the
0:36:24 Buddhist Hindu Christian or someone
0:36:27 who's an atheist or agnostic someone who
0:36:29 just bases off of the nether the
0:36:31 material mundane things and if we don't
0:36:34 know who we're speaking with then of
0:36:35 course we're not gonna go too far so who
0:36:37 are we talking to if a person accepts
0:36:39 the Quran and they are Muslim they have
0:36:41 doubt they are sincerely concerned about
0:36:45 the Hadees in the Sun etc it is very
0:36:48 simple answer and first and foremost we
0:36:50 say to them do you know everything about
0:36:51 the Koran do you know everything about
0:36:54 the crane do you know everything what
0:36:56 sort of came down first was sort of that
0:36:58 came down last do you know the the way
0:37:00 of the Quran being transmitted of course
0:37:03 the average Muslim the average student
0:37:04 Najma said of course I don't
0:37:06 so what makes you so demanding and what
0:37:11 makes you so imposing that you have to
0:37:14 know every meticulous detail about the
0:37:16 hadith tradition there's a serious
0:37:18 question now and it's not running from
0:37:20 the answer but it's a serious question
0:37:21 now if you can't answer that then
0:37:24 obviously your questions about Haditha
0:37:28 aren't yeah where you going we can sit
0:37:31 down and talk about the Quran you don't
0:37:33 know everything about the brand and much
0:37:34 of the Quran and your faith in it is
0:37:35 based off of blind faith so many people
0:37:39 they are very ignorant of the sciences
0:37:40 of the Quran which are sciences but they
0:37:43 want to be masters of science are these
0:37:45 Muslim they want to be masters of the
0:37:47 hadith
0:37:47 water and it's mostly and that
0:37:49 absolutely makes no sense they make some
0:37:51 sense and one of the most important
0:37:53 principles of teaching someone and
0:37:54 uplifting and raising from them doubts
0:37:57 is to show them their ignorance you have
0:38:00 to be shown their ignorance and then
0:38:02 it's not embarrassing someone or playing
0:38:04 someone but it's to show you that you
0:38:06 need to humble yourself and most people
0:38:08 who talk about our needs mean for us
0:38:10 they're blindly finding someone and
0:38:12 you're very haughty and arrogant and in
0:38:14 telling this is not true for over 300
0:38:16 years who said that where are you
0:38:17 getting this from for over 20 years I
0:38:19 just wanted written down that's not true
0:38:21 that's a lie
0:38:21 so I think we have to show the people
0:38:23 their ignorance and take it back to
0:38:25 their faith of the Quran how does the
0:38:27 Lord tell us to go back to something
0:38:28 which is totally false there's not one
0:38:30 single person of where ends and which
0:38:32 Allah tells us to obey him and only him
0:38:35 not one verse in the Quran which Allah
0:38:39 says well to Allah that's it
0:38:40 now once every single time the law tells
0:38:43 us to obey Him immediately afterwards it
0:38:46 is and the messenger and His Messenger
0:38:49 rather there's some persons in the brain
0:38:51 which along so behind what commands us
0:38:54 to obey only the Prophet only the
0:38:56 messenger and not Allah that's deep and
0:38:59 it's profound
0:39:00 how could Allah tell us to obey someone
0:39:02 whose words are lost and made up and
0:39:05 everything is fallacy everything is you
0:39:08 know just a tradition so make sense out
0:39:11 of the brain tell me about the Quran all
0:39:14 the signs of Graham and then that's all
0:39:16 hopefully then I'll tell you about the
0:39:18 Hadees in the Sunda and until you can do
0:39:20 that you're being hypocritical and
0:39:21 you're not sincere as far as if it's a
0:39:23 non-muslim then it goes back to what I
0:39:25 previously said what are your standards
0:39:27 of academia or scholastic criticism are
0:39:32 you supposing something and as most of
0:39:36 the criticism levied against the high
0:39:38 needs people Yanni yes we don't they're
0:39:40 making fun of the yet we don't think
0:39:43 it's like this in most cases it's most
0:39:46 likely it's most likely it's most likely
0:39:48 secondly is this actually look at the
0:39:50 criticism so to make an example of this
0:39:52 now so people they say that the Hadees
0:39:56 were used for political gain
0:39:59 we had mahalia Johan who and we had Adi
0:40:02 for the other one
0:40:03 so therefore the easiest way of
0:40:05 legitimizing someone's Authority
0:40:07 someone's power of state is to the
0:40:11 profit
0:40:12 I am the profits nephew I'm the profits
0:40:15 cousin I'm the promised relative I am
0:40:17 from the province uncle I best attach
0:40:19 exception sensitive so therefore they
0:40:21 say that the hadees' were made up
0:40:22 because of the sectarian Wars between
0:40:24 Benoit maiya and then in our best fight
0:40:26 so therefore that's their premise is
0:40:29 that due to the fact that there's doubt
0:40:30 this reasonable doubt there was a need
0:40:33 for the Shia to legitimize themselves it
0:40:35 was need for the Sunnis to legitimize
0:40:37 themselves in to consolidate power right
0:40:38 no problem
0:40:39 so you're telling me that if someone
0:40:42 abuses of science and uses refines for
0:40:45 their cause of their agenda or their
0:40:47 propaganda then the science
0:40:48 automatically becomes false and made-up
0:40:50 and fabricated are you telling me that
0:40:52 if that's your premise then there goes
0:40:54 science mathematics navigation religion
0:40:59 christianity judaism because all of
0:41:01 these different Sciences in these
0:41:02 different books they were used to
0:41:04 monopolize people people's lives
0:41:06 it was wealth in this territory so
0:41:08 therefore science is false because
0:41:10 someone a scientist came he proved wise
0:41:12 okay to kill this minority and they make
0:41:14 a genocide against these people in the
0:41:15 Holocaust in these people would you
0:41:17 accept that premise of course they were
0:41:19 rather they have faith in those Sciences
0:41:22 even though people for centuries have
0:41:24 misused them and abuse them but the
0:41:27 hadith sorrow matically made-up
0:41:28 fabricated because some supposedly
0:41:31 abused them she I used them against the
0:41:33 Sunni the Sunnis use them gifts this
0:41:35 year
0:41:35 Wow his people use it against at least
0:41:37 people are these people that's false
0:41:38 that's first and foremost second years
0:41:41 the population strata slam he gave us
0:41:44 the guiding principles upon which
0:41:46 Western academia is based on and that is
0:41:49 precision that is precaution that is
0:41:53 integrity
0:41:54 equity okay and that is research and
0:41:57 that is meticulous detail and so many of
0:42:01 the messenger of allah so louis hadith
0:42:02 he himself he made down these values in
0:42:05 which Western academia was nothing to be
0:42:08 mentioned at the time there was no such
0:42:09 thing as Oxford or Cambridge
0:42:11 when they travel from country to country
0:42:13 and they met 30 more hundreds and 40 of
0:42:16 my hundreds for one narration and verify
0:42:19 and analyst goes one of the meticulous
0:42:21 criticism that was laid down what do you
0:42:23 believe it or not no problem over a
0:42:24 thousand years no problem
0:42:26 but for you to just come and say that is
0:42:29 haphazard collages and statements and
0:42:31 actions put together as a problem all
0:42:34 right and that comes from in my personal
0:42:36 opinion in my studies that comes from
0:42:38 the racial superiority complex and the
0:42:41 racial inferiority complex is that our
0:42:43 way superior in all aspects and your
0:42:46 ways are inferior in all aspects and
0:42:48 that itself is a line we learn that from
0:42:50 history many of the sciences of the West
0:42:52 was stolen and borrowed from the east
0:42:54 and and it's not just about jew muslim
0:42:57 christian we talk about masons
0:43:00 everything is based off of the east in
0:43:02 ancient egypt and all those countries so
0:43:05 that was the source of all of their
0:43:06 guidance and all their knowledge on
0:43:07 their science so the point the point
0:43:09 that i'm trying to get to is is there
0:43:10 who are we talking to some went up
0:43:12 science let's talk about science someone
0:43:15 who's supposed to be an academic let's
0:43:16 discuss academia now but not what i
0:43:19 think and i feel and now of accusations
0:43:21 with actual documentation actual proof
0:43:24 and now yeah i'm sorry
0:43:28 kind of summarize what you're saying
0:43:30 what you're saying is that look just
0:43:32 because something can now has the
0:43:33 propensity to be used in a way which is
0:43:38 fitting to their or an agenda it doesn't
0:43:40 mean that the principal's will be the
0:43:42 actual defend on the science itself it
0:43:45 becomes corrupt for example you gave the
0:43:46 example of science he says let's let's
0:43:49 take the example historians are Ingenix
0:43:51 so the fact that you justify racial
0:43:55 programs against certain groups of
0:43:57 people jewish people it doesn't mean now
0:43:59 that science has become a corrupt
0:44:01 Enterprise just because it's been used
0:44:03 in that cutscene it doesn't mean it has
0:44:06 become a corrupt Enterprise yeah
0:44:09 principally right so you're saying the
0:44:11 same thing now that with hadith that it
0:44:14 can be used like anything else it can
0:44:16 potentially be used in a in a wrong way
0:44:18 in a in a corrupting way however it
0:44:21 doesn't mean that the principles of the
0:44:23 guiding principles and
0:44:25 are corrupt it doesn't follow that's
0:44:26 what you think success sure
0:44:28 and rather rather the hypocrisy of the
0:44:32 whole argument and I'm trying to make
0:44:33 I'm trying to place place focus on goals
0:44:37 Iyer okay Ignazio sire he's the founding
0:44:40 father of supposed academic criticism of
0:44:44 Islam in traditional Aslam and obviously
0:44:48 somebody's gonna say well we're not
0:44:49 orientalists Orientalism they fail out
0:44:52 they have extinct but they aren't
0:44:53 extinct and most academic institutions
0:44:57 they glorify this man
0:44:59 the glorifying and his his suggestions
0:45:03 his reservations and his the results of
0:45:07 his research soon as they most of them
0:45:09 have been accepted so we are firm
0:45:11 believers in striking the Shepherd and
0:45:14 the sheep will scatter we're not going
0:45:18 to run after fifty sheep take off the
0:45:20 shepherd the sheep will disperse so
0:45:22 let's attack the heart of the whole
0:45:24 entire yes that's a line from the 5050
0:45:37 rules to power or something been trying
0:45:43 to become negative 80 IQ self yes that's
0:45:51 what I'm saying
0:45:52 you mentioned eugenics people don't even
0:45:54 realize that the catastrophe that took
0:45:56 place in Eastern North were based off of
0:45:59 eugenics and there was a scientific
0:46:01 justification for the crimes that were
0:46:06 committed and supposedly committed so on
0:46:08 and so forth it was a scientific
0:46:09 justification and you look at this man
0:46:11 is being a lunatic or madman but to him
0:46:13 he said I'm following the way of nature
0:46:16 so just because someone abuses something
0:46:19 or uses something for his gain how can I
0:46:21 make the whole entire science made of
0:46:23 enforce obviously that's not sensible
0:46:25 that's not far from being academic let's
0:46:27 bring forward maybe for a tip to make
0:46:30 the viewers kind of touch way is we're
0:46:31 talking about in more explicit terms can
0:46:35 you give us an example of like a Senate
0:46:37 you talked about the chain of
0:46:39 right how did just just to give people
0:46:41 kind of a taste of what we're talking
0:46:43 about we're talking about this very
0:46:44 simply generation yeah it's an it is
0:46:48 between you and information project a no
0:46:52 narration we have you and the actual
0:46:56 report so if I'm watching the news we
0:46:58 say that something died and in very bad
0:46:59 trained around me train was derailed
0:47:02 okay I was hundreds of miles away from
0:47:04 the train derailment I was in my home I
0:47:06 didn't see it I didn't hear it directly
0:47:08 I'm far from it but I'm getting the news
0:47:11 so between me I'm on my living room sofa
0:47:13 and the derailed train and a hundred
0:47:16 people that died there has to be a chain
0:47:18 and that chain is let's say the train
0:47:22 conductor survived the crash or an
0:47:25 eyewitness and then eyewitness or the
0:47:28 the the the train conductor he signaled
0:47:30 for the emergency and then the ambulance
0:47:32 came and then from the imminence the
0:47:35 police came and the firefighters came
0:47:36 and then the news outlets came and then
0:47:39 it's broadcasted to my living room so
0:47:41 between me and the train being derailed
0:47:44 and the people losing their lives and
0:47:45 our accident there are people between me
0:47:47 middlemen mediums so that is the chain
0:47:50 the Senate and the train being derailed
0:47:53 500 people lost their lives horrible
0:47:55 accident that's the Meccan that's the
0:47:58 actual wording that's the text that's
0:48:00 the actual story
0:48:01 so therefore between me and that
0:48:03 obviously the news come from thin air it
0:48:06 can't come from a dream it can't come
0:48:08 from a hallucination it must come from
0:48:10 from being masseuse tangible tangible
0:48:12 alright so in Islam between us and the
0:48:16 prophets life sometimes over 1400 years
0:48:18 we didn't meet him so la la Li was
0:48:21 solemn we would love to meet him
0:48:22 but we did not meet him physically I
0:48:24 mean we hope that we meet him in the air
0:48:26 after some of our money who saw him but
0:48:28 we didn't meet him physically so
0:48:29 therefore between us and him there are
0:48:31 people there men or women who are those
0:48:33 men and women that is called the Sun
0:48:35 it's named the chain of reporters and
0:48:38 obviously we're not going to have a
0:48:41 hundred people 200 people between us and
0:48:43 the Prophet that's just too long but
0:48:45 between us and the hadith collectors
0:48:48 those who compiled the narrations put
0:48:51 them in a book in a cage
0:48:53 between the author of the Kanan and the
0:48:56 Prophet himself
0:48:57 there is the chain so any people would
0:49:00 be in that chain would you say maybe
0:49:01 three for the least is going to be three
0:49:04 to five okay three to find example of
0:49:07 like of a salad that goes party rahim
0:49:10 allah and his sahi yes samples hadith
0:49:15 said only three people join him in the
0:49:17 Prophet so an example there's many
0:49:20 examples remember Hardy got him along he
0:49:21 has a ship so he says hi death and I
0:49:24 left Ali if not bless his teacher
0:49:27 McCarty was a student of him
0:49:29 I'll even I'm did that he got it from
0:49:30 sook-yin oh yeah now who was his teacher
0:49:33 Sophie I need Nina he got it from a man
0:49:35 whose name was I'm gonna bend enough and
0:49:38 Mickey I'm gonna bend enough he took it
0:49:41 from Jabba the son of had deliverer who
0:49:44 met the prophesy said more even our best
0:49:46 as an example amenable quadinaros from
0:49:49 abdullah bin yusuf from him and manage
0:49:51 him mm quite at him like he never some
0:49:53 elbonian man okay you know immersing
0:49:55 trade from Zippity et Cie so we're
0:49:58 dealing with history already died in the
0:50:00 middle of the third century and the
0:50:02 profit audience ought to slam obviously
0:50:04 it's almost 200 years 20 years and
0:50:06 here's what death so therefore a
0:50:09 memorable hard he's gonna have his
0:50:10 teacher okay and then his teachers
0:50:13 teacher and then his teachers teacher at
0:50:17 the companion in the profit so those
0:50:19 names that you read the first check
0:50:21 abdullah yusuf i'll even though i've
0:50:23 been there i bought me a man whoever the
0:50:26 chef's remember party is that is
0:50:28 McCarty's teacher and it's going to be
0:50:30 either two more or three more men or
0:50:32 women will cheney memorable party in
0:50:35 between the prophet sallallaahu
0:50:37 clearness or not yeah remember party
0:50:40 says i definitely a man called burnished
0:50:43 or a one and it's only allah akbar' any
0:50:45 I blow bade male submits aloo masala
0:50:51 Lonnie was salami appalled Len in action
0:50:54 ladies those four men a bogeyman Shuaib
0:50:58 zuly ever made and ever forever and the
0:51:02 other time he was only for men or three
0:51:05 men
0:51:06 or two men and one woman that's the
0:51:08 Senate that's actual chain nose actual
0:51:10 names from sahih al-bukhari so something
0:51:14 we got a character shake as many people
0:51:16 Muslims and non-muslims alike they think
0:51:19 and they feel that the hadeeth have only
0:51:22 been preserved and the only way of
0:51:25 grading in critiquing hadiths is the
0:51:27 Internet and this is extremely erroneous
0:51:31 rather than criticism of the tetes takes
0:51:34 precedence over the criticism of the
0:51:36 mention knuckling Metin know cut them on
0:51:40 a necklace in it
0:51:41 so the text people they talk about this
0:51:44 nerdy status now which is important
0:51:46 that's the backbone like we said but
0:51:48 it's not the only way whether the
0:51:50 earliest scholars of hadith they never
0:51:51 differentiated between the senate in the
0:51:52 Matteson there's one thing rewire last
0:51:56 let me why can you can you touch upon
0:51:58 that so it's something which it is
0:52:00 clearly contradictory right to the
0:52:03 Quranic discourse is that something that
0:52:04 would be rejected in the other days
0:52:06 there lies no doubt but that's never
0:52:09 ever gonna happen there's nothing off in
0:52:11 it report
0:52:11 yeah which clearly clashes against look
0:52:14 we're in rather rather this goes back to
0:52:17 my previous principle is that there are
0:52:19 many ayats countless ayats that seemed
0:52:22 to be contradictory and a scholars of
0:52:26 Islam they have a systematic scientific
0:52:30 way of removing the supposed
0:52:33 contradiction in clash so the ish
0:52:36 Carroll is not specific to Hadees
0:52:38 there's several ayats which are
0:52:40 'muscular Samuel well I'll give you an
0:52:42 example like in on the inside Muslim
0:52:44 there's the hadith of the table where
0:52:46 the atom was created from Friday and on
0:52:48 Friday
0:52:49 yeah and while I was reading one times
0:52:53 and some criticism of Derick Whitney and
0:52:56 the body even in saying that this seems
0:52:59 to contradict the narrative of we can so
0:53:05 this trip actual yeah it is it is a
0:53:08 correct rule but it has to be used
0:53:10 properly yeah and we would not know is
0:53:13 it now we would depend upon the usage of
0:53:15 the early scholars who already done that
0:53:17 that process of course
0:53:19 of course but the science of
0:53:20 interpretation is one of the most
0:53:21 important sciences I was living and that
0:53:23 is also applied to the Quranic verses
0:53:25 themselves well forgotten creation of
0:53:28 the heavens and Aries so what did
0:53:30 Eliezer just make first the heavens the
0:53:32 earth were the trees with the mountains
0:53:35 placed there is this discrepancy what
0:53:38 for us today
0:53:45 yeah I've seen some discussion when
0:53:46 among them with fishermen like for
0:53:48 example if not best seems to say that
0:53:51 the heaven was created first but then
0:53:52 Qatada says well the earth so sorry if
0:53:55 not best as the earth and then Heather
0:53:57 says the heaven because of the by the
0:53:59 delicate eye and there is a proper way
0:54:02 of understanding that and there's a
0:54:04 proper bringing harmony and the same
0:54:06 applies to the authentic hadees however
0:54:08 yes will you will you what you're asking
0:54:11 about is that which is called magazine
0:54:14 induct yeah oh a directed nuts is it
0:54:18 proper for me to criticize the
0:54:21 authenticity of a hadith because it's
0:54:23 supposedly clashes with the Quranic
0:54:26 narrative yes
0:54:27 that is one of the styles and also
0:54:29 history and also other authentic hadith
0:54:32 and also even common sense but that's
0:54:34 not for every person and every person is
0:54:37 fancy and every hasty person who just
0:54:40 wants to find fault and say that is
0:54:42 fabricated and then you take if you take
0:54:45 that and you take that approach like I
0:54:46 said that will lead you to reject you
0:54:48 know what the Quran itself I was gonna
0:54:52 say all people don't realize this
0:54:55 beautiful Ellen or this very
0:54:56 sophisticated science which is referred
0:54:59 to as animal again or the idea of the
0:55:01 science of men the by aggressively the
0:55:03 biographies of men which which is a
0:55:07 incredible compliment to this whole
0:55:09 standard system that you're talking
0:55:10 about and so much as not only now you
0:55:12 have this system but you have people who
0:55:16 are literally mi5 check if you ever
0:55:18 checked everyone we have their
0:55:19 biographies Azhar as monk if those
0:55:22 individuals meet that criterion required
0:55:24 in order to be transmitters of the
0:55:26 Hadees that's something which is not as
0:55:28 rigorous in in Western historical
0:55:30 discourse in
0:55:31 touch upon the placement of Albert ideal
0:55:35 these kinds of concepts of kind of
0:55:39 vibrancy bribery fees of men how do you
0:55:42 miss women is walk up how do we use this
0:55:46 in order to to kind of do 10 p.m. or
0:55:49 roughly also track well I mean that's
0:55:53 like you said let's talk about the
0:55:55 countries in which we live
0:55:56 Western societies we talk about criminal
0:56:00 law
0:56:00 you mentioned mi5 FBI CIA all these
0:56:04 things how many people in America are
0:56:05 named John Tracy Mike Wow how many last
0:56:10 names are there Smith William kept
0:56:14 Muhammad Abdullah countless and they
0:56:18 have a sophisticated system of
0:56:20 differentiating between this one from
0:56:22 that one fingerprints I recognition did
0:56:26 a birth middle name and then the scores
0:56:28 on the Muslims were doing this in the
0:56:31 third century the second century the
0:56:33 fourth century when the West was
0:56:35 considered to be Spain and the Iberian
0:56:38 Peninsula and Lygia that was it that was
0:56:40 the West West was Cordoba there was no
0:56:42 such thing as the new land Newfoundland
0:56:44 there was no Iceland in greenland there
0:56:46 was no America according to those people
0:56:49 okay so in Murray Jack no doubt about
0:56:52 that is one of the greatest
0:56:53 contributions to human society and one
0:56:57 of the biggest feats in the history of
0:56:59 the humankind and that is the science to
0:57:01 precisely systematically look after
0:57:07 categorize separate combined names of
0:57:11 thousands upon thousands of men and
0:57:14 women different tribes different races
0:57:16 different lineage different genealogy
0:57:18 and classifying them so therefore if we
0:57:21 try to discredit in literature or look
0:57:24 at it as something which is a footnote
0:57:25 but something which is extremely faulty
0:57:27 and flawed then our Western societies
0:57:30 also flawed in useless okay why am I
0:57:34 being harassed in the airport right now
0:57:35 oh we thought you were someone else we
0:57:38 thought you were a different person how
0:57:39 was that my passport number is not the
0:57:41 same as him my name is not spell M
0:57:43 always mu
0:57:45 they're not being honest they're not
0:57:46 telling the truth and when they wouldn't
0:57:48 pinpoint someone and follow someone they
0:57:50 know what exactly how to do it and it
0:57:53 allows them that that is they have been
0:57:54 inspired from the Muslims efforts so
0:57:56 that's first and foremost secondly is we
0:57:59 study in one hadith Muslim Hadees
0:58:00 there's so many rules that pertain to
0:58:02 names nicknames by name surnames tribes
0:58:06 of a person was many a minute they used
0:58:09 to be slave there's so many different
0:58:11 detail points of making sure that this
0:58:14 person is not that person al Mysterio
0:58:18 I'll tell it well motorists as
0:58:20 mutashabiha al Dan Alma Fareed Alma JA
0:58:24 here okay men many Shahada become yet II
0:58:27 don't ask me he men not to be a lady
0:58:30 I bet all ya need chunk a chunk slice of
0:58:36 hadith animal must Allah is the
0:58:39 precision of the names and the people
0:58:41 and making sure that we don't in jumble
0:58:43 and mix people that this is a John Smith
0:58:46 and that's also John Smith and they may
0:58:48 have the same middle name it may come
0:58:49 from the same city or town in England
0:58:53 but they're two different people the two
0:58:55 different individuals one is a liar ones
0:58:57 trustworthy one met this person one
0:58:59 didn't meet this person so that in
0:59:01 itself there's an endless sea of Indian
0:59:04 and those who actually want to study it
0:59:06 and want to find it is the more you
0:59:15 study it the more you're humbled by it
0:59:18 you're humbled by it and I think that
0:59:22 one of the reasons in my a stencil with
0:59:24 this I think me personally from my own
0:59:26 studies and along those best one of the
0:59:29 reasons why the Western critics
0:59:32 made such a heavy claims against the the
0:59:35 Muslims and the sciences of Muslims of
0:59:37 course there's race they have other
0:59:39 agendas and aims but one of the reasons
0:59:43 is because it was just so marvelous as
0:59:45 if it was unbelievable how could one man
0:59:48 memorize this much how for one man
0:59:51 travel this long how can one person do
0:59:53 this how could one man have the ability
0:59:56 to it's impossible it has to be alive
0:59:59 it has to be fabricated and that goes
1:00:00 back to society and culture our society
1:00:03 in our culture everything is written
1:00:05 down everything is recorded everything
1:00:08 is documented you'll find someone and
1:00:10 other societies on which nothing is
1:00:11 written that nothing is documented and
1:00:13 call them savages but we call them they
1:00:15 are behind they are prehistoric but you
1:00:19 ask them about this trade and I'm not
1:00:20 this cracked and I'm a dislocation he
1:00:22 asked him about this direction and you
1:00:24 will be shocked how sharp their memory
1:00:26 is ok and this is something which is are
1:00:29 very important in American history I'll
1:00:34 give you a brief example of this there's
1:00:37 a true story of a man I don't know if
1:00:39 you've studied his life named Cochise Oh
1:00:42 Cochise was a very very very important
1:00:45 leader of the Chiricahua Apache Indians
1:00:48 or natives obviously people use the term
1:00:51 Indian politically incorrect and the
1:00:54 Apaches here they were considered to be
1:00:56 the last the last of all of the the
1:01:01 longest war in the United States history
1:01:02 of Indian Wars to hold out from the
1:01:06 occupation and it refused to be placed
1:01:08 on reservations they refused they just
1:01:10 they just they refused so this Marion
1:01:13 area name was cochis cochise here who
1:01:18 was a great leader of his people and
1:01:20 there was an American soldier or an X
1:01:23 American soldier he was tired of the
1:01:25 lies he's hired of the bloodshed was
1:01:27 tired of the oppression and the wrong
1:01:28 that was being done both sides and he
1:01:31 said I want to talk to this man Cochise
1:01:32 directly I want to talk to him directly
1:01:35 they say you're crazy kill you cuz skin
1:01:38 you they'll do this and he says I want
1:01:39 to talk to him I want to explain to him
1:01:41 how there can be a peace between the
1:01:43 settlers and between the natives so
1:01:46 obviously savage he's an Indian walks
1:01:49 barefooted yes bows and arrows we have
1:01:52 the US Cavalry we'll be done with him in
1:01:54 three months we'll eradicate the lands
1:01:57 from them and they'll be on a
1:01:58 reservation
1:01:58 so he said oil he maybe maybe he doesn't
1:02:00 want the shoes maybe he can't read and
1:02:03 write
1:02:03 maybe he doesn't know how to use this
1:02:05 instrument so on and so forth he says
1:02:07 but him and his Scouts they know
1:02:09 everything
1:02:10 we'll pass way in the entire state of
1:02:13 Arizona there's not a hill it's not a
1:02:15 well it's not nothing that they don't
1:02:18 know by heart and you use maps and
1:02:20 compasses you have that Scouts and you
1:02:23 get lost and so on and so forth so the
1:02:25 point that I'm trying to get to is is
1:02:26 that it's about culture someone who
1:02:29 write something for someone who Limor
1:02:30 eyes or something you understand that's
1:02:32 addressed from the point okay someone
1:02:35 who understands something the natural
1:02:37 way is no less inferior this someone who
1:02:40 uses a computer or an instrument unless
1:02:43 we're based on I'm superior to you
1:02:44 you're inferior to me and that's similar
1:02:46 to Jeff so in order jad was something
1:02:49 that many people they didn't consider to
1:02:50 be true they considered to be a lie it
1:02:52 had to be made up there's no way one man
1:02:54 can memorize as much and that's because
1:02:56 they came from societies which
1:02:57 everything was pin in pad pen and paper
1:03:01 what do you mean you found your way from
1:03:02 one island to the next without a compass
1:03:04 what do you mean you didn't use this
1:03:05 type of navigation what do you mean you
1:03:08 found your way from one Hill through
1:03:10 another Valley it's impossible you're
1:03:12 lying you and that's because you were
1:03:15 trained to use accomplish your training
1:03:17 you've met you're trained to use this
1:03:19 instrument in this man who has no shoes
1:03:21 walking barefooted he has all it at what
1:03:24 naturally so that's how we have to
1:03:27 understand inwardly gel is that as a
1:03:29 tremendous amazing feat and it isn't
1:03:32 some mystical science either as many of
1:03:33 you think so mr. science it's tangible
1:03:35 it's practical
1:03:37 it's tangent one is practice when animal
1:03:39 hadith is not a mystical science is a
1:03:41 tangible and practical science but just
1:03:43 because something is beyond your grasp
1:03:45 and beyond your limit and beyond your
1:03:47 culture it does not mean that it is
1:03:49 false and fabricated and spurious that's
1:03:51 the point it's a good point and I think
1:03:53 that this is a very pertinent point
1:03:56 especially considering the fact that
1:03:58 we're living in a society that's become
1:04:00 obviously Hypertech there is this hyper
1:04:02 technological society and stuff like
1:04:04 that so now in North our cultural
1:04:10 paradigm that oh this is this could be
1:04:13 done like you just mentioned it's a
1:04:15 beautiful example that especially in the
1:04:17 past that people be memorizing names and
1:04:20 their know their tribal lineage and
1:04:23 know what their fourth cousin their
1:04:26 fourth paternal great-aunt he was named
1:04:29 and all of these things that was
1:04:31 standard knowledge for human being
1:04:33 written say Arabia at that time now it's
1:04:37 completely abundant knowledge it's not
1:04:39 as and so people find it more difficult
1:04:43 to that things would have been memorized
1:04:46 in this way that exact words and freight
1:04:49 mean exactly understood and so on and so
1:04:52 forth but that that is what Clifford is
1:04:55 actually referred to this is very
1:04:57 important sources think description is
1:05:01 that in order and and is this courtroom
1:05:06 of kind of imposing cultural paradigms
1:05:10 on other ancient and medieval paradigms
1:05:13 that causes the like the gap of
1:05:16 information I think that's right well
1:05:18 what I wanted to ask you now I think
1:05:20 which is an interesting segue because we
1:05:22 took junket and the idea of because the
1:05:25 idea of Jakarta Dean I mean coming from
1:05:28 wrong is the idea of making criticisms
1:05:32 like historical criticisms against the
1:05:34 character or individuals such that
1:05:36 history would not be accepted from them
1:05:38 and it was done for and all the other
1:05:40 half a deal is actually saying that the
1:05:42 just nature of this individual and the
1:05:44 fit nature of them to be able to
1:05:46 transmit history this science is now
1:05:49 unfortunately being used by youngsters
1:05:53 and by people who are trying to learn
1:05:54 the religion by people like you know on
1:05:57 the extreme side of people who claim to
1:06:00 be seller fees and so on a sofa order to
1:06:03 its their companions and to attack their
1:06:06 colleagues and to attack mature and
1:06:08 Oliver and to to in the guise of trying
1:06:12 to protect the religion of preserver in
1:06:14 the same way as it was in the early days
1:06:16 where is the and the fallacy in this I
1:06:20 mean where have they gotten it from of
1:06:22 course clear clear very important
1:06:27 question um no not about that living in
1:06:30 United States from the east coast I can
1:06:33 relate to this personally no doubt well
1:06:36 I'll say person
1:06:37 is we have to understand that I don't
1:06:39 know who exactly but I do believe that
1:06:43 there is someone or there are people who
1:06:45 have an intentional design to spread
1:06:48 confusion among the Muslims yeah and I
1:06:52 don't believe that is a conspiracy
1:06:54 theory and my heart is effect and Allah
1:06:56 knows best is that there every person or
1:06:59 persons was diplomatic grief and have
1:07:02 systematically created things made
1:07:06 things made ways Lynn Ashton and folder
1:07:09 to make things worse than what they
1:07:12 already are with the Muslims yeah it's a
1:07:13 bad confusion mislead people take
1:07:17 people's rights well I didn't say that
1:07:19 but I said what national photo spread
1:07:22 confusion and then eyes no doc this is
1:07:24 one of the strongest rules so the fact
1:07:26 or the idea that I have someone who
1:07:29 never studied I have someone who barely
1:07:33 has studied the Abbott language I have
1:07:36 someone who has barely learned to friend
1:07:39 the basics of his recitation I have
1:07:42 someone who's a mature istic strategy we
1:07:45 say a mystic he is now the master of
1:07:48 jammu toddy and anybody can he noun
1:07:52 determines who's Justin who's unjust
1:07:55 who's equitable who's discouraged he
1:07:58 noun determines who to listen to who to
1:08:00 watch
1:08:01 khuda take from he noun determines who's
1:08:03 when in paradise was not whom Allah has
1:08:05 mercy upon whom are does not mercy upon
1:08:07 he noun determines who's qualified to
1:08:10 speak and teach on Islam that's a joke
1:08:12 obviously it's a laughingstock if you
1:08:15 were that concerned about Islam in the
1:08:16 Sunna and hadith and RT then the way of
1:08:19 the Sun if you would have left and you
1:08:20 came you were studied
1:08:21 that's first almost you you would have
1:08:24 left American you've studied and you
1:08:26 would have studied for two three years
1:08:27 you would stay there for very long time
1:08:29 you've accomplished things you have been
1:08:31 evaluated if you have had that much
1:08:33 later upon swimming uh and Dean and I'll
1:08:36 kinda let alone become a master of other
1:08:38 men you have a message yourself yet so
1:08:41 that's first and foremost you don't have
1:08:42 to go any further by saying that it's a
1:08:44 laughingstock as a joke okay I said
1:08:47 muscle Raheja as they say pedagogy I
1:08:49 need puppets is a
1:08:51 shadow shadow puppet it's a joke yeah
1:08:55 you can't be serious something you
1:08:57 cannot be serious okay so that's first
1:09:00 and foremost
1:09:01 mmm yeah he bit my enemy my head oh they
1:09:06 considered someone who didn't travel who
1:09:08 didn't leave their country who didn't go
1:09:11 out and face the arduous challenges the
1:09:14 pain the rigorous rigorous challenges of
1:09:17 Rizla they wouldn't even consider him to
1:09:20 be of anything worth mentioning it meant
1:09:22 in mind he says autobots one lad this
1:09:25 woman who rush then he says for people
1:09:28 you can expect no good from theory
1:09:32 there's no good that's gonna come from
1:09:33 these four people and from those four
1:09:35 people they mentioned war our children
1:09:37 yet to what Heidi to be better de well I
1:09:40 he he is the man who writes down hard
1:09:43 eats in his own country and he doesn't
1:09:45 travel to other countries and even my
1:09:48 teen in my mama didn't buck bed that was
1:09:51 the center of civilization the Sumerians
1:09:54 the Assyrians before Islam let alone
1:09:58 Islam that was the cradle of
1:10:00 civilization Mesopotamia let alone its
1:10:03 them I need a key that was all above
1:10:04 that and they said if you don't leave
1:10:06 invoke that and you gonna Kufa and
1:10:08 bustle and loss it if you don't go to
1:10:11 the Hejaz so you don't go to the message
1:10:13 so and so forth then you will not be
1:10:15 successful if you don't go out and seek
1:10:18 hadith from other than your town in your
1:10:20 city so what would they say about
1:10:21 someone who never even studied in their
1:10:23 city who doesn't live and didn't even
1:10:24 back then so before we go further and
1:10:26 defending and I mean we say that it is a
1:10:28 joke it's a joke it's a laughingstock
1:10:31 you're not a student of knowledge let
1:10:34 alone any man let alone an island let
1:10:37 alone some who's qualified to speak
1:10:38 about the honor of other people and then
1:10:41 company of other people so I would say
1:10:43 that it stops there if you have not
1:10:46 studied you have not traveled you
1:10:48 haven't went anywhere for years I'd
1:10:49 agree my systematically keeps I don't
1:10:52 talk about anyone hadith don't talk
1:10:54 about a Muslims honor because this
1:10:56 Muslim was starving and suffering and
1:10:58 you were in a UK eating fish and chips
1:11:01 [Laughter]
1:11:05 interesting a buyer is that a lot I mean
1:11:07 their faulty reasoning I'm in two weeks
1:11:09 we'll say here is that they for example
1:11:12 give him example hey they would use a
1:11:13 chef like chef Gabrielle McCauley
1:11:15 they'll say he praised us ok so this is
1:11:17 the prey system so now they've given up
1:11:19 on them so we're the true seller fees
1:11:21 for the sake of argument and what we're
1:11:23 gonna do is we're gonna determine for
1:11:25 you guys the public when you said is the
1:11:28 one on the hut who and who was bought on
1:11:30 the bottle who is the one on the truth
1:11:32 and who's the one on the Forester are
1:11:35 being given money like s pubs we have
1:11:38 certifications UK you have tried in
1:11:40 America you have figureheads like I will
1:11:42 Khadijah you have Y R then you have you
1:11:46 know Musa riches and they are now a
1:11:51 freaking the master just to go to the
1:11:53 cleansing cream but to actually
1:11:55 pronounce tab D on an individual doctor
1:11:58 say you're an innovator you're Adela is
1:12:02 lost and this has and this is the
1:12:05 problem with far-reaching effects that
1:12:09 it can stop marriages from taking place
1:12:11 it can actually cause divorces and it
1:12:14 can be a segue to divorce in court
1:12:16 family discord
1:12:18 communal crash all of this folder he
1:12:21 refers to the chaos that is referring to
1:12:23 and as obviously stopping people from
1:12:26 listening and benefiting from
1:12:27 individuals who who who are trying to
1:12:31 call to Islam who are not part of their
1:12:33 own cult or their own group or whatever
1:12:34 it is and so this is all built upon a
1:12:38 praise system okay that we've gotten
1:12:41 this praise from this year but in fact
1:12:44 those in same individuals many of which
1:12:46 have named their names haven't studied
1:12:49 Arabic language they can't communicate
1:12:50 in the language they can't even speak
1:12:52 Arabic they can't read the Quran I will
1:12:54 how did you cannot read the Quran so he
1:12:56 cannot read the that you know the actual
1:12:58 crime and this wild cotton is speaking
1:13:02 in in a conversational Arabic way and
1:13:04 now they're taking upon themselves rappy
1:13:06 because that a take away the honor of
1:13:11 Muslims so does it delusions of
1:13:20 well I guess Islam salafiyyah the way
1:13:24 the Soloff is the praise of [ __ ] that's
1:13:26 it yeah that's what it is quality
1:13:30 content in knowledge no [ __ ] will
1:13:34 impress us
1:13:35 Hoss that's it but they wouldn't take
1:13:37 the wooden except the standard for suck
1:13:39 I mean if you went to a dog if you went
1:13:41 to a cop right and you said well this is
1:13:45 this doctor praised me but did you go
1:13:48 through the process of learn that's not
1:13:50 important medicine the science of
1:13:52 Medicine rather the doctor impression he
1:13:55 himself is a doctor right right
1:13:58 he's legitimized through was through
1:14:01 being a what her doctor yes okay he
1:14:04 studied all right so I think that's the
1:14:08 best way of looking at it is is that is
1:14:10 the way of the son of his father is it
1:14:13 just the praise from the supposed praise
1:14:15 of one scholar if it it if that's if
1:14:18 that's what Islam is and the Sunnah and
1:14:21 way of the Salafi my momma if that's
1:14:22 what it is then there's no discussion
1:14:25 between us in them if that's was
1:14:27 thinking filled in as literally it's
1:14:29 nothing to talk about
1:14:30 and if that's not the case then I think
1:14:33 you should sit down and reinvestigate
1:14:34 your theory now we are upon guidance
1:14:36 because she ran and spoke of us he's got
1:14:39 one of us and because he was praised by
1:14:41 this island and then this animals
1:14:43 praised by the atom and it trickles down
1:14:45 to the UK and we're down the masters of
1:14:48 enmity Jam supposedly John wrote a deal
1:14:51 supposedly and we can push out what we
1:14:53 want and pull in who we want if that's
1:14:55 what you honestly think and feel allows
1:14:58 MODOK we're living in a great state of
1:15:00 illusion and delusion okay to think that
1:15:03 that that's how it works
1:15:05 all right there's so many different ways
1:15:07 of looking at the fallacy of this but
1:15:10 once again if twenty years of study 15
1:15:14 years of studying
1:15:15 scholastic achievements if all of them
1:15:18 are ignored and this date because of one
1:15:21 general vague praise of one item then I
1:15:24 would say
1:15:27 go ahead well you can't argue that candy
1:15:30 not nothing to say that's what you
1:15:33 consider the way of guidance
1:15:34 mmm Achmed in Meru Jeff Hardy you mean
1:15:38 Muslim mmm tell me ma'am I would if they
1:15:40 considered one general vague idea of one
1:15:43 item to be enough for an errand I mean
1:15:47 it cheapens the enterprise doesn't that
1:15:49 mean it cheapens the entire and surprise
1:15:51 for them to think that a single prays a
1:15:53 good word I think that it's extremely
1:15:56 disrespectful to knowledge yes sir and I
1:15:59 think that the people who claim to love
1:16:01 knowledge and love the scholars they
1:16:02 themselves are extremely disrespectful
1:16:03 the scholars seem disrespectful from so
1:16:06 many different aspects and from those
1:16:07 aspects are someone of no type of
1:16:10 scholastic background to be attached to
1:16:13 someone of a scholastic background how
1:16:15 is this year representative in the west
1:16:17 learn shameful and I'm not saying it's
1:16:21 the disrespect any scholar and I'm not
1:16:23 saying is to speak bad of any scholar
1:16:24 but this is a reality it's a harsh
1:16:26 reality how this person your deputy your
1:16:30 representative and this person has not
1:16:32 made any formal studies in this room I
1:16:35 myself I don't comprehend that they
1:16:43 don't comprehend and how someone who's
1:16:45 the
1:16:46 yani the least the chief scholastically
1:16:48 to be the leader I don't understand I
1:16:52 find I mean I would if I had a marriage
1:16:55 the problem I wouldn't I mean I wouldn't
1:16:57 do it like you know someone who can't
1:16:59 read the Quran I mean I would find it
1:17:01 very scary to find that this is the only
1:17:04 to say the least yeah yeah they beliefs
1:17:07 there's so many different problems with
1:17:10 their whole entire argument in premise
1:17:11 but what I'm doing right now is focusing
1:17:14 on have we imitated those people the
1:17:18 prophets of my sudden says were meant to
1:17:19 Shepherd bill Coleman for a minute and
1:17:22 most people to understand I did in a
1:17:23 negative sense what were imitates the
1:17:25 people he's from them
1:17:26 good and bad so are we actually copying
1:17:30 and imitating Mohammed given a Medini so
1:17:32 gana Modi are we are we being like them
1:17:36 they sought knowledge how can a person
1:17:39 claim to love the subtle
1:17:41 and he's opposed the foundation of the
1:17:43 son of a solid which is in which is
1:17:45 color which is Whistler and how can any
1:17:47 scholar approve and allow this person to
1:17:50 bear his name in his legacy in Western
1:17:53 countries and like you said marriage
1:17:55 divorce matches all types of affairs it
1:17:59 doesn't stop and which a person has the
1:18:01 full monopoly I determine who gets
1:18:04 married who gets divorced I determine
1:18:06 what mastery opens what messages I open
1:18:07 how do you allow someone who's yeah I
1:18:10 mean I don't want to say anything bad
1:18:12 about anyone but happy about someone who
1:18:13 has no scholastic achievements
1:18:15 represents you hmm
1:18:17 I find that personally extremely
1:18:18 problematic and the student is the way
1:18:21 they come across this the way they they
1:18:23 reach their conclusion is as well this
1:18:25 is for example I I'm not sure if I heard
1:18:27 this from you one of your lectures that
1:18:29 you were saying that when allah subhanaw
1:18:31 taala was talking about having led to me
1:18:33 our Latura
1:18:34 he didn't put caveats in place he didn't
1:18:37 say anything except this and except that
1:18:39 he says and hold firm to the Rope of
1:18:43 Allah and and you know don't become
1:18:45 divided but if I came on if I came on or
1:18:49 yourself we came on white power
1:18:50 we said let's hold and not be divided
1:18:55 you can expect resistance immediately
1:18:59 and one of the reasons behind that is in
1:19:02 Allah the unification of the Muslims the
1:19:09 strength of the Muslims is not the
1:19:12 objective whether the objective is to
1:19:15 weaken the Muslims and make them further
1:19:18 separated and to spread further chaos
1:19:20 you think is that parallel there like
1:19:22 you know that this my son conspiratorial
1:19:25 but the American government's bid to try
1:19:28 and will some some argue put black
1:19:31 people holding one completely and equip
1:19:33 them with weapons so intuitive and
1:19:37 create these kind of gang violence is
1:19:40 black on black crime or all that kind of
1:19:41 thing divide and conquer let them all
1:19:44 kill themselves kind of thing let them
1:19:45 destroy themselves
1:19:47 is there a parallel between that
1:19:49 approach and quote with these there are
1:19:53 no accidents
1:19:54 hmm no coincidences there lies no doubt
1:19:58 that there are no accidents and no
1:20:00 coincidences where did these things come
1:20:02 from who supports them and like you just
1:20:05 said that is the backbone of their
1:20:08 legitimacy Schieffelin has praised us
1:20:11 why did he praise you
1:20:13 yeah and what was the extent of his
1:20:15 praise and was the detail of his praise
1:20:17 and does his praise override other
1:20:19 things from Quran from Sunnah Fadi from
1:20:22 consensus or other scholars disparaging
1:20:25 you so why what has happened like this
1:20:30 what is the many there many before and
1:20:33 after there many there many and the
1:20:35 point is not to teach scholar against
1:20:37 Cara that's what that's what they do
1:20:38 that's not the point the point is that
1:20:41 what is the fruit and the result
1:20:44 what's the and the result and very
1:20:47 important point is is that who's being
1:20:49 refuted who's being attacked people have
1:20:51 clear innovations clear misguidance
1:20:54 clear Kufa are those are people or are
1:20:59 there others so I have no doubt of my
1:21:01 heart and Allah knows best is that there
1:21:03 are people who don't want good for the
1:21:05 OMA yeah and they want further division
1:21:07 further separation and then they try to
1:21:10 justify in Islam if I their dark
1:21:13 intentions by saying oh this principle
1:21:16 and all this or this but the end result
1:21:18 is what the end result is so at the end
1:21:20 of the day at the end of the day at the
1:21:21 end of the day the whole class above the
1:21:24 confusion who is son if he was not sent
1:21:27 a team who's refuted who was being
1:21:29 refuted shipful and praised us [ __ ] for
1:21:32 that spoke against this one so on so
1:21:34 forth and gentleman brief is all a big
1:21:36 game it's a big game ok it's a big game
1:21:40 and over the last 2025 years we've seen
1:21:42 the results of that game yeah if a
1:21:44 person actually he's trying to follow
1:21:46 the way of the son of a Saudi and trying
1:21:48 to be son of Qi and trying to follow the
1:21:50 tradition of Heinie's then nothing would
1:21:52 stop him or her from doing that mmm
1:21:55 bottom line because someone you're not a
1:21:59 subtly because you said this you're not
1:22:01 a subtle thing because you did this and
1:22:03 you're a deviant ok no problem
1:22:04 you're not assertive fiing your deviant
1:22:06 as well because you oppose the subtle
1:22:08 you did
1:22:08 travel to see in you didn't study you
1:22:11 didn't go anywhere you didn't learn
1:22:12 anything I didn't copy the code Manama
1:22:14 that's the first thing I learned
1:22:16 we're just systematic knowledge where's
1:22:19 your formal Islamic education if you
1:22:22 love the start of so much Harvey not
1:22:24 imitated and copy them and emulated them
1:22:26 in their relentless tall above it so
1:22:30 let's answer that question first let's
1:22:31 put that on the table first once we do
1:22:33 that everything else become easier and
1:22:35 that's because you're not qualified as
1:22:36 sweeping this issue
1:22:37 you're not qualified to talk about this
1:22:39 clastic science you have no formal
1:22:41 education we don't want your worthless
1:22:43 PDF we don't you understand anyone can
1:22:47 write a PDF anyone can cut and paste ten
1:22:49 people can sit in a room and put an
1:22:50 article show us where you have followed
1:22:53 the way the mimic met and party and saw
1:22:55 it systemic in once you do that then we
1:22:58 can talk when we can discuss that's what
1:23:01 I would the concept of I've got a
1:23:04 question for you about a towel and I'm
1:23:07 busy with temple and we talked about
1:23:09 this is quite a concept of people or
1:23:12 selphie not working with people who are
1:23:15 not celephais etc etc where do you stand
1:23:17 on this on this matter like dude what do
1:23:20 you see as do you see a problematic for
1:23:22 example if there is an enterprise well
1:23:24 risk let's say our enterprise or charity
1:23:27 enterprise or whatever is a project that
1:23:29 is to be done and Muslims from different
1:23:33 denominations if there's a common good
1:23:35 black Muslim a variety must have a
1:23:37 common interest for all of those Muslims
1:23:40 that they would work together on even
1:23:42 though for example you might have Sufi
1:23:44 and Salafi let's say for the sake of
1:23:46 argument do you would you say that so
1:23:48 long as you know one is not we're not
1:23:52 unifying upon maokai and we're not
1:23:54 unifying upon Friedel positions but so
1:23:57 long as one is able to freely
1:23:59 distinguish themselves identical by
1:24:02 identity that in some context this
1:24:05 wouldn't be a problem
1:24:06 would you take the hard-line position of
1:24:08 those individuals that say that I would
1:24:11 say that we don't cooperate with anyone
1:24:15 unless they're on exactly we're we're
1:24:18 upon if they want guidance they'll come
1:24:20 to us if
1:24:22 want the truth they'll come to us it is
1:24:24 absolutely Haram to go to them to speak
1:24:26 to them to teach them you can't do
1:24:28 anything in your community your country
1:24:29 your state anyone else that is outside
1:24:32 of our gates is a deviant they're going
1:24:35 to the fire of hell and a laws angles
1:24:37 then we are guided we have the knowledge
1:24:40 these are the scholars that we take from
1:24:42 and other people that oppose us they are
1:24:45 partisans they have party partisanship
1:24:47 with them his BIA
1:24:48 even though we say only us only me and
1:24:52 the whole entire UK only these and whole
1:24:54 Arabia only these only only only only
1:24:56 only only and we are not to do any
1:24:59 cooperation with anyone unless they are
1:25:02 101 percent absolutely
1:25:06 that's my treat and that is the way that
1:25:10 the Muslims will unify and that is the
1:25:12 way that the Muslims will stand against
1:25:13 their enemies and that is the way that
1:25:15 the Muslims will bring honor and dignity
1:25:18 to the name of Islam and the word of
1:25:19 Allah will be the highest in the land
1:25:21 through this ideology and through this
1:25:23 practice that's my belief on that of
1:25:32 course if a master invites me I've
1:25:34 studied in Medina they said please come
1:25:36 give a class I can't give a class of
1:25:39 course not
1:25:39 I can't give a photo of course not if
1:25:41 the ignorant Muslims in my city say oh
1:25:44 we knew you were a little kid now you
1:25:46 please come teach us of course I can
1:25:50 [Laughter]
1:25:52 some permissible that's not my answer to
1:25:59 that question would you have
1:26:04 conversations with some people who do
1:26:06 believe a genuine level that there's no
1:26:08 there's no room for corporation at all
1:26:12 in any situation as I was saying go back
1:26:17 to the scholars that they quote don't
1:26:20 look at the proofs and evidences and
1:26:22 that's because this is something very
1:26:25 paradoxical and if you've debate with
1:26:28 someone of this mindset the debate will
1:26:30 start off with Quran Sunnah no doubt you
1:26:33 bring Quran and Sunnah in your favor
1:26:35 that really supports
1:26:36 then they say what scholars you quotes
1:26:39 Karl exactly how it went down when I
1:26:40 spoke to one enjoy religion scholars is
1:26:50 about friends you go back soon they say
1:26:52 way the discussion went with me one of
1:26:55 them was the ideas that you know how
1:26:56 non-believer taqwa is that is a general
1:26:58 verse and and unless you get some
1:27:01 linkages that see so to specify and we
1:27:05 have to go with the general a and what
1:27:07 they did was you can't you can't allow
1:27:10 the game to go that far it's a joke it's
1:27:12 a game yeah once more once more is it
1:27:16 permissible for you to go to this
1:27:18 message or they whatever cetera you say
1:27:22 it is permissible for me to go why is it
1:27:24 permissible a law says this the prophecy
1:27:28 says that the debate starts off with
1:27:31 Quran and hadith well it they can't
1:27:34 reach you a net then it turns into
1:27:35 scholars scholars scholars scholars
1:27:37 okay no problem we don't have to mention
1:27:39 the proofs of grantees let's talk about
1:27:41 scholars you caught another scholar
1:27:43 three scholars he said no that's not
1:27:44 he's not a specialist in this or he
1:27:46 doesn't know this that's from his
1:27:48 mistakes and that's from his errors okay
1:27:50 we can't wait on time on scholars that
1:27:52 can we use each mark commuted the
1:27:55 argument will never go anywhere it
1:27:58 starts off with each T head and ends up
1:28:00 with took heed if you say well I'm a
1:28:02 blind follow of this island who said
1:28:03 it's permissible what I said no you
1:28:05 can't be a blind follower of him you
1:28:06 could only be a Brancato of our ship on
1:28:08 this year so it's a game you cannot
1:28:10 allow the game to go on it's not a
1:28:13 Scholastic debate it is not a crucial of
1:28:16 imminency had it's an issue of luck
1:28:18 it's a game it's a joke you call them
1:28:21 out you invite them to have a scholastic
1:28:23 debate with the condition of no
1:28:25 technique they won't accept
1:28:28 let me clarify what I meant let me
1:28:31 explain what I snow will only deal with
1:28:33 your recorded statements we're only cut
1:28:36 and paste and edited interpret how we
1:28:38 want to introduce a game and do not
1:28:40 allow the game to go that far let alone
1:28:42 the fact that these people as I said
1:28:43 before they have not formally studied
1:28:45 this room they do not deserve that type
1:28:48 of respect
1:28:49 you sit and have an actual scholastic
1:28:51 debate because they're unprepared for
1:28:52 that Quran hadith then it turns into
1:28:54 Scott Scott is back to its name you
1:28:56 never ever ever win right and we all
1:28:59 know the man chef in Montana he's some
1:29:02 of everything and that is if you beat
1:29:04 them if you win if you make a point then
1:29:07 the last frontier is to insult you and
1:29:09 call you a bad name idiot okay you said
1:29:14 Matt up to who whenever I debated in a
1:29:18 learning man I was when I now got any oh
1:29:21 man up to Germany and I've never debated
1:29:25 an ignorant man except to the ignorant
1:29:26 one and that's because inaudible
1:29:29 Hannibal partly sunny the weaker your
1:29:32 knowledge DeLong your tongue and so you
1:29:34 can't win there's no making no sense out
1:29:37 of it there they're not going to listen
1:29:39 to anything you say anything you bring
1:29:41 anything at your crews if you have a
1:29:43 debate that starts off with the system
1:29:45 you'll take it to another system that's
1:29:46 person foremost that's first and
1:29:48 foremost last but not least is last but
1:29:50 not least the concept of the tower when
1:29:52 are they doing what up wha what master
1:29:55 do Kenny cannot go to I would add to it
1:29:59 like that's ask ourselves these great
1:30:05 scholars that we all quote from and
1:30:08 learned from and they quote from what
1:30:10 was their opinion in view did share a
1:30:13 beer go to other countries and other
1:30:15 messages other centers the shekel and
1:30:18 Danny riding mulatto what man did he
1:30:20 teach in what books did he teach this is
1:30:24 a serious question
1:30:25 as these are the best they mean I'm open
1:30:28 when he returned from Saudi to Yemen
1:30:30 what message did he teach it what books
1:30:33 did he teach what's up easy to teach
1:30:34 between me and you is history and that
1:30:37 is Abdullah Mubarak and many of the son
1:30:39 of they will say columnist at myeloma
1:30:41 and Kevin is that man now I need him
1:30:43 attorney whenever they lied and he
1:30:46 fabricated we used history against them
1:30:48 beautiful and many of the Sun up they
1:30:50 would also say Bane and I will bein in a
1:30:52 coal mill cotton between us and between
1:30:54 them are lengths and we spend by the
1:30:57 legs of the table is the assignee the
1:30:59 history so you're telling me that I
1:31:01 can't go into any Masjid unless I'm
1:31:03 unless unless unless all right let's not
1:31:06 talk about Quran and Sunnah because we
1:31:07 already know that they will never go
1:31:08 nowhere about quoted verse you say
1:31:11 that's not the proper understanding
1:31:11 ahora hadith you say that's not the
1:31:13 proper understanding all right no
1:31:15 problem a verse that you quote I need
1:31:17 that you quote of course that's the
1:31:18 proper understanding mashallah no
1:31:20 problem
1:31:20 so let's quote the scholars that you
1:31:22 quote and let's go to history and this
1:31:25 is not a slander I hope it's not slander
1:31:27 it's not an accusation and it's not a
1:31:29 lie but as historical fact that dr.
1:31:32 Schiff revered even had a medically read
1:31:36 his life when he went when he traveled
1:31:39 who he taught please went out with how
1:31:42 can you say that
1:31:43 how can you read this and then say oh no
1:31:45 that's specific to him Chikara Benny
1:31:47 Muhammad Allah read the messages on the
1:31:50 books that he taught and the messages in
1:31:51 which he taught he'd be shocked what
1:31:53 you'll find she'll move around him Allah
1:31:55 before he established the magic
1:31:57 read what he did you'll be shocked she
1:32:00 would say me chef embezzling I read what
1:32:02 they said read what they did and you'll
1:32:03 be shocked so let's not talk about Quran
1:32:05 hadith sometime I thought of because
1:32:08 we'll never ever go anywhere talking
1:32:10 like that but I'm gonna prove to you
1:32:12 that you're a hypocrite and that you're
1:32:15 a liar and that you hide information and
1:32:18 you hide facts and you sweep history
1:32:21 under the rug because it's against your
1:32:22 agenda that's that's that's that's all I
1:32:25 would say between me in between you is
1:32:28 that historical fact why haven't you
1:32:30 mentioned that about himself
1:32:34 yeah I mean I've seen I've seen [ __ ]
1:32:36 falls down and stuff appear on all kinds
1:32:38 of shows and all kinds of programs and I
1:32:40 mean just last year they had like a
1:32:42 Kings meeting with her people from all
1:32:43 kinds of Dorma nations I think some she
1:32:45 is with it in fact as well and the Sufis
1:32:51 between meeting you is there the Islamic
1:32:55 University of Medina you can't study
1:32:56 there because there his be teachers
1:32:58 people upon the way of a Hassan al-banna
1:33:00 these were many scholars and many
1:33:02 students of knowledge who studied in him
1:33:04 and say and it's also paradoxical
1:33:06 because they all call themselves sanity
1:33:08 so those who come from the match they
1:33:10 say and this is a this is a fact it is
1:33:12 Haram
1:33:13 you cannot study an Islamic University
1:33:15 of Medina why can't you
1:33:17 they say because all your teachers they
1:33:19 are not solitary they're not upon the
1:33:21 correct way is there Hani muslimeen and
1:33:23 Jamar to believe then this and then and
1:33:25 so it's own and so forth and that's a
1:33:26 fact
1:33:27 that is a fact it's not a conspiracy a
1:33:29 fact
1:33:30 wait those who do not like the Salafis
1:33:33 of the manche
1:33:34 do not agree with them don't like shake
1:33:36 yeah hello Judy and this one ever what
1:33:37 do they say they say no that's wrong you
1:33:40 can go to Medina you can't study in
1:33:41 Medina but the history teachers the
1:33:44 Deacon teachers you know you just you
1:33:45 know you navigate through it you pick
1:33:47 and choose we take the class and you
1:33:49 move forward all right no problem for
1:33:51 you so I can listen to a deviant teacher
1:33:54 in school for five days out of the week
1:33:56 four years out of my life but I can't go
1:34:00 and treat your class the ignorant
1:34:01 Muslims in the message it don't you find
1:34:04 a little hypocritical and contradictory
1:34:07 fluid at the least
1:34:10 as you mentioned Shanna this scholar he
1:34:14 appears on this TV program he goes to
1:34:16 this message shakily I went out with
1:34:17 this group he taught them he went out
1:34:19 with them that's fine but we live in the
1:34:21 lens of cooker and [ __ ] I wish their
1:34:24 church bells synagogues and Catholic
1:34:26 Church we're not allowed to make any
1:34:29 tower any teaching any investment any
1:34:32 contribution to our societies unless
1:34:34 there's a long extensive list of
1:34:36 conditions and purposes I humbly find
1:34:38 that to be extremely hypocritical the
1:34:40 lands of the Muslims where the most
1:34:42 harshness should be used
1:34:43 I wish the Sunnis are dominant and
1:34:45 backed by the government and paid for
1:34:47 and funded they have the ability to say
1:34:50 no you can't come here no we're not
1:34:51 going there no we're not speaking here
1:34:53 and for argument's sake if we had to go
1:34:56 and do something which was wrong for
1:34:58 argument's sake due to the necessity of
1:35:00 the lands of court on which we live
1:35:02 let alone the fact that these Muslims
1:35:04 amassed you they're ignorant they don't
1:35:06 have no formal way their cab drivers
1:35:09 they're immigrants they're people who
1:35:10 came home from jail they need people to
1:35:12 teach them to educate them and give them
1:35:14 the basis of Islam and you tell me that
1:35:16 I cannot go there oh [ __ ] for land could
1:35:19 and Schieffelin did I don't see any
1:35:22 consistency in your argument rather I
1:35:24 find the rules to be extremely
1:35:25 hypocritical and until you establish the
1:35:30 consistent
1:35:31 seeing in parallel until you attack that
1:35:33 you speak out against that moon car and
1:35:35 that evil don't say nothing about the UK
1:35:38 and America
1:35:39 Lancel cook for this chick because
1:35:41 you're not you're not being honest
1:35:42 you're not being honest and I can say
1:35:44 these are a few examples and it's not as
1:35:45 landing as any scholars its historical
1:35:48 facts historical facts read about our
1:35:50 granny she looks blue she's gonna be
1:35:52 read where they went and what they did
1:35:54 in what mashes they went into and what
1:35:56 they did to establish what they had this
1:35:57 time to read about it don't take it from
1:35:59 me but we know for sure that they're not
1:36:01 going to mention that they have they
1:36:04 have no scholastic integrity joke it's a
1:36:08 game now and this podcast I wanted to
1:36:12 ask you now spoken about lots of
1:36:14 different things things relating to the
1:36:16 preservation just some things relating
1:36:18 to palpable Island we also talked about
1:36:20 some aspects of the community fringe
1:36:24 aspects divide-and-conquer attitudes of
1:36:27 these I wanted to ask you now general
1:36:30 advice okay for beginner for a day for
1:36:36 for the black you know especially our
1:36:41 field downloads in almost lives and
1:36:45 given our to different types of Muslims
1:36:48 who are just coming on practicing and
1:36:49 stuff like that what advice to give us
1:36:51 and in terms of moving forward and
1:36:54 practice to strengthen people clear
1:36:58 sincerity you gotta be sincere Who am I
1:37:03 really gonna swore and what do I want
1:37:06 for the people don't really adore anyone
1:37:07 good for them don't want them to be
1:37:09 guided what I want them to remain upon
1:37:11 misguidance analyze no doubt if you're
1:37:14 sincere and you honestly earnestly want
1:37:16 good for someone it's gonna have an
1:37:18 effect on what you do and how you do it
1:37:20 and just that one point alone that
1:37:22 attitude of if they wanted the guidance
1:37:25 they will come to us that's not sincere
1:37:26 approach it's not a sincere approach
1:37:29 it's not a sincere approach if they want
1:37:31 it enable come to us if they wanted to
1:37:33 be guided the neighbor that that's not
1:37:35 sincere that is a gang mentality and I
1:37:38 monopolizing mentality is that we have
1:37:40 the troops that no one else is entitled
1:37:41 to it arise so sincerity other class
1:37:45 you have to be sincere for La Scala for
1:37:47 yourself why am i speaking why am I
1:37:49 talking why don't I like you more how
1:37:51 many jab is it for the face of a law
1:37:53 sincerely or is it for other personal
1:37:56 reasons
1:37:56 if I don't like you because of something
1:37:58 that you did wrong with something that
1:37:59 you're saying wrong then anyone else who
1:38:01 does the same thing also I'm forced to
1:38:03 do what hate them as well but we don't
1:38:05 see that you went there you spoke your
1:38:08 deviant he went and spoke it's a
1:38:10 different story I'll speak with you I'll
1:38:12 talk with you but I won't speak with
1:38:14 this one I won't stop this one it's not
1:38:15 sincere I'm debate with you are the bill
1:38:18 with anyone every time they can Harry of
1:38:20 all walks of life and religious I'll sit
1:38:22 talk with them but I won't say anything
1:38:23 to this person that's not sincere and
1:38:26 that's because there's a clear prejudice
1:38:29 in your love and in your hate cleaner or
1:38:32 not okay so we have the concept of a
1:38:34 noble brother
1:38:35 a noble staff a noble teacher
1:38:38 masha'Allah
1:38:39 no one's noble except for these people
1:38:41 no one has any respect no contributions
1:38:45 to knowledge to in except for them
1:38:46 you can't be serious that's not sincere
1:38:48 and the proof that is not sincere is
1:38:51 that there's a prejudice and your love
1:38:53 and in your hate I love anyone who falls
1:38:56 under these conditions and I hate anyone
1:38:58 who does what falls on others condition
1:39:01 so I the class and the class sincerity
1:39:03 for yourself and having sincere
1:39:06 intentions for the people that you're
1:39:07 talking to and you're speaking to one
1:39:09 good for them you want them to be guided
1:39:11 you want them to receive a loss mercy
1:39:13 you want them to know the truth and not
1:39:15 I'm looking for them to go to the fire
1:39:17 though I'm searching for their mistakes
1:39:20 I'm searching for the errors I'm looking
1:39:21 for an excuse for me to legitimize them
1:39:24 being banished and outcast indent number
1:39:28 one number two is common sense idea and
1:39:32 a layman Muslim you both have the
1:39:34 responsibility of using common sense do
1:39:37 you honestly think and feel that this is
1:39:39 the religion of Allah deep inside this
1:39:42 chaotic mess do you think this is a slam
1:39:46 you think that's what Allah wants from
1:39:47 us do you think this is in do you think
1:39:49 it's a scholarship scholastic do you
1:39:51 think this is Dawa do you think this is
1:39:54 how you supposed to conduct yourself and
1:39:55 behave and carry yourself as a Muslim as
1:39:57 a scholar
1:39:58 as a Dahlia I do like sense that much
1:40:01 not knowledge but common basic occur and
1:40:05 we all know the value of the mind in the
1:40:08 Quran and the hadith and among the son
1:40:11 of a solid as far as the Quranic ayat
1:40:13 then we don't have to mention Allah says
1:40:17 about the absurd
1:40:19 after that Tom Hillen okay
1:40:22 allah awj Ellen says literally no hair a
1:40:26 lot of praise is the mind he praises
1:40:29 good sound common sense okay about
1:40:32 Lublin lieth Kahuna be half lop raises
1:40:35 up and the prophet alayhi salatu salam
1:40:37 in so many a hadith he taught the
1:40:41 campaigns the value of the sound mind he
1:40:44 said would be both a hardy kun-sun god
1:40:47 what a man is intimate with his wife is
1:40:49 charity what did the campaign in say el
1:40:52 sol la si ahi Masha what to who we are
1:40:55 who we have Angela
1:40:57 how can a man fulfill his base desires
1:40:59 his carnal desires and get a reward from
1:41:01 Allah how's that make sense what did the
1:41:04 prompts otherwise let him say all right
1:41:05 so know what I have he Harmon I care not
1:41:08 a word he says that if a man's fulfilled
1:41:11 his sexual desires and he get I said of
1:41:14 course it was so he paid the Companions
1:41:17 the power of the mind is that you have
1:41:19 to see things correctly okay the son of
1:41:22 a solid such as a nomadic riding along
1:41:25 thought it was praised many of the
1:41:26 scholars were saying they same era a to
1:41:28 my son Auckland pneumatic
1:41:30 he said I never saw its kind of hadith
1:41:32 when a greater mind a sharper mind and
1:41:36 sound an intellect any man magic
1:41:38 they didn't praise merit for spidey
1:41:39 didn't praise important in in praising
1:41:42 for safety by in this awesome they
1:41:44 praised him for his workforce so I had
1:41:46 in common sense and common sense is the
1:41:49 foundation of genius as a card the
1:41:51 foundation of a prodigy is to have sound
1:41:53 solid common sense and it also about in
1:41:56 our minority communities in America and
1:41:58 the UK in Canada was surrounding see all
1:42:01 the dogs he other bones around me how
1:42:04 many dogs did you hear barking so far
1:42:07 countless dogs what's around about cook
1:42:10 food and [ __ ] innovation we're
1:42:11 surrounded by disobedience it is upon me
1:42:14 to use my common sense how can I make
1:42:17 things better how can I contribute to my
1:42:19 society and that mentality of you can't
1:42:21 you have to go back to him you have to
1:42:23 ask his permission that's not common
1:42:24 sense and we both know this not common
1:42:27 sense right
1:42:27 number three bentonite sada is deserve
1:42:31 success deserve success deserve guidance
1:42:35 deserve guidance one of the most
1:42:38 influential athletes of the 20th century
1:42:41 one of the most influential of them or
1:42:43 me in my life no doubt about that is
1:42:46 Mike Tyson Mike Tyson was far more than
1:42:48 just a boxer it was much more than just
1:42:50 a boxer and many people they don't give
1:42:52 him his proper status and value he
1:42:54 wasn't just a brute or brother it's far
1:42:56 more than that and his teacher his
1:42:58 mentor his [ __ ] we all know was custom
1:43:01 ro custom ro when he adopted him he made
1:43:04 it his adopted son and he saw his
1:43:06 potential and he was literally a gifted
1:43:08 gifted young man there will be the
1:43:10 youngest heavyweight champion in the
1:43:11 history of boxing and so behind the law
1:43:13 that proved true
1:43:14 and right before he won the championship
1:43:17 custom auto died okay he was younger
1:43:20 than Floyd Patterson all right so the
1:43:22 point motor story is he gave this man
1:43:25 principles and values of life in the
1:43:28 boxing and from those principles and
1:43:30 those values was to deserve success he
1:43:33 would tell Mike Tyson you're not going
1:43:35 to win the fight because you're stronger
1:43:36 faster or to win the fight because you
1:43:39 deserve to win the fight and that's
1:43:41 because you trained harder than the next
1:43:42 man you studied it longer you worked
1:43:45 harder you made your body creaking
1:43:47 cringe and pride on pain you deserve to
1:43:50 win
1:43:50 so we're confused on would it take fun
1:43:53 to listen to who to sit with to sell it
1:43:56 feed who's not son of he this person
1:43:59 said this my friend this person is about
1:44:01 the hadith I don't know what to do learn
1:44:03 I'm confused
1:44:04 do you deserve guidance you deserve to
1:44:07 know how much of the basics of Islam
1:44:09 have you studied and mastered have you
1:44:12 assured for yourself that you deserve
1:44:14 not to be confused so most of us we want
1:44:17 to be guided we want to be sure we want
1:44:19 to be clear but we don't deserve it
1:44:21 we're not working for it we are not
1:44:22 studying the fundamentals of a slam
1:44:24 we're not reading the fundamental books
1:44:26 of slam we're not studying the
1:44:27 rudimentary things in the slam and then
1:44:30 we have the nerves to say I'm confused I
1:44:32 don't know who to listen to you don't
1:44:34 deserve to know you don't deserve to
1:44:35 have a clear distinction because you
1:44:38 yourself you don't value the
1:44:39 fundamentals you haven't trained hard
1:44:41 enough you have a worked hard enough
1:44:42 and I'm not someone being a scholar or
1:44:43 student knowledge I'm someone being a
1:44:45 fundamentally sound Muslim so that's a
1:44:50 very important piece of advice for
1:44:51 myself all of us is for us to deserve
1:44:53 success deserved victory and that is by
1:44:56 hard work and most of us are lazy when
1:44:59 lethargic we want instant gratification
1:45:01 satisfaction we want a shake to tell us
1:45:04 to give us a spot walk when the brothers
1:45:05 say it's oh listen to him and that's it
1:45:07 we don't want to use our minds we want
1:45:09 to conveniently be spoon-fed and
1:45:11 pampered and then we complain later on
1:45:13 when we're lied to and when we're
1:45:16 misguided and when someone goes astray
1:45:19 who complained it's so confusing one day
1:45:21 he's on a Sunday the next day he's on
1:45:23 innovation one day we're listening to
1:45:24 him next day he's a staunch in the
1:45:26 bigger you're gonna be let around you're
1:45:29 gonna be directed by you're gonna be
1:45:30 pulled by the ear by anyone pulls you
1:45:32 here and that's because you don't
1:45:33 deserve success so those are the three
1:45:35 pieces of advice that I would give
1:45:36 sincerity four lives or job is to use
1:45:39 your common sense and be in the nine
1:45:41 Charter is to train and to work hard and
1:45:43 the layman Muslim to compliment
1:45:46 incorporating the fundamentals of this
1:45:48 religion and for a part of in to
1:45:51 comprehend the rule and in which will
1:45:53 lead him to getting off the food or and
1:45:55 in a fact and the different
1:45:57 discrepancies among the scholars which
1:45:59 could be intimidating or confusing and
1:46:01 of course what the last part on is all
1:46:03 success laughter it's been a pleasure
1:46:08 having you on this podcast so this is
1:46:09 the seventh podcast and chat longer
1:46:11 they're trying to put them all up on
1:46:14 some kind of sound cloud platform what I
1:46:16 was going to say is that could you just
1:46:18 tell people about your YouTube channel
1:46:20 and your Instagram and some of your
1:46:23 socials for people that want to follow
1:46:24 you laughs example of hydron for hosting
1:46:28 me once again it was my pleasure
1:46:30 and I would say that I'm Angela we have
1:46:33 idea to Cybercom
1:46:34 idea to subbable.com and now on YouTube
1:46:37 we have several channels they've had a
1:46:39 disciple we have mostly Q&A also an
1:46:43 Instagram we have different lessons
1:46:45 quotes that we post Facebook as well and
1:46:48 basically hadith disciple something that
1:46:51 has been fermenting in my mind for many
1:46:52 many years when I first started the
1:46:55 youtube channel in 2012 those what I did
1:46:57 studies and on hamdullah I always wanted
1:47:00 to do something for myself by myself I
1:47:02 always wanted to be in sha Allah some
1:47:05 type of key towards good and I wanted to
1:47:08 share what Allah gave me I wanted to
1:47:11 allow people to have access to certain
1:47:13 things that they wouldn't normally have
1:47:15 access to via video via audio the books
1:47:18 that we discuss the things that we quote
1:47:20 from someone and so forth and some of
1:47:22 the things that we like and we love and
1:47:24 no clay M we'd like to share with that's
1:47:26 what I did this I was about that's one
1:47:28 whoopsie Q&A is about people they ask
1:47:31 questions people they post requests we
1:47:33 do different foot buzz so many things
1:47:36 hum that innovative five minutes of Veda
1:47:38 book reviews different things like this
1:47:40 in which we have two main themes the
1:47:43 first theme is to introduce the laymen
1:47:45 Muslim to the sciences of the swimmer
1:47:48 and the scientism hadith the most Fela
1:47:51 the terminology the books hardy the
1:47:54 preservation how the Sunna was preserved
1:47:56 in detail because obviously a podcast we
1:47:58 can't mention everything right and also
1:48:00 to give the Muslims advice admonishments
1:48:05 guidance and benefits those are the main
1:48:08 points of my the disciple and I hummed
1:48:10 it as much more than use a website or a
1:48:12 YouTube channel or we consider to be a
1:48:14 mindset or as we said a philosophy we
1:48:17 considered to be a school of thought a
1:48:18 way of looking at things a way of
1:48:20 practicing things empty in the cup
1:48:22 researching studies loving knowledge and
1:48:24 being formas being formless not being
1:48:28 rigid and stuck to one way or to one
1:48:30 path that's one person but to one place
1:48:32 these are some of the guiding principles
1:48:34 some of the guiding values on my
1:48:36 disciple and I'm very proud and I'm very
1:48:39 happy and very grateful that a lost
1:48:42 father inspired me to share some of
1:48:44 these things with the Muslims and
1:48:46 non-muslims as well
1:48:48 - Andrew Zirkin welcome for coming when
1:48:50 there's nothing well yeah I do then I'll
1:48:54 keep confirmed may Allah educate all of
1:48:56 us guide us to the straight path
1:48:58 I'm a long guy that's about that which
1:49:00 to people different we all want to stand
1:49:02 in front of him on the day of judgement
1:49:04 and he's gonna be the only judge the
1:49:06 only team and we're gonna we saw this
1:49:11 was the seventh episode of the m8
1:49:13 podcast that will head on to you for
1:49:15 listening to all of it was