The Way of Abraham: Q & A Livestream (2021-07-19) ​

0:00:15 and friends
0:00:18 may allah bless every single one of you
0:00:21 i pray to allah to allah that you're all
0:00:23 experiencing
0:00:24 an amazing spiritual day a day of arafah
0:00:28 it's a very it's the best day of the
0:00:30 year
0:00:31 and i pray to allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala
0:00:33 is full of good deeds
0:00:35 and it's full of getting closer to allah
0:00:37 subhanahu wa ta'ala
0:00:39 and you are with myself hamza though
0:00:42 this
0:00:43 and our beloved brother yusuf ponders
0:00:46 alhamdulillah
0:00:47 and this is the sapience institute live
0:00:50 the way of abraham
0:00:53 and the way of abraham essentially
0:00:54 brothers and sisters
0:00:56 is calling out to humanity
0:01:00 inviting humanity to the sub of allah
0:01:03 subhanahu wa ta'ala
0:01:08 to the way of allah and what is this
0:01:11 the sibil is to affirm and to
0:01:14 internalize
0:01:15 and to actualize that there is no deity
0:01:19 worthy of worship except allah that is
0:01:22 the sabbath
0:01:23 and what does worship really mean it
0:01:25 means to know
0:01:26 allah to love allah
0:01:29 to obey allah and that includes being
0:01:32 humble before him
0:01:34 and submitting to him and having
0:01:35 positive fear of him
0:01:37 and significantly it includes to single
0:01:40 out
0:01:40 and to direct all acts of worship to
0:01:43 allah alone
0:01:45 and the main objectives of this
0:01:47 lifestream
0:01:48 is to invoke that inside you
0:01:52 to understand that there is no deity
0:01:54 worthy or worship except allah
0:01:56 and that we must call people to this
0:01:59 perennial truth to this timeless truth
0:02:02 because brothers and sisters this life
0:02:04 is short
0:02:05 we may live 30 years 40 years
0:02:09 60 years 70 years allah knows
0:02:12 and the is eternal
0:02:15 the akhira is forever and we
0:02:19 have been placed here as human beings
0:02:21 with a purpose in life
0:02:23 with meaning in life with an ultimate
0:02:25 purpose and an ultimate meaning
0:02:27 we're not just a rearrangement of carbon
0:02:30 we're not just
0:02:31 blind cold non-rational electrons that's
0:02:34 whizzing around in a random way
0:02:36 but rather there is a profound meaning
0:02:39 for our existence
0:02:40 and a profound purpose for existence
0:02:43 which is that we're here to wish paulo
0:02:46 and do not be deluded and do not be
0:02:48 duped by those who say that there is no
0:02:50 ultimate meaning and purpose in life and
0:02:51 then they decide
0:02:53 to create a purpose in their life so
0:02:55 they say there is no purpose of life but
0:02:57 there is purpose
0:02:58 in life but we have to make them
0:03:00 understand that there is a connection
0:03:02 between a purpose
0:03:03 in life and the purpose of your life and
0:03:06 if you
0:03:06 believe that your ultimate existence is
0:03:08 based on
0:03:09 blind cold and non-rational electrons
0:03:12 rising around and what do we mean by
0:03:13 blind that there is no intentional force
0:03:15 directed
0:03:15 anywhere what do we mean by cold that
0:03:18 they're non-conscious they're not aware
0:03:19 of themselves aware of anything outside
0:03:21 of themselves if they believe in this
0:03:23 don't be duped by this and if they say
0:03:25 that we can now have a purpose in our
0:03:26 existence even though the fundamental
0:03:29 basis for existence is based on this
0:03:30 blind code non-rational
0:03:32 stuff don't buy into that because that
0:03:34 is equivalent
0:03:35 logically of saying let's pretend
0:03:38 to have purpose it is tantamount it is
0:03:41 equivalent it is
0:03:42 logically the same as children playing
0:03:45 in a playground
0:03:46 and basically saying let's pretend to be
0:03:50 the cops and robbers right let's pretend
0:03:53 to be the police
0:03:54 and the thief or doctors and nurses or
0:03:56 mother and father and whatever games
0:03:58 they play today i don't know dinosaurs
0:04:00 and
0:04:00 whatever it is so we have a profound
0:04:03 purpose in our existence
0:04:05 and we are here to acknowledge that
0:04:07 purpose
0:04:08 and the acknowledgment is based on
0:04:11 something called
0:04:12 the fitra we have an innate disposition
0:04:14 the primordial
0:04:16 normative original state of the human
0:04:18 being the primordial
0:04:20 original normative state of the human
0:04:22 being which is the fitrah
0:04:24 and there are two main opinions in our
0:04:26 tradition that the fitra has some
0:04:28 knowledge
0:04:28 that has a form of proton knowledge or
0:04:30 primary knowledge and the other opinion
0:04:32 is that he has no knowledge
0:04:34 but what's similar between these two
0:04:35 opinions is that the fitra from a
0:04:36 metaphorical point of view gets clouded
0:04:39 right it gets clouded and it gets
0:04:41 clouded for different reasons and we
0:04:42 know
0:04:43 this kind of clouding process if you
0:04:44 like occurs because the prophet saw
0:04:48 said in a hadith that every child was
0:04:51 born in this
0:04:52 in this state the state of the
0:04:54 primordial
0:04:55 original normative state of the human
0:04:57 being but his parents and
0:04:59 i'm extrapolating the meaning here his
0:05:02 parents change him and they become
0:05:03 something else so there is a
0:05:04 socialization effect
0:05:05 something happens the future becomes
0:05:07 clouded
0:05:08 and our job is to uncloud the fitrah to
0:05:12 awaken the truth within if you accept
0:05:13 the first opinion
0:05:14 to awaken the truth that's already
0:05:16 within within ourselves if you accept
0:05:18 the other opinion of the fitra
0:05:19 it's to uncloud the fitra to allow the
0:05:21 fifa to direct itself to about the truth
0:05:24 because in this scenario the fifth is
0:05:26 like a vehicle it's like a car
0:05:28 and it's directing itself towards the
0:05:29 truth but if the windscreen is clouded
0:05:32 or misty
0:05:33 it cannot direct itself towards the
0:05:34 truth so our job is to help uncloud the
0:05:36 fitra
0:05:37 to awaken the truth within and this is
0:05:40 what the tao
0:05:40 is about it's about creating awakenings
0:05:42 within people it's about trying to
0:05:44 uncloud people's fitra
0:05:46 to create that awakening or to allow the
0:05:48 fitra to direct itself towards the truth
0:05:51 so the question is how do you uncloud
0:05:53 this fitrah
0:05:54 how do you uncloud this fitrah
0:05:58 the way you uncloud the fitra is by
0:06:00 different approaches and when you look
0:06:02 deep into the quran
0:06:04 and into the sunnah and the way of our
0:06:05 spiritual masters you will see
0:06:07 that the way to uncloud the fitra
0:06:09 differs based on the individual because
0:06:11 the
0:06:11 sunnah of dawa when it comes to
0:06:13 individual interaction
0:06:15 is to contextualize and to individualize
0:06:18 and to see the individual
0:06:20 context of that particular person some
0:06:22 people may require rational arguments
0:06:24 some people may require a combination of
0:06:26 rational arguments
0:06:27 and a spiritual approach some people may
0:06:29 require just
0:06:30 planting seeds getting them to
0:06:32 critically think not really being
0:06:34 forceful depends on their context some
0:06:36 people need direct access to revelation
0:06:38 to quran
0:06:39 to create those awakenings or to uncloud
0:06:41 the fitra the point here is
0:06:43 there are different ways to uncloud the
0:06:45 fifa to awaken the truth within and
0:06:47 these ways
0:06:48 are not ends there are means they are
0:06:50 means to awaken the truth within
0:06:52 they are means to uncloud the fitra to
0:06:54 allow the fitra
0:06:55 to direct itself towards the truth and
0:06:57 this approach this understanding of what
0:06:59 it means to be a human being is very
0:07:01 important
0:07:02 because it moves us away from a dollar
0:07:04 functionalism to dow holism
0:07:07 what's a dowel functionalism a dao of
0:07:09 functionalism is trained the human being
0:07:11 as some kind of abstract ai machine a
0:07:13 computerized machine a functional model
0:07:16 of the mind
0:07:17 because in the philosophy of the mind
0:07:18 you have this approach called
0:07:19 functionalism which really is based on
0:07:21 inputs mental states and outputs they
0:07:24 just put the right input and you're
0:07:25 going to get the output
0:07:26 this is similar to a computer but human
0:07:28 beings are not computers and we're not
0:07:29 going to assume
0:07:30 that there's some kind of rational
0:07:31 algorithm algorithm that we type in and
0:07:34 we're going to expect certain results no
0:07:36 that's a data functionalism and we miss
0:07:38 out a lot in the dow
0:07:39 because we fail to appreciate there are
0:07:41 other ways to uncloud someone's fitrah
0:07:43 but dowaholism is far more holistic
0:07:45 because it appreciates the rational
0:07:47 arguments the feel philosophical
0:07:48 argumentation
0:07:49 but at the same time he appreciates what
0:07:52 the human being is
0:07:53 as per the quran and the son of the
0:07:55 human being is not just
0:07:57 an abstract intellect yes the human
0:07:59 being has an akan but the upper is a
0:08:01 function of the
0:08:02 heart and the heart does it wavers
0:08:05 and the human being also has a roar it
0:08:08 also has a fitra it has enough
0:08:10 ego a psychological disposition and all
0:08:12 of these things are a dynamic interplay
0:08:14 so when you interact with the human
0:08:15 being interact with the human being as
0:08:17 the human being
0:08:18 is not some kind of post-secular
0:08:21 understanding of the human being like
0:08:22 the human being some kind of abstract
0:08:23 robot
0:08:24 with all due respect brothers and
0:08:25 sisters we need to become more
0:08:27 intellectually spiritually mature
0:08:28 to start to understand what the person
0:08:33 means not what they want sometimes
0:08:35 someone may come with an
0:08:36 irrational argument against islam and
0:08:38 you're going to have a debate
0:08:39 when it comes to the da'wah but really
0:08:41 if you have understood the context and
0:08:42 you listen with the intention to
0:08:44 understand
0:08:45 you would realize they need a sprinkling
0:08:47 of rational arguments but the real issue
0:08:49 is
0:08:50 spiritual or the real issue is any
0:08:52 direct revelation or the real issue
0:08:54 is they need a positive interaction with
0:08:56 religious people
0:08:57 whatever the case may be and this makes
0:08:59 sense of the quran
0:09:00 the sunnah western cognitive psychology
0:09:03 this makes sense of the sahaba becoming
0:09:06 muslim
0:09:06 and over a thousand a thousand years of
0:09:09 experience of people becoming muslim
0:09:11 it's not purely through abstract theory
0:09:13 of philosophical argumentation
0:09:14 we need to become more intellectually
0:09:16 spiritually mature and give people what
0:09:17 they
0:09:18 need not what they want and sometimes
0:09:20 what they need is not
0:09:22 the initial thing which is some kind of
0:09:24 rational argument it's usually something
0:09:26 else like
0:09:27 psychosocial or whatever the case may be
0:09:29 yes in many times you have to use
0:09:31 rational arguments for sure and we're
0:09:32 all about that
0:09:33 but we have to stand in the possibility
0:09:35 that the human being is not just a
0:09:37 functional model of the mind but the
0:09:39 human being is far more holistic
0:09:40 there is a color there is an aka there
0:09:42 is enough there is
0:09:44 all of these things are a dynamic
0:09:45 interplay and our job is to try to
0:09:47 awaken the truth within one cloud the
0:09:49 fitrah
0:09:49 to allow the fitter to direct itself
0:09:51 towards the truth
0:09:53 so what we're going to be doing straight
0:09:54 away brothers and sisters is taking your
0:09:56 questions
0:09:56 the next two hours brother and sisters
0:09:58 this is almost unprecedented
0:10:00 for a sapience institute live stream
0:10:02 we're going to be taking your theo
0:10:04 philosophical questions your spiritual
0:10:06 questions
0:10:06 if we don't know the answer we're going
0:10:08 to say we don't know if we do
0:10:10 we're going to answer if we're unsure
0:10:11 we're going to say we aren't sure and
0:10:13 hopefully direct you to the right place
0:10:14 but here is the space to try and develop
0:10:17 you so you become more intellectually
0:10:18 spiritually mature to create awakenings
0:10:20 within yourself and awakenings within
0:10:22 other people insha'allah in this blessed
0:10:23 day of
0:10:24 our brothers and sisters insha allah the
0:10:26 next two hours we're going to have a
0:10:28 transformative
0:10:29 120 minutes inshallah it's going to be
0:10:31 transformative
0:10:32 we're going to invite you on ask your
0:10:34 questions if you're a non-muslim
0:10:35 come on board welcome to the house of
0:10:37 islam the door is open
0:10:39 it's beautiful it's a beautiful home it
0:10:41 smells nice has loving people
0:10:42 come ask questions if you left islam
0:10:45 come back
0:10:46 the doors of allah's mercy are always
0:10:48 open they're only closed when you die
0:10:50 and
0:10:50 if anyone has closed the doors for you
0:10:51 now these people are offering the
0:10:53 islamic tradition the doors are
0:10:55 always open to allah's mercy and
0:10:57 forgiveness if you're someone who's
0:10:58 suffering from shubu heart from
0:11:00 destructive doubts come on board
0:11:02 you know our caravan is not a caravan of
0:11:05 despair
0:11:06 so please brothers and sisters come on
0:11:08 board ask your questions and ask your
0:11:10 questions with the mind
0:11:11 to help yourself and help others so they
0:11:13 could create those awakenings
0:11:14 so they could affirm allah they could
0:11:17 affirm there is no deity
0:11:19 worthy of love worthy of obedience
0:11:22 worthy of
0:11:22 acts of worship other than the only
0:11:24 deity allah subhanahu wa
0:11:26 ta'ala so to proceed brother yusuf let's
0:11:29 start this party masha'allah you get on
0:11:32 a roll bro
0:11:35 inspiring well a blessing so
0:11:38 we should probably as well apologize for
0:11:40 not doing the live stream on
0:11:42 saturday um and sunday we were supposed
0:11:46 to do one on sunday as well
0:11:47 yes we were yes okay that was uh naughty
0:11:51 offers i thought it was just saturday
0:11:52 and then monday
0:11:53 yes
0:11:58 of your one to one we're here now
0:12:02 one into an interaction so yeah you've
0:12:05 got two ways of asking us questions
0:12:07 either
0:12:07 via the chat um or alternatively you can
0:12:12 jump on with this link that i'm going to
0:12:14 post in the chat
0:12:15 one day amsa will give me access to the
0:12:18 youtube admin and then i can post
0:12:20 this i'll pin this link in the chat
0:12:22 which will make things a million times
0:12:24 easier
0:12:25 but for the time being we're just going
0:12:26 to post it there so if you want to jump
0:12:28 on
0:12:29 do click the link or like i said
0:12:31 alternatively just ask your questions
0:12:33 and we'll see what i go on uh let's have
0:12:37 a look
0:12:38 so if someone says that they don't feel
0:12:41 the need
0:12:41 to bother about how the world was
0:12:44 created what's going on with them
0:12:47 that's a local question what's going on
0:12:49 with them
0:12:50 yeah okay so i'll give you my ten pence
0:12:52 you give your tempers inshaallah so
0:12:54 bismillah my dear brother first and
0:12:55 foremost is coming on board
0:12:58 for being brave enough to ask a question
0:12:59 publicly i know many people say that
0:13:01 public appearances are speaking
0:13:03 they they fear that more than death so
0:13:05 by virtue of you asking a question you
0:13:07 have overcome death
0:13:08 to some degree so just right here for
0:13:10 that now so if someone asks
0:13:12 you know they don't feel the need or not
0:13:13 bothered so they have this kind of
0:13:15 nihilistic approach
0:13:16 which yusuf is an expert on but what i
0:13:18 would say from this perspective
0:13:20 you have to first and foremost
0:13:21 understand the caveat the
0:13:23 sunnah of dao with individuals to
0:13:25 understand the context so i don't really
0:13:26 know the person i don't know where
0:13:27 they're from their name their background
0:13:29 whatever the case may be
0:13:30 so my answer is going to be an
0:13:31 abstraction but usually with someone
0:13:33 like this
0:13:34 you have to create that need and the way
0:13:36 to create that need is not one with
0:13:38 thought experiments
0:13:39 or actually getting them to stand in the
0:13:41 possibility that not being bothered
0:13:43 about their existence not being
0:13:44 bothered about their life can have
0:13:46 severe consequences
0:13:48 and this is where the quranic dawah
0:13:49 comes in when you talk about janna and
0:13:51 jahannam
0:13:52 right you told them well you are you can
0:13:54 be eligible for paradise eternal bliss
0:13:56 or you could be eligible for
0:13:58 your own self-domination because the
0:13:59 kind of concept of hell and the islamic
0:14:01 tradition is that you threw yourself
0:14:03 into hell because allah subhanahu wa
0:14:05 says in the quran that he doesn't prefer
0:14:06 disbelief for his servants
0:14:08 what do they say the classical say that
0:14:11 allah doesn't want people to go to hell
0:14:12 we close the door to allah's guidance
0:14:14 and mercy when it was already open but
0:14:16 we closed it
0:14:17 and when the only door that's opened is
0:14:19 the door of hell and we've thrown
0:14:20 ourselves that's why allah says
0:14:22 allah did not wrong them they wronged
0:14:24 themselves so it's very important to
0:14:26 understand that it's not how can a
0:14:27 loving lord send you to hell
0:14:28 the right question is how can we choose
0:14:31 hell
0:14:31 over a loving lord so you have to show
0:14:34 them that this is
0:14:35 maybe the eligible for this and that
0:14:36 could create an awakening and say you
0:14:37 know what i need to take this a bit
0:14:38 seriously because the consequences
0:14:40 are eternal that's the first point the
0:14:42 second point is give them a thought
0:14:43 experiment say
0:14:44 well isn't this equivalent of you being
0:14:46 sedated then
0:14:47 thrown onto a plane and you wake up on
0:14:50 the plane you're in first class
0:14:52 and you have an amazing luxurious
0:14:54 comfortable experience a flatbed
0:14:56 that's designed to make you feel
0:14:58 comfortable you have food on tap
0:14:59 entertainment on tap
0:15:01 niches on tab music on top games on tap
0:15:03 movies on tap you have sunset sunrise
0:15:06 you have
0:15:07 you have snow top mountains you have the
0:15:08 words like wow this is paradisial
0:15:11 but then after are you gonna be in that
0:15:13 state surely you know after five minutes
0:15:15 you're gonna say hold on a second
0:15:17 how did i get here where did i come from
0:15:20 where is the plane headed to what am i
0:15:23 supposed to do
0:15:24 i don't even have my passport right so
0:15:27 it's very important brothers and sisters
0:15:28 to give these type of full experiments
0:15:30 and give the kind of the psycho
0:15:31 spiritual emotive
0:15:33 motivational right kind of quranic
0:15:36 paradigms that janna and jahannam to get
0:15:39 to think seriously about this matter
0:15:41 if you combine those two a thought
0:15:42 experiment that is real for them
0:15:45 and you combine the eligibility for
0:15:47 eternal bliss or the eligibility for
0:15:49 them
0:15:50 closing your door to god's mercy and
0:15:52 guidance that should do the trick
0:15:54 inshallah but you should do it within
0:15:56 the context of hikmah
0:15:57 within the context of wisdom you should
0:15:59 do in the context of rahmah
0:16:00 you should do in the context of being
0:16:02 merciful because remember when you're
0:16:03 engaged in the dawah or in anything in
0:16:06 life
0:16:06 you have to be committed to the goodness
0:16:08 and guidance of all people
0:16:09 we know this from the hadith of the
0:16:11 prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam as
0:16:13 narrated by bukhari
0:16:17 and it's different from the hadith is
0:16:19 very similar but it's different it says
0:16:20 the love for
0:16:21 limnest love for humanity with love for
0:16:23 yourself and the hadith the 13th hadith
0:16:30 you won't truly believe unless you love
0:16:31 for your brother you love yourself this
0:16:33 also includes
0:16:34 brother in humanity and that's right and
0:16:36 now we said this includes insenia human
0:16:38 beings
0:16:39 and we also have to understand that it's
0:16:41 not only and now he said this with the
0:16:43 maliki scholar
0:16:45 he said something similar so we have to
0:16:46 be committed to the goodness and
0:16:48 guidance of more people use themselves
0:16:50 if we got some of those lights like
0:16:52 special lights or something we're
0:16:54 getting some decent light in there and
0:16:55 muscle are you getting some uh serious
0:16:57 energy well it's been an
0:16:59 easy day so i'm in that state so i'm
0:17:01 trying to keep that stage
0:17:03 keep it going keep it going uh yeah so
0:17:04 my two pence's um
0:17:06 is really the question if someone says
0:17:07 that they don't feel the need to bother
0:17:09 about how the world was created what's
0:17:11 going on with them
0:17:12 yes sir what it is is i think there's
0:17:15 obviously a certain state where you sort
0:17:17 of engrossed in the immediate
0:17:19 and it's i don't mean to say this in
0:17:21 like a
0:17:22 a negative sense because obviously it's
0:17:24 not negative um necessarily
0:17:26 but it's quite childlike you're only
0:17:29 sort of aware of
0:17:30 the now um it's very present funnily
0:17:33 enough there's a lot of books now trying
0:17:35 to get you to be
0:17:36 solely pinned in the present um
0:17:39 but there's a certain sort of
0:17:41 transcendence
0:17:42 that's at play that gets you to think
0:17:44 about the bigger questions and that
0:17:45 includes
0:17:46 well you know where did all of this come
0:17:47 from that requires you to sort of leave
0:17:50 the present moment a little bit to flow
0:17:52 above it to observe it and think about
0:17:54 it holistically
0:17:56 um that usually just comes with maturity
0:17:59 um and with becoming sort of you know
0:18:02 disenfranchised with the the glitz and
0:18:05 the glamour of the dunya
0:18:06 so to speak and some people they go
0:18:08 through this um
0:18:10 you know in different ways uh so
0:18:13 some people it takes a different amount
0:18:14 of time for them to really
0:18:18 take that point of transcendence leave
0:18:20 that immediate moment
0:18:22 um sometimes i think it's mostly
0:18:26 um i don't know something bad happens or
0:18:28 some sort of trauma someone passes away
0:18:30 then these that sort of things start to
0:18:33 crop up
0:18:33 for some people it takes them a while
0:18:35 before someone passes away in the family
0:18:36 i've got friends who
0:18:37 still haven't lost anybody and they're
0:18:39 like 20 odd years old
0:18:40 um which is a panelizer sort of
0:18:42 testament to the modern day
0:18:43 but yeah it's a i think that's probably
0:18:45 the main reason um they're just sort of
0:18:47 engrossed
0:18:48 they're still in somewhat childlike
0:18:50 state um of naivety and things like that
0:18:52 and
0:18:52 it's a process of just sort of getting
0:18:54 there being patient with them um
0:18:56 and in time inshallah they'll start to
0:18:58 sort of transcend so to speak
0:19:00 um so mashallah we've got
0:19:03 uh we will ask answer people's questions
0:19:06 as much as possible
0:19:13 how are you doing very good very good
0:19:15 excited to have both the heavy hitters
0:19:17 on to ask you some questions
0:19:19 no no no it's all not well man bless you
0:19:21 to zach for
0:19:22 coming on board and may allah bless you
0:19:24 and you know you recently had your own
0:19:26 spiritual journey and may allah increase
0:19:27 you
0:19:28 and preserve your mind and you further
0:19:30 and further inshallah
0:19:33 so i had a question for you i wanna i
0:19:36 know it might be a tense topic
0:19:37 but i really want to know the the truth
0:19:40 about this concept of gira which is
0:19:43 protective jealousy where some people
0:19:46 say
0:19:46 a woman can't have a job she can't uh
0:19:50 be a teacher and have a you know
0:19:52 students of male and female
0:19:54 she can't go outside without somebody
0:19:58 she only has to stay inside and she
0:20:01 can't have like
0:20:02 any volition to have like education or
0:20:05 school
0:20:06 and that if she does it's an insult to
0:20:08 the man's honor
0:20:10 and that she has to submit in that way
0:20:13 otherwise she is not
0:20:15 honoring her husband's uh honor
0:20:19 and even if it's against her mental
0:20:21 health she still has to do it
0:20:23 this is something that i've been coming
0:20:25 across with some
0:20:26 people and i don't know the truth about
0:20:28 it i think there's a balance in today's
0:20:30 age and
0:20:31 you know if you're living in a very
0:20:33 dangerous area in california
0:20:35 and you can have like two days at a job
0:20:38 as like a cashier or something to help
0:20:40 get out of the ghetto i think that's
0:20:42 much smarter than you know
0:20:44 staying in a place where there's a lot
0:20:46 of gun violence or something
0:20:48 there's like a there must be some sort
0:20:49 of balance here
0:20:51 you know like if you can't stay home and
0:20:53 you you that's safe
0:20:54 but in today's economy people lose their
0:20:57 jobs
0:20:58 poverty is around i don't know i feel
0:21:00 like there's got to be some type of
0:21:02 middle
0:21:03 way or like different approach about it
0:21:05 because it seems that a lot of suitors
0:21:07 and a lot of people
0:21:09 they've been saying stuff like that like
0:21:11 they don't want the women to have any
0:21:12 social media
0:21:13 she cannot even have her voice sometimes
0:21:16 she cannot
0:21:17 have a job she can't go to school she
0:21:19 has to literally just stay inside
0:21:21 all day unless she's with somebody and i
0:21:25 understand maybe that works in some
0:21:26 areas but
0:21:27 what if you have to go somewhere i mean
0:21:29 i'm starting to wonder which is islam
0:21:31 and which is culture and personal
0:21:33 preference
0:21:34 you see i hope i made that clear yes
0:21:37 sister sister
0:21:38 one thing we have to make
0:21:41 put it on so there's no echoes yeah so
0:21:43 what you have to make very clear sister
0:21:45 is
0:21:46 that our kind of policy sequence
0:21:48 institute that we don't really going to
0:21:50 fit matters okay
0:21:51 so that's very important so this
0:21:53 question has to go to someone who's
0:21:55 qualified and someone that you trust
0:21:56 okay however notwithstanding is very
0:21:59 important to note a few things
0:22:01 uh which is like a positive jealousy for
0:22:04 your spouse which goes both ways by the
0:22:06 way it's not just the male to the
0:22:07 females the female to the man
0:22:08 is like a protective type of jealousy
0:22:10 and this is highly
0:22:12 a high ethic in the islamic tradition
0:22:14 however as a general principle it should
0:22:16 not be used to oppress anyone
0:22:18 it should not be used to make anyone
0:22:20 feel that their well-being has been
0:22:22 diminished
0:22:23 that their self-esteem is diminished
0:22:25 that they have a lack of psychological
0:22:27 well-being mental
0:22:28 well-being and physical well-being and
0:22:29 even social well-being and that
0:22:31 difference
0:22:32 differs from society to society because
0:22:34 there is a concept in thick
0:22:37 called the social customs now what
0:22:39 you're describing
0:22:40 if someone is preventing you from
0:22:41 breathing preventing you from education
0:22:43 and preventing from one of these things
0:22:45 then that sounds like oppression rather
0:22:47 than a gear because we have to
0:22:48 understand this from a
0:22:49 kind of pure spiritual perspective if
0:22:52 one doesn't have an ego
0:22:53 they don't have for example this the
0:22:55 diseases of the heart like
0:22:57 hassa jealousy blame worthy jealousy
0:23:00 kibber and arrogance
0:23:02 if they don't have these things then
0:23:03 rira positive jealousy
0:23:05 wanted to take care of their spouse
0:23:07 making sure their spouse is fine
0:23:09 making sure the spouse is basically
0:23:11 within the boundaries of the
0:23:13 haram what allah loves to go towards
0:23:15 that what allah hates to move away from
0:23:17 that
0:23:18 that's going to be very positive and
0:23:19 it's going to create well-being for each
0:23:21 other
0:23:21 and the house and society but if it ends
0:23:24 up if someone has for example an eagle
0:23:26 and they're just using the concept of
0:23:27 viera as a veil
0:23:29 just to oppress someone just to prevent
0:23:31 them from breathing and living and
0:23:33 living a life that is conducive to
0:23:35 coming closer to allah then this is
0:23:37 oppression
0:23:38 and and allah forbids oppression from
0:23:40 that perspective
0:23:42 so that those are the principles i
0:23:44 wanted to give you so you don't feel a
0:23:45 bit disheartened that we're not giving
0:23:46 you an answer
0:23:47 so no one should use hira as a means to
0:23:50 oppress anyone and that obviously
0:23:51 means the kind of islamic definition of
0:23:53 oppression but at the same time the kind
0:23:55 of specific
0:23:56 answers please go to a scholar that you
0:23:58 trust
0:23:59 please go to a scholar that understands
0:24:02 as well because this is very important
0:24:05 when it comes to thick
0:24:06 obviously people use off they use custom
0:24:08 as an excuse to do what they want we're
0:24:10 not talking about that we're talking
0:24:11 about the valid principle
0:24:12 that it fit the principle of growth of
0:24:14 off of social customs
0:24:16 go to someone who's learned mainstream
0:24:19 and
0:24:19 i'm telling you they're going to give
0:24:20 you an answer that's going to liberate
0:24:22 you it's going to liberate the household
0:24:23 and liberate society
0:24:25 and it will be nowhere near oppression
0:24:28 and nowhere near what you've just
0:24:30 described in sha allah but here as a
0:24:32 concept is a very important
0:24:33 to have in actual fact many of our men
0:24:36 unfortunately do not have
0:24:37 hira which is an unfortunate situation
0:24:39 you know you know
0:24:41 for example they'll take selfies with
0:24:43 their wife put on instagram all the time
0:24:45 make sure her wife's got all the makeup
0:24:46 on
0:24:47 does the pal put on instagram with all
0:24:49 due respect
0:24:50 i don't find these people they don't
0:24:52 have any hero
0:24:53 and this is not part of the islamic
0:24:55 ethic
0:24:56 uh and this is just a very simple thing
0:24:58 and if people don't like it
0:25:00 then tough uh that's so that's positive
0:25:03 you know and even for the man if the man
0:25:05 has for example
0:25:06 big guns and his wife says you know i
0:25:08 don't want i don't want you showing your
0:25:09 biceps in public
0:25:10 it's for me man you know this is beyond
0:25:13 the kind of
0:25:16 the black and white haram this is about
0:25:18 appreciating your wife
0:25:19 appreciating her needs and you should be
0:25:22 as a husband you know what
0:25:23 i won't wear short sleeve or i'll wear
0:25:25 clothes that
0:25:26 you you you that you like this is
0:25:28 something to do with a loving
0:25:29 relationship that you have based on
0:25:31 love mercy and tolerance and so on and
0:25:34 so forth
0:25:34 so the point i'm trying to say is a very
0:25:36 important concept in our tradition
0:25:38 uh please go to a scholar though based
0:25:40 on the nuances and i'm telling you he's
0:25:42 going to give you an answer in sha allah
0:25:43 that's going to be far away from
0:25:45 oppression and he's going to make you
0:25:46 understand the concept
0:25:47 in a better way than i have expressed
0:25:49 and in a way that's going to be
0:25:50 liberating for your household
0:25:52 and it's going to bring you all closer
0:25:53 to allah and it's all going to achieve
0:25:56 a sense of well-being for all of you but
0:25:58 never allow anyone to use this concept
0:26:00 just as a manifestation of the
0:26:01 possessiveness and manifestation of the
0:26:04 ego
0:26:04 because this is a big spiritual disease
0:26:06 and sometimes people
0:26:08 use these ethics in islam this is an
0:26:10 excuse
0:26:11 to oppress other people and this is a
0:26:13 sign of weakness this is not a sign of a
0:26:15 man
0:26:16 so i hope that is clarified the sister
0:26:18 but in terms of specific thick
0:26:20 questions this is beyond us we have to
0:26:22 stick to the field philosophical
0:26:24 stuff okay if i could just add by
0:26:27 um sorry you saw me did you want to say
0:26:29 something
0:26:30 oh so i had another question if if
0:26:32 that's okay
0:26:34 do you mind if i just add to what you
0:26:36 said before we move on oh totally yeah
0:26:38 so i i would recommend um reading into
0:26:40 two of the wives of the prophet muhammad
0:26:42 um first one being aisha and
0:26:45 um how do you say her name
0:26:53 um both of these sisters were very
0:26:55 empowered um
0:26:58 was uh very vocal she wasn't this
0:27:01 sheepish
0:27:02 shy person um she spoke her mind um
0:27:05 you know she was active she was one of
0:27:07 the largest scholars in
0:27:09 islam the majority of the hadith we get
0:27:11 are from her
0:27:12 um so like even from the you know the
0:27:15 very beginning we have this idea of um
0:27:18 you know intellectual pursuits
0:27:20 within the the sisters of islam or the
0:27:22 the women of islam
0:27:23 and khadijah was a businesswoman and
0:27:27 the the way they um the prophet muhammad
0:27:30 um became familiar with each other was
0:27:32 through business
0:27:34 she would send him um on expeditions
0:27:37 uh to do business elsewhere outside of
0:27:39 um
0:27:40 the you know the where they were in
0:27:42 medina and mecca et cetera so
0:27:45 this notion that there's sort of like
0:27:47 they're hidden away in a cupboard almost
0:27:49 you know this caricature
0:27:51 of is islamic wives um i think is is far
0:27:54 from the truth and just looking into
0:27:56 these two particular
0:27:57 characters the two wives of the prophet
0:27:59 muhammad sallam
0:28:00 i think should sort of elucidate a lot
0:28:02 of the
0:28:03 um the the image that we we have of the
0:28:06 you know the the early women in uh islam
0:28:09 inshallah but um i hope that helps
0:28:11 anyway and uh
0:28:14 as general principles these are very
0:28:16 sound principles exactly yusuf but if
0:28:18 there's a specific
0:28:19 concept where one husband says something
0:28:21 to another wife and there was a
0:28:22 discussion this is beyond us
0:28:24 and that requires basically scholarship
0:28:26 insha allah but as a general principle
0:28:27 we said
0:28:28 that islam prevents oppression that
0:28:30 there is a concept of here by some
0:28:31 positive concept and it increases the
0:28:33 spiritual and social well-being
0:28:35 well-being of both people
0:28:36 and of the famine of the household and
0:28:38 yes if you look at the lives of the
0:28:39 wives of the prophet sallallahu alaihi
0:28:41 wasallam you know you had aisha who was
0:28:44 very strong and assertive
0:28:45 especially in articulating herself yeah
0:28:47 khadijah rajala
0:28:49 was a businesswoman and so on and so
0:28:50 forth i remember all of that was done
0:28:52 within the context of the islamic values
0:28:54 as well
0:28:54 so uh and this is very good that you
0:28:57 raise this question just to let everyone
0:28:58 know that we're not going to answer
0:28:59 specific freaky questions
0:29:01 but please uh please give us your other
0:29:03 question inshallah
0:29:05 okay so i've noticed there is a i don't
0:29:08 know if you're familiar with it but it's
0:29:09 called a red pill movement where these
0:29:11 young brothers are telling younger
0:29:12 brothers that
0:29:14 divorced women and you know reaver
0:29:16 sisters who are not virgins are like
0:29:19 toxic trash
0:29:20 and they're really teaching the young
0:29:22 men to not ever
0:29:24 marry a single mother to stay away from
0:29:26 divorced women
0:29:28 and they're really being quite vulgar
0:29:30 towards you know
0:29:31 the younger men and how they're trying
0:29:33 to find wives
0:29:34 and since polygamy you know polygyny is
0:29:37 allowed
0:29:38 this would that system of polygony is
0:29:41 beneficial towards women who
0:29:43 have had a brutal divorce and stuff like
0:29:45 that so what would you say to
0:29:47 like those young brothers who are trying
0:29:48 to really brainwash
0:29:50 these young brothers into hating uh
0:29:53 women because
0:29:54 they're western women who are not
0:29:56 virgins and
0:29:58 who are divorcees or single mothers and
0:30:01 stuff like that what would you say to
0:30:02 that
0:30:03 yes so i'm not aware of this
0:30:06 and uh but again this is
0:30:10 in the realm of the issue but it's to do
0:30:12 with islamic values and ethics which we
0:30:13 do talk about
0:30:14 the first thing to say is these men are
0:30:16 little boys
0:30:17 very weak individuals who have no
0:30:19 spirituality and have no connection with
0:30:21 islam or allah
0:30:23 because if you really take the logical
0:30:25 consequence of what they said
0:30:26 they are actually saying that the
0:30:28 prophet sallallahu
0:30:29 alaihi wasallam was not a real man may
0:30:31 allah protect us from such stupidity
0:30:33 because the prophet sallallahu alaihi
0:30:35 was married were
0:30:37 women who were basically not virgins the
0:30:40 prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
0:30:42 married women who had uh previous
0:30:44 husbands and so on and so forth so to
0:30:46 even make such a ridiculous claim
0:30:49 is counter to the life of the prophet
0:30:51 sallallahu alaihi wasallam
0:30:52 is absolutely ridiculous yes we have our
0:30:55 ethical tradition
0:30:56 and there's virtues for marrying this
0:30:58 type of woman or that type of woman or
0:31:00 this type of man and that type of man
0:31:02 but the biggest virtue as a general
0:31:04 principle is someone who is pious
0:31:06 someone who is close to allah and the
0:31:09 reward
0:31:10 for marrying a divorcee who has children
0:31:13 or a widow is absolutely phenomenal and
0:31:16 if they only knew that reward they
0:31:17 wouldn't even utter such
0:31:19 nonsense so from that perspective say if
0:31:21 there is a movement where you wherever
0:31:22 you're from
0:31:23 in america that these guys are saying
0:31:25 such stuff these people actually they
0:31:27 need a
0:31:28 social intellectual spiritual slap
0:31:34 these guys are pathetic they have
0:31:36 probably a sense of arrogance they have
0:31:38 the psychosocial issues they're using
0:31:40 the dean as some form of gang
0:31:43 and this is a trend that you see
0:31:45 throughout societies
0:31:46 and these people should be shunned
0:31:48 shouldn't be taken seriously
0:31:50 and they should basically maybe they
0:31:51 should take some pills because they're
0:31:53 not mentally
0:31:53 not mentally well because what they're
0:31:55 saying is against the son of the prophet
0:31:57 sallallahu alaihi he will stand up to
0:31:59 talk about women in this
0:32:00 way and to to to to judge women this way
0:32:03 is
0:32:03 absolutely ridiculous in actual fact in
0:32:05 actual fact
0:32:06 if they study islam if a woman has had a
0:32:09 past
0:32:09 and she was a non-muslim she became a
0:32:11 muslim he has no right to know anything
0:32:13 about her past
0:32:14 zero in actual fact even if it was a
0:32:17 woman who was muslim and had a past
0:32:18 and she repented none of his business
0:32:21 none of his business
0:32:23 the one who repents right is like the
0:32:25 one who hasn't sinned yeah
0:32:27 these people are sick possessive
0:32:30 individuals
0:32:31 and already if they come across that way
0:32:33 it's a sign that they know
0:32:34 they should never be married you should
0:32:35 never marry those types of people in
0:32:37 actual fact
0:32:38 they need spiritual rehabilitation and
0:32:40 inshallah there's hope for them as well
0:32:42 we're not judging them may allah allow
0:32:45 them to enter through the door of his
0:32:46 mercy and his guidance
0:32:49 and to actually i am a bit more familiar
0:32:51 with the rental movement
0:32:53 um mainly through my studies in nihilism
0:32:56 funnily enough
0:32:57 um they seem to sort of be quite
0:32:59 characterized by this sort of
0:33:01 overwhelming force um but yeah so i
0:33:04 think
0:33:05 it's like what the hamza was just saying
0:33:06 then um i'm pretty sure the majority of
0:33:09 the wives that the prophet muhammad
0:33:10 sallallahu salaam
0:33:12 were not virgins so they were previously
0:33:14 married or they were widowed
0:33:16 um and he he took them and they
0:33:19 um he married them and the quran says
0:33:22 chapter 4 verse 19 and live them live
0:33:25 with them with kindness
0:33:27 or in kindness that is to you know treat
0:33:29 them well to
0:33:30 not this sort of um brutish mentality
0:33:34 that these particular individuals put
0:33:35 forward where
0:33:36 they they turn the um the male female
0:33:39 relationship into a battle
0:33:41 almost absolutely yes um so what's a
0:33:44 really good story
0:33:45 is one day when aisha raj there was some
0:33:48 food
0:33:49 being served and i believe she was
0:33:51 slightly jealous
0:33:53 and i think she was either broke a play
0:33:55 or something happened that wasn't you
0:33:56 know very nice
0:33:58 and the way the person responded he was
0:33:59 like oh your mother is jealous or the
0:34:01 way he responded very human nice way
0:34:03 he didn't you know was egocentric and
0:34:06 egotistical to say how dare you do this
0:34:08 in front of them or whatever the case
0:34:09 may be look if people follow the sunnah
0:34:12 they would have the best marriages
0:34:14 and what is the sunnah is to have help
0:34:16 is to have forbearance
0:34:17 to overlook faults is to look at your
0:34:19 thoughts first you know the way of the
0:34:20 salaf the way of the pious predecessors
0:34:23 when they had issues with the
0:34:26 with the women folk with their family
0:34:29 the first thing they would look at you
0:34:30 know they would look at
0:34:32 themselves they'll look at themselves
0:34:34 what sin did i commit
0:34:37 how have i moved away from allah for
0:34:39 this to happen at home
0:34:41 because it's a very empowering
0:34:43 philosophy the pious princes the salaf
0:34:46 the true salaf the true spiritual
0:34:48 masters of this ummah
0:34:49 when they had these issues they would
0:34:51 look into themselves they wouldn't blame
0:34:52 a woman or blame anyone else the first
0:34:54 thing they would do is look within
0:34:56 within what i done where's my ego
0:34:59 where's my problems where's my
0:35:02 connection with the quran where's my
0:35:03 connection
0:35:04 and wallahi brothers and sisters
0:35:07 i see this in my own life yeah in my own
0:35:14 life
0:35:16 when people move away from allah you're
0:35:18 gonna have problems
0:35:19 and then the ego is gonna teach you to
0:35:21 blame others
0:35:22 but i'm telling you the first thing the
0:35:24 first person you to blame
0:35:25 is yourself first find out yourself
0:35:28 because once you fix your connection
0:35:29 with allah
0:35:31 everything else falls into place so this
0:35:34 kind of
0:35:35 default position that someone else is to
0:35:37 blame or someone else is like this
0:35:39 this is not in line with the ethics with
0:35:42 the essence of islam
0:35:43 and not in line with the son of the
0:35:44 prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam and
0:35:46 with respect this is a massive disease
0:35:49 of the kind of our men in our ummah not
0:35:52 knowing what it means to be a real man
0:35:54 right people think being a real man is
0:35:56 benching 170 kilos
0:35:58 right you can't even press your ego and
0:36:01 you're telling me that you're a man
0:36:03 because you've gone to the gym you can't
0:36:05 branch piss your you bench press your
0:36:07 ego
0:36:08 you can't forgive others for the sake of
0:36:09 allah
0:36:13 you can't do that stuff and now you're
0:36:15 talking to me about what it means to be
0:36:17 a man
0:36:18 and false notions of hira and false
0:36:20 notions of this
0:36:21 and the other than being possessive this
0:36:23 is a spiritual issue
0:36:24 and this is why brothers and sisters as
0:36:26 a as a lesson for everybody especially
0:36:28 when we talk about the way of abraham
0:36:30 because when we talk about dawah and
0:36:32 give people dawah we need to know who we
0:36:34 are in the dao who am i in the tower
0:36:38 we always think about the others are the
0:36:39 kuffar the atheists the liberals this
0:36:42 who are you who are you in the tower
0:36:45 because it's through you through your
0:36:48 actions and through your state of being
0:36:49 and how you relate to others that's
0:36:51 going to create transformations in other
0:36:52 people
0:36:53 you can't control other people but you
0:36:54 know what you can control yourself
0:36:56 so who are you in the tower and all of
0:36:59 these things whether it's to do with
0:37:00 family whether it's to do with dawah
0:37:02 stems from what the heart
0:37:06 and we know the four main spiritual
0:37:07 diseases of the heart are what
0:37:09 self-amazement hassa the blameworthy
0:37:12 jealousy
0:37:14 arrogance ostentation these
0:37:17 four major spiritual diseases are that
0:37:20 which give rise to all the other
0:37:21 spiritual diseases and it affects the
0:37:23 way we relate we don't have this kind of
0:37:26 christian notion of faith that's just in
0:37:28 the heart it affects what you say
0:37:30 it affects what's in your heart it
0:37:32 affects how you relate to yourself how
0:37:34 you relate to others and how you relate
0:37:35 to all those panels
0:37:36 it affects your actions and it stems
0:37:39 from your state of being your state of
0:37:41 heart
0:37:41 and if you have hasad and ego and kibber
0:37:44 and all of these things it's going to
0:37:46 affect your relationships
0:37:47 it's going to affect everything i'll
0:37:48 tell you something sister and brothers
0:37:50 and sisters who listen to this
0:37:52 you can nearly find any excuse for your
0:37:54 actions in islam
0:37:56 if you're smart you could do some
0:37:58 linguistic
0:37:59 spiritual gymnastics and this is why
0:38:01 it's so important to understand who the
0:38:03 person is how does that person relate to
0:38:05 other people
0:38:06 what is spirituality like what's his ego
0:38:08 like how does he respond to fitna
0:38:11 how does he respond to when his ego is
0:38:13 challenged how does he respond to
0:38:14 calamity and chaos and
0:38:16 tribulations does he come closer to
0:38:18 allah or run away from allah
0:38:20 if he runs away from allah in those
0:38:21 situation then that is very revealing
0:38:23 because the fitna
0:38:24 the root word when you boil the metal it
0:38:26 removes its kind of impurities right
0:38:29 let's see what happens does fitness
0:38:31 remove the impurities and they come
0:38:33 closer to allah or does it make it
0:38:35 make them more impure and this is why we
0:38:37 have to revive
0:38:38 in our tower brothers and sisters this
0:38:41 concept of
0:38:42 who are you in the dawah in our advanced
0:38:44 our training course we have a long
0:38:45 section called the characteristics of
0:38:47 the duat
0:38:48 and this includes removing away from
0:38:51 useless argumentation and debate which
0:38:52 is based on the hadith
0:38:54 it talks about which is a beautiful
0:38:57 verse in the quran
0:38:58 in surah 34 when allah says good and
0:39:01 evil are not the same repelled by that
0:39:02 which is better
0:39:03 and between two people that was hatred
0:39:04 it would turn to intimate friendship
0:39:06 repel by that which is better
0:39:07 right and people think you know being
0:39:09 aggressive is is the best thing to do no
0:39:11 being aggressive is easy
0:39:13 holding your ego is the hardest thing to
0:39:14 do yeah talk to any human being or
0:39:17 especially
0:39:17 those who consider themselves alpha
0:39:19 males right the easiest thing to do to
0:39:21 be aggressive that's the easy default
0:39:23 that is easy but holding it down
0:39:26 responding
0:39:27 in a way that is better that is more
0:39:28 virtuous is more beautiful
0:39:30 that's that's the thing that we should
0:39:32 do in the darwin this is part of the tao
0:39:33 itself
0:39:34 in actual fact it was a key
0:39:35 characteristic of the prophet sallallahu
0:39:37 alaihi wasallam
0:39:38 when the jewish man came to protest and
0:39:39 pulled him by the neck and i believe
0:39:41 left the mark
0:39:42 right and one of the sahada wanted to
0:39:43 get aggressive and the person responded
0:39:45 with beauty and virtue
0:39:47 and this jewish man became a muslim
0:39:49 because it was one of the key signs he
0:39:50 was waiting for because he saw two out
0:39:52 of the three signs
0:39:53 and the final sign was in forbearance
0:39:55 repelling
0:39:56 by that which is better and you know
0:39:58 what's really interesting this is all
0:40:00 about dawah this was verse 34 in sort of
0:40:03 go to verse 33. go to the verse before
0:40:05 what does allah say
0:40:07 who is better in speech than the one who
0:40:09 calls to allah
0:40:11 does righteous deeds and says i am one
0:40:12 of the muslims allahu akbar
0:40:14 the holistic vision for the dawah you
0:40:16 call to allah you are a righteous person
0:40:19 and you say i am one of those who submit
0:40:21 and the verse after that
0:40:22 gives you the way of being that you must
0:40:25 be concerning the tao what does allah
0:40:27 say
0:40:27 good and evil are not the same repel by
0:40:30 that which is better
0:40:31 and the arabic word for repel here is
0:40:33 not followed by a direct object it
0:40:35 doesn't say repel evil it says repel
0:40:37 by that which is better and the really
0:40:39 say repelling about that which is better
0:40:41 is what is more virtuous is what is more
0:40:42 beautiful
0:40:43 and yes what is more virtuous and what
0:40:45 is more beautiful has its own context
0:40:47 sometimes you have to be assertive
0:40:48 sometimes you have to be soft but the
0:40:50 default position in the dial and i
0:40:52 challenge anybody on this planet
0:40:54 the default position in the dawah is to
0:40:56 be forbearing
0:40:57 is to be compassionate that's always the
0:40:59 default position look at the narrative
0:41:03 was told by our own the allah creature
0:41:06 on this earth
0:41:07 and what did he say about firaoun he
0:41:10 said speak to him
0:41:11 legend and softly and that's why imam
0:41:14 al-quran what is he saying
0:41:15 he says if allah told
0:41:21 this way imagine how we must be with
0:41:22 other people
0:41:25 so yeah exactly for that
0:41:28 you're sorry you've muted start going i
0:41:31 said
0:41:32 thank you you answered perfectly why i
0:41:34 was
0:41:35 very eager to ask somebody so the live
0:41:37 stream came at the perfect time
0:41:40 i really wanted some answers to those
0:41:41 questions thank you mashallah
0:41:44 i'm gonna go drink my coffee and eat my
0:41:46 breakfast but thank you so much for
0:41:47 allowing me on the stream and you
0:41:48 answered perfectly
0:41:55 so we've got some uh questions in the
0:41:57 chat as well so we'll answer these and
0:41:58 then we'll bring
0:41:59 someone else on um so we've got one here
0:42:01 by uh
0:42:03 um a lot of anti-sacrifice propaganda is
0:42:05 going on
0:42:06 uh social media like uh a vegan eid
0:42:09 lives matter uh even some ignorant
0:42:12 muslims how to respond
0:42:14 to such people well you know what's
0:42:17 really funny right
0:42:18 you know these ideological movements
0:42:21 they have a philosophical basis and what
0:42:23 we teach in the daoa
0:42:24 especially when we teach in their course
0:42:26 on no doubt and we teach and awakening
0:42:28 the truth within we
0:42:29 we teach about this concept called world
0:42:32 views
0:42:33 everyone has a worldview brothers and
0:42:34 sisters right everyone has a world view
0:42:37 and that vegans have a world view so why
0:42:39 they saying this is because
0:42:41 they believe in the vegan worldview so
0:42:42 what do they believe they basically
0:42:44 believe that
0:42:45 you can't eat animals because it's
0:42:48 uh there are sentient beings and
0:42:51 basically it's equivalent of murder
0:42:52 essentially
0:42:53 why did they say this because they had
0:42:55 their own philosophical assumptions
0:42:57 behind that all you need to say is well
0:42:58 you have false philosophical assumptions
0:43:00 yes we agree that we shouldn't have over
0:43:03 consumption
0:43:04 we agree that we shouldn't harm animals
0:43:06 if you study the way animals are stored
0:43:08 in islam
0:43:08 how animals are taken care of it's a
0:43:10 phenomenal phenomenal ethical tradition
0:43:12 so we agree with that aspect and we
0:43:14 agree with
0:43:14 over consumption but the philosophical
0:43:17 basis is
0:43:18 it's utter rejection of islam from that
0:43:20 perspective and let me explain why
0:43:22 allah subhanahu wa has said that these
0:43:25 animals have been created
0:43:26 for us to eat full stop you could prove
0:43:29 that
0:43:29 by showing them why the quran is from
0:43:31 allah once they understand that
0:43:33 all of the philosophy becomes redundant
0:43:35 because it's come from
0:43:37 it's come from the all wise and the
0:43:39 all-knowing allah has the totality of
0:43:41 knowledge and wisdom
0:43:42 and he is the source of oh goodness and
0:43:44 he commands that you could eat these
0:43:45 animals
0:43:46 first stop it's an easy easy equation
0:43:48 you prove the quran is from allah
0:43:51 and you prove that the quran says that
0:43:52 allah is the all-knowing the all wise
0:43:54 and he is the source of
0:43:55 goodness so therefore what he commands
0:43:57 is going to be the best
0:43:58 full stop however be nuanced appreciate
0:44:01 the ethical dimension
0:44:02 that yes overconsumption is not good
0:44:04 that animals are being treated really
0:44:05 really bad it's not in line with
0:44:07 designing ethics for sure but the
0:44:08 fundamental philosophical basis is
0:44:09 totally totally
0:44:11 incoherent in actual fact there's a
0:44:13 scientific study study to show
0:44:15 that trees have pain plants have pain
0:44:18 what are you gonna do plants
0:44:20 biologically
0:44:21 they basically are biological creatures
0:44:24 they're living right
0:44:25 they are living and they have pain they
0:44:27 react
0:44:28 in a way that could be described as pain
0:44:30 especially some trees if you read the
0:44:31 book the hidden life of trees you will
0:44:33 see this
0:44:34 what are you gonna do not have
0:44:35 vegetables we're going to eat you're
0:44:36 going to start sucking soil for your
0:44:38 minerals
0:44:39 come on man come on man what's going on
0:44:41 guys
0:44:43 they make these inferences so they they
0:44:45 say
0:44:46 but this is something that i wanted to
0:44:48 just talk about yeah
0:44:50 talk to them about the deep spiritual
0:44:52 nature of sacrificing an animal
0:44:54 i want you guys to think about this so
0:44:56 when you have an animal
0:44:58 and you sacrifice not just for eid but
0:45:00 just to eat
0:45:02 animals in islam are muslim
0:45:05 i repeat animals in islam are
0:45:08 muslim they submit to the will of allah
0:45:12 they are muslim
0:45:14 this muslim has been created
0:45:17 obviously for the kind of biological
0:45:20 the the the kind of environment in order
0:45:22 for the whole
0:45:23 cycle and of life to function and so on
0:45:26 and so forth
0:45:26 but they have also been created for us
0:45:28 to eat them so what is happening here
0:45:31 a muslim has been designed and created
0:45:34 to be sacrificed for you to eat
0:45:36 so that muslim submits and gives his
0:45:40 life to this muslim
0:45:41 myself in order for me to become
0:45:44 stronger and worship allah
0:45:46 that's a different way of looking at it
0:45:48 that is a different paradigm
0:45:49 these creatures have been created for
0:45:51 that purpose they are muslim
0:45:53 and they're sacrificing someone
0:45:54 submitting themselves in order for
0:45:56 another muslim the human being
0:45:58 in order to consume and be grateful
0:46:01 and to give thanks to allah and also to
0:46:03 consume to be strong
0:46:04 to worship allah subhanahu wa that's a
0:46:07 different way of looking at it so
0:46:08 just address it from a kind of
0:46:09 philosophical perspective and an ethical
0:46:11 one as well
0:46:12 and uh yes so i would just for now i
0:46:15 just ignore them just have your lamb
0:46:17 have your beef be grateful to allah say
0:46:21 bismillah be grateful to allah for
0:46:23 for what he's given you if you if you're
0:46:26 grateful to allah will give you
0:46:27 allah will give you more allah will give
0:46:29 you more to be grateful for and also
0:46:31 don't forget to share it with the poor
0:46:32 and to give sadaqa
0:46:34 and so on and so forth so yeah i mean
0:46:37 what's going on with the vegan stuff you
0:46:39 have talked to me yeah so they make this
0:46:41 inference that um
0:46:43 well you know the the plant doesn't have
0:46:45 a nervous system
0:46:46 so therefore it can't feel pain but it's
0:46:48 like well there's lots of things plants
0:46:49 seem to be able to do without
0:46:51 the exact same apparatus as we do for
0:46:53 example they have a form of respiration
0:46:55 but they don't have lungs
0:46:56 they some plants have the ability to
0:46:59 have a
0:47:00 a rudimentary form of memory although
0:47:03 they don't have brains
0:47:04 they communicate although they don't
0:47:05 have mouths and tongues yeah but you
0:47:06 said
0:47:07 a lot of these vegans are usually
0:47:08 atheists right and with all due respect
0:47:10 under your world view it's all reduced
0:47:12 to what
0:47:13 is reduced to blind processes
0:47:17 like these are electrons whizzing around
0:47:18 they're just physical processes that are
0:47:20 basically blind and unconscious
0:47:22 they're blind there's no intentional
0:47:23 force directing them anywhere and
0:47:24 they're blind meaning they're not aware
0:47:25 of themselves or wearing anything
0:47:27 outside of themselves so your whole the
0:47:29 whole physical
0:47:30 world including animals and plants are
0:47:32 just reduced to blind non-conscious
0:47:34 things
0:47:35 i'm just gonna say good night to my
0:47:36 daughter i'll be back in a sec no
0:47:38 problem
0:47:39 even even with your own perspective uh
0:47:42 do you have a philosophical grounding to
0:47:44 even justify things like
0:47:45 oh this is objectively wrong and this is
0:47:47 objectively uh
0:47:48 you know you know it's it's you know
0:47:51 it's we value these things what does
0:47:53 value mean
0:47:53 according to your world view anyway it's
0:47:55 reduced to blind non-conscious physical
0:47:57 processes
0:47:59 with all due respect so um it doesn't
0:48:01 give you a grounding
0:48:02 for your your your your value system
0:48:06 from that perspective so let's now have
0:48:12 uh someone else on borders have someone
0:48:14 salaam alaikum
0:48:18 s
0:48:26 this is for the third time for me that i
0:48:29 have been joining with you guys
0:48:30 and probably you guys were
0:48:34 you guys were doing lives into ramadan
0:48:37 and i have basically two questions
0:48:39 uh the first one that i'm going to ask
0:48:41 now this is something that you know
0:48:44 uh that has been reeling i mean i have
0:48:47 been
0:48:48 reeling on the same question for quite a
0:48:50 few times actually but i'm just trying
0:48:52 to get to that i'm just
0:48:53 trying to get to the key of it because
0:48:56 i'm also
0:48:58 i mean not only to the others i'm also
0:49:00 asking this to myself the question is
0:49:04 what our iman should be contingent upon
0:49:07 because first of all let me tell you
0:49:08 something because when for the first
0:49:10 time i
0:49:10 asked this question it was that
0:49:14 uh how do we determine truth
0:49:18 or what right on the basis of what
0:49:20 criteria do we determine the truth
0:49:23 and i was uh having a discussion with
0:49:26 uh subur ahmed in the ramadan and he
0:49:28 told me that
0:49:30 it's it should be based upon our own
0:49:31 reasoning so
0:49:33 i was quite convinced for a period of
0:49:36 time
0:49:36 uh i got uh you know pretty much
0:49:39 satisfactory
0:49:40 answer from there but later on that i
0:49:43 came to understand that
0:49:45 our reasoning is something that yes you
0:49:47 know
0:49:49 what we determine something to be true
0:49:51 or false that is
0:49:52 entirely based on our own reasoning but
0:49:54 the thing is our own reasoning is not
0:49:56 always
0:49:56 perfect and our reasoning is something i
0:49:59 mean what i came to realize for
0:50:01 uh you know within past few days
0:50:05 that uh truth is something
0:50:08 which is self-sufficient and we with the
0:50:12 ability that we have we we can rather
0:50:15 try to reach up to the truth so
0:50:18 you know i think the basic question it
0:50:20 comes down to the
0:50:22 you know thought that what our iman
0:50:24 should be contingent upon
0:50:27 okay so everyone over squad well there's
0:50:30 a few things here that we need to unpack
0:50:32 because there's a lot to unpack here
0:50:33 brother yeah so the first thing we turn
0:50:35 back
0:50:35 is our iman is contingent on the
0:50:39 guidance of allah
0:50:40 you could be totally irrational and have
0:50:43 iman
0:50:44 okay
0:50:47 irrational from a kind of you know
0:50:49 abstract sense
0:50:50 you need to realize that if allah
0:50:53 decides to guide someone
0:50:55 then what ever type of rationale you
0:50:57 throw at them
0:50:58 to try and prove them wrong or whatever
0:51:00 you throw at them
0:51:01 they're going to remain guided and if
0:51:03 allah decides to misguide someone
0:51:05 even if they seem to be the most
0:51:06 intelligent human being and they have
0:51:07 the great critical thinking skills and
0:51:09 so on and so forth
0:51:10 then they're going to be misguided
0:51:12 that's the that's actually a very
0:51:14 important point you need to understand
0:51:15 because this actually dictates
0:51:16 everything else
0:51:17 so you have to understand that guidance
0:51:19 accepting the truth
0:51:21 and what do you mean by truth here we
0:51:23 mean the representation
0:51:25 of the actual state of affairs
0:51:28 we understand reality
0:51:31 it is our our beliefs
0:51:35 our propositions our representations of
0:51:38 reality our representations of the
0:51:40 actual state of affairs
0:51:42 so when we say this means there is no
0:51:45 deity where they worship
0:51:46 except allah that statement that we
0:51:49 internalize and actualize
0:51:50 is a representation of the greatest
0:51:53 reality
0:51:54 because it is the greatest reality to
0:51:56 understand that there is a deity that is
0:51:58 worthy of worship
0:51:59 okay so when we say truth it's a
0:52:01 representation of the actual state of
0:52:03 affairs
0:52:04 so i've got a bit sidetracked but the
0:52:07 point i'm trying to say here is
0:52:09 that the first thing you need to
0:52:10 understand is guidance and misguidance
0:52:12 the hands of what what's up what to add
0:52:15 now they can be ways to truth
0:52:18 okay so to establish the truth and what
0:52:20 i mean by truth here is talk about la
0:52:22 illaha illallah okay we could talk about
0:52:24 other things like you know
0:52:26 find out how the brain works and how do
0:52:28 you know you know
0:52:30 the process of embryology these things
0:52:32 have put you have yeah
0:52:34 i guess that is the you know biggest
0:52:36 question and the ultimate question
0:52:38 yeah absolutely so let's focus on that
0:52:40 then so
0:52:41 there are different so different means
0:52:43 to establish that okay
0:52:44 now if you understood what we said in
0:52:46 the beginning concerning the kind of
0:52:47 metaphysical backdrop that every human
0:52:49 being has a fit
0:52:50 has innate disposition the kind of
0:52:52 normative primordial original state
0:52:55 that basically either has knowledge
0:52:57 within itself or it
0:52:59 directs you towards the truth
0:53:02 if it's unclouded but a lot of people
0:53:05 have their fits were clouded
0:53:06 so there are different means to uncloud
0:53:09 the fitzwa
0:53:10 to get you to realize that truth one of
0:53:12 those means
0:53:13 can be rational arguments another one
0:53:16 could be
0:53:16 just direct revelation okay so it's not
0:53:20 entirely true that it's an abstract form
0:53:23 of reasoning that would lead you to the
0:53:24 truth
0:53:25 but it is true that a sound
0:53:28 application of reason may lead you to
0:53:31 the truth
0:53:32 but you have to understand this in the
0:53:34 context of the metaphysical backdrop
0:53:36 because the intellect and the islamic
0:53:38 tradition
0:53:39 is a function of the pulp is a function
0:53:42 of the heart
0:53:42 and what does the heart do the heart
0:53:44 does
0:53:46 it wavers but the intellect is within it
0:53:50 and also there is a dynamic interplay
0:53:51 between the nufs the ego
0:53:53 and between the spiritual diseases of
0:53:55 the heart and maybe the fitting of the
0:53:57 heart like shubu heart and shahawat
0:53:59 destructive doubts
0:54:00 and blaming blame where he desires and
0:54:02 so on and so forth
0:54:03 so it's not as simple as saying if you
0:54:05 have sound reasoning
0:54:06 you're going to be guided no because you
0:54:08 may have sound reasoning but
0:54:10 your heart you may have ego so your
0:54:13 sound reasoning may be saying
0:54:14 this is the truth this is the actual
0:54:16 this is the representation of affairs
0:54:18 this is reality but your heart
0:54:22 may have the spiritual disease of kibber
0:54:25 of arrogance
0:54:26 and you the arrogance could be blocking
0:54:28 the function of the heart which is the
0:54:31 right so it's not as simple as saying
0:54:34 reason would lead you to that right
0:54:36 do you understand what i'm saying so far
0:54:38 yeah
0:54:39 i totally understand and actually my
0:54:41 next question is also
0:54:42 about fitna that is that yeah but this
0:54:45 is in line with even western cognitive
0:54:46 psychology
0:54:47 because they even they you know it's
0:54:49 immature to say that we're just abstract
0:54:51 rational beings we're not
0:54:52 there is a cognitive psychological
0:54:54 reality some people like for example in
0:54:56 cognitive science
0:54:57 you research this for yourself people
0:54:59 would think they're rational they have a
0:55:01 rational belief
0:55:02 but it wasn't because of any type of
0:55:04 reason part of it was because of maybe
0:55:06 psychosocial motivations that they
0:55:08 weren't even aware of
0:55:09 right so yeah this is something very
0:55:12 important for us to understand so when
0:55:13 we understand the human being as allah
0:55:15 create the human being
0:55:16 and we understand the role of the fitra
0:55:18 and the quran
0:55:21 that there can be different means to
0:55:22 that truth yes one of them could be a
0:55:25 sound
0:55:26 reasoning sound rationality but it's in
0:55:29 context as well
0:55:30 where the heart is right because the
0:55:33 heart for example
0:55:34 could be infected with kibber if someone
0:55:37 has a high end level of qibla
0:55:39 they will not actualize or internalize
0:55:42 allah
0:55:42 they don't want a deity over them they
0:55:44 want to be deities of themselves
0:55:45 and this is why bro you'll have two
0:55:47 different people
0:55:48 with really good intellects but they'll
0:55:51 have and the same data and they'll have
0:55:53 drastically different conclusions why
0:55:56 oh it's a difference of opinion they've
0:55:57 seen it from a different perspective
0:55:59 maybe
0:56:00 but standing the possibility it could be
0:56:01 where their heart is
0:56:03 it could be where their heart lies maybe
0:56:06 once heart is more free of qibla more
0:56:08 free of arrogance more free of the
0:56:09 spiritual blemishes and it allows them
0:56:11 to see
0:56:12 reality as it is
0:56:17 yeah actually uh so my second question
0:56:19 was uh about the fitra that
0:56:22 what do i i mean what do i understand uh
0:56:25 by fitra
0:56:26 is that probably it is the ability
0:56:30 of recognizing god by born i mean this
0:56:32 is something
0:56:33 uh an innate nature right then
0:56:36 my question would be that how has it
0:56:38 been explained by the prophet muhammad
0:56:39 sallallahu alaihi
0:56:40 because the question arises here
0:56:44 is that if every human being
0:56:47 are born with the fitra then why is
0:56:49 there a necessity
0:56:50 to you know teach them or to let them
0:56:53 know about that there is a god or
0:56:55 something like that i'm not talking
0:56:56 about the rituals or
0:56:57 how to pray or how to what what things
0:56:59 to do or what things are not to be done
0:57:02 but the you know recognition of the
0:57:05 existence of god
0:57:06 why it is necessary necessary to to be
0:57:08 taught
0:57:10 if it is yes well
0:57:13 there is a difference so there's say
0:57:15 there's two opinions of the fitzran one
0:57:16 is that it has a form of proton or
0:57:18 primary knowledge that allah is a
0:57:19 reality is worthy of extensive praise
0:57:22 and the other view of the fitra is that
0:57:23 it's just like an affinity that directs
0:57:25 you towards the truth
0:57:26 so if you give the second opinion that
0:57:28 we that you just mentioned that it's an
0:57:29 affinity that directs you towards the
0:57:30 truth
0:57:31 then it the the fitter would need
0:57:33 guiding right so if the
0:57:35 victor is like a vehicle and is driving
0:57:37 towards the truth
0:57:38 if it gets clouded because of parenting
0:57:40 and socialization
0:57:42 as per the hadith muslim then you need
0:57:44 to to remove some of that mist and those
0:57:46 clouds to
0:57:47 allow it to direct itself towards the
0:57:49 truth so the pedagogy the way you teach
0:57:51 your children
0:57:52 is not to give them the calam
0:57:53 cosmological argument without respect
0:57:55 only your food will do that right
0:57:57 they'll create far more confusion you
0:57:58 don't give a seven-year-old
0:57:59 the calam cosmological argument or the
0:58:01 argument from consciousness of course
0:58:02 not
0:58:03 you would affirm what the fitra dictates
0:58:07 you affirm and someone who has children
0:58:09 you'll realize this
0:58:10 so you you basically just affirm you get
0:58:12 them to look into the cosmos and say
0:58:14 look the stars in the moon who created
0:58:16 that and then you had that discussion it
0:58:17 was allah
0:58:18 you know here's the all-powerful and so
0:58:19 on and so forth you just affirm what
0:58:21 revelation says
0:58:22 that revelation is one of the greatest
0:58:25 ways
0:58:26 of keeping the fitra intact when
0:58:29 they are developing and obviously as
0:58:31 they get older and they encounter other
0:58:32 ideologies and arguments then for sure
0:58:34 you could develop their knowledge base
0:58:36 but as a foundation your pedagogy
0:58:38 should be the values and the principles
0:58:40 of the which are very intuitive very
0:58:41 universal very simple
0:58:43 um and this is why it's very important
0:58:45 but another thing that's important is
0:58:47 you need to create a good relationship
0:58:48 with your children one that is based on
0:58:49 trust and love
0:58:50 in order for them to refer to you at the
0:58:52 same time in order for that knowledge to
0:58:54 make more sense and more meaning to them
0:58:56 but the point here is you you you affirm
0:58:59 the fits fire you don't
0:59:00 necessarily give people new truths and
0:59:03 i've noticed
0:59:04 my with my own children so when i get a
0:59:06 question sometimes i respond to them by
0:59:08 asking them how they would answer the
0:59:09 question and i'm telling you listen to
0:59:11 this
0:59:12 when you get them to sit outside of
0:59:14 themselves and question themselves and
0:59:16 treat themselves as if they're taking
0:59:17 care of their own selves
0:59:19 and they're trying to answer the
0:59:20 question that they've asked
0:59:22 and they they act as a kind of teacher
0:59:24 to themselves i am telling you the fitra
0:59:26 comes out
0:59:27 and they'll come up with an answer that
0:59:31 they already knew and that's part of the
0:59:33 empowerment process
0:59:34 to show to them that they already had
0:59:36 the answer
0:59:37 and this is why you have to understand
0:59:39 the function of ayat
0:59:41 there is an epistemic function
0:59:43 concerning ayat
0:59:45 quranic verses pick for example what
0:59:47 allah says
0:59:48 in chapter 52 verses 35 to 36 allah says
0:59:51 did you
0:59:52 come from nothing did you create
0:59:54 yourself did you create the heavens and
0:59:56 the earth
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0:59:58 indeed you have no firm faith you have
1:00:00 no certainty
1:00:01 allah is not even giving you an answer
1:00:03 it's implied
1:00:04 but these i act act as triggers to
1:00:06 awaken the fitra or to uncloud the fit
1:00:08 to affirm what the fitra is upon for
1:00:11 example did you come from nothing
1:00:13 did you create yourself ask someone that
1:00:15 question and i'm telling you i asked
1:00:16 this question to
1:00:17 a atheist in qatar he was from china he
1:00:20 had a business there
1:00:21 and i asked him these questions and he
1:00:24 ended up being someone who believed in
1:00:26 a creator after that just by virtue of
1:00:28 these questions and some discussion
1:00:30 the these ayat revelation quran quranic
1:00:33 verses
1:00:34 many of these verses act as epistemic
1:00:37 triggers
1:00:38 they trigger the fitra to bring it back
1:00:39 onto the path to uncloud it and allow it
1:00:42 to direct itself towards the truth
1:00:44 in reality you're not teaching you're
1:00:47 awakening
1:00:48 and yes obviously there'll be
1:00:49 embellishments to this meaning you're
1:00:51 going to add like allah is
1:00:53 going to teach them names and attributes
1:00:54 but when we talk about the fifth vowel
1:00:56 we're talking about
1:00:57 the basic essential underlying
1:01:00 concept behind the idea of a creator
1:01:02 that is worthy of watching
1:01:04 that basic concept does not need to be
1:01:06 taught
1:01:07 like the concept of cause and effect
1:01:09 that that
1:01:10 effects have causes you don't keep have
1:01:13 you ever seen someone in school being
1:01:15 taught that effects have causes
1:01:17 i was never taught that at school i
1:01:19 understood this through my own
1:01:20 introspection and reflection
1:01:22 this is one of the kind of
1:01:24 characteristics of what you call a
1:01:26 self-evident truth and in the divine
1:01:28 reality course we talk about the
1:01:29 self-evident truth of the underlying
1:01:31 concept of god
1:01:32 that there is a creator a prior cause
1:01:34 uncreated cause
1:01:35 for reality and a self-evident truth
1:01:38 which is not made up this exists in
1:01:40 western philosophy
1:01:41 you could call it assumption axioms or
1:01:43 first principles
1:01:44 and characteristics of these is that
1:01:46 they are they are untaught meaning
1:01:48 they're not taught by information
1:01:50 transfer
1:01:52 so the concept of a crew of a creator or
1:01:54 cause and effect
1:01:56 you don't teach someone that they learn
1:01:58 it within themselves through their own
1:02:00 introspection and experience it's not
1:02:02 via information transfer
1:02:04 does that make sense yeah totally
1:02:07 actually i i see the problem why why
1:02:09 these uh problems and questions or doubt
1:02:12 whatever you say this comes up
1:02:14 is that you know we do not really
1:02:16 understand or introspect on the thing
1:02:18 that why do we believe something that we
1:02:20 believe
1:02:21 actually basically i am currently now
1:02:23 studying in the university
1:02:24 when i was a teenage boy i was used to
1:02:27 listen to mr zakir naik and he was very
1:02:29 he was quite expert at you know relating
1:02:32 quran and islam with science so and
1:02:34 being a young boy who was very much
1:02:36 interested in scientific contentions and
1:02:38 all that
1:02:39 so i somehow started to believe that
1:02:41 science or scientific methodology was
1:02:43 you know a way of
1:02:46 recognizing the truth at least for the
1:02:48 natural truth so anything that
1:02:50 uh contradicts with science and anything
1:02:53 that contradicts with science or
1:02:55 uh something that is established fact
1:02:58 that
1:02:58 might have not been you know or
1:03:00 something that is true so
1:03:02 i grew up having that kind of a mindset
1:03:05 and
1:03:07 a few days ago actually it was the last
1:03:09 year when i uh just just out of
1:03:11 curiosity i was
1:03:12 searching on the internet that the
1:03:14 scientific errors in quran and islam
1:03:16 something like that
1:03:17 i knew that some uh answers were gonna
1:03:20 come but i was just more curious to know
1:03:22 that what islamic scholars has to say
1:03:23 about that
1:03:24 so when i saw that you know i i got
1:03:27 pretty much
1:03:27 shook having seen that oh my god islamic
1:03:31 uh contentions sometimes might
1:03:33 contradict the science then i
1:03:34 got to understand that you know we
1:03:36 cannot uh you know think within that
1:03:38 paradigm so from there on actually i
1:03:40 kept having this question in my mind and
1:03:42 then what do we rely upon
1:03:44 because science is something that cannot
1:03:46 be
1:03:47 used to establish truth maybe sometimes
1:03:49 it could be
1:03:50 but you know it is not actually simple
1:03:53 science can be used
1:03:54 to understand the truth of the physical
1:03:57 world
1:03:58 that's no problem it's it's it's
1:04:01 the one is the best method to understand
1:04:04 the physical world how the physical
1:04:05 world works which in reality
1:04:07 is looking at how allah
1:04:10 allah manifests itself in physical
1:04:13 reality
1:04:14 so yeah exactly that's why we cannot
1:04:17 defer actually
1:04:18 you know yes
1:04:22 now there is actually not a problem the
1:04:24 problem becomes when
1:04:25 we somehow take it for granted that yes
1:04:28 scientific methodology at least for the
1:04:30 natural phenomena what science has to
1:04:32 say if that contradicts with any kind
1:04:34 anything
1:04:35 uh with the religion probably their
1:04:37 religion is pure the false
1:04:41 so there's a difference here he is he is
1:04:44 what the class of scholars would say
1:04:47 so in order to understand the physical
1:04:48 world you use the scientific method no
1:04:50 problem
1:04:51 scientific method free from kind of
1:04:55 ideological constructs philosophical
1:04:58 naturalism assuming that there is no god
1:05:00 you don't come to
1:05:01 see the physical world assuming there's
1:05:02 no god right
1:05:04 so you don't you don't read in atheism
1:05:06 into your into your science that would
1:05:08 be unscientific you just look at the
1:05:09 physical world and you see how it works
1:05:12 so i totally understand that because you
1:05:13 know i also started something
1:05:16 sorry sorry you probably you just your
1:05:18 voice came up
1:05:20 oh sorry i just mean so basically
1:05:24 you have the scientific method as a
1:05:26 general rule
1:05:28 well-confirmed scientific theories that
1:05:31 are successful
1:05:31 that have predictive power you accept
1:05:34 them you accept them so any welcome film
1:05:37 theory that has predicted power this has
1:05:39 a high
1:05:39 epistemic status in the scientific
1:05:42 community
1:05:43 there's no such thing as just a theory
1:05:45 right it's not just a theory
1:05:46 theory science is a well-confirmed uh
1:05:49 successful theory that has predictive
1:05:51 power so you as a default position you
1:05:53 accept it
1:05:54 and islam allows you to accept it
1:05:57 here's here's where you need some
1:05:59 understanding
1:06:01 if and only if there is a scientific
1:06:03 theory that's well confirmed with
1:06:05 predictive power and
1:06:06 successful if it somehow contradicts
1:06:09 islam irreconcilably meaning there is no
1:06:12 reconciliation
1:06:14 then what you can do you could still
1:06:16 accept the theory practically
1:06:19 but you accept what islam says why
1:06:21 because
1:06:22 if you believe in islam you know it has
1:06:23 a higher epistemic status
1:06:26 than the scientific method because even
1:06:29 a will confirm theory that has
1:06:30 predictive power and that's successful
1:06:32 even if you're a scientific realist or
1:06:34 an anti-realist or an instrumentalist
1:06:36 you're still gonna affirm that
1:06:39 it could be false and it can change
1:06:42 right even realists believe in this
1:06:44 they believe yes it could be even though
1:06:46 we believe what confirm theories are
1:06:49 a representation of the actual state of
1:06:50 affairs they could be false and they
1:06:52 could change
1:06:53 given that then you know if there's an
1:06:56 irreconcilable contradiction with islam
1:06:58 you still accept the theory because it's
1:07:00 working and it's giving you some
1:07:01 positive things from a practical point
1:07:02 of view
1:07:03 but you don't accept it you are either
1:07:05 because you know it's not necessarily
1:07:06 true that just because something works
1:07:08 is true
1:07:09 and you accept islam what islam says but
1:07:12 you still work with it with the theory
1:07:14 practically but that's if and only if a
1:07:17 well-confirmed theory that is successful
1:07:20 cannot be reconciled with is anything
1:07:22 that islam says and that is extremely
1:07:24 rare
1:07:25 i don't think there is anything in
1:07:27 science
1:07:28 that goes against uh islam
1:07:31 that cannot be reconciled even
1:07:36 even when people say darwinism the
1:07:37 darwinian mechanism that darwinism
1:07:40 it believes in common ancestry and and
1:07:42 scientists they believe common ancestry
1:07:45 is almost equivalent to the earth being
1:07:47 round or
1:07:48 for basically um uh heliocentrism okay
1:07:53 yeah right
1:07:58 didn't have parents there is no common
1:08:00 ancestry
1:08:02 we agree adam islam did not have parents
1:08:04 he was created by allah
1:08:07 but is there a way to reconcile those
1:08:10 two different things
1:08:11 maybe you're going to develop a theory
1:08:13 called adamic exceptionalism
1:08:14 maybe you're going to develop another
1:08:16 kind of perspective the point is it's
1:08:18 not
1:08:18 irreconcilable yeah and what i'm saying
1:08:22 it from the realm of orthodoxy we
1:08:24 affirmed that adam and islam had
1:08:26 no evolutionary foreigner had no parents
1:08:29 allah
1:08:30 allah created adamantium directly even
1:08:32 the idea itself
1:08:34 is still reconcilable it's not it's not
1:08:36 irreconcilable that's my point
1:08:39 so even if you talk about darwinism
1:08:40 which is supposed to be contentious
1:08:42 which i don't think is even contentious
1:08:43 from that perspective
1:08:45 it's not a major issue but if you happen
1:08:47 hypothetically which i don't think has
1:08:48 ever existed or will exist
1:08:50 that there is a theory that's well
1:08:52 confirmed and successful and it happened
1:08:53 to
1:08:54 be irreconcilable with an islamic or in
1:08:57 a quranic verse then you could adopt
1:08:59 what i've just said
1:09:00 which is you accept what islam says
1:09:03 because you know it's come from a higher
1:09:04 epistemic
1:09:06 source has a higher epistemic status and
1:09:09 you still accept the
1:09:10 theory practically but not in your
1:09:12 belief because you know
1:09:13 even in scientific realism they still
1:09:16 believe that it can change and it could
1:09:18 be false
1:09:18 simple as that it's such actually an
1:09:20 easy way of dealing with it
1:09:22 now obviously it obviously raises the
1:09:24 question
1:09:26 you know oh but you have to prove that
1:09:28 islam has a high epistemic status i
1:09:30 agree
1:09:30 and that's what we have to do in the
1:09:32 dawah
1:09:34 exactly i totally agree with you
1:09:36 actually i do understand all the things
1:09:38 that you have just said because i also
1:09:40 studied
1:09:40 science uh in my school so
1:09:44 as i accept the fact that you know
1:09:45 science even if science contradicts this
1:09:48 islam and so on and so forth
1:09:50 then i have seen people while discussing
1:09:54 about these matters that then they ask
1:09:56 me the question
1:09:57 that then what is the objective proof
1:10:00 or which could conveniently
1:10:03 explain that islam is the truth because
1:10:06 once i was having a conversation with
1:10:08 some atheists and agnostics and they
1:10:10 i asked them that what is the criteria
1:10:11 of truth and i told them that i am a
1:10:13 muslim
1:10:14 and they asked me that why are you a
1:10:15 muslim then
1:10:17 for me actually i i tried to give some
1:10:20 arguments and i
1:10:21 uh told them that my criteria of
1:10:24 establishing truth is my own reasoning
1:10:26 and we could talk about that later but
1:10:28 they
1:10:28 kept asking me that why is there
1:10:32 is there any objective evidence or way
1:10:34 of
1:10:35 verifying that yes islam is true or if
1:10:37 there is any god or not
1:10:38 so that's why actually i well that that
1:10:41 with all due respect to be answered on
1:10:43 this live stream comprehensively
1:10:45 is going to take some time so what we
1:10:47 advise you to do is we have a learning
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1:10:50 that's uh the the functionality is there
1:10:53 and we've
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1:10:56 professional courses and our objective
1:10:58 to do 10
1:10:59 we promised last ramadan we'll have 10
1:11:01 professional courses
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1:11:31 and so forth
1:11:33 actually if you've noticed uh every week
1:11:36 or every couple of weeks
1:11:38 we have an academic seminar so the
1:11:40 previous seminar was one on
1:11:43 um i forgot it was i did one on the
1:11:46 linguistic miracle of the quran are
1:11:47 ticking it
1:11:48 to non-arabs that you don't have to know
1:11:50 anything about the arabic language to
1:11:51 show that the quran is from allah from a
1:11:52 linguistic perspective
1:11:54 we had one on beauty we had one on the
1:11:57 sabra nichola
1:11:58 massacre on being human hopefully
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1:12:16 couple of weeks
1:12:17 we're going to be having these academic
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1:12:34 your knowledge as well
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1:12:42 also reading i've also downloaded the
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1:13:06 have to let you go on our brother
1:13:08 as we've got a few people waiting yes or
1:13:09 comments yeah
1:13:12 thank you so much
1:13:18 and uh we've lost hamza um i'm not 100
1:13:21 sure where he's gone
1:13:23 i i had to uh look for the charger so we
1:13:26 had to sort that out for the laptop
1:13:28 yeah no problem no problem so we've got
1:13:29 a here uh we've got one comment and then
1:13:31 we'll move to brother al-amin in the
1:13:33 back i think it's a brother
1:13:34 um so this question is very relevant uh
1:13:38 how do we explain that allah is the most
1:13:40 merciful and the most forgiving
1:13:42 if he sends people to hell or hell fire
1:13:46 well the first thing that you have to
1:13:47 understand is that allah is not only the
1:13:48 most merciful most forgiving he's also
1:13:50 the most just
1:13:51 so we understand allah's names and
1:13:52 attributes
1:13:54 by his oneness and we also understand
1:13:56 allah's names and attributes by his
1:13:58 maximum perfection
1:13:59 what does this mean so in the islamic
1:14:01 tradition
1:14:02 across the schools of creed that we
1:14:04 understand that allah's names and
1:14:05 attributes
1:14:06 are to the highest degree possible
1:14:08 without any deficiency without any flaw
1:14:10 this is
1:14:10 maximal perfection so when we say allah
1:14:12 is the most forgiving
1:14:14 we're saying his forgiveness is to the
1:14:16 highest it'd be possible now for example
1:14:19 you know i heard for example some
1:14:20 personal people say that
1:14:22 oh but i'm more forgiving than allah i
1:14:24 want some people to hell
1:14:26 but this is what you call basically a
1:14:28 logical fallacy because you're comparing
1:14:31 apples and bears from that perspective
1:14:33 because when when a human being forgives
1:14:36 they need to forgive in some way it has
1:14:38 an internal or an external benefit
1:14:40 it completes them from some perspective
1:14:43 when allah forgives
1:14:44 he does not require anything he does not
1:14:47 he doesn't require any completion he
1:14:49 doesn't need anything
1:14:51 think about this allah is the most
1:14:53 powerful
1:14:54 allah is he is the free
1:14:58 he is the rich he is the independent
1:15:01 when he forgives or when he loves he
1:15:04 gains nothing by forgiving and nothing
1:15:06 by loving
1:15:07 such is allah yet he loves
1:15:10 so when you think about allah's
1:15:11 forgiveness it's always going to be
1:15:14 more perfect than anyone else's
1:15:16 forgiveness because when you forgive
1:15:17 you need to forgive in some way it
1:15:20 benefits you internally or externally
1:15:22 allah does not require anything he is
1:15:25 completely
1:15:26 free completely rich completely
1:15:28 independent
1:15:29 yet he loves imagine how and he forgives
1:15:32 imagine how pure
1:15:33 and maximally perfect his forgiveness is
1:15:36 that's
1:15:36 that's that's that's uh uh uh something
1:15:39 very important that people forget
1:15:41 to think about for example allah's love
1:15:43 and forgiveness and love are connected
1:15:44 anyway
1:15:45 he is the loving now when you think
1:15:47 about allah's love
1:15:48 in the context of what i've just said
1:15:50 you understand that allah's love is to
1:15:51 the highest
1:15:52 degree possible without any deficiency
1:15:53 and not any flaw think about one of the
1:15:55 greatest manifestations of
1:15:57 love in the dunya the one the great one
1:15:59 of the greatest manifestations of love
1:16:01 in the dunya is a mother's love
1:16:04 and mother's love is nothing compared to
1:16:06 the love of allah there is no
1:16:08 you can't even compare with allah
1:16:10 committee there is nothing
1:16:12 like committee as his example
1:16:15 don't forget there's nothing like allah
1:16:17 there's nothing like even his example
1:16:18 and with and with allah
1:16:20 is the highest example so what i'm
1:16:21 comparing but we're trying to show to
1:16:23 you that a mother loves because she
1:16:24 needs to love it completely in some way
1:16:27 when allah loves he does not
1:16:29 require completion yet he loves
1:16:33 imagine how pure his love is from that
1:16:35 perspective
1:16:36 so that's why even the question is
1:16:39 forced when someone says oh i want to do
1:16:40 such a thing
1:16:42 you're comparing apples and pears and
1:16:43 you've misunderstood the reality of
1:16:44 what's panel word to adam
1:16:46 also we have to understand the concept
1:16:48 of hell here i've mentioned this earlier
1:16:49 i don't know if you were around
1:16:52 allah doesn't want people to go to hell
1:16:55 this is this is a quranic fact he sends
1:16:58 people to hell
1:16:59 but does he want people to go to heaven
1:17:01 no allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
1:17:05 is also the just allah subhanahu wa
1:17:07 ta'ala is also forgiving and the
1:17:09 merciful
1:17:10 and allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has given
1:17:12 you the opportunity has kept the door
1:17:14 open to his guidance and mercy
1:17:16 we shut that door and then the only door
1:17:18 that is left
1:17:19 is we throw ourselves into the hellfire
1:17:22 so it's not the question of
1:17:23 how can a loving lord send us to hell
1:17:26 but rather
1:17:27 how can how can we choose hell
1:17:30 over a loving lord as allah says in the
1:17:32 quran
1:17:33 and they did and we did not wrong them
1:17:36 they
1:17:36 wronged themselves we throw ourselves
1:17:40 from an existential spiritual
1:17:41 perspective into the hellfire
1:17:43 that's something that's very important
1:17:44 to understand and when you're in hell
1:17:48 people will not say it's an injustice
1:17:52 think about that think about that people
1:17:55 will not say it's an injustice it's a
1:17:58 manifestation of the justice of allah
1:18:01 the forgiveness and guidance the door
1:18:03 was open
1:18:04 we closed it and this is very
1:18:07 interesting considering the maximum
1:18:08 forgiveness of allah anyway because
1:18:11 allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
1:18:13 and by the way when allah says you know
1:18:15 when we say whoever allah guides no one
1:18:17 can misguide whoever allah misguides no
1:18:18 one can guide
1:18:20 that also has a context because when you
1:18:21 look into the quran allah says allah
1:18:23 does not guide so and so
1:18:25 allah loves so-and-so so there's a kind
1:18:27 of almost
1:18:29 quasi-spiritual correlation between who
1:18:31 we are in guidance and misguidance for
1:18:33 example if you're arrogant
1:18:34 then that's going to be a barrier to
1:18:36 divine guidance and mercy but
1:18:38 the backdrop is that allah guides and
1:18:40 misguides whoever he wills
1:18:41 but there is a kind of elaboration to a
1:18:44 certain degree on
1:18:45 the kind of spiritual mechanics of that
1:18:47 yeah but notwithstanding it's very
1:18:49 important to even look at the story of
1:18:50 adam alaihissalam
1:18:52 which is very different from the
1:18:53 christian story because the christian
1:18:55 the christian god with all due respect
1:18:56 is not a loving god with all due respect
1:18:58 i don't know how they've sold this
1:19:00 narrative to the world
1:19:01 i don't know how they've done it
1:19:02 probably with colonialism god knows
1:19:04 but i don't know how they saw this
1:19:06 forced narrative because how can you say
1:19:08 god is
1:19:08 perfectly loving in the christian
1:19:09 tradition he is not perfectly forgiving
1:19:12 and forgiveness is the language of love
1:19:15 because in the in the biblical sense you
1:19:17 have adam who
1:19:18 falls falls from grace right and god
1:19:21 can't forgive him
1:19:22 it has to be a blood sacrifice the
1:19:24 forgiveness is not based on the
1:19:26 relationship between creator
1:19:27 and the create created rather it has to
1:19:30 be based on something outside of that
1:19:32 relationship like a sacrifice or
1:19:33 whatever the case may be
1:19:34 this is not maximum forgiveness
1:19:38 think about the story in the quran the
1:19:40 adamic story
1:19:42 allah describes the fall of adam and his
1:19:44 wife
1:19:45 as a slip and allah what does allah
1:19:50 say allah says and we turn to them
1:19:53 which indicates that we turn away from
1:19:55 allah
1:19:56 when you say oh i'm not close to allah
1:19:58 then think about who moved
1:20:00 who moved we moved
1:20:05 but allah turned to them and allah
1:20:08 taught them words of forgiveness and
1:20:10 they
1:20:10 uttered them and allah forgave them
1:20:12 famous words in the quran
1:20:22 look at that maximum forgiveness let me
1:20:25 give you two scenarios it's not an
1:20:26 example but you could elaborate from
1:20:28 greater reason
1:20:29 example no scenario number one you have
1:20:31 a king of a castle
1:20:33 as servant of the castle he does
1:20:36 something wrong and he goes to the king
1:20:37 i've done something wrong
1:20:39 king says i can't forgive you the only
1:20:41 way i can forgive you
1:20:42 is for me to kill my son but not only to
1:20:46 kill my son you have to accept that i've
1:20:48 killed my son
1:20:50 is that maximal forgiveness maximal love
1:20:52 no
1:20:53 look at another scenario king of a
1:20:55 castle
1:20:56 someone a servant makes a mistake does
1:20:59 something wrong
1:21:00 in the castle and he goes to the king i
1:21:02 made a mistake
1:21:03 and the king turns to him and says say
1:21:06 these words and i will forgive you
1:21:08 what is maximum forgiveness scenario
1:21:10 number one or sarah number two what's
1:21:11 more in line with maximum forgiveness
1:21:13 it's scenario number two scenario number
1:21:16 one
1:21:17 describes the biblical god scenario
1:21:19 number two describes the quranic word
1:21:21 allahu akbar
1:21:25 on remember
1:21:26 [Music]
1:21:28 allah turned to our father and told him
1:21:31 words of forgiveness
1:21:32 which by extrapolation means allah
1:21:34 turned to us
1:21:35 and taught us words of forgiveness all
1:21:37 we have to do is ask allah for
1:21:38 forgiveness
1:21:41 i hope that answers the questions yeah i
1:21:43 just want to
1:21:44 um make reference to a verse of the
1:21:46 quran
1:21:47 and to a hadith as well that really get
1:21:50 this point across
1:21:51 so the the verse of
1:21:55 uh chapter 39 verse
1:21:59 53 uh where allah says
1:22:03 uh say all my servants who have
1:22:04 transgressed against themselves
1:22:07 um so noting here as well that allah
1:22:09 hasn't wronged us we we've wrung
1:22:11 ourselves
1:22:11 do not despair of the mercy of allah
1:22:13 subhanahu wa'ta'ala indeed allah
1:22:15 forgives
1:22:16 all sins indeed he uh it is he
1:22:20 who is the forgiving the merciful and
1:22:21 it's conditional here that the person
1:22:23 turns to him
1:22:24 and seeks repentance and so allah says
1:22:27 in the quran
1:22:28 he doesn't forgive shirk that's on the
1:22:31 condition that the person hasn't turned
1:22:32 and seeks repentance that is they've
1:22:34 sincerely
1:22:35 gone to him and asked and so there's
1:22:37 another hadith that really complements
1:22:39 this
1:22:39 um that's a beautiful hadith and it's
1:22:43 one of the forty hadith uh kudzi
1:22:46 and it says on the authority of anas may
1:22:48 allah pleases him he said
1:22:49 i heard the messenger of allah um
1:22:53 say allah the almighty said o son of
1:22:56 adam so long as you call upon me and ask
1:22:58 of me
1:22:59 i shall forgive you for what you have
1:23:01 done and i shall not mind
1:23:03 oh son of adam alaihi salaam were your
1:23:05 sins to reach the clouds of the sky
1:23:09 and were you then to ask forgiveness of
1:23:11 me i would forgive you
1:23:13 oh son of adam were you to come to me
1:23:15 with sins
1:23:16 nearly as great as the earth and you
1:23:18 were to face
1:23:19 me ascribing no partner to me i would
1:23:22 bring forgiveness nearly as great as it
1:23:25 it was related at uh at tiramidi uh also
1:23:29 by ahmad
1:23:31 and it's considered a sound hadith so
1:23:34 allah here is it
1:23:36 is making it so clear that that no
1:23:39 matter how
1:23:40 bad of a person you've been no matter to
1:23:42 what degree
1:23:43 your sins pile up into the earth
1:23:46 he can wipe them all away and all it
1:23:49 takes is you to turn to him so
1:23:51 and for those who go oh well i could
1:23:53 forgive um
1:23:54 more how can you forgive more than all
1:23:57 you know
1:23:58 you can't do more than that and for
1:23:59 those who say i would forgive someone
1:24:00 even if they didn't see forgiveness
1:24:02 so how is that is not wise that like so
1:24:05 what you need to understand is
1:24:06 allah is not all merciful he's the most
1:24:09 merciful
1:24:10 and what this suggests is that being all
1:24:13 merciful
1:24:13 isn't praiseworthy so we've got a
1:24:16 perfect example to
1:24:17 demonstrate that being all merciful is
1:24:19 not praiseworthy
1:24:20 um so the example of the christ church
1:24:23 killer
1:24:24 now subhanallah i was unfortunate enough
1:24:28 to have
1:24:28 seen the video of this sick individual
1:24:32 and it was heartbreaking and he showed
1:24:34 no remorse
1:24:35 he acted like it was a computer game he
1:24:38 was proud of what he did
1:24:39 he would you know and if he's in court
1:24:42 and he's before the judge
1:24:44 and he's made it clear that he's done it
1:24:46 everyone knows he's done it this video
1:24:47 footage that you know he's not denying
1:24:49 it
1:24:49 um and he's showing he's proud he's not
1:24:51 remorseful
1:24:52 he's not seeking forgiveness he'd say
1:24:55 he'd do it again
1:24:56 he's justifying it and you know he's
1:25:00 he's in a position where he's done what
1:25:02 he's done
1:25:03 and he has no consideration whatsoever
1:25:06 um for seeking forgiveness at all
1:25:10 now if the judge in this case was to say
1:25:13 you know what i'm going to have mercy on
1:25:15 him i forgive you
1:25:17 yeah you could call him like really what
1:25:20 merciful in this degree um to
1:25:23 i guess in some way you could maybe even
1:25:25 say that he was really forgiving
1:25:27 um but is that just and is it wise
1:25:31 of course not this example
1:25:34 of mercy is is an example of a
1:25:37 an idiotic mercy of a non-praiseworthy
1:25:41 form of mercy
1:25:43 mercy yeah it's a non-maximal mercy
1:25:46 absolutely
1:25:46 yeah just give them this scenario
1:25:50 should hitler and moses have the same
1:25:53 fate
1:25:56 just intuitively should hitler and moses
1:25:59 have the same fate
1:26:00 if you believe they should have all the
1:26:02 same fate the same outcome
1:26:04 then in reality you don't value anything
1:26:07 because if everything is valued the same
1:26:09 then you don't value anything at all
1:26:10 which is not praiseworthy it's not
1:26:11 maximally perfect
1:26:12 that's not a maximal way of dealing with
1:26:15 these realities
1:26:16 are you saying hitler and moses should
1:26:18 have the same outcome
1:26:20 as a principal of course you wouldn't it
1:26:23 would be insane thing to say
1:26:25 it's just like when people say oh i love
1:26:27 everything if you love everything with
1:26:28 all due respect you don't have anything
1:26:30 if you love everything you don't love
1:26:32 anything at all because are you gonna
1:26:34 love
1:26:34 the barriers to love are you gonna love
1:26:37 hate are you gonna love
1:26:38 those things which prevent love from
1:26:40 manifesting itself
1:26:42 it's such an insane thing to say right
1:26:46 i love everything well if you love
1:26:48 everything you don't love
1:26:49 anything at all right and similarly and
1:26:52 that's why
1:26:53 value comes into play justice comes into
1:26:55 play like uh yusuf eloquently just
1:26:57 uh expressed his lock right here yusuf
1:26:59 beautiful
1:27:00 no problem so yes let's take something i
1:27:02 mean so sorry for keeping you waiting
1:27:05 but it's like a picture yeah i know
1:27:08 it looks good it looks a bit like you
1:27:10 bro looks a bit like you bro
1:27:12 that's a long ago
1:27:29 i'm on my phone with headphone yeah now
1:27:31 it's clear
1:27:32 yeah it sounds a bit better now there's
1:27:33 no way no no there's echo i can hear it
1:27:36 though
1:27:37 yeah can you what we'll do is uh
1:27:40 when we're talking we'll mute you and
1:27:42 then when we finish talking we'll unmute
1:27:43 so that you can see what you need to say
1:27:45 inshallah
1:27:48 so it's been a several times i i've
1:27:50 joined sapiens lab
1:27:51 but uh it's first time i'm talking to
1:27:53 ustad hamza
1:27:54 so it's a very special moment for me
1:27:58 so basically um i have no actually
1:28:02 question but uh and recently i'm
1:28:04 discussing with an agnostic
1:28:06 uh agnostica i don't personally i don't
1:28:10 personally know him uh he's actually
1:28:12 from somalia and then he
1:28:15 have gone to england so then
1:28:18 uh so i have been discussing him for uh
1:28:21 several months
1:28:23 so first of all when a talk started with
1:28:26 the existence of god
1:28:28 then i have just at first i just
1:28:31 shared the cosmological argument with
1:28:34 him
1:28:35 then after after
1:28:38 discussing it he said to me that it does
1:28:40 make sense to him but
1:28:42 then um he just he just said no
1:28:46 but at the end of the day it doesn't
1:28:48 make sense so
1:28:50 he's not certain about whether
1:28:53 the argument is coherent or incoherent
1:28:57 then we just moved on saying
1:29:01 about hell now which brother asked
1:29:04 before me about the hell and a merciful
1:29:07 god
1:29:08 so the fact is when i give him
1:29:11 when i uh give him give him an argument
1:29:14 he he don't actually
1:29:16 uh counter my argument or try to
1:29:19 count counter attack me or or any
1:29:22 argument he just
1:29:24 keep repeating the same thing that how
1:29:25 allah can bring me to hell just because
1:29:28 i
1:29:28 i don't believe in him and just because
1:29:31 reminds me of someone reminds me
1:29:35 yeah well yeah just because i don't
1:29:36 believe
1:29:40 it's not as simple as that because you
1:29:43 see
1:29:44 it's not hacking allah sending me to
1:29:46 help someone believe in him no
1:29:47 it's basically you are choosing hell
1:29:50 because you're choosing not to believe
1:29:51 in him
1:29:52 when the truth comes apart to you and
1:29:54 you could tell that his issue is not
1:29:56 an intellectual because he doesn't have
1:29:58 responses to intellectual arguments he's
1:29:59 got something else that's going on
1:30:01 and an emotive or psychological issue or
1:30:03 even a spiritual issue
1:30:05 the point here is the question's wrong
1:30:08 it's like
1:30:08 i'm rejecting allah i'm closing the door
1:30:11 to allah's guidance and mercy we've
1:30:12 mentioned this before if
1:30:13 you go on this live stream hopefully
1:30:15 we'll do the time stamps and you see a
1:30:17 more lengthy answer that we've
1:30:18 elaborated on this
1:30:20 but basically you are choosing hell over
1:30:22 allah that's the point
1:30:24 allah doesn't want anyone to go to hell
1:30:26 we already mentioned this before we've
1:30:27 elaborated on this
1:30:28 the thing is allah does not wrong them
1:30:30 they wrong themselves
1:30:31 okay so this is very critical for them
1:30:33 to understand is that you are actually
1:30:35 making the choice
1:30:36 right you are making closing the stamp
1:30:38 of your heart i learned this from
1:30:41 this very beautiful video he did it was
1:30:43 very simple but it was profound
1:30:44 he was like you know you keep on
1:30:46 rejecting allah closing though to his
1:30:47 mercy
1:30:48 you still got hope then you keep on
1:30:50 closing the door to his mercy and you
1:30:51 keep on
1:30:52 closing the door to forgiveness you keep
1:30:53 on closing the door you keep on normal
1:30:55 to go through that door that's open for
1:30:57 you
1:30:58 and you keep on doing it you keep on
1:30:59 doing it and then you've stamped your
1:31:00 heart
1:31:01 and then it's closed right so it's
1:31:03 similar to that it's you're doing
1:31:05 it is you're doing so what you need to
1:31:07 do with that human being you get to
1:31:09 realize that they actually have a
1:31:10 responsibility the option is
1:31:12 open for them to go to paradise the
1:31:15 option for allah's forgiveness and love
1:31:16 is there is waiting for them
1:31:18 they just have to walk through that door
1:31:20 that's what they have to not realize
1:31:22 that's the paradigm shift you have to
1:31:23 explain to them
1:31:25 and and you have to explain to them this
1:31:27 actually you not willing to walk through
1:31:28 that door so you're sending yourself
1:31:30 to the other direction you're moving
1:31:32 away from paradise from eternal bliss
1:31:34 and you're throwing yourself into
1:31:35 jahannam that's what they need to
1:31:37 realize
1:31:39 um so if you go previously hopefully
1:31:41 we'll
1:31:42 time stamp all the other questions um
1:31:44 because we elaborate on this
1:31:46 in i think two different places in
1:31:48 detail so you know i think this person
1:31:50 needs i think
1:31:52 needs maybe an awareness of who is needs
1:31:55 some spirituality needs to understand
1:31:56 allah's names and attributes who allah
1:31:58 is
1:31:59 what allah wants from us because if he
1:32:01 hasn't got responses to intellectual
1:32:02 arguments just like what we mentioned in
1:32:03 the beginning about the metaphysical
1:32:05 backdrop of the human being
1:32:06 that we're not just an abstract
1:32:07 intellect there's an interplay between
1:32:09 the palm the
1:32:10 fitra so on and so and the fitra gets
1:32:12 clouded
1:32:13 maybe one of his clouds is not a
1:32:14 rational argument he needs some direct
1:32:16 access to revelation
1:32:17 allah's names and attributes needs some
1:32:19 spirituality he needs some positive
1:32:20 experiences with muslims
1:32:22 he may need some something else so the
1:32:24 indication is there if he doesn't have
1:32:25 responses to your rational arguments
1:32:27 there's something else that's going on
1:32:28 they need to explore and install with
1:32:31 rahman with mercy and with hikmah with
1:32:33 wisdom you can deal with that
1:32:34 appropriately inshallah
1:32:36 yeah and also be patient with them like
1:32:39 if you'd have met
1:32:40 me in my teenage years maybe
1:32:43 you would have thought the same um
1:32:46 i was i could be quite arrogant i could
1:32:48 be quiet
1:32:49 um but not saying that i'm not now
1:32:51 because sometimes i can't be but
1:32:53 um yeah i was very hard-headed and sure
1:32:57 of myself in particular ways
1:32:59 and you know
1:33:02 aloha about it like however many years
1:33:04 later um
1:33:05 i embraced islam and now i actively
1:33:07 propagate it so
1:33:08 you know you never know what the future
1:33:10 holds um and there's examples of this
1:33:12 even within the
1:33:13 companions of the prophet muhammad be
1:33:15 pleased with them all
1:33:17 where you would look at how they treated
1:33:20 the prophet
1:33:21 um you know there was one of them i
1:33:23 can't remember his name
1:33:25 may allah because of him who fought wars
1:33:27 against the muslims
1:33:28 and led the armies against them and you
1:33:30 know he was involved in
1:33:32 the the killing of muslims and then
1:33:35 you know by the grace of allah he had a
1:33:38 change of heart
1:33:39 he became a muslim and then fought for
1:33:41 the muslims
1:33:43 um and led their armies in battle so
1:33:45 it's um
1:33:46 you never know what it was
1:33:50 [Music]
1:33:53 yeah so keep that in mind as well um you
1:33:55 know just be patient with him
1:33:57 sometimes your persistence is something
1:33:58 that can rub off on them
1:34:00 and open them up a little bit more or
1:34:02 help in um
1:34:03 as hamza was mentioning at the beginning
1:34:05 of this stream to sort of de-cloud there
1:34:08 um because sometimes this is just a case
1:34:10 of trying to clean away the dust
1:34:12 before you can sort of you know get to
1:34:14 the the shiny thing underneath it all
1:34:16 but um yeah every patient is afraid
1:34:19 of you so those are beautiful yeah
1:34:22 patience is actually the
1:34:23 key for all efforts in islam most of
1:34:26 them patience is the key to discipline
1:34:28 as well
1:34:28 and which is the key to success sabot is
1:34:34 and there is so much benefit from this i
1:34:36 think one of the scholars said that the
1:34:37 basis for all of the
1:34:39 all of the morals and values in islam is
1:34:42 actually suffer
1:34:43 and i would even argue that's the basis
1:34:45 for success because success is not just
1:34:47 based on motivation it's based on
1:34:48 discipline and discipline requires
1:34:49 suburb
1:34:50 so use of your your patience narrative
1:34:53 throughout this
1:34:55 this this stream you're threading the
1:34:57 stream with the patient narrative we
1:34:59 mentioned it more than twice
1:35:01 it's actually one of the key wisdoms
1:35:03 from the wisdoms of mr ponders himself
1:35:05 may allah bless you
1:35:12 so i have been following you guys hamza
1:35:14 and your supporters
1:35:16 and saburam so i have just said to him
1:35:18 what you just said now
1:35:20 so i'm just saying that there is nothing
1:35:22 to do with intellectual
1:35:24 um about him so i just my objective to
1:35:27 come to this life is
1:35:28 just you say something for him then i
1:35:30 will
1:35:31 suggest him to see your talks on him
1:35:35 so i think there's something spiritual
1:35:37 for him there's nothing intellectual
1:35:40 yeah advice is forget me or anyone to
1:35:43 say anything to him
1:35:44 you've got a relationship with him build
1:35:46 a nice relationship with him
1:35:48 and muslims should come across to all
1:35:50 people muslims and non-muslims
1:35:52 as someone who is committed to the
1:35:54 goodness and guidance of that person the
1:35:56 prophet sallallahu alaihi hussain said
1:35:57 love for
1:35:59 what you love for yourself love for
1:36:00 people will love for humanity we love
1:36:01 yourself
1:36:02 this isn't by bukhari
1:36:05 it's authentic hadith and is similar to
1:36:08 other
1:36:08 hadith they even talk about brotherhood
1:36:10 and so on and so forth and this means
1:36:12 be committed to the goodness and
1:36:13 guidance so if you build that trust
1:36:15 build that relationship don't make it
1:36:17 just about debates and ego
1:36:19 try and create awakenings within him
1:36:20 inshallah uh
1:36:22 you know you'll be
1:36:34 so we've got um another guest here okay
1:36:42 your mic is muted you need to unmute
1:36:44 your mic
1:36:45 so that you may talk and ask your
1:36:46 question inshallah
1:36:50 hello
1:37:02 you sound not you sound like you've got
1:37:04 your t-shirt buried under a blanket
1:37:08 sorry my mic is not working pretty well
1:37:12 but am i audible you're quite inaudible
1:37:16 um maybe just ask your question and then
1:37:19 we'll answer it but
1:37:20 i don't think we're going to be able to
1:37:21 have like a conversation
1:37:23 type of audio
1:37:26 question actually if truth is
1:37:31 objective then
1:37:39 if truth is objective how are you going
1:37:41 to explain i think the best thing to do
1:37:43 okay is if you type your question
1:37:45 in the comments it'll be easier because
1:37:47 i won't
1:37:48 yeah we won't misrepresent you and we'll
1:37:50 answer your question that'll be the best
1:37:51 thing to do because
1:37:52 your mic is quite inaudible so until you
1:37:55 do that we'll get someone else
1:37:56 insha'allah
1:37:57 um so there's no one else in the back
1:37:59 chat other than um
1:38:01 okay uh so we can have a look i guess
1:38:05 how long are we planning on staying on
1:38:06 for are we trying to hit the two-hour
1:38:07 mark and then we'll go
1:38:08 yeah we'll have about 20 minutes in shot
1:38:10 a lot so we can get on at least a few
1:38:12 more
1:38:12 questions is anyone else that wants to
1:38:14 come on and i think it's been quite
1:38:16 productive so far alhamdulillah yeah
1:38:18 probably one of the best streams i've
1:38:19 been on before a while
1:38:21 obviously apart from the thought
1:38:22 adventure podcast oh yeah
1:38:24 don't forget i'm the best one we've got
1:38:26 evidence of you saying that
1:38:28 so we're sure so go back on your head
1:38:31 now
1:38:32 um yes i've posted the link in the uh
1:38:35 the live chat oh i've only posted it on
1:38:37 savings institute let me post on all of
1:38:38 them
1:38:39 um sorry the youtube channel uh so if
1:38:42 you want to join do click that link
1:38:44 um should i say we've got george
1:38:48 um
1:38:55 so george there's are you on your
1:38:56 computer
1:39:01 are you on your computer
1:39:04 you need to shut down the youtube so
1:39:06 that it's not
1:39:07 playing twice we can't hear you because
1:39:09 i've muted you because of the echo
1:39:11 sorry sorry it's okay okay did you close
1:39:13 youtube
1:39:15 you sound like you got a greek name of
1:39:17 course i've been trying to contact you
1:39:19 for a long time
1:39:21 really where you are yeah
1:39:24 you're good friends with the brother
1:39:25 named zeeshan
1:39:28 yes well smile to jannah yeah yeah yeah
1:39:31 yeah yeah
1:39:35 do you speak greek no yes
1:39:52 a little uh hong kong sorry guys village
1:40:02 again oh really so my mom is from amoho
1:40:05 so she was a refugee from the conflict
1:40:08 yeah so she's from america
1:40:09 but my one my gran
1:40:13 and my granddad they
1:40:16 were they're from baffle oh
1:40:20 [Music]
1:40:29 he was actually very happy like person
1:40:32 like
1:40:32 when it came to festivities he was
1:40:33 always giving us money and fruit and
1:40:35 cakes
1:40:36 and he he liked to enjoy life you know
1:40:38 so
1:40:39 very very great it's a very
1:40:42 very separate thing as well greek
1:40:44 supreme thing i think
1:40:46 more sometimes a little bit more i think
1:40:49 energetic maybe
1:40:50 in some cases but anyway so good to see
1:40:53 you man
1:40:54 you too bro yeah we've been uh in the
1:40:58 river obviously me and my son
1:40:59 alhamdulillah
1:41:00 i'm the one who's a good boy well
1:41:03 reversed
1:41:04 but i'm so glad we're talking about
1:41:06 things like veganism and stuff like that
1:41:08 i've um
1:41:09 spoken to many vegans as well had many
1:41:12 debates
1:41:13 and many talks about how they try to say
1:41:16 they're saving the planet and all this
1:41:18 other i'm sorry
1:41:19 rubbish you know when you look at the
1:41:22 stats
1:41:23 veganism is doing more damage and good
1:41:25 for animals in this you know in what's
1:41:27 going on today it's like
1:41:29 i just can't believe i mean i i train in
1:41:32 the gym and stuff like that and
1:41:33 if i tell you a quick story i used to
1:41:35 weigh 180 kilos
1:41:38 whoa was very in a bad way i was 95
1:41:42 body fat and it's because of my health
1:41:46 i'm a chef now i'm doing that and
1:41:50 it's uh it's only through me educating
1:41:52 myself and also being a muslim
1:41:54 because you know what greeks are like
1:41:56 you know i speak
1:41:57 well very stubborn we
1:42:06 is a whole different kettle of fish it's
1:42:08 um yeah maybe it's just the north or the
1:42:11 snow
1:42:11 well in a greek religion they say uh in
1:42:14 greek it says
1:42:16 that means believe and don't question
1:42:19 that's why i had it i had a huge problem
1:42:21 since i was a young boy
1:42:22 you know sorry i don't want to go off
1:42:23 topic too much no though no it's
1:42:26 a pleasure to have you subhanallah like
1:42:30 by no means of my prophet muslim you
1:42:32 know i've been
1:42:34 my life was totally different before i
1:42:36 was muslim
1:42:37 you know i mean i used to be a dragon
1:42:39 based dj
1:42:45 i had a collection of a 4 000 vinyl
1:42:50 i used to make a lot a lot of money as i
1:42:52 was very good at it as well so i just
1:42:53 think
1:42:54 you you
1:43:12 yes all our food is chemical free where
1:43:15 is it
1:43:16 bro tell us what it is it's a it's
1:43:18 called uncle jeez gourmet fried chicken
1:43:20 coke we're street food business
1:43:22 where is it uh it's uh all over the uk
1:43:25 where mobile is street food
1:43:27 oh brilliant yeah we're trying to be a
1:43:29 brand name in charlotte
1:43:30 obviously reminds me of the film have
1:43:32 you got a website yes
1:43:34 please look at or it's mainly on
1:43:35 facebook it's just possible
1:43:37 post the link in the private chat and
1:43:39 i'll put it on the screen
1:43:40 well it's not just halal it's gmo and
1:43:42 msg free
1:43:44 wow brilliant it's all from my hands and
1:43:47 my son alhamdulillah
1:43:49 he's now my business partner we've just
1:43:51 finished the weekend at
1:43:52 silverstone racing um excuse me we've
1:43:56 had like three hours sleeping three days
1:43:58 but i want to ask about so you're 180
1:44:01 kilos if you don't mind me asking
1:44:03 where are you now in your stage of
1:44:04 physical 126.
1:44:07 so you've lost nearly 60 kilos
1:44:10 but now i lift a lot of heavy weights
1:44:12 bro
1:44:15 since i was 10. that is
1:44:22 a lot of it was to me being a muslim
1:44:24 because
1:44:26 i was a very closed-minded cypriot as in
1:44:29 a lot you know our secrets were like
1:44:31 i wouldn't accept anything external of
1:44:34 out of what i know
1:44:36 and for me it it was a one brother
1:44:40 that i hated who's now i love
1:44:43 with all my heart we're very close
1:44:45 hisham i worked with him i didn't want
1:44:47 to work with a muslim
1:44:48 because uh one of the guys that we were
1:44:50 these english chapters to work with
1:44:52 he goes by the way you're going to work
1:44:53 with the muslim i said no
1:44:55 i'm not working with them no because
1:44:58 he's one of them
1:44:59 because what i'll give you praise and
1:45:01 all that i went i don't want to work for
1:45:03 him
1:45:03 and i i had to work with him
1:45:08 and it annoyed me because he was so nice
1:45:10 to me
1:45:11 uh there's me getting my bible out go
1:45:13 right let's do this that's war
1:45:16 you know i'm ready i'm greek i'm proud
1:45:18 that's it
1:45:20 it was crazy he didn't mention one word
1:45:23 to me about islam
1:45:25 nothing to do with the sunnah of the
1:45:26 prophet sallallahu alaihi
1:45:28 he was just frying the bible back and i
1:45:31 was like no
1:45:32 you can't mean this no you can't do that
1:45:34 and that time i was
1:45:36 heading in a really bad health and when
1:45:38 i was in
1:45:39 i was in really bad health at the time
1:45:41 and um
1:45:43 i was watching all the videos with him
1:45:46 which i finally
1:45:47 put my barriers down listen to i'm gonna
1:45:49 shake it out my shoulders like at night
1:45:52 so many other shakes and it was like wow
1:45:55 this can't be true this what i've known
1:45:58 all my life because i've
1:45:59 i've researched oh god seventh day
1:46:02 baptism jehovah's witness hindu
1:46:04 uh oh you you name it i've read i've
1:46:06 opened the book and had to look about
1:46:08 spoken to the people into the face and
1:46:09 then the greeks
1:46:11 were the buffalo national straight to
1:46:13 the priests we called them by byes
1:46:14 yes when you speak to them they used to
1:46:17 get angry
1:46:19 they just get so angry believe in that
1:46:20 question and i'm like
1:46:22 if that's the case why did god give us a
1:46:25 brain that's what i questioned
1:46:26 and also i'll be very honest my
1:46:28 intellect wasn't that great back then
1:46:30 because i knew what i knew from my
1:46:32 family as in
1:46:33 to be a man to be a husband and to be in
1:46:36 how to be an individual to thought their
1:46:38 way was was absolutely right
1:46:40 while we're living it was only when i
1:46:43 become muslim
1:46:45 and my brother hisham at the time when i
1:46:47 felt sick
1:46:48 he one thing stuck he must have my head
1:46:50 he said to me don't
1:46:52 die without being a believable one
1:46:55 and i was in hospital i died for let's
1:46:58 say i
1:46:59 blacked out for 30 seconds and i come to
1:47:02 love with the rest of allah
1:47:04 i was back and as soon as i got out of
1:47:07 the hospital i said to him
1:47:09 i didn't read quran i didn't read quran
1:47:10 i didn't read nothing
1:47:12 all i knew was things were sticking in
1:47:15 my head and i used to get angry
1:47:17 very very i was at war with myself when
1:47:20 i come out hospital all right
1:47:22 i'm really sorry guys you've got way off
1:47:24 topic on topic bro carry on no
1:47:26 no no no we're enjoying gaming i'm sorry
1:47:28 i said to him
1:47:29 i want to take she had that he went what
1:47:31 i was honestly
1:47:33 i have to i don't know my stupidest
1:47:35 thing in the world
1:47:36 just before that a lot forgive me please
1:47:40 i had a bacon sandwich
1:47:43 it was so pathetic isn't it and you know
1:47:46 us greeks with pork and
1:47:47 kebabs you know
1:47:52 and you know it's crazy because
1:47:54 alhamdulillah
1:47:57 but it wasn't emotional i cried and
1:48:00 my wife my wife at the time was not
1:48:03 muslim
1:48:04 and uh she took it back she took it back
1:48:07 but unfortunately we're getting divorced
1:48:10 uh because and
1:48:13 she didn't know my son told you and i
1:48:16 told her and she went man
1:48:18 she wasn't laughing like so far she's
1:48:20 not even their own life but
1:48:22 i love giving us buttercup because we've
1:48:24 now moved out of london
1:48:26 uh we live in a beautiful place my
1:48:29 business
1:48:31 and it's just when you realize that
1:48:34 when you can educate yourself as an
1:48:36 individual to broaden your mind and
1:48:37 speak all she's speaking to people like
1:48:38 you
1:48:39 hamza masha'allah i've been listening to
1:48:42 you
1:48:43 and i said
1:49:04 i love to cook for people it's my
1:49:06 passion
1:49:08 i'm actually doing a new concept of food
1:49:10 you know we know you don't is don't you
1:49:17 yes the new concept of that which is
1:49:19 quite cool so um i i love to cook
1:49:21 very much i'm very passionate about good
1:49:23 food and
1:49:24 um yeah i've mixed through so many
1:49:27 stories now i'm so sorry
1:49:29 but um yeah it's it's when as we develop
1:49:32 it i mean i'm 50 i was 52 on saturday
1:49:36 and i the best thing i've ever
1:49:40 had was being he's 21
1:49:44 and respectful young man trying to find
1:49:46 my wife in shock well now myself as well
1:49:50 both of you pious i mean
1:49:56 he's such a lovely young lad he's he's
1:49:58 very respectable you see
1:49:59 you guys call your uncle he's now
1:50:01 cleaning helping me clean up and i've
1:50:02 damaged my foot a little bit but
1:50:04 oh bless you know he's such an amazing
1:50:07 young man and
1:50:08 you
1:50:22 i mean when people talk to me about
1:50:25 meats
1:50:26 and foods what's killing us it's
1:50:29 annoying but even in the gym i get it i
1:50:31 mean i train really heavy
1:50:33 uh when i'm training hard peak our
1:50:35 vertical bench press about 250 i like
1:50:38 president
1:50:40 yeah wait wait wait you're 250 kilos
1:50:44 yeah yeah 100 yeah yeah
1:50:48 not flat vertical well you're a beast
1:50:50 man
1:50:52 and i used to ask what problems when i
1:50:54 was dying
1:50:56 and when i used to kick my power when i
1:50:58 was my kicking power was crazy
1:51:00 george let me tell you something here
1:51:02 this hopefully in the next couple of
1:51:04 months
1:51:04 because i've been going to the gym
1:51:06 lately as well like heavy and scary
1:51:08 and i've been i've off i've gone off my
1:51:10 vegan diet i used to have i mean lots of
1:51:13 good food
1:51:29 i want to meet up with you we go gym
1:51:32 together and we have a good
1:51:33 good oh that would be i love the lego
1:51:36 yeah
1:51:36 yeah giving me an idea i'll cook for you
1:51:39 bro no problem
1:51:40 do you know what i've learned over the
1:51:42 years people listen we need vegetables
1:51:44 100
1:51:45 it's an essential part of our butt but
1:51:47 we also need meats
1:51:49 meats are key fat 14 table i was always
1:51:53 i was an
1:51:54 absolute disaster in health i've got a
1:51:56 few things i can't get rid of
1:51:58 but through things like this the goalies
1:52:02 these are quite cool these are good for
1:52:05 muscle repair
1:52:06 and really really good okay and this is
1:52:07 a apple cider vinegar
1:52:09 uh beetroot and pomegranate really good
1:52:11 stuff so i'm promoting other brands i'm
1:52:12 sorry
1:52:13 but um i'll take shots of turmeric
1:52:16 organic turmeric
1:52:18 that's very good for anti-inflammation
1:52:19 yeah it is garlic i'll take every
1:52:21 morning um
1:52:23 every morning i'm just knocking shots
1:52:24 and all this stuff and i mention
1:52:26 more if i don't eat too many things like
1:52:29 bread
1:52:30 but i stay away from a lot of bread i
1:52:32 try to you know
1:52:34 when you see a nice bit of bread you
1:52:35 can't resist it but yeah especially the
1:52:37 greeks man greetings
1:52:38 oh you know our friends a lot went out
1:52:40 the oven oh
1:52:42 especially the especially the village
1:52:43 bread bro oh
1:52:45 there's nothing better what's this
1:52:48 honestly
1:52:48 it's like really it's like you could
1:52:51 just
1:52:52 it's like it melts bro it just melts in
1:52:54 your mouth you actually have a nice bit
1:52:55 of butter on it oh
1:52:56 you can't
1:53:08 but let me talk about halloumi bro you
1:53:10 know it's a super
1:53:11 like from the coal it's a separate
1:53:13 cheese yeah
1:53:14 and the halloumi is the probably the
1:53:16 best cheese on the planet
1:53:18 because chili jam when you roast it
1:53:22 and it's nice and soft it's like an
1:53:23 alternative to me because
1:53:25 by the way i want to take on a shocking
1:53:26 bro i was brought up my dad
1:53:28 my dad's from greece he's from ibiro my
1:53:32 mom's from cyprus but listen to this
1:53:34 i was brought up pescetarian
1:53:38 no yeah would you believe it
1:53:41 yeah brother i get flak now greeks tell
1:53:46 me when i got any pork
1:53:47 oh my god it's like when you walk into a
1:53:50 room and someone said you know that's a
1:53:51 busy room
1:53:52 and somebody says what do you mean you
1:53:53 don't need pork everything stops a glass
1:53:55 breaks on the floor
1:53:57 it's that kind of moment you know what i
1:53:58 mean it's like it's like you remember my
1:54:00 greek fat wedding when the guy says i
1:54:02 don't eat meat
1:54:03 what do you mean don't worry i cook you
1:54:09 i love it i love it it's true it's chewy
1:54:12 it's not heard of
1:54:13 uh i ma i used to make lunza lunza used
1:54:16 to be a smoked pork loin
1:54:18 i could especially made as beef hello
1:54:23 four times the price and i used to do
1:54:25 separate sandwiches in one of my shops
1:54:28 and the greeks have accused me liz it is
1:54:30 it's three times the price more
1:54:31 expensive
1:54:32 fake lunza you're selling fake stuff
1:54:37 i'm saving your life you're not eating
1:54:40 disgusting smelly pig
1:54:42 [Music]
1:54:43 what we'll do yeah and i'll uh i'll give
1:54:46 you my email so we could touch base
1:54:47 together and inshallah in the next
1:54:49 couple of months
1:54:50 we'll try and meet up yeah you were
1:54:52 going to ask a question about veganism
1:54:55 yeah i mean so many people are jumping
1:54:57 on this obvious i know guys that train
1:54:59 really hard and heavy and
1:55:00 good friend of mine and dick he's he's
1:55:03 shredded he's absolutely shredded
1:55:05 and the guy said yeah yeah i'm turning
1:55:06 vegan must have didn't be stupid
1:55:08 can you guys tell me what you guys mean
1:55:09 i got dummy stupid you but it's not
1:55:11 sustainable
1:55:12 this is a fact this is science guys this
1:55:14 is science i'm sorry
1:55:16 if anyone's asking me bring it on it's
1:55:18 science you need me end the story
1:55:19 it's from allah subhanahu wa to allah he
1:55:21 has done it too much we do we are in a
1:55:23 nation
1:55:24 that it's too much meat tyler
1:55:25 genetically agree with that you need
1:55:27 your greens
1:55:28 i know someone who's stuck on greens he
1:55:29 got he got gout
1:55:31 he was one of the owners of a gym greek
1:55:33 guy named sav and he was all like yeah
1:55:35 yeah i'm 55. i don't eat no meat i said
1:55:37 you're crazy
1:55:38 because meat's bad for you guys no you
1:55:40 eat pig stop eating pig
1:55:43 don't get it mixed up he thinks meat is
1:55:45 all across the board
1:55:46 i guess read about what pig does to you
1:55:49 it digests its food in four hours i said
1:55:52 you know it's full of cancer as possible
1:55:54 it's revolting
1:55:55 how why would you want to eat that crap
1:55:57 oh it's all the same it's not
1:55:59 go to slaughterhouse look learn
1:56:01 understand how
1:56:02 the grass for animals is so clean and
1:56:05 the pigs
1:56:06 so george we we gave a kind of answer to
1:56:08 veganism a while ago and we'll have it
1:56:10 on the timestamps i want to ask you a
1:56:12 question i want you to end on this
1:56:13 actually in a nice way
1:56:15 give give some advice to the greek
1:56:18 secret community about islam
1:56:20 talk to them okay
1:56:24 to give the greeks don't open your minds
1:56:27 guys
1:56:28 open your minds please forgot
1:56:30 subhanallah
1:56:31 you don't know one what you're missing
1:56:34 the gift of allah
1:56:35 is is something undescribable
1:56:39 is something that you can be the biggest
1:56:42 strongest guy in the world but when
1:56:43 you're standing next to
1:56:45 you know from allah you're you're you're
1:56:47 that you're that tiny little miracle
1:56:50 and you give allah praise and be
1:56:52 thankful and
1:56:54 understand that people when you say the
1:56:56 word muslim
1:56:58 especially greeks he's a muslim oh i've
1:57:00 had people that talk to me
1:57:01 again about people swear at me i know
1:57:04 people don't want to come around my
1:57:05 house
1:57:06 oh you got all that dodgy halloween
1:57:13 in the name of god an animal dies a
1:57:15 painless death
1:57:17 you know i've spoken to a few greeks you
1:57:20 know
1:57:20 listen you've you've you've given up
1:57:24 your favor and all that ceiling that
1:57:25 doesn't listen bro
1:57:26 please you know i went to cypress last
1:57:29 october
1:57:30 a few of my friends found out i was
1:57:31 muslim i feel
1:57:33 like can i shake your hand because no
1:57:36 man give me a hug
1:57:37 don't shake my head i don't want to
1:57:39 shake my hand give me a hug
1:57:42 why because i
1:57:45 i read a lot i read about it i
1:57:47 understood i understood why people
1:57:49 pray five times a day and why we fast
1:57:53 unfortunately i didn't fasted there
1:57:54 because i'm not feeling that well but a
1:57:56 lot for giving me for that inshallah
1:57:58 but we have a purpose in that i have a
1:58:01 purpose in life
1:58:02 my business has a purpose as a muslim
1:58:05 because
1:58:06 everything i do is from here and it's
1:58:08 all hello and i see a lot of brothers
1:58:10 out there
1:58:10 i'll put in these dodgy i'm sorry to say
1:58:12 this dirty chicken shops
1:58:14 all this chemical based stuff they're
1:58:15 pumping in the food not questioning
1:58:17 anything selling frozen products
1:58:20 not caring what they're giving to our
1:58:23 fellow brothers and sisters muslims and
1:58:24 non-muslims
1:58:25 yes yes you know we have a
1:58:28 responsibility it's not just about the
1:58:30 money
1:58:31 yes it's about allah
1:58:35 the permissible and the pure so what
1:58:38 you're doing
1:58:38 you're fulfilling the verse of the quran
1:58:40 bro so not only is it
1:58:43 but it's pure there's no chemicals it's
1:58:44 not gmo and all of
1:58:47 may love bless you man man bless you
1:58:50 you know i would i i know we've moved
1:58:52 away from the stream a little bit yeah
1:58:54 forgive me i'm sorry no no
1:58:57 you you give a lot of life and joy to
1:58:59 the street man
1:59:14 um
1:59:24 [Laughter]
1:59:28 two admins on the stream this is the
1:59:30 problems they're called yeah he gave me
1:59:31 an idea
1:59:32 do you like a little light i'm thinking
1:59:33 of how i can link everything to the
1:59:34 lighthouse now
1:59:35 but um a lighthouse seminar sort of
1:59:37 thing where you have a gathering
1:59:39 and then get brother george cooking up
1:59:41 some scrun
1:59:42 somewhere as well you know what
1:59:46 you know what's very interesting about
1:59:47 people like george
1:59:50 it's the authenticity yeah this is
1:59:53 something that we
1:59:54 should revive in the tower because
1:59:57 authenticity
1:59:58 coming from a space in a place that is
2:00:01 full of love
2:00:02 and wants to you know is has is
2:00:05 dedicated to people's well-being
2:00:06 and people's goodness and guidance you
2:00:09 can't beat that
2:00:10 no matter any type of articulation
2:00:13 intellectualization i'm telling you
2:00:14 people remember how you made them
2:00:16 felt and not necessarily what you said
2:00:19 and
2:00:19 if all of the duat were like george for
2:00:22 example
2:00:23 what kind of character
2:00:31 loves cooking wants to provide for
2:00:32 people dedicated to the well-being
2:00:34 this is exactly what we're talking about
2:00:36 advanced our training course uh in the
2:00:38 characteristics of the
2:00:39 zora and this is also your behavior your
2:00:41 character give it could be a means to
2:00:43 uncloud the fitzvah
2:00:44 to awaken the truth within because we
2:00:46 talk about this as an approach
2:00:47 of unclouded because even if you look at
2:00:49 statistics
2:00:50 a lot of people who change their
2:00:52 religion is not necessary for
2:00:53 ideological intellectual reasons it's
2:00:55 because of also
2:00:56 the kind of social norms or the kind of
2:00:58 behavior of the people and the character
2:01:00 and so on and so forth
2:01:02 so it's very important you know be like
2:01:04 george
2:01:05 hashtag god bless him and his son and
2:01:08 his family and make it easy for him i
2:01:09 mean i mean i mean i mean
2:01:11 let's take uh one more than we call it a
2:01:13 day bro
2:01:14 yeah no he's uh so brother omar has been
2:01:16 waiting a little bit in the back
2:01:18 but we have got the question from okay
2:01:19 as well um okay if you're still
2:01:21 watching um because it's a bit of a big
2:01:24 question
2:01:25 it's probably best um that you send us
2:01:27 an email
2:01:28 um and then i can email you back and if
2:01:31 i can't find the answer myself i'll get
2:01:32 someone else to email you
2:01:34 but i've taken a note of the question um
2:01:36 so please do make sure that you email us
2:01:39 on uh which one am i giving him info or
2:01:42 my house maybe give him the lighthouse
2:01:44 one yeah but it's at lighthouse
2:01:46 at sapience institute.org um if you
2:01:49 email us on that i can try and get that
2:01:51 answer for you but um
2:01:52 omar says he's going to keep it brief
2:01:54 and we've been we've hit the two-hour
2:01:55 mark now
2:02:06 [Laughter]
2:02:10 um so it's a pleasure to meet you guys
2:02:12 um
2:02:14 my question is about shikh so sheikh
2:02:16 means associating partners with allah
2:02:18 and allah is regarding that as the
2:02:20 biggest sin
2:02:22 in humanity right that humans can do
2:02:25 but i see that the main thing that we're
2:02:27 seeing is not really [ __ ] but it's more
2:02:29 like atheism which is not believing in
2:02:30 allah in the first place
2:02:32 but the mention of that in the quran is
2:02:36 if it exists is not nearly as frequent
2:02:40 as shirk
2:02:41 so the majority of the world not a
2:02:43 majority a lot of the people in the
2:02:44 world do not believe that allah exists
2:02:46 in the first place
2:02:47 they are not worshiping him and other
2:02:50 partners with him so that's
2:02:51 my question thank you omar how old are
2:02:54 you bro
2:02:55 i'm 20 september i'll be 21
2:03:00 very bright bright young man and god
2:03:02 bless you and
2:03:03 increase you and make you a positive
2:03:06 light for
2:03:06 all the people in the world and your
2:03:09 question obviously shows that you have
2:03:11 intelligence and insight um no problem
2:03:14 and may allah bless your parents for
2:03:16 facilitating that
2:03:17 i mean i mean they live in saudi arabia
2:03:21 so
2:03:21 and and yeah i told them about you guys
2:03:24 and about you
2:03:25 and all these people like they've been a
2:03:26 great influence in my
2:03:28 martial arts islam and i helped
2:03:30 influence another jehovah's witness
2:03:31 she became a muslim and now
2:03:35 well ever beautiful so this is the way
2:03:37 i'll answer the question bro
2:03:39 atheism is let me explain why
2:03:43 so when you talk about shiriko
2:03:45 associating partners with god
2:03:47 you could call it associationism right
2:03:49 so
2:03:50 let's really break down what do we mean
2:03:52 by allah so first and foremost we affirm
2:03:55 the fact that allah is one with regards
2:03:57 to his creative power
2:03:59 he is the only unique soul transcendent
2:04:01 master creator owner master of
2:04:03 everything that exists
2:04:04 and anyone who basically gives these
2:04:07 descriptions to other than allah this is
2:04:09 a form of associationism
2:04:10 then you have allah's the oneness of
2:04:12 allah's names and attributes we believe
2:04:13 allah's names and attributes are
2:04:15 transcendent we affirm them they're to
2:04:16 the highest degree possible and they
2:04:17 have no deficiency no flaw
2:04:20 and we base if we compare allah's names
2:04:21 and attributes to a created thing then
2:04:23 what we've done is a form of
2:04:25 humanization if we compare a human
2:04:27 attribute to to allah
2:04:29 make it the same what we've done is
2:04:31 deification and those things are
2:04:33 associationism is shook also we affirm
2:04:35 the oneness of allah's divinity
2:04:37 meaning that allah is the only being
2:04:39 worthy of worship most direct and
2:04:40 singular all acts of worship to him
2:04:42 alone
2:04:42 if we worship other than allah this is
2:04:44 also associationism
2:04:46 so how does atheism fit in athens fits
2:04:48 in in the first thing that we spoke
2:04:50 about the oneness of allah's creative
2:04:51 power
2:04:52 if you reject allah's creative power and
2:04:55 even if you reject his names and
2:04:56 attributes scholars say that this is
2:04:58 shock
2:04:59 as well by virtue of its rejection why
2:05:02 because you have to you have to give
2:05:05 those attributes
2:05:06 implicitly or explicitly to something
2:05:07 else so when you say there is no creator
2:05:10 then you have to get the attribute of
2:05:12 creating everything to something else
2:05:14 right even if they say it came from
2:05:16 nothing you're giving nothing that
2:05:18 ability
2:05:18 right so from that perspective
2:05:22 is associationism as well because
2:05:24 remember if you don't single out
2:05:26 and direct all acts of worship to allah
2:05:28 alone you're actually gonna
2:05:29 you're gonna be doing it to something
2:05:30 else so what's an act of worship
2:05:32 an act of worship includes the internal
2:05:34 acts of worship like the acts of the
2:05:35 heart
2:05:36 and the external acts of worship of the
2:05:38 acts of the limbs so that
2:05:39 internal acts of worship include
2:05:41 ultimate love and ultimate gratitude and
2:05:43 extensive praise
2:05:44 if you don't believe in allah if you
2:05:46 reject allah as an atheist you're going
2:05:48 to give something your ultimate love
2:05:49 other than allah
2:05:50 you're going to give something your
2:05:51 ultimate gratitude to other than allah
2:05:53 and you're going to give something your
2:05:55 ultimate extensive praise
2:05:57 to other than allah so by virtue of that
2:06:01 atheism is shook does that make sense
2:06:05 i see what if someone is giving all of
2:06:07 these uh things to just one thing
2:06:10 that is not allah that's true right
2:06:12 because it's other than allah your
2:06:14 associationism so if they
2:06:16 direct ultimate gratitude for example to
2:06:18 the universe
2:06:19 or the direct ultimate love to a living
2:06:21 being or extensive praise to
2:06:23 an idea or ideology other than allah
2:06:26 that is also a form of shirk
2:06:28 right because whatever the top of that
2:06:30 value hierarchy
2:06:31 if like allah should be at the top of it
2:06:34 and if you stop believing in it it's a
2:06:36 pyramid there's always
2:06:37 if you put that at the bottom there's
2:06:39 something new at the top of the pyramid
2:06:40 it's not
2:06:41 the pyramid just doesn't dissolve
2:06:42 there's always something that's a
2:06:44 beautiful way of doing it bro exactly
2:06:46 okay thank you so much i appreciate it i
2:06:47 don't want to take much of your time
2:06:48 thank you
2:06:51 thank you so much brothers and sisters
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2:07:08 institute uh yusuf pontus has an amazing
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2:09:51 answering your questions specifically
2:09:53 giving you concise answers and nuanced
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2:09:55 we'll be doing that in the monthly
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2:10:03 about lighthouse mentoring and why it
2:10:04 needs
2:10:04 support as well with china yeah
2:10:06 definitely so if you go to our
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2:10:13 you should be brought to this page here
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2:10:18 alternatively
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2:10:24 session it's aimed
2:10:26 at it's a service for ex-muslims
2:10:28 students non-muslims
2:10:29 uh leaders dua to people who are looking
2:10:31 to get involved in islamic activism and
2:10:33 they want coaching or
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2:10:36 you're suffering from doubts or if
2:10:38 you're interested in islam
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2:10:58 we're booked up until
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2:11:03 and we get more
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2:11:06 dates opening up
2:11:07 um in shot a lot as well we're just sort
2:11:09 of working on that at the moment
2:11:11 um and also keep an eye a little insider
2:11:14 tip
2:11:14 if you keep eyeing it weekly um
2:11:16 sometimes we have to decline
2:11:18 applications
2:11:19 i'm going to give you a tip as well on
2:11:21 when you fill in the application
2:11:23 don't fill it in like this so one person
2:11:25 and we say there's a form so say you
2:11:27 pick your date
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2:11:34 now actually do that so that means
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2:11:47 um don't do as someone previously did
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2:13:09 that need for example
2:13:10 uh like thick issues you need to
2:13:13 approach a chef for that kind of thing
2:13:15 here we're trying to help you with um
2:13:17 you know a feel for
2:13:18 philosophical issues um you know
2:13:20 questions regarding doubts your heart
2:13:22 that kind of thing um but this service
2:13:24 is set up specifically for that
2:13:26 uh we've got about seven or eight i
2:13:28 think i can't remember exactly how many
2:13:29 mentors
2:13:30 um spread out throughout the week uh who
2:13:32 uh you know
2:13:33 do art they've been involved in dollar
2:13:36 for a while um
2:13:37 and they're quite familiar in general
2:13:39 with the sort of questions that we get
2:13:40 and if for whatever reason they ain't
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2:13:46 and we have the resources to be able to
2:13:48 try to reach out
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2:13:50 dawah who might be able to help and
2:13:51 things like that
2:13:52 um so yeah so make sure to you know
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2:14:16 um and specifically as well to the
2:14:19 lighthouse project
2:14:20 um which is quite transformative we've
2:14:22 received a lot of good feedback
2:14:24 and from people who have been attending
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2:14:27 one-to-one
2:14:28 it's private um you know it's these kind
2:14:30 of things are not gonna be published
2:14:32 on the internet or anything like that um
2:14:34 it's just kept between the mentor and
2:14:36 the person that's
2:14:37 um obviously going through the the
2:14:39 mentoring
2:14:40 um and yeah so inshallah you find a lot
2:14:43 of benefit in that if you need it
2:14:45 uh or if you know someone who you think
2:14:46 needs it make sure to pass them the link
2:14:49 um to the the service as well and
2:14:51 inshallah that will benefit them and
2:14:52 you'll gain reward for that
2:14:54 also
2:14:57 brilliant the yusuf has really
2:14:59 transformed the lighthouse service
2:15:00 mentoring will i bless him
2:15:01 it was because of ramadan and your
2:15:04 support that we're able to get more
2:15:05 people on board
2:15:06 we're able to expand and and so on and
2:15:09 so forth because
2:15:10 you have to understand that when a
2:15:11 mentor gives their time they don't only
2:15:13 give one hour
2:15:14 uh a week they may give many hours a
2:15:16 week nine hours or even maybe more
2:15:18 and they have preparation time and there
2:15:20 is post mentoring
2:15:22 uh advice and and so on and so forth
2:15:24 that can happen which takes a hell of a
2:15:26 lot of time
2:15:27 so we need dedicated people to help us
2:15:29 expand now we're fully booked into
2:15:31 september but we've got bookings until
2:15:33 next year i believe
2:15:35 uh it's very important for you to
2:15:37 understand that this is a
2:15:39 uh a unique service from the point of
2:15:41 view that we're not only mentoring
2:15:42 people to get involved in the dow and
2:15:44 help them in the dialogue
2:15:45 but we're also mentoring people
2:15:46 considering their doubts their super
2:15:47 hearts concerns
2:15:49 so for example today i had an ad hoc
2:15:52 mentoring
2:15:52 we're not going to mention a lot of
2:15:54 deals but you know
2:15:56 if someone's son has some issues and
2:15:58 we're basically
2:16:00 taking them through that kind of
2:16:00 mentoring process on how to deal with it
2:16:02 with a very
2:16:03 very very serious issue and uh
2:16:06 you know this is the stuff that we do
2:16:07 and you have to understand i spoke to
2:16:10 um a leading day in america that we need
2:16:13 this because
2:16:14 we have answers we have the intellectual
2:16:16 answers we have the institutes we
2:16:18 have um all of these you know real
2:16:20 philosophical answers we're standing on
2:16:22 the shoulders of giants
2:16:23 we have great work out there but what is
2:16:25 missing is
2:16:26 like a sunnah which is relating to
2:16:28 people on one to one people can find
2:16:30 answers online
2:16:31 but there's like a hidden spiritual law
2:16:33 if you like of dealing with people one
2:16:34 to one like they could read something on
2:16:36 the internet and have an abstract answer
2:16:38 but when they're dealing with someone
2:16:40 and someone understands the nuances the
2:16:42 psychology
2:16:43 the kind of emotions behind it taking
2:16:45 them on that journey to get that answer
2:16:46 internalized
2:16:48 then that one-to-one process is
2:16:49 absolutely beyond valuable
2:16:52 and this is why yes it's hard we've made
2:16:54 the decision to do this because you know
2:16:56 if you want to think from a marketing
2:16:57 and business strategy but that we're a
2:16:59 business of course but if you have that
2:17:00 mindset
2:17:01 you won't do something like this because
2:17:03 it takes a lot of resources and time and
2:17:05 effort
2:17:05 but we believe you have to follow the
2:17:07 barakah forum the barakah
2:17:09 is asking the question what does allah
2:17:10 want from us and i truly believe
2:17:12 in the dollar a game changer this post
2:17:15 kind of online world the game changes
2:17:16 not just writing stuff yes we need to
2:17:18 provide intellectual content
2:17:19 but it's having that one-to-one
2:17:21 engagement and this i think is
2:17:23 a kind of sunnah of allah had to do with
2:17:26 human beings
2:17:27 and this is why allah not only said in
2:17:29 the quran but we have a messenger
2:17:32 if it was just about a message then the
2:17:34 quran would be sufficient
2:17:36 but the prophet sallallahu alaihi israel
2:17:38 was given to us to explain the quran to
2:17:41 embodiment to relate to us and to make
2:17:44 these things relatable and
2:17:45 understandable for us to internalize it
2:17:47 and hopefully lighthouse mentoring is
2:17:48 going to achieve that and with the
2:17:50 leadership of our beloved brother yusuf
2:17:52 we're already on our way insha'allah
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2:18:19 uh we'll see you very soon there'll be a
2:18:20 live stream hopefully next week with one
2:18:22 of our academic seminars
2:18:24 and as for me salaam alaikum i'll let
2:18:25 you end each other
2:18:27 yeah i'll just say salaam alaikum as
2:18:28 well for everyone who's attended
2:18:30 barack obama and mubarak in advance for
2:18:34 those who are going to celebrate it
2:18:36 peace